Breaking news: Marty Miller fired
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The Yankees have fired “director of performance enhancement” Marty Miller.
A series of injuries, the latest coming last night when Phil Hughes tore his left hamstring, led to the ouster of Miller, who joined the team this season.
Several players had questioned Miller’s methods and his lack of experience in professional baseball.
More on this as it develops. Brian Cashman is expected to discuss the situation later this afternoon.
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Now that he’s gone, I bet we start hearing more players openly question the way he did things.
whose idea was it to hire him anyways?
wow, they really did deem him to be the problem. That seems a bit reactionary after they defended him pretty well after the last hamstring. Guess Steinbrenner wanted to fire somebody.
I don’t understand why they hired someone with no baseball experience. That’s unbelievable!
Works for me. At this point it’s too much to be coincidence. And whoever they bring is going to be scared of the wrath of The Boss and better do a damn fine job.
Not that I’m an expert or anything, but why was Miller hired in the first place? And why wasn’t he fired sooner, when players started to go down with injuries? From what I remember reading, the only injury not attributed to Miller’s “program” or whatever, was Pettitte’s back, which he hurt on his own lifting regimen. And wasn’t Miller previously the director of exercise for a retirement village or something? I’m sorry (actually, I’m not sorry at all), but it doesn’t take much of a brain to figure that prepping professional athletes is a little different from getting old people limber for their day of lounging by a pool or sipping fruity drinks and complaining about Social Security.
“Mike from CT (formerly of DC)
May 2nd, 2007 at 8:20 am
If the Yanks didn’t have bad luck they’d have no luck at all this year… It was painful to watch Phil wince in the dugout.
Also, I was talking to my trainer this morning, she said that using the giant rubber bands and doing lateral exercises is the way to prevent hamstring injuries. Didn’t the new Strength and Conditioning Coach get rid of those rubber bands for the Yankees? One or two injuries is a fluke, this many – and many the same – is a trend.”
Bring back the rubber bands!
good news here, now go get someone who actually knows what there doing.
about time. just too many pulls and tweaks.
what about yoga and that pilati stuff? i know it doesn’t sound manly at all but if it could stretch those muscles more and make them stronger why not do it. it could only help the team if every player is healthy.
For the high class organization that the Yanks are, for them to hire someone who has no baseball experience blows me away. A ball players conditioning varies so much from every other sport – Blows me away.
This latest injoury was the last – George prolly chocked on his Life cereal when he read what happened to Phil Franchise this morning.
It’s about damn time.
I know that a persons career needs to start somewhere, someplace, with no baseball experience, but why this guy? And what happened to the other guy, from last season? Did he leave, was his contract up, or what?
It’s obvious that this Marty Miller guy had no diea what he’s doing because there shouldn’t be 5 different hamstring issues in a matter of a month. 5 hamstring issues during a season is still alot, nonetheless the first month.
The guy probably had a theory that looked good on paper, with research to back it up, but no practical application. Do you think Cashman asked for references?
It’s about time.
to many of you who have been around baseball much longer than I have, can you name a team or teams in the past that had this much injuries so early in the season and still make it into the postseason?
I’m just interested in knowing what are our chances and whether we’re setting a precedent in terms of misfortune.
peace out Marty, you SON of a …………!!!!!!!
>> I’m sorry (actually, I’m not sorry at all), but it doesn’t take much of a brain to figure that prepping professional athletes is a little different from getting old people limber for their day of lounging by a pool or sipping fruity drinks and complaining about Social Security. >>
Line of the day.
about time
Doreen:
I hope for Cash’s sake he got references and checked them. Cash may have been trying to go “cutting edge.”
I’d love to know who recommended Miller to Cash. That’s one guy who really needs to put on his nomex fireproof suit in a hurry.
Michael Kay just said on his 1050 talk show that even Pettitte’s back injury was a result of the new strength people. Allegedly they told him to remove the weight-lifting belt he had always used when working his back, and he obliged.
i said this in the previous thread, but i’m becoming less and less impressed with brian cashman.
Blondlobo,
I’m pretty sure Miller had nothing to do with Karsten’s injury…. (:-().
Dear stayalive,
Please see NY Yankees, 2005.
Regards,
Chris
“I know that a persons career needs to start somewhere, someplace, with no baseball experience, but why this guy?”
Good point, isn’t that we have the Royals and Nationals? Let him cut his teeth with organizations that have no aspirations of winning.
