Game 67: Mets at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 17, 2007 
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Here are the lineups:
YANKEES
Damon DH
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Posada C
Matsui LF
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Cairo 1B
Wang RHP
METS
Reyes SS
Lo Duca C
Beltran CF
Wright 3B
Delgado 1B
Valentin DH
Green RF
Gotay 2B
Gomez LF
Hernandez RHP
Pregame chatter: The Yankees have their 10th round pick, Carmen Angelini, here on a recruiting trip. He has a locker and will work out during BP. They’re trying to buy him out of going to Rice and I suspect they will based on his wide-eyed wonder. He’s a SS.
Back later with more.
What’s happening with the Mets? Keep an eye on the LoHud Mets blog.
UPDATE, 8:12 p.m.: It’s a summery 87 degrees at first pitch. Happy Father’s Day to everybody out there and good luck with the cogent analysis of Joe Morgan.
In terms of updates, Joe Torre said it would be Kei Igawa on Friday against the Giants. They haven’t decided for sure whether Jorge Posada will play first on Tuesday but it looks that way. Torre also seems to be leaning to Melky Cabrera in center against the Rockies.
UPDATE, 8:29 p.m.: You can’t leave an 2-0 pitch up and over the plate to Alex Rodriguez when he’s going bad, never mind when he’s hot. He now has 25 RBI and seven homers in the last 12 games. The Player of the Month in April is going to be the Player of the Month in June.
Here’s the question, do you stay with the Yankees because this is clearly the lineup for you to become the greatest player in modern times and hit 800 home runs? Or do you opt out because your value will never be higher?
That’s for after the World Series to decide. For now, we could see what a 160 RBI season looks like.
UPDATE, 9:01 p.m.: It’s not a good night so far for those who believe Chien-Ming Wang isn’t an ace and that Josh Phelps should be playing first base.
The Yankees are going to wear El Duque out. He threw 46 pitches in two innings.
UPDATE, 9:44 p.m.: The Wanger has allowed 11 earned runs in his last 48 innings. After a 1-3, 5.40 start, he has been terrific.
He’s also striking out more hitters (25 in his last 49 innings) as his slider gets sharper. After burying two-seamers, he changes the eye level of the hitter with his slider and he gets a lot of swing and misses as a result.
It’s going to be great to see him pitch in San Francisco next week with all the Taiwanese fans there.
UPDATE, 9:56 p.m.: A 3-6-3 against Jose Reyes. Seriously, let’s get Cairo out of there as soon as possible.
UPDATE, 10:31 p.m.: On a night when Scott Proctor isn’t available (supposedly) and Torre wants to stay away from Mariano Rivera, Wang is delivering the goods by working into the eighth inning. With a day off tomorrow, it sets the bullpen up well for the road trip.
UPDATE, 10:36 p.m.: The 8 Ks matches a career high for CMW.
UPDATE, 10:30 p.m.: Hideki Matsui is 13 of 33 on the homestand with 13 RBI. He has been quietly coming on … That’s 10 Ks for the Taiwanese Terror. The 2-2 pitch to Reyes was 97 and he fanned him with a 96-mph heater.
UPDATE, 10:44 p.m.: I’m calling it. Way out to center here by Alex.
UPDATE, 10:47 p.m.: Double to left. I knew he’d hit Aaron Heilman. A-Rod is 28 of 60 in the last 12 games.
UPDATE, 10:52 p.m.: An 8-1 homestand. I wrote back in Chicago that they had a stretch coming up when they could (and should) make up ground. Now they have a chance for a 6-3 road trip. The idea is to win series and that five in a row for them.
UPDATE, 11:01: I’m a little surprised at this. 8-1 in the 8th isn’t a bad time to give Ron Villone or Sean Henn some work. Wang is at 104 pitches. He is getting an extra day off before his next start, so perhaps that is why.
UPDATE, 11:07 p.m.: Bad job by Torre. Get Wang out after that strikeout of Reyes. But he leaves him in and now he’s pulling him for the lefty and denying him the complete game.
In the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t matter. But that was two silly moves. Let Villone or Henn pitch the ninth and get Wang out on a good note.
Back later with some audio. Thanks for reading tonight.
Pete, why would we care about what’s going on with the Muts?
They can be summed up in one sentence: coked out in the 80′s, ‘roided up in the 90′s, playing in an awful league in the 00′s.
I just looked at the blog and there are hardly any comments on it. This blog ROCKS!!
Pete your blog is better.
Angelini is a SS? hmmm Jeter is going to be 33, are the Yankees preparing for a change down the line?
stop with the shameless Mets promo. WE DON”T CARE. Why give the Mets a click. Stop peddling the Mets and dissing Phelps at every turn and report the news!
Pete,
I know the coventional wisdom is that the Yanks are better off without him,and it seems everyone loves to kick a dog who’s down, but I’ve always liked Jason Giambi. How do you think this whole thing plays out? Does he still have a future in the Bronx?
Hey, Carmen Angelini sounds like he was a bit actor in the last Soprano’s but he would be an awesome sign. Great potential, real heads up shortstop out of high school with a ride to Rice. We took a chance and drafted him in the 10th round with hopes of signing him. It looks like we have the real “full court press” on to do this by inviting him to the Stadium and taking BP etc. Let’s hope it works cause this kid is the goods! If he goes to Rice he’ll be a first rounder in 3 years and we’ll never be able to sign him then.
Just looking at the lineup – My gosh, we have a potent lineup! And if we do get Texiera – I know, daydreaming – that would, what, put Matsui hitting seventh?
The position players are not what’s going to determine where we end up. It does always come down to pitching. And putting 4 reliable guys out there every 5 days, and maybe putting someone out there on day #5 who can cooperate with the program, puts us in a good position. Not many teams can make that statement about their pitching.
I recommend sending the kid to the VIP room at Scores Gentleman’s Club. I’m sure ARod has all access pass and as a big bonus they also have wifi.
Dr. Acula –
Good comeback.
or since he might take Jeters spot one day at SS maybe Jeter should show him around town. This kid might not have time to play though if he has to catch up to Jeters womanizing level, lol.
Angelini is a stud out of high school. One of the best position prospects coming out of high school. Reason he dropped so low was because of his “asking price” that would convince him to forego college. This is one of those situations where the Yanks MUST use their financial resources to sign this kid. Once again, he’s a stud.
Anyone have a scouting report or stats or anything on Angelini?
Not putting Damon on the DL is the height of ignorance.
Jeter’s girls sure are pretty, but they seem low key.
Ya gotta have some zeal, some snap, some OOMPH
he may wanna try some hip hop clubs.
just read this on the NY times blog. pretty funny
“In the players’ lot, each player’s space is noted by his number painted on the asphalt. Yesterday, a couple of hours after the game, only one car was left: a silver Mercedes SUV. It had a Florida license plate surrounded by a license-plate frame that said “Montrealâ€?. Which player most recently played for Montreal and Florida?
