Cashman: No deal for Rivera until the fall
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Brian Cashman just made an appearance in the press box, essentially to talk about Mariano Rivera.
He said his preference was to wait until after the season to discuss a contract extension. He did not rule out the idea of a contract getting done before then but indicated that would not be the case.
Even for a player of Rivera’s stature, Cashman said, it’s not fair to extend him while other players are in the same situation. Cashman said he “doesn’t doubt” Rivera will remain with the Yankees.
“I don’t think this is as big an issue as it is being played out to be,” Cashman said.
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My confidence in Cash is again on the rise.
it might not be a big deal to cashman, but it sure as hell sounds like a big deal to mo. i’m not impressed with cashman’s work on this one.
does anyone know where i can get a list of the top-prospects in all of baseball?
Thank you.
Did you read Mo’s quote in Pete’s earlier post?
Rivera spoke with Brian Cashman last night and took great pains to explain that he’s not angry with the Yankees regarding their desire to wait until after the season to discuss a contract extension.
“I’m good,� he said. “I’m fine. Really I am.�
Dan
http://www.projectprospect.com/
i read it, and i don’t doubt that mo’s going to give 100% out there this year, as he has every year. but for a player who’s been so consistently quiet – not to mention underpaid in terms of the market – for mo to speak up about something, ANYTHING, speaks volumes about how important it is to him. for cashman not to honor that is really disappointing to me, considering everything rivera has done for the franchise.
On the other hand, if Cashman rewards Rivera’s comments with a brand new contract extension, it makes him look weak on a negotiating standpoint. You can’t just give in to your players’ demands like that, even if they’re coming from somebody like Mo. It sets a precedent and, like Pete already said in the post, it’s not fair to the other players in the same situation. Sometimes a GM has to play hardball. If he didn’t, he wouldn’t be in that job very long.
Mo has made over $70 million since 2001. That’s a lot of respect and honor.
The Yankees have done as much for Mo as he has done for them.
Mariano is the highest paid reliever in the game, not underpaid.
further, he’ll continue to be the highest paid closer, and a Yankee, in due time.
If Mo has his typical dependable year, and he looks like he has two more years in him with careful use, then Cashman will be there on Nov. 1 with a two year deal for about $25M.
Then there’s Posada, with no successor in sight, who will get some consideration as well in November.
Pettitte, don’t forget, has a $16M player option for 2008….Abreu has a $16M club option for 2008.
Then there’s the A-Rod melodrama — does Scott the Snot Boras try to make him even richer and more despised this winter by taking him back out on the market?
With all of this pointing to a potentially expensive winter, it doesn’t really provide Cash the opportunity to pull any of these triggers early in the season. If Mo’s arm falls off in August, a big contract wouldn’t be very good for the books, would it?
Good God, some folks fall for all this media created controversy.
No GM with a functioning braincell is extending a 37 yr old closer, who missed most of the end of last season with an arm injury, during spring training. Yes, even if that closer is Mariano Rivera.
They will pay him if he is healthy and still functioning at a high level, at the end of the season. They did it with Moose, they let Bernie play it out, in his prime, and got it done, and they will do the same for Mo.
Its a non-story.
I think the Yankees would be thrilled if Pettitte stays healthy and wants to pitch in 2008.
A-Rod’s situation will probably be the toughest to handle.
i think mo’s comments stem from his feelings over how bernie was treated and how it could someday be him being the one pushed out. as said earlier, he’s always been classy and direct when asked questions. this time, i think comments were taken out of proportion and made into something much bigger than it is. everyone knows his importance to the team and what it would mean to see him bolt town to another team. i think everyone is in the boat, that when mo’s declining, they want to see it in pinstripes, not any other uniform.
peter, love the blog and your insight. definitely one of my favorite reads on the blogosphere front. i have to say though, i’ve not been a big fan of the audio. i understand it’s all put together rather quickly and there’s no editing, but the audio quality seems to have suffered because of this. what kind of mic are you using?
Just because someone is part of the Yankee past does not mean they have to give them anything they want. Cash is going to do business the way he wants and is going to treat all players the same. He will give them a deal when there deal is up, ecspecially when they are older players. He will take care of them if there is a spot for them on the team but he isn’t going to give up the future to respect the past. Mo will get a deal but Cash is going to do business the way he wants to and I think by sticking to his guns, the Yanks will benefit for years to come. He doesn’t act on emotion like every other Yankee fan out there. He does what is right, not what is popular.