Jeff:
“wow, they really did deem him to be the problem. That seems a bit reactionary after they defended him pretty well after the last hamstring.”
That’s why the very last thing you ever want to hear when you are under fire is that management supports you all the way – - still has confidence in you. That’s usually the equivalent of the bullet clicking into the chamber right before you are shot.
Bronx Bomber, if that’s true, Pettitte should have removed that belt, promptly slapped them in the face with it, replaced it, and returned to his squats.
I KNEW YOU NEED A BELT FOR SQUATS WHEN I WAS 14!!!!
Marty Miller = Theo Epstein’s cousin?? Good hire Cash.
Can’t they do anything to strengthen our pitchers bones and finger nails! Maybe calcium-cement mix supplement? Uh, I’m not getting this job am I?
Thank goodness.
If that line from Michael Kay’s show is correct….
Just think, if not for the injuries, the Yanks could be in first place now. Show’s how important a seemingly minor decision, that got almost no notice when it happened, could account for so much.
this year has been much worse than 2005 in that not only there are more injuries but also the injuries are not limited to pitchers
My wife is a nutritionist, and she says somebody better check their diets as well. Hey Pete, Who is the cook for the team? Do they have a nutritionist on staff?
Could be a lack of specific nutrients that results in the ligaments and muscles being too inflexible.
Same thing for Wang, get him some supplements for those finger nails.
How much money does this team have? Buy a dang traveling catering/diet and lifestyle company. Trash the candy machines before the team shows up to the park and get rid of that Gatorade stuff, it’s full of sugar. That stuff has 0 nutritional benefit.
in other positive news, felix will not be pitching against the yankees but jeff weaver will
My grammar on that last post was not so great, but you probably got the idea.
“….isn’t that we have the Royals and Nationals? Let him cut his teeth with organizations that have no aspirations of winning.”
Are you kidding? This guy would probably end up killing Nick Johnson if he got near the Gnats.
more like the total from 05 and 06 times 2.
Glory hallelujah.
“in other positive news, felix will not be pitching against the yankees but jeff weaver will”
*drool* …..
It had to be done.
agreed stayalive, but i’d just say combine 05 and 06. But you also have to realize, A-Rod and Jeter were in TERRIBLE slumps that year to start it off also. But we did have Tino’s brilliant month to keep us afloat (and Jorge if I remember), but overall, I can’t imagine our offense was as productive in that first month as it has been this month (too busy to look that up right now).
Either way, you’re right, more injuries now, but guys are coming back and we’re close enough to keep in it.
Joe from Long Island:
Ah yes.. those little things sometimes mean a lot.
For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the message was lost.
For want of the message the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.
Wolf, I hope launch that SOB’s “pitches” all over the field and streets of the Bronx, World Series losing mother humper.
so long marty up yours… you will not be missed. you screwed us this year and we will not miss you. can we please get a trainer who knows what theyre doing. peace out petie
doesnt solve the current problem but hopefully prevents further ones.
Good job. I cant believe this guy was hired to begin with. You can’t have a guy with no experience in charge of the health of a team with a 200 million dollar payroll.
Murphy –
Let’s hope we replaced the defective nails and shoes.
kasey i am too
>> I’m sorry (actually, I’m not sorry at all), but it doesn’t take much of a brain to figure that prepping professional athletes is a little different from getting old people limber for their day of lounging by a pool or sipping fruity drinks and complaining about Social Security. >>
I agree. You don’t bring in a guy that sells fish at Wal-Mart to look after thoroughbreds in the Kentucky Derby. This was a big mistake by Cashman.
LI Joe:
10-4.
Chris NY, I have a feeling we will. I still hate Weaver for the pathetic job he did for us, and I relish the opportunity to unleash our lineup on him. Think Samuel Jackson’s “Pulp Fiction” scripture delivery. Or for that matter, as Yngwie Malmsteen would say – “unleash the fookin’ fury!”
I think we have all been waiting for this, but I wonder if Big Stein got his firing impulse worked out by ordering this one….
weaver’s been terrible so far. absolutely terrible. the royals opened the game with five straight hits off him.
the way things are going for the yankees this year, i wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he shuts them down.
I agree with the firing, but how does this have anything to do with Hughes? He was in the minors, right? He didn’t have any contact with this guy, right?
He may have deserved to be fired, but he’s just a total scapegoat for the Hughes injury.
