Game 55: Yankees at White Sox
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 04, 2007 
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Here are the lineups:
YANKEES
Damon DH
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Posada C
Matsui LF
Cano 2B
Phelps 1B
Cabrera CF
DeSalvo RHP (1-2, 5.40)
WHITE SOX
Owens CF
Iguchi 2B
Thome DH
Dye RF
Pierzynski C
Konerko 1B
Mackowiak LF
Uribe SS
Crede 3B
Garland RHP (3-3, 3.91)
Pregame chatter: Roger Clemens had an MRI that showed “disrupted scar tissue” in his right groin. He will throw a bullpen in Tampa on Wednesday and hopes to pitch Sunday. … Andy Pettitte is feeling better and hopes to pitch Friday. He said the back pain is in the same place it was in spring training but much less severe. … Condolences to the family of former Yankees third baseman Clete Boyer, who passed away today. He was a teammate of Joe Torre’s in Atlanta. … The tarp is on the field but first pitch is expected in an hour. … Torre said he hoped to give Alex Rodriguez a day off soon. … Notre Dame football coach Charlie Weis was in the clubhouse before the game with his son. He is from New Jersey and is a big fan of the Yankees. Weis, of course, was also the offensive coordinator of the Patriots dynasty.
UPDATE, 8:08 P.M.: I had a reader, who I won’t name to save him the embarrassment, try and tell me that Josh Phelps was just as good defensively as Doug Mientkiewicz. Right. The guy is a butcher. The sooner they convert Damon, the better. The problem then is they don’t have anybody to DH.
UPDATE, 9:35 p.m.: Chris Britton is the man, you bloggers were right. I blame this game on MLB. It is ridiculous for the Yankees and Red Sox to play on Sunday night at 8 p.m. then leave on road trips and play the next day.
let’s go Yankees!!!
Cairo and Nieves are the only bench players, correct? How long until a non-stiff gets called up in place of a once-a-week bullpen arm?
Roger Clemens still hopes to [pitch] against the Pittsburgh Pirates on Saturday.
Clemens played catch Monday in the outfield during a 2-hour, 50-minute workout at the Yankees minor league complex. Most of the workout and treatment took place indoors.
“AP 541 pm EDT”:http://www.kirotv.com/sports/13440389/detail.html
I met Clete in Cooperstown a few years ago, and have an autographed ball by him. Excellent defensively, and overshadowed by Brooks.
I have each WS video or DVD from 1948 on. You should see the highlights from Game 1 of the 1961 Series. Clete put on a show similar to Nettles 1978 Game 3.
KT is also here
Arod just had off on Thursday…he’s good for a few more games and give him off on Thursday. Hopefully the Yankees blow out the WS in a game or two and Joe can give a few guys some rest.
Wait Clemens is hoping to pitch Sunday? I thought it was Saturday.
I’ll be psyched if its Sunday. I have a ticket.
I hope that the YES network does a retrospective, or at least a montage of plays that Clete made. I am too young to have seen him, and he seems to get lost in the shuffle of Yankee players. Francesa has talked up Clete Boyer recently, and from his accounts and from some of the callers who commented, it sounds like he was a fantastic third baseman. Alright, I admit it, I do listen to M&MD. Feeling shame.
Anyway, I’d love to see the footage – it would be a great way to honor him.
I always wondered why the YES network didn’t show old games from the 50′s and 60′s on a regular basis. I’d love to see how some of those teams looked on the field over the course of the season.
It would be cool if we could follow a previous season along with the current one. Show the games in the afternoon or late at night. If the chosen past season was 1961, call it “Encore 1961″. Would be better than the rest of their crappidy programming.
Maybe they don’t have rights to all the footage. Heck, I don’t even know if the footage exists.
I’ll stop the OT rambling now.
So, do you think Dye will playing to audition for a different set of pinstripes? Same for Bobby A?
Our pitching has to hold up against the White Sox. They are the worst-hitting team in the league.
If you take out Thome (who is having a tremendous season) the White Sox’ lineup is atrocious – not a single player with an OPS+ of 100 (average) or better.
According to OPS+, the second-best hitter in the lineup is Pierzynski, who sports a line of .256/.301./.445 (94 OPS+).
This is just the sort of team we need to take 3 or 4 games from to have any hope of making a run this year.
as much as i can’t stand watching abreu approach what seems to be an electric fence in the outfield with all sorts of sharp spikes coming out of it, i do not want to see jermaine dye in yankee pinstripes. dye is solid in the outfield, but nothing special. abreu is faster on the basepaths, and seems to be coming around at the plate as of late, and will hit for better average. dye may give them some pop at the right side of the plate, but who knows. i say they hold onto bobby, unless anyone down the road is willing to part with top tier prospects and/or more. otherwise we just hold onto him for the rest of the year and dont pick up his option.
does anyone have any thoughts on ichiro in RF for next year? i cant make up my mind.
I’m a little nervous with DeSalvo on the mound. Definitely going to need some run support tonight!
I’m a little concerned about Ichiro. He’s about 33 years old, and ain’t getting any younger. Nor better. He will want a big contract with mega-bucks, and mega-years. It might work out for the first year or two, but beyond that will be a risk. He might turn out to be terrific, but it will be a risk.
I thought the key to a new Yankees dynasty was to go younger, and to stay away from big, locked-in money? Or did I misread something?
Didn’t they have delays in Chicago last time around?
Ichiro’s way too old to sign for more than 2 years, especially since his game is so dependent on his speed. E.g., I’d love to see how many of his 200 hits each year are infield hits that he beats out. Plus he doesn’t walk. The last thing we need is another aging pair of legs in the outfield. We should have learned our lesson with Damon/Matsui’s reup.
Tonyb, my guess is that a lot of older games might not have been saved; they must have been done on kinescope or maybe some were filmed. I think video didn’t become commonplace until the mid-60s (if someone else knows for sure, please correct me). Also, MLB, or more likely one of the networks might own the rights to any existing games from that period, as opposed to the Yankees.
My prediction for Ichiro: The Yankees will make a play for him but another team will give him a terrible contract that is not worth matching.
Think of it this way. Juan Pierre got a 5 year, $44 million contract. He is maybe half the player Ichiro is (worst at hitting, getting on base, hitting for power, stealing, and defense), but he was branded a “true leadoff guy” and his value took off. Ichiro will want at least 4 years and a lot more money per than Pierre. At what point does it become too risky to give big money to a 33 year old whose skills all stem from his speed?
Alright
It’s game time
I know this happens quite often but….
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ph.....prov=getty
Jeter really crushed that ball
Wow, Arod got jobbed on that call. Out of the baseline, my arse.
Talk about getting hosed. If anything he was on the line.
rodriguez was not out of the baseline
seriously, the umpires just don’t like the NYY this year
He kicked the ball, he didnt get jobbed. He shouldnt have swung at 58 foot pitch if he didnt want that to happen. A day off? Please!!!! He wants a day off? Sorry Alex, when your 12.5 games back, there is no such thing as a day off
No way was ARod out of the line, but the umps got it right b/c he kicked it at home plate. Even though it was unintentional you can’t play soccer with the ball. Right call
Lets see if DeSalvo can pitch a decent game here
HE KICKED THE BALL OUT OF THE BOX
I’m going to have nightmares about “cans of corn” and “he gone”.
I think Ichiro has the kind of game that doesn’t really detiriorate with advanced age. Think Ricky Henderson. If the price is right Ichiro would be a pretty good signing in my opinion
mel- CWS announers make you want to kill yourself. I suggest the mute button
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That White Sox broadcast team has to be in the top 5 on the annoyance factor
mark, you couldn’t be more wrong, well at least IMO
Pete:
Kinda funny that both Patriots’ icons Tom Brady and Charlie Weiss are Yankee fans. How do Bostonians feel about that? I wonder if Weiss had any influence on Brady baseball choice of teams or just coincidence?
Another bs call against us (re A Rod), sorry I’m a little behind real time
Why do we need to sign up for another message board? What’s wrong with this one?
Does DeSalvo know he can throw a strike on the first pitch?
DeSalvo really playing with fire here
If he keeps throwing them 2-0 fastballs down the middle like that, even this team will start crushing those
Ichiro would be a decent signing. His falloff would be minimal as he’s not a power hitter. He gets on base constantly and is a good defensive glove. Better than Abreu and Damon so far.
who doesn’t like a biased announcer who roots for his team to win. “C’mon JD hit one out for the good guys” “We are pitching into a teacup tonight” “Oh cmon stretch it will… put it on the board! YES!!!!!”
wow, we caught a break there. that pitch was right down the middle.
DeSalvo is playing with fire.. Man this is going to be a nervous one..
You don’t *need* to Jeff. It’s just an invitation.
lol, Bryan. I heard him use the “good guys” thing in the last series and thought it was so crass. Oh well. Good guys finish last.
Ichiro is ten times the player Juan Pierre is.
I don’t think many people have seen him play if you compare him to Pierre.
He has more speed, hits for more power (look at his doubles, triples and HR’s) drives in more runs, has a higher SB % and has a gun for an arm in the OF.
Juan Pierre makes Johnny Damon’s arm look strong.
DeSalvo is definitely the most frustrating pitcher to watch work. He gets the first out, goes 0-2 to Iguchi, then throws 10 of the next 12 pitches no where near the strike zone.
But, what can you do? He is well down the Yankee food chain as the choice. With Pavano, Hughes, Rasner, Karstans all on the DL, Clemens hurt and Igawa in the minors, its tough to complain about the seventh choice to start.
We just have to hope to score a ton of runs tonight and pray its enough to withstand his 4+ innings of work.
Here comes the rain
Does Phelps know how to bunt?
Is it just me or does Kay and Girardi hate each other?
Mike Sweeney? Really Rick? An overpaid, oft-injured DH is the last thing we need.
Hopefully the rain helps DeSalvo and his 89 mph heater
Whoever said that THome is having a fantastic year needs some assistance reading a stat sheet. 7 Hr’s and 19 RBI’s, granted in somewhat limited at bats, is nothing above average. This entire White Sox team has failed to produce like they have in recent years.
