Comments on: Five innings and 78 pitches for Rasner? http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/ A New York Yankees blog by Sam Borden, Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:55:44 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: SJ44 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/comment-page-2/#comment-41919 SJ44 Sat, 12 May 2007 19:20:30 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/#comment-41919 The problem was not Torre taking Rasner out early. Its the fact 3/4 of their lineup are automatic outs right now. The only guys swinging the bat well are ARod, Jeter and Posada. The rest are outs. Some, can't even hit foul balls hard anymore. That's the current problem with this team. If they don't score, they can't win. Rasner was ok, not great last night. Personally, I think he has pitched well enough to stay in the rotation. Last night? 50-50 on whether he took him out too early. In the end, it had no bearing on the outcome of the game. Whether Torre kept him in for another inning or not is immaterial. They aren't hitting and most of the guys in the lineup last night haven't hit for 4 weeks now. If that keeps up, pitching changes and managerial decisions become immaterial. This team won't win. The team is built around its offense. When the offense is a mess (which it is right now), the entire team suffers. Just the way it is with this group this season. The problem was not Torre taking Rasner out early. Its the fact 3/4 of their lineup are automatic outs right now.

The only guys swinging the bat well are ARod, Jeter and Posada. The rest are outs. Some, can’t even hit foul balls hard anymore. That’s the current problem with this team.

If they don’t score, they can’t win.

Rasner was ok, not great last night. Personally, I think he has pitched well enough to stay in the rotation.

Last night? 50-50 on whether he took him out too early. In the end, it had no bearing on the outcome of the game.

Whether Torre kept him in for another inning or not is immaterial. They aren’t hitting and most of the guys in the lineup last night haven’t hit for 4 weeks now.

If that keeps up, pitching changes and managerial decisions become immaterial. This team won’t win.

The team is built around its offense. When the offense is a mess (which it is right now), the entire team suffers.

Just the way it is with this group this season.

]]> By: Ross www.nyystadiuminsider.com http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/comment-page-2/#comment-41915 Ross www.nyystadiuminsider.com Sat, 12 May 2007 19:05:21 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/#comment-41915 Rasner was teetering on the edge of disaster all night. It was right to take him out there. Rasner was teetering on the edge of disaster all night. It was right to take him out there.

]]> By: Taylor http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/comment-page-2/#comment-41889 Taylor Sat, 12 May 2007 17:02:22 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/#comment-41889 You're a reporter Peter. How about you ask him and see what he has to say? I guess he was worried that Proctor was getting a 4 day break soon due to the suspension and wants to make sure he kills it soon. You’re a reporter Peter. How about you ask him and see what he has to say? I guess he was worried that Proctor was getting a 4 day break soon due to the suspension and wants to make sure he kills it soon.

]]> By: Mike S. http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/comment-page-2/#comment-41875 Mike S. Sat, 12 May 2007 15:46:37 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/#comment-41875 This is why I've been critical of Torre. Rasner has a 3.28 ERA but Joe keeps pulling him too early and going to an already overworked bullpen. Except for the one gopher ball to Johjima, Rasner was pitching well. You don't know what DeSalvo will give you today, and you may need the bullpen. It will be interesting to see DeSalvo today, given that Seattle had a good look (and a fruitless one) at him the last time out. It'll be interesting to see how each adjusts to each other in this outing. Rasner's last 4 starts have been... 5 1/3 78 pitches 3 runs, all unearned 4 1/3 (and I'm still mad about Joe pulling him early in this one) 81 pitches 1 run 5 2/3 80 pitches 0 runs 5 78 pitches 3 runs In between the 2nd and 3rd start, Rasner threw 8 shutout innings for Scranton. Leave him in for another inning and 20 pitches or so, Joe! This is why I’ve been critical of Torre. Rasner has a 3.28 ERA but Joe keeps pulling him too early and going to an already overworked bullpen. Except for the one gopher ball to Johjima, Rasner was pitching well. You don’t know what DeSalvo will give you today, and you may need the bullpen. It will be interesting to see DeSalvo today, given that Seattle had a good look (and a fruitless one) at him the last time out. It’ll be interesting to see how each adjusts to each other in this outing.

Rasner’s last 4 starts have been…
5 1/3 78 pitches 3 runs, all unearned
4 1/3 (and I’m still mad about Joe pulling him early in this one) 81 pitches 1 run
5 2/3 80 pitches 0 runs
5 78 pitches 3 runs

In between the 2nd and 3rd start, Rasner threw 8 shutout innings for Scranton.

Leave him in for another inning and 20 pitches or so, Joe!

]]> By: yankee21 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/comment-page-2/#comment-41855 yankee21 Sat, 12 May 2007 14:31:49 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/#comment-41855 Without question Torre doesn't have a clue how to manage a staff or a pen. He has his favorites (Proctor and Bruney this year) Villone and Proctor last year where the first slight hint of trouble he'll have his yes man pitching coach dial up the pen and get them warmed up. It is pathetic how Torre treats the pitchers. Why doesn't he give Rasner a shot at going deeper? Teach him how to overcome adversity, build up confidence etc... And why the hell is Abreu and Cano not being benched so they can figure it out for a couple of days. Bring up someone who can give them life. This team looks and plays dead and are wasting standout performances from Jeter, Posada, Petite , Bruney and A-ROD. Everyone else is either banged up, coming back from injury or playing like dog crap. Without question Torre doesn’t have a clue how to manage a staff or a pen. He has his favorites (Proctor and Bruney this year) Villone and Proctor last year where the first slight hint of trouble he’ll have his yes man pitching coach dial up the pen and get them warmed up. It is pathetic how Torre treats the pitchers. Why doesn’t he give Rasner a shot at going deeper? Teach him how to overcome adversity, build up confidence etc… And why the hell is Abreu and Cano not being benched so they can figure it out for a couple of days. Bring up someone who can give them life. This team looks and plays dead and are wasting standout performances from Jeter, Posada, Petite , Bruney and A-ROD. Everyone else is either banged up, coming back from injury or playing like dog crap.

]]> By: kenny lofton http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/comment-page-2/#comment-41837 kenny lofton Sat, 12 May 2007 13:22:45 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/#comment-41837 glad to see that you're finally catching on, Pete RE: Torre burning out the pen glad to see that you’re finally catching on, Pete
RE: Torre burning out the pen

]]> By: Brian M http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/comment-page-2/#comment-41796 Brian M Sat, 12 May 2007 08:07:52 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/#comment-41796 Aren't we all so funny? Aren’t we all so funny?

]]> By: mel http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/comment-page-2/#comment-41770 mel Sat, 12 May 2007 06:14:17 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/#comment-41770 Asexual fans would be offended, too. Asexual fans would be offended, too.

]]> By: CGramazio http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/comment-page-2/#comment-41764 CGramazio Sat, 12 May 2007 05:29:37 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/#comment-41764 Bi Yankee fans don't like it either. That's not me though. Bi Yankee fans don’t like it either. That’s not me though.

]]> By: Brian M http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/comment-page-2/#comment-41762 Brian M Sat, 12 May 2007 05:13:19 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/05/11/five-innings-and-78-pitches-for-rasner/#comment-41762 MG, some straight Yankees fans don't like it much either. Also not too keen on 'retard'. No need for it here. MG, some straight Yankees fans don’t like it much either. Also not too keen on ‘retard’. No need for it here.

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