Exclusive photo: Marty being fired
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on May 03, 2007 
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To quote Jim Rome: leave the funny to a guy who knows what he’s doing.
I’m surprised you’re even up this early, Peter. I thought for sure you’d celebrate the night away when you heard Pavano will probably miss the rest of the year and that his career is potentially over. Just think of all the “witty” ways in which you can insult him about being injury prone. I’m sure the possibilities are endless.
Hah, I like it Pete.
“Sorry folks, Phil Hughes will be shut down for 8 weeks due to repair on his hamstring. Come back later, hayuck!
Sorrrrrryyyyy!”
Cashman clearly had enough.
how’s the sky lookin’ today, pete? weather.com is reporting showers all day long thru 7pm.
I wanna go to Wally World! Dewey, I’m here in downtown Dallas and it hasn’t rained at all. In fact it was sunny this morning when I was out on the road! Great weather for baseball.
All of the rain is south and east of Dallas. Looks like smooth sailing at least for game 1.
That’s not funny…..at all. Ugh.
Now Stormy, the insults of The American Idle are the only thing that stop me from crying.
I still don’t understand why Miller got the job in the first place. Conditioning professional athletes worth $200 million (not counting the endorsement money guys like Jeter and A-Rod get) is a lot different than being the trainer or whatever for a country club in Florida. Seriously, what was Cashman thinking?
How do the players feel about the interim guy?
That’s funny, Peter. When I read that he worked at the “BallenIsles Country Club in the retirement community of Palm Beach Gardens, Florida,” I envisioned Izzy Mandlebaum from Seinfeld.
Pete, I know you don’t like profanity on your blog, but I’m itching to quote Clark Griswold’s “You’ll be whistling Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah out of your —” speech. But I can’t, so I’ll leave you with this.
“That was a crummy Wyatt Earp, Dad. He was wearing jogging shoes!”
“They used to, Rusty.”
Now I gotta go home and watch both Caddyshack AND Vacation.
Stormy, quoting Jim Rome regarding sports is like quoting George W. Bush about being a statesman.
I hear Mike Wood is getting his first start this year because Millwood has some issues. Not sure if that’s the first or 2nd game. I’d really like to see a sweep today, make it 4 out of 5 wins and back to 12-14
Wood is pitching game 1, and Tejada staying with game 2.
Did the Rangers hire Marty Miller, because Millwood is out today due to an injured hamstring.
Well, if Jim Rome said it than we should all listen… NOT
leave the funny imagery to nomaas, your attempt leaves douche chills.
If Pavano needs Tommy John Surgery, then it would support his contention he is injured, correct?
It may just be that the guy simply broke down, and is not “afraid” or, “doesn’t want to” pitch.
He may not be the greatest teammate in the world and he is may go down as the biggest free agent bust in baseball history.
However, until we hear what Dr. Andrews has to say, seems to me we are flying blind on this one.
Geez, lighten up, haters. To paraphrase Bob Dylan, “Don’t criticize what you can’t understand.”
Personally Pete, I love the 80′s movies references, having grown up during the decade. To thank you, I leave you with this quote to show my appreciation – “Lee Harvey, you are a madman. When you stole that cow, and your friend tried to make it with the cow? I want to party with you, cowboy.”
stormy get a life
A lot of anger going on in this comment section, what is that about?
Good one, Peter.
Didn’t Octavio Dotel basically opt to get Tommy John surgery against his doctor’s feelings? I seem to remember that.
haha thats great. even says “repair” on the marty sign.
How’d that ever work out for Dotel.
….a far fry from the guy who pitched the 8th in that combined no-no by the ‘stros a couple years ago.
Poor Octavio.
Pete,
I found that Wally World Lampoon picture very funny.
However, it does remind me of a saying we have in Spanish, namely “No hagas leña del arbol caÃdo”.
This translates (literally) as “Don’t make wood out of the fallen tree” or (the closest saying I know in English): Don’t kick a man while he’s down.
Miller may or may not have been at fault for what happened with some of the Yankee pitchers, but arguably, we’ll never really know….
Pavano should be a guest star on House.