Ryan,
There aren’t a lot of options out there unless you want to pay the bounty the Rangers are going to ask for Texiera. The only first baseman who are available are guys with bad contracts like Sexson, Sweeney, Helton.
This is frustrating to watch
I pretty sure tonight is the last time we will see DeSalvo on the big club. I would even go to Igawa if Clemens can’t go on Saturday.
let’s get Mike Myers up
I would like to see Konerko, the Molina brothers, Giambi and a few others race.
What happened to Kei Igawa pitching today? I like Matt DeSalvo, but his past innings have been competely atrocious. I agree with Joe Mama, this is extremely difficult to watch-Desalvo walking and hitting people.
Watch this idiot DeSalvo walk the run in.
Would it really be that bad to stretch out Proctor or Henn and get someone in that could go 5 innings without walking every other batter?
Kei pitched yesterday, 7 Innings and gave up 2 ER’s yesterday with 9 k’s, 2 bb’s and 6 hits.
Jeff,
Scranton or Tampa?
need a big DP here
Desalvo looks horrible. he is not hitting is spots and is throwing wayyyyyyyy too many hittable pitches
phelps sucks
Josh Phelps is why I love Doug Meintkevitch
jeter’s limping
is not good, at all
Phelps is going to get someone killed. His defense is horrendous. Get Texeira or someone DECENT at 1B NOW.
phelps is absolutely horrendous at first base. this is pitiful
you gotta at least get one on that play
“Josh Phelps is why I love Doug Meintkevitch”
Perfectly put….
Get Damon to First
great. now we get to use every reliever on the planet to try and get a win.
Chris,
I bet they make a move by the weekend, at least a stop gap move. You can’t depend on this guy at 1B every single day.
Good to meet you, Matt DeSalvo
an inning and a third for desalvo…
great
that is on Jeter as much as it is on Phelps
this is the worst inning of the freaking season. DeSalvo should not be on a major league roster. Phelps should never throw the ball. Oh Man-K, where for art thou?
I bet John Olerud can still hit
Can a bench coach play the field? what do they have to do to have a player/coach and how soon can they do it?
Sparky,
How is Damon going to be any better than a guy that has played there for several years??? If Damon had all of Spring Training and the entire year so far he would look the same as Phelps. It will take a LOT of time to work him into first
Wow, DeSalvo got the crap kicked out of him up there. I honestly feel bad for the kid, but what are you gonna do?
Down after 1 1/3, this is really going to get our bullpen killed. Someone get Myers out there so he can take one for the team again. Maybe we’ll finally see Britton.
i miss mientkiewicz
get well…soon
Get Tino out of Tampa and back to NY.
Wow, who misses Doug now?
How did DeSalvo get people out his first two starts? He didn’t look like a major league pitcher tonight.
I think you leave Villone in for 5 innings and send him and DeSalvo down tomorrow for Henn and a long man.
“that is on Jeter as much as it is on Phelps”
how the hell is that on jeter? did you even see the play?
Its tough to gain momentum as a team when your starting pitching is awful and you have a butcher at first base.
This team looks like a very good team when Wang and Pettitte pitch.
The other three days? They look like an under .500 team and that’s because DeSalvo, Moose and Clippard aren’t dependable.
Hopefully, Roger helps and Moose can get it together. You can get by with one guy in the rotation (Clippard) you have to nurse.
Three guys? No chance.
Now, you can all see why they need to get Teixiera. Josh Phelps is pure garbage at first base.
He can’t play. All you folks who think he can play need to take your noses out of the stat sheets and watch the games.
He’s a Rule 5 guy for a reason. He is a career reject.
DFA him, call up Andy Phillips, and have him play first until they get Tex. Andy can field the position and is just as good a hitter as Phelps. At least Phillips can bunt guys over. Phelps can’t even do that. He’s awful.
Not unexpected DeSalvo is awful. He was DFA’ed for a reason last year. He can’t throw the ball over the plate and can’t get outs.
They gave him the easiest outing he can get, against the worst hitting team in the league and he just refused to throw the ball over the plate.
Gotta play uphill again tonight because of two guys who have no business being on this roster. Very, very frustrating.
That was huge
Hopefully Villone can keep it going and we score a bunch of runs
What is with DeSalvo smiling in the dugout on the way to commercial there. Anyone else agree he didn’t look phased at all that he just got a one-way ticket back to Scranton?
wow. i really think cash needs to make a move for someone at first. i’d be willing to give up a good high level prospect and low level prospect for someone. phelps is awful
me, david
Actually, thinking back on it, this was as much the defense’s fault as it was DeSalvo’s.
If they could have turned even one of those double plays, DeSalvo would have at least made it into the third.
Luck’s just not on that kid’s side this year.
Ok then put Cairo in…
yeah, Villone can eat some innings just as well as Meyers.. But at 3-1 I’m not ready to concede this game as a “take one for the team.” We need wins, period.
Villone shows Matt DeSalvo what a real pitcher looks like.
That really says a lot more about Matt DeSalvo that Villone had to bail him out in the 2nd inning.
Go hang around with Michael Scott, Matty.
and by a bunch I mean at least 10
desalvo is a pathetic waste who is only sucking up valuable air. see ya never
That wasn’t the worst inning of the season. The 7th inning of Saturday’s game has it beat by a mile. That wasn’t only worse, it was embarrassing.
This inning? No surprise with two slugs who have no business being on this roster making plays.
Can’t build momentum for a run if they can’t get out of their own way 3 out of every 5 days.
i cant imagine damon is going to be any better then phelps, i really dont want to see him at 1st. agreed, phelps is horrible and i would say the yanks give him this week to show he should play everday, otherwise andy phillips gets called up
Can Erin Andrews play first?
When is Teixiera’s contract up in Texas? Why does everyone think we can just go out and get him? I guess we’ve stock piled some arms in the farm system, but who would we will be willing to part with that they would want?
i don’t want to see derek’s left ankle/shin area.
David,
09
All you people who were threatening to jump off the Brooklyn bridge if Phelps didn’t make the roster over Phillips look pretty bad. Also the same people who wanted Nieves over Hundley
Justin,
The kid already had a one-way ticket back to Scranton. He was sent down for a reason last week. How could you expect him to get better in 5 days on the bus?
I don’t think there’s a “Pitching in the Bigs for Dummies” that DeSalvo can read.
his contract is up after next year and Texas needs pitching and knows they can’t keep him there.
I say Andy Phillips gets called up for tomorrow’s game, Phelps goes back to the bench or I don’t care where. His defense is worse than Giambi’s.
…i would say the yanks give him this week to show he should play everday…
i think he has showed TIME AND TIME AGAIN that he cannot play first PERIOD let alone play first everyday
You know, there is this guy we can get who can hit a little, and play gold glove first base and he requires no price
Bobby looks much better. 6 hits versus Boston and working counts again.
Exactly, Jason T. He’s had his interview. Defense doesn’t improve overnight if you suck to begin with.
Do you guys really think they can get Texiera for 3 decent-mediocre prospects? The Yanks ripped them off once, I don’t think they’ll be able to do it again.
Carson – I’m not expecting him to get better, I’m expecting him to look like he cares, even a little. Is that too much to ask? Maybe he does care, and just doesn’t express it physically like some do – but he sure seemed fine with his performance from the limited shots of him I saw.
David, if you go back to the last thread Pete posted from last night – there is a ton of discussion about Texieira (or however you spell it) and potential people to be traded.
NYR, we’re listening…
Er, Phillips was no genius at first base either. Giambi just made him look that way. Plus he leaves his bat in the minors whenever he plays with the big boys.
I doubt very much that the team will outright release Phelps, who has hit .280 this season, on account of one botched play. Because Andy Phillips certainly isn’t coming up to play first base, he’s been at second base all year in Scranton.
Never know, Nick, you never know…… certainly worth trying.
Go NYR,
Who?
Damon at first is kind of like the Sheff at first problem – not enough experience. But it’s that or Phelps. But I think moving Damon to 1st and finding a decent temp DH on the market would be easier than finding a decent 1B.
What about the Robin Yount move – DJ to CF, Damon to 1st, ARod back to SS, and we get Charlie Hayes out of retirement to play 3rd…
Phelps fields like Mantkiewicz hits.
Mantkiewicz hits like Phelps fields.
MLB.com must be playing a bad Yankeeography as I could have sworn they had Villone on the mound…that was weird
WHO PALMIERO LOL?
Not w/o the name Cano, Wang, or Tabata in it. They aren’t going to take AA and A players who probably won’t pan out to jack. Everyone on this board overestimates what our prospects can do. 75% of the targeted guys won’t make it to the bigs. Texas isn’t going to look at our prospects the same way us blog readers do.
can Damon reach home from 1st if there is a play at the plate ? I am highly suspect of his ability to throw a ball for any real distance unless he is on the surface of the moon
Phillips made some good plays at 1B and overall was at least average at 1B. Phelps is miles below average. Someone on here actually had a stat that showed Phillips as better than Meinky last year, but I’m not ready to concede that.
Phelps has botched a hell of a lot more than one play. Try every other time he touches the ball. Phillips has been getting time at 2B, doesn’t mean he forgot how to play first.
I’ve been thinking for a couple of days now: Jeter really needs a day off. It sucks that Cashman didn’t think to get a major-league player as a backup infielder, instead of Cairo, because Jeter and A-Rod really look like they could use a bit of rest, especially Jeter, who just doesn’t look right. He’s not running the same, and the Phelps play certainly didn’t help.
atleast giambi can scoop balls up in the dirt.. who else do we have down in the minors that can play the infield, we need someone better then cairo
People also over estimate Tex I think. He’s good, an all-star, but not a super star.
This is why Phillips should be on the team now, probably for Britton. He can at least split time with Phelps and be a defensive casy late in games. He’s not Minky with a glove, but he is better than Phelps.
If Britton doesn’t get in tonight’s game he may never pitch for us.
