Phil Franchise, please pick up line one
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Mar 25, 2007 
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Jeff Karstens has what he said was a “stiff” elbow, which is why he was taken out of the game.
He never got loose warming up but didn’t tell Ron Guidry and Joe Torre until after the second inning. They took him out of the game at that point.
So at the moment the totally healthy Yankee starters in camp are Mike Mussina, Carl Pavano, Kei Igawa and Darrell Rasner.
Not a smart move on his part. He’s done very well and I don’t think it would have hurt him to say I can’t get loose! He could have injured himself trying to pitch thru this!
How has Phil been doing down in the Minors camp?
Pete! You listed the healthy ones!!!! That’s definitely going to jinx them.
everyones taking a page out of pavano’s book this spring except pavano thus far
Karstens has probably been overthrowing.
Pretty clear that Karstens stuff wasn’t what he was showing before the start vs the Blue Jays
Rich – it’s not overthrowing – not if you command the way Karstens did earlier in this spring
it makes you wonder if Karstens was ‘tight’ for the Jays game, too.
His velocity today topped at 89.. and was mostly 87 on the FB
He didn’t have break or command on his breaking stuff
Jennifer: No idea, it’s enough keeping tabs of the big-league camp.
Scooter,
I mean that he may have been muscling up to get a little extra velocity which could have caused the elbow problems.
Don’t they need a fifth starter about once in April?
TAMPA, FL – While Chien-Ming Wang pitched Scranton to a 4-3 victory over the Phillies on Thursday on field one, Phil Hughes looked like his regular self as he led the Trenton Thunder to a 6-3 win on field two.
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A 5th starter is basically a non-issue through most of April
Rich -
Torre and Guidry have both said that Villone has tried to overthrow. The symptom is usually wildness – if you try to throw harder, you usually lose command AND movement
Karstens had a lot of sink earlier in ST. I didn’t see signs of overthrowing.
Remember – it was a given that the Karstens we saw at the end of 2006 was ‘out of gas’ (I think Joe said this)
I don’t think overthrowing has one consequence, but no big deal either way.
or it could be that Karstens is regressing to his career averages.
Maybe so, but if he’s hurting that’s a confound that makes it hard to accurately assess what’s going on.
they will be fine they have plenty of young pitching depth. It is a long season that has not started yet…..
I think it is natural that someone thisclose to making the team and realizing his dream will overthrow or overstride.
You knew he would come back to earth eventually. Even Koufax didn’t win EVERY time out.
It could be that Karstens could smell the finish line (a spot on the team) and a) overthrew or got out of his rhythm the last two starts and/or b) doing so caused the stiffness in his elbow.
He’s young, and it would be natural for him to try to do more in order to make the team. It happens.
Rasner is a better pitcher anyhow. Maybe he gets the shot instead.
darrell rasner is washington nationals leftover garbage. hes nothing and will be nothing. hes not a major league pitcher. get it through your thick heads.
Get this through your head: Rasner ranked in the National’s top ten prospects, has done nothing to prove he can’t pitch at the major league level, and throws sinkers. Groundballs are much preferable to flyballs. Ask Chien-Ming Wang.
Good point. too bad rasner isnt a groundball pitcher either
Career Stats in Minors:
Karstens: 522 IP, 3.67 ERA, K/9: 7.43, BB/9: 2.29, HR/9: 0.72, WHIP: 1.29
Rasner: 520 IP, 3.44 ERA, K/9: 6.87, BB/9: 2.39, HR/9: 0.52, WHIP: 1.29
They are basically the same pitcher.
Highlight of today – Austin “Action” Jackson with an RBI double
Joel Sherman talked to several scouts, and identified him as a breakout player this year – was in single-A last year.
Proctor and Vizcaino look ready
As PooNani points out, Rasner isn’t a ground ball pitcher. He’s a control pitcher with a plus curve, and a mediocre fastball
Shoot me now. Good thing our SWB staff looks so strong.
