Update on J.B. Cox
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jan 24, 2007 
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Mark Newman, who runs the minor leagues for the Yankees, just e-mailed me with an update on the status of J.B. Cox.
Cox is not on the spring training roster because he has a broken bone in his right hand.
“(He’ll be) ready to throw a bit late,” Newman reports.
Cox was in Class AA last season (6-2, 1.75, 3 saves) and wasn’t going to make the team out of Tampa anyway. But if recovers and pitches well, he could get a shot during the season.
Phew, I hope this will not effect his performance. How did he suffer it?
Anyone know where he falls on the “top prospect” lists? I know when the Yankees signed him he was highly regarded.
BC: No info on how the injury happened.
Chris: He is one of the organization’s top 10 prospects.
No worries. Pitching, especially relief pitching, is where the Yankees have a lot of depth right now. I’m pretty sure Bruney, Britton, Beam, Veras, and Whelan are ahead of him on the Yankees’ depth charts. And hey, if this guy is as good as they say he’s gonna be, then view it as a chance for one of the other young arms to impress in the Majors!
Cox is highly regarded but isnt projected as our future closer. Ive heard alot of people comparing him to a scot sheilds type. A fantastic eighth inning setup man or a decent closer most likely. But probably not good enough to close for the yanks.
Any news on how long it will take before he can pitch again?
Pete -
Thanks for the info about Cox. The pen is super crowded: Mo, Farnsworth, Proctor, Vizcaino, Bruney, Myers, Britton, Veras, Beam, Rasner and Karstens all pitched in the majors last year, and Sean Henn is in the mix, too.
Given the rivalry between Texas and Texas A&M, it would be interesting if Kevin Whelan (A&M – acquired in the Sheffield deal) and Cox (Texas) end up as teammates in the pen.
AA = Trenton and that’s where Cox was for the whole year. The reason why he wouldn’t have made the team out of ST is because of all the rightys in the pen.
cox is ranked 8th on the yankees farm by ba.
too many good young arms? Excellent problem to have and one the Yankees haven’t had in years. Good work Cash!
Hopefully it’s just a temporary setback. With the farm system stocked the best it’s been in years, he only needs to heal and get back on track again without rushing his progress….
The best scenario we can hope for as fans is that we can stay competitive with the team we have now and proper time is given to all these young arms to not only make it to the majors, but make it with the Yankees. If even half of these guys come to be what they’re supposed to be, our pitching will be solid for years, including both the bullpen and starters.
I love that some of our best young position players (Cano, Melky…) are up right now learning from veteran all-stars like Jeter, A-rod, Damon, etc, and will be a solid core to build from as those guys retire and these young arms come into their own.
Future looks bright Yankee fans, and these “transition years” will still produce winning teams every year.
I told you guys two weeks ago that he was injured and no one believed me…. geesh
Sad to hear though, at least its only a bone and not a ligament or muscle
I knew he had to be injured as did most people I think. There is absolutely no reason to bring some of those guys to spring training esp guys like whelan without inviting Cox. I think it was just surprising that no one seemed to know that he was injured. They kept this whole thing a secret I guess. I have no idea why.
If half or our pitching prospects pan out, we will have five homegrown all star pitchers two yrs from now – besides wang, Hughes, Sanchez, Betances and Chamberlain are all considered to be lights out if they reach their ceiling. And guys like Clippard, Marquez, ohlendorf, etc are all supposed to be number two or three pitchers (at the worst four) if they reach their ceiling. No way are half of the prospects going to reach the majors – its not feasible. We will be lucky if two of those guys not including Wang and Hughes succeed in the majors. Alot of our prime talent is only in A ball and will have many chances to fail. You have to remember that many prospects fail to live up to expectations. Although, I agree that even if we have four starters from the farm that would be amazing.
Thanks for the info, Peter. That’s why your blog is so great. You provide fans with a unique source of information.
I think the chances are a little better than that, but that might just be optimism. I thought more of them were more like AA, some coming up to AAA this year, but I could be wrong. Either way, like you said, plenty of chances to fail, not to mention plenty of chances to be traded, but overall I like what we’re working with at the moment.
Can you imagine 5 young stud homegrown pitchers filling out the rotation? I highly doubt that will happen, but one can dream. Does any team have that? 5 homegrown starters? Now if the Yanks can do that and keep ‘em for years to come, that would be a beauty. I guess that’s what every team wants.
TopProspectAlert also has Cox ranked as the 8th best prospect in the Yankees system.
Triple A will have sanchez and Hughes which are probably the most sure fire prospects to make the yanks this yr and preform well (excluding Karstens and Rasner who are both pretty much major leaguers and not prospects at this point.)
White is the fifth starter in scranton. Then, there is Ohlendorf and Clippard who are slightly behind those two and will probably be in trenton once again this yr even tho they should be in Scranton. Marquez will also be in trenton and probably Chamberlain as well due to his dominance in Hawaii this summer. Although both of these guys have atleast two yrs before they could possibly be considered to join the team. Chamberlain has almost no minor league experience other than hawaii. Betances is really the other possible future ace but he is VERY far away starting at Tampa. Kennedy will be at tampa too and can eventually possibly be a middle of the rotation guy. Mccallister, Garcia and Melancon are three yrs removed from triple A atleast. So besides the big four of Hughes, Sanchez, Clippard and Ohlendorf, everyone is atleast two yrs away from maybe making the majors and some are three and four yrs away. If chamberlain and Betances preforom to their ceiling, with Wang, Hughes and one of Ohlendorf, Clippard or Sanchez our starting rotation would be stacked with prospects. But this is pure speculation and only Hughes is certain to be destined to succeed in the majors right now.