Oh, right, Carl Pavano. He had Tommy John surgery on June 5. He hasn’t been seen around his teammates since. But he’s still taking up a spot in their parking lot. The funniest thing about it is that the Yankees have already painted over his number. The new number assigned to Pavano’s spot? 22 — as in Roger Clemens.
I have no idea how Clemens comes to the games now. I’m quite sure he can get where he wants to go without a problem. But could you imagine Roger rolling down the Deegan in his burnt-orange Hummer, pulling into the players’ lot and seeing Pavano’s car in his space? Hilarious.”
i laughed out loud imagining that scenario. classic
I’m so sick of the Mets keep taking 2 out 3 from us. El Duque pitched a hell of a game. And that Jose Reyes stole 3 bases again. I guess Wang just didn’t have it tonight. Now back to 9.5 behind the Sox.
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Jinx- I dont know what youve been smokin but the game hasnt even started yet!
He’s trying to do a reverse jinx.
Leave it to Pavano, even his car is a dead beat.
I hope some chop-shop hears about this.
What happened to the Porsche he was driving? Oh, thats right, the garbage truck!
My prediction for Wang tonight:
7.2 innings, 2 runs, 6 hits, 4 Ks
Just to clear the air, John Miller is an idiot
I think Lo Duca is auditioning for some Broadway play
El Duque:
7 innings, 0 runs, 1 hit, 1 BB, 10 Ks
Heilman/Feliciano/Smith
1 inning, 0 runs, 0 hit, 3 Ks
Wagner
1 inning, 0 runs, 0 hit, 3 Ks
Reyes:
4/4, 1 HR
Wright
4/5, 2 HR
Do you think Clemens has passed on the tradition of pegging Met catchers from one generation to the next???
I don’t think Jorge should dig in too deep!!
Which whiney woman is he gonna play?
any word if any Yankees are participating in the homerun derby?
hopefully no Yankees participate
Thats what i’m hoping, it seems to really screw players up. bobby 2 years ago, and david wright last year.
Peter…good stories in today’s LoHud. I have tickets for Friday and Sunday game in SF. Don’t get many chances to see Yankee games out here, so really looking forward to it.
Happy Father’s Day….Dads!
I dont think A-Rod will but if he does, it would not be cause for too much concern as he hits to center and to right often
Anyone else sick of Johnny Damon? If there is one player I cant stand, its Johnny Damon
Was that really a 5 pitch inning for Wang?
Yup, 2 to Reyes, 1 to Lo Duca, 2 to Beltran
A-BOMB
My friend is going out to San Fran, but las t i heard she doesn’t have tickets for the games yet. It only cost her $5 bucks for a ticket since she had miles.
WHOA was that a BOMB by arod.
a-rod is amazing, and sterling just said the most ridiculous thing ever, “how arodian”
I think he missed that one lol, WAOOOO
thanks. Just can’t trust those pitch counters on the web.
Alex just hits so many homeruns that Sterling is runnning out of original material
no prob EBE
an abomb from arod
The 2 run shot was caused by my computer. My sopcast froze at 3-2 Abreu, my IE shut itself down. By the time I get Gameday back up, Alex had hit the HR.
I’m not tired of Damon yet. Everyone was tired of Abreu but he’s heated up nicely lately. It’d have to be a year or of mediocre play before I was ready to throw in the towel on Damon.
And that was a huge hit by A-rod. Clearly a homer as soon as it left the bat.
The trade ARod and bash A Rod posse has suddenly gone very quiet since mid April.
You think they jumped on the bandwagon???
Wang!
I wonder if the guy who wanted Wang in the bullpen as the 7th inning guy still feels that way.
Does A Rod hit anything besides no doubters?
The guy does not hit cheap home runs.
Yep not a cheapy (is that a word?) LOL in the bunch.
He better not leave!!!
How many pitches has Wang thrown? Like 15? Jeezuz.
Tseng- He is not what we signed up for. He was a lead off hitter. He would foul balls off a ton, draw walks, get on and make things happen. He doe none of that. He even used to hit a few homers. Every 1st inning starts with one out. He has 3 this year and is hitting .250. Put that on top of not being able to play the outfield anymore and you have yourself a dud. Damon is pretty much useless.
Not bad for Wang. total 15 pitches for the first 2 innings.
He should have an option every single yr.
Cashman should work that in.
AROD is on fire with these homers this month. Barry Bonds who? No disrespect to Bonds but Arod just keeps giving it when it matters and giving lead scores. He has just been amazing and on fire this month.
Godzilla with another good hit
A-Rod is unbelievable. He has a HR and robs Delgado in the space of two innings. He’s 9 away from 500 HR’s BTW
I think if you are Arod you stay with the team where you have not only the best shot of being a great player but the team where you have the best shot of winning year after year thus the Yankees. If you are Boras you go for the team that offers you the most money no matter where it is. The question will be how much of a voice Arod will have or will he let Boras lead him the way he lead him to texas.
Re: Pete’s Question –
This might be naive, but doesn’t A-Rod have enough money? It isn’t like he is going to be taken advantage of by the Yanks if he (ahem) only makes $25M next year and then does an extension.
I know Boras figures in the equation somewhere but if A-Rod opts out he becomes a Sheffield-like mercenary rather than a 10 year Yankee. JMO
Go, Damon did well last year. Maybe with more time “off” at the DH position, he’ll pull himself together. Maybe not. I wouldn’t give up on him yet, though.
Cut Damon a break. Hes been really hurt the first 60 games here. The guy can barely play the field and hes gutting it out. No one should ever question his heart and toughness. Hes going to be a huge part of the rest of the season especially as he gets his legs healthy and starts raking.
Look at what this lineup is doing lately and thats without Damon playing a huge role. Once he does? Forget it. He’ll score everytime hes on.
At this point in his career A-Rod has to be concerned with legacy. Money? He’ll get the Yankees to kick in anything he wants for an extension.
But playing in NY is beyond special. In terms of history and marketing and endorsements. It adds millions to your value being a Yankee. You become an all timer. You dont get that in Anaheim. Or with the White Sox. Boras isnt dumb. Either is A Rod.
And either is George.
A ROD NEEDS TO STAY A YANKEE HE WILL END UP AS ONE OF THE GREATS IF HE STAYS HEATHLY
I think what arod has done already qualifies him as one of the greats. He’s going to be a hall of famer.
If I were gay I would love Miguel Cairo
Pete is Doug really out for the year? This is the first I’ve heard
It’s always nice when your 9 hitter can deliver a 2 out hit like that!
man, if Cairo had only hit that line on Friday nite instead of a deep fly ball. Gomez couldn’t get to the fence in time.
Wow the Mets are not playing well at the moment.
Well I love all of them right now.