One shows strong flyball tendencies, one doesn’t. That makes a difference.
rasner would probably be the nationals #3 starter this season.
the fact that they let him go reflects badly on the nationals, not on Rasner.
Rasner has the potential to be a back of the rotation starter for the yankees. he’s not great, but he’s not “garbage”.
I’ve been saying the same thing about Jackson.
wawaweewa:
You are making one HUGE mistake.
You are assuming that the Nationals actually know what the bleep they are doing.
Think again.
Maybe Proctor can start opening day. He has been lights out this spring.
Opening day is just another regular season game. Who cares who starts that day. Moose and Pettitte are going to be ready for their initial starts.
“or it could be that Karstens is regressing to his career averages”
What is THAT supposed to mean?? He is 24 yrs old and has 42 innings of MLB experience – with a 2-1 record and a 3.80 ERA.
His 4-yr MiLB career stats show improvement at every level.
Pretty good for an “under the radar” prospect!
I blame on Today’s loss against Tigers on Todd Pratt. He’s worst game caller catcher ever. I didn’t see Jeff Karstens throw once a curve today.. When Wil Nieves came in the ballgame, Tigers stop scoring runs.. i would rather have Nieves than Todd Pratt.
Unless the Yanks start throwing guys on 3 days rest – unlikely at the start of the season – a fifth starter will be required by April 8 at the latest, with 8 straight days from the 4th to the 11th. Then won’t be required again until the 21st in Boston or sooner against Cleveland if trying to avoid that option. With 13 straight days from the 17th to the 29th, that’s 2 more for #5. Of course Wang could be back by then, but the 8th against Baltimore is a done deal.
It’s likely that Rasner will get a few spot starts this season – the Yanks have used an average of over 11 different starters each year from 2000 on, 9 being the least. So if Karstens is out, may as well get him ready. He went 4.2 on Friday, could go again next Wed. and maybe throw again in extended camp on the 1st or 2nd. No chance of minors start since they don’t start until the 5th.
Gotta play the hand you’re dealt.
Maybe Karstens didn’t throw the curve because his elbow was bothering him. But yeah, that is Pratt’s fault.
Ever since I left Tampa, things have gone downhill. i think its time i return. Peter, lets set up a fund in my name!!
Here’s The pitching sequence to Curtis Granderson and Placido Polanco called by Great Todd Pratt – Best signal caller ever.
Todd Pratt call the pitch to Curtis Granderson – First pitch was down in Fastball? Everyone knows that Curtis Granderson weakness was Curveball. He’s aggressive hitter and likes to hit first pitch fastball
Same thing Placido Polanco = First pitch was Up In Fastball which Polanco hit it the other way.
I heard Wang is a smoker. Is that true? Maybe he has to stop to avoid getting these types of muscle/tendon injuries.
Again. Karstens was pitching hurt and its a spring game. Just silly.
Where’s Gloomy’s gregorious post?
This team cannot win; guaranteed
GllomyCarl Pavano will have the lowest era on the staff! He will pitch about 6 scoreless innings and be on injured reserve the rest of the year. He is the Don Gullet of our day.
This team has won nothing since 2001. I remember coming to the ball park after work many times in the late innings, could have been early August or May, didnt matter, the game would still going, the team was killing itself to get it done. Whether Tino hit a 11th inning homerun or someone made a big play, it was all about team, guys pulling together to win no matter what it takes. That spirit is dead.
Gone are the hungry role players, like Chad Curtis or Gerardi, the power pitchers like Clemens or Jeff Nelson. When Clemens couldn’t strike you out he threw at your head. Failing that, he threw your broken bat back at you. Piazza was frightened of Clemens, he said there was no one homw when he looked in his eyes. What passion!
Don’t expect that from the team this year. Maybe Andy can have one last go round.
