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Game 50: Yankees at Blue Jays

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on May 29, 2007 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Here are the lineups:

YANKEES
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Matsui LF
Rodriguez 3B
Posada C
Giambi DH
Abreu RF
Mientkiewicz 1B
Cano 2B
Pettitte LHP (3-3, 2.66)

BLUE JAYS
Rios RF
Overbay 1B
Wells CF
Glaus 3B
Thomas DH
Hill 2B
Phillips C
Clayton SS
Lind LF
Marcum RHP (2-2, 4.33)

Pregame chatter: Jason Giambi will have a cortisone shot in his left heel on Thursday morning and hopes to be able to play on Friday. … Scott Proctor is feeling better and is available. … In two years of covering this team, I have never seen what I am looking at now. The Yankees are taking infield before a game, including throws from the outfield.

UPDATE, 7:04 P.M.: Troy Glaus is out of the Toronto lineup. John McDonald will hit ninth and play third. … I have to say, “Oh Canada” is a far better national anthem than “The Star Spangled Banner.” We need to get the Ray Charles version of “America” voted in instead.

UPDATE, 7:10 p.m.: Some people asked for a Phil Hughes update. Not to burst your bubble here, but he’s nowhere close to being ready for the majors. He has a hamstring tear and now a sprained ankle in the same leg. We’re talking sometime in July at this point is everything goes well. Once he gets on the mound again, we’re talking four weeks before he’s ready to pitch in the majors again. … Meanwhile, I don’t care if the Yankees score 12 runs this inning. Derek Jeter should not bunt. He’s a .355 hitter, swing the bat. You should not give away outs in the first inning.

UPDATE, 7:34 p.m.: Seriously, Jason Giambi just stole second base? The Yankees have to win this game now. That’s a travesty.

UPDATE, 8:31 p.m.: Andy Pettitte is throwing a gem (5 3 1 0 0 2) and is down 1-0 as the Yankees can barely get the ball out of the infield against Shawn Marcum. At least his pitch count is up. It’s staggering that they can be this bad offensively. Two runs on seven hits in the last 14 innings. Yeesh.

UPDATE, 8:59 p.m.: The Big G, just when you’re ready to count him out, he drives one out to center. It’s the story of his career in pinstripes. … Meanwhile, we have exciting news on Kei Igawa’s Scranton debut tonight. In five innings he allowed four runs on eight hits with one walk, six strikeouts and a balk. He also threw 97 pitches, which is just awful. Maybe they can trade Igawa to Yakult for Aaron Guiel and play Guiel in right. I’d do that in a second.

UPDATE, 9:42 p.m.: Is there any chance this ends well? Proctor was sick yesterday and he has to find a way to keep the runner at third. There is no faith in Farnsworth whatsoever. Bringing Mariano Rivera in for two innings and hoping to score in the ninth doesn’t make much sense but that might have been the move to make.

 
 

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405 Responses to “Game 50: Yankees at Blue Jays”

  1. 2007 Yankees May 29th, 2007 at 6:28 pm

    How is Giambi playing if he is going to have the cortisone shot on Thursday?
    Interesting flipping Cano and Minky…I’d rather they flip Damon and Jeter

  2. Rocco May 29th, 2007 at 6:32 pm

    Yankees are due to break out. They will score at least 10 runs tonight.

  3. Dr. Acula May 29th, 2007 at 6:35 pm

    This begs the question, shouldn’t Giambi be injected today? A cortisone shot hurts and takes a couple of days to heal.

  4. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 6:41 pm

    Wow, infield practice. Is that the answer. Of all things we’ve questioned, the defense doesn’t seem like it’s been _that_ bad. There have been some balls misplayed, but generally we are hitting the cuts and making most plays on D. Is this an effort to send a message? I just don’t see the justification. Anyone?

  5. 2007 Yankees May 29th, 2007 at 6:42 pm

    I know Giambi is 3-5 with a hr against Marcum but really, if he is “that” bad, he shouldn’t be playing. But as it is, he is still better in there then anyone else right now.

    It’s amazing, Torre use to always pull the right strings with players. This year he is pulling nothing but snake eyes.

  6. Doreen May 29th, 2007 at 6:43 pm

    The team working together aspect of it? Putting in the effort?

  7. YankeeVIP May 29th, 2007 at 6:44 pm

    curious, how do u expect abreu to hit better with minky behind him…very curious

    agreed, if giambi needs a shot,, he shouldnt be playing..let damon rest abit with the dh

  8. Brandon May 29th, 2007 at 6:44 pm

    Why is Damon still playing? I thought he was hurt.

    If he isn’t 100% then he shouldn’t be out there on that turf.

  9. YankeeVIP May 29th, 2007 at 6:49 pm

    what ever happened to phelps… i know he isnt a huge offensive force. but he has some pop, plus maybe a fresh bat maybe what we need to give some life…we dont need all allstars out there, we need guys with some energy

  10. susan mullen May 29th, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    I was under the obviously incorrect impression that the Yankees took infield practice every day. Now I hear it probably hasn’t been done in 2 years. I’m quite surprised by this news. And disgusted.

  11. Stuart May 29th, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    again any news on Hughes????

  12. Brian P May 29th, 2007 at 6:51 pm

    Pete,

    Have you heard anything regarding the MRI on Phil’s ankle or his progress?

  13. KT May 29th, 2007 at 6:52 pm

    Susan have you ever been to a baseball game live. They take some infield individual, but probably not like a high school team as Pete is describing.

  14. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 6:53 pm

    Could be Doreen. It has got to be a shock that they are out there throwing to cut off men and fielding ground balls. Maybe a look in the mirror type move?

    Susan – infielders take ground balls during BP from a fungo and the OF’ers work on seeing the ball off the bat when they shag fly balls. It’s just not a formal IF.

    Cortisone shot shouldn’t keep Giambi out that long. The issue lies wherein it will control the inflammation and make him relatively desensitized to the pain for the time being. The osteophytes will continue to do damage. It will work, but the injection doesn’t address the cause.

    If Damon’s back hurts as he says, and his calf pain is a result of his back pain….the last place he should be is on turf.

  15. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 6:56 pm

    Nobody takes infield anymore. Pete, you have to ask around and see if that’s coming from George.

    That was one of George’s “punishments” to the team in his reign of terror. Forcing them to take infield after bad losses or losing streaks.

    I would love to know who came up with that idea.

    I don’t know about anybody else but, I am suffering from a case of “Jason Giambi Fatigue”. Honestly, I am just sick of hearing about him and his various issues.

    Just sit the guy, and give him a cortizone shot NOW, instead of Thursday.

    He can’t hit, especially for power, anymore so he is useless in the lineup.

    I would have DH’ed Damon and put Melky in CF. With Damon’s legs in bad shape, playing back to back days on turf can’t help him.

    It may be a pipedream but, I really wish the Yankees would begin weening off Jason Giambi. He is of no use to this team right now.

    The only viable role he has is being the most expensive pinch hitter in baseball history. Come up once a game, swing for the downs, and see what happens. He can’t do anything else anymore at this stage of his career.

    Anything else he tries to do becomes a disaster. Its a waste having him in the lineup right now, IMO.

  16. Neil May 29th, 2007 at 7:07 pm

    agree w/ sj44 on giambi

  17. UGH May 29th, 2007 at 7:10 pm

    I HATE when Jeter bunts. We have enough automatic outs in this lineup as it is. We NEED his bat!

  18. Michael May 29th, 2007 at 7:13 pm

    UPDATE, 7:04 P.M.: Troy Glaus is out of the Toronto lineup. John McDonald will hit ninth and play third. … I have to say, “Oh Canada� is a far better national anthem than “The Star Spangled Banner.� We need to get the Ray Charles version of “America� voted in instead.

    I like “Canadian Idiot” myself which I`m playing right now

  19. Clay Bellinger May 29th, 2007 at 7:15 pm

    I hope Torre made them do sprints before the game….

  20. Clay Bellinger May 29th, 2007 at 7:16 pm

    On second thought maybe Torre should do some Sprints because he looks dead in the dugout. He always does but now it is annoying me more than ever.

  21. Matt May 29th, 2007 at 7:17 pm

    The infield practice is mild. I’d run them.

  22. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 7:18 pm

    Pete, I COMPLETELY agree with you about Jeter bunting.

    I just don’t get it.

    Marcum gives up a four pitch walk to start the game. Why not try for a big inning? Hit and run? Something like that.

    To take the bat out of the hands of a guy hitting .360 makes no sense to me.

    Jeter does this on his own and I will never understand why.

    Its not like this team is going to win 1-0 games.

    This is the kind of stuff that drives me nuts about this team.

    Too many veterans to be this dumb, baseball IQ-wise, as they have shown all too often this season.

  23. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    Good thing they had infield practice today. Seemed to have worked as well as that team meeting.

    What’s next, watching tapes of the ’62 Mets?

  24. Michael May 29th, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    Captain Clutch Does It Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  25. Taylor May 29th, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    Peter, can you do me a favor and the next time you interview Jeter, ask him if he is that stupid that he thinks it’s a good idea to bunt in those situations? And if he says that he is that stupid, tell him to STOP BUNTING!!!!!!!

  26. Rocco May 29th, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    Looks like that infield practice is paying off already.

  27. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 7:23 pm

    Yanks are now 5-17 in games when the opposition scores first. Taking the bat out of Jeet’s hands is not a popular call, but that’s what the No. 2 in the lineup should do and needs to do.

    H&R is a good idea however we are all acknowledging that Damon is practically in a wheelchair out there. I’d prefer Jeter swing for the hole on the right side instead of bunting.

    Matsui and ARod failing to get the run across is yet another example of not getting the timely hit.

  28. 2007 Yankees May 29th, 2007 at 7:25 pm

    See….if Jeter led off, it would be Damon bunting and not Jeter. I really think Pete should tell Torre that I suggested Jeter leading off. If Jeter gets on, the whole on the right side is still there for Damon. At this point, does it really hurt to try??

  29. UGH May 29th, 2007 at 7:26 pm

    The way you know this team is DONE, DEAD, OVER: Pettitte’s visual frustration and anger over giving up 1 run in the 1st inning. *1 run. 1st inning*. It could be insurmountable at this point already.

  30. EricNS May 29th, 2007 at 7:26 pm

    Jeter bunted in Game 5 of the 2004 ALCS with a guy on 2nd – and we know how that turned out – he is an intelligent hitter but has an occassional bran cramp.

  31. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 7:27 pm

    I was screaming about that as well Peter. You have a guy who can’t throw a strike and you give him an out?

  32. Michael Kay May 29th, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    I hate my life.

  33. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    Its not what the #2 hitter needs to do when the #3 hitter is hitting under .200 W/RISP and they aren’t winning low scoring games.

    What was one run going to do in the first inning? Nothing.

    What if they hit and run and, all of a sudden, its first and third and 0 outs. Perhaps, they do early damage.

    Instead, you let the pitcher off the hook.

    With this club, they have to score more than one run to win games. Bunting in the first inning, which is Jeter’s call not Torre’s, is flat out dumb.

    1-0, with a guy pitching against them with a 7 ERA. Not looking good already.

    Its one thing to be a bad team. To find different ways to lose every night is about as frustating as can be.

  34. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 7:33 pm

    So then why is Jeter bunting? Does he not have the baseball awareness? Is he pressing? I am with you on the strategy or lack thereof. I am curious as to why you think he did it. What was his objective. Your first and third scenario and be countered with a GIDP, or FC. Then it’s none on or one one. Marcum’s ERA is in the 4′s, not 7. Jeter did his job to get the runner in scoring position.

  35. stewman23 May 29th, 2007 at 7:34 pm

    Look at that man…stealing bases, taking third…I think Giambi must have found that fountain of youth

  36. Dr. Acula May 29th, 2007 at 7:36 pm

    New National Anthem: I nominate Jay-Z’s “Blueprint,â€? 2Pac’s “Dear Mama,” and “Take Me Out To The Ballpark”

  37. Rocco May 29th, 2007 at 7:36 pm

    Giambi’s going to be sweating more then normal tonight!

  38. Amanda May 29th, 2007 at 7:38 pm

    If Giambi can do what he just did, and we STILL can’t score a run…. this team has just reached (yet another) new low.

  39. As I Lay Dying May 29th, 2007 at 7:38 pm

    Well, this game’s over. One run lead is just way too much to overcome for the Yanks. I’m going to dinner now.

    Good night all.

  40. Yeah May 29th, 2007 at 7:38 pm

    were done, down 1-0 this team cannot muster any comeback

  41. Brian (Red Sox Fan) May 29th, 2007 at 7:38 pm

    Jeter only bunts when there is a man on and less than two outs, and the reason is simple. He’s hoping for the base hit, but confident that the official scorer will give him a sacrifice if he gets thrown out. He NEVER bunts when there is no one on.

    It looks as though he’s chasing his stats.

  42. YanksFanLV May 29th, 2007 at 7:40 pm

    Giambi stealing. Wow.

  43. Michael May 29th, 2007 at 7:40 pm

    New National Anthem: I nominate Jay-Z’s “Blueprint,� 2Pac’s “Dear Mama,� and “Take Me Out To The Ballpark�

    For America?

    American Idiot by Greenday

  44. Jeff NJ May 29th, 2007 at 7:41 pm

    Just catching up on the comments, funny how must of the talk was of the timing of Giambi’s cortisone shot, then he gets a SB, thanks to the clutch contact of one Bobby Abreu. Too funny.

  45. UGH May 29th, 2007 at 7:42 pm

    How come every single team in MLB can hit a baseball but the Yankees, for the most part, cannot? That’s only thing left baffling me and if I ever get an answer I can begin to heal from 2007.

  46. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 7:43 pm

    Marcum is 0-2 with a 7.28 lifetime against the Yankees in 6 appearances. Going into tonight’s game, they were hitting .328 off him in his career.

    Which means, he will look like Roy Halliday tonight against this team.

    Re: Hughes, at this point, if he pitches at all the rest of this season, I’ll believe it when I see it.

    If his ankle MRI was clean, the Yankees would be crowing about it.

    With the dearth of good news surrounding this team, if Hughes was ok, they would be issuing press releases to the beat writers, not going underground on the info.

    That tells me his “minor” injury isn’t “minor” at all.

    Its a shame. He was the one bright light to this season. Tells you that when things go bad, they go REAL bad.

  47. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 7:43 pm

    Sorry Brian – I disagree. In no way do I think Jeter is in any way chasing stats. I have seen him bunt for a base hit with no one on before, never is a reach. The official scorer deems it a sacrifice if he gives up his at bat to advance the runner, intent is not a consideration. With a man on and 1 out, he wouldn’t bunt. With no outs, its a classic sacrifice.

  48. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 7:44 pm

    How about another bad call by the ump. Doug was no where near swinging and he calls it a swing. I’m going to run out of fingers to count how many calls have gone against us. I only seem to remember one going in our favor, so it doesn’t even out.

  49. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 7:45 pm

    What is the Pitch count for macum? 10? and 4 are from Johnny. Way to work the count.

  50. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 7:46 pm

    Jason Giambi is supposed to be a power hitter. If we are applauding swinging bunts and a stolen base because of a bad throw by Phillips, we are really reaching folks.

    He shouldn’t be in the lineup because he can’t do anything to help this team. On the rare occasions he gets on base, all he does is clog the bases.

    If he can’t hit for power, aside from trying to justify his salary, there is no logical reason for him to be in the lineup. He isn’t offering any “cover” for hitters.

    Nobody is afraid of pitching to Jason Giambi anymore.

  51. voice of reason May 29th, 2007 at 7:46 pm

    Excuse me sir.

