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		<title>By: Elias Sports Bureau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elias Sports Bureau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 04:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s Lackawanna COUNTY Stadium (not Country) and it&#039;s been renamed to PNC Field from this season forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Lackawanna COUNTY Stadium (not Country) and it&#8217;s been renamed to PNC Field from this season forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Give Clemens As Many Easy Starts As Possible</title>
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		<dc:creator>Give Clemens As Many Easy Starts As Possible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 03:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have him skip Boston so they wonder what&#039;s it&#039;s like to face him, not face him 3 times and have it all on film.

You wanna laugh? All these starts would be on YES and My9 (mostly YES), NO YANKEE-HATING ESPN OR FOX LOL. No nationally televised games either.

Oh yeah, only 6 day starts out of 22. 13 of 22 at home.
3 way off the East Coast, but he could fly from Texas to all of them (Texas to Chicago, Colorado, and Detroit). His starts vs. Detroit are in 4-game series, so we&#039;re guaranteed to have at least 2 among Wang, Pettitte, and Mussina start
and all4 might pitch either series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have him skip Boston so they wonder what&#8217;s it&#8217;s like to face him, not face him 3 times and have it all on film.</p>
<p>You wanna laugh? All these starts would be on YES and My9 (mostly YES), NO YANKEE-HATING ESPN OR FOX LOL. No nationally televised games either.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, only 6 day starts out of 22. 13 of 22 at home.<br />
3 way off the East Coast, but he could fly from Texas to all of them (Texas to Chicago, Colorado, and Detroit). His starts vs. Detroit are in 4-game series, so we&#8217;re guaranteed to have at least 2 among Wang, Pettitte, and Mussina start<br />
and all4 might pitch either series.</p>
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		<title>By: susan mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 03:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: what Steinbrenner said to Clemens, Bill Madden reported  as follows:
&quot;But what was especially influential was when I met with my owner, Mr. Steinbrenner, in spring training and the words he said to me, which I&#039;ll keep close to my heart for now.&quot;

What Steinbrenner said to Clemens that day was: &quot;I need you, pal. I want you back with me,&quot; before giving the pitcher a warm hug. At the time, however, Steinbrenner didn&#039;t know how much he was going to need Clemens. From the NY Daily News 5/7/07.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: what Steinbrenner said to Clemens, Bill Madden reported  as follows:<br />
&#8220;But what was especially influential was when I met with my owner, Mr. Steinbrenner, in spring training and the words he said to me, which I&#8217;ll keep close to my heart for now.&#8221;</p>
<p>What Steinbrenner said to Clemens that day was: &#8220;I need you, pal. I want you back with me,&#8221; before giving the pitcher a warm hug. At the time, however, Steinbrenner didn&#8217;t know how much he was going to need Clemens. From the NY Daily News 5/7/07.</p>
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		<title>By: Give Clemens As Many Easy Starts As Possible</title>
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		<dc:creator>Give Clemens As Many Easy Starts As Possible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 03:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s how I&#039;d map out the season for Clemens:

PREPARATION FOR THE SEASON:
5/18: Start in Tampa
5/23: Start in Trenton
5/28: Start in Scranton

WITH THE YANKEES:
6/4 @ Chicago (Clemens flies there from Texas 6/2)
6/9 Pittsburgh
6/14 Arizona (Clemens could go back to Texas)
6/20 @ Colorado (Clemens could fly there from Texas)
6/26 @ Baltimore (Clemens could fly back to Texas from CO
then fly to Baltimore)
7/1 Oakland
7/6 Angels
7/12 @ Tampa Bay (He flies there from Texas and pitches only 5 IP on artificial turf cuz everyone is well rested to give the Yanks 4 IP)
7/17 Toronto
7/22 T.B.
7/27 @ Baltimore (first time he flies from NY, brief flight)
8/3 Kansas City
8/8 @ Toronto (5 IP on artificial turf, back to NY 8/9, not Cleveland)
8/14 Baltimore
8/19 Detroit (Clemens doesn&#039;t make the trip to L.A., he could go to Texas 8/20, stay there 8/20-22 then fly to Detroit)
8/23)
8/25 @ Detroit (go to Texas 8/26, stay there 8/26-28)
8/31 T.B. (fly from Texas 8/29, skip Boston)
9/5 Seattle
9/12 @ Toronto (5 IP on artificial turf -the Yanks should have a postseason berth if not the division wrapped up with 16 games left to play after this game, he goes NY 9/13)
9/17 Baltimore (skip Boston at Fenway)
9/23 Toronto (he&#039;s in NY 9/13-26 assuming he flies to Baltimore 9/26 for a 9/28 start)
9/28 @ Baltimore (he avoids T.B.&#039;s artificial turf)