The rest of the hurlers are junk ball throwers who are going to lead the team to a soft division win and a fall in the post season. They are abusing their true believer, Mariano Rivera.
Jason Giambi, ARod, Mussina and Pavano have no hearts, no spirit, no hunger and no souls. Giambi says he is an atheist.
They collect fat checks. the spirits of the monuments don’t call out to them, all they hear are their agents calling them for their next endorsement.
i loved the team in 2001, the New York last ditch wins during the WS were unforgettable. Even though they didnt win it that year, it was of course the end of ‘the dynasty’, they had heart and soul after 911 that inspired the City. The Lord was with them. they were one with the City, the fans, the stadium, and the spirits in the monuments.
Baseball teams win one of three ways, either brilliant professionalism, hungry passionate players or young talent. The Yanks used to have the first two during the dynasty years.
I am hoping these rookies can do something.
Sorry if i feel like cheering a team on to a definite playoff series loss is a waste of time. They cannot win, guaranteed. Not these guys.
the yankees rotation, without wang, is CONSIDERABLY weakend. whether you want to admit to that or not, it’s a fact. pettitte’s back remains a question mark, and somebody remind me how mussina’s spring has gone so far. that’s not even mentioning pavano and igawa. thank god this is happening in april and not august. the yankees may well whether this storm, but they’ll need to hit their way through april. period. if the big bats start the year cold, count on a lot of games winding up in the L column. three weeks in april isn’t going to make or break their season, but if wang’s out longer, or pettitte goes down for a period of time, this team is in HUGE trouble. to look at it any other way is to be delusional.
Lots of stupidity in that post. Its not even worth answering.
Hmmmmmm. That’s funny… I appear to have a clone, only slightly smaller.
Gloomy’s a salad tossin’ Sox fan.
Sox Fan? I’m Yankees Fan. I’m expressing my opinion and telling the truth.
“Jason Giambi, ARod, Mussina and Pavano have no hearts, no spirit, no hunger and no souls. Giambi says he is an atheist.
i loved the team in 2001, the New York last ditch wins during the WS were unforgettable. Even though they didnt win it that year, it was of course the end of ‘the dynasty’, they had heart and soul after 911 that inspired the City. The Lord was with them. they were one with the City, the fans, the stadium, and the spirits in the monuments”
you do know mussina was on the team in 2001, right?
Gloomy:
Are you really Gary Sheffield in disguise????????
“I’m expressing my opinion and telling the truth.”
this is all you have to know about Gloomy’s arguing style.
his “opinion” is the “truth”.
damn. guess the season is over. go Mets!!
Gloomy — if the Yankees give you so much grief, why even tune in? Find another pastime.
“Gone are the hungry role players, like Chad Curtis or Gerardi, the power pitchers like Clemens or Jeff Nelson. ”
i can’t believe the Yankees haven’t been able to find a replacement for Roger Clemens!! that is so easy to do!!!
David, how is that a stupid post by Gloomy. He may be a depressing presence but it has some logical thoughts to it. He brings up real issues instead of issues that you idiots bring up like Basak v. Cairo or Phelps v. Philips none of which will have a big impact on this season. I want the Yanks to win the Series more than anyone but you have to look at it realistically. They will have to hit there way to a title this year. Our staff is a few years away from being good and still we need a FA or two to get over the top. No way we win the Series playin 3-2 games in the playoffs just because of our staff and those are the types of games you have to win.
I am not calling off the season but I hope our pitchers can stay healthy and they really have to add the Rocket to have a shot this year.
Karstens did not even remotely resemble the Karstens who pitch against the Sox two starts ago. I’m not surpried to hear he was hurting. The fastball was mush slower, the slider and changer weren’t sharp and the curveball was absent. I hope he doesn’t need TJ.
“Sorry if i feel like cheering a team on to a definite playoff series loss is a waste of time.”
good. then leave now and don’t come back all season. wouldn’t want you to waste your precious time.