No one questions that A ROd is a Hall of Famer if he retires today. But legacy is more than that. If Babe Ruth played for the Cardinals. He wouldnt be Babe Ruth. If Mantle played for the Royals. He wouldnt be Mickey. Its a different ballgame succeeding and thriving in NY.
Look at how much fun hes having this yr compared to last yr. When you do well and play hard in NY. Its gravy time. Its a tough town. Not many can do well here. It takes something special.
If Jorge plays 1st base in Denver, he’ll have ask Big Papi to break in a hat.
Jake,
You’re onto something. He has money, he just needs to define his legacy. If he can weather the storm and win the fans over that will be add to his “larger than life” persona. He can also shed the money hungry label that may have been unfairly thrust upon him by honoring his contract.
I think he’s doing so well this year because his confidence is sky high. Look at the distractions he has dealt with already. Something was going on with him last year, because this is not the same Alex.
Look at that clutch hitting from Cairo. He really does try to copy Jeter.
2-out ribbies are so great. I love El Duque but this is great stuff!!!
We could see what a 160 rbi season looks like.” Way back in 1999 Manny Ramirez had a 165 rbi season for Cleveland.
Rodriguez will go where the money and blondes are.
Did anyone else here ESPN broadcasters saying Mienkewicz is out for the season? Has this already been confirmed?
that should be “hear”
TJ I think they are just idiots. Doug had surgery to shave 4 weeks off of his recovery time. Either way he was going to be back this year.
My thinking they are looking for another first baseman cause they are not happy with Josh and they don’t feel Miggy can do it until Doug comes back. I’m sure they will persue a right handed first baseman. And he will split time with Doug when he is back. Also the Yankees must know something about Jason (not that he was playing first anyway.)
Peter Gammons should never, and I mean NEVER, be in the Yankee clubhouse for ANY reason.
TJ,
I heard them say that too but it’s the first I heard it anywhere.
a little tough love for Damon helps. keep it up. btw, Jeter is only batting 0.345. He better get it together if he wants to catch Ordonez.
Here comes Rajah!
I love that big, tough, momma’s boy.
I wish Jeter would have jumped on that very first pitch in his last AB. Man, that was a fat one, wasn’t it? Heck, all of Duque’s pitches (the ones over the plate, at least) look pretty hittable!
One would hope that national broadcasters would at least be knowledgable about what is happening on the team they cover for the national game. It is not too difficult to ask about injuries etc and for MIller to say he is out for the year is just plain lazy when that is certainly NOT the case
I wonder if we’ll be posting 2′s in every inning tonight also? Wouldn’t really bother me, but I hope the pitching is sharper than yesterday.
ESPN mentioned Wang has become “something” of a national hero. That’s a huge understatement. As a Taiwanese-American, let me assure everyone that Wang Chien-ming is HUGE in Taiwan.
Then again MIller is the regular Giants guy and being out until August for his team is the year lol
Can we write in Cairo for the All Star game?????
Ryan,
Did year about the Bill O’Reilly incident? Yankee security had to strong arm him out of the visitor’s clubhouse because he didn’t have proper credentials. I think it was quite a scene.
BTW – In the “old days” I think the starting pitcher would have been looking to hit a guy like Reyes in the legs (on purpose) to slow him down. I know it’s not the way things are done now, but Reyes is so damned annoying…I half-wish they would plunk him on the knee or something!!! Stay on first base and rub that bruise, you know?
Thanks Jennifer. I just thought it sounded odd since I would think the Yankees or Pete would have mentioned it.
Jon Miller calls every play like it’s the last out of the World Series :X
The last thing A Rod needs is another 250 mill deal to play in bumblefudge.
He has the big stage. NY. A team that does anything to win.
You cannot ask for more plus hes going to be paid market rate anyway.
I love Wang! He looks like a high school kid out there, but, man, he’s as cool as the other side of the pillow!!
I love Miguel Cairo.
I also love Chien Ming Wang.
Mel, I dont care if Gammons does have credentials. He might as well wear a Red Sox jersey anytime he’s on television.
Mel I think that is great. No celeb (if you can call him one) treatment. haha and he was ticked about it.
TJ no problem, when I heard it i was like what the heck. They always say incorrect things on the national broadcasts. Something like that is not that hard to check out.
Man I love when Wang’s on the mound. He makes it look too easy and his mentality of pitching has a certain calm he carries. I can’t describe it but he’s just so focused amazing and yet still keeps the same expression. I admire this dude so much. I’m sure Jorge is happy when he’s out there.
Oh geez.
Miller is a jerk.
Its only the 3rd and he starts with the No-No talk.
He wouldn’t do that to his home team (SF).
Cairo is great.
Abreu is great.
Someone get Bobby some oxygen! He’s in pain!!
Oh Abreu ^___^ *swooooooooon*
I call a single by a-rod here.
OK now Posada hit a HR cuz I like this whole deuces thing.
Whoa!!!
A…Rod
A…Rod
A…Rod
I know it’s Father’s day, but stop this love fest, men.
Hm, maybe not, but still got a run in.
EBE – does this mean you don’t love Wang like TJ and Chicago Dave? They love Wang
E.B.E.
It’s the heat :}
Digya see roger was wearing six baby blue “Dad” arm bands
HAHA, Pete hates Phelps like I hate Great Britton.
Wang seems to be throwing his other pitches well. When he first came up he had that great sinker/splitter and a pretty good fastball. His change and slider look really good as well these last 3-4 starts. He had those 15 days off and just had to get back in the flow. Looks great.
If lovin’ Chien-Ming is Wang, then I don’t wanna be wright (jared).
I live 3000 miles from San Francisco, yet I’m in their “market”. So our espn radio station carries the Giants game. For once it was nice to listen to Johnny Miller call a game during their series with the Sox.
Did they just catch Reyes stealing? NEVER THOUGHT I’D SEE THE DAY.
Nice Dr. Acula
Acula- Could those bands be one for each of his kids?
Nice hustle there, LoDuca.
Even if you do think Wang isn’t an ace or Phelps should be at first, why would it be a bad night for you if you’re a Yankee fan? Success of team > personal opinions about players
So what’s the story on Gammons in the clubhouse? Does that mean he missed Bonds hit his first HR at Fenway?
Wang has a great demeanor. He has that attitude like everything he does is expected and never really gets excited. I like that out of a pitcher
12 up = 12 down
Woo hoo!
I think one of the signs of an “ace” is that you enjoy your team’s defensive half of the inning almost as much as its offensive half.
LOL “John” Miller, at least spell your own name right.
I guess that means Wang is our ace?
Will whoever has Joe Morgan’s cell please call him and tell him to STFU? He just rehashed a play a zillion times; reiterated what was right, wrong, his opinion, what other’s might think. Then he went back into it again. I’d rather listen to Tom Arnold or even Roseanne!