About bloody time, I say. Considering the performance lost with all these injuries, it might well put NY out of the playoffs. Better that the team did this quick.
Yes, it’s stupid to hire a guy who never worked in baseball, but anyone who knows the body, and how to work specific muscles, should be able to do this job.
I think the injuries are more about bad luck. Wang hurt his hammy jogging. What could the trainer have done differently to prevent this? Mussina and Pettitte are old. How did taking off his workout belt cause Pettitte to have back spasms? Most people do not wear a belt when they squat — they wear them on deadlifts and things that put a lot of strain on the lower back (which is why you see movers and people like that wearing them).
Hughes’ injury had nothing to do with any training routine, and he didn’t train with this guy anyway.
Maybe it’s for the best to can him, but blaming him for these injuries is kind of moronic.
How could Cashman possibly have thought hiring a guy with no baseball experience was a good idea in the first place?
you never know jon. who’s to say how long you work with someone before having a negative effect? he had a week, maybe just changing his stretching routine was enough, maybe he had nothing to do with it and they just took this time to say see-ya because no-one was happy with him anyway.
Jon-
Hughes spent almost all of spring training with the major league team in Tampa, which is when the complaints about the new trainer started coming up. Spring training should have been the time the players got into playing shape and got their bodies ready for a long grueling season
“I still hate Weaver for the pathetic job he did for us, and I relish the opportunity to unleash our lineup on him. Think Samuel Jackson’s “Pulp Fictionâ€? scripture delivery. Or for that matter, as Yngwie Malmsteen would say – ‘unleash the fookin’ fury’!”
LOL
They better fire his assistant too. I remember these two yokels bragging on TV during spring training about their new program.
“deadlifts and things that put a lot of strain on the lower back”
Stormy, no offense, but have you ever done squats? You don’t think there’s any strain on the lower back or risk of injury without good support?
Squats are a good way to get slipped disks. If nothing else, the belt helps you keep better form. I don’t see too many people squatting without a belt, so I don’t know about “most people” not using them.
I’m not sure what part Miller had in the players’ training regimen, but stretching is CRITICAL whenever you are doing physical activities, whether it’s jogging or lifting or pitching. It sounds like his stretching regimen was different from what most players were used to. Many people do not realize that stretching is a form of exercise (Yoga) and is crucial for a balanced workout program.
very good point, serge.
A lot of the strength training routine took place in Spring training. Hughes was with the major league team for much of Spring training, so I assume he would have trained with the Yankees strength trainers.
Even if his injury is not directly tied to Miller, he almost certainly took part in some of the new conditioning regimen in Spring Training.
All of these coincidences seem like a pattern to me, and if some of the players were unhappy with this new regimen, get rid of it.
I’m not convinced this guy was responsible for Hughes’ injury, but that is almost beside the point. There have been too many similar injuries in too short a time, and coincidentally there has been a change in the conditioning program. Even if Hughes’ did not participate in this program, the story would not go away unless there was some action. The appropriate action is to get rid of the person responsible for the conditioning program.
I also don’t think that it’s unreasonable to conclude that someone had to pay for the poor start, and since so far it’s not Cashman or Torre or Guidry, mainly because of the injuries, you fire the person who you can reasonably assume contributed to the injuries. Convenient, a guy with no ties to the Yankees so it’s clean, and quick.
I basically wrote the same thing as Serge without reading that post first. Sorry.
Whose idea was it to hire Miller? What kind of credentials did this bozo have?
True, I can’t blame him for Karstens (now that’s bad luck) or Wang’s splitting nail, or Hughes…maybe…but he did some pretty serious damage in his short time with the Yankees.
Bring back the rubber bands!
but I do agree, Stormy, that it shouldn’t take 20 years of baseball experience to know the body well enough to have a good program. sounds like this guy just thought he was too cool for traditional programs that have worked for a million years and tried to get too fancy or something. I don’t have a clue what his program was, but if it was so different that guys didn’t like it, must have been unorthodoxed, these guys (the players) have been working out and training their whole lives.
Yogi doesn’t look like he has excercised for the Yankees for a long time…..what???!!!! …..Yogi? You mean Yoga? Nevermind.
Chris, no offense, but I’ve been working out since I’m sixteen years old, and if you do squats properly, they don’t strain your lower back. They only do if you lean forward, causing your lower back to handle the weight. If you keep your back straight, that doesn’t happen. You don’t need a belt for squatting — squats don’t work out or strain your back. Deadlifts, stiff-legged and normal, DO. You can wear a belt during squats if you want to, but it’s not needed. And not wearing one is not going to give you back spasms unless you’re in the incorrect form, which means you’d get those back spasms if you wore the belt or not.