Also do you guys think no one else is looking at Texiera? LIke the Dodgers, Angels, Indians, Padres?? These teams all have far superior farm systems and will offer more than Clippard, Betances, and Proctor. HAHA that makes me laugh
Every scouting publication thinks the Yankees have among the deepest farm systems in baseball. Off the top of my head, baseball prospectus ranked them fourth based on the “deepest pitching crop in the entire minors.”
I have an old couch that Torre can prop up on it’s side to catch throws a 1st instead of Phelps…worth a chance as the cushions are really worn in
The Padres aren’t going to make a trade for the Texeira. That’s just ludicrous. They got Adrian Gonzalez, a stud, becasue he was blocked by Tex, now they want to block him again, in a league with no DH? Come on.
Easier solution, Pete. Just call up Andy Phillips to play first, keep Damon as DH, and monitor the Teixiera situation.
Or, go see if you can pry Mark Loretta from the Astros. He can also play some first base.
Its not a tough call here. They can’t play Josh Phelps at first any longer. He will have Jeter and Cano on the DL, and the pitchers ready to kill him, by the end of the week.
I think Texiera would cost too much in terms of young pitching. If it was just a matter of signing him for a ridiculous amount of money I’d be all for it, but unfortunately we gotta trade for they guy so Texas is defineatley going to want one of the top pitchers(hughes, joba, betances, kennedy) I really don’t want to see the Yanks give up any of those guys.
at this point, i really don’t care who plays first as long as its not phelps. i believe chris said it, phelps is gonna get someone killed and if not, i’m gonna kill myself watching him.
Nick,
This is not A-Rod’s contract we are talking about. Texas only has Teixeira for a year, so their bargaining power has been severely reduced. Besides, they’re in a situation where they *need* to get rid of him this year in order to get something of value. That trade deadline is approaching quite quickly.
I’m not saying the Yanks are going to get him for sure, but you’re really over-estimating how much 1 year of his services is worth. This is not a long-term contract (at least as far as Texas is concerned) like A-Rod had.
Texiera walks in the clubhouse and is our 3rd best player. I would call that better than just being an OK all star. Besides Howard or Morneau what other 1B would you rather have in the league?
Carson,
This isn’t a two team universe either. The Angels and Dodgers need a bat/1B as much or more than we do, and have WAY more to offer. If they offered that package next year, MAYBE they return our phone call.
i’m hurting as i watch jeet. he’s needs a day off. too bad he won’t accept one if he ain’t dying.
Nick B., are you crazy? The yanks have the deepest pitching in the minors. They have 5 legit top 100 prospects in Hughes, Joba, Betances, Kennedy and possibly Horne and Clippard(though his performance in the majors so far leaves much to be desired). Then they have guys like Marquez, Smith, McCutchen, Mcallister, Kontos. They also have some top prospects on the DL like Sanchez, Ohlendorf, Melancon, Cox, and Garcia.
Nick, third best? i don’t think so. he’s good but not that good.
Villone is done.
mark,
you can’t trade injured players. hughes is untouchable, and the rest of them are a long way from the bigs. Clippard is a #4 or 5 starter at best and would not be in a playoff rotation. IF they offered Chamberlain, Betances, and Horne they would maybe have a deal
The Dodgers have Loney, why would they want Tex?
Whatever happens today we need to not burn the whole Pen tonight
Texas won’t trade Teixiera to the Angels because they won’t move him to a team in their own division.
The hammer Tex has is he can be a FA after next season. If he doesn’t like the team he is dealt to, he plays it out and moves on. That great impacts what Texas can ask, and get for him.
Its a doable deal if Teixiera wants to come to NY. He has options not a lot of guys without service time have because he can control the situation a bit.
As far as Phelps, if anybody thinks Phelps is a better first baseman, especially defensively, than Andy Phillips, you simply don’t watch the games.
And, please, can the, “he hits .280″ nonsense.
If he plays two straight weeks, his average won’t be anywhere near .280.
He’s not any good. People got excited over some spring training hits and lose all perspective on a player.
He was a Rule 5 guy for a reason.
Andy Phillips is no all star. But, he is a much better option for the Yankees than Phelps right now.
Jason,
Who is better, Posada? He is going to fall off this pace very fast as ARod did after April. I can’t even possibly think of who is better than him on this club?
Since when do “all-star” and “ok” go together? I said he’s an all-star, not a superstar. Not sure where you got “ok” from. He’s good, he’s not Jeter, he’s not A-Rod, and he’s probably not even Cano.
As a point of comparison,Nick, Beltran was traded for John Buck, Mark Teahen, and Mike Wood. At the time, one good (not great) prospect, one decent one, and a non prospect.
SJ44,
You really seem on top of the prospect evaluations. I’m wondering who you think will eventually be the better Major League pitcher, Joba Chamberlain or Ian Kennedy? If we had to give up one to get Tex, which would you choose?
Personally, from what little I know, I like Kennedy better. Chamberlain’s weight issues concern me. But it seems most think Chamberlain will be the better pitcher down the line.
Sweeney’s deal is up after this year at 11M. Thats not a bad stop gap. He’s right handed, some power, dependable, decent glove. Wouldn’t take anything to get him. Give up a package similar to what the Phillies took for Abreu. Then look for someone this offseason.
When discussing Tex, you have to look at what other teams have at first base, and realize he can just walk away from any team that trades for him after next season.
That shrinks the market considerably.
Two pitchers, one starter, one relief pitcher and MAYBE a decent second tier prospect, get Tex, IMO.
Even if the Yankees don’t get him, I bet that ends up being the price when all is said is done.
Nick,
I don’t know what you have heard about Ned Coletti, but he has a tighter grip on his prospects than Cashman does. The Dodgers don’t have a good relationship with Boras to begin with, and their org. philosophy doesn’t line up with paying for a marquee 1B like Teixeira.
Again, I’m not saying the Yankees have a lock on him, but we sure do have a damn good chance.
I don’t think the current plan is to call up Phillips, I think they are leaning to Basak. Now with Jeter limping, I think that is even more true. Too bad they can’t send down DeSalvo in the middle of the game.
Mo,
He didn’t have a year left on his contract either and was traded by the ROYALS at the DEADLINE the year he could walk
I’d avoid Ichiro and A. Jones. The only CF I’d take a look at as a free agent is Hunter.
Carson,
Just throwing the Dodgers out there at a team that needs a bat. I know they are also trying to build from within but as much as they are shelling out, I would think they would be interested. I don’t really follow the Dodgers all that closely b/c of the time zone differnce and I hate National League baseball.
“I can’t even possibly think of who is better than him on this club?”
Did you actually just bump him up to #1 instead of 3rd best on the team?
To answer your question:
A-Rod
Jeter
Cano
Posada
Leaving pitchers out of it becuase I assume you’re only ranking him among position players.
Nick,
Rodriguez and Jeter without a doubt.
Posada, I think he’ll level off but not as fast and sharply as you think he will.
Cano, now I might be a little biased when it comes to Cano since I just don’t see a ceiling for this guy, but even with his slow start (he’s heating up) I would rather have Robbie than Tex any day.
ATTA BOY PHELPS
send DeSalvo down, DFA Phelps, and callup Phillips and Edwar Rameriz. Then send rameriz down on saturday, and have Alan Horne make the start
Josh Phelps: Inning killer
YankeeJosh, SJ would defineatley know more than me on this, but there is no way I would give up Joba. His fastball touches the upper 90′s and he backs it up with nasty slider. He needs to cultivate his third pitch, which is what I assume he’s trying to do at Tampa right now. His weight is a concern but if he can manage it he’s a potential ace.
Mourneau, Howard, PUJOLS, Lee all over Tex.
Phelps is better at grounding into double plays than he is at completing double plays in the field.
Uck Phelps is stinking it up all around tonight. Can Shelley Duncan really be any worse?
Phelps needed to step out of the box
The pither froze him there
Is anybody still going to try and sell us on Josh Phelps?
He and DeSalvo need one way tickets on the DFA train.
Both are absolute butchers. Talk about two guys that can suck the life out of a team and take away momentum from last night. Geez, just brutal.
Experts say Ichiro has 6 years left and should get b/w 2000 and 2500 hits here (he’s at 1000). Locking him up at anything more than 3/54 would be way to much or long. He’s going to get a bigger deal than that elsewhere. He’ll probably get 16-18 a year for 4-6 from someone.
Nick, what does the year matter? Its the same dynamic, trading him rather than paying him or losing him.
Ah forgot Pujols, knew I was forgetting someone. I like Tex more than Lee but could just be me. Lee is injury prone
Mo,
So you would trade a player with a year left for the exact same package as a guy who can walk at the end of the year? So why don’t we ask for every player who has 2 or 3 years of arbitration left b/c teams should dump them for the same package as in their walk years, right?
“Experts say Ichiro has 6 years left…”
since when do you trust experts?
I said sign him for 3. Just saying what the word is. He’ll be good for 3 more years. He doesn’t carry a lot of weight and is in superb shape. I’d take the Yanks signing him for 3 years in a heartbeat.
The point is, if they are making calls looking to move him, they have no extra bargaining power due to the extra year, because they are showing their hand that they want to begin a rebuild.
We at “take one for the team” time yet?
500 jacks isn’t going to mean anything pretty soon
GAMEOVER YANKEES LOOSE 6-1
After tonight, Andy Phillips needs to be on the team. They can’t keep rolling Phelps out there.
Kennedy is more polished than Chamberlain right now. Chamberlain has a bigger (in terms of MPH) arm, but his medicals are a bit scary.
He has lost over 60 pounds since he left Nebraska. I saw him pitch a couple of weeks ago (will see him pitch again this week) and he looks fitter than I have ever seen him.
I think the Yankees have enough pitching depth to do a Tex deal without including either Kennedy or Chamberlain.
But, if one of those guys have to be included in the deal for it to be done (provided, of course, Tex would sign a long term deal in NY), I would include Chamberlain.
The reason? Kennedy could be in the Yankees rotation next year. Joba may be two years away.