The only time being a #1 pitcher matters is Opening Day and the playoffs and by then it is pretty well defined. The pitcher has to go out every 5 days, I could care less what number they think they are. It’s more for fans to talk about things. Does it really matter if Wang or Pettitte is our best pitcher. I would hope it isn’t well defined who is b/c then they are all pitching well.
Chien Ming Wang = Ace of the Yankees. The guy has been as good as advertised.
I love Melky but he’s gotta start seeing more pitches
Wow!!! Wang looks great tonight. 12 up and 12 down. Total 46 pitches for the first 4 innings.
Lordy these broadcasters are terrible tonight. Miller is asking about Melky and Gammons is giving him an answer talking about Cairo
Did Morgan just call Oliver “Odalis”?
Go NYR-
yeah, everyone says Roger is good family *man*:http://tinyurl.com/yph65s
I have an idea… FOX or ESPN should have 1 regular announcer from each team doing the game. Like Kay or Leiter and one of the Mets announcers… It would make things interesting and we wouldn’t have to listen to Buck, McCarver, Miller, or Morgan.
I though it would be hilarious to listen to Remy and Kay go at it for 9 innings.
12 up 12 down….you guys just jinxed the pseudo-perfect game.
I would never have imagined a sinkerball pitcher could throw so hard.
They say the wrong thing, and then never correct themselves, it’s like it was never said.
And why do the updates have to have a larger screen than the actual game we are watching? How many times do we have to be told who the winner of the US open was.
its ok Jennifer
Jorge really has Beltran’s number. Remember when Beltran was as hot as A-rod?
The stat geeks are eating crow with Wang. But the players never doubted his stuff. Ask any player and they say hes unhittable and filthy.
LOL I swtiched the channel and when I went back the first thing I hear is “GOODBYE!”
Let’s hope Johnny gets hot.
Damon isn’t playing too shabby today!
The stat geeks are eating crow with Wang. But the players never doubted his stuff. Ask any player and they say hes unhittable and filthy.
If you look at the stats closely (like I did) they show that Wang actually had enough GB’s and lack of BB’s to offset his lack of K’s
I can’t believe Miller is carping about the 314′ right field wall. The right field wall for his home team (SF) is 309′
Cmon Arod time for number 28.
Morgan really is an idiot. Abreu made more of an effort than Lo Duca.
HAHA Duque wants NOOOO part of Alex.
Nice homer by Damon. He was due
mel-
Beltran screwed up his knee two weeks ago against SF. He ran into the 1st baseman beating out a grounder.
Met’s bullpen must suck. I’m surprised they haven’t pulled Hernandez yet
Dr. Acula,
Thanks for the fyi. Too bad for the Mets, he’s really the cog that makes that machine go.
I know like Bobby wanted to get hit in the elbow/arm.
6 runs and he hasnt made that many mistakes, Morgan? OK.
Miller and morgan are awful. Johnny D will pick it up soon.like to see Matsui pick up some hr’s.
Interesting. Morgan says Roger out pitched Perez, Friday nite. I thought so too. In fact on Saturday, Torre said we lost cuz we weren’t being patient at the plate. Which begs the question, digya say something at the time Joe? Could you have told them to take more pitches and to focus, while the game was goin on?
Cairo for MVP
CAIRO!
Wow that was a great play by Miggy and Jeter!! Two speedy runners, and Jeter had Gotay (sp) right on him.
Another great play by Marvelous Miguel Cairo. Looks like all the Cairo haters have gone running.
At least Morgan is showing he actually watched the game to know that Clemens was better than Oliver.
Who knew Cairo had a better glove than Eyechart ?
cairo looks awesome at first hes making a run to take phelps out of the equation when miencavitz i can spell it oh well
That is what Cairo gives you…
When the Yanks re-signed Miggy, I remember a lot of fans attacking the signing.
The Yanks were something like 29-7 when Miggy filled in for Cano last year when Cano was out.
Since taking over at first, the Yanks have been on fire.
All the stuff you don’t see in boxscores, but that help the team win. That’s Miggy.
If that had been phelps in the field, Matsui would still be running into the deep corner after that ball.
Great job Cairo!
Anyone know how many pitches Wang has thrown?
Can someone please start a Miguel Cairo fan club? He is da man.
65 pitches through 6 for CMW. Wow!
The argument is whether Cairo CAN play it’s if he plays first every day then every infielder has to play every game for the rest of the season b/c Torre isn’t going to be putting in Basak. Cairo is supposed to be the backup infielder so if he is going to be the 1st baseman you have to get another utility infielder. He shouldn’t have to fill both roles.
65 for wang
Amazingly Wang is at 65 pitches through 6.
Another mediocre pitcher…..
mets679958
http://boards.espn.go.com/boar.....#038;lid=1
shutting the mets down. This is one of the most overrated pitchers in baseball. 76 SO in 218 IP last season and 233 H given up. I was never impressed with this guy, I guarantee you he’ll be in the minors in a few years
IP:6
Pitches-strikes:
Wang 65-41.
Amazing
Guys:
I’ll say this on here because I don’t want to make a big deal out of it on the main page. But please do not post as “Jon Miller” or “Roger Clemens” or whatever.
This is a blog for (hopefully) intelligent fans and I’m not going to allow it to become silly. If you have an sensible comment to make, please make it. But take the rest of the crap someplace else.
Thanks
Ws why don’t you post your nonsense on the mets blog.
Jennifer,
I think he posted a Mets fans’ comment from the espn board LOL
Miller is retarded.
Pete,
I got curious and surfed over to the mets blog. NO comments whatsoever for any of the updates. Do yankee fans really outnumber mets fans by that much? or are their fans just computer illiterates? I just feel sorry for John Delcos.
Oh nothing showed up when i clicked the link. LOL i have my fire wall set high, so it just showed (AD)
Sorry WS my bad.
Pete. There is NO WAY a pretty DP can make up for a sub 600 OPS at first base. None.
Maybe no one knows about that blog?? I bet there are some Yankee blogs that none of us know about. I used to go to a few but usually just go to this one now. Probably the best discussion and updates. Maybe their is a better Mets one out there and no one goes to the LoHud one? Who knows.
No problem, Jennifer. Mets Fans are clueless….
Delgado+Beltran+Wright=31 homers
ARod=27 homers
Found that interesting. Last year every Mets fan said they would rather have Wright. I bet they aren’t saying that much anymore
They stole a run there
Wanger should have been out of the inning, David swung at a horrible pitch.
I’ve always wondered why Wang didn’t use that 95mph heater to get some K’s by throwing it up in the zone with two strikes. Nice to see him finally taking that approach.
With all of the low pitches he throws, I think changing the eye level of hitters like that makes a 95 mph heater at the letter almost unhittable.
Okay only one run! Now we get it back.
Thinking a few tack on runs here would be nice.
I can’t believe there are so many Mets fans in Yankee Stadium.
It’s really, really hard to snag a ticket for this series. I mean, itt’s not like we’re playing Tampa Bay.