Gloomy, you are a idiot. So I guess a guy who makes alot of money has no heart. If Giambi has not heart, then why guys like Jeter and Posada and Rivera love the guy. Not to mention Giambi has been to a World series before with bum knee. Arod came into this year more leaner. Again, do the yankees have problems yes no question, bu some of your statements made no sense and were ridiculous.
It never ceases to amaze me that fans of a team are ready to flush the season down the toilet during Spring Training. The Yankees spend $200 million a year trying to get the best possible team out there. Injuries happen but for fans to basically trash the team shows themselves to be anything but a fan, especially when are as good as the Yankees are this year.
Good grief Charlie Brown
“The Lord was with them. ”
up until, presumably, the 9th inning of game 7, right? then the Lord switched allegiances to the D-Backs, i suppose. the Lord is really fickle when it comes to deciding baseball games.
you really are an idiot.
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Quote from Buster Olney
I always thought that there was an unusual obsession with Opening Day starters and lineups, in a sport which has a 162-game regular season; it really doesn’t matter whether Pavano starts Game 1 or Game 4 or 5. But the fact that Pavano is the guy getting the ball in the situation may be apropos of the Yankees’ starting pitching vulnerability.
In past years, they would always have three or four Cy Young-worthy candidates lined up, like jumbo jets on a runway, and were interchangeable. This year is different. This year, they probably have the least rotation depth since Joe Torre took over as manager. Jeff Karstens moves into the rotation as Wang’s replacement, and the Yankees feel very good about Karstens, about the way he has thrown this spring, about his future. But it says a lot about where the Yankees are now and where they are going, philosophically, that they will ask an unproven pitcher, rather than a former All-Star, to plug a rotation gap for them.
In the big picture, the Yankees are moving in the right direction. They are making the right choices, focusing, once more, on their farm system. This year, however, they seem to be more at risk for not making the playoffs than in any season since 1993. We’ll see.
Im an Idiot?
Nick B:
We are mostly diehard Yankee Fans on this Blog and discussing battles for utility roles does not make others idiots. Show a little sensitivity, Super Scout!
“Im an Idiot?”
if you are looking to Buster Olney for support, you probably are.
“I’m expressing my opinion and telling the truth.”
Correct on #1, full of shit on #2. Some people take a LOT of liberty in misusing the word “truth” in their posts here.
“Gloomy”, do your family members gather around to talk you out of slitting your wrists when you don’t get exactly what you want for Christmas? Or do they get as far away as possible so they don’t have to listen you blaming them and calling them a sucky family?
Honestly, if this team just can’t do anything right for you, move on.
Umm, Gloomy, Mussina and Pettitte will pitch games 2 and 3. The problem is not that they Yankees don’t have an ace, it is that they don’t line up to start on opening day. Does it really make a difference if, in the three games, Pavano, Mussina, Pettitte, the Yankees go 2 and 1? Does it matter which one they lose, which 2 they win? And even if they go 1 and 2 in the first three games, how does that mean a darn thing? It is a LONG, LONG season. It is a MARATHON. You really have to pace yourself, or you’re going to be burnt out BEFORE THE SEASON EVEN STARTS! Relax. It’s a game. (and a business, but mostly, it’s a game)
“In past years, they would always have three or four Cy Young-worthy candidates lined up, like jumbo jets on a runway, and were interchangeable. This year is different. This year, they probably have the least rotation depth since Joe Torre took over as manager. ”
this is absolutely and uncategorically false.
Hmmm — I’m with you. Plus, I think the Lord has far too many more important things to worry about than who wins what game.
hmmm- the rotation is not that deep, they need Clemens in June, no argument about it. They are not going to win the world series in june by getting him but they could lose it by not getting him and letting him go to the Sox.
And what the hell does Giambi being an atheist have to do with anything?