Two years from now is an enternity and they would have a lot of options, both inside and outside the organization, to upgrade their pitching staff.
And.. thats the ballgame- thanks for the memories Josh, Matt, and Ronnie.
pretty soon is already here
Ugh. I love how we have a great series and then pull this garbage tonight.
Yeah plus, why do you want to give up prospects in a year that is looking bleek? Might as well wait until the offseason and maybe find someone else or hopefully the Rangers get MORE desperate to move him.
make that 5-1. The game isn’t over, but This offence can’t hit when being down by a lot of runs
This is moving from ugly to real ugly 5-1. It probably ends at 11-2. Truly momemtum is only as good as today’s starting pitcher, in an already sad day that has seen the deaths of Clete Boyer and Bill France Jr.
winning 2 of 3 against boston seems to mean we lose 4 of our next 6
This team is a lot more than a bad 1B from winning the wild card
Why not use Cairo as the 1st baseman for now? He seems like he could be better defensively than Phelps.
this season has just been brutal…the old “one small step up, three steps back”
They might wind up a WC when it is all said and done but this team is broken in more ways than one, a lot of guys past their prime, a few guys in their prime and a whole lot of holes in the bullpen, starting rotation, bench, etc….
A long not real fun summer coming up….
Finally Britton is here!!!!!
WELL THERE IS A WOMENS SOFTBLL GAME ON espn2
You can’t build any momentum when your starter can’t get thru the second inning, have to go to the bullpen to early, and have a butcher at first base who can’t field and can’t hit.
Like I said earlier, this is a good team on the nights Wang and Pettitte pitch, and a last place team the next three days.
That’s why we need Clemens to be good, not just “another guy” in the rotation.
They need to find 3 starters who can keep them in games or they won’t be able to build any momentum to get back into playoff contention.
To get belted around by a team that can’t hit just shows you how bad their pitching is in certain areas.
Now, we need Clippard to step up tomorrow. Put up some early zeroes and give the team a chance.
DeSalvo gave them no chance tonight. When you go to the ‘pen in the second inning, its never a good thing.
If they can split this series and sweep the Pirates, doable if they want to be considered a playoff-calibur team, I’d gladly take a 5-2 week.
sparky, why don’t you go watch it then?
Wow, I didn’t even know what number Britton wore. Good to see him finally on the mound.
If my recollection of last year is correct, Andy Phillips had a pretty good glove, and his bat was only marginally worse than Mientkiewicz’. Would it make sense to switch Phelps for Philips while Mientkiewicz is out to have some decent defense around first? Or would we lose Phelps under the rule 5 draft?
You guys are going to be jumping off the Britton bandwagon as fast as the Phelps/Nieves one. The Orioles spent a TON on bullpen help this offseason, they weren’t going to give away a guy for nothing that was any good
WS are one of the worst offensive teams in mlb… if we lose like this to them, it just shows how weak we really are..
1 series against boston doesnt hide all our short comings.. there is a reason we are 6 games under .500
Paul,
He would go back to the O’s for 25 grand
not yet Jeff, still only 5th inning…… but getting a helluva lot closer than i want to be……………………………………
Yes Nick, the O’s have truly proven to be great bullpen talent evaluators this year. It is truly an indictment of Britton that those maestro’s of the pen traded him for Jaret Wright. because they always know which people to sign, those shrewd Orioles.
Who thinks we will still win this game.
5 more innnings and 4 runs down. I think we will!
are they going to talk more about the arod mine thing
I am going to vomit if i hear about this again
Mo,
Well if they didn’t know what they had, maybe Torre, Guidry, Kerrigan, Cash did when they made his fat butt ride the bus for 2 months???
mathohen,
at least they aren’t talking about him cheating on his wife with chicks that look like dudes. that chick was nasty
Nick, if anyone is worse at bullpen management than the O’s, it is the Yanks.
I’ll give ya both of those points, I really don’t think he is going to be that good, but I hope I’m wrong. If he can be anything near what Bruney has been I’ll be happy/shocked.
Yanks win this game 9-8
The O’s truly are a crap organisation….like someone said
“they spend $80m for 80 wins” year in and year out
Were just talkin’ here but, I think people really underestimate what the impact of getting a guy like Teixera would have on this team.
You immediately improve your pitching because of his defense.
He is known as being a torrid second half hitter. Another plus.
A 27 year old, Gold Glove switch hitter with power, don’t grow on trees. He signs a long term deal, you have your first baseman for the next 5-6 years, at a minimum.
He’s most likely going to get traded this year because he and Ron Washington (the manager) don’t get along and Texas is worried they won’t get anything for him if they don’t deal him this year.
It won’t drain the farm system to get him, IMO. The Carlos Beltran deal is the “model” if you will, for these type of deals. IMO, the Yankees have similar parts to move to make a deal of this kind. They will have to give up some good players but, it won’t drain the system.
His idol is Mattingly. That would serve as a huge incentive for him to stay in NY.
It also balances out the lineup. Its too lefty dominant now. Imagine this lineup:
Damon
Jeter
Abreu
Arod
Tex
Matsui
Posada
Cano
Cabrera
Much more balance from top to bottom, with guys protecting one another. That’s important and that’s what is missing with this year’s offense.
That’s why I think its important the Yankees exhaust all possibilities to get him. Not just for this year but for the future.
He’s the right guy to make a move on because of his age and talent.
If they can get him, this team immediately improves.
Me too, im not entirely sold on him, although he did have a 3.35 era in the AL east in 53 innings with less than a hit per inning and good K numbers.
if anybody has watched the White Sox recently, you’d realize just how poor the yanks pitching has to be to give up this many runs so early.
Does anyone think Johnny Damon is coordinated enough to play first base? He looks like someone who hasn’t been told that he’s right-handed yet. I can’t even fathom watching him try to field ground balls, scoop throws from Jeter and A-Rod or, God forbid, start a 3-6-3 DP. This sounds to me to be a desperation move by the Yankees who realize now that they are saddled with Damon for 2.5 more years and he is no longer capable of playing the outfield and doesn’t hit enough to be a DH. UGH.
I will admit, however, that Josh Phelps is brutal to watch out there. They need to find someone else. Can Duncan play defense? If so, bring him up and see if he can hit. Man, the Yankee bench is HORRIBLE.
Also, is there any point to having DeSalvo use up a rotation spot at Scranton? He’s obviously not a big-league pitcher. Maybe they can throw him into whatever deal they are going to move Farnsworth in.
Typical 2007 Yanks.
Come off a great win and get blown out.
Have a starter who should be pitching in softball leagues go out and give one huge inning. Nice!
Makes a lot of sense to trade three top arms for a free agent to be who will command 120 mill for 7 yrs.
Exactly what the team needs!
And the bats are silent tonight, as well.
So much for any sign of momentum for NY.
Now the best that can come out of this series is a split.
Albany…
Who are you going to “toss DeSalvo into the deal” with ? A team with a GM who does not watch baseball ? or someone who needs a guy to toss BP ?
Well, this is the inning to make it a game.
% batters before Phelps must do some damage.
*5
I wouldn’t go by what the Orioles think to determine whether or not Britton is any good.
Leo Mazzone loves Jared Wright. Felt he could “fix” him and Britton was the odd man out in the Orioles bullpen.
They still have Chris Ray closing and he gave up his 4th walkoff HR this season yesterday to Vlad. They aren’t exactly pitching smart in Baltimore.
Britton’s problem, as all can see, is his weight. It affects his stamina and his ability to finish his pitches. He loses 25 pounds, he is a guy that can be very effective in the bullpen.
He is only 24. Brian Bruney used to be as big as Britton. He lost the weight and he was able to begin building a career for himself. Chris needs to do the same.
Personally, for Jared Wright, it was a no brainer deal for the Yankees. A risk worth taking because Britton’s upside, if he is weight issues are handled, is quite high.
Albany,
I think the Yanks thought Damon would get to this point eventually but not nearly this quickly. He is basically untradable b/c he can’t play any position, so I think you’re right. They are trying to find somewhere to stick/bury him for another couple years.
Say what you want about Theo but he has evaluated his own talent pretty well, Pedro, Nomar, Damon, Lowe (no longer an AL pitcher)
I’m really glad Cashman chose Igawa over Ted Lilly at this point.
He better have something up his sleeve to get another bat in this lineup. Luckily getting a solid 1b and not giving up the farm isn’t too hard.
We shoulda got Beltran, what a collossal error to get stuck with the unfroze caveman.
Britton is pretty impressive, he’s not overpowering but he keeps the ball down with good movement.
wow. was that a 1-2-3 inning, britton is my new hero!!!
damon cannot play 1st, get this through your heads. if it was so easy and simple, you would see phelps and giambi would sufice (they have been doing it their entire careers)
Great call Nick B since Lowe is in the process of throwing a no hitter.
Dont forget Theo’s great calls on Renteria, Lugo, Drew, Pineiro, Clement
Should I go on?
didn’t the Yanks have Carlos Pena’s body buried somewhere in the minors last year and now he has 11 hrs 29 rbis and .297 avg ? He is playing 1b for Tampa
SJ44,
They were going to pay Wright’s buyout option anyways so they took the best thing they could get. Hopefully he helps out.
The Yanks can’t stray away from every free agent b/c they want long deals. Do you want this team to be the Royals??? A good farm system only provides a few players guys. I don’t think some of you get how few prospects make it to the Bigs and stay there. Very few, and even less have decent MLB careers. Every player you guys think will be good will not make it to the Bigs and if they do they may not pan out.
Damon is a world class athlete. And besides the arm a top of the line outfielder. If anyone can play first base its him.
This isn’t some immoveable RF or a guy who’s shot.
They still need a professional bat in this order no matter who moves where.
Its kind of hard to evaluate the Yankees off tonight.
Matt DeSalvo was the 7th choice to start this game. Karstans, Pavano, Rasner and Hughes are all on the DL. Clemens is out and Igawa is still trying to find himself in the minors.