I know!! I don’t know how they get the tickets, plus that stupid air horn that someone brought in!! Hopefully ys security got to him, cause it stopped shortly after it started.
Dr being a season ticket holder (Saturday games) in series like these more and more I see the competitors fans in the stadium. With things like Stubhub it is easier and easier to get tickets if you are willing to pay the ridiculous price,. The seats next to mine the guy sells them for almost every game yesterday the guys he sold them to told me they paid $320 a ticket for seats that are $68
Mike: For the occasional HR you’ll get from Phelps, I’ll take the nine innings of good defense from Cairo. Beyond that, if they need offense from their 9 hitter to win, they have big trouble.
Plus Cairo can run a little, move a runner over, get down a bunt, all things Phelps cannot do.
Forget Phelps, he is not long for this roster.
Is that an unearned run?
I love watching Wang evolve as a pitcher and not just relying on his sinker the majority of the time. He has been getting a ton of non-swinging strikes on his change and slider tonight (and has increasingly been all year) b/c everyone is looking sinker all the time. Nice work.
moreover, cairo hit that double in the corner, early in the game.
and he was an inch from a go ahead 3-run dinger, Friday nite.
I gotta say, I get a chuckle from those “silly” comments during a nice, relaxing game. I guess there’s no joking in baseball.
It is in the box score as an earned run. I don’t understand that. It was a strike out! How can it be earned.
And why is Andy in the pen. He better not be coming in.
Im thinking Andy is comin in
Anyone think A-Rod can go 60HR and 175 RBI this year?
Also, if he hits 62+ HR’s this year I wonder if some people will consider it the unofficial HR record since the other 62+ HR season are tainted by steroid accusations???
Gayle-
wow!
I didn’t know that. Sounds like a good investment/arbitrage opportunity to me.
where are your seats located (ie home plate reserved, etc.)??
thanks for the input, G.
p.s. digya go to yesterday’s game ??
Well maybe he was just having his bullpen. Wanger still in.
I read the Yankees are cracking down on people who sell their season tickets to stub hub. The Yankees are supposed to be setting up something where you can sell your tickets thru them, and they take a cut.
Pete is a tyrant.
They did that with the postseason ticketholders. They got banned?
Anyone know Wang’s career high for strikeouts in a game?
Wow Wanger is making them look like fools!!
To mel,
8K as far as I could remember.
I’m thinking it’s 8.
Pete is the law
When showing highlights of Guidry’s 18 K game on 6/17/78, did Jon Miller really say that it was Tommy John coming in to congratulate his teammate Guidry???
WRONG, JON!
Tommy John was on the Dodgers in 1978. # 25 coming in to congratulate the Gator was Brian Doyle.
Jen-
I’ve never even heard of stub hub. Do they do a lot of local advertising?
boy that’s something, huh? The yanks want a piece of both the primary and secondary markets. after all, the secondary speculators are assuming all the risk. if they don’t sell, is cashman gonna give them some trading stamps.
I believe they had their season tickets taken away from them.
theres number 9
Yes went to yesterdays game it was great my seats are field level left field – sec 24 box 100 2nd row about 3 rows towards 3rd base from the foul poll. I call it Matsui Central as we get a lot of Japanese visitors as you are pretty much level with Hideki. I have to give myself a little credit as I am 6-0 this season ( i missed the Saturday Red Sox game) but went to wednesdays Dbacks game lol.
Jennifer the system they are supposed to set up is called Ticket Exchange and is via Ticketmaster. I was told by a person who works for Ticketmaster the other day that it had already been setup but I do not think that is the case. It basically is an auction sustem that they use a lot right nwo for concerts where the person sets the starting price and then there are incremental bids for the ticket. It works pretty easily for the concert industry as the money fromt he auction (afetr a percentage) actually goes to the artist. IN this case that extra money would go the Yankees which is why I am sure they prefer this system.
Also New York just changed their law for what scalpers can sell their tickets for. there used to be a law that you could only sell for a certain percentagee higher (legally that is)that law has now changed and there is no limit.
thx. new record. good for wang. bad for the syber-heads.
Dr. most teams do it, in baseball and football. I don’t really see anything wrong with them wanting to get a cut. Why should a 3rd party make money on their product.
NASTY pitch!
Nice to see Wang’s still throwin 94 mph smoke after 100 pitches.
wow reyes looked like a fool on that one
They have to get Wang out of there. He has lost the plate…
Actually re ticket scalping, in NY it is now legal to sell tickets you own at any price. The Yankees or anyone else have no right to say anything or take away your seats anymore.
The rational was that the laws were not being enforced and many people were taking a chance and selling their tickets, however many many more were not selling tickets they would have therefore supply was being kept artificially low driving up prices for people willing to buy tickets illegally. So now prices should stabilize at lower levels now. Read this on a Neil Best column on Newsday.Com
I have no doubt in my mind Jon Miller was the kid who got beat up everyday at school
10!!!!
WOW Reyes looked like a fool. He screwed himself into the ground! LOL
Can wang pitch against the mets everyday? lol
That changeup to Reyes was NASTY!!!
Who pitches the 9th? They should get Rivera right back out there instead of messing around with someone else starting the inning and then having to bring him in.
11 groundouts. 10 K’s. WoW. Indeed. The new Halliday?
Looked like Reyes was going to break dance to cover that swing and miss.
CMW had shown flashes of this, as he had a few games with 5 and 6 strikeouts. But I didn’t know he was capable of this! His slider is already a pretty good pitch, but if he can thrown more of those “screwball” changeups (kinda like Dice-K) that he threw a minute ago to Reyes, he’ll be consistently a low 3 ERA pitcher. There’s just no way to handle a good a change with a 92-93 mph “power” sinker.
Yeah I say Mo in the ninth, he’s getting tomorrow off anyway. Although, Proctor hasn’t pitched in awhile. Truth is it doesn’t matter, all that matters is locking down this win.
Wangs going the distance.
Like Ray Kinsella.
Yeah who pitches the 9th. Wang at the magic number.
Let Wang finish this game….let’s see how he responds pitching up to around 120 pitches.
Captain, was that sarcasm? I think Wang did kinda sorta well that inning.
Our pen isn’t getting enough work. This is bad managing..
And they say he isn’t a strike out pitcher. I think he is as evidence by his few games, he can strike out hitters. Its just maybe he choose not to. He just relies on his sinker. Not that is a trait of a good pitcher to be able to adjust to the hitters. Some of the hitters are zoning in on his sinkers so he adjust and mixes in sliders and changeups more then uses his fastfall more. He is an ace. No doubt about it.
A-rod is so going to opt out next year..and whatever the Yankees sign him to will be worth it.
96 MPH sinker for his 104th pitch.
Just ridiculous.
POSADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jorge!!!
If the yankees let him opt out and resign him, than they won’t get any money from the rangers. If anyting they will extend him.
