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Nice to see you. Not really

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 13, 2007 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The great shortstop Dave Concepcion is here with the Reds as an instructor. Joe Torre told a Cincy writer that he believed Concepcion should be in the Hall of Fame.

“I would have had a .300 lifetime average if not for that son of a gun,” said Torre, who didn’t say gun. “He used to play me in left field and throw me out from there because I couldn’t run.”

 
 

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12 Responses to “Nice to see you. Not really”

  1. Mr. Vegas March 13th, 2007 at 8:26 pm

    Concepcion was an important player on the Big Red Machine. He was something of an innovator as well. He used to play a deep SS then intentionally underthrow to first knowing that the rock-hard and dirtless Riverfront infield would give the first baseman a clean, predictable hop. Years later, Barry Larkin played with a black glove that he had custom-fitted with brown webbing — the latter was his tribute to Dave Concepcion.

  2. Jake March 13th, 2007 at 9:11 pm

    How Alan Trammell isnt in the Hall I’ll never know. Concepcion wasnt in his class.

    But they cant even put Blyleven in the Hall. Its like they kill a guy for not playing long enough ie Mattingly than kill a guy for playing too long and accumulating stats ie Blyleven, Kaat, Tommy John.

  3. Greg March 13th, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    The Reds lead 5-2 vs. the Yankees in going to 9th

  4. Phil March 13th, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    Trammell career OPS+110. That’s why he’s not in the Hall of Fame.

  5. Greg March 13th, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    The Yankees Lose 6-3 to the Reds.. It’s Yankees to dump and trade Myers. 3 game losing streak, god dam.n

  6. Angel March 13th, 2007 at 10:12 pm

    Yes Greg. It’s March 13 and the sky IS indeed falling.

    :-)

  7. hmmm March 13th, 2007 at 10:49 pm

    “Trammell career OPS+110. That’s why he’s not in the Hall of Fame.”

    you do know he played SS, right?

  8. Phil March 13th, 2007 at 10:58 pm

    hmmmm yeah, I know he played ss. 110′s a tough number to get in on. btw, he did have some HoF type seasons they were just arrayed around a bunch of below average ones.

  9. hmmm March 13th, 2007 at 11:11 pm

    i agree his pattern of seasons looks funny, but you can compare him to guys to the right of SS on the defensive spectrum and make his case.

    a 110 from a GG SS is > than a 114 from 2B (sandberg). or Yount’s 115 considering he was a SS for less than 7 years and an OFer/DH/1B for the latter half.

  10. Phil March 13th, 2007 at 11:42 pm

    Yeah, those guys got in when maybe they shouldn’t have. None of those guys got on base like hall of famers. But I’m sure that’s never been the concept it should have been in HoF voting.

  11. Jeremy March 14th, 2007 at 9:17 am

    FJM already disposed of the “Concepcion in the HOF” notion. Concepcion’s career numbers: .267/.322/.357. Any player with offense that bad does not belong in the HOF.

  12. saucy March 14th, 2007 at 10:12 am

    “Its like they kill a guy for not playing long enough ie Mattingly”

    though Kirby Puckett somehow made it…

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