Its tough to say the entire team is bad off this start. Its probably going to be DeSalvo’s last.
Tough to win games when your starter can’t get out of the second inning.
On Teixera, if Arod walks, Clemens won’t be back, and Abreu is going to be gone after this season, the Yankees are going to have plenty of money to pay him.
How do you not pay a 27 year old power hitter? What are the other options, Josh Phelps?
Its a good deal to make if the price is right. If it doesn’t, you walk away from it.
But, its tough to kill the deal when you don’t know the parts that it will contain.
Curly,
How bout you read what I wrote before being a tool. I said his own talent and Lowe is not an AL pitcher. Ask Pavano what the difference in switching leagues does to you. Renteria was not happy in Boston and wasn’t going to work out there so they traded for Marte who they decided to move for Crisp which didn’t pan out.
damn, alex. where were you going?
Ask the Braves how bad the whole “farm system” thing is Nick B.
I think they’ve had some success over the years, right???
If you scout well. If you draft well. if you take all your resources and invest in the draft in singing top guys who fall because of money issues. You can have a farm system that turns out top talent year after year. Guys who can fill in and become starters. Guys who can become trade bait. The lifeblood of a great team.
A great farm system combined with 250 million every yr means decades of dynasty.
He “strayed” to far off the base…Kays words not mine
this blows
SJ44
Plus there is no other 1B that are franchise building blocks hitting the market the year before or after. You’re right, the move makes sense. I just don’t think Texas will give him away after getting nothing for ARod but Soriano, who they moved for nothing.
Ho-hum…..
Well, at least Britton gets to pitch a few innings!
IMO, Damon won’t be helpful at first this year. If he had an off-season and spring to learn the position, he could be a competent first baseman, IMO.
He’s not the answer for this year. Short term, IMO, its Andy Phillips. Long term? We shall see.
Yeah, Lowe’s not an AL pitcher.
He only pitched the clinching games in every series they won the series. A hard sinker that gets ground balls all game just doesn’t work in the AL. Thats strictly NL.
Forgive me.
and this overrated offense strikes again
Jonah,
My point exactly. I am saying you can’t build just from the farm system (maybe there is an exception with Schurhoeltz) but they also added a lot of decent FA over the years. A lot of people think b/c you are building a farm system you can’t sign any big name free agents to long term deals. You don’t win the WS without big name FA.
Jonah…
NEWSFLASH…..Damon is shot…..
The guy is completely broken down and the rest of his contract will be Giambi-eque
Why not trade Joba Chamberlain for Pujols?
Then you can also trade some of these guys for Santana. And maybe some guys for Reyes and make him the DH.
SJ,
I never considered this, but why not wait until Tex is a FA after this season to sign him to a long-term contract? Are we afraid that another team is going to snap him up first?
Also, how likely is it that Tex will agree to a long term contract if he is traded to us?
I will say this, with Uggulus (who’s 24 or 25) at 1B for Boston, I feel we need to make a move that will set us up in that position for a while (especially if A-Rod is iffy after this season)
Cash can’t go with the “we’ll go with what we got” crap anymore. Phelps is not a good first baseman. Wonder what the Rangers will ask for Tex now. I agree with SJ44 – call up Phillips, he cannot be any worse than Phelps.
Curly,
What year is this? Oh right it’s not 2004 anymore bud.
Britton looks good, no two ways about it.
this is saturday al over again. maybe kay and his gang can talk about the game instead of the damn bird..
terrible pitching from desalvo and villone( he is liek a lifetime high 4 ERA and he is 37) dump him, desalvo is obvious not ready and I doubt he ever will be, and the fielding has benn the usual great. Alex terrible play, he actually could have had the double play home to 1st, and Phelps play was atrocious. The 2 double plays by Phelps just round put his stellar day..
I told you all Britton was worth a chance, 5 innings this yr. 0 runs..
please god eliminate villone and the great vizciano from this team……………………..
Who are the big free agents the Braves have signed?
Greg Maddux in ’92?
Tex isn’t a free agent until AFTER 2008 (not enough ML service)
Tex isn’t free until after 08.
how does Cashman just sit on his hands while the season falls further away each day?
Beltran instead of the broken down Big Mullet was the move, but the Yanks needed someone to take Kevin Browns spot as a miserable failing pitcher who hated being in NY
Yeah, Lowes throwing a no hitter tonight but hes strictly a NL pitcher.
Maybe Wang should get traded to the NL too. Only guys who throw 98 can succeed in the AL. Nick said so.
If Phelps doesnt homer this inning, i will personally go down to Chicago and kick him in his manhood.
This ump is blind
Nick,
I completely agree. I think the Yankees have the right mix of players to get Tex.
Its not the DeSalvo’s et al of the world that you see so many people “pitch” when discussing trades.
For example, a kid like Clippard, who is only 22, and will be a good, #3, #4 starter in the majors, Proctor (they have enough RH arms to absorb his loss) and one of the AA starters (not Kennedy), who are all solid prospects, could do the trick, IMO
Obviously, its going to depend on how big a market Texas has for him.
Remember, Scott Boras is his agent. Boras and the Yankees get along well. Tex can have a bit of control here and that kind of pressure could be helpful to the Yankees.
All I am saying is, its worth going the distance to try and get him because you can build around him, given his age, health and talent.
It will be interesting to see how it shakes out because I think Texas is going to deal him this year.
Carson,
They got a guy named Youk too who might be one of the better 1B in the league. The Sox have a team that could compete for awhile. I bet they are kicking themselves for tying up Drew for so long. Beckett, Dice, Lester are going to be there for awhile.
It makes great sense to trade top prospects that you have been trying to build for a few yrs now for a player you can get for free in a year.
I forgot Cashman totally blew up his blueprint for the Syd Thrift model.
kick him in his manhood is the best line i’ve read all night
That Boston farm system has been great lately too.
Papelbon and anyone else?
Cano seems to be back on track.
Heres his chance.
Jonah,
Once again, read what I wrote. I said DECENT. Plus no one has ever done it but Schuerholtz. If you think you can win simply by having a good farm system you are wrong. Ecspecially with the patience NY fans have with young players. Everybody and their dog wanted to trade Cano and Cabrera earlier this year. You can’t build from within and give up on guys like Clippard after 3 starts.
Youk, Pap, Lester, Pedroia
Boy, it would be nice to have a pitcher who could hold the opposition down like Garland can.
That’s the key, SJ, I don’ think we’d make that trade without an extension to Tex’s contract and that’s the right move. I’ve said before he’d be an immediate upgrade and frees up a roster spot by eliminating the need for a platoon. Then we could keep up KT or someone of that nature that would be a better bench player than someone like Phelps… speed, OF backup, etc, etc..
If we can get him at a reasonable price, well worth it and shores up a key position with a good bat, something we’ve been missing since Giambi stopped being an everyday 1B (which was what, his first or second year here…..). No more platoon.. make the trade.
hit something you rule 5 reject!
Pitching wins championships.
When Texeira actually gets a team to 83 wins, call me.
He’d be a nice addition but hes not going to matter if they keep running guys like Desalvo out there.
Why did Boston win 84 games last yr? because they ran guys out there like Paulley and Dinardo and scrubs like that.
The games a lot easier when Dice K is out there.
There are no words. Could you play worse?
alex’s baserunning is like his fielding sometimes he seems to be a baseball IQ dimwit.
lot of fight from the team tonight?????????????
DISGRACE………
SJ44
Slim chance Boras doesn’t hit the market with Texiera in the winter of 08 also. As he will with ARod this winter. That guy won’t pass up getting the highest payday possible
hey, this is the fearsome yankee offense!
Youklis came from Oaklands system.
Lester has pitched 10 games and is trying to recover from cancer.
Pedroia is a 4A player who cant hit enough to stay in the big leagues. And is in dnager of losing his job to Alex Cora.
Now if you want to argue that Boston used their system for a 26 yr old ace in Beckett. Thats fine. But everyone else was a trade or a free agent. Money.
fer craps sake… someone call Rangers GM Jon Daniels please…?
yeah, tons of “fight” tonight from NY
Also all you farm system guys:
Name 1 POSITION player who will be a perenial All-Star coming out of our farm system in the next 2-3 years. Tabata is going to be here in 2010.
1 GOOD THING HAPPENED TONIGHT.. torre had to use britton he had no other choice so the world can see there are options even for the yanks besides washed up junk relief pitchers with 5 + ERA like Vizciano and VIllone….
this is what it has come to, happy about using a 12th pitcher under 33 yrs old…
Name a Boras client who signed an extension without hitting the market?
It doesn’t happen. I’m sure Cashman can find a bat before July 31.
Cashman will continue to do absolutely, positively nothing and watch the season fall further into obvlivion.
Pedroia looks pretty damn good right now. And Youk was not from Oakland, read Moneyball again, Oakland wanted him but the Sox wouldnt bite.
Nick,
Perhaps, but its worth a shot.
This will be Matt DeSalvo’s last start. It was supposed to be Clemens tonight. What can you do, he wasn’t ready.
He will pitch on Saturday.
No team has enough starting pitching depth to cover all these injuries.
We knew tonight would be shaky.
Like I said earlier, if they split this series, and can sweep the Pirates, its a 5-2 week. That’s a realistic goal to shoot for, IMO.
“I’m sure Cashman can find a bat before July 31.”
if that idiot cashman hasn’t seen fit to try and improve the team by now, he won’t do anything when the yanks are 17 games out of first.
Pedroia was a 2nd round pick a couple years ago and is hitting .338 this year. He sucks.
Lester had a set back. He will be alright.
Youk didn’t come from Oakland, did he? I thought Oakland wanted him, but I could be wrong there.
They have traded a ton of talent these past few years.
One thing about the Yanks, 8/10 minor leaguers they have traded this past decade have not panned out. I always think of Branden Claussen when I think of young players who are SUPPOSED to be good. Or De Paula.
they have been absolutely ripping a-rod all nite man jees.
I have a question for you Nick b.. Name any minor leaguer who will be an all star in 2 yrs????