Sorry, but that should be “…, but arguably, he’s gone, so forget about him”.
i have never believed cashman had all the answers. why would a gm who never played the game have all the answers? he needs good baseball people around him. he’s made some good decisions and obviously some bad ones. having 100% control and then hiring marty miller exposed cashman.
another really bad decision was firing neil allen who taught wang the grip on his sinker that overnight made wang a star. neil was a tampa guy so out he went. how many young pitchers don’t get taught a new pitch now that allen is gone? talk about throwing out the baby with the bathwater. cashman went too far in getting rid of tampa people he didn’t think were loyal to him. the best managments have a balance of old school and new school. it’s not a matter of one or the other.
hopefully the marty miller fiasco has caused cashman to reassess his thinking about getting other people involved in decision making.
I find this very unfunny.. there is nothing to prove that Marty Miller was THE reason for all the hammy injuries..
and he gets fired.. and then u make fun of it.. i cannot beleive someone losing their job is so funny..
Now I paraphrase here:
Now, I owe it to myself to tell you, Mr. Cashman, that if you are thinking of taking this team to the World Series, this is your trainer. Marty Miller Director of Performance Enhancement. You think you hate him now, but wait till he trains you.
Nathan, had we heard one positive comment from a player about him? Even if he wasn’t the sole reason for the injuries, he wasn’t good enough.
Love the comment about Pavano being a guest star on house, that would make a highly entertaining and riveting episode! Do you think House could turn him around?
Rob C,
not even Jesus could resurrect Pavano’s career.
I really like this post.
Mabye Greg Anderson is Available.
After all, he did wonders for Mr Potato Head in SF.
Also, I’m sure Giambi wouldn’t mind a little new special sauce!
Nice job CGramazio. I was actually looking for a trainer in an Antarctic blue.
I don’t really feel bad that this guy got fired. He was in the first year of a three-year contract and I believe the Yankees have to honor that or buy out the contract. So, basically, this guy can sit on his butt for the next 2 years collecting his salary…which does not engender any sympathy from yours truly. Kick, kick!
If you cant get a laugh out of this post from Pete, you have NO sense of humor.
We’re ten hours from the fucking fun park and you want to bail out. Well I’ll tell you something. This is no longer a vacation. It’s a quest. It’s a quest for fun. I’m gonna have fun and you’re gonna have fun. We’re all gonna have so much fucking fun we’ll need plastic surgeory to remove our godamn smiles. You’ll be whistling ‘Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah’ out of you’re assholes! I gotta be crazy! I’m on a pilgrimage to see a moose. Praise Marty Moose! Holy Shit!
DH today. Phelps may actually get a chance to play.
Quoting Jim Rome is never a wise thing to do now.
Nice Matt, I know what must have happened though. He didn’t come in. Now I can get you the that trainer in Antarctic Blue; the only problem is that it may take six weeks.
Heck, Jesus wouldn’t see the point of returning Pavano to the level of mediocrity he established for himself.
Strange, I don’t hear any Red Sox fans talking about hiring Miller, the way they did about Mr. Torre last week.
Park’s closed. The moose out front should have told ya.
“i have never believed cashman had all the answers. why would a gm who never played the game have all the answers?”
i don’t disagree with your overall point in your post, but Cashman played college baseball. he wasn’t MLB material, but that is further than 99% of the rest of the population make it in the game. 4 years of Div III baseball, played 2B, hit .348 his junior year.
Overall I believe Cashman is a good GM. Yes he has made some bad moves but it is not that simple. Over the years many people have had George’s ears and unti lthis offseason they have not really had a long term plan. They do know.
they got rid of jaret wright, sheff, and Rj and brought in about 8 or 9 young arms. Yes Sanchez is hurt but they still have replenished the minors. They did not trade Hughes who looks great.. There minors are looking better then it has for years, there payroll has actually gone down slightly the last 2 years and they have some homegrown talent playing for the big club and on the way.
the only albatross contracts are; pavano, farnsworth(amount not that huge), Giambi next year is last year, and that is it.
Jeremy, that would be the best House episode yet… think Cashman would be bedside holding his hand? Or telling House to pull the plug….
