I didn’t the get the memo that players were now playing for free.

Incidentally, spending money and buying players is why we are in this mess to begin with.

Some on this thread have suggested that firing Torre is not the answer and Cashman won’t be fired mid season. But I say that if the firing creates a spark then do it. If not, then Cashman and Torre need to have a heart to heart and realize that the group hug therapy is not working. This is really the issue. There is no fire. No way would a Paul O’Neil, Scott Brosius, Tino Martinez, etc continue to let this team squander away like paycheck collectors.

At least bringing up some young guys might make the bench a little more versatile. It’s a small in-house fix that could have some good effects.

Quote from Jmb9191 – Met Fan

“Some guy on WFAN just called, and said “I’d take Wang/Pettite/Mussina over Glavine/Maine/Perez/”

First off, Perez was our fourth starter coming in. Duque is hurt right now anyway, and he could have been pitching in this series instead of Maine. The Yankees just keep losing possibilities for the 4 and 5 spots, first Pavano goes down, then Igawa took the mound, and they sent him down, Hughes with the hammy, Rasner today with the hand…

Now let me ask a question. How many titles has Mike Mussina won? Becuase, from what I hear, Mike Mussina is a hall of fame pitcher, and still as good as he always was. I guess this is kind of suprising, since hes never won any kind of ring, and last year he blew a 2 run lead to Detroit at home, late.

Is it too early to say that Maine and Perez are for real? People see the 6.00 ERA Ollie posted, and think hes just some scrub, that is hot. THEY ARE ALL WRONG, Perez was GREAT in his first professional season, and Johnny Maine has said himself that hes learned more since he got to New York than all 4 years in Baltimore combined. He knows to keep it down, and to mix in his other pitches besides the fastball.

I am just so sick and tired of people doubting our rotation, calling it too old, or too young, or too inexperienced, or too erratic, or too inconsistant. Maine and Perez pitched games 6 and 7 of the LCS last year, people forget that. People forget Tom Glavine is still winning games, and is now 5 away. People forget that El Duque doesn’t need his fastball to win games. People don’t realize that Jorge Sosa won 13 games two years ago.

People don’t want to realize Pettite isn’t the 26 year old kid he was pre millenium. People don’t want to realize that Mussina’s 2 year deal might not have been such a great one.

I mean, you want to say “wang, pettite, Mussina against Maine, Glavine, Perez” all in their primes, you can pick the Yankees if you’d like to..but right now, come on. Lets stop over rating the Yankees 1-3, and Clemens impact that he will make when he comes.

Another thing, which is totally off topic from pitching, but another reason why this team is losing games, isn’t becasue they are slumping.

They are old. Their outfield is not young. They are all 33 and older. Abreu is doing nothing offensivley, and should have been the second out tonight, just to take more heat, but Wagner saved him there. Jeter and Posada are the only ones really doing big things right now. Rodriguez had the great April, but if you hit 14 homeruns every month of the season, he’d hit 84 homeruns. Giambi is old and feeble, the defensive player at first base isn’t a very good hitter, Eye Chart or Phelps. Melky Cabrera is coming back down to earth from his “Got Melky” tour last year.

Maybe, their offensive “stars” from 2000 are just going stale? Hmm..sure, they can all have a great game, and score 17 runs. They can also score 2.

This Yankee team really reminds me of a pre lockout New York Ranger team. Eric Lindros, Pavel Bure, Petr Nedved, Bobby Holik, Darius Kasparitis, the Captain, Messier (Jeter) being there for it all (well, besides the Vancouver experiment) and bringing back Kovalev (Pettite) to try to rekindle some of that old magic.”

“The person, who requested anonymity because only publicist Howard Rubenstein is authorized to speak on Steinbrenner’s behalf, said the only way Steinbrenner would fire Torre this season is if he were convinced the Yankees were out of the race. And as of now, he’s not. Steinbrenner has been citing the example of 1978, when the Yankees were 14 games out of first place in July but came back to overtake the Red Sox on Bucky Dent’s famed home run. Those circumstances were more dire than the ones the Yankees face right now, and yet that year proved retrievable.”

Big Stein is also supposed to have said he does not blame Torre for the current situation.

Rule number one when insulting someone’s intelligence on a blog is to proof your post for mistakes so you don’t embarrass yourself, der. It’s “accept”, not “except”. Now let’s refrain from the unnecessary insults and revisit my previous comment:

I believe AROD will reject any trade proposals so he can test the waters and maximize his potential for an extension or new contract at the end of the year. That’s the smart thing to do, and AROD and Boras are VERY smart.

You can bank on that. Secondly, what right handed third baseman with HR power are you planning on replacing him with.