The only challenges he has out of these 22 starts (13 at home) are the two vs. Detroit and one vs. the Angels, but two are at home and one is at a pitcher&#039;s park (Detroit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how I&#8217;d map out the season for Clemens:</p>
<p>PREPARATION FOR THE SEASON:<br />
5/18: Start in Tampa<br />
5/23: Start in Trenton<br />
5/28: Start in Scranton</p>
<p>WITH THE YANKEES:<br />
6/4 @ Chicago (Clemens flies there from Texas 6/2)<br />
6/9 Pittsburgh<br />
6/14 Arizona (Clemens could go back to Texas)<br />
6/20 @ Colorado (Clemens could fly there from Texas)<br />
6/26 @ Baltimore (Clemens could fly back to Texas from CO<br />
then fly to Baltimore)<br />
7/1 Oakland<br />
7/6 Angels<br />
7/12 @ Tampa Bay (He flies there from Texas and pitches only 5 IP on artificial turf cuz everyone is well rested to give the Yanks 4 IP)<br />
7/17 Toronto<br />
7/22 T.B.<br />
7/27 @ Baltimore (first time he flies from NY, brief flight)<br />
8/3 Kansas City<br />
8/8 @ Toronto (5 IP on artificial turf, back to NY 8/9, not Cleveland)<br />
8/14 Baltimore<br />
8/19 Detroit (Clemens doesn&#8217;t make the trip to L.A., he could go to Texas 8/20, stay there 8/20-22 then fly to Detroit)<br />
8/23)<br />
8/25 @ Detroit (go to Texas 8/26, stay there 8/26-28)<br />
8/31 T.B. (fly from Texas 8/29, skip Boston)<br />
9/5 Seattle<br />
9/12 @ Toronto (5 IP on artificial turf -the Yanks should have a postseason berth if not the division wrapped up with 16 games left to play after this game, he goes NY 9/13)<br />
9/17 Baltimore (skip Boston at Fenway)<br />
9/23 Toronto (he&#8217;s in NY 9/13-26 assuming he flies to Baltimore 9/26 for a 9/28 start)<br />
9/28 @ Baltimore (he avoids T.B.&#8217;s artificial turf)</p>
<p>The only challenges he has out of these 22 starts (13 at home) are the two vs. Detroit and one vs. the Angels, but two are at home and one is at a pitcher&#8217;s park (Detroit).</p>
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		<title>By: RoMo</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoMo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 03:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry to nitpick Pete, but the Scranton team sold the naming rights to their stadium before the season started.

They play at PNC Field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry to nitpick Pete, but the Scranton team sold the naming rights to their stadium before the season started.</p>
<p>They play at PNC Field.</p>
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		<title>By: Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 03:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;Donâ€™t dig that back foot in, Julio Lugo. The first one is sure to be up and in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;Donâ€™t dig that back foot in, Julio Lugo. The first one is sure to be up and in.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 02:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some of Clemens&#039; pitch counts in his last season in Boston, from April-July:

123
129
128
119
124
129
95
120
142
158
131
139
124
127
123
124
161

Clemens was what he always was, a horse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some of Clemens&#8217; pitch counts in his last season in Boston, from April-July:</p>
<p>123<br />
129<br />
128<br />
119<br />
124<br />
129<br />
95<br />
120<br />
142<br />
158<br />
131<br />
139<br />
124<br />
127<br />
123<br />
124<br />
161</p>
<p>Clemens was what he always was, a horse.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 02:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Clemens WAS in decline, and his durability WAS a concern, during his last 4 years in Boston. That is what the stats document. &quot;

really?  the 242 IP in his last year show durability was a concern?