LOL at people wondering if Cashman got references for Marty.
Cashman is a business man for christs sake, running a multi billion dollar team. Give the man some more credit. Obviously, the methods employed by Marty were just terrible. There had to be something good Cashman saw in him initially, though.
Wang didn’t hurt his hamstring jogging. He hurt his hamstring doing sprints. Sprints! What MLB team has their pitchers doing sprints?
His entire program has been under fire since he initiated it with the team.
So, if the players don’t like the program, and the injuries are piling up. Especially the type of injuries that are taking place, how is he NOT fired?
His title was “Director of PERFORMANCE ENHANCEMENT”.
Call me crazy but, it sure doesn’t seem to me there is any “performance enhancement” going on here.
He tried a cutting edge program and it has awful results. That pretty much sealed his fate.
I bet Pavano hires Miller as his personal trainer. He must be kicking himself he hadn’t thought of the hamstring excuse sooner.
Stormy,
I get what you’re saying, but earlier you basically said “anyone who knows about muscle groups/training can do this job”, which is sort of absurd.
I’ve been lifting weights and training for years now, and I know a lot about muscles, yet I would not be able to create a regiment for a ballclub.
You need to know about muscles, physics, gravity, and so on and so forth. You need to know that a leg injury can be caused by a weak back, or a weak arm, and so on and so forth.
You can’t throw Hulk Hogan in there and ask him to help the team because he knows about the body and muscular training. And yes, Wang hurt his hamstring jogging, but don’t you think a person with a good stretching program would’ve made sure this didn’t happen?
There’s no such thing as bad luck, there’s just incompetent people.
Stormy, so have I and the point is you can’t have perfect form on every rep, the belt may be more required on other exercises, but it still helps keep your form doing squats. Yes it can be avoided with proper form, but you can’t tell me there’s no strain *at all* on your lower back. Can you blame the spasms on not using the belt, maybe not, but telling someone to take off a belt that he’s used to using for that exercise is messing with his form, whether you think it is necessary or not.
No matter how you slice it, hiring a so-called strength and conditioning coach with absolutely no background in professional sports is indefensible, period. It doesn’t matter who gave or didn’t give Cashman advice on hiring this clown…He should have known better. Just like he should have known better than to give Pavano or Farnsworth multi-year deals. Oh, and the famous signing of Jaret Wright…of which the only saving grace was the built-in “out” clause for his bum shoulder. (Did anyone else notice that Baltimore had to put Wright on the DL after only three starts this year!) The number of questionable decisions made by Brian Cashman is starting to pile up…
Hallelujah –
Can only speak for myself, but my tongue was set firmly in cheek when I asked if Cashman got references. The problem with blogs, e-mail, written communication of any kind, is you can’t judge tone or intent.
An addendum to my last post…I don’t think the Hughes injury had to do with poor training. By Phil’s own admission, he overstepped and overextended trying to get more break on his curveball. Even a hamstring in good shape could be damaged by stretching it beyond its normal physical limitations.
It’s not absurd, Holla Back. Any competent trainer should be able to set a routine for a baseball team. He would need to do a little research into current routines, see what others do and have done, what has been successful, and then tweak it in ways he thinks makes sense. I’m not saying he should come in and totally alter everything that has been done in baseball for a hundred years — I don’t know if he did that or not — but we’re not talking about track and field people here. They’re baseball players — they run, they stretch, they take groundballs. I just can’t imagine anything he told them to do could cause a rash of injuries. I really think Wang and Moose’s hammies, and Pettitte back, had a lot more to do with the individuals. He certainly didn’t cause Pavano’s elbow problem, and Hughes’ injury was simply a freaky misstep.
Last year Robbie Cano pulled his hammy in the second game of a day-night doubleheader. Did he pull that hammy because he wasn’t in shape, or was it because it was a cold night, he was probably a little tight, and his hammy was strained running out a double?
I’m fine with firing this guy — for no other reason than that he’s got bad mojo — but I think we’re kidding ourselves when we say he’s the sole reason these injuries came about.
Who was the trainer that year Mel Hall tore his hammy rounding third base for the Yanks? Maybe it was Marty Miller’s dad! HA!!!
