Game 68: Yankees at Rockies
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 19, 2007 
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Here are the lineups:
YANKEES
Cabrera CF
Jeter SS
Abeu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Posada 1B
Matsui LF
Cano 2B
Nieves C
Mussina RHP (3-3, 5.17)
ROCKIES
Tavarez CF
Matsui 2B
Holliday LF
Helton 1B
Atkins 3B
Hawpe RF
Tulowitski SS
Torrealba C
Foff RHP (2-5, 4.95)
Pregame chatter: Andy Phillips has been called up and Josh Phelps designated for assignment. As a Rule 5 pick, Phelps has to clear waivers then be offered back to Baltimore. Only then could the Yankees outright him if they wanted to. Joe Torre said the Yankees wanted Phillips because he was a better glove and can do more things offensively. Phillips will be in the lineup tomorrow. The Yankees want Miguel Cairo to come off the bench. … Johnny Damon was OK with sitting, saying the time off should help his abdominal strain. Torre hopes he will be ready for Thursday’s game because he has hit Colorado starter Rodrigo Lopez well in the past. … Chien-Ming Wang said his stiff neck was getting better and he will be fine for his start on Saturday. He is looking forward to pitching in San Francisco because of the large Taiwanese community there.
UPDATE, 9:12 p.m.: Andy Phillips told us his mother Linda is back walking after the terrible car accident she was in during spring training. It’s certainly good to hear that and for Phillips to have made his way back to the majors. After all he has been through in the last two years, it’s nice to see him get a shot.
UPDATE, 10:16 p.m.: It’s funny how it works. We all wrote these stories on Coors Field, a zillion runs, blah, blah, blah and it’s 1-1 after four innings.
UPDATE, 11:16 p.m.: What a dull game. Now we have Johnny Damon at first base. This could get interesting. I would presume Torre didn’t use Cairo because he wants Damon leading off the next inning.
As Ed Price of the Star-Ledger just pointed out, the Yankees have used three players at first base (Posada, Phillips and Damon) who haven’t played there all season. The National League, you have to love it. Or not so much.
Mussina didn’t pitch poorly with the exception of the meatball he threw Yorvit Torrealba in the sixth inning.
UPDATE, 11:37 p.m.: I understand Clint Hurdle has a lifetime contract (at least it seems like it) but don’t you use your closer with the bases loaded in the 8th against the Yankees in this spot?
UPDATE, 11:40 p.m.: Posada had been 5 of 13 against Hawkins. That may have been the best chance the Yankees will get.
Any word on if Ortiz broke in Posada’s cap for him?
Wow it is going to be strange seeing Jorge at first!!
Nice to see Andy back, I know it isn’t really popular with some, but I really liked him. I would love if he is successful!
HAHA doesn’t Jorge even have a baseball cap?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUwJAkVbAHA
Totally unrelated to the Yankees, but I know Pete is always talking music. I just bought the new Bon Jovi album, i’ve listened to 2 songs and I have to say it is total crap! I am a huge fan and have been for almost 20 years. He totally took a left turn from his true fans. I’d bet this album will flop.
Its gonna ne great to see Andy back. If he didn’t have to leave ST because of his moms accident, this move would of been made in April.
Here’s some news…..Randy Johnson has another herniated disik in his back. His return to the Diamondbacks rotation is unknown at this time.
If he needs back surgery again, he’s done.
For all the crap Cashman gets from some, its safe to say, regardless of the return, he got rid of Johnson at just the right time. The guy is completely falling apart.
Please god tell me I just didn’t hear that Andy Phillips has taken Cairos 1B.
Hello!!!
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
This is lewd, despicable, OUTRAGEOUS. Magnificent Cairo has played spectacular defense at 1B while proving small ball with his bat and this is his reward? Now here comes career 228 AVG Andy Phillips to the rescue.
UN-BELIEV-ABLE.
Rocco, thanks for sharing the clip. I loved it.
Yep, good to see Cash traded him. I heard from one of the players that he was absolutely miserable in NY. Although what he said isn’t exactly a shock. LOL
Wang pitched pretty well with a stiff neck.
Imagine what he can do with a healthy one.
RJ was smart in agreeing to a trade and getting a contract extension. Too many people used the “he’s not comfortable in New York” excuse and ignored the fact he was a 43 year old pitcher with back problems.
man this Ordonez is amazing. I’m betting he’ll bat .450 or better this year. Why do the nats even both, just forfeit and go home.
Let’s face it, the Yanks caught lightning in a bottle with Cairo’s recent play. He’s just not this good for long stretches. Now Joe sells high and puts him back on the bench and tries to get some power out of Phillips. And he can bunt, unlike Josh Phelps.
As for the Bon Jovi fan. Wow. Take that elsewhere. Who cares about Bon Jovi?