No matter how much they get paid or how much they deserve “respect” baseball is still a business, the Yankees are still a company concerned with personnel and profits, and EVERYONE reports to a “boss”.
Though I think the media overhyped this…but always remember (and I love Bernie and Mo and Melky…and Tino and O’Neill…and Goose and Mattingly and Henderson) NO ONE is EVER good enough to be 100% indispensable. This will get done in due time as long as both sides can agree. Mo wants what he wants and we want our typical “lights out” guy.
Mariano Rivera, whether or not he’s been out due to injury, is still an asset. If he’s deemed to be an asset worth hanging onto, then he’ll get the big bucks.
It is a business. It’ll be run like a business. And it’s hard to imagine a business decision based on anything less than solid facts.
Dan…try topprospectalert.com
As for Mo……GMs by the nature of the job, have to be like poker players. Remember Cashman last year waiting out the Phils for Abreu? A good GM does not tip his hand before it is time! It is NOT time to extend. Come year-end, Mo (and Posada) will get new deals. Cashman knows he has no replacements for either right now. He also knows that both have contracts for 2007 and that he doesn’t have to rush right now. Signing one or both for big money now only to have either or both have a bad year or get injured would prove foolish. Neither Posada or Mo is going anywhere.
If you really want to see someone who was treated shabbily….get out your Yankee history books and check out Rizzuto, Phil….Old Timer’s Day 1956.
SJ44 is right….give Cashman credit for having a brain. GMs (and managers) have to go with their head and not their heart.
Pete, you got out of the Northeast just in time. Snow/sleet/snow…. and bitter cold.
[...] -Cashman on Mo’s contract. [...]
Rivera says he’ll consider offers from other teams
http://myespn.go.com/conversation/story?id=2766006
TAMPA, Fla. — Mariano Rivera had this warning for the New York Yankees: If he becomes a free agent, he’ll consider offers from other teams.
“Everybody has the same shot. The Yankees will not have an advantage.”
– Mariano Rivera
“Everybody has the same shot,” he said Wednesday. “The Yankees will not have an advantage.”
Mo will stay as Yankee. Cashman what are you doing??? I don’t want Mo going to boston…
He won’t get any offers from any other teams. Yankees have a 15 day negotiation period (After they win the world series), where they are the only team that is allowed to negotiate. Assuming he’s healthy, he’ll be signed during that time period.
I will play for the Red Sox before Mariano Rivera does and I think my odds are something like 1,000,000/1.
“Mariano Rivera a Red Sox? It could happen. Sitting in his car outside Legends Field yesterday, Rivera was asked by The Post if he could be Boston’s closer next year.
“You never know,” said Rivera, who is determined to become a free agent.
– New York Post
If George Steinbrenner, who has stepped back but will make the call on Joe Torre’s pinstriped future, doesn’t bring him back, the Boss runs the risk of Torre landing in the Red Sox’s dugout.
– New York Post”
Since when did the NY Post become a Boston newspaper?
And when is Mo “[b]determined[/b]” to become a free agent??
And when is Mo �determined� to become a free agent?? (this html stuff on this blog is all backwards).
A good decision made by Brian Cashman.
the NY Post is not a boston paper, it’s a company selling papers………. Mariano is saying what a player is supposed to say (guided by his agent, no doubt) to drive up his market price. As is Cashman by not giving in to pressure created in and, in part by, the media to make a business decision and show the world he can be pushed around. He’s the Senior VP and GM of one of the most well-known COMPANIES in the world, I think he’s got some business skills….
As Ryan said, we have a window to sign him before anyone else can even contact him. He wants to stay, we want him to stay, the Yankees have the money to top any offer (which won’t matter because he’ll never hear offers), so there is nothing to worry about other than injury, which you have to worry about with any player, at any time. Just as with Mussina this year, they’ll work out a deal. Mo will ask for what he wants, and he’ll get it, and I’ll say right now that it won’t be an absurd amount. He’ll ask to be the top paid closer (as he already is), and he will be, but it’ll be a reasonable and fair amount because Mo’s not an ego maniac.
I think that it is unfair to Mariano. He has been a loyal member of the yankees and this is how they treat him. I have been a Yankee fan for many years but if they are going to start acting like this, then I don’t think I will be one for much longer.