Unless, you’re powerlifting, it’s better to perform squats without a belt. You may have to substantially drop the weight and build back up, but it should be your core enforcing your form, not a belt.
Finally.
do not feel too bad as this guy will go back to being Pavano’s personal trainer…or maybe dealing HGH out of the Golds Gym in Hoboken
I’ve been a Cashman supporter for a long time but this is just another decision that is just plain stupid with the hiring of Miller in the first place.
Where’s the Gene Michael’s and Bob Watson’s when you need them? Get Gene back please, I know he’s in the organization still.
Gee there’s a shocker.
Think they’ll rehire the guys they had last your who they blamed the loss against the Tigers on?
hey murphydog -
isn’t it fun to have had this conversation six weeks ago. every now and then ,it’s nice to get something right.
here’s my contributtion to giving people a headache: google Adverse neural tension: a factor in repetitive hamstring strain?
it turns out hamstring strains are pretty complicated. in 50% of them, so i’ve read, there’s a problem with the nerve not slipping smoothly in it’s sheath. adverse neural tension it’s called . i think. i wouldn’t want to take a test on it.
the yankees need to hire someone who knows all about this stuff with a track record in baseball.
Marty Miller will land on his feet (though he’ll probably tear a hamstring when he does). He’ll probably get hired as Carla’s personal trainer.
Peter,
are u posting the Giambi Q/A today
The Yankees have fired “director of performance enhancement� Marty Miller.
Isn’t he the one who hands out the greenies???
One hammy injury is okay. Two is marginal. 3 is suspect. 4 is unforgivable.
from the ny post”Miller’s assistant, Dana Cavalea, will take over for now, but Cashman is expected to continue to monitor the situation to see if another hire must be made.”
you have got to be kidding me. the assistant to the guy who doesn’t know anything is now in charge.
what the hell!!! cashman , you are pushing it.
i’m trying to get behind you, but you aren’t making it easy.
what an incredibly stupid move.
clean house and start over.
cavalea barely has a masters degree. nice guy ,but fitness center written all over him.
I get the feeling that Marty was someone Cash knew personally. Could be way off. But Cash IS the one making the decisions now.
PETE: will you get the story on Marty’s hiring? Other than cronyism, it doesn’t make sense why they’d bring in someone who so little experience in getting basball players ready to play. Strange…
Rumor has it, Marty was hired as a tie in to a marketing relationship between the Yankees and some 24/7 fitness or something like that. It wasn’t a baseball decision, it was forced on the Yankees by Marketing. I assume Cashman could have nixed it, 20/20 hindsight he would.
You’re thinking like me, Stef. I want to know why this guy was hired, and who signed off on it. Reeks of cronyism to me.
The N.Y. Daily News had an article about this a few weeks ago ….
Here’s the URL:
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....eck-3.html
I’m picturing a couple of goofballs walking around pulling tshirts and “supplements” out of duffel bags and passing them out as they work their way through the clubhouse.
All right, enough of this dribble…
Where’s the lineups? I’m ready for some baseball. And a Yankee win, of course.
Who knows, maybe Andy will pitch a no-no.
GG -
good link. i feel better about dana cavalea knowing he was the old conditioning coach’s assistant. that clears that up. but still cavalea doesn’t know squat about pitchers and throwing. all you have to do is read his website to see this:
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....eck-3.html
the above wesite is dana cavalea’s. i’d take a quick look because if he stays on the job it won’t be there long. he’s already ditched the blog that went with the website.
whoops. here’s the link i meant for dan cavales’s site:
http://www.mlstrength.com/articles.php
I’m not a professional athlete, nor do I know anything about exercise other than I don’t do enough of it. However, I do know that when one is new on the job in a position of responsibility, makes a lot of changes, and doesn’t get the necessary stakeholders (in this case the players themselves) to buy into it, you don’t have a good situation. Add in unexpected difficulties that had not been a factor before, and the organization suffering failures that can be attributed to these new problems, and you have a recipe where the new guy has very little job security. That is what’s happened here.
Rightly or wrongly, the organization felt it was time to make a change. And how many times have we heard that line in our lives?
Enough of this. Let’s watch a baseball game tonight.
Hey guys, I’d be really surprised if there’s a game tonight. I’m thinking at least a 3 hour rain delay. The whole system has been moving very slowly all day.
http://www.intellicast.com/Ica.....odnav=none
The Weather.com says chance of T-storms between 7-9 PM.
