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		<title>By: LCâ„¢</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/14/joe-torre-postgame-audio/comment-page-2/#comment-10974</link>
		<dc:creator>LCâ„¢</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike S.,
Oh yeah, I TOTALLY see the similarities between the &#039;07 Rays and the &#039;61 Yankees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike S.,<br />
Oh yeah, I TOTALLY see the similarities between the &#8217;07 Rays and the &#8217;61 Yankees.</p>
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		<title>By: sunny615</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/14/joe-torre-postgame-audio/comment-page-1/#comment-10917</link>
		<dc:creator>sunny615</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given his 2006, how can they not?  As with all things, Underdog will have to continue to prove that he can keep his foot out of his mouth all year.  HOPEFULLY, he&#039;ll just keep it shut, but maybe he can take a page from the Book of Jeter and just repeat the Jeterism (UDog, repeat after me) - &quot;As a team, our only goal is to win the World Series.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given his 2006, how can they not?  As with all things, Underdog will have to continue to prove that he can keep his foot out of his mouth all year.  HOPEFULLY, he&#8217;ll just keep it shut, but maybe he can take a page from the Book of Jeter and just repeat the Jeterism (UDog, repeat after me) &#8211; &#8220;As a team, our only goal is to win the World Series.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: murphydog</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/14/joe-torre-postgame-audio/comment-page-1/#comment-10892</link>
		<dc:creator>murphydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny: 

I saw her full disclosure. It was honest. 

I just couldn&#039;t help but notice that even a writer who was trying to keep the torch-carrying angry mob off of Udoggie still had to slap him. This guy must give off negative pheromones or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny: </p>
<p>I saw her full disclosure. It was honest. </p>
<p>I just couldn&#8217;t help but notice that even a writer who was trying to keep the torch-carrying angry mob off of Udoggie still had to slap him. This guy must give off negative pheromones or something.</p>
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		<title>By: sunny615</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunny615</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mdog, but you have to admit that in the very beginning of the article she clearly stated that she was a &quot;card carrying member of the Just-Shut-Up-And-Play club.&quot;  So that kind of last minute backhand was expected.  At least she made it clear that there was (in her opinion) no need to disect the interview (like Madden and Sherman&#039;s shameless articles did).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mdog, but you have to admit that in the very beginning of the article she clearly stated that she was a &#8220;card carrying member of the Just-Shut-Up-And-Play club.&#8221;  So that kind of last minute backhand was expected.  At least she made it clear that there was (in her opinion) no need to disect the interview (like Madden and Sherman&#8217;s shameless articles did).</p>
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		<title>By: sunny615</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunny615</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what a job.  If only everyone had a job as exciting as yours.  Froget everyone - I&#039;d give my neighbors first born to do your job... but then no one here would get unbiased reporting, just a lot of sloppy drooling on who I got to chat with...  

Like I said, fandom is a double edged sword sometimes.  I&#039;m a huge fan of Kansas, but my bracketology has them outted by VT.  sob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what a job.  If only everyone had a job as exciting as yours.  Froget everyone &#8211; I&#8217;d give my neighbors first born to do your job&#8230; but then no one here would get unbiased reporting, just a lot of sloppy drooling on who I got to chat with&#8230;  </p>
<p>Like I said, fandom is a double edged sword sometimes.  I&#8217;m a huge fan of Kansas, but my bracketology has them outted by VT.  sob.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>murphydog,

All the U-dog &quot;poison&quot; is tossed around off the field, in tabloids and blogs.  There not a glimmer of evidence that it hampers U-dog&#039;s teammates.  Even if U-dog and Jeter spend all their free time seething in anger at each other, Jeter was so good in 2006 that he should have won the MVP.  The Yankees blew away the rest of baseball in runs scored despite losing Matsui and Sheffield for most of the season.  The only player who has even intimated that personality/psychological issues negatively affect him is U-dog himself, and he was merely the best-hitting 3B in the league last year.

The &quot;doubt&quot; about keeping U-dog is, like the &quot;poison,&quot; probably unique to fans.  I would be surprised if any of his teammates doubt he should stay, even ones who don&#039;t like him.  I would be astonished if Cashman doubts the team should keep him.  

In short there is no rational reason to doubt whether to keep U-dog.  His hitting is not just good, it&#039;s the best for his position.  The personality issues, while annoying for fans, are nearly irrelevant.  No one has even suggested someone who could replace him (except for derisive references to Mike Lowell).  