i wish the Yankees had more pitchers with those durability concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Clemens WAS in decline, and his durability WAS a concern, during his last 4 years in Boston. That is what the stats document. &#8221;</p>
<p>really?  the 242 IP in his last year show durability was a concern?</p>
<p>i wish the Yankees had more pitchers with those durability concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Give Clemens As Many Easy Starts As Possible</title>
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		<dc:creator>Give Clemens As Many Easy Starts As Possible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 02:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be foolish for the Yankees to have Clemens start his season at Fenway 6/1. Think about it: all the starting pitcher for Boston has to do is hit Jeter and A-Rod in the first inning, the homeplate ump warns both benches. Clemens&#039; can&#039;t pitch inside before he even throws a pitch, but you know he&#039;ll hit Ortiz or Manny regardless, benches clear. If I was Boston&#039;s manager, that&#039;s what I&#039;d do: hit Jeter and A-Rod, make Clemens hit me then charge the mound, get Clemens kicked out and suspended. Dirty but necessary pool. I&#039;d play mind games with the Yankees, have to right off the bat without using it. You can&#039;t let Clemens beat you if you&#039;re Boston. If Clemens goes inside to Ortiz or Manny, either could point at him, say some shit like Betancourt did to Proctor and why not? WHY MAKE IT A MEDIA CIRCUS, YANKEES? Is that what this is all about? A circus? Or winning games? The rest of the Yankees rotation is more than capable of taking 2 of 3 from Boston without Clemens.

It makes much more sense for Clemens to start his season 6/4 at Chicago and face Pittsburgh in N.Y. 6/9 because that&#039;s an easier two games then Boston then Chicago away. What, Wang, Pettitte, and Mussina can&#039;t handle Boston? I mean Torre is lining it up so at least two of those guys pitch in Boston right? Also, say you start Clemens 6/1 and 6, he misses facing Pittsburgh, he faces Arizona with an extra days rest probably (off-day 6/11) then the Mets 6/17. Why deal with another media circus? What if 6/16 is rained out? Now Clemens has the pressure of giving the Yanks length in the doubleheader 6/17.

The plan should be:
6/4 @ Chicago 
6/9 vs. Pittsburgh
6/14 vs. Arizona 
6/20 @ Colorado 
6/26 @ Baltimore 
7/1 vs. Oakland
7/6 vs. The Angels
Extra day&#039;s rest with the All Star Break if he starts
7/12 vs. T.B. 

NO RED SOX. NO METS, NO TRIP TO SAN FRAN, NO BONDS, NO ABOVE .500 TEAMS SAVE THE ANGELS, NO POSSIBILITY OF FACING RANDY JOHNSON, TOM GLAVINE, BARRY ZITO, OR JOHANN SANTANA. 

I want those first 7 starts to be against teams which the Yanks could most definitely go 5-2 or better against. I mean Oakland can&#039;t hit and the Angels would be Clemens&#039; first real challenge -and only one until 8/19 if he faces T.B. 7/12, Toronto 7/17, T.B. again 7/22, Baltimore 7/27, K.C.
8/3, Toronto 8/8, Baltimore 8/14 then his next biggest challenge Detroit at home 8/19. After that he faces Detroit there (pitchers&#039; park) 8/25 then skip the Yanks-Boston circus again and have him go for the much surer win vs. T.B. 8/31. By then the Yanks should be on their way to playing decent ball in September to win another divsion title. He&#039;d then face Seattle 9/5, Toronto 9/12, skip Fenway and face Baltimore at home 9/17, Toronto at home 9/23, then one final tuneup start for the postseason vs. Baltimore 9/28.

Do a Matsuzaka in spring training: Have Clemens avoid Boston to make Boston imagine facing him like A.L. teams had to imagine facing Matsuzaka all of spring training.