Let’s play baseball.
In fact, Arlington is under a tornado warning right now.
Im stunned that the Yankees hired a conditioning coach that had no baseball experience – and de-emphasized running, etc. as a conditioning exercise. That’s totally screwed up. In addition to Miller, they should also fire whoever hired him.
A rainout doesn’t help us, except it does help Tyler Clippard who could start on Monday. Otherwise I think it will be Desalvo on Sunday.
WTF??? This guy had no prior experience? This should be the only the first in a series of firings. I want to know who HIRED this new fitness guy, because *that* person should be fired too.
I’m not just writing this out of anger. This is a serious managerial screw-up that speaks volumes about how this organization is being run. It needs to be fully sorted out.
I am at work what is the status of the game starting?
thanks
It is beginning. Again. I’m wondering how long it will be until Joe Torre follows the rest of the Yankees managers Steinbrenner has fired (in Joe’s case it will probably be termed retirement, but…).
“Matt
good news here, now go get someone who actually knows what there doing.”
Yeah, maybe even someone who knows how to spell “they’re.”
Ok, I’ll concede on the belt for squats… just what I was always told I guess. As good of an exercise as squatting is, I hate squats and haven’t done them the last couple years.
But either way, if the guy was used to it that way, maybe they just left out the part about dropping the weights like enoch said…..
GO BOSOX!
Yankees are wikkid lame! Go Sox!
Squats without a belt will build more muscle control. You’ll use less weight but you’ll be better for it. It’s not the amount of the weight you lift but the form you use when doing the squat that builds/grows muscle.
Belts are for kittens.
*&#@*!! the Sox. It is all the fault of George W. Bush.
Go Yankees!
To all the uneducated Yankee fans, who know nothing about human anatomy or performance, leave the trainers alone. This is not like remodeling your bathroom. Marty and Dana have been there for only two months. These guys have been out of shape for 20 years. No significant improvement is going to be made in two months. If you understand anything about science and bio-mechanics, it takes time to integrate a new system, and most of the players weren’t even listening to these guys. What professional sports team lets the players train when and how they want? What a shock in New York, the new guys take the fall.
The Brewers in MLB and the Suns in the NBA both implement the same program from the National Academy of Sports Medicine that Miller was trying to use. Last time I checked they both are in first place, with less injuries than the Yankees. All of the players on the DL did not workout with Miller. Matsui was quoted saying that he did not use Miller, and that he did not do enough conditioning in the off season. Pavano has been hurt his whole career. You can’t fix a head case. He is medically fine. Hockey players get a puck in the face and come back in five minutes, Yankees get a ingrown toenail and are out three weeks. Get tougher your a professional athlete. Only 30% of the team actually did 100% of the work. Your going to get great results with those numbers.
Thanks Paul for some of the only intelligent words spoken so far. Miller was implementing a proven system. The only problem that existed is that the Yankees paid a ton of money for his expertise and then refused to insist that any player actually follow the program. Not “cronyism” (is that even a word?) The Yankees went to NASM looking for a trainer and that’s where Miller comes in. Have any of you even researched this guy before commenting on how unqualified he is? His resume includes baseball, among other things, such as a long history of teaching other trainers. Sounds to me like he does know his stuff. But it doesn’t matter what he knows if nobody is made to listen. Steinbrenner needed his pound of flesh and Miller was the easiest place to get it. Read this article…it states the case pretty well.
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo....._walk.html
How did Miller even get an interview from the New York Yankees. Human Performance and conditioning is so complicated because every person is different and needs to workout differently. My company, Biomechanical Technologies, is on the forefront of Human Performance. We cannot understand how a team spending >$180M on their players can have so many players injured from stupid issues.
How does Biomechanical Technologies get an interview for the open Director of Performance Enhancement position?
http://www.biomechtech.com
Sounds like Paul must be a relative or fellow gym rat backing up his man. paul does make one very intelligent comment “These guys have been out of shape for 20 years”. I’m sure A-Rod and Jeeter would’nt agree. I looked but I can’t find the name Paul Raymond anywhere in the annuls of professional sports history.