Hip hip Jorge!
If arod opts out he won’t come back. Seriously if they yankees gave him an extention for $35 mil per year, they would still only be paying 21mil for the next 3 years.
JORGIE JUICED ONE!
Jorgie juiced one…I can’t wait to hear the calls on WFAN…ha ha ha
Hip, Hip, Jorge!
Jen-
thats a good point.
I was reflexively thinking about the yanks shutting down all 3rd party competition. that is, if I was selling tickets, I would want as many distributors competing for my ticket, the same way stock brokers compete to be an investor’s agent.
Posada with the tack on HR, how unprofessional.
I’ll be placing a call to my Uncle tomorrow. (he is a huge met fan) He has been ragging on me about the yankees. Now the tides have turned.
My first words to him will be, I’m a Met fan, well for the next 6 games anyway. LOL
Why not get KT an at bat here?
I’m pretty sure that Joe can trust Farnsworth(less) to pitch the 9th…
If he can’t use him in a 7+ run game to close it out, then put him on the DL or trade him.
Can Gammons shut up. Clearly he’ll opt out. BS!! I think Alex learned after his first huge contract that you don’t necessary go for the biggest contract. He will look for an extention.
Boy the mets can’t wait to get off the field and go home.
HAHA mets are a mess.
If Gammons is gonna talk at least he should get his facts straight and mention that the Yanks would rather extend A-Rod so they can keep the Texas money as opposed to competing for him after he opts out.
would someone please inform the mets that the game is still being played??? Talk about a bunch of knuckleheads!
I just thought of a good example. Craig’list. they don’t charge a commission on ticket sales. like a dutch auction, their ticket prices are usually lower than the ones listed on ebay. so both parties benefit from the distribution channel
Nice homers by the Yankee dads. What a great Father’s Day present for Rodriguez, Damon, & Posada.
Thefan will be alot of fun to listen to tonight.
“Beyond that, if they need offense from their 9 hitter to win, they have big trouble.”
But they don’t get offense from the 7,8 or 9 spots in the order. And I’ve never understood why a team wouldn’t want to maximize production out of every position, if possible.
THANKS, Gayle!!
I tried to sell tickets on craigslist, i was only looking for face and got no responces. Now i’m on ebay, hopefully they will sell.
and this is with the team doing well. (i’m not looking to make money on them, I just don’t want to be out what i paid.
How embarrasing. Melky chugs down to 1st for an infield single. Was that slow motion?
a few more starts like this and well stop calling him Chien Ming Wang an star calling him Cy Wang
O/T
Anyone think the Cubs will trade Zambrano ?
As a latino, he’s love it in NYC.
Wanger going back out for the 9th.
I hope ESPN’s new ombudsman is paying attention to tonight’s mistakes. It’s been an awful broadcast. Some of the errors were pointed out earlier tonight, but I’ll add a few more.
First, Joe Morgan tried to identify Gotay, but called him Valentin and then Gomes. Later, he spoke to Randolph about Odaliz Perez before correcting that to Oliver Perez. He also said Jeter had trouble at some point this season, but now is playing better. Was he thinking of Alex Rodriguez?
Jon Miller was any better. He said Minky is out for the year. And, over a picture of Ron Guidry’s 18-strikeout game, he misidentified Brian Doyle, calling him Tommy John.
Broadcasting is difficult; I expect to hear occasional error. But a glut of mistakes on the national game of the week shouldn’t be tolerated.
I believe he’s said he won’t come to the Yankees. Which I am happy about. I don’t want him on the team, I think he has a bad attitude.
Great job by Wang tonight. I can’t kill Joe for letting him finish it off but why push him when you don’t have to. This is the time to get Villone or Henn some work. Mo is available if things start getting sticky.
Wang should get a standing ovation tonight. He was on fire
Jen-
you have a season ticket, too?
where at?
thanks for all your input on this board, btw.
Your heart stands out.
Why is Wang still pitching?! Save him for later in the season. Or later in a close game…not in a 8-1 game…stupid..
No reason for Wang to come back out for the ninth. Let him finish on a high note (the 8th) and keep him healthy.
Dr. Acula,
There was static about Zambrano wanting out. Dissed Yankees, saying too many rules, but he laughed when he said it. Hot head, but maybe Jorge could calm him down. Felt bad for him, taking a no-hitter into the 7th and losing the game 1-0.
No i’m not a season ticket holder. These tickets are for when we play the o’s. I bought them before I found out about a meet and greet, so now i’m stuck with another set of tickets.
When I do go to the stadium I usually sit in the upper deck. You get a great view for a great price.
PETE,
Any thought to A-Rod leaving not for the money but to play SS for another team? He will not play SS for the Yankees any time soon. Thoughts?
Jennifer I agree although everyone always says they dont want to come to New York when the money comes knocking they always end up here BUT his temprament is a bit worrisome.
Is it NOT neccessary for him to throw 120 pitches..Lets remember he has had arm injuries. Torre is lost, it is June not Sept.
Pitch count getting really high. and no outs. How much further do we let him go?
Okay one more out! Let him get it.
Cash said they aren’t talking extension earlier in the season. I’m prety sure Pete wrote on it and I know other writers did. He said that ARod either accepts the contract he has or opts out. In that case ARod opts out. No way does an extension get done. It would have had to get done in ST
WHY JOE????? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY???
Relax guys, the Wanger doesn’t like to get yanked.
Whoever says Wangs not an ace shouldnt ever comment on baseball.
Here comes the mop up man.
PETE,
Nice comments on Cairo…. Phelps definately makes that 3-6-3 DP. You need to refer back to the stats you are getting in email from Phelps fans….HA
Also Zambrano sucks and would never handle NY. If you think Randy Johnson sucked here and couldn’t handle the pressure/media than Zambrano is clearly not the guy you want on this team.
Joe, what are you doing. You leave an obviously tired Wang in there to pitch the ninth, supposedly so he can finish up and get a CG, but then you yank him with one batter to go and the bases empty. Wtf?
I like Moose and Clemens laughin it up with Wang.
Gotta love Arod mouthing no no no when he saw Joe coming to take him out. Only thing I have liked from Miller tonight is calling Wang the Toast of Taiwan as he was leaving the mound (although Pete’s moniker Taiwanese terror is better)
I dont put much stock into listening to GM’s comment about free agents, trades, and potential deals.
Its called negotations. Things change. Circumstances change. You adapt.
Mel, Jen, Gayle-
The hothead thing is a problems. we don’t want another Sheffield. But if he’s only a Reggie or Wells like hothead that would be cool. And after all, sometimes I cringe at Moose’s quotes.
That was nice to see Clemens talking to Wang.
Wang says Roger is his idol.
Ahhh Sweet Victory!!!
Just because Cash said that before the season, doesn’t mean he won’t do everything in his power to keep A Rod a Yankee after this potential monster season. He will extend him, he does not want to be the GM that let A Rod get away.