Anybody that writes off the Yankees on March 25 is either a manic depressive that wants to expect the worst, or a Sox fan in bogus pinstripes trying to badmouth the Yankees to the detriment of the real Yankee fans here who aren’t going to let a few bumps in the road dampen our spirits.
“hmmm- the rotation is not that deep, they need Clemens in June, no argument about it. ”
how can you say that the Yankees had more depth in 2004-2006 though??
do these names ring a bell: Sean Henn, Tim Redding, Donovan Osbourne, Tanyon Sturtze, etc. etc.
the parade of crap the yankees have run out to the hill has been staggering.
for the record, i would like to see Clemens back.
“In past years, they would always have three or four Cy Young-worthy candidates lined up, like jumbo jets on a runway, and were interchangeable.”
who are these pitchers he is referring to from 2004-2006?
Man, you guys are letting Gloomy play you.
Gloomy what does being an atheist have to do with anything?
For Pete’s sake, it’s not even April. It’s only March 25th. Injuries happen to everyone. Enough already.
you are probably right.
see ya later guys. By the way Georgetown win…
Is Gloomy related to Kasey?
The Yanks have more pitching depth than they had in quite a long time. A bunch of the AAA kids are going to be ready very soon. Pavano is starting because opening day doesn’t mean any more than the next game, which Mussina will pitch and then Pettitte after that. The Yankees are set to be a very good team. Anyone who says differently doesn’t know baseball–at all.
NEWSFLASH the Yankees minor league pitching depth is the best it has been in minimum 10 yrs. they have hughes(has a little potential), clippard(look at his #’s), sanchez, rasner or karstens, the power sinker guy from the tigers and on and on..
they have plenty of young pitchers some will make it and some will make it big..
they need to release Mentichewicz(howerver you spell it) keep phelps, waive villone and keep henn and try some young guys like every other team in baseball.
the pen is deeper then last yr(Vizciano) and again they have good arms in the minors.
Tabata and Jackson are future stud OF’s, the only place they lack minor league talent is catcher, it is real barren…
wow, so most of us are sold that the yankees will not win the world world series or anything, because karstens has a stiff elbow??
Jeez, the loons are out today.
they have jesus montero at catcher, who is 16 years old, and hits the ball, like power hitting major leaguers.
he’ll probably be moved later though
This is the same Buster Olney who picks the Indians to win it all.
Clemens would be nice, but there is no guarantees there. One year his birth certificate will catch up with him.
Buster Olney from ESPN? You mean the same ESPN takes every change to dig on the Yankees? I don’t trust a word that any one of those guys says. But I do trust SI, who coincidentally picked the Yankees to win the WS. So did Vegas.
While I realize that pre-season predictions mean nothing, they do mean that many people who do this for a living expect the Yankees to be in the hunt, at the very least. Far from a dismal season.
So Gloomy, we’ll talk when your hapless Sox are 10 behind our Yankees in August. Just like they’ve been for the last 88 out of 89 years.
I’ve never felt better about the direction this organization is going in and that doesn’t change just because Wang’s got a sore hammy.
I sure wish George , was the good ole George , and didnt give a hoot about his teams salary, i certainly dont. But, it appears
that George has softened, and has let his underlings convince him they must cut salary,and line they’re pockets for the good
of the Yankees. What a crock…………………..
That said, i think this team has the worst pitching staff since the early 90′s, and will finish 3rd behind the Jays and Boston.Trading
Johnson for 3 bodies,was dumb, Randy could throw his golve on the mound and win 15, who’s going to pick up thos wins Cashman?Mussina, 2 years, geess he’s 40 and on the down slide, fastball is 87, it isnt going to cut it anymore. SHEFF FOR A BAG OF BALLS, GREAT MOVE Cash….. Dont want to negotiate with A-Rod to extend his contract, did you forget that Texas is paying 10m per year for next 3 years, which means he’s only costing us 15mil, once he opts out, thats it, Texas will be off the hook for the the 30m, and any1 who signs him will pay full pop, we can still extend his contract, and only worry about additional 3 years, Ohh, should i even bring up carrying 3 first baseman, and a 40 year old backup catcher.