I believe that JB was a teammate of Huston Street in college, I also read somewhere that JB broke all of Street’s save records in school (college)
It’s really exciting to see the depth of pitching talent – but there’s plenty of others that are ahead of many of Dave’s “roster projections” above.
First, barring sigificant injury or trades, all 5 projected starters in NY – yes, that includes Pavano – are signed through ’08, assuming Andy P. picks up his $16 million player option (wouldn’t you!). Only Rasner, Karstens, and Henn (now in relief role) have started a game in Majors.
AAA looks especially crowded. Rasner and Karstens have to pitch somewhere as the injury insurance guys. Sanchez and S. White both spent 1/2 year at AAA in ’06, and DeSalvo – remember ’05′s darling – dropped from AAA to AA. Clippard, Ohlendorf, Jackson all spent whole season in AA successfully. Hughes actually started ’06 in Tampa A – just ’cause of the logjam and the fact he’s only 20 I wouldn’t be shocked to see him start the season back in Trenton. And Chase Wright, just added to 40 man, looks due for promotion to AA. While he wasn’t solely a starter this year, he’s the only lefty of the bunch so he makes the 10th guy. 3 other guys nobody’s mentioning much (lefty Coke, righties B. Smith and Horne) had full season’s at Tampa, and J. Jones split between AA & A. Marquez will probably be back in A as well, and Chamberlain might get to start there or Charleston. Kroenke & Abreu from Charleston in ’06 look ready for next level. Betances, Kennedy, Garcia, Kontos & Norton (the last 2 drafted in 5th, 7th rounds ’06 were lights out at Staten Island) should form a great rotation at Charleston. Lots of bodies, not so many jobs, and if things go well for Igawa and Pavano, the only work in NY through ’08 is as injury fill-ins. So there’s no need to rush anybody.
Expect some more moves soon – clearly there’s a need for a catcher prospect who’s closer than the best in the system (closest options Santos AA in ’06, Piliterre A look like backups at best) with Posada holding an option through ’08. And 1B is an obvious opening – current closest best prospects Duncan & Ehlers should be at Trenton this year. Rest of the IF looks booked through 2010, OF through ’08 (Abreu if option picked up) and ’09 (Godzilla & Damon), with Melky sitting around waiting for somebody to get a sore shoulder, pulled hammy, bad foot, or break something – all of which we saw in ’06. And Giambi’s booked through ’08, but I’d be surprised if his $22 billion option for ’09 was picked up (ok, slight exagerration there).
Future looks bright, but the major cast is still pretty set, so hold your horses and remember why they call them “prospects”.
Wow, good comment, nyyfan. Really puts things in perspective. It’s definitely easy to forget that not everyone reaches the Majors as early as people like Felix Hernandez or Joe Mauer. Also good to see that we not only have a lot of talent at AAA, but at the low-A levels as well. The farm is not nearly as barren as people like to think!!
And Dave deserves credit too
Thanks swo. I dunno nnyfan, if Hughes starts in trenton, I will be pissed. The chances of that happening are slim to none. The guy has absolutely nothing left to prove in double A. The way I see it AAA should and probably will be Rasner, Karstens, White, Hughes and Sanchez. Double A should be Ohlendorf, Clippard, Marquez, Chamberlain and Jackson (I think chamberlain is starting in double A due to his Hawaii preformance.) Everyone like Kennedy, Norton, Kontos, Mccallister, Betances, Horne, Abreu and Garcia should fill out single A Tampa and Charleston. I see Kennedy, Betances, Horne, Garcia and Abreu or Norton in tampa. What happened to Kroenke? Depaula is not listed in the depth chart any more – I have no idea where he went but I seriously doubt he is starting in triple A this season over Hughes or Sanchez.
If Pavano doesnt preform this yr, I think the yanks cut their losses and he is gone. Pettitte wanted a one yr contract with a player option which tells me its about 50/50 for him coming back. Moose is here for two yrs and who knows about Igawa? So in two yrs the rotation mmay very well be Wang, Hughes and some other prospect or two. Im hoping for Zambrano but he is going to be costly.
The future stars could be: Hughes (AAA) Sanchez (AAA) Chamberlain (AA) Betances (A) with everyone else capable but with not as high a cieling as is put on those four. Hughes is a finished product in a half a season. Sanchez seems like he needs atleast a full yr in the minors if he is going to start – he needs atleast a full yr of pitching healthy before becoming a major league starter. Chamberlain should be in triple A in a yr and a half or so. Who knows if Chamberlain who is constantly over-weight or Betances who just got out of highschool will ever become what scouts so they might. But the future looks bright and there is atleast one solid pitching prospect at every level.
I just read depaula is likely starting in trenton making me think Chamberlain will be in Tampa. That would probably mean Betances is in Charlston. There is soo many pitchers to fill 20 starting positions not counting the staten island and gulf coast leagues which most of these prospects have already past.
My guess is we’ll see Cox in the pen during the summer.
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Hughes will start in AAA, if not the Bigs. Reports are that he likely will start in AAA and be called up by mid-season if/when an injury occurs. But I wouldn’t be all that shocked if he impresses enough in spring training to stay up from the start. The most likely reason that wouldn’t happen is just a matter of getting his arm ready to pitch that many innings, which they’ve done a good job of slowly but surely increasing his innings over the years, being careful not to rush him. My prediction is AAA till May or June.
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