Here’s a question. With all Pavano’s injuries, how exactly do insurance policies come into play, if at all? Can we do anything like the Astros wanted to do with Bagwell and just say, “look, this guy has been injured for 3 years, we’re filing an insurance claim?” I’m assuming not, since he’s been on and off, but is there any recorse?
No question about it, the Miller debacle has changed my view of Cashman. This is not the sort of issue that I typically think of when I consider what makes a good or bad GM – 99.9% of my attention is on dealing, acquiring, and calling up players. But this has opened my eyes to a whole new area of what it means to be a GM and no matter how you spin the facts on this one, Cashman looks awful. I’m waiting for the article that explains that Miller was more than just a glorified fitness club manager, but I don’t think I’ll ever see it.
The Yankees still have what it takes to make it to the playoffs. But with ARod’s unbelievable start set against all the injuries, it’s impossible not to think about what might have been.
randy 1:
It’s a tough call sometimes who to keep and who to toss, but once loyalty becomes questioned there’s no getting it back.
I’ve been an executive at different times in my career, and when I came in to take responsibility for operations, there was always a sifting process in evaluating the prior regime’s staff. In some cases I knew some of the hold over employees from my own experience. As to others I had to rely on “scouting reports” prepared by trusted subordinates.
For all we know Allen screwed or undermined Cashman on more than a couple of occasions before Cash ascended to his current perch. If so, it’s shame on Allen, because once you dabble in palace intrigue, you’re fair game.
Guys, lighten up. The marty moose thing was a funny reference to a great, classic comedy. I doubt Pete expected you all to tell him to start doing stand-up, but it was humorous.
As far as Cashman/Miller goes… No-one can tie the injuries directly to him and they may or may not have anything to do with his methods. The reality is, he was doing different stuff, guys weren’t comfortable with it. That doesn’t mean his techniques didn’t work, how the hell do we know? I was as guilty of anyone of saying yesterday, “later jacka$$,” but we really don’t know whether or not he was responsible. The reality is guys didn’t like his routine, maybe because he wasn’t there early enough for them to get comfortable as was said, maybe he was just a moron, who knows. But if they’re not comfortable, he’s got to go regardless.
Point being, I wouldn’t *necessarily* abandon all faith in Cashman based on this. We have had plenty of injuries over the last few years BEFORE Marty the Moose came on-board.
Okay regarding the picture, which one is Cashman and which one is Miller?
Stormy: I set up an appointment for you with Dr. James Andrews. He’s going to surgically remove the giant stick you have up your butt.
If the moose was Cashman, he’d be holding his hamstring, not getting clocked in the nose.
murphydog- before i get to cashman and loyalty, i want to say sometimes a meeting of the minds sees things ahead of time and we got the conditioning thing right early on. you know what i’m talking about.
if you read stottlemyre’s new book he talks about neil allen and how billy connors wanted neil to rereport back to connors on stottlemyre. neil wouldn’t do it. stottlemyre came to respect him over this. neil is a straight up guy. he’s close friends with guidry. allen’s problem was that tampa was groomimg him to be major league pitching coach and cashman simply didn’t want him there. a good executive has to be able to handle creative differences in an organization. letting a resource like allen is just crazy . wang was changed overnight. you guys are giving cashman way too much credit and benefit of the doubt . essentially kerrigan replaced allen and kerrigan is a toxic as it gets. he has a bad reputation everywhere he’s been. if anyone is involved in palace intrigue it’s kerrigan. he’a the ultimate backstabber everywhere he’s been. you watch how it plays out with him . cashman put him out there for a reason.his hiring is as bad as the marty miller one because he doesn’t fit it in except as a snitch for cashman.
that said cashman has his skills. he’s smart. he just has to know his limitations and delegate when he needs to.
The Rajah of Rehab may be experiencing “pain in the forearm” or “tightness in the forearm” caused by ulnar nerve problems. If that’s the case, with his history of rehabilitation and tolerance for pain, he’ll be gone for the season.
The only thing I don’t like about this blog are the debates over whether Peter’s jokes are funny!
Moose shoulda told ya out front.