If he starts 6/1 in Boston, he draws Chicago 6/6, Arizona 6/12, the Mets 6/17, San Francisco there 6/23, Oakland 6/29, and Minnesota 7/4. Considerably tougher teams and no need for that with Wang, Pettitte, Mussina, and hopefully Hughes at some point in June.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be foolish for the Yankees to have Clemens start his season at Fenway 6/1. Think about it: all the starting pitcher for Boston has to do is hit Jeter and A-Rod in the first inning, the homeplate ump warns both benches. Clemens&#8217; can&#8217;t pitch inside before he even throws a pitch, but you know he&#8217;ll hit Ortiz or Manny regardless, benches clear. If I was Boston&#8217;s manager, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;d do: hit Jeter and A-Rod, make Clemens hit me then charge the mound, get Clemens kicked out and suspended. Dirty but necessary pool. I&#8217;d play mind games with the Yankees, have to right off the bat without using it. You can&#8217;t let Clemens beat you if you&#8217;re Boston. If Clemens goes inside to Ortiz or Manny, either could point at him, say some shit like Betancourt did to Proctor and why not? WHY MAKE IT A MEDIA CIRCUS, YANKEES? Is that what this is all about? A circus? Or winning games? The rest of the Yankees rotation is more than capable of taking 2 of 3 from Boston without Clemens.</p>
<p>It makes much more sense for Clemens to start his season 6/4 at Chicago and face Pittsburgh in N.Y. 6/9 because that&#8217;s an easier two games then Boston then Chicago away. What, Wang, Pettitte, and Mussina can&#8217;t handle Boston? I mean Torre is lining it up so at least two of those guys pitch in Boston right? Also, say you start Clemens 6/1 and 6, he misses facing Pittsburgh, he faces Arizona with an extra days rest probably (off-day 6/11) then the Mets 6/17. Why deal with another media circus? What if 6/16 is rained out? Now Clemens has the pressure of giving the Yanks length in the doubleheader 6/17.</p>
<p>The plan should be:<br />
6/4 @ Chicago<br />
6/9 vs. Pittsburgh<br />
6/14 vs. Arizona<br />
6/20 @ Colorado<br />
6/26 @ Baltimore<br />
7/1 vs. Oakland<br />
7/6 vs. The Angels<br />
Extra day&#8217;s rest with the All Star Break if he starts<br />
7/12 vs. T.B. </p>
<p>NO RED SOX. NO METS, NO TRIP TO SAN FRAN, NO BONDS, NO ABOVE .500 TEAMS SAVE THE ANGELS, NO POSSIBILITY OF FACING RANDY JOHNSON, TOM GLAVINE, BARRY ZITO, OR JOHANN SANTANA. </p>
<p>I want those first 7 starts to be against teams which the Yanks could most definitely go 5-2 or better against. I mean Oakland can&#8217;t hit and the Angels would be Clemens&#8217; first real challenge -and only one until 8/19 if he faces T.B. 7/12, Toronto 7/17, T.B. again 7/22, Baltimore 7/27, K.C.<br />
8/3, Toronto 8/8, Baltimore 8/14 then his next biggest challenge Detroit at home 8/19. After that he faces Detroit there (pitchers&#8217; park) 8/25 then skip the Yanks-Boston circus again and have him go for the much surer win vs. T.B. 8/31. By then the Yanks should be on their way to playing decent ball in September to win another divsion title. He&#8217;d then face Seattle 9/5, Toronto 9/12, skip Fenway and face Baltimore at home 9/17, Toronto at home 9/23, then one final tuneup start for the postseason vs. Baltimore 9/28.</p>
<p>Do a Matsuzaka in spring training: Have Clemens avoid Boston to make Boston imagine facing him like A.L. teams had to imagine facing Matsuzaka all of spring training.</p>
<p>If he starts 6/1 in Boston, he draws Chicago 6/6, Arizona 6/12, the Mets 6/17, San Francisco there 6/23, Oakland 6/29, and Minnesota 7/4. Considerably tougher teams and no need for that with Wang, Pettitte, Mussina, and hopefully Hughes at some point in June.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 02:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think Clemens wanted Boston, and the 18 million USD offer Luccino &amp; Co. made illustrates that Boston clearly wanted Clemens.&quot;

why would a $4M paycut indicate that Boston really wanted Clemens?  

they knew he wasn&#039;t going to take a paycut.  EVERYONE knew that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think Clemens wanted Boston, and the 18 million USD offer Luccino &amp; Co. made illustrates that Boston clearly wanted Clemens.&#8221;</p>
<p>why would a $4M paycut indicate that Boston really wanted Clemens?  </p>
<p>they knew he wasn&#8217;t going to take a paycut.  EVERYONE knew that.</p>
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