There are not many are there???
The Yanks have many legit good arms, in the field they are weak but are making improvements…..
the yanks minors leagues are better then Boston ….
The Sox have a decent lineup for a while: I think Beckett will be the ace of that rotation. Dice-K and Lester are still unproven (let’s look past the hype for a second here, people). Buchholz is supposed to be pretty good. Okajima and Papelbon will hold down their pen.
As far as position players, they have a good CF prospect coming up (Ellsbury), and Drew, Ramirez and Pena. Uggulus will be around for a while, along with Pedroia. I don’t think they have a catcher, SS and 3B prospect.
So yeah, they have a pretty damn good lineup there that should be strong for a while. We need to make some moves to stay competitive.
By the way, is Britton holding it down tonight, or what (9 up 9 down so far)? I wonder if Torre knows his name now.. Then again, Bruney had to throw like 18 scoreless innings before Torre was introduced to him.
Whos saying we have a great system?
Thats the problem, Chief. We dont have a great system. We dont have guys down there like Salty, McCann, Thorman, Francuer, etc who can be plugged in and start and thrive and become all stars. Youngsters who can play.
If we did we could combine the fearsome power of money plus kids to be a beast. They way it should be. If we keep neglecting the farm system we’re going to be the Baltimore Orioles of the past decade.
No one is saying demote everyone and start over and give jobs to the Scranton people.
One of the big problems we have right now is that we have no future all stars in Scranton.
“Like I said earlier, if they split this series, and can sweep the Pirates, its a 5-2 week. That’s a realistic goal to shoot for, IMO.”
why would anybody in their right mind think NY will sweep the Pirates?
for that matter, why would anybody think the yanks will win the next 2 out of 3 to split this series? The first game was the crucial one in a four game series.
Nick B want to bet who ends the season with a better avg. pedroia or Cano??????????????
In 2001, the Boston Red Sox drafted Youkilis in the 8th round (243rd overall).
When was the last time this team got a sweep?
And the Pirates have a better record for christsakes!
Hmm. I should stop jinxing him.
And a shot of Vizcaino warming up in the bullpen. Now I’m truly depressed.
Was there ever any explanation for why there are 7 games i Chicago, but I don’t think Chisox come to NY?
Stuart,
My bad. I meant on the team who will eventually be all-stars, ala Cano. Didn’t mean be on the All-Star team in 2 years. There aren’t many position players who are coming up that have much promise
so now britton is burned out for a few days in a mop-up role and it will be that dud proctor with the game on the line.
Britton brainfarted on that 0-2 pitch to Konerko. Overall he was good though.
Stuart,
I bet Pedroia hits better than Cano did in 05, his rookie year.
Dice K is far from unproven.
Hes been a top of the line talent since hes been 17 yrs old and a guy with 90 plus stuff and his command will make a pretty solid adjustment to the American game.
Pedroia won’t hit .250. Cora will be starting fulltime by July.
Jonah,
Thats exactly what I was trying to say. Its good to build from within but you can’t run away from any FA that wants a 4+ year deal ecspecially when they are 27
the Yankees draft this month will be all position players is my guess….
“When was the last time this team got a sweep?
And the Pirates have a better record for christsakes!”
people here are delusional, i guess.
yanks lose 3 out of 4 to the white sox and win 2 out of 3 vs the pirates, imo.
How do you know Cashman isn’t doing anything? Do you watch him work everyday.
Geez, stop crying like a little baby. Its a Matt DeSalvo start. How many teams win games when their starter can’t get out of the second inning?
‘Ya think the game situations change when a pitcher has a 4 run lead?
Geez, new screen name, still bangin’ on Cashman. I doubt he is doing “nothing”. He just can’t manufacture players at the drop of a hat.
This had all the earmarks of a loss going into tonight. You can’t actually believe the pitching matchup was in the Yankees favor.
Britton did his job. He gave up one run. Big deal. Good outing for him.
This game was lost when the starter couldn’t get the job done.
Wasn’t Youkilis drafted by the A’s?????
You got that right Pete. This game should not have been played. A 8 pm east coast game yesterday, fly out to Chicago and play another one today? Talk about squeezing advertising dollars. Part of being the Yanks I suppose… probably wouldn’t see this kinda crap with the Royals.
I’d let Okajima and Papelbon pitch at least say…hmmm.. half a season before I crown them a top bullpen.
Everytime Papelbon throws a pitch every Red Sox fan cringes knowing he doesnt have many bullets in that shoulder.
Jonak are you an idiot,
Youk got drafted by the Sox in ’01, Lester had freaking cancer and has had 6 months to recover and is pitching well in the minors and Pedroia is hitting better than half our team. Make some freaking sense before you post
If you guys say you wouldn’t take Dice-K right now you are crazy. We have stupid Igawa locked up about just as long and Dice-K only cost twice as much against the cap. I’d take another several million on the payroll to have someone actually pitch MLB games
Stuart,
No, Beane named him the Greek God of Walks in the book.
I could have sworn Youk was drafted by the A’s but I’ll take your word for it. Damn you Michael Lewis and your Moneyball!
I say again: In 2001, the Boston Red Sox drafted Youkilis in the 8th round (243rd overall).
“reference link”:http://www.thebaseballcube.com.....ilis.shtml
SJ44 you are right but part of the reason there starter could not get things done was the very poor fielding, bad hitting, and poor baserunning.
a 3 to 1 game instead of 6 – 1 changes everything.
my complaint is the little things such as Britton not being used and retreads(Villone does qualify as one) keep getting chences and we cannot get rid of vizciano under any circumstances..
big trades I know are very hard and if they include any really good prospects I am not interested in..
if Britton is a decent bullpen guy that gives them an additional option …
I’ll eat my words on Britton tonight. He stepped up. I was wrong on that one so far
I said Lester had cancer. So I think we can take a little time before proclaiming him a top pitcher.
If you think pedroia is an all star you obviously don’t watch any baseball and don’t read any scouting reports.
Alright, Johnny B?
well, now it’s mlb’s fault. let’s see if Boston just packs it in tonight or if they actually try to win a ballgame!
Jonah,
He was a 2nd round pick 2 years ago, maybe 3 and is batting .338 as a rookie. What do you expect?
A rotation of Wang, Hughes and Dice K for the next 6 years. All under 27.
When can you ever get a front of the rotation starter in his prime on the free agent market?
When the GM says his new import is a 5th starter, you know something was really wrong there.
I don’t know what scouting reports you are reading but I think they all say he is going to be pretty good.
Why the hell are we comparing Igawa to Dice-K? Both were BAD deals. Look at Dice-K’s ERA. Who’s to say one of our good pitching prospects won’t be better than him?
Paying 100m for the way Dice-K is playing right now is a stretch. Also remember that Japanese pitchers’ careers don’t last as long because of how much they throw when they are younger.
You can’t validate a deal by saying it’s better than another bad one (in this case, Igawa)
I just had a great idea! The Yankees should buy Desalvo a small apartment outside Safeco. Then, they should rent him out every 5 days to the team playing the Mariners. Can you say Cy Young? They could use the revenue to buy DeSalvo a whole library and have some money left over to send Villone, Vizcaino, and Farnsworth to an island somewhere.
hmmmm
avg .336 obp .411 slg .478 ops .889
9 Ks in 134 ABs
Solid defense
Every scouting report says he has hit .300 or better at every level, what scouting reports are you reading
ugh
ESPn shows Youkilis as undrafted…..
Peter the schedule does suck but the Yankees did not show up tonight for a change…
c’mon arod – get us back in this!
JohnnyBDamon,
I hate the Sox, but Jonah is an idiot on that one. I don’t know who will be better him or Cano. I think Cano b/c he’ll develop more power but I think a lot of teams would take either one
If you are Cashman….
Mo and Posada ?
How many year deals do they get ?
I forgot. Just because players are high draft picks make them all stars in baseball. Good of you to remind me.
I’ll say it again. Cora is starting at 2b at the all star break.
When the best word about him is dependable you can stop the all star write in campaigns in the future.
Stuart,
Go to sunny’s link
The Yankees are so good at making mediocre/average pitchers look good, they could probably get shut down by DeSalvo.
“Its a Matt DeSalvo start. How many teams win games when their starter can’t get out of the second inning?”
Bull****…the yanks were owned by Garland last time, too. NY didn’t come to play, plain and simple. they gave up, packed it in, didn’t try, etc.
I’m not saying Cano isn’t better now or will be but to say Pedroia isn’t playing well now and that Cora will be the starter is just ignorant
Nick you’re an idiot.
You cant tell me you actually have watched Cano hit and play over the past 2 seasons and think that Dustin Pedroia is a better player.
Take the dunce cap off jerk. Along with your Sox hat.
Jonah, do you know much about Pedroia? His contact rates in amateur and minor league ball were great. he has a good eye and makes contact, and hits the ball hard for a “little” guy. He is obviously going to be a good player if he stays healthy (tough foa 2b over time). He will likely not hit .330, and could have a bad stretch in a small sample (like the way he started April), but the odds are he is a keeper. I like Cano, but I’d deal him for Pedroaia. in 2-3 years I may look foolish for that, but I wouldn’t assume he’ll be a sub-.250 bust.
Jonah,
Pedroia is the 2nd baseman of the future for them. He is good, did you watch the weekend series. I’m not saying every 2nd round pick pans out but when they move through the minors as quickly as he did and start out hitting over .320 in their first few months, I think he might be alright.
No GM in there right mind would take Pedrooia over Cano. Cano will win batting titles. Peddy may end up being Mark Loretta.
the red sox clones are delusional. Youkilis this great player is 28, ther whole infield is 31 +, there outiel i mnny 34, rew 30+, n crip(he stink). they have a $100 + mill. pitcher who appears to be very talented but as of yet has proven almost nothing.
they are not this dynazty so get over it already, they finished in 3rd last yr.
“they are not this dynazty so get over it already, they finished in 3rd last yr.”
uh, they won the divison this year.
Hey, Mo, there is already a Mo!