And yet in the end I agree with you, I hope he plays well and doesn&#039;t talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>murphydog,</p>
<p>All the U-dog &#8220;poison&#8221; is tossed around off the field, in tabloids and blogs.  There not a glimmer of evidence that it hampers U-dog&#8217;s teammates.  Even if U-dog and Jeter spend all their free time seething in anger at each other, Jeter was so good in 2006 that he should have won the MVP.  The Yankees blew away the rest of baseball in runs scored despite losing Matsui and Sheffield for most of the season.  The only player who has even intimated that personality/psychological issues negatively affect him is U-dog himself, and he was merely the best-hitting 3B in the league last year.</p>
<p>The &#8220;doubt&#8221; about keeping U-dog is, like the &#8220;poison,&#8221; probably unique to fans.  I would be surprised if any of his teammates doubt he should stay, even ones who don&#8217;t like him.  I would be astonished if Cashman doubts the team should keep him.  </p>
<p>In short there is no rational reason to doubt whether to keep U-dog.  His hitting is not just good, it&#8217;s the best for his position.  The personality issues, while annoying for fans, are nearly irrelevant.  No one has even suggested someone who could replace him (except for derisive references to Mike Lowell).  </p>
<p>And yet in the end I agree with you, I hope he plays well and doesn&#8217;t talk.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, i didn&#039;t post that as any sort of reflection on you. 

just thought it was ironic that some of the posters here were accusing the &quot;underdog supporters&quot; (i.e. those who disagreed with you) of not being true yankee fans. 

it&#039;s funny. 

here is one such snippet of wisdom:

&quot;I know youâ€™re a Yankee fan Peter and you blog with integrity. Youâ€™re not in this for the popularity or the profit or the attention. You love the team and it shows. This article was written by a writer just as bright and astute as ever. The fans who canâ€™t grasp your continued understanding of this team are in denial about Arodâ€™s temporary status here. They wonâ€™t change their tone until heâ€™s gone so donâ€™t expect civility. But you nailed it Peter. Underdog is staging his own exit.&quot;

hilarious.  people who truly love the yankees have to hate a-rod. 

wrong again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, i didn&#8217;t post that as any sort of reflection on you. </p>
<p>just thought it was ironic that some of the posters here were accusing the &#8220;underdog supporters&#8221; (i.e. those who disagreed with you) of not being true yankee fans. </p>
<p>it&#8217;s funny. </p>
<p>here is one such snippet of wisdom:</p>
<p>&#8220;I know youâ€™re a Yankee fan Peter and you blog with integrity. Youâ€™re not in this for the popularity or the profit or the attention. You love the team and it shows. This article was written by a writer just as bright and astute as ever. The fans who canâ€™t grasp your continued understanding of this team are in denial about Arodâ€™s temporary status here. They wonâ€™t change their tone until heâ€™s gone so donâ€™t expect civility. But you nailed it Peter. Underdog is staging his own exit.&#8221;</p>
<p>hilarious.  people who truly love the yankees have to hate a-rod. </p>
<p>wrong again.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Abraham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Abraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny: Thanks, some people just don&#039;t get that this is my job or that I haven&#039;t lived in Massachusetts for 21 years.

And I have no desire to go back. Covering the Yankees is the most fun I have ever had in journalism. Great team to cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny: Thanks, some people just don&#8217;t get that this is my job or that I haven&#8217;t lived in Massachusetts for 21 years.</p>
<p>And I have no desire to go back. Covering the Yankees is the most fun I have ever had in journalism. Great team to cover.</p>
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		<title>By: sunny615</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunny615</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Pete is a fan of the Sox but I haven&#039;t seen that slant in his reporting on the Yankees.  Pete&#039;s a big boy and can take care of himself, but in the year and a half I&#039;ve been here reading his articles and his posts, I haven&#039;t found cause to accuse Pete of bias or misreporting and is (and has been) doing his job as a professional by keeping his fandom out of his work.  

Pete has always been able to maintain objectivity in his reporting from the numerous articles that I have read and I have no cause to start thinking that all sudden that has changed.  Nothing I&#039;ve seen here warrants that.  His recent posts while not &quot;GO UNDERDOG!&quot; have definitely not been &quot;UNDERDOG S*CKS!!&quot;  He&#039;s not paid to root for the Yankees just report on them and I don&#039;t expect him to.  The blog is a means to solicit his opinion on certain things - which invites discussion (I don&#039;t condone the personal attacks as those are the kind of things that gives fandom a bad rap) and I think that makes for an exciting blog.  

There&#039;s a big difference between being a fan of something and letting it affect your work.  Pete has even lambasted Schilling on this blog (with colorful pictures of Schilling&#039;s budda/pregnancy), cracking on Schilling&#039;s Cash is my best friend name dropping and also including a hilarious cartoon of Schilling/Nancy Drew a few weeks ago.  That doesn&#039;t sound like Sox fandom to me.  