You just proved your knowledge and educational level in your last comment. News flash, Just because you look in shape doesn’t mean your in shape. Gym Rats like yourself wouldn’t know your rotator cuff from your femur. Science and research take the place of bodybuilders and cool exercises that you guys are used to. It is hard to teach old dogs new tricks, by looking at the past injuries the Yankees have had, the past is not working. When your trainer looks like the Pillsbury dough boy, how can you take what he says seriously. They needed a change, and cashman went with the company that was improving more teams in all sports than anyone else. The National Academy of Sports Medicine, who are they, again I reference your education. The NBA mandates all trainers are NASM certified. Biomechanical Technologies can get an interview when your resume looks like Millers did. Look up the National Academy of Sports Medicine, the worldwide leaders in fitness professionals. They are in the trainers for others teams like the Brewers in MLB and the Suns in the NBA, which in case you don’t know are both in first place at the moment. If you guys like anything can be done in two months to improve movement, again you are showing your intelligence and knowledge of the industry. Everyone is an expert. Stick to your profession.
Hello Paul,
Thank you, The NASM is definitly not the world leader in fitness professionals. ASCM and NSCA are far more recognized than NASM. If I am not mis-taken the NASM test is a take home test; you can have anyone take the test for you or take as long as you want to complete it, well within their 3 month time frame. How is that being the worldwide leader?
The problem is that no one understands everyone just thinks lifting is lifting and if you played a sport you most know how to train for it. The team at Biomechanical Technologies are all certified strength and conditioning trainers under NSCA and/or ASCM plus we are all international level athletes and have highly advanced degrees in medicine and/or sports medicine.
Can any one show me Millers resume as I have not been able to find it?
Mike,
For having highly advanced degrees, your ignorance really shows in your last post. You ARE mistaken, the NASM Certification is not a take home test. Their Certification is NCCA accredited just like the ACSM and the NSCA. You probably don’t know what that means though.
Also, the ACSM must think the NASM is pretty reputable since they just held a joint educational Summit in Dallas a couple of months ago, which has never happened in the history of the health and fitness/sports medicine industry; but you probably didn’t know that either.
For being so high tech at Biomechanical Technologies you sure don’t know much about the goings on in the industry.
I’ve heard Mr. Miller present at numerous conferences, and he knows his stuff- hands down. It’s funny how you mention all your advanced degrees, touting your education over a guy like Miller’s cause I’m sure you didn’t know that in addition to holding a MS in Exercise Science/Performance Enhancement, he is also an ATC as well as a CSCS through your beloved organization the NSCA.
Marty Miller was more than qualified to take on this role with the Yankees. It doesn’t matter how good your assessment process and individualized programs are if none of the overpaid primadonna athletes follow it and management won’t support it by mandating their multi-million dollar investments actually put some work in!
Hello David,
Excellent points, I am sure that he is extremely qualified. And so is every trainer out there, yet so many athletes are getting hurt by such stupid injuries. It is not only the trainers job to provide them with the best program but also to educate and motivate them to use the program.
Mike
You can have all the knowledge in the world, but it is all about application. As an ATC and CSCS, I am very familiar with the active stretching ideas, and they are great on paper. They are very advantageous for performance. HOWEVER, what is good for performance is not always good for injury prevention. His application is flawed if so many athletes are coming up with the same injuries. Our football team at my college recently instituted active stretching this offseason (against my advice), and have eliminated several machines from their weight room (including the quad and hamstring machines). We have had seven hamstring/groin strains in the past 2 months. But hey, they have the research to prove that this is the wave of the future. I wonder who they got their research from?
NASM is very reputable and has been a leader in the industry. If you look up there stats, the pass/fail ratio is quite amazing. They certainly don’t appear to hand out certifications to just anyone. It is also associated with Reebok. Reebok isn’t going to just put their name on any old training program, right? Then I checked multiple, reputable fitness clubs across the country and they all prefer NASM certified candidates (among some others) to become employees. These clubs include 24-Hour Fitness, Lifetime Fitness and Golds Gym. A 24-Hour Fitness rep told me over the phone that NASM was “the most reputable”. (Perhaps just an opinion based on personal experiences, I’m not sure.)
The National Academy of Sports Medicine should not however, be held accountable for every single student with a certification through their well studied scientific research program. It’s not fair to hold every educational institution accountable for their alumni.
Think about it. You don’t know how Miller may have tweaked things. You don’t know that the athletes followed his advice. He’s not a baby sister. He can’t spoon feed them. I’m not saying he was doing his job either. I just think you must take everything into consideration and have full knowledge, (which I don’t think we can because we weren’t all there, every day) before deciding whether an individual OR educational organization is to blame for this down fall.