I just hope im wrong about all of this, but. this pitching staff is terrible……..we may win 85 games, great job Cash, you’ll probably be gone after this year anyway………..
I was saying this whole off-season that Cashman didn’t do NEAR enough to bolster our pitching staff and he let 3 regulars (2 starters and 1 LETHAL power righty bat) go for nothing but prospects, only ONE of which will even contribute at the start of 2007 (Vizcaino), and 2 at most during the year as relievers (Maybe Humberto Sanchez.. maybe not). His only real signing of impact was Pettitte. This is not a pretty picture, for sure. But, the entire time I’ve been saying this I’ve been called all manner of names, from “whiney baby” to “Mr/Ms. Pessimistic” to “..wow, you think the sky is falling, you id.io.t”, to “red sox fan troll”.. LOL, etc.
Most folks just believe that the Yankees will be great, no matter what, because they are the Yankees. Sadly, that day no longer exists. Look around at the competition. I don’t like the new Cashman regime. At least George was willing to do whatever it took to put the best team on the field. Some times it worked, and some times it didn’t, but you never had to fear (like we do now, it appears) that your team would sit around and do little to nothing while their competition stacked up the whole offseason. Again, look around, behind us, ahead of us.. we’re surrounded by teams that are going to be as good.
I wish George were healthy enough to do something about it. Seems his health must really be pretty bad, as we hear almost nothing from him anymore. And, clearly Cashman is at the helm. This is Cashman’s first real year of truly being in charge. So far, I don’t care for the new order.
Lastly, I don’t know why everyone worries about money spent for the Yankees. People here often say, “Well, at least Cashman didn’t overspend”.. (for this guy or that guy). WHO CARES? Is it your money? Do you have stock in the NY Yankees? Is that revenue tax going to hurt your pocketbook? We didn’t care what the money was while we were winning, did we? This team sounds like the Red Sox of yester-year and they now look like the Yankees of yester-year.
The only thing I will say is Cash will regert not spending more for Dice-K but what is done is done – make sure the Rocket comes back – he can mentor Hughes but we need him in May
lol gloomy please go take a walk.
The Yankees pitching rotation doesn’t have much depth as it used to. But what’s the last time the Yankees ever had an arsenal of young quaility arms as they do know?
Sure – it’s not the days of Clemens, Cone, El Duque, Pettite 1-4… but seriously Humberto Sanchez, Phil Franchise, Ohlendorf, Karstens etc… there’s some internal options for a change this year.
Also – this might be Torre’s best bullpen since 1996. I’m not a big believer on getting caught up in spring training – but Proctor and Vizcaino look good. Whelan and Britton are two promising arms in the minors if there’s an injury. So are JB Cox and TJ Beam. (Colter Bean is a AAAA pitcher). Farnsworth, Myers, Bruney give depth to the pen. And Rivera still has some left in the tank – if he can use the change up in a game he might add another 2-3 years on his career.
The pen came up for any shortfall in the rotation. Wang will be OK and pencil him in for 15-2o wins. I think Moose and Pettite will anchor the middle. If Igawa and Pavano go .500 – the Yanks will still make the playoffs. The lineup can flat out bash. They’re getting younger. They didn’t splurge on high-priced unproven pitcher this winter (unlike the Pavano/Wright of two years ago).
I alomst see this is a bit of a transitional year. Cashman’s put together a team that’s still capable of winning it all and contending but at the same time – he’s set it up for another five years of success.
Next year Wang and Franchise will anchor the rotation. They could make a play for Zambrano. They have the trade chips with young arms if Dontrelle were to become available.
Offensively – Cano’s development has added youth – so has Melky’s. I can’t wait to see Tabata in pinstripes.
