We did keep them… until they proved that they weren’t going to be effective in 2006.

I’m officially off the train.
let’s trade him for a bag of peanuts and a warm beer.
that would be more enjoyable at this point.

goodness.
we have a pitcher playing with a cracked fingernail.
this guy has pitched a handful of times in two years.
of course he’s going to go through some discomfort.
I think they should try and get back some of this contract… using the non-disclosure of the accident, and other issues, as examples of his unwillingness to perform.

I can’t believe I went to bat for this guy.
talk about your disappointment.

– someone who now realizes that the “NO” is most emphasized in “Pavano”

You don’t think they are trying to get Clemens? They can only do so much. BTW, Roger Clemens is no longer a 7 inning pitcher. If folks want him for that reason, they will be sadly disappointed when he can’t deliver those innings on a consistent basis anymore.

Roger Clemens is not going to up his timetable for anybody. He knows his own body, knows how long its going to take to get ready to pitch and, IMO, also knows he only has about 3 good months of pitching in him per season, at this point of his career.

He isn’t the “cure all” for what ails the team. The 25 guys on the roster simply have to find a way to win games until (or if) reinforcements arrive.

In the grand scheme of things, if you told Torre he would have a 2 run lead in the 7th, at Fenway in a Chase Wright vs Dice-K matchup, he would have gladly taken it.

The “how” it happened is immaterial to me.

With young pitchers, you have to exhibit patience. Unfortunately, the Yankees (and many of their fans) seem to want young guys to be great early.

Absent that, they are “busts”. I don’t blame them since, it seems the owner and manager feel the same way.

However, if you are going to retool this team, and this team needs to be retooled, and think you can do it buying free agent pitching, the name, “Carl Pavano” should be the first thing you think about when pursuing such a dangerous strategy.

The present injury situation is the perfect time for the Yankees to re-examine how they can go forward right now.

This organization has to develop its own pitching. That means the manager, the owner and the fans, are going to have to be a little patient with them. It means sticking with starters a little longer, even if they are struggling.

The one big complaint I have about the Yankees development of pitching is they baby the starters way too much. These guys never learn how to get out of jams and how to pitch. They are just consumed with pitch count.

Its the wrong way to develop pitchers and the fact that Hughes is only the second pitcher in the last 12 years to even look like he can help the parent club should make the Yankees re-examine how they develop young pitching.

JMO but, I have seen enough of Tyler Clippard to believe he could be an adequate #4 or #5 guy in this rotation. Give him 3 starts and see where he is at after those 3 starts.

Let’s just say he can get the job done in that role. They would then have Hughes, Wang and Clippard. Three homegrown pitchers, between the ages of 20-27, to build a staff around.

That’s how you do it. With the Yankees resources, they can fill in the other two roles with veterans.

They just have to be more patient with the young guys. Use this time to change the way you do business. That should be the Yankees mantra right now.