Who’s Foff?
lightning in a bottle…yes. but the lightning is still in the bottle last i checked. why the posada experiment tonight? it’s a smack in the face to cairo. what does he have to do to earn a spot?
i imagine joe’s discussion with cairo went something like this: “miguel, you’ve been playing great lately, but we realize that you’re playing way above your head, so we are going to call up a guy from the minors who stinks and play the catcher at first for tonight. i hope you understand. we think you’ll do much better coming off the bench cold as ice.”
Phillips…….power?
No, what you do is you ride Cairo until he finally burns out. Messing with the lineup while things are going right is really a stupid thing to do.
It is not a smack in the face to Cairo. It is to get Jorge’s bat in the lineup and because he likes how Wil and Mike are working out, The only way to get Jorge’s bat is to play first. Miggy understands.
Some thoughts:
1. I really hope that Andy Phillips works out for us. He seems like a genuinely good guy who’s had some really bad breaks lately.
2. I distinctly remember over the winter that many respondents to this blog complained that we were going to lose out on Randy Johnson’s 17 wins this year. Cash was derided for what was perceived at the time by those ppl as getting poor return. Although Cash has made some mistakes with pitching talent – Pavano, Farnsy, Igawa(?) – on this one he was right on. Whatever we got in trade from Arizona (and it’s still too early to tell with the kids in the minors), it is better than the return on the dollar that Arizona is looking at.
What is with the Yankees love affair with Andy Phillips anway? I mean I know he’s a good hitter and all but he’s a career minor leaguer who has a career 220 average.
I don’t get what they see him.
Damn you Cashmoney!
“and he can bunt, unlike Josh Phelps. ”
Andy Phillips has *zero* career bunts:
http://www.baseball-reference......an01.shtml
0 Sacrifice Hits in 294 ABs
Posada has to play somewhere other than catcher every game or he will burn out. His bat is too good to leave on the bench. Where else do you play him?
You can’t kill Cash for Pavano everyone wanted him. Other teams offered more. No one had a crystal ball to know that carl would pitch a grand total of 19 games over 3 years!
Right now I agree with you on Igawa, no one thought this guy was any good except the Yankees scout. It still remains to be seen if they’ve figured out something with him.
Sorry for the double post but I meant to say “I know he’s a good guy”….not hitter.
Whoops.
Jennifer,
We are talking about AAAAndy Phillips taking Cairos spot at 1B and Miguel returning to the bench.
Vomit-Inducing.
i understand that benching miggy is to put posada’s bat in the lineup, but mussina needs to lose the rainman routine and pitch to posada. how long will this mussina-nieves combo last? how many crappy games will moose pitch before joe makes him throw to the team’s real catcher.
randy pulled this with flaherty, and people actually thought it made a difference. but with randy, i could maybe understand his discomfort with posada since he just joined the team. moose has been on the team throwing to posada for years. it seems like more of an excuse on moose’s part than some sort of chemistry issue.
I think they will split time. And don’t forget Andy had a month where he hit over .300. It wasn’t by accident.
“What is with the Yankees love affair with Andy Phillips anway?”
i don’t think it’s a love affair. they’re giving it a shot. he’s hitting well in AAA, he deserves on last chance.
i am positive Cashman has another solution in mind at the trade deadline.
you guys are nuts if you think cairo is a starting 1Bman in the majors.
i would agree that given the options, just go with Cairo’s glove, but Phillips is a very good fielder.
if he gives you the defense, then why not take a crack at catching lightning in a bottle? if he has another flukish month like last june, the yanks might steal a win or 2 and give themselves some leverage in trade talks.
there is at least a little upside there. cairo has none.
I think it is more Joe than Mike. They are going with what is working. Are you going to wish for a poor game for Jorge to catch again?
Jennifer-I’m not killing Cash on Pavano; I thought it was a good deal myself at the time. We were all fooled. I’m currently being hopeful about Iggy.
Green Tea – My understanding of the Moose-Nieves pairing was that it was Joe’s idea, to give Posada a guaranteed day off every 5. Further, from the summaries that I’ve read in the papers, Moose has actually pitched better of late with Nieves catching. Probably just a statistical fluke, or more to do with Moose’s own issues, but this doesn’t seem to have anything to do with either Moose’s poor performances or his idiosyncrasies.
I bet all the people complaining about Cairo not being in the lineup are the same people outraged that he was being brought back at at the beginning of the year.
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“Joe Torre said the Yankees wanted Phillips because he can do more things offensively.”
Name one.
What a stupid thing to say Ryan.
That’s like me saying you were one of those many Yankee fans booing and wanting to trade A-ROD.
Now your all over A-Rod…Extend him! Extend him!
Am I getting hot…or cold?
Hmm,
I see your point but we already have lightning in a bottle in Cairo. He’s hitting 330 since he started at 1B. Why not just let him ride this streak and once he gets cold insert Phillips?
I just don’t like them messing with things when everything is going well.
Tinkering with the lineup is something you do when your having problems not when your cruising.
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As for Mussina. I wouldn’t worry about the