It is so much fun to watch this team play right now. They are laughing and having fun! This is the Yankees that we all know and love.
Funny how the Yankes record is
35-32
mets
37-30
Jake,
Well Boras isn’t going to pass up the opportunity to once again set the market. He talked on Jim Rome the other day how the money in baseball has risen significantly since ARod signed and how the players should be getting more of that pie. He also talked about how he was great for the game of baseball and an ambassador of the game
Don’t be so hesitant to say a 25 yr old stud pitcher like Zambrano couldnt handle NY.
They said the same things about Reggie Jackson, Paul O’Neill, Dave Winfield, and countless others.
And it aint exactly like Chicago is “easy” to deal with.
A 26yr old with his stuff and track record on the open market? 7 yrs 150 mill
Well, a dumb move from Joe Torre puts an unnecessarily crooked number under Wang’s ER column in the box score, but whatever. Another blowout victory for the Yanks.
Does a CG stat even matter in this day?
I GUARANTEE HE OPTS OUT
Shouldnt say hesitant. Should say rash.
Well it was nice chatting with everyone tonight. Time to listen to Yankees post game and hit the hay. Good night!
OK talk about Must See TV this is Bronx is Burning is looking good
Obviously A Rod will opt out. But its not obvious what Cashman will do.
Saying things in January is much different than doing things in December. Its called negotations.
I think Cash will get it done and A Rod will be in pinstripes for life.
11 of 12. 14 of 17. Nice job Yankees, enjoy the off day.
I don’t think the Cubs let Zambrano go. They just spent 300M this offseason. I dont think they are going to pinch pennies when it comes to their ace. They had an extension all but done before he started to struggle, I’m sure they get it done sometime
Man, can you guys believe that Wang entered the game with something like a 3.5 ERA and Hernandez came in with around a 2.3? No offense to El Duque, because I’m still a big fan of his, but Wang is obviously the far superior pitcher at this point. The hitting in the NL is a joke, and not just because the pitcher hits.
Goodnight Jennifer. A pleasure reading your comments once again.
Great win to go 3 games over .500 for the first time this season. Took the last 5 series. Only 1 out of Wang’s 31 batters was walked. The Yankees are looking good again.
Did anyone just see that preview for “The Bronx is Burning” ?
It looks awesome!! I can’t wait.
Giambino plays a taxi driver —->> “here”:http://tinyurl.com/2hfdob
Cairo may have had a good game tonight, but this team needs to add a real first baseman. It will haunt them if they don’t. And it isn’t about Josh Phelps. A trade needs to be made at some point.
Pete -
I was a little surprised that Henn or Villone didn’t get a shot – just as you were.
I thought Joe was giving Wang a shot at the CG… All I can guess – Joe got Wang at a certain pitch count (115?)
Looks like Henn goes back to Scranton for Igawa. Villone is in a purely mop up role – seems like he’s set up for failure.
Gammons said during the 9th inning that he thinks ARod opts out for sure.
Frankly I’m not that sure. He seems to be feeling a real comfort level – at the plate, and in the field. He’s going to throw that away? I really wouldn’t understand it…
OK, I have to know why Torre sent Wang out there for the ninth, and I’m sure some reporter is going to post that question to Torre during the postgame. However, being in Chicago I don’t get the local coverage…Can someone please post what Torre says? I’d appreciate it…
P.S. – Someone is also sure to ask Joe why he pulled Wang one out away from a CG…Please post his response to that question as well! THANKS!!!
People please stop crying about Torre.
113 Pitches, a long AB pushes him into the 120′s. No need to push it.
He started the 9th because he was a tad over 100 and Joe gave him a shot for a short 9th.
Doesn’t matter anway…CG is a useless stat. Sad that people need to cry about Torre when this team has won what? 12 of 14. Unreal.
Also think of this way, Wang got the standing O from the fans.
Personally, I wasn’t being critical of Joe at all. I’m honestly curious as to why that whole ninth inning played out as it did…that’s all. One thing Joe has not been is someone who leaves guys in once they get close to the century mark (pitch-wise), so, I think it’s a reasonable question, don’t you?
For all of you looking forward to The Bronx is Burning I highly recommend that you read Jonathan Mahler’s book before the ESPN production comes out. I read it last summer and thought that it was excellent. I am anxious to see if ESPN can capture the spirit of a monumentally crazy summer in NYC (Reggie/Munson feuding, major power blackouts in the city and the Son of Sam killer all rolled into one) as well as Mahler did. If they can come close then I will consider it a success. Good night folks.
lets stop bitching
we won the game.
everyone’s fine.
lets move on
Loved the book,and I’m looking forward to the mini-series. Can’t wait.
rbizzler-
thanks for the recommend!
What a year: ’77. The strikes, the heat, Howard Cosell
O.K. the Yanks buy out A-Rod’s OPT OUT clause for 40-50 mill or so, he keeps his current contract for 3 more years (Texas will still have to pay) and in 3 years we offer him a new contract!!!!! That’ll do it! And we don’t have to totally pee off Rivera, Posada, and DJ- JETER by not extended their contracts like we would have to do with A-Rod!!! A solution, or what???? Let’s hope this gets it done by boras!
Sorry, but I don’t think “The Bronx is Burning” is going to be winning any awards…Has anyone (honestly) ever seen a reality-based TV series about sports that was any good? To me, I chuckled watching that ad…The acting looks pretty bad…
Again with the bizare fixation Peter has with Phelps bashing. What is the blasted point? At what point does it become unprofessional Peter? Really, I am curious.
Chicago Dave,
You’re raining on my parade. I know that ESPN is total cheese, but I’m hoping for a little better this time. Probably wishful thinking.
I grew up in the Bronx during that time. I was young, but I still remember an awful lot. I’d just love to see if they can recapture that vibe.
Yeah, I don’t get why it’s necessary to pick on Phelps constantly, either. After all, it’s not like the guy is starting every day and costing us games. He rarely plays! What is the point in hammering him every day? Perhaps he was rude to Peter at some point…
Cairo is a good 1st baseman. He plays good defense and his offense isn’t anything to complain about. He is a small ball player and it works well. Don’t forget this winning streak all started with Cairo started playing 1st regularly. Not that he is the cause of it, but it certainly clicked.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
There is no real need to replace Cairo at 1st. He actually is a upgrade from Minky. When Minky was still together, Cashman wasn’t looking to replace him, so why would he replace Cairo.
The only way Cashman would replace Cairo is if the Texiera trade happened. But that won’t happen as Tex is on the DL and you can’t trade a player on the DL.
We would have to give up some pretty good pitching prospect for Tex, so who knows if it is worth it.
What the Yankees really need are relievers. Expect to see that not a new 1st baseman.