    Phil Hughes’ MRI came back negative after he twisted his left ankle during a drill mid-week.

    This will set him back a couple of days at best.

    He will be expected to return to the yankees mid june not july.

  52. Brian (Red Sox Fan) May 29th, 2007 at 7:49 pm

    Big Steve – you made my point. He only bunts when he’s sure that he’ll get credit for a “classic sacrifice” if he’s thrown out. But if he’s safe, it’s a hit. Win, win. Yeay, me!

    I’ve seen him bunt several times this year (or try to ) and there has ALWAYS been a man on with less than two outs.

  53. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 7:49 pm

    My bad SJ – didn’t know the stats vs. the team. One thing I want to point out to you, in particular, is that I feel you have an extensive knowledge about the game and the team. So, when a statement is challenged, I am not challenging your knowledge, but trying to initiate discussion as a means of distraction from what my TV is showing.

    As for Phil – all I have seen is the statement from yesterday that the MRI revealed a sprain. I know how to read MRI’s but I can’t tell you how to visualize a sprain. That diagnosis is made on sign/symptoms and mechanism of injury. My guess is he has some serious inflammation. The ankle is an extremely strong and once injured becomes susceptible to repeat injuries.

    Giambi didn’t even get it out of the infield. At least he got on base…and all the way to third too!! Thats an accomplishment at this point.

  54. Yeah May 29th, 2007 at 7:49 pm

    this teams pitching doesnt matter, hughes, clemens rivera pettitte wand and mussina cannot hit

  55. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 7:50 pm

    One hit thru 3 innings!! ONE HIT!! And the ONE hit was off of Jason, if the 3rd baseman was playing in a normal position we’d be no hit now!! Why isn’t anyone talking about Kevin Long? How can we be in a slump for 2 months? You can’t keep giving credit to the pitcher. I am so sick of hearing Joe say “well the pitcher, pitched well”. Maybe sometimes, but not for the past 8 weeks!!

  56. Angel May 29th, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    Because they haven’t been in a hitting slump for two months. If you’re going to get hysterical, at least don’t exaggerate while doing it.

  57. Michael Kay May 29th, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    SJ – Do you want my job? I’m kind of tired of it. How do you know so much about the team?

  58. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 7:54 pm

    Mid-June is two weeks away. Hughes isn’t even pitching off the full mound. He isn’t coming back in two weeks.

    Every “minor” Yankee injury ends up taking longer than the predictions.

    Wang had a “minor” hamstring injury. Missed a month.

    Moose was supposed to miss one start with his “minor” hamstring injury. He missed more than one.

    Johnny Damon has “calf cramps”. Supposed to be a “minor” injury, yet he is completely debilatated and is a shell of his former self.

    How about Pavano’s “forearm soreness”? Tommy John Surgery.

    Do you see the pattern?

    Phil Hughes isn’t coming back in two weeks. In fact, I bet we don’t see him until after the All Star Break, if at all, this year.

    I never buy into the Yankee propaganda re” injuries because they never tell the truth.

  59. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 7:54 pm

    Brian – so Jeter is bunting for a base hit, but knows if it he doesn’t make it then it’s a sacrifice…thats how the game is scored. Jeter did not create this situation. The fact of the matter is you wish he was that selfish, but when you realize how good he is, it makes it tough to hate. His reason for bunting in that situation has one purpose in that situation, to get the runner over.

    Cano has made two good turns tonight.

  60. Tom May 29th, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    Man, Cano is looking real real sweet on these double play turns…what a cannon for a second baseman

    Hey, searching for bright spots here

  61. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 7:58 pm

    ARod is not keeping his head still, he is drifting towards the pitcher. He needs to stay back and not worry about the ball away, he’s strong enough to hit it. He really doesn’t like hard breaking stuff inside…gives up on it to early. He needs to rip that ball down the line!

  62. Realist May 29th, 2007 at 8:00 pm

    I can see the Yankees getting no-hit this year.

  63. chazzh May 29th, 2007 at 8:04 pm

    Brian-

    you are WRONG. As someone who watches 95 percent of the time- I have seen Jete bunt for a hit plenty of times in his career (with no one on).

    I have respected your opinion most of the time this year as a very rare ‘rational’ Red Sox fan who seems interested in the discussion- not just here to rub it in Yankees fans noses. For you to attack Jeter as a ‘selfish’ player- you are clueless. I am embarassed for you to have made that assertion (b/c I doubt you really meant) you really showed your RedSox bias there.

  64. Nigel May 29th, 2007 at 8:08 pm

    Brian – “Jeter only bunts when there is a man on and less than two outs”

    Isn’t that when 90% of bunts happen?

  65. VermontSoxFan May 29th, 2007 at 8:10 pm

    I’ve been lurking here for a while, but for someone to say that Jeter is trying to pad his stats is just ridiculous.

    I’m a life-long (over 40 years) Sox fan, and if there is one guy who exemplifies unselfish play, it’s Jeter.

    My take on it is that he was trying to bunt for a base hit, and get his team jump-started.

  66. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 8:11 pm

    Guys, wish I had better news on the minor league front to cheer you up but, I don’t.

    Kei Igawa in AAA tonight: 4 innings, 7 hits, 4 runs, 1 walk, 6 k’s. 82 pitches, 55 strikes. Gave up a bomb to Chris Shelton and Scranton is losing 4-1 in the 4th.

    Looks like he is still trying to “find it”. Which is, a phrase teams use when they really mean the guy can’t pitch.

    That’s a deal that Cashman is going to have a hard time living down. 46 million bucks for a guy getting lit up in AAA. That ain’t good.

  67. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 8:13 pm

    “It looks as though he’s chasing his stats.”
    like a typical troll, you look like you are chasing your butt.

  68. Mel Hall's Uppercut May 29th, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    Cano is clueless up there.

  69. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 8:17 pm

    Oh joy our 46 million dollar bust getting lit up. What a joke that signing was.

  70. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 8:17 pm

    I hope Andy Pettitte rips somebody (or several people) a new one after he loses this game 1-0. Not that Houston’s offense is really any better, mind you…but, man, it’s got to hurt to pitch your butt off every time out only to lose because your grossly overpaid, over-the-hill offense is busy making every pitcher in the league look like the second coming of Nolan Ryan in his prime.

    It boggles my mind that a lot of these guys have the gall to actually accept their paychecks week after week. At a certain point, anyone with any decency and honor would say, “You know what, I’m really not doing anything to earn this money…I really can’t accept it.” So-called “professional” athletes really amaze me…

  71. Randy Velarde May 29th, 2007 at 8:17 pm

    Does Cano know he’s allowed to take a pitch when he’s batting?

  72. Brian (Red Sox Fan) May 29th, 2007 at 8:18 pm

    Chazzh – Jeter is a great player – he’s better now than he’s ever been (should have been MVP last year). Obviously, I don’t see the Yankees as much as you do, so I’ll take your word for it that he bunts with no one on base.

    Jeter is not inherently selfish – but wouldn’t you rather have him swing, especially on the road (where the Yankees struggle for runs)? And there’s no question that he’s fully aware that he gets a free shot at a base hit by bunting with a man on. The scorer has the discretion to call it a fielder’s choice if the player “runs up to bunt” instead of just “squaring around,” but they never do.

    P.S. re: injuries …. I think everyone is copying Bill Belichik on full disclosure (or lack of said). I’d be surprised if Hughes is back anytime soon.

  73. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 8:18 pm

    ” It wasn’t dirty because Kruk said it was dirty. It was dirty because it was dirty. Although even in being dirty ARod has a “girly-monâ€? way of going about it.
    Reminds me of when he was yelling FU, FU, FU at Varitek …. but never had the b—s to start anything. He was shocked when Varitek came after him thought the ump would stay in the way.
    A real wuus ….. and now on the news he’s trying to make it sound like it was real “hardball.”
    the above qoute is from brian (red sox fan)
    his true colors came out long ago. he just had some of you fooled on this blog. ha’s as big a troll as there is, just smarter than most.

  74. RIP 2007 Season May 29th, 2007 at 8:19 pm

    Enough with the goddamn Yankees minor leagues. We only have Hughes and Clippard. Maybe some relief pitching in Britton and in the top A+ prospects but that is it. That is IT. We saw all the “young, top pitching” we had in the minors and it is all crap. As you can see, it played a big part in our failed season along with the collapse of the old farts we pay 200 million dollars to. The position players are even bigger shi*. Shelley Duncan? Enough that that crap too. All of those guys are making an easy living playing ball while having no future in baseball. Those were all wasted, garbage picks. They are not playing NY under anyone’s watch.

  75. Yeah May 29th, 2007 at 8:19 pm

    what the hell is this offense?
    getting shut out by mcgowan and now marcum>?!!?!?! THIS IS RIDICULOUS

  76. nathan May 29th, 2007 at 8:20 pm

    You have to feel sorry for Andy.. guy gets very little run support in Houston.. signs with Yanks.. thinks if anything.. Run Support will help him in the NL to AL jump.. and he gets no love from the Yankee bats…

  77. MikeyB May 29th, 2007 at 8:20 pm

    _It boggles my mind that a lot of these guys have the gall to actually accept their paychecks week after week._

    Chicago Dave – “A lot”? When was the last time one DIDN’T take their paycheck?

    That said, when was the last time you told your boss, “gee, I really don’t deserve this one, boss. You keep it.”

  78. Colorado Yank May 29th, 2007 at 8:20 pm

    Just catching up… Is this a real pitchers duel or just Pettitte pitching well and the Yankess forgetting what to do with the wood in their hands?

  79. Tyr May 29th, 2007 at 8:22 pm

    I think this game kind of proves what Pete has been saying all along: Losing teams find ways to lose games. Getting 2 hit by Shaun Marcum is really sad.

  80. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 8:22 pm

    ” I’d be surprised if Hughes is back anytime soon.”
    once readers here read what you said about arod and varitek when varitek followed arod up the line to instigate a fight with his mask on, i’d be surprised if you’re back here anytime soon.

  81. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 8:23 pm

    MikeyB-

    Well like most happy working stiffs, I actually have to produce results in order to stay employed and continue to get paid…so, no, I haven’t ever turned down a paycheck, because I know I’ve earned my keep.

  82. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 8:24 pm

    Teams playing not to lose find a way to lose…or different ways to lose…scary thing is we haven’t seen them all yet!

  83. KQ May 29th, 2007 at 8:25 pm

    If the Yankees lose 1-0, I would be furious! Pettitte’s been pitching very well. The batters better find a way to score in some runs! It puzzles me that most of these close games could have been won with a homerun, which I thought was what the Yankees really “knew” how to do.

  84. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 8:26 pm

    Alright SJ now is the time for your H&R.

  85. Nigel May 29th, 2007 at 8:26 pm

    DO NOT BUNT!!!!!!!!!

  86. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 8:28 pm

    After this game is over, Pete will probably give Marcum a favorable review just like he did with the stiff who pitched for Toronto yesterday (a guy with such fantastic talent that he went a year between wins!)…But that’s just a prediction. It’s never the crappy offense that’s to blame, is it?

  87. david May 29th, 2007 at 8:28 pm

    Rip 2007 Season, you have no idea what you are talking about. The pitching prospects the Yankees have are the one thing to be encouraged about. Positional prospects are very thin, except for Tabata and maybe Monetero who is years away (he is 17). And maybe Eric Duncan if he ever finds himself again.

  88. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 8:30 pm

    You got your wish Nigel, no bunt…and Damon not in scoring position. The baseball play there is to move him over, preferably with hit and run.

  89. chazzh May 29th, 2007 at 8:31 pm

    Brian-

    agreed- especially in the first inning. They are playing tight…. which we all know in baseball is a VERY bad thing. They are all waiting for the next bad thing to happen. Bunting to try to get up 1-0 vs. Shawn Marcum- shows how bad a rut this team is in.

    That being said- the Yanks have struggled to score the first run this year and I think they are something like 5-20 when the other team scores first this year. So- I guess they were trying to get ont he board first.

    Sorry if I overreacted. You are definitely not a troll- remember, we are all a little sensitive around here. No yankee fan has experienced this since 1995.

  90. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 8:31 pm

    “Nobody is afraid of pitching to Jason Giambi anymore”
    sj44-
    i’m with you on giambi. he needs to be disabled and not brought back until he’s healthy. the heel injury is a bigger problem than people realize. i also agree on giving damon the majority of dh at bats. it would give damon a chance to heal up and still be helping the team.
    if this happens the yankees would need another outfielder. who would you recommend bringing up from the minors?

  91. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 8:33 pm

    When Jeter bunted early, the sentiment was, “what is one run at this point.” See scoreboard. I would have had him bunt again.

  92. RIP 2007 Season May 29th, 2007 at 8:33 pm

    Eric Duncan is finished. Although that’s giving him credit for having it in the first place.

    DeSalvo, Karstens, Rasner, Igawa, and Wright look that encouraging?? Oh man, this place is more delusional than I thought. I suppose Ohlendorf and Steven Jackson look really sweet in AAA too….big, bright futures…..

  93. Brian (Red Sox Fan) May 29th, 2007 at 8:34 pm

    Nigel – Lugo led off today’s Sox game with a bunt base hit. If he got thrown out, he’s 0 for 1. Obviously, there was no one on base.

    No, 90% of bunts do NOT happen with a man on IN THE AMERICAN LEAGUE. This is the DH league, where outs are much too precious. No one gives up an out in the early innings in the AL!

    I’ll stand by my statement. I’ve seen Jeter do this several times (including a slugfest in Boston this year), and he’s clearly aware that he will at least get a sacrifice if he makes an out.

  94. KQ May 29th, 2007 at 8:35 pm

    Was the last pitch to Matsui really a strike???

  95. Michael May 29th, 2007 at 8:35 pm

    Gameday says strike 3 to Matsuio was a ball. Can we please just get one key break?

  96. david May 29th, 2007 at 8:35 pm

    there is no good option of a minor league outfielder. play melky and bring up thompson who has begun to start hitting again at scranton.

  97. david May 29th, 2007 at 8:37 pm

    As I said, you do not know what you are talking about r2007season.

  98. Olga May 29th, 2007 at 8:37 pm

    Watching Tim Lincecum pitch on ESPN is more exciting than this. This is like watching paint dry. Sorry….it pains me as much as it does you. I can’t even take this.

  99. Vince May 29th, 2007 at 8:37 pm

    This is re-GODDAMN-diculous. SHAUN FREAKIN’ MARCUM!

  100. Michael May 29th, 2007 at 8:37 pm

    Shelley Duncan has done well

  101. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 8:38 pm

    Randy,

    They don’t have a lot of options at AAA.

    I would put Melky in center, DL Giambi and probably call up Kevin Thompson. He is a RH hitter, which they need, decent speed, and can be an adequate defensive replacement.

    Shelley Duncan is not a prospect. He’s almost 28, and is more of a DH than an everyday player at the ML level.

    He won’t hit big league pitching. Sort of like Andy Phillips in that regard.

  102. Joe Monte May 29th, 2007 at 8:38 pm

    This offense reminds of me of the team during the playoffs against the Tigers, just stale. If anybody had a real solution, it would be implemented by now.

  103. RIP 2007 Season May 29th, 2007 at 8:38 pm

    And you do, dave?

  104. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 8:39 pm

    Brian -

    I believe there’s a Sox game still in progress right now. Shouldn’t you be on some Sox blog talking about your own team, rather than spouting such ludicrous garbage about Jeter here? It doesn’t matter how bad the Yanks are this year (or how good the Sox might be)…the Sox have never had a second baseman in the modern era that could hold a candle to Jeter…and they never will. And, no, don’t start with me about No-mah…He’s a joke, and that’s why the Sox happily let him leave town.

  105. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 8:40 pm

    You bring up Lincecum so I offer this tidbit – kid does not ice his arm and claims his arm is never sore. Everyone should take a peak at this kid and watch him throw. Impressive mechanics and velocity.

  106. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 8:40 pm

    Correction…I meant shortstop, of course! (It’s been a long day…)

  107. david May 29th, 2007 at 8:41 pm

    As a matter of fact, yes.

  108. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 8:43 pm

    If you want to talk about prospects RIP, at least have a clue.

    The better prospects are in Trenton and Tampa. Scranton? Ohlendorf is hurt and Jackson is struggling. Britton and Ramirez are possible bullpen additions or trade bait. They don’t have any position prospects in Scranton.

    The pitching prospects in Trenton and Tampa are the real deal. Jeff Marquez, Brent Smith, Alan Horne, Kevin Whelan, Joba Chamberlain, Ian Kennedy and Todd Wellkemper are legitimate major league pitching prospects.

    Unfortunately, they aren’t ready to help the parent club this season.

  109. Peter Abraham May 29th, 2007 at 8:43 pm

    Voice of reason:

    Mid June is June 15. Today is May 29. You think Hughes is going to be on a major league mound 17 days?

    Really?

    Sorry to break it to you, but here is the schedule he needs to start at some point:

    bullpen session
    day off
    bullpen session
    day off
    batting practice session
    2 days off
    simulated start
    3 days off
    rehab start
    4 days off
    rehab start
    4 days off

    That’s 21 days and that assume everything goes perfectly well, which it probably won’t.

    He won’t be cleared to start that process for at least another few days. Plus the Yankees will be ultra cautious with him given how good he is.

    July at the earliest. Sorry, Voice.

    He didn’t just sprain his ankle. He tore is hamstring. He has not pitched in a game since May 1. His arm strength and command need to be built back up.

  110. nathan May 29th, 2007 at 8:43 pm

    I think our hitters just need to relax..

  111. Kevin May 29th, 2007 at 8:44 pm

    I wonder if they know. I wonder if they realize the trauma that they are putting us through. Are they on the field saying “na, no worries it isn’t even June” Do they know?
    Cause if they do they should start picking up my bar tab.

  112. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 8:44 pm

    I would rather see the Yanks DL Damon at this point than continue to play him. He’s got a few years left on his contract…so why not try to get him truly healthy sooner than later, so that maybe we can get some good production out of him for the rest of his Yankee career. I see no point in playing injured veterans on a team that is firmly planted in the cellar and clearly going nowhere fast.

  113. Vince May 29th, 2007 at 8:44 pm

    I think the point is there are no POSITIONAL prospects. No catchers, no outfielders, hell not even a first baseman, unless you count the Duncan boys and Juan Miranda.

  114. RIP 2007 Season May 29th, 2007 at 8:45 pm

    You’ve explained nothing and the little you have said hasn’t made sense. I don’t think you know anything.

  115. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 8:45 pm

    “Brian –
    I believe there’s a Sox game still in progress right now. Shouldn’t you be on some Sox blog talking about your own team, rather than spouting such ludicrous garbage about Jeter here?”
    amen dave!!!
    did you read the crap he said about arod. brian(red sox fan) said last week,”Reminds me of when he was yelling FU, FU, FU at Varitek …. but never had the b—s to start anything. He was shocked when Varitek came after him thought the ump would stay in the way.
    A real wuus”.
    dave(red sox fan) is just a higher class red sox troll than most.

  116. Jim Clark May 29th, 2007 at 8:47 pm

    Just as Posada grounded out to put the Yankees on an “8 for 41 with RISP”, Carlos Beltran doubled to put the Mets up. Couldn’t be the same Beltran that George’s baseball people rejected as “he’s no better than Bobby Abreu and no one thinks Abreu is worth $15 million. Let’s trade and give a 3 year $45 million contract to a pitcher in his early 40′s with a bad back.”
    One thing I wonder about is how much is Kevin Long’s fault. Do guys like Matsui, Giambi, Rodriguez, need a hitting coach? What could Long do that has messed them up? Firing him seems like looking for a not-well known guy to be the sacrificial lamb. Age probably has more to due with this slump

  117. Realist May 29th, 2007 at 8:48 pm

    Bench Damon for the year to heal and have him come back next year since we’re stuck with him. We’re playing .200 baseball, no sense in running him down even further.

  118. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 8:48 pm

    SJ44 – I think even when Ohlendorf is healthy he won’t blossom into a true major league-caliber pitcher. The Yanks would have been much better off taking Micah Owings in the Johnson trade if they could have swung it (which various reports at the time said they might have). Looking at Owings stats so far this year makes me weep for what might have been…

    Regardless, unless Ohlendorf is a latter-day Koufax in terms of his development curve, I think his upside is very limited.

  119. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 8:51 pm

    They have a catching prospect in Tampa, Francisco Cervelli, who has the potential to be very good. He’s only 20 years old and his hitting over .300 and is very good defensively. He bears watching.

    Jose Tabata (OF) is also in Tampa. He is the youngest player in the FSL this season (18) and is hitting close to .300 in a big ballpark/pitchers league. He is probably the best Yankees positional prospect right now.

    There is no question, the organization is very light on position prospects.

  120. nathan May 29th, 2007 at 8:52 pm

    People talk as if.. we rejected Owings… according to rumours swirling around the time of the Randy trade.. it was said.. the Yanks were ready to pay more to get Owings.. but Arizona wudnt do it as they thought Owings was ready and cant be traded.. we didnt take Ohlendorf over Owings.. the trade was a decent one..

  121. Zander May 29th, 2007 at 8:52 pm

    I don’t want Jeter bunting either, but I think his bunt and Giambi’s unexpected SB were a result of Torre’s meeting and the team taking IF and OF practice for the first time. It’s “all hands on deck” and a sense of urgency, and that’s all to the good. Trying to jump start something. If we can grind this one out by, say 2-1 or 3-2 it could be a start.

  122. david May 29th, 2007 at 8:53 pm

    Dbacks refused to include Owings even if we paid more of rj’s salary. We have 2 catcher prospects, both very young. Cervelli at Tampa and Montero at extended spring training. Mitch Hilligoss is a 3rd baseman at Charleston who is going for a 35 game hitting streak tonight, 2 or 3 short of minor league record. Limited power though.

  123. Nigel May 29th, 2007 at 8:54 pm

    Why have Jeter bunt when he is one of the only people on the team who can get a hit right now?

    Brian – My 90% statement was in regard to both AL and NL, I would drop that number a bit if it were AL only. But I would think that sacrifice bunts outnumber base hit bunts by a 4 to 1 margin in the AL(it’s 2-0 in this game). Either way, I think that your argument that Jeter stat chases by only bunting in sacrifice situations is way off base.

  124. EH May 29th, 2007 at 8:54 pm

    Just a quick poll, by how many games will this team finish behind the Bosox?

    A. 25-30
    B. 30-40
    C. 40-50
    D. 50-70
    E. > 70

  125. Michael Kay May 29th, 2007 at 8:54 pm

    SEE YA!

  126. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 8:54 pm

    They couldn’t get Owings in the Johnson trade. Arizona had no intentions of giving him up.

    I heard their GM on XM during the spring and he said Owings was an untouchable. He wasn’t available to the Yankees.

    Their plan all along for Owings was to have him in the rotation this season.

    What is Ohlendorf’s ceiling? Hard to say since he isn’t healthy. I don’t know if he will be a successful starter or not.

    He has to get over his back issues and put together a strong second half of the season in Scranton.

  127. Realist May 29th, 2007 at 8:55 pm

    Giambi limped home on a HR.

    Championship teams don’t limp.

  128. stewman23 May 29th, 2007 at 8:56 pm

    At least if he’s falling apart, he’s making a valiant effort as he goes down

  129. Rocco May 29th, 2007 at 8:56 pm

    “Championship teams don’t limp.”

    Tell that to Curt “loud moth” Schilling.

  130. Rocco May 29th, 2007 at 8:57 pm

    loud mouth not loud moth :P

  131. Pollyanna "Porkchop" Pough May 29th, 2007 at 8:57 pm

    giambi just totally flipped out. the fury unleashed. going cannibal. a dark cloud is descending upon toronto. a hush is starting to set in slowly but surely across the al east. clemens is coming. giambi is thumping.

    kyle farnsworth will be eaten. torre will wear a red glove.

    clemens will bang his fist.

  132. Erick May 29th, 2007 at 8:58 pm

    The Giambino providing the offense almost by himself, and the guy us hurting, can’t walk right, these guys need something.

    I am sure management has tried everything they can. Petite needs to start getting in peoples faces, pull seniority or something, he can’t pitch this well and have zero support.

    I don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, but I think Jeter and Petite (if they haven’t already, and they probably have) should be more pro-active and call people out.

    When Clemens comes you know that probably is going to happen, but more players need to take that role, rally the guys, ask more out of them, be more aggressive.

  133. Giambino's fan May 29th, 2007 at 8:59 pm

    Giambi ‘ve got a HR!!!!!!

    I can’t believe that every starting picther become an ACE when they face Yankees lineup……

  134. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 9:00 pm

    Abreu’s front foot is in the bucket on every pitch. On the breaking ball away from a lefty the front side pull off is exaggerated.

    Reports say Giambi has plantar fascitis which is extremely painful. Once he is warmed up, he needs to move continuously. Once he stops moving, the fascia will tighten up, Looked like a painful trip around the bases. The haters are quited…for the time being.

  135. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 9:01 pm

    sj 44
    instead of bringing up thompson who you seem lukewarm about , what about trying to get an older one year rental player who could back up in the outfield and pinch it with some pop. someone who would be like strawberry was or raines. i don’t know who that would be, but depending on how long giambi is out( and he’s gonna be) the yankees could use someone with some pop.
    ( as i write this giambi homers) lol
    scratch plan a.
    plan b would be to have giambi and damon split the dh role until they are both healthy.
    giambi would then become the pop off the bench .

  136. gayle May 29th, 2007 at 9:02 pm

    a base steal and a homer all in one game who would have thunk it. The planter thing is what Larry Hughes of the Cavs has

  137. Kevin May 29th, 2007 at 9:03 pm

    “Clemens will bang his fist”
    And I will consume as much cheap beer and bigelow tea as possible.
    Where have you been my sweet porkchop?

  138. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:03 pm

    I know a lot of people are divided on Josh Phelps, but I for one would like to see him get some more regular playing time. Heck, Minky’s defense isn’t really making a huge difference for us in terms of wins and losses right now, so why the heck not give Phelps more of a look?

  139. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    Yup – they are saying Hughes actually has a tear in the plantar fascia. When it gets really tight it can pull on the heel. Overtime, small bone spurs (osteophytes, enthesopathies) form and become painful. For a guy like Hughes, it’s more acute and has a better recovery rate. For Giambi, age and abuse (chemical and physical) are contributing factors.

  140. Vince May 29th, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    Bring up Shelley Duncan, send down Nieves and have Phelps be the backup catcher. He looked good, at least for the inning he played there. Certainly he can catch once a week. That way we get an extra bat in there.

  141. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:07 pm

    How pathetic is this…I’m actually hoping Pettitte is done for the night so he won’t suffer the loss when Toronto inevitably tacks on run #2.

  142. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 9:08 pm

    “Just a quick poll, by how many games will this team finish behind the Bosox?”
    the 2007 playoffs start 0-0. the red sox lose in the first round and the yankees go on to win another world championship.

  143. david May 29th, 2007 at 9:09 pm

    As I said, if Eric Duncan ever finds himself…. he is 3 for 3 tonight with 2 hrs.

  144. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:10 pm

    I really wish they would have taken Pettitte out…I can’t bear to see him take the “L” when Toronto inevitably tacks on run #2! Pathetic, I know…but that’s what it has come to these days. I feel so bad for Andy…I’d rather see him avoid the loss than keep pitching!!!

  145. Pollyanna "Porkchop" Pough May 29th, 2007 at 9:11 pm

    eh:

    this team will not finish behind the bosox. the yankees will take the division and win everything everywhere. i’ve posted it so many times today, this is all a big plan by the yankees to rest the first half of the season so people like mo, hughes, clemens and everyone else will be fresh like secret weapons when the second half begins. from july 15-august 15, the yankees will destroy boston’s lead.

    i’ve said it many times today but it’s like when rocky would fight his oponents right handed and take all their hits totally wearing them out. then later on in the fight, when clubber or drago were tired, he would switch to southpaw and knock them out. this is what cashman planned. it’s rope-a-dope. it’s pure genius.

    it’s also like the soviet union pretending to collapse, when you know they are tricking us and are totally going to take us over in the future. it’s a smart trick.

    clemens is a secret weapon. he’s our vicious hippopotomous. the yanks might look doofy and lazy but will maul anyone who comes close.

    you will see. clemens banged his fist at the press conference in scranton last night, sending shudders through the press corps. he will do the same to all opposing teams.

    boston red sox fans shall soon know only darkness and distress. i stated before, they will walk the streets of boston in the night in tattered clothing with dirty faces and black eyes crying and begging for milk and butter.

    clemens will bang his fist.

  146. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 9:13 pm

    Phelps can’t catch. That’s not an option. He can’t throw the ball with any effectiveness and he doesn’t block balls well. Pitchers would hate pitching to him.

    One inning is not a game.

    If he could catch, with his bat, he would be the most sought after player in baseball since, good hitting backup catchers, who are also good defensively, are gold. There is a reason why he was a Rule 5 guy.

    Shelley Duncan also isn’t the answer. Nothing more than a career minor leaguer, a AAAA-type of player.

    Randy,

    I agree, that’s not a bad option if you can find the right guy. A guy who has worn out his welcome elsewhere, for example, since its tough to do trades this early in the season.

    I don’t have a name right now that could fill that bill at this time.

    Pete,

    Its nice he hit one HR but, let’s be serious here, one isolated hit really doesn’t mean much in the grand scheme of things.

    In a perfect world, if the Yankees could rid themselves of Jason Giambi, they could fix a lot of what’s broken quicker than they can carrying him on the roster.

  147. david May 29th, 2007 at 9:14 pm

    As I said, if Eric Duncan finds himself… he is 3 for 3 tonight with 2 hrs.

  148. Sam May 29th, 2007 at 9:14 pm

    Pettitte’s losing control — lots of pitches up and he just gave up consecutive singles. You can feel the bullpen coming like a looming cloud of doom.

    Meanwhile, Boston is winning 4-0 in the 7th, so it looks like the Yankees will be 13 1/2 back with a win, 14 1/2 back with a loss.

  149. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 9:15 pm

    big steve,
    isn’t a lack of flexibilty a contribting problem in both hamstrings and plantar fasciitus? what’s your opinion of the yankee preventative stretching program throughout the organization?

  150. Kevin May 29th, 2007 at 9:15 pm

    Could it be that Abreu’s injury from this past spring training did not completely heal and that is why he has been so craptastic? Aside from Igawa, he has been my biggest disappointment this season.

    BTW
    My Sux friends tell me that the beer chicks that serve the seats right behind home plate at the Rodgers Center are super hot. They have turned Getty Lee into a huge baseball fan. For those who can watch this game, please update us on this situation.

  151. Pollyanna "Porkchop" Pough May 29th, 2007 at 9:16 pm

    phelps should bang his fist on bono. i mean philips.

  152. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 9:16 pm

    Okay where was the interference call?? What a bs move by Phillips. He ran inside the line to Run into Phelps.

  153. Brian (Red Sox Fan) May 29th, 2007 at 9:16 pm

    Chicago Dave – I’ve previously acknowledged that Jeter is a great player ….. with Sheffield gone, he’s the Yankee I least want to see at the plate when the game’s on the line …. a VERY tough out. He’s durable, talented, smart, oblivious to pressure. The Red Sox haven’t had anyone as good (at SS) in my lifetime (1/7/48).

    I was simply responding to the dismay and confusion of Yankee fans over his first inning bunt. My explanation is plausible, and is buttressed by the fact I have seen him do it several times before. That still doesn’t mean that he’s not a great player. What else can I say?

    P.S. Sign of the Apocalypse …. Dustin Pedroia now has a higher batting average than ARod. I won’t even try to explain that one.

  154. Pollyanna "Porkchop" Pough May 29th, 2007 at 9:17 pm

    hello poster named eh:

    this team will not finish behind the bosox. the yankees will take the division and win everything everywhere. i’ve posted it so many times today, this is all a big plan by the yankees to rest the first half of the season so people like mo, hughes, clemens and everyone else will be fresh like secret weapons when the second half begins. from july 15-august 15, the yankees will destroy boston’s lead.

    i’ve said it many times today but it’s like when rocky would fight his oponents right handed and take all their hits totally wearing them out. then later on in the fight, when clubber or drago were tired, he would switch to southpaw and knock them out. this is what cashman planned. it’s rope-a-dope. it’s pure genius.

    it’s also like the soviet union pretending to collapse, when you know they are tricking us and are totally going to take us over in the future. it’s a smart trick.

    clemens is a secret weapon. he’s our vicious hippopotomous. the yanks might look doofy and lazy but will maul anyone who comes close.

    you will see. clemens banged his fist at the press conference in scranton last night, sending shudders through the press corps. he will do the same to all opposing teams.

    boston red sox fans shall soon know only darkness and distress. i stated before, they will walk the streets of boston in the night in tattered clothing with dirty faces and black eyes crying and begging for milk and butter.

    clemens will bang his fist.

  155. Matt May 29th, 2007 at 9:17 pm

    Okay. I think the problem is we have the Phelps/Mink the Stink situation backwards. We should minimize the Stink’s AB but bring him in late in games. Not the other way around.

  156. Russell W May 29th, 2007 at 9:18 pm

    How about “Living in America” by James Brown himself?

  157. Russell W May 29th, 2007 at 9:18 pm

    game over, stole home.

  158. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 9:19 pm

    Can anything else go wrong for this team??

  159. Russell W May 29th, 2007 at 9:19 pm

    you guys have no idea how mad i am

  160. Rocco May 29th, 2007 at 9:19 pm

    WOW, I’m speechless.

  161. Justin May 29th, 2007 at 9:19 pm

    That’s gotta be a new low, right?

  162. Chuck May 29th, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    Case #121 for the firing of Joe Torre: Why was he not out there arguing for some kind of interference when Phillips ran into Phelps at 1st base??? Phillips was inside the baseline AND shoved Phelps. Torre has got to get his ass off the bench and scream… or just tell George to keep his money and retire.

  163. Ryan May 29th, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    Safe to say the Jays stole this game away?

  164. Yeah May 29th, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    god what is this garbage???????????? guys are stealing home on the yankees this is so pathetic, why is torre not unemployed yet? this team has no heart no desire, they cant hit, they cant field and they dont care about any of their fans or the yankee history.

  165. Jeff NJ May 29th, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    Matt, agreed, Phelps to start to the game, Minky to finish.

    That steal of home was just embarassing. I don’t know how this could get much worse.

  166. Rocco May 29th, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    i’m speechless.

  167. James Nordon May 29th, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    talk about kicking someone when theyre down

  168. RIP 2007 Season May 29th, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    HAHAHAHA…… :::weeps::

    Stealing home?? On Pettitte?? OMG…..omgomgomgomg….

    :::Puts the Yankee season in a coffin, slams the lid shut, drills it shut, and kicks it into the ground:::

  169. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    looks like a totally illegal play by jason phillips. it did not look he was in his lane running to first. i’m watching on toronto’s feed . what does it look like on yes?
    great , a steal home!! what is going on? is anyone awake here on this team?
    screw the green tea. this team needs legal stimulants.

  170. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    I think my neighbors could hear me cursing! I can’t believe this. Now can we get it back for Andy??

  171. Taylor May 29th, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    If Joe doesn’t care enough to argue an obvious non-call interference, I don’t see why the players would care to win this game.

  172. Colorado Yank May 29th, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    ok, that officially puts the Yankees as a F’ng joke. Pathetic!!!!!!!!

    When did the Yankees get so friggin’ bad and become such a joke.

  173. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    Absolutely randy. There are myofascial lines that connect the entire back side of the body. Plantar fascia runs into the calf (gastrocnemius) and then into the hamstrings, cross over at the sacrotuberous ligament, to the lower back para spinal muscles…all the way up to the back of your neck and onto the top of your head.

    Try touching your toes. Then take a golf ball and massage the bottom of one foot for 25020 seconds, then try touching your toes again. The side you massaged will have better range.

    The stretching program that I have seen is a static program – stretch and hold, which suppresses the central nervous system. When Jeff Mangold was here, he promoted a dynamic warmup which activates the central nervous system. Stretching is important but should not be the focus unless there is an imbalance.

  174. Matt May 29th, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    This is rock bottom.

  175. James Nordon May 29th, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    nice, inning over lets get that run back

  176. Russell W May 29th, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    Igawa is a worse deal for us than Pavano.

  177. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    This is when you know its not your year.

    The one time Torre lifts Minky for a PH in a close game, it comes back to bite him in the butt. Phelps can’t dig a DP throw out of the dirt, a throw Minky gets in his sleep and it changes the game.

    Hill steals home and that’s the ballgame. With this offense, they have little to no chance of scoring two more runs in this game.

    Bad teams find different ways to lose every single night.

    The Yankees fit the bill to a tee.

    What a mess.

  178. Joeysdadjoe May 29th, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    This is ugly

  179. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    Yeah Chuck, Joe was sitting there with that stupid smirk watching.

  180. Asst Manager May 29th, 2007 at 9:22 pm

    Its always great to make the Blue Jays 4 and 5 starters look like Cy Young award winners.

    I’ve just about given up. Apparently George has too.

  181. Sam May 29th, 2007 at 9:23 pm

    Pollyanna “Porkchop” Pough:

    What medication are you on, exactly? Can I have some?

  182. Jeff NJ May 29th, 2007 at 9:23 pm

    Ever notice that the go ahead runs always seem to score after the bad calls against us? I don’t say that to be a complainer, and I can buy the argument that bad calls even out, but it sure seems we alwasys give it up after bad calls. Not sure if that is a coincidence or not.

  183. Chris NY May 29th, 2007 at 9:23 pm

    Can we get Andy some damn runs please??????

  184. Russell W May 29th, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    “Hill steals home and that’s the ballgame. With this offense, they have little to no chance of scoring two more runs in this game.”

    Leave out the little part. They have absolutely no chance. Even with Jeter-Matsui and A-Rod.

  185. Larry May 29th, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    Check the rulebook Chuck, the batter has the right of way when running down the line, he can do anything he wants to that 1st baseman if he is in his way. This garbage play makes me sick to my stomach, if Minky was in there he would have scooped that throw and if he didn’t do that he would have motioned to Pettitte to throw home quicker, unreal

  186. Rufus May 29th, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    I still do not comprehend why a Red Sox fan like Brian would waste his time and post here.

    Do you not have a life? Are you that much a loser?

    Make a friend, fella. It doesn’t hurt.

  187. Chuck May 29th, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    Case #122: Unprepared for an attempted steal of home.

  188. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    Randy,

    The play at first was a legal play. Nothing wrong with it.

    Phelps has to make that scoop if he is a competent first baseman which, unfortunately, he isn’t.

    The one time Torre pinch hits for Minky (who makes that play) he pays for it.

    Its been that kind of year. Nothing has gone right for the Yankees this season.

  189. Neil May 29th, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    looks like the yankees found a new way to loose. THIS IS GETTING REDICULOUS(sp)

  190. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:25 pm

    With the way things are going, I honestly wish Andy wouldn’t have come back. This is a cruel way to finish off his career in pinstripes!

  191. Rufus May 29th, 2007 at 9:25 pm

    You do got to love the people posting saying we have no chance to win. Again. Why come here? Do you post that with or without your Papelbon jersey on?

  192. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 9:26 pm

    Every guy swinging at the first pitch. Sign of a team mailing in the rest of the game.

    I guess there must be some action in Toronto tonight since nobody wants to work counts anymore. What an embarrassment this team has become. They should be ashamed of themselves.

  193. Angel May 29th, 2007 at 9:26 pm

    I hate to say it… Minky would have had that.

  194. James Nordon May 29th, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    SJ44 are you a Yankee fan? Just curious.

  195. Russell W May 29th, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    Im calling a double baserunning error leading to the final 2 outs

  196. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 9:28 pm

    Okay two breaks, can we actually take advantage of it?

  197. Jeff NJ May 29th, 2007 at 9:28 pm

    Ah another error. That just gives Lupica the green light to say the Yankees can’t win when the other team is trying to give it away, assuming they lose that is.

    Anyway, let’s take this game, why not see what winning feels like again?

  198. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    It’s nice Toronto is having such a terrible night in the field…If it wasn’t for their errors, we wouldn’t have mounted any rallies tonight so far!

  199. Dr. Acula May 29th, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    Hip Hip Jorge!!

  200. Russell W May 29th, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    I STAND CORRECTED!!!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DONT PUT FARNSWORTH IN TO BEGIN THE NEXT INNING!!!!

  201. Jeff NJ May 29th, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    HIP HIP JORGE!!

  202. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    Oh good lord are we finally taking advantage? Scored one can we score more?

  203. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    brian (red sox fan)-
    do you still think arod is a” real wuus” as you said on this blog a week ago? my opinion is that you are a two faced red sox troll.
    you’re finished on this blog with that arod comment. bye bye.

  204. Erick May 29th, 2007 at 9:30 pm

    … speechless…

    Teams are using the Yankees are practice mates at this point. They play NY to hone their skills against opponents that actually put up a fight.

    I can’t believe Torre didn’t run out there and scream. Not a very good way to show support for his guys.

  205. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 9:30 pm

    randy1 – I linked a good picture of what I was talking about to my name. Let me know if it makes sense. This is part of what I do for a living and want to make sure you get what I was saying.

    There is a technique called the Graston Technique that uses stainless steel instruments to treat issues like plantar fascitis with extremely good results.

  206. Pollyanna "Porkchop" Pough May 29th, 2007 at 9:30 pm

    ladies and gentlemen, i present to you the as of yet dormant fury. jeter and posada are releasing the rage and totally flipping out.

    2007 yankees:brotherhood of the fist

  207. Russell W May 29th, 2007 at 9:30 pm

    “It’s nice Toronto is having such a terrible night in the field…If it wasn’t for their errors, we wouldn’t have mounted any rallies tonight so far!”

    All of the Toronto runs started with errors also. Just shouldnt be so close with Pettitte pitching against this no-name.

  208. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 9:31 pm

    Not me Dave, I am glad Andy is back.

    He is a class act and I will take him over Randy Johnson for this team anytime.

    If he had the run support Johnson had in NY, he would have 8 wins this year.

    I really hope he exercises his option and comes back next year. He can still pitch and this team needs him in 2008.

  209. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:32 pm

    Oh my god…An offensive EXPLOSION!!!

  210. Stephen May 29th, 2007 at 9:32 pm

    The only thing more depressing than watching this sputtering team is the idea that you’re not a fan unless you sugarcoat every play/player/game.

    We’re all Yankee fans here (well, most of us). And it pains us to watch what’s happening this season. Remarking on their terrible play DOES NOT preclude us from being fans!

  211. Pollyanna "Porkchop" Pough May 29th, 2007 at 9:32 pm

    jason giambi is my cannibal. release the fury, jason.

  212. Russell W May 29th, 2007 at 9:33 pm

    “I can’t believe Torre didn’t run out there and scream. Not a very good way to show support for his guys.”

    Torre fell asleep. It takes a while for the cells to get to the head.

  213. Redsox are Devil May 29th, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    Arod’s so dumb who didn’t help Andy called the baserunner out.. Also, He make careless error..

  214. Russell W May 29th, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    If we didn’t have Andy and instead we had Randy Johnson, could you imagine what it would have been like with the rotation: Pavano, Johnson, Igawa, Rasner, DeSalvo

  215. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:35 pm

    SJ44 – Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice having Andy back. I was just hoping (and expecting) that we could erase the bad experience he had pitching in Houston with zero run support. You’re right, he should have 8 wins already this year…and that’s why it’s such a travesty.

  216. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:36 pm

    Ahh…Bobby Abreu…Mr. Clutch himself!!! Just at the right time, too!

  217. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    Can we trade Bobby alredy. i am so sick of him.

  218. RIP 2007 Season May 29th, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    Giambi K followed by a rally-killing groundout by Abreu. Anyone shocked?

  219. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 9:37 pm

    Doesn’t it seem like no matter where he hits he is always up in a big spot? Next stop hitting 10th.

  220. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    thanks sj44- the toronto feed camera angle looked like he was not in his box. but it wasn’t a clear view.
    i’d drill him anyway next time up just in case.
    i’d also drill the guy who stole home.
    and then i’d drill someone else just for fun
    i’d put in viscaino or farnsworth so it wouldn’t look like he was hitting anyone on purpose.

  221. James Nordon May 29th, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    A lament for the Abreu of 2006. Where have you gone?

    He looks utterly horrible out there.

  222. Sam May 29th, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    Two runs in two innings — it’s an offensive explosion!!

  223. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:40 pm

    The Yanks should just eat the salary and cut Abreu NOW…Seriously!!! He is dead weight…

  224. Dr. Acula May 29th, 2007 at 9:41 pm

    Aboo-boo is hitting .208 in May. Gawd know how many he’s left on base and how many times he was the rally killin’ 3rd out.

  225. donnie baseball May 29th, 2007 at 9:41 pm

    how many balls go over matsui’s head in a season? (im sorry, we need to kick them while they are down)

  226. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 9:41 pm

    Why didn’t he let that roll foul?

  227. PooNani May 29th, 2007 at 9:42 pm

    torre just bought his ticket out of town if this inning doesnt go right

  228. BBFan May 29th, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    Do we really want Proctor now?
    Bruney might have been a better option.

  229. Sam May 29th, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    That bunt was definitely going foul — that wasn’t too bright on ARod’s part.

    Meanwhile, it’s Proctor Time! FEEL THE PROCTOR!!

  230. Terry NH May 29th, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    “Ohhhh God” Proctor is coming in a big situation !! Could this be another defining Torre move?

  231. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    Rule 6.05 (k)
    (k) In running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball is being fielded to first base, he runs outside (to the right of) the three-foot line, or inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpire’s judgment in so doing interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base, in which case the ball is dead; except that he may run outside (to the right of) the threefoot line or inside (to the left of) the foul line to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball;
    _Comment: The lines marking the three-foot lane are a part of that lane and a batter- runner is required to have both feet within the three-foot lane or on the lines marking the lane. The batter-runner is permitted to exit the three-foot lane by means of a step, stride, reach or slide in the immediate vicinity of first base for the sole purpose of touching first base_

  232. RIP 2007 Season May 29th, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    I can’t stand Matsui, Giambi, and Abreu anymore. Not at all. I can’t even look at them they play so bad and make me feel like punching myself in the eye.

    Giambi is now a one trick pony and not even getting that job done.

    Abreu and Matsui can no longer play the OF. They look old, overmatched, and slow. Neither can hit anymore either.

    To some degree I resent Damon too. What happened to that gritty player? The one who could hit and take walks? The one who didn’t limp and throw like a middle school softball player? He looks like a shriveled up old man now and has more fat than muscle.

    This is simply terrible.

  233. Chuck May 29th, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    From MLB rules: “Offensive interference is an act by the team at bat which interferes with, obstructs, impedes, hinders or confuses any fielder attempting to make a play. If the umpire declares the batter, batter runner, or a runner out for interference, all other runners shall return to the last base that was in the judgment of the umpire, legally touched at the time of the interference, unless otherwise provided by these rules. In the event the batter runner has not reached first base, all runners shall return to the base last occupied at the time of the pitch.”

    Now I don’t have the umpire manual, but I understand that goes into far more detail. The runner is to run in fould territory between the lines… if we only had a collision here, I wouldn’t complain — but we have more! Phillips SHOVED Phelps. That is clearly not allowed at first base.

  234. Neil May 29th, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    Wow ARod how could you not let that roll foul. Then you have the audacity to shake your head like “good for me, what a nice play by me” that will probably turn out to be the run that makes it 3-2 and you single-handedly made the game turn for 2-1 Yanks to 3-2 Jays

  235. David May 29th, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    Um, where is Brian Bruney?

    Proctor??!!

  236. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:45 pm

    Torre obviously believes that Proctor gives him the best chance of striking a guy out (which is what they need in this situation).

  237. David May 29th, 2007 at 9:45 pm

    Why does Torre hate Bruney?

  238. RIP 2007 Season May 29th, 2007 at 9:46 pm

    Did Torre just buy his ticket out of town? Will he buy my tickets to the Mets-Yankees game since it will be painfully embarrassing?

  239. Brian Bruney May 29th, 2007 at 9:46 pm

    Just chillen, workin on my illin.

    Wish I could pitch in a big situation, but papa won’t let me.

  240. UNCYankee May 29th, 2007 at 9:46 pm

    Even if he lets it go foul, the guy probably would have gotten it down on the next pitch.

  241. Stephen May 29th, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    Granted, Abreu has been terrible so far this season.

    However, he has a lifetime .300BA/.409OBP. To call him dead weight after 1/3 of one season is too harsh.

  242. Neil May 29th, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    Nice cupcake Damon

  243. BBFan May 29th, 2007 at 9:47 pm

    Proctor’s ERA is good except that he let’s every inherited runner to score.

  244. Jeff NJ May 29th, 2007 at 9:48 pm

    Rip, um Giambi hit a HR tonight.

    I don’t want to hear any ripping of Damon’s arm on that one, no center fielder in histroy could have gotten the runner there.

  245. Rocco May 29th, 2007 at 9:48 pm

    That was pretty deep to center… i dont think anyone would have thrown them out at the plate. Don’t blame Damon on that.

  246. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:48 pm

    And so Andy loses another well-pitched game…

  247. Taylor May 29th, 2007 at 9:48 pm

    When you need a strikeout, that’s when you use Bruney. Not Proctor. This isn’t rocket science.

  248. UGH May 29th, 2007 at 9:48 pm

    Proctor couldn’t strikeout a teeball player. Just like Vizcaino can’t get a DP but Torre believes he can. Torre has Alzheimer’s and has lost it.

    Hey Joe, this isn’t 1998. We don’t have anyone to turn to so just DON’T.

  249. Dr. Acula May 29th, 2007 at 9:48 pm

    whaaa? Proctor can’t get hitters to ground out, only fly out???

  250. Pollyanna "Porkchop" Pough May 29th, 2007 at 9:49 pm

    yankee fans and friends do not despair if we lose this game. it just further feeds the fury of clemens and fans the rage of the yankees when they decide to unleash it in july. you will see.

    the fist of clemens tightens with each loss.

  251. Asst Manager May 29th, 2007 at 9:49 pm

    This team is terrible. What does it take to fire a manager now? Will Torre have to lose 15 in a row?

  252. BBFan May 29th, 2007 at 9:49 pm

    We still have another inning to win, if we want to win….

  253. Neil May 29th, 2007 at 9:49 pm

    atleast they look they care about loosing today. (SIGH)

  254. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 9:49 pm

    Its hard to bang on Torre for putting Proctor in the game.

    Rios is 0-7 lifetime against Proctor. He missed the target and got the ball up. Jorge wanted it down, Proctor got it up, got the out, but it was a SF.

    What can you do? Its been that type of year for the Yankees.

    Its not like this team has a history of winning 3-2 games the last 4 years. It would be nice if this offense actually showed up once in a while.

  255. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 9:49 pm

    Okay Pete…we all get your latest post

    Proctor was sick
    No faith in Farnsy
    Too early for Mo

    Hmm…who else is there….oh yeah Bruney w/a .158 BAA and 1.57 ERA!!

  256. Chris NY May 29th, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    When will the Yankees issue a public apology to Andy Pettitte and an apology in advance to Roger Clemens for not producing the run support they used to lure them back to NY?

    Bait, switch.
    Bait, switch.

    Suckers.

  257. UNCYankee May 29th, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    Why would you bring in Proctor there when you definitely don’t need a fly ball? And then on the 3-2 pitch he throws a high pitch that is tailor made for a fly ball. He is better off walking him in that situation.

  258. Drew May 29th, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    Where the hell was Bruney? This is getting sickening.

  259. Rocco May 29th, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    Um did i just see proctor pull a Kevin Brown and punch the wall?

  260. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    Clemens is probably on the phone with the Hendricks boys right now feverishly trying to figure out how he can get out of his deal…

  261. David May 29th, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    Friggin Scott Proctor. Dammit.

    Poor Andy, he’s pitching so great this year and he can’t get a win.

  262. Asst Manager May 29th, 2007 at 9:52 pm

    This team is wasting career years from A Rod, Posada, Jeter and Pettitte.

    Its not a hard fix.

    You get a 1b who can hit and play the field. You do know they actually are out there and alive!

    Clemens comes back. Hughes gets healthy by July.

    We need a power rat hand bat.
    That Sheffield guy is starting to rake huh?

  263. Yeah May 29th, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    this is as bad as it gets

  264. Brian (Red Sox Fan) May 29th, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    Randy 1 …. I’m not alone in feeling that ARod is a real wuss. Having said that, I’m not trying to goad you. He does rub a lot of people the wrong way (including Jeter).

  265. enough is enough May 29th, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    how does torre not get fired?

  266. Rufus May 29th, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    You can not bash Proctor for allowing a fly ball there. Not like he gave up a hit or anything.

    You cant someone get to 2nd with no outs in the 8th is the real thing.

  267. David May 29th, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    It’s unfair that Andy will get the loss and not Proctor. Andy doesn’t deserve this.

  268. James Nordon May 29th, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    at least tampa is losing…so they wont pull ahead if we cant pull this one out

  269. Rufus May 29th, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    Again Brian Red Sox Loser, why do you post here? They kick you off all the red sox blogs?

    I cannot see how boring your life must be if you’re on Yankee blogs during gamedays. I just cant fathom how depressing that is.

  270. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    big steve-
    keep posting here. we can use your expertise. are you familiar with Pavel Tsatsouline stretching program?

  271. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    At least Scott showed some fire, which is more than I can say about the rest of the team. Poor Andy is going to be handed another loss. I hope he explodes on the team.

  272. Jeff NJ May 29th, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    unreal. eom

  273. Rocco May 29th, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    depressing

  274. Erick May 29th, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    I was all for getting Abreus option at the beginning of the year. Not so much anymore.

    It’s starting to look like the Yanks should make a run at Ichiro or Jones (if he comes back to life) to play center. Switch Damon to the corner, not pick-up Abreu and rely on Cabrera as a backup again I guess.

  275. jerkface May 29th, 2007 at 9:55 pm

    F FAITH in FARNSWORTH or MO

    BRING IN BRIAN BRUNEY

    .500 OPS AGAINST, 9 K/9, a .1 BETTER GROUND OUT/FLY OUT RATIO THAN PROCTOR.

    FARHGHHGhfdgfgj

  276. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:56 pm

    Damon doesn’t even take a single pitch! What a joke… Obviously he had better places to be…

  277. Chris NY May 29th, 2007 at 9:56 pm

    You must be kidding me. 13 starts, mid 2 ERA, and a 3-4 record.

    I know I for one, am sorry Andy. This is pathetic.

  278. Johnny B May 29th, 2007 at 9:56 pm

    Thanks Joe for a great 11 plus years

  279. David May 29th, 2007 at 9:57 pm

    Disgrace. What an absolute disgrace.

  280. Matt May 29th, 2007 at 9:57 pm

    Well, that was a shock.

  281. UGH May 29th, 2007 at 9:58 pm

    It’s not that I can’t handle a losing team. I know teams need to lose before they can dominate but I’m angry with this team officially now for two reasons: 1) They paid $200 million for this mess and 2) They were supposed to be a contender again of course but now they aren’t even close. That makes me hate them. I can’t ever really hate them, I know it’s just irrational sports rage but they are truly an ugly sight to see.

  282. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 9:58 pm

    Trade Andy to a team that can win (I love him, he doesn’t deserve this)
    trade Bobby, he flat out stinks this year, he isn’t owed alot of money, maybe we can just get rid of him
    Trade Farnsworth… nothing to be said
    Trade Jason… eat the entire contract, we need flexiblity on this team and we have none.

  283. Big Steve May 29th, 2007 at 9:58 pm

    randy – the naked warrior is one of the best books on bodyweight exercise. I have been to many seminars and seen Pavel speak quite often. He takes himself pretty serious, but I have had the chance to speak with him a few times about the entire Russian training system. I’m no expert, just a life long student of human anatomy, physiology, and biomechanics.

  284. David May 29th, 2007 at 9:58 pm

    Proctor was friggin sick yesterday!!

    Farnsworth is paid how much to sit on the bench??

    Cripes!!!

  285. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 9:58 pm

    If the Yanks get swept again tomorrow and George doesn’t fire somebody…Well, then I know he’s actually dead…It’s just an imposter walking around posing as him.

  286. UNCYankee May 29th, 2007 at 9:59 pm

    I have not been one to blame Joe, but to bring in a fly ball pitcher coming off of a stomach virus with a man on 3rd is stupid.

  287. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 9:59 pm

    Oh and fire Joe and Kevin long.

  288. Johnny B May 29th, 2007 at 9:59 pm

    Torre won’t be managing the team in Boston.

  289. James Nordon May 29th, 2007 at 9:59 pm

    I wish Cashman would do something to shake things up. This has the potential to start spinning way out of control.

  290. skisan May 29th, 2007 at 9:59 pm

    Okay. I’m finally on board for firing Torre NOW! How in hell’s name does he think Proctor gives him a better shot at a strike out than Bruney? That should be the last straw. Not that whoever replaces him will turn this around, but he just doesn’t deserve the privilege of managing the Yankees anymore. Sad.

  291. UGH May 29th, 2007 at 10:00 pm

    If they played their best and lost in the end, it happens. I just cannot handle them putting in this kind of effort. No reason half the team should be hitting .240. A group of underachievers is just pitiful.

  292. jay destro May 29th, 2007 at 10:00 pm

    yeah im done with joe.

  293. AnatInc May 29th, 2007 at 10:00 pm

    RIP, managerial career of Joseph Torre (April 1996-May 2007)

    Cause of death: offensive anemia and third degrees burns inflicted by exploding bullpen

  294. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 10:00 pm

    Joe doesn’t know the name Brian Bruney. Brian is a strike out pitcher and like you said Scott was Ill yesterday. At least he showed some anger about what happened unlike the rest of the team.

  295. Matt May 29th, 2007 at 10:00 pm

    James, I suspect Cashman will trade Mussina for a back up catcher and Pettitte for a 6ht outfielder and middle reliever.

  296. kidjock May 29th, 2007 at 10:01 pm

    Wow. What a week. I don’t know what to say.

  297. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 10:01 pm

    What a 9th inning. Phelps takes two pitches down the middle of the plate, then swings at a ball in the dirt for strike three. Cano, as he has done all year, swings at ball 3 in the dirt, and gets himself out with another pitch out of the strike zone. He hasn’t stopped swinging at pitches out of the strike zone all year and has turned himself into an automatic out. Its amazing that he can’t see that.

    Damon? Why work a count when you can swing at the first pitch and end the game.

    Its one thing to lose. Its another thing to not compete. This team, with VERY few exceptions, no longer competes. They just roll over every night.

    Instead of team meetings and infield practice, maybe they should show this team DVD’s of the Dynasty Teams. Perhaps they will learn how to compete more than once every 15 or 20 games.

    A complete embarrassment of a baseball team. The softest Yankee team since the 80′s. Lots of millionaires, no gamers.

  298. Super Duper Yankee Fan May 29th, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    All of you are so hiliarious! Thanks for the laughs, Folks.

  299. Erick May 29th, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    Jennifer, I agree, there shour be some exploding going on from the guys that are looked upon to provide leadership. This might be a veterans team, but they still have the guys they for leadership.

    I know Jeter is the lead by example, quite kind of guy. But he has to change that MO this year.

  300. Sam May 29th, 2007 at 10:03 pm

    Red Sox win 4-2 — Yankees are now 14 1/2 games out of first place. What a train wreck this team is.

  301. Terry NH May 29th, 2007 at 10:04 pm

    Could this get any lower than it is right now? Steal of home to win the game. Completely sickening!!!

  302. Yanks fan in Cincy May 29th, 2007 at 10:04 pm

    This just stinks. We can all throw out trade scenerios or whatever, but call this spade a spade. The yanks are tired and old. “They” keep saying its a long season. But the season is quickly dwindling, and nothing seems to working. Though i only watch the games when they are on espn, i feel there is no passion. It seems as if thi s has become a job a passion to be the best. Baseball is not basketball, you cannot “take it easy” through the regular seahson and come on in the playoffs. Its probably not Cashmans fault, nor Torre, nor Gator and so on. But this is a team! Sometimes the team needs a reality check. The way i see it, its two options. That check come in the form of droping 20 back or fire some people who matter. Though fear is not the best motivater, it certainly can obtain results. (just ask my boss)

  303. Jeff NJ May 29th, 2007 at 10:05 pm

    Proctor is a strikeout pitcher, I don’t have a problem with him there. Biggest problems in this game were obviously no offense yet again and allowing the steal of home, that was a disaster.

    I was thinking about the All Star game, I think we will have the 3 obvious ones, A Rod, Jeter and Jorge. I also think Andy Pettitte might be worthy of a spot even though his record doesn’t indicate it. Who am I forgetting? Oh and here is a super annoying thought, looks like Joe won’t be managing the AL All star game to be played at the Stadium in 08, might be Terry (not Hatcher) Francona.

  304. Angel May 29th, 2007 at 10:05 pm

    Hysterical much?

  305. Keith May 29th, 2007 at 10:05 pm

    Fire Torre now…it should have been done after the Tigers series in the playoffs…this team doesn’t respond to him anymore…I want to start building towards next year, this season is over, forget any comeback ideas…..become sellers on the trade market…we can’t make the playoffs every year, not if we want to win another WS….hire Bobby Valentine, see if he’ll keep Mattingly as his bench coach to learn from another type of manager….his style should work for 3-4 years and Mattingly will be ready…again lets build for next year and get Valentine in now if he can get out of Japan…get some guys who are not big name superstars to play here…..change the culture and atmosphere of this team…as fans we need to learn to handle a losing, non-playoff season, we’ll be better in the long run for it……thanks Torre but its time for you to go to Hawaii, you had a great run, you were/are well paid…now it is time to move on….

  306. Chris NY May 29th, 2007 at 10:06 pm

    “The softest Yankee team since the 80’s. Lots of
    millionaires, no gamers.”

    SJ, I wouldn’t go that far. I think Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, and Mo would take issue with the “NO” part of that statement. Hmmm, is it a coincidence that they’re the only 4 from the championship teams?

  307. jennifer May 29th, 2007 at 10:06 pm

    I am just at a loss for words watching this. All the Yankee fans in my office, we just look at each other and shake our heads, we don’t know what to say to each other. I wish someone would explode on this team tonight. The only one I could really see doing it is Jorge. HE is a firey guy.

  308. not -Torre -hater May 29th, 2007 at 10:07 pm

    I think Torre should proclaim a resigning right away just to give the team some fire to fight.There is not a thing for this club to turn things around,need something to make the turning point.

  309. AO May 29th, 2007 at 10:07 pm

    Give me the Yankees contact information so I can call and request for me to manage

  310. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 10:09 pm

    brian( red sox fan)-
    you just said on this yankee blog that” I’m not alone in feeling that ARod is a real wuss”.
    is everyone reading this crap from a red sox troll?
    do you all still think he’s nice red sox fan?
    he’s an #$%$#.
    it always amuses me when soemone talks smack from an anonymous username. what are you afraid of brian? would your law firm firm fire you if they found out you were on a yankee blog while you were supposed to be billing clients.
    it also amuses me how a know it all non athlete(i can tell from the way you tried to talk about hitting) calls someone like arod a”wuus”. arod would rip you a new #$#$##^$ if he ever got into it with you. you’re nothing but a know it all troll who’s too much of a coward to let the world see who he really is.
    but besides all that you seem like a pretty nice guy.

  311. BBFan May 29th, 2007 at 10:09 pm

    We have hit rock bottom today. Stealing home has got to be it.

    Things will start brightening from tomorrow.
    We will win tomorrow.
    And then we will take 2 out of 3 from Boston and build from there.

    Also, do not feel miserable with these losses. There are more important things in life and look at brighter side of things.

  312. UGH May 29th, 2007 at 10:10 pm

    Proctor doesn’t strike batters out.

  313. AnatInc May 29th, 2007 at 10:12 pm

    I’m working off memory from something I saw off ESPNews earlier this evening, but I believe the team is now 7-15 since Clemens announced his return.

    It was a great run, but the bill has come due – it’s time to think about rebuilding, and Joe isn’t the guy for that process.

  314. JRVJ May 29th, 2007 at 10:13 pm

    Peter (and the rest of the gang),

    I’ve been so numb from the play of the Yanks, that I have not been posting much.

    Like all Yankee fans, I am terribly depressed about what’s happening.

    But more than anything else, I deeply lament the passing of the George Steimbrenner that we once knew.

    The George Steimbrenner that we all knew in the past would have canned Torre and Cashman by now, and would have traded away SOMEBODY.

    Those moves may not have fixed the problems with the 2007 Yankees, but at the very least could give hope that 2008 will be different.

  315. Jeff May 29th, 2007 at 10:14 pm

    Fire Torre now. Please George. Please.

  316. Jeff NJ May 29th, 2007 at 10:14 pm

    BB, it is hard to feel too bad about this. Like the players, we as fans are getting used to losing. It is pretty sad, but I feel nothing.

    It some respects, it’s refreshing to not have any expectations anymore, that is despite the payroll which I’m sure Lupica and Steve Phillips have mentioned in the past.

    It’s a lost season, but it’s not our fault, we’re good fans, we watch and write about every game, we tape the games we are out for, we plan our schedules around games. Anyway, consider yourself free of the Yankee burden, it is on the players and the players alone.

  317. Super Duper Yankee Fan May 29th, 2007 at 10:16 pm

    Britney: “I hit rock bottom.”
    Yankees: “Us, too, Brit.”

  318. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 10:17 pm

    At this point, although it may be nothing more than just a token move and not have much bearing on the season, it may be best for Joe to resign. If he refuses, they may have to fire him. Even though George probably hates the idea of paying him all that money to sit on the beach in Hawaii.

    At some point, they have to do something. There is 112 games remaining in the season. They are 21-29. That’s pathetic. No other way to say it. They won’t be going to the playoffs but, you can’t lose every single night in different fashion, look DEAD, as they have all year, and not do something.

    You still have to play out the rest of the season and try to LOOK like a baseball team.

    Its almost as if this team is begging to be put out of its misery. Too many games left to not do something.

    Its pathetic to watch how so few guys compete every night. That’s what ticks me off more than anything else.

    What happened to working counts? Is that now on the banned substance list? Every guy just wastes at bats every night. Its terrible.

    You just wonder what’s really going on behind the scenes. If we, as novices see this, and guys like Tino, O’Neill and Girardi, all of whom have ripped this team in the past two weeks, see it, you have to believe the powers that be with the Yankees see the same thing.

    There are so many problems with this team, they almost don’t have a choice but to fire Torre. If, for no other reason, than to show the players there are consequences for their pathetic level of play.

    How can they go the rest of the way and do nothing? At this point, one would think that would be impossible.

  319. skisan May 29th, 2007 at 10:17 pm

    Jeff NJ -

    Proctor 25.1 IP 15 SO
    Bruney 23 IP 23 SO

    Joe has GOT to go w/ Bruney in that situation. But since he didn’t use Proctor yesterday, I guess he felt compelled to get him into tonight’s game.

  320. Terry NH May 29th, 2007 at 10:18 pm

    I know Torre’s brother Frank has been ill, but is this coincidence that his managing skills have deteoriated since Frank’s illness? I hope not, but maybe his mind is on other things beside baseball. If so, there needs to be some sort of closure and injectionn into this team and it needs to happen now!!

  321. heyheyhey May 29th, 2007 at 10:18 pm

    I have lost all hope.
    All of it.

    I am DONE with this season and this team. I’ll tune in next season when we can get a *#&*%$&% win.

    Jeter, Posada, Wang, Pettitte, and AROD deserve better. much better.

  322. Brian C May 29th, 2007 at 10:19 pm

    Wow, is Cash money totally asleep at the wheel? why wasn’t Desalvo designated for assigment today. We have clippard for tomorrow, Wang, Petitte, Moose for Boston and Rodger for next Monday. why don’t we get a warm body up here from scranton? Say, Kevin Thompson. I would put him in left field for Abreu. They should also cut bait with some other dead wood — let call up Phillips, Shelly Duncan, Edwar Ramirez and Britton, alberto gonzalez and get some people up here who can still for a mirror. Farnsworth, Myers, Minky, Cairo, Phelps, etc, etc are not needed at this point.

  323. Brian C May 29th, 2007 at 10:21 pm

    “I know Torre’s brother Frank has been ill, but is this coincidence that his managing skills have deteoriated since Frank’s illness? I hope not, but maybe his mind is on other things beside baseball. If so, there needs to be some sort of closure and injectionn into this team and it needs to happen now!!”

    Joe Torre’s lack of in game management skills have been on display since at least 2003. His putting in Jeff Weaver in extra innings in game 4 of the WS was an eye-opener for me. Since that moment this team has never looked back.

  324. Will May 29th, 2007 at 10:21 pm

    All anger and emotion aside, I think Cashman needs to sit down with Joe and convince him to resign. Maybe, just maybe, that will relieve the pressure on this team and allow them to just go out and play. There is no practical way to reform the roster, so changing the manager is the only option. It might be a shot in the dark, but it’s time to fire it. Joe has had a good run; now it’s time for him to step aside and see if a new voice will get through.

  325. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 10:22 pm

    SJ44 – I could very easily see the Yanks make no moves (firing Torre, etc., etc.) the rest of the way. Why? Because the Steinbrenner boys (rather than their frail old dad) are running things now, and they love Brian Cashman, and Cashman, in turn, will support Torre no matter what…so things could very well remain just as they are.

    Besides, for Cashman to make any moves is to admit he made mistakes to begin with…which I think he is very reluctant to do.

  326. Stuart May 29th, 2007 at 10:22 pm

    the old George has created this inevitable problem. You cannot win every year. moves like ; Giambi, RJ, Kevin Brown, SHeff, and quite a few other steinbrenner big name signings have led to this. the until the last year or so completely barren minor league system and 1 dimensional(usally slugger) and me type of players..

    you people are so stupid you do not even see steinbrener rand the tampa consigliare’s finger prints…..

    they delayed this last year and the yr before bacause of aaron small and chacon but know nothing is going right and they are not battling.

    arod career year!!!!what are you talking about, his #’s are pretty good but not remotely career and he has been on vacation all of May…

    the guy is hitting high 290′s is that a career year???

    THey do nothing right, they are so unclutch and soft it is amazing…..

  327. Captain541 May 29th, 2007 at 10:22 pm

    Yet another Torre loss. He brings in Phelps to pinch hit and then he has to play 1st base. Before the inning started I said please do not bring in Phelps and then you have to take out Minkys glove, so it was not second guessing. Especially in a tied game that is the last thing you want is Phelps glove at 1st base. He is a worst 1st baseman then Giambi and the worst I have ever seen. It was a bad throw but anyone else maybe even Giambi would of had the ball.

    Then with the runner on 3rd you need a strike out…so wouldnt you bring in your best strike out pitcher Bruney?? Nope he brings in his boyfriend. Once it got to 3-2 he should of just walked him and went after the next batter. Ofcourse not he throws the easiest pitch to hit to the outfield. Every pitch is down then he throws a high fastball. Clueless would rather lose games with Proctor then go with his best pitcher, in that situation.

    When is the shuttle bus coming to pick up Melky and Cano to take them to AAA? Melky and his little slap swing is totally over matched. At this point he is a little bit better version of Bubba Crosby. Cano is another story. When is someone going to finally teach him the strike zone and not let him swing at everything in sight and make out immediately. If they dont teach him now then he will never ever learn. Send him to the minors and let him learn the strike zone and work on his ADD. A young player should always have to earn the right to play in the majors and he hasnt earned a single thing. He had 1 good year and got totally cocky and it went way over his head.

    Moves that should be made…Cano and Melky to the minors until they get things right. Bring up Kevin Thompson and sign Todd Walker. Then release Myers and bring up Britton.

  328. Samurai May 29th, 2007 at 10:22 pm

    Valentine is happy and content in Japan. Pipe-dream, Keith.

  329. BBFan May 29th, 2007 at 10:24 pm

    We can not have it both ways.

    If they take pitches we complain they are passive.
    If they swing at pitches early, we complain they are not patient.

    The problem is lately the opposing teams are executing better against Yankee offense. Their pateince has become thier weakness. Opposing pitchers are throwing strikes on first pitches and our batsmen are on the defensive from the beginning. When they swing at first pitches they are not doing a good job of it.

    It has become a vicious cycle. But it will send sooner or later.

  330. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 10:24 pm

    big steve-
    i could tell you knew what you’re talking about.
    i’ve been doing the pistols and the one arm one foot pushups that pavel advocates for a few years( no big deal, anyone can do them if they try). if you want to discuss this further,click on my username, and under my profile you’ll find my email address. i’ve been curious how pavel’s approach would work with baseball. i had a conversation with a triple a trainer who was leery about the contract-relax stretching, but he didn’t know much about it? what’s your opinion on it for baseball. would it help with players like giambi and damon and preventing all the hamstring injuries like the ones to wang, mussina,hughes, and matsui?

  331. Stuart May 29th, 2007 at 10:26 pm

    they brought in Phelps to pinch hit and he got a hit…

    that was not a bad move under any circumstances, give it a friggin rest…

    they suck, torre does not hit or pitch… he has lost about 3 games this year for them… they would still stink…Players play the game…..how about Arod hitting a 3 run homer!!!!!Or someone else come thru???Just a concept or question Torre hit and running in the 2nd or some other BS reason…..

  332. Mike V. May 29th, 2007 at 10:27 pm

    This is my first comment on the Yanks blog…and finally I have had it.

    I was at the game Sunday when Proctor failed. Tonight, he has to go for the strike out and not let the sac fly beat us.

    And what is Torre thinking? Again, Mo sits and rots in the pen. Sometimes the most important outs of a game are not in the ninth inning. We all said Saturday that 1)Mussina should have pitched to another batter and that 2) Mo should have been in if Mussina was taken out because those were the important outs in that game. Tonight, the important outs were right there. Keep the guy on third from scoring. If Mo fails to do it, then you at least fail with your best. But, no, our best again doesn’t see action.

    They, including the coaches/manager, are clueless. They look like walking zombies. Can’t move runners and I lost count how many times in the last week we have had a leadoff hitter on first or second and failed to move him one base.

    The needed to go minimum 6-3 against the Mets, Sox, Angels, and failed. They needed 2 of 3 in Toronto and failed. I think something needs to be done to shake the malaise, even if it means dumping a player like Abreau and sticking Melky in full time. Someone needs to send a message.

  333. Bronx May 29th, 2007 at 10:29 pm

    wow. 14.5 out. The finl nails will be hammered into the Yankees coffin this weekend in Boston. What a hoorible team.

  334. Drew May 29th, 2007 at 10:31 pm

    Bruney’s K/9 is 9.00. Proctor’s is a 5.47. ‘Nuff said.

  335. Drew May 29th, 2007 at 10:32 pm

    Stop worrying about Boston. We have no chance to catch them. Worry about Detroit. However, pretty soon, that deficit will be 14.5 too.

  336. asburyboss May 29th, 2007 at 10:33 pm

    the Yankees showed heart and guts when they rallied in the 8th to tie it on 2 errors, and a flare…wtf?

    something, whatever it is that attaches the brain tot he central nervous system has to be defective to just sit and watch this…

    DL Damon (60-day if you must)
    DL Giambi (amputate that effing foot)
    DFA Abreu
    send Phelps back to Baltimore

    call up Kevin Thompson, Andy Phillips and Shelley Duncan…enough already. CDant wait to get Pete’s audio from Joe- something about how he liked the “fight” in his team and “nobody is giving up” and we “gotta turn this around”

    is there Sleep-EZ in that tea?

  337. The Yanks should let A-Rod walk after 2007 May 29th, 2007 at 10:34 pm

    Well all you A-Rod defenders, you just saw what A-Rod was made of tonight: NOTHING.

    He showed his true chokeartist colors by:

    1. Hurrying a throw to 1B with the CATCHER Jason Phillips running for a throwing error which extended the inning the Blue Jays took the lead 2-1.

    2. Not paying attention to Hill i.e. his lead at 3B.

    3. Not alerting Pettitte of this lead or Hill taking off.

    4. Not letting the ball roll foul which it clearly showed in real time and on closeup slowmo instant replay. This fourth brainlock at 3B of his tonight allowed the go-ahead and winning run to score.

    I can’t recall Scott Brosius being so bad even in one game.

    It’s plain to see A-Rod doesn’t have the mental makeup to play for the Yankees, so I say be done with him after this year. He’s reverted back to his great-ehhh-great-ehhh form, enough is enough. He really is Mr.April.

    The best thing the Yanks could do after this year is get back to basics with some Yankee farm system players as follows:

    1. Sign Mike Lowell to a one-year $6M contract for 3B.

    2. Reacquire Nick Johnson for 1B (he’d cost only $11M, $5.5M/yr. for 2008-9). He’d be only 30 years old next year.

    3. Start Cabrera in CF for $500K, Kevin Thompson in LF for $400K, and Matsui at DH (release Damon and Giambi).

    4. Sign Jermaine Dye to a one-year $7M contract for RF.

    5. Sign Jose Molina for backup catcher, Chris Woodward for backup 2B, 3B, and SS, Darrin Erstad for backup 1B and CF,
    and Jason Michaels for backup OF (he could get some at-bats in RF if Thompson struggles) for a year and a mil each (total cost of the bench: $4M).

    Cabrera/Jeter/Johnson/Dye/Matsui/Lowell/Posada/Cano/Thompson
    S R L R L R S L R

    7/9ths farm system and one guy who never played in M.L.B. prior to the Yanks (Matsui). The 2005 World Series M.V.P., a winner, in RF.

    Cabrera, Thompson, and Cano would cost so little, they’d offset the money eaten releasing Giambi and Damon.

    Let Cabrera and Thompson play. Worse-case scenario, the Yanks have to trade for an OF to take over from one of them,
    I think one of them would do well enough to keep his job.

  338. BBFan May 29th, 2007 at 10:35 pm

    You really think if Mo was brought in instead of Proctor the run would not have scored? Common guys, wake up. Mo is not strikeout pitcher this year. In fact, Proctor is a better strikeout pitcher. Bruney was the best opton at that time. Even Kyle would have been better (I am sure many of you will disagree with it, but it would have been a better percentage move).

  339. Mike V. May 29th, 2007 at 10:36 pm

    I’ll add one more point — why Proctor and not Bruney if he didn’t want Mo in this early. Joe is so into making sure he gives guys roles, but the few pitchers who do well sit out.

    I am surprised I haven’t heard anything about getting rid of the batting coach, though that means nothing. Some players like Abreau, Proctor and Viscaino have to be made an example of.

    Someone has to shake it up a bit.

  340. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 10:38 pm

    14 1/2 games? i remember that number. that’s how far the yankees were back in the season when they beat the red sox in the bucky dent playoff game.
    this isn’t over folks. the yankees may not catch boston ,but the playoffs start at 0-0. all the yankees have to do is get there. never give in. never lose your edge.
    especially in times like this.

  341. Geoff May 29th, 2007 at 10:40 pm

    You let go of A-Rod and there’s a chance he could go to Boston (where A-Rod wanted to go in the first place but the players association would not let him take a voluntary paycut).
    I wouldn’t want to face a lineup with Youkilis/Ortiz/Manny/ARod/Drew if I were the Yankees. Why would you want to get rid of the best player on the team?

  342. BBFan May 29th, 2007 at 10:41 pm

    Randy,

    Are you the same Randy who was so negative yesterday?
    I agree it is not over yet.
    I think we hit rock bottom today.

  343. asburyboss May 29th, 2007 at 10:43 pm

    “The Yanks should let A-Rod walk after 2007″ are you really getting on AROD for not “holding a runner” at 3rd base? My God…no more calls please we have a winner!

    dumbest comment in almost 6+ years by my calculations. congrats.

  344. Marius May 29th, 2007 at 10:43 pm

    Yeah, it’s pretty much over for the Yanks.
    They just don’t have it this season at all. They are a dead team and there is no life in them whatsoever. Torre doesn’t seem to care.
    Watching his postgame interviews annoy me as he has a little smirk and says nothing.
    Maybe he is getting revenge on Steinbrenner.
    Go s@ck a D!ck Torre.
    I was part of the DON’T FIRE TORRE, but he needs to go and go now. Mattingly needs to be batting coach. Bowa is bench and Girardi is manager.

    Torre won’t yell or scold the Yankees. His safe at home thing and his abusive father stop him from coming down on the players.
    Torre has never left on his own merit from a managing job. He is always fired. FIRE TORRE!

    14 1/2 games back is a tough one. Not impossible, but the way the Red Sox are playing, just won’t happen.

    The Wild Card is possible, but not with this team playing the way they are. They just can’t overcome. Something drastic needs to happen and I know Steinbrenner isn’t a patient man and something will happen soon.

  345. Mike V. May 29th, 2007 at 10:43 pm

    Agree with you Randy, but it is hard to do when you see them clueless on the field. The above comments about A-Rod are dead on. I screamed at the TV on the bunt to let it go foul. We could all see it but he couldn’t and then did you see him make a face and mouth something to Posada.

    They do still have the chance for the wild card and you really don’t want to give up hope. But, fans need to see some jolt from the players, some excitement from the brain thrust. Hey, can Torre get angry once and yell at an ump and get thrown out for one of the bad calls in recent days. I just want to see someone show emotion – that they even care to wear the pinstripes.

  346. Mike May 29th, 2007 at 10:43 pm

    Myth: “We’re going to keep rearranging the furniture until we find something that works.”
    –Joe Torre, 5/28/07

    Reality: Same lineup (that’s not working); same bullpen go-to guys (that’s not working); same result (loss)

  347. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    cashman should have yelled from his private box that aaron hill was stealing home!!!
    that’s for you murhydog and sj44. i figured a little humor can’t hurt. it’s either laugh or cry right now.

  348. Drive 4-5 May 29th, 2007 at 10:48 pm

    I know Joe Torre doesn’t want to make it look like the umpires are an excuse ( there IS no excuse for this team), but Phillips was clearly out of the basepath and that most definitely was interference. But nobody argued and they went down wimpering. This team doesn’t lack bats, it lacks guts.

  349. Master Wangkee May 29th, 2007 at 10:49 pm

    Time for a firesale. The fans are ready.

  350. Erik in NJ May 29th, 2007 at 10:50 pm

    Here is another AAA player doing better down there then some guys up here….
    Chris Basak….He did very well in ST this past March,and is learning to play the OF.
    He plays SS,2B,and 3B.Bats Righty,which is something we need,and is starving to get back into the majors.
    Just a thought.Someone mentioned Eric Wordkemper before,he pitched in one game for AAA last year,and was on Charleston the rest of yr.
    I think the Canadian Police should arrest Luis Vizcaino for impersonating Felix Herendous and Felix Rodriguez!!

  351. randy l May 29th, 2007 at 10:51 pm

    bbfan-
    i’ve never been negative about the yankees getting the wild card. there’s some impostors that posted under my name. peter a took care of it.
    i’m not a fan of cashman being in 100% control, but i’m a fan of him doing every thing he can to help the yankees.
    this year is salvageable, but it’s going to take some fight.

  352. J Walter May 29th, 2007 at 10:51 pm

    I’m going to be at Fenway Friday night. What are the odds that I don’t get into a fight? Judging by my experiences with Boston fans, they actually define themselves more by their bitterness and hatred of the Yanks than they do their love of their team which is pretty sad, so I’m looking for a rough ride. Im considering bringing a roll of quarters with me ‘just in case’.

  353. Jeff NJ May 29th, 2007 at 10:55 pm

    “You know it’s getting to the point that I’m embarassed to tell anyone that I’m in Crime, the other day I told some guy I was a male nurse”

    Name that movie.

  354. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 10:56 pm

    Jeff NJ – LA Confidential? (total shot in the dark)

  355. SJ44 May 29th, 2007 at 10:57 pm

    lol@ Randy!

    That’s all you can do, man. In a real macabre kind of way, its funny to see what’s happening. Not funny, “ha ha” but, funny is a sick, “what the hell am I seeing” kind of way.

    EVERYTHING they try to do ends up being wrong. I’ve never seen anything like it. Nothing they do ends up going the way its supposed to go.

    What can you do? Tomorrow is another day and you just keep plugging.

    I do really love the ARod bashers coming back though. Yup, its all his fault. Amazing.

    “Bring back Nick Johnson”. That makes sense since he is out for the season with a shattered leg and his career is in doubt.

    Yup, that’s the move that would put us over the top.

    When you think about it though, it kind of makes sense. Let’s add another guy to this team that plays on one leg.

    We don’t have enough of them!

  356. jw May 29th, 2007 at 10:57 pm

    somebody wake me up from this nightmare

  357. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 10:59 pm

    I don’t think A-Rod is to blame…But I would be curious to know his cumulative stats since his “hot” start ended. Seems to me he’s been pretty darned cold since those few weeks in April…

  358. BJA May 29th, 2007 at 11:00 pm

    they need to change up the lineup. I would do this

    1. jeter
    2. matsui
    3. arod
    4. posada
    5. giambi

    then however you want to bat the rest of those bums…bat Damon ninth

  359. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 11:01 pm

    BTW – Any other Yanks fans from Chicago on here? If so, is anyone considering going to see Clemens pitch against the White Sox in just a few days’ time?

  360. UGH May 29th, 2007 at 11:02 pm

    Ugggggh, Boston wins and the Mets just won with a walkoff HR against Armando Benitez in the bottom of the 12th.

    All I’ve gotten to see this season is despair. I want to cry, throw up, and put my fist through a wall all at once.

  361. EricNS May 29th, 2007 at 11:02 pm

    Trade whoever can be traded – one thing Nick Johnson on one leg is better than Abreu on 2.

  362. Marius May 29th, 2007 at 11:02 pm

    There are now only 5 teams playing worse than the Yankees in all of the MLB.

    Yankees are a joke right now.
    I think Damon converted all of them to Buddhism as why they are so emotionless out there.

    Cashman is going to lose the control he fought to get. Expect to see stupid trades and the farm system depleted of talent for overpriced sluggers.

    Mets game just finished. Mets won with a HR off of Delgado in the 12th.
    Watching the Mets in the dugout is nice. They are having fun, interacting with each other and smiling, even when they were down a run.
    Yankees are all just stiff and emotionless.
    The one thing I hate about the Yankees is the WIN OR DIE attitude Steiny introduced. The business like atmosphere among the players. There needs to be a looser attitude in the clubhouse and dugout.

    A-Rod will leave after this year as he has no chance of furthering his own numbers with the Yankees.

  363. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 11:06 pm

    A-Rod will end up with the Angels, most likely. That’s my bet…

  364. Marius May 29th, 2007 at 11:06 pm

    13 of 20 lost since Clemens announced his return. Clemens is not the saviour, he is the curse.
    Yankees are dolts for not playing and waiting for Clemens to get here.

  365. Realist May 29th, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    You people need to stop making more of the AAA crap we have than is really there– i.e., Basak, Shelley Duncan, Phillips, Eric Duncan, other assorted scrubs. They just can’t hit big league pitching.

    Face it: we blew it in the draft the last several years. Outside of some of the pitching, we don’t have position prospects like other teams do. Just because the Yankees have a minor league roster doesn’t mean it’s even worth the paper it’s printed on. We just field a team like everyone else and plug in some pitching. That’s where the “prospects are”. As bad as Giambi, Damon, Abreu, and Matsui have been and I can’t even take them right now, it will be so much worse if some of these AAA people are called up.

    We don’t currently have anything to turn to. Deal with it.

  366. Jack in Taiwan May 29th, 2007 at 11:12 pm

    Somebody must show some energy emotion even angry on field.
    A team only can helped by themselves.

  367. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 11:12 pm

    Here’s a question…How to you motivate veteran players with guaranteed, multi-year contracts? Honestly, how is a manager (or anyone else) supposed to effectively motivate guys that are guaranteed to get paid and stay in the starting lineup no matter how badly they perform (because you can’t realistically send them to the minors, cut them, or not play them)?

    I also think the Yanks could use a change at the manager spot, but I still wonder how anyone is going to be able to wake up this team…

  368. Dave May 29th, 2007 at 11:12 pm

    Nick Johnson never plays – he is constantly injurred – I dont want him back at all!

    jermaine dye sucks right now and is a career 270 hitter – he basically has two good yrs in his whole career.

    And why are people calling to get Hunter or ichiro. Hunter is a below average hitter and ichiro will be another one of those over the hill, over priced burden of a contract.

    Lowell is not worth 1 million nevermind 3 M. Just because he is playing well now doesnt mean he is good.

    Cabrera isnt hitting right now whatsoever. Why has he all of a sudden earned the right to start?

    Releasing damon and giambi means we would have to pay the entirity of their salary and not have them play for us. Why in gods name would we do that? Giambi is only one of two power hitters we have right now.

    We need to trade for teixera and sign one of bheurle – 27 or zambrano -29. Colon is a free agent as well but he is 35 prolly not the best idea unless he will sign a two yr deal. Then, we need to draft a whole bunch of position players and somehow find someone to replace abreu next yr. Options include Dye (34), Ichiro (34), jose guillen (32) and Bradley(30). THEN, we should sign Bob wickman-39 or francisco cordero-33 or jason isringhausen-35 and re-sign Mo-38 for one yr if he doesnt suck the rest of this season. Cordero is actually unbelievable this yr. Wickman is old and isringhausen has rebounded from last yr. Id say Mark bheurle and francisco cordero would be the best pitchers to get. Out of everyone available for RF abreu prolly has the best track record. If he is still this bad by the end of the yr, Ichiro is obviously the best second choice but his age is a big concern. Jermaine dye does not have nearly as good career numbers as Ichiro or abreu

  369. xryanx May 29th, 2007 at 11:15 pm

    We’re done.

  370. Crosetti May 29th, 2007 at 11:16 pm

    Marius

    I agree with you all the way. Torre should´ve fired after the 2002 season.

  371. WeMissPaulie May 29th, 2007 at 11:17 pm

    Funny thing is, they will break out of this sometime and look like a legitimate contender. Too bad they spotted the Sawx 14 games. They’ll make a run and the rest of the summer will be interesting. Mark my word.

  372. Marius May 29th, 2007 at 11:18 pm

    Should’ve fired what?

    Do people in here not speak english. Thank god I’m not an English teacher, or I would cry reading most of the posts in here.

  373. Pollyanna "Porkchop" Pough May 29th, 2007 at 11:19 pm

    i’ve been doing this all day, and i’ll do it everyday if i have to. you guys seriously need to get pumped. we’re gonna win this thing, i promise. don’t be mad at me for saying this, just be mad.

    i’m gonna repost some stuff here, so for all of you who have reas it think of it like hearing a really cool song a second or third time that gets you pumped like “the final countdown” by europe or “bang on the drum all day” by todd rundgren or “tell her about it” by billy joel. just don’t be bored and don’t hate. get mad and flip.

    and remember when you hit rock bottom in a pool you bend your legs and push up flying like an ICBM through the surface and injuring all the russians and martians on the way to jupiter. you go faster up when your on the bottom. you will see.

    here’s what i said earlier:

    i’m telling you, the yankees planned this. that’s why nobody is fired and joe is calm. it’s like rope-a-dope. the yankees are saving their energy for the middle of july through october. mariano rivera will be rested. released like a secret weapon when the other teams are napping.

    it’s like in the rocky movies, when rocky would refrain from throwing his left hook for half the match, then switch to his overpowering southpaw style once his oponent got too comfortable. this has all been planned. that’s why joe is so calm. that is why general patton hasn’t fired anyone. this will go on record as the greatest comeback ever and nobody in new england will ever bring up that “from 0-3 to history� crap. the boston fans will be like bad clams when you steam them: shut up, shut down and thrown away.

    cashman is a genius and will be giving interviews on all the talk shows in october on “how i made the yankees win.� they’ll make a movie about this season.

    it’s like the usa and soviet union. the soviet union pretended to collapse and one day when we least expect it they’re going to come back and take over.

    clemens will bang his fist.

  374. Dave May 29th, 2007 at 11:20 pm

    SJ – I said in my post that I don’t blame cash for abreu, damon, cano and giambi not playing well. I realize only jeter, posada, arod and maybe matsui are playing at or above their past performances.
    You keep asking what he should have done differently and I already said – Cash should have signed Lilly over Igawa, he should have traded farnsowrth and picked up a solid eighth inning guy like spiers, He should have picked up a solid lefty out of the pen like Okajima or walker. He shuld have payed Loretta a little more than everyone else so we would have a decent bench. He should have picked up a better backup catcher- any one in the majors is better than nieves. He should have kept sheff and gave him one more yr after this yr ( a short term contract) and taught him how to play first in the off season – sheff is an amazing athlete and could have e asily learned first base in the five month off season. He couldn’t learn it in the week leading up to the playoffs but five months is plenty of time considering he already played third.
    I wanted to trade Cabrera for Gonzalez (as u said hindsight is 20 saltamachia ( we would have spiers we don’t need farnsworthless.) I would have traded pavano for anything we could get even if we had to pay part of his contract. I would have picked up pettitte. I would have traded RANDY for owings even if we had to pay the majority of his last yr and didn’t get any one else with owings. And if they wouldn’t give us owings – I wouldn’t have traded randy at all.
    You say let cash have another yr and if he cant fix things then fire him? So u will sacrifice this yr and next to give cash a chance? That is the worst idea I have ever heard. This is cash’s team now- he has had it for a yr and a half. If they cant get in the playoffs this yr. He doesn’t deserve to be in the majors any more nevermind be a GM for the yanks. He took a 200 million dollar payroll and cant make the playoffs with it. I canrt believe how much support cash has gotten from the fans for not making a single good move in his entire career. Cash basically has as good a batting average in terms of moves made as wil nieves. He has made maybe three good moves out of 20 in the last yr and a half. When did he earn all of this respect that u ppl are giving him?
    Sean, Igawa wasn’t a bad trade? He costs 48 million and he cant even pitch in the majors right now. Who cares how young he is if he is only helping tampa? I love how ur excuse is its just money … Cash’s whole plan was to cut payroll then he wastes 48 million on garbage and a fan says don’t worry cash its just money. Well, zito would have just been money too, might as well have tried him out for a bit ya know – see how that worked cuz its just money ya know. And u say if it doesn’t work we can just trade him? No if it doesn’t work we just flushed another 48 million down the toilet due to cash’s genius. That’s 88 million between him and pavano down the drain. You cant trade garbage without paying the entire salary. If it doesn’t work then cash is fired no ifs ands or buts.

  375. Chris NJ May 29th, 2007 at 11:20 pm

    Even before the season started, it was easy to say that Matsuzaka was ore worth his money than Igawa was. Matsuzaka was overpaid, but Igawa, he is just disgusting.

  376. Dave May 29th, 2007 at 11:21 pm

    polyana that is the dumbest thing – what are u talking about

  377. Stuart May 29th, 2007 at 11:24 pm

    the mets are the old Yanks.. The yare by far the best team in the NL, and if they do not make the WS I would be suprised….

    the Yanks just cannot do anything right… I sure would feel better if they got rid of Vizciano and Farnsworth and made some minot moves with the minors…

    As many have said Britton deserves a chance, send Desalvo down.

    Eric Duncan is picking things up don’t laugh he is still very young…..

    Torre I love but maybe it is time.. I would not get rid of Cashman I think he can help with the solution and has been haunted about this possibly happening for at least 3 years…

  378. Pollyanna "Porkchop" Pough May 29th, 2007 at 11:25 pm

    dave, you know you are flipping out. now get pumped. i like your posts, you’re cool and smart.

  379. Marius May 29th, 2007 at 11:28 pm

    Everyone other than Cairo and Nieves have trade value. This is just about the ones that can actually be traded, which aren’t many on the 25. Yankees need to learn to stop including no trade clauses on long term contracts.

    Now, A-Rod had a no trade clause when he was traded to the Yankees. So even no trade clauses are workable.

    As the team stands now, nothing will happen this season. They just don’t have the mental makeup to start anything. Trades, demotions, and promotions need to happen and they will happen. Steiny and the family won’t let it just stew in fail. Forget about Cashman having control anymore. That is over. He won’t get fired, but his control will go away and I am pretty sure that is what Steinny meant when he stated the hook in regards to Cashman. Cashman will quit soon after. It will be GM by committee till a good GM can be found to take the place of Cashman.

    Peter Abraham will be promoted to manager.

  380. Pollyanna "Porkchop" Pough May 29th, 2007 at 11:28 pm

    everybody, i’ve been writing all day to combat the negativity and get all of you totally pumped. the whole season is going according to plan and we are about to witness firepower the likes us humans have never seen. roger clemens silenced a group of reporters by violently slamming a table last night. kruschev tried a similar tactic one day but all that did was inspire sting to sing about it on “the dream of the blue turtles.�

    roger scares people. and that will be the shadow that all of baseball will be living under by mid july. mount clemensia, the volcano that shelters and protects yankeelandia.

    brian cashman will be gm for a long long time and we should give thanks.

    the fury of clemens will be useful in the clubhouse. here is what i think should happen. they should make farnsworth disappear. like when roger arrives, just send him to bolivia. in a villa, surrounded by tortoises and peacocks with plenty of guava juice and eggs so he is happy.

    then all of baseball will ask, “what happened to kyle farsworth?� the yankees can be coy and say something like, “oh, we are trying to find out, it’s kind of like with bubba tramell. hey check out the new iphone!� this will distract people, while the yankees reel off win after win like a lion eating marzipan chipmunks.

    but then, somebody in the clubhouse who takes care of shining the players bats can leak a rumor that the yankees, led by clemens killed and ate kyle farnsworth in a furious ritual. they drank the blood and took the field. in fact, it is rumored that the red woolen glove that torre now wears when he signals for a reliever was inspired by his blood red hand when he devoured farnsworth’s heart.

    i know, it’s a crazy rumor but people would be scared facing the yankees because of the possibility that they are a talented team made up of angry cannibals.

    clemens will bang his fist.

  381. Chicago Dave May 29th, 2007 at 11:35 pm

    “Porkchop” – I’m actually starting to get your humor…That last post of yours cracked me up!

  382. Ray May 29th, 2007 at 11:36 pm

    Hey Porkchop…like I said earlier; I’m going to copy some of your comedy posts and then post them again in September…we’ll see how accurate you are. lol

  383. mark1 May 29th, 2007 at 11:36 pm

    Lowell is not worth 1 million nevermind 3 M. Just because he is playing well now doesnt mean he is good.

    Naa, he’s just a gold glove third baseman who’s playing better than arod and is great in the clubhouse. Nothing to like there.

    Honestly, reading ignorance like yours makes me appreciate cashman.

  384. Dave May 29th, 2007 at 11:37 pm

    How come they just keep losing and nothing is happening – no change is occuring. DO SOMETHING! Bring birtton and edwar ramirez up. Send melky back to the minors along with vizcaino. Where did sean henn go? send down nieves and bring up davis or someone. Is stienbrenner dead? How come absolutely nothing is happening? Are they waiting for the yanks to be in last place in baseball to shake things up? Are they waiting for them to dig a hole so deep they cant recover? I would even start clemens against boston instead of moose. What can they lose by doing that? If anything it will provide some sort of spark. Jeter should be leading off every day and damon batting ninth. I would even send cano down for a week or two and bring up basak. That might be a bit too drastic but How could it hurt at this point? Any thing they do will either help or not change a thing – might as well shake things up.

  385. not -Torre -hater May 29th, 2007 at 11:44 pm

    Kevin Long Should be responsible for not hitting,Donnie baseball should teach him how to coach.If one hitter can not hit,there might be his own problem,if there are many ,it is hitting coach’s job to figure out.

  386. Dave May 29th, 2007 at 11:44 pm

    Hey Mark,

    Lowell hit 236 in 500 at bats 2 yrs ago. He is a career 270 hitter who is well passed his prime. He has one won gold glove and that was the same yr he hit 236 – i guess that makes him a gold glover for life right? I have been told about fifty times that gold gloves mean very little anyway as do fielding percentages. Arod is a hall of famer and one of the best baseball players of our generation. Try to see past the last two months and into the other ten yrs of his career – I know it is difficult. You keep appreciating cashman as he runs us right into the ground. Cash has made such good judgement calls so far on guys like sanchez, vizcaino, Igawa and pavano – why not let him keep going right? Your so smart mark.

  387. Chuck May 29th, 2007 at 11:46 pm

    The game has been over for two hours now and Torre has not been fired… what is the delay?

  388. "Sleepy" Joe Torre May 29th, 2007 at 11:47 pm

    i think steinbrenner is dead…. swindal probably killed him!

  389. Dave May 29th, 2007 at 11:48 pm

    Oh yea and if beckett didnt exist there would be no way lowell would be on the sox. No one in their right mind would take that contract on without getting something else in return. After lowell begins his long and painful fade in the second half the sox will be paying something like ten million for that fantastic clubhouse presence u mentioned mark. Your right- only cashman would make a moronic deal like that with nothing else in return. You keep putting your faith in that idiot.

  390. Redsox are Devil May 29th, 2007 at 11:50 pm

    ndy’s should have better fate and 8 wins right now if not for Yankees offense continued to be pathetic

    Yankees having bad year because of bad karma and negative energy surrounds this team. It’s called bad luck ,that’s what Redsox experience last year.I blame Damon’s and Doug Mienkencrap for bringing up curse of bambino to the Yankees.I hate wait two more years until damon’s contract runs out.

  391. Bob May 29th, 2007 at 11:50 pm

    Anyone else notice how red Torre’s eyes were in the post game interview? Almost looked like he had been crying. ???

  392. Marius May 29th, 2007 at 11:50 pm

    The Yankees are 19-21 when Giambi starts and 2-7 when he is not in the lineup.

  393. susan mullen May 29th, 2007 at 11:52 pm

    Andy Pettitte pitched fantastically again–wish we’d had him the past 2 years. Other players on the team have inconsistent mental toughness. They should’ve been taking infield practice every day then maybe the 3rd baseman would’ve made the correct fielding decisions. Overall stats don’t take these things into account. The Yankee payroll automatically earned other teams $100 million in revenue sharing and luxury tax from the Yankee fan. I’d like the Yankee payroll to be cut just to stop fatcats from pocketing our money.

  394. Master Shake May 29th, 2007 at 11:56 pm

    Proctor over Bruney tonight — yet another display of Joe’s unbridled incompetence.

  395. Master Shake May 29th, 2007 at 11:59 pm

    Sorry, hit submit too soon. Hey Pete, as a personal favor could you please ask Joe Torre to forgive Brian Bruney for whatever he did? Thanks.

    In all seriousness, why is Joe so reluctant to use our 2nd best relief pitcher in high leverage situations?

  396. Diggedy May 30th, 2007 at 12:02 am

    Anyone saying that Torre should be fired makes me sick.

    At the very LEAST, he has earned the right to finish this season and let us judge him on the full 162 game season.

    And personally, he can finish 80-82 and I think he deserves another season.

    Everyone has been drinking WAY too much of that ’96-’00 Kool Aid.

    They still have Jeter, Posada, Mo, and Pettitte (though there was a hiatus), but you think everyday players like O’Neill, Bernie, Nelson, Stanton, and Tino come along every season?

    Torre spent his first 5 years building the blueprint for a winning formula that has since been used by nearly every MLB team.. Since Gonzalez broke his bat in ‘Zona, this team has gone out and made acquistion after acquistion that for the most part, go against everything Torre preached.. You’re all knowledgeable.. I don’t have to speak the obvious.. The offense never had superstars.. It had good hitters and timely hitters.. You give the bullpen a lead in the 7th, and 9 times out of 10 you had a win.

    Now, when the pressure is on (whether in the play-offs the last few years, or this season), you have a team that can’t put together a rally because 6-7 guys aren’t hitting in the line-up. You have starters who can barely get to the 6th, and if they do, you’d have a better shot at a Todd Bridges Gary Coleman cop buddy film being released than them keeping the lead.

    Somehow, Torre has been able to take this non-cohesive mess to the play-offs every season. You’re damned if you do, you’re damned if you don’t. Lloyd and Weathers sucked ass during the ’96 regular season, and made Torre look like a GENIUS in the play-offs. Managing is like Blackjack. You get a hot streak, you get a cold streak. You’ve gotta ride it out.. But no one ever wants to be patient.. Proctor gets a K, it’s a great move by Torre. Gives up the fly ball, FIRE HIM. He brings in Bruney, Bruney gives up a fly ball, is everyone sitting here saying “that’s the right move anyway”?

    I’m not in the clubhouse. I don’t know what’s being said. So why would I assume that Torre goes into the locker room, says “it’s ok it will be alright”, puts his hands down his pants, and has a cream soda?

    The team shows “no fire” or “heart” on the field because of the players we have. What’s Torre gonna do? If you had a Parcells type of presence, he’d be pulling all the dead weight off the field. Well, Torre used to be that mgr. Tino and Boggs couldn’t hit a beach ball in the ’96 World Series. Torre benched their ass and put in Fielder and Hayes. We don’t have anywhere NEAR that depth. He’s not the GM. He HAS to ride the hand he’s been dealt.

    This isn’t hockey. This isn’t basketball. You’re not given a birth to the play-offs just by fielding a team (save for the Knicks who can’t even get tickets to May basketball). People need to stop acting as if any schmuck can just take the Yankees and their bloated payroll to the playoffs.

    Maybe I’m the idiot. Maybe I’m drunk off the Kool Aid thinking Torre is still the steady presence we need in that dugout. But we still have 2/3′s of the season left and this man has earned the right to show me what, if anything, he’s still got up his sleeve.

    Go Hickory High

    and I’m out like a trout

  397. Charlie May 30th, 2007 at 12:02 am

    “.I blame Damon’s and Doug Mienkencrap for bringing up curse of bambino to the Yankees.I hate wait two more years until damon’s contract runs out.”

    This doesn’t even make sense in fantasy world.

  398. Stuart May 30th, 2007 at 12:02 am

    the yanks run differential is + 18 and they are 8 games below 500 that is almost impossible unless you lose like every close game which they have done.

    look at other teams tampa same record as the yanks and they are like – 50 runs, the whitesux have a worse differential, that just shows how bad things have gone….

    anyone who would want to pick up mike lowell for next year is a moron… the guys is 34 and has been on decline since the WS about 4 years ago……………

  399. Marius May 30th, 2007 at 12:05 am

    Peter, next press conference with Torre, ask him why he is still manager and if he deserves to be manager, in his opinion.
    Ask him if he truly thinks he makes the right moves with the bullpen. Ask him why he s@cks the d!cks of the multimillionaires on his team and doesn’t ream them for playing like the Royals.

    Ask him if he cried when he got booed by all of New York.

  400. Realist May 30th, 2007 at 12:06 am

    For the last time: Sean Henn SUCKS. He’s finished here.

  401. poludamas May 30th, 2007 at 12:12 am

    Polyanna,
    Maybe if they eat Giambi they will get the benefit of his HGH and start playing well. Clearly his body is beginning to fall apart so it can’t do him any good any more, but he must see now that his duty is to give it up for the nourishment of the team. Farnsworth isn’t big enough for a meal; he’d just be dessert.

    I fear that the Red Sox are ahead of the Yankees–have you seen what color Matsuzaka’s glove is? That’s right–it’s red. What do you think really happened to Keith Foulke? The “he signed with the Indians and then decided to retire” story is crap. They ate him.

  402. Dave May 30th, 2007 at 12:14 am

    Thanks stuart – see mark no one agrees with u – go back to redsux land and pretend that lowell is an all star once again

  403. poludamas May 30th, 2007 at 12:14 am

    Clearly this website is afraid of my wisdom which it attempts to hide by crossing out some of my words, including the key evidence of the color of Matsuzaka’s glove.

  404. Dave May 30th, 2007 at 12:18 am

    its true im soo tired of going to yankee games to watch them lose. One of the most expensive teams in baseball to watch has one of the worst records in baseball. Its a laughing stock.

  405. Sf Gooner May 30th, 2007 at 12:42 am

    Yankees Win said “IS THE MOST FAMOUS FRANCHISE IN THE ENTIRE SPORTS HISTORY”

    I don’t know man. I think Real Madrid and Manchester United probably edge the Yankees, but they are surely up there.

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