Comments on: So much for Ron Villone? http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/ A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:07:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Mike http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/comment-page-1/#comment-15228 Mike Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:29:47 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/#comment-15228 Yanks were never going to get a draft pick for Ron Villone because no one ever intended on signing him. I'm guessing that it is no secret that Villone's arm is virtually done, and I am sure other general managers were well aware of what had happened. Thanks for a solid season last year Ron! Yanks were never going to get a draft pick for Ron Villone because no one ever intended on signing him. I’m guessing that it is no secret that Villone’s arm is virtually done, and I am sure other general managers were well aware of what had happened. Thanks for a solid season last year Ron!

]]> By: Ben K. http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/comment-page-1/#comment-15215 Ben K. Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:32:34 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/#comment-15215 _If he had Karstens’ stomach he’d be a big winner._ Is that a stat? How many KS does Mussina have? Or Pavano? Gimme a break. _If he had Karstens’ stomach he’d be a big winner._

Is that a stat? How many KS does Mussina have? Or Pavano? Gimme a break.

]]> By: randyhater http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/comment-page-1/#comment-15155 randyhater Thu, 29 Mar 2007 04:37:45 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/#comment-15155 Now Henn's a left-handed pitching Derek Jeter? He's had chances and he's looked scared sh*tless each time. He also went back to the minors and sulked in '05 when we were basically holding open tryouts at the major league level. He's not that young, either. If he had Karstens' stomach he'd be a big winner. Now Henn’s a left-handed pitching Derek Jeter?

He’s had chances and he’s looked scared sh*tless each time. He also went back to the minors and sulked in ’05 when we were basically holding open tryouts at the major league level. He’s not that young, either.

If he had Karstens’ stomach he’d be a big winner.

]]> By: David http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/comment-page-1/#comment-15150 David Thu, 29 Mar 2007 04:13:11 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/#comment-15150 Yeah. Henn craps his pants because he's young. Veterness is so much more important that talent. Too bad Tony Fernandez had to get hurt and we were forced to play that Jeter kid. Yeah. Henn craps his pants because he’s young. Veterness is so much more important that talent. Too bad Tony Fernandez had to get hurt and we were forced to play that Jeter kid.

]]> By: randyhater http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/comment-page-1/#comment-15146 randyhater Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:51:27 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/#comment-15146 Quantril was nothing special in the first half of '04 (look at his numbers against inherited runners) and blaming Joe for his flameout is unfair. What about all the other underperformers: Wohlers, Witasik, Karsay, Hammod, Osuna, Felix Rodriguez and (to a lesser degree) Farnsworth? Middle relievers are the most inconsistent players in the sport, which is why when you get one going good you should ride him to the devil. Not sure what Villone has left (he had great first halves in both '05 and '06) but I guarantee Sean Henn craps his pants any time he gets into a tight spot. Quantril was nothing special in the first half of ’04 (look at his numbers against inherited runners) and blaming Joe for his flameout is unfair.

What about all the other underperformers: Wohlers, Witasik, Karsay, Hammod, Osuna, Felix Rodriguez and (to a lesser degree) Farnsworth?

Middle relievers are the most inconsistent players in the sport, which is why when you get one going good you should ride him to the devil.

Not sure what Villone has left (he had great first halves in both ’05 and ’06) but I guarantee Sean Henn craps his pants any time he gets into a tight spot.

]]> By: Mike S. http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/comment-page-1/#comment-15127 Mike S. Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:16:38 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/#comment-15127 Asbury: No offense, but Villone had all winter to find a job with someone else. No one else signed him. That has to tell you something. Good post, Ryan. Asbury:

No offense, but Villone had all winter to find a job with someone else. No one else signed him. That has to tell you something.

Good post, Ryan.

]]> By: Ben K. http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/comment-page-1/#comment-15112 Ben K. Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:39:03 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/#comment-15112 Your point, R.B., is better served through pitches thrown. Quantrill, pitches thrown, by season 2001: 1243 2002: 1289 2003: 1084 2004: 1489 He hadn't thrown that many pitches since 1996. Your point, R.B., is better served through pitches thrown.

Quantrill, pitches thrown, by season

2001: 1243
2002: 1289
2003: 1084
2004: 1489

He hadn’t thrown that many pitches since 1996.

]]> By: R.B. http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/comment-page-1/#comment-15106 R.B. Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:31:11 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/#comment-15106 "And you can’t just blame Quantrill on Torre. He had 80+ appearances 3 straight seasons before the Yanks got him in ‘04. That goose was precooked." Batters faced by season: 2001: 341 2002: 330 2003: 291 2004 (with Yanks): 424 “And you can’t just blame Quantrill on Torre. He had 80+ appearances 3 straight seasons before the Yanks got him in ‘04. That goose was precooked.”

Batters faced by season:
2001: 341
2002: 330
2003: 291
2004 (with Yanks): 424

]]> By: Joe from Long Island http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/comment-page-1/#comment-15104 Joe from Long Island Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:26:53 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/#comment-15104 nyyfaninlaa... I agree with you. Also, Quantrill hurt his leg very early in the season, and wasn't quite the same after that. Injuries happen, they're part of sports, and I'm just looking for someone to excel for us. With any luck, it will be someone who I can feel good rooting for - like Andy Phillips, though it's not looking good for him, at least not here. nyyfaninlaa…
I agree with you. Also, Quantrill hurt his leg very early in the season, and wasn’t quite the same after that. Injuries happen, they’re part of sports, and I’m just looking for someone to excel for us. With any luck, it will be someone who I can feel good rooting for – like Andy Phillips, though it’s not looking good for him, at least not here.

]]> By: R.B. http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/comment-page-1/#comment-15103 R.B. Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:26:16 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/03/28/so-much-for-ron-villone/#comment-15103 "Chalk up another victim for Joe. Villone joins Tanyon Sturtze and Steve Karsay in the Torre Junkyard." Sturtze was an awful pitcher (with an ability to tease with occasional hot streaks) long before Torre had anything to do with him. Karsay had a history of arm trouble and pitched a whopping ONE THIRD OF AN INNING more for Torre in 2002 than he had for Charlie Manuel/Bobby Cox in 2001. If you want to make a case for Torre ruining a reliever, Quantrill is a much better example. “Chalk up another victim for Joe. Villone joins Tanyon Sturtze and Steve Karsay in the Torre Junkyard.”

Sturtze was an awful pitcher (with an ability to tease with occasional hot streaks) long before Torre had anything to do with him. Karsay had a history of arm trouble and pitched a whopping ONE THIRD OF AN INNING more for Torre in 2002 than he had for Charlie Manuel/Bobby Cox in 2001.

If you want to make a case for Torre ruining a reliever, Quantrill is a much better example.

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