As for A-Rod, assume nothing till the end of the season and what happens if the Yankees make the playoffs. If they do and A-Rod tanks like usual, then he will most likely opt out. But expect Boras to talk to GM’s of certain teams before he opts out. A-Rod would need to know that a contending team would pick him up. If the Angels don’t bite, then don’t expect A-Rod to go anywhere.
How much more could A-Rod get paid? He makes 26 million a year already. He is going to leave the Yankees for 2 or 3 million more? Means little for A-Rod and his legacy is worth more if he finishes with the Yankees and he knows this.
Also Cashman isn’t an idiot. A-Rod makes a lot of money for the Yankees. Letting him go would hit their bottom line hard. Yanks can afford to pay A-Rod and give him an extension. Remember, A-Rod has been a bargain so far to the Yanks with the Rangers paying $10 million of his salary every year. Things would have to go horrible wrong in the playoffs (if they make it) for A-Rod to opt out and Cashman not getting an extension done to keep A-Rod till he retires. It’s what Boras wants. It’s what A-Rod wants. Boras talks a lot of hype around players in a contract year to artificially raise their value. Don’t believe anything Boras says right now about A-Rod.
I’d love to see Wang get the CG. Both in Taiwan and Japan, CG is just like a medal of honor to a pitcher. Plus there was only one batter to go! (WHY~~~T_T)
But a win is a win, and I think that’s the most important thing Wang care about.
tonyb – Spike Lee already tried to capture “that vibe” in “Summer of Sam.” If he couldn’t do it (and I don’t think he did), then what hope can you hold out for an ESPN mini-series made with C-list acting talent?
Yes, I’ll probably watch the first episode to check it out, but I don’t think it will be any good…
tonyb-
_I’d just love to see if they can recapture that vibe._
I agree. But hopefully, they’re not spot-on when it comes to disco.
Wang was #57 this year in Time Mag’s 100 most important people. At this point, he may move up to 30 or 35. If someone thinks we should trade for a better position player, etc., I’m more interested in whom the team will be shipping out in return. Most of the time, other teams think they should be getting say Wang, Pettitte, Posada and Jeter for a good looking often injured AA player.
They should have let Yogi play himself in the mini-series…
“Most of the time, other teams think they should be getting say Wang, Pettitte, Posada and Jeter for a good looking often injured AA player.”
AMEN! That is so true!!! The only time the Yanks’ get a reasonable trade is when they agree to take on salary in the deal (i.e. when it’s a straight salary dump by the other team…like the Abreu deal last year).
“Most of the time, other teams think they should be getting say Wang, Pettitte, Posada and Jeter for a good looking often injured AA player.�
I remember last year the Royals wanted Phil Hughes for Reggie Sanders.
The Cairo love is, well, heartwarming, but it has nothing to do with building a successful baseball team. It’s really this simple. Over time, his lack of offense will hurt the Yankees (believe it or not, A-Rod will not carry the team every game). There’s a reason major league baseball teams to not favor plucky good field/no hit players at the corners. It’s arrogant and shortsighted to think that this does not apply to the Yankees.
As for the Bronx is Burning, I wrote the original pilot, then quit over ‘creative differences.’ But I’ve seen enuf footage to have hopes for the mini. It’s very hard, particularly for a fan, to let go of all the images that have been indelibly burned into our brains. But if you can? Turturro and Platt are very very good, and a lotta fun to watch.
I remember the day when disco was declared “out” in my neighborhood. It was the official unofficial word on the street. Disco was here one day and gone the next.
You wouldn’t be caught dead cranking disco on your boombox after that. You’d have been thought of as a complete idiot.
tonyb – So what was “cool” to play the day after disco became “uncool” in your neighborhood?
Thanks, Harley!
was else have you done, if you can say. you’re tonite’s brush with fame.
Peter met Henry Kissinger Friday nite. No, not at TheHague, but at the stadium.
I’m guessing punk (the clash)
Cairo has no lack of offense. He can hit the ball and will. Je is not a slugger but sluggers don’t get you into the playoffs.
Yankee fans need to get off this trip of HR hitters only. It doesn’t work. Cairo is just what they need at the back of the lineup, especially with Melky and Cano ahead of him.
ALSO, you can’t only look at how many runs a player gives the team. You also have to look at how mnay runs a players stops the other teams from getting against you.
Cairo plays defense and pops out nice hits and steals. He can bunt and he can sacrifice.
I was only able to catch the final two innings tonight, but between Gammons stating the obvious and Morgan’s typical nonsensical babble I just hit the “mute” button on my remote and enjoyed the game.
Fantastic showing by Wang, great to see him get the standing ovation. Alex has simply amazed me all year, what a shot that was.
“The Bronx Is Burning”… I’ll give it a look. A previous poster mentioned Spike Lee’s “Summer of Sam”, not one of his finer efforts, but it should be a bit more entertaining then the usual mindless drivel the networks churn out.
Dr. Acula, been at it for a while. Less Than Zero, Twin Peaks, Bandits. Had high hopes for The Bronx is Burning — I’m a big fan of the book — and was sorry to leave.
Recently met with the producers who are planning a movie about the Fritz Peterson/Mike Kekich wife swap. Now THAT would be hella fun.
Punk and Rock were acceptable. Mostly Rock for me since I was raised on it. It’s a strange memory from a strange time I guess.
Cool, Harley!
I just IMDBed ya! Nice work!
Kekich-Peterson involves one of my favorite stories –>> “here”:http://tinyurl.com/22lb77
didnt watch the game today, but caught the highlights. CMW is flat out a beast. He is the epitome of an ace, every guy on that has to think when he goes to the mound they are going to win.
this debate about cairo is just pure nonsense, it doesnt even deserve to be discussed… He has been playing a great (not just above avg.) defense and does all the little things at the plate you need…. If our offense is at a point where it needs to consistently rely on his hitting, we have bigger problems.
Pete should be Wangs biggest fan and deservedly so with the book (by the way whens it come out here?). Hes a great pitcher and from what I hear an even better person.
Let’s be real honest here.
The reason we’re playing much better play is the great starting pitching we’ve been getting.
Its a real simple formula.
I was at the game today.
Wang was great. Good to see he is striking out people.
A-Rod is just awesome. The rate at which he is going, he should break the real HR record of 61!
notice the boston trolls have greatly reduced there posts.
I agree Cairo has played well but as a long term(rest of the yr.) option his significant lack of any pop would really hurt. If he had 15 HR power that is acceptable but basically he has 0 power and even though he is a very good fielder and has speed they need a offensive upgrade there or else need Melky or Damon to pick up the power a bunch..
yeah with good starting pitching all managers are real smart…
Great game by Wang! Arod is just amazing, said it before but this is the best I’ve ever seen him as a Yankee. About Arod leaving, he owes ny fans nothing. He’s been treated like garbage for most of his time here so if he decides to leave Yankee fans have no one to blame but themselves. Hope to goodness he stays, wanna see Arod in the new Yankee Stadium breaking the HR record one day.