This is no longer the aging team that trotted out Randy Johnson and Kevin Brown to the hill. The Yanks have embraced the farm system concept again – and remember they have the luxury that few teams have – THEY CAN AFFORD TO KEEP THEIR OWN PLAYERS!
Gloomy – look outside… it’s partly sunny not cloudy. It’s spring… as Dickens called it – the season of hope.
dude, you are embarrassing yourself.
This is the kind of comment that forces me to jump in….
“I sure wish George , was the good ole George , and didnt give a hoot about his teams salary, i certainly dont. But, it appears that George has softened, and has let his underlings convince him they must cut salary,and line they’re pockets for the good of the Yankees. What a crock……..”
Gloomy, you probably don’t realize that this kind of salary insanity costs the Yankees another $40-50 million in luxury taxes. And they already pay a ton in revenue sharing too.
It’s called financial sanity. Why give money away to other teams just because you sign older, one-dimensional players and give them insane no-trade clauses, and still fail to make it past the first round of the playoffs?
“just hope im wrong about all of this, but. this pitching staff is terrible……..we may win 85 games, great job Cash, you’ll probably be gone after this year anyway………..”
don’t worry, you’re wrong. if you think this team is an 85 win team, you obviously know very little about baseball.
Gloomy,
Bubba Crosby? Is that you??? How’s Cincy?
Keep ‘em coming, gloomy! Laughing away at your posts….
but seriously, saying this is the worst staff since the early 90s??! What are you smoking?
I think that Gloomy is just busting people. He can’t be serious.
It’s quite obvious Gloomy’s a Sox fan. Every so often some Sox fan will show up on a Yankee site, pretend to be a Yankee fan, and then proceed to point out every aspect of the Yankees and what they’re doing, in a totally negative fashion. He’ll probably throw in a positive comment or two here and there, just to try to convince people of his sincerity. He may even say he hates the Red Sox. He’ll even say he hopes he’s wrong after portraying the Yankees season in a totally worst case scenario. It’s bullshit.
If he admitted to being a Boston fan, he’d be slapped around, tossed aside and totally ignored. But posing as a Yank fan, he can induce people to argue and debate his obviously jaded comments. Don’t waste your time.
Pete please find Gloomy’s IP address and ban the man this is getting out of control. I mean the guy or whatever he is can’t write an intelligent sentence.
no need to ban him just b/c we disagree with him.
Eric,
Cashman has nothing to regret, no one would have thought that the Red Sox would eventually bid $51M just on the posting fee. To me that’s way too high to just talk to a guy no matter how good he is.
By the way who is this Gloomy? Sad to see another idiot posting comments here.
I think Cash did miscalculate the Matsuzaka bid, but it happens. His good moves outweigh his +non-moves+.
Gloomy
March 25th, 2007 at 8:24 pm
Who’s Ever post that and It wasn’t me. Some Idiot is impersonating my name. He’s is probably a Redsox Fan..
joe girardi is offended that people can’t even spell his name right.
The best part about this blog is the difference of opinion. If everyone agreed on everything, these arguments wouldn’t happen then people would have to concentrate on their jobs instead of the blog. I think its funny there are 2 gloomy’s now.
This team cannot win; guaranteed
Carl Pavano will have the lowest era on the staff! He will pitch about 6 scoreless innings and be on injured reserve the rest of the year. He is the Don Gullet of our day.
This team has won nothing since 2001. I remember coming to the ball park after work many times in the late innings, could have been early August or May, didnt matter, the game would still going, the team was killing itself to get it done. Whether Tino hit a 11th inning homerun or someone made a big play, it was all about team, guys pulling together to win no matter what it takes. That spirit is dead.
Gone are the hungry role players, like Chad Curtis or Gerardi, the power pitchers like Clemens or Jeff Nelson. When Clemens couldn’t strike you out he threw at your head. Failing that, he threw your broken bat back at you. Piazza was frightened of Clemens, he said there was no one homw when he looked in his eyes. What passion!