1) I didn’t say anywhere he was better. I said I don’t know who will be better over the long run but that I thought Cano would be b/c he can hit for power
2) Thats right, I’m a Sox fan b/c I can be objective over how good a player is. I forgot the only good players in MLB play for the Yanks. Grow up.
i think part of the offensive hiccups have been with these rookie pitchers. these subpar rooks just cant give a team any energy or motivation… you almost give up before you even start the game
Cano is going to be a superstar.
wow, what an offensive showing tonight! this team is just a hair away from turning the corner! go yanks!
Dusty blows Cano away.
Mo #2,
I don’t think so either. Cano isn’t a great defensive player but thats fine at 2B. Not a bad position to have an average defender. Bowa has really helped him out with that though and hopefully Bowa stays to continue helping him
“Cano is going to be a superstar.”
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Cano is lazy in the field and has no plate discipline. And he won’t come close to .300 this year.
Pedroia has had a good last 15-20 games.
Remember he was hitting a buck 72 20 games ago.
I wouldn’t compare him to Cano here.
Why do we get so angry at the sox fans?
face it guys
WE SUCK, and we have earned their emnity for being arrogant pricks all these years.
Lets take our medicine like men.
Watch them load the bases so Phelps can hit into a triple play.
will boston at least try to win their ballgame tonight?
Mo,
Very true. That was his first month though. He’s not as good as .338 but I would say he’ll be a very good MLB player for 5-7
The way some guys here cream over Pedroia you would think he’s the reason they got a 13 game lead.
Good to have guys making the minimum making a contribution but again its that one word
Pitching
this is an easy lineup to shut down, my friends.
I forgot Cano is a seasoned veteran who has shown great plate discipline his whole career and is untouchable.
I had forgotten that starters are allowed to pitch the ninth.
I hate when the Sox win but you have to say they have good players too. I wish Shilling would fall off the face of the earth and I think Youk is one of the ugliest people on the planet but they do have some talent + a decent farm system and an increasing payroll. I would say the Yanks have some work to do this year and next to be able to compete for a WS again. Boston may get one this year.
Pedroia named A.L. rookie of the month, maybe he is on his way to rookie of the year.
“Good to have guys making the minimum making a contribution but again its that one word”
it’s just that so few guys on the yanks seem to even want to try and make a positive contribution to the team.
20 games out on July 1.
Thanks Nick for showing everyone that Yankee fans can be sensible when discussing their team. And realizing that Cano is not Pedroia because hes lazy. Thanks.
Cmon Youks isn’t even the ugliest guy on his own team, have you seen Julian.
c’mon, fans! be proud of your yankees tonight! they left it all out on that field…mlb was just too mean by making them play this game.
Go Sox,
I didn’t say Cano wasn’t as good but may not ever be a great fielder. Pedroia is a good #2 hitter while Cano will eventually hit in the 3-5 hole.
Maybe Cashman can be made the minor league coordinator because hes actually started to improve that area in terms of talent. But he doesn’t know crap about the big league team especially pitching.
You can’t have winning streaks when you got a guy on the hill who can’t throw a strike and when he does its batting practice.
Johnny,
True, you guys might have one of the ugliest teams in MLB history. The Yanks get a lot of hot chicks at there games to watch Jeter and ARod at least. Always helps when the game isn’t going well.
Nobody is uglier than shemp guys, cmon we have the ugliet one of all!
and, folks, remember that DeSalvo was actually favorably thought of, along with stiffs like Rasner and Karstens and Wright. so don’t expect much from heralded guys now in AA ball.
You’re calling Sox women fans ugly?
cano has a great contact rate, too. More power. He probbaly has more upside, but he takes ver few walks. I may have been wrong, but Pedroia is not chopped liver.
If he finishes at .411/.478, that compares decently to Cano’s .360+ .525 last year at same age.
Cano’s lower avg this year is due to odds, conisdering he does not walk at all, and pitchers learning that. OBS is an underrated stat.
Bottom line is they are both relative kids who could be very special. But I was perhaps wrong in suggesting you trade Robby for Dusty.
can I get a rally………..
DP time!!!!!
Is it me or is Phelps standing 50 yards from the plate?
Mo,
Cash has very little to do with scouting and evaluating talent. He has a great support staff around him for that. He makes the executive decision after hearing what people say. One reason the Yanks have gotten a lot of prospects is b/c they can afford to sign a lot of 1st rounders people pass on b/c of signability.
Are you people idiots? Cano is an All-Star RIGHT NOW. He is 1st in all star voting this year, and I don’t see anyone passing him. His 3rd (or is it 2nd?) year as a Yankee, and he is an All-Star.
Are you actually comparing him to the 5’5″ runt who can barely swing the bat? Last year, Cano was competing for the batting title. His official 2nd year, but really the 1st year he had full playing time. Cano is better defensively, he is smoother, but has a tendency to get lackadaisical at times. Reminds me of Andruw Jones, except infield.
If you’re trying to make an argument, at least try making sense, instead of saying “Yeah, Pedroia hit a lot of balls, he is best evar!”
Mazal Tov!!!!!!
To that prick who laughed at the Cano will be a superstar sh** why don’t you go tell that to Francona who likened him to Rod Carew. In his rookie season Carew hit .292 with 8 homers and 51 RBI in 137 games… in his rookie season Cano hit .297 with 14 homers and 62 RBI in 132 games.
Go Sox,
No, just saying it may help to not have guys that look like they live on the streets. I know way more chicks who love Jeter & ARod than Manny and Big Pappi
Its good we have_____________ to bring in here as a pinch hitter.
Seven game stretch.
They need 5-2.
oooh, such a thrilling rally! lol.
Carson,
No Yankee fan said that. The point was that Pedroia isn’t garbage. Cano isn’t a great fielder but is going to be a better power hitter. I think they will both be +.300 hitters though
Yankees never win a game that comes right after a Red Sox series.
The odds were against the Yanks for this one. I knew they would lose. The White Sox were due for a win with the week they just had and the Yanks have the Red Sox hangover.
Tomorrow will be better. This one was a loss before the game even started.
BUT, it was great to see Britton pitch and hopefully Cashman was paying attention and we keep him around for a bit.
You know how many chicks Ortiz could pull in the Northeast area??
“Seven game stretch.
They need 5-2.”
AND NO WAY IN HECK THEY GET IT.
Haha, now they get a sac fly.
“Tomorrow will be better. This one was a loss before the game even started.”
sure it was, marius. keep telling yourself that to justify a sh**** performance. and see if Boston just rolls over tonight like NY did.
“The problem then is they don’t have anybody to DH.” P.A.
dare I drop the name bernie williams? again, not signing him seems again like a glaring mistake.
re: tonight’s game
why do they just let themselves off the hook night after night? it’s like – oh the rookie pitcher couldn’t hold it together so let’s just lay down and lose. tomorrow’s another game. it’s sickening.
what’s it going to take to wake them up already!?!?
if last night couldn’t – then i am beginning to wonder.
SJ44,
You are getting the sports talk radio guys as a following. The guys who read/hear something and make it their own opinion even though they don’t know what they are talking about. You are probably the best commenter on the blog, I’m just saying its funny to read people recite what you wrote in earlier post and watch them try to argue it.
Yanks need a couple hitter like Pedroia.
what a f****** embarassing team. did any of you morons watch chicago recently and see just how pathetic they’ve been playing? well, the yanks will fix that!
Go Sox,
What MLB star has a problem with chicks?
Umm, I think Boston IS in the “Northeast area,” so why don’t you tell us how many chicks big sloppi pulls………
“it’s like – oh the rookie pitcher couldn’t hold it together so let’s just lay down and lose.”
that’s what geniuses like SJ think.
The Jeter at-bat will be a major let down.
Yankees are great. They just never say die.
6 – 1 and now it’s 4 – with the tying run at the plate.
What a team!! GO YANKEES!!
Marius,
The Yanks do need a few role players that are willing to do the little things like Tadihito Iguchi/Pedroia or a guy that can pinch hit/play outfield in the 8th or 9th. Guys who will sacrifice, bunt, or just do the little things. Brosius and O’Neil were kind of guys like that.
Fireworks for that sh**?
Jetes is in one hell of a slump, if nobody noticed.
94
Jeter went 0-5. Think he should go too? He done?
“Yankees are great. They just never say die.”
BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!! It’s just another LOSS in the books, my boy…just one of the many. lol!
MARIUS IS A DOLT!
ENJOY THE LOSS, NUMBNUTS?
Prince Fielder sure caught ARod fast. Can he play 1st at all? I always see him as a DH in the AL but maybe he can be a 1st baseman for awhile?
DH Matsui. His routes to balls this year have left something to be desired. His arm isn’t that great, either. Put KT in LF. At least you’d have some OF speed with KT in LF and Melky in CF.
They are 24-31, what could it hurt?
Go Sox,
You seem like a normal Sox fan but your idiot sidekicks from Boston are coming so there goes any intelligent converstaion.
Captain Clutch seems to be in a mini-slump lately.
By the way, has anyone else noticed that it’s been raining trolls around here since yesterday? Funny how insecure they get after losing 2 series in a row.
and this “easy” june schedule is now kicking the yanks ass!
Mike S.
Damon? I don’t like him either but you gotta play him and he’s a long way away from play 1B
Role players are such bullsh*t.
Great pitching makes role players.
Brosius became a little better when he had Cone, Wells, Nelson, Rivera, Stanton, Mendoza on the hill.
If you had any 2b out there tonight besides Iguchi they win because Garland went 8 innings.
What Yankee starter has gone 8 innings lately?
The Yanks were flat as a pancake tonight until too little too late in the ninth.
At least they got shut down by a good starting pitcher (Garland) and not some guy with a 7+ ERA.
I dont mind this loss that much. It was a long, hard fought game last night and we definatly showed some fight tonight. After they get a good rest tonight, I am almost positive we can take the next 3. Mark my words.
Wang.
Nick, exactly what the Yankees are missing now. The winning teams of the past, had the guys who would get down and get hits, move guys along. They don’t have that anymore. You need the non-all star runts coming in and playing the game.