I&#039;ve seen over a year and a half of good unbiased reporting from Pete on the Yankees and one or two blog posts with opinions (not reporting) that I may not agree with isn&#039;t going to make me think Pete&#039;s a biased reporter all of a sudden.  This opinion of Pete may not be popular right now, but I don&#039;t see any reason to blame Pete for Underdog&#039;s troubles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Pete is a fan of the Sox but I haven&#8217;t seen that slant in his reporting on the Yankees.  Pete&#8217;s a big boy and can take care of himself, but in the year and a half I&#8217;ve been here reading his articles and his posts, I haven&#8217;t found cause to accuse Pete of bias or misreporting and is (and has been) doing his job as a professional by keeping his fandom out of his work.  </p>
<p>Pete has always been able to maintain objectivity in his reporting from the numerous articles that I have read and I have no cause to start thinking that all sudden that has changed.  Nothing I&#8217;ve seen here warrants that.  His recent posts while not &#8220;GO UNDERDOG!&#8221; have definitely not been &#8220;UNDERDOG S*CKS!!&#8221;  He&#8217;s not paid to root for the Yankees just report on them and I don&#8217;t expect him to.  The blog is a means to solicit his opinion on certain things &#8211; which invites discussion (I don&#8217;t condone the personal attacks as those are the kind of things that gives fandom a bad rap) and I think that makes for an exciting blog.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a big difference between being a fan of something and letting it affect your work.  Pete has even lambasted Schilling on this blog (with colorful pictures of Schilling&#8217;s budda/pregnancy), cracking on Schilling&#8217;s Cash is my best friend name dropping and also including a hilarious cartoon of Schilling/Nancy Drew a few weeks ago.  That doesn&#8217;t sound like Sox fandom to me.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen over a year and a half of good unbiased reporting from Pete on the Yankees and one or two blog posts with opinions (not reporting) that I may not agree with isn&#8217;t going to make me think Pete&#8217;s a biased reporter all of a sudden.  This opinion of Pete may not be popular right now, but I don&#8217;t see any reason to blame Pete for Underdog&#8217;s troubles.</p>
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		<title>By: murphydog</title>
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		<dc:creator>murphydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny: 

I&#039;m OK with your perspective. I just found it interesting that in the midst of trying to write a positive piece, Johnette still slapped him.

My last word on this guy: I don&#039;t blame Udoggie for the Yanks not winning since 2000. With all due respect, no serious student of the game would do that. My view is that the failure rate was mostly a pitching issue coupled with a failure to maintain a robust farm system and over-exploiting the free agent market. As for Udoggie&#039;s role, it&#039;s minimal or it&#039;s neutral. I&#039;m giving him a &quot;small sample&quot; pass on his post season numbers and acknowledging his regular season goodness. How to quantify or assess what he does for the team, and whether we pay to keep him, are the only issues for me. 

I don&#039;t have Bill James&#039;, Nate Silver&#039;s or Keith Woolner&#039;s facility with numbers, but even they can&#039;t measure personality objectively or with precision. Everybody is a mixed bag. Some people bring a lot more good than bad to the table. It all depends on how bad the bad is for a given environment. At some point, even though the good stuff is really good, you still know that a little poison goes a long way. There shouldn&#039;t be any doubt about keeping Udoggie, but there is. That&#039;s got to mean something. I wish him well and I wish him a season long case of laryngitis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny: </p>
<p>I&#8217;m OK with your perspective. I just found it interesting that in the midst of trying to write a positive piece, Johnette still slapped him.</p>
<p>My last word on this guy: I don&#8217;t blame Udoggie for the Yanks not winning since 2000. With all due respect, no serious student of the game would do that. My view is that the failure rate was mostly a pitching issue coupled with a failure to maintain a robust farm system and over-exploiting the free agent market. As for Udoggie&#8217;s role, it&#8217;s minimal or it&#8217;s neutral. I&#8217;m giving him a &#8220;small sample&#8221; pass on his post season numbers and acknowledging his regular season goodness. How to quantify or assess what he does for the team, and whether we pay to keep him, are the only issues for me. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have Bill James&#8217;, Nate Silver&#8217;s or Keith Woolner&#8217;s facility with numbers, but even they can&#8217;t measure personality objectively or with precision. Everybody is a mixed bag. Some people bring a lot more good than bad to the table. It all depends on how bad the bad is for a given environment. At some point, even though the good stuff is really good, you still know that a little poison goes a long way. There shouldn&#8217;t be any doubt about keeping Udoggie, but there is. That&#8217;s got to mean something. I wish him well and I wish him a season long case of laryngitis.</p>
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