Don’t expect that from the team this year. Maybe Andy can have one last go round.
The rest of the hurlers are junk ball throwers who are going to lead the team to a soft division win and a fall in the post season. They are abusing their true believer, Mariano Rivera.
Jason Giambi, ARod, Mussina and Pavano have no hearts, no spirit, no hunger and no souls. Giambi says he is an atheist.
They collect fat checks. the spirits of the monuments don’t call out to them, all they hear are their agents calling them for their next endorsement.
i loved the team in 2001, the New York last ditch wins during the WS were unforgettable. Even though they didnt win it that year, it was of course the end of ‘the dynasty’, they had heart and soul after 911 that inspired the City. The Lord was with them. they were one with the City, the fans, the stadium, and the spirits in the monuments.
Baseball teams win one of three ways, either brilliant professionalism, hungry passionate players or young talent. The Yanks used to have the first two during the dynasty years.
I am hoping these rookies can do something.
Sorry if i feel like cheering a team on to a definite playoff series loss is a waste of time. They cannot win, guaranteed. Not these guys.
the yankees rotation, without wang, is CONSIDERABLY weakend. whether you want to admit to that or not, it’s a fact. pettitte’s back remains a question mark, and somebody remind me how mussina’s spring has gone so far. that’s not even mentioning pavano and igawa. thank god this is happening in april and not august. the yankees may well whether this storm, but they’ll need to hit their way through april. period. if the big bats start the year cold, count on a lot of games winding up in the L column. three weeks in april isn’t going to make or break their season, but if wang’s out longer, or pettitte goes down for a period of time, this team is in HUGE trouble. to look at it any other way is to be delusional.
I must say you are the prototypical spoiled Yankee fan that needs it all.
200 Mil Payroll with a respectable farm system, yet thats not good enough for you huh?
Christ, imagine if you were a Devil Ray fan, or maybe a Royal fan? You would of jumped off the ledge by now.
Imposters? That’s no fun.
This place needs Logins and Registrations before it gets out of hand.
Worst pitching staff since the early 90′s? Dude, go away for a few years until you understand the game.
The current crop of youngsters is deeper than at any time in recent memory. Trying to compare them to a Clay Parker or Jeff Johnson is absolutely ignorant.
Trading Sheff for a bag of balls? Cashman improved pitching depth by getting rid of someone who had NO POSITION TO PLAY and was nothing but a distraction—much as Randy became a distraction (we won’t go into the distraction that Alex has become).
Go back and get more Valium. As one person wrote, you are embarrassing yourself.
Karsten’s velocity was down yesterday. Earlier in camp he was throwing in the low 90′s with good control of his FB and breaking pitches. In the offseason, he added ~20-lbs of muscle which accounted for his better fastball. We’ll see what the MRI results show and hopefully it is something minor. I would hate for him to have blown out his arm trying to make the team.
More troubling is Pettite- back problems have a way of being an issue for a long time and never quite go away. Ask Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson, Kyle Farnsworth and Don Mattingly….
The beat writers have started to clamor for Rocket. While a good story, how much would he really help the team? He can still pitch, but anyone who expects him to repeat his stats from last year is dreaming. In the AL he would be a 5 inning pitcher with an ERA ~4.00. He would tax the bullpen every 5th day and take a spot from someone potentially more deserving. My inclination is to see how Pavano and Igawa work out before giving Rocket a blank check, and even then I would check to see how Hughes is doing in Scranton.
This team needs to win with the future not grasp at straws from the past.
How long will it take Yankees fans to know how to spell PETTITTE.
Gloomy
March 26th, 2007 at 1:32 am
Somebody using’s my name… That wasn’t me….
Why is it that I think Gloomy came on here and posted that with the sole objective of fishing for a couple of bites.
Good job, Gloomy. You got a whole netful with that post.