Nick I like you. You have sense. You know enough to realize who has the much better team and the better second baseman.
The question was who would DH should Damon play 1b. I’m not sold on Johnny at 1b….but he has to get out of CF…Scary to think of JD’s weak arm in CF for two more years. Bernie’s arm the past few years was bad enough.
bad plays early in the game count just as much as later in the game..
the Yanks looked lethargic tonight, another bad loss…
at least Britton got in before they send him down because the V boys are better options now and in the future!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I normally never respond to Sox trolls. However, nowayyankswinthisgame aka yanksaregutless has officially won the a-hole award for the year, so i couldnt help but speak up to congratulate him. His childishness has surpassed the bounds that human beings were thought to have. With every word, he sets a new standard for individuals who clearly lead very productive lives, going to sites of a team that is not theirs and posting idiotic, poorly written, irrational thoughts. A new day has dawned. I had a dream, that all trolls were not created equal, that one would pass above all the rest to become….the one. As the years flew by, my hopes began to wane. Would he ever show himself? Alas that day is here, and those of us who observed it will never forget it. The torch has been passed to a new generation of trolls. Godspeed to hell, young man, godspeed.
Point is, in 2008….Damon…Matsui…Giambi…you have 3 guys who should be DHs and you can only put one there.
If I have to watch DeSalvo throw another pitch in pinstripes I may puke.
Why play Damon at 1b when you HAVE to play Phelps everyday anyway????
They’re going to need a right handed bat on this team. Like yesterday.
“If I have to watch DeSalvo throw another pitch in pinstripes I may puke.”
That’s who Cashman and Torre saw fit to start the game. Nobody else in AA or AAA would have been a worse option. But that is who they chose to represent the team.
Enjoy this season!
Why even respond to the trolls? Don’t we have more important things to worry about here? Like winning 2 games in a row?
what is the odds they send Britton down and keep the V boys around?????
WHat are the odds guys… again why keep a guy with a under 1 ERA in the minors on the big club isn’t Scranton in the playoff hunt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like men with hairy backs.
The Yanks looked lethargic?
Who wouldn’t seeing your starter give 1 inning of baseball before being pulled?
“what is the odds they send Britton down and keep the V boys around?????”
ABOUT 1,000,000,000 TO 1. Brian Cashman is not concerned with making this team better. Otherwise, Vizcaino would be gone already. The whole organization has given up on this season, as have the the players.
You have a GM who doesn’t care about winning, folks. Get used to the Phelps’ and Vizcaino’s of the world, they aren’t going anywhere.
I still like hairy backs.
Serious question. What kind of deadbeat spends their night on a Yankee blog if they’re a Sox fan?
Do you not have any buddies? Can’t grab a beer? No girlfriend? Can’t even afford a movie?
If it wasn’t so sad I’d laugh more at you.
Sure now AAAA Phelps can hit in the 9th when it means nothing. Torre gave up this game from the second he named garbage Desalvo the starter. The defense was awful in that inning BUT Delsalvo threw every single pitch right down the middle. Did they actually expect him to do any better then he did?? He was garbage in the minors and has been the same here except against the dreadful Mariners. As soon and as the Yanks went down by a couple of runs they gave up.
They better bring up someone to play 1st base. Phelps absolutely can not field even when the ball is thrown right to him, he is worse then Giambi. He also can not hit right handed pitching. I am sure they can find someone that can catch the ball at 1st. He is an embarrassment, cost them the game, get him out of here.
That’s swell. Blame the backup 1b for the loss and not the starter who couldn’t get out of the 2nd.
Makes sense I guess.
“They better bring up someone to play 1st base. Phelps absolutely can not field even when the ball is thrown right to him, he is worse then Giambi.”
No moves are going to be made, pal. They expect you to suffer watching baseball like this the entire summer. Cashman doesn’t care and George is just too sick to do anything about it.
pete, you shouldn’t be making excuses for guys who get payed millions to do this. they got in at five it’s not like they only got an hour of sleep. they could still get 10 hours of sleep if they wanted.
Trolls, if you are going to come here, please keep the language civil. Go blow up Nomaas instead if you want to talk that way.
Maybe we should setup a dedicated thread just for the Trolls to hang out in. ha!
BTW, O’Neill and Girardi pretty much called the Yanks “quitters” tonight. And they also questioned the team’s “heart” again.
wow, most pathetic guy on the internet.
Let the little troll have his say. The Red Sox endured this for 86 years of fail watching the Yankees win year after year.
They deserve some time to be the punks they are when their team finally does it right for once.
We have one off year, but their team has a long history of off years and failed seasons.
So go at it, little punk. This may not last long, so enjoy it while you can.
Of course, it is obvious who that is and he is one that laughed hysterically when Lidle died.
That’s swell. Blame the backup 1b for the loss and not the starter who couldn’t get out of the 2nd.
Makes sense I guess.
Did anyone really think that Desalvo was going to do any better then he did??!! Why would anyone think that he would since he hasnt gotten anyone out the last couple of times the Yanks threw him out there. When you pitch garbage that is what you get.
Are O’Neill and Girardi “trolls,” too, for questioning the team and it’s desire to win?
No. Trolls are little cowards who sit in the safety of their home and get happiness from being an immature moron trying to annoy other people.
Trolls are people who have little in their life and usually hate themselves and have no other way to get attention other than annoying other people. They aren’t smart enough to join in the discussion so they just act like…. well, you.
Enjoy the season, Marius.
I’m sure Cashman won’t let guys like Vizcaino and Phelps infect this team one more day! What GM in his right mind would let guys like that stay on the team?
Peter is right behind Damon in the postgame interview.
What’cha writing there, Pete?
nowayyankswinthisgame,
Why do you like men with hairy backs?
I am enjoying the season. Win or lose, I love watching baseball. Rather have this than nothing at all.
When I was growing up, the Yankees sucked and never won. Every year won’t be a winning year. There will be off years and you as a Red Sox fan should know that.
Also, wouldn’t you rather people pay attention to you for positive things you do? What exactly do you get out of this, other than hundreds of people looking at you like a coward and a fool?
Please disregard that stuff I said about Disalvo being able to get hitters out. Looks like I picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue.
“There will be off years”
Yes, there will. But the GM should do everything in his power to see that it doesn’t happen. And something is wrong when he does NOTHING to rid the team of subpar performers like Vizcaino or Phelps.
This is Cash’s quote from a news report on the upcoming draft: “The way to access those types of players is that you have to bomb out and that you rebuild, and that speeds up the process. We’re going to get a good player at 30, and we believe we’ll get a good player at 94. There’s enough talent in the Draft, but there’s some significant talent in the front end.”
So we’re all going according to plan, folks. Cash wants us to bomb out so that we get a great draft pick and rebuild.
I like hairy backs and sweaty ones too.
Off years? Not if you want to keep your jobs and keep building something.
Its about reloading. Not rebuilding. There is nothing guaranteed in a rebuilding program.
Ask the Pirates how thats going. They “rebuilt” after Bonds, Bonillia, and Van Slyke left.
MLB Rule clarification:
Can a pitcher be removed, take another position, and later in the game pitch again?
I’m not here and a fan to just watch some good baseball and have fun. Fun is winning. And this team has too much talent and resources to throw away a season. This isn’t the NBA where you tank for instant success of draft picks. You can rebuild and reload at the same time.
Troll, what can he do now in June? It isn’t like other teams are offering players for a trade. Certainly something will be done, but he can’t perform miracles and you have to go with what you have till something can be done.
Every year Cashman does something and it works.
What exactly should he do?
Maybe you know and should share with us. If you are going to be all big and bad, then back it up with some intellect too.
this “butcher” notion is hysterical… and accurate. i’m struggling to think of worse. i think balboni was better. maybe sign petitone?? who played first in the boston media game??????????
study in human nature, one wonders if bernie williams made first base a winter project…
feel bad for phelps. he’s trying too hard but seemingly just doesn’t have the assets. perhaps we can trade for jack cust.
Marius,
Why are you even talking to the troll?
All he wants is a rise out of you. Smarten up.
Phelps is a backup 1b and a DH. I really think we can find some others to blame for the crappy season.
Pepitone – sorry (for benefit of the younger guys).
Hey nowayyankswinthisgame, you got nothing better to do with your worthless existence then sit on this board and bother people? Get a life tough guy and come back after the Sox can claim 26 World Series wins.
I agree that Phelps isn’t the whole problem, but it really is amazing how bad he is out there and how much he highlights just how bad Jeter and ARod’s accuracy have gotten in the field. Without Minky those two are going to have many many more errors. I think Giambi was a better first baseman, which is REALLY saying something.
Joonah, and he won’t get a rise out of me.
I feel sorry for him as I do all trolls.
Maybe if we engage him in actual discussion he will see that it’s more fun than what he is doing now. If not, then it’s his life he has to go back to and continue being miserable.
Johnny B; yes, it’s been done before. If you run out of players and have two pitchers on the field, you can alternate between the two from batter to batter if you wanted. One pitches, the other plays the field.
its easy for these red sox fans to come on a blog and talk S__t. They probbaly sit in their mother’s baement thinking all day what they can say to the people on the yankees board. Come on, a guy actually said “You know how many girls Ortiz can pull in the northeast?” what is that guy his wing man or something, get a life, we need to not respond to these posts unless they actually have good reference points or something constructive.
sting
June 4th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
well, now it’s mlb’s fault. let’s see if Boston just packs it in tonight or if they actually try to win a ballgame!
yanksaregutless
June 4th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
c’mon, fans! be proud of your yankees tonight! they left it all out on that field…mlb was just too mean by making them play this game.
nowayyankswinthisgame
June 4th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
see if Boston just rolls over tonight like NY did.
packed, rolled, and beaten.
I guess they did.
BostonDirtDogs.com:
“Coast-to-Toast
Time is a Drag for Road Sox
A’s Take Advantage of Schedule, 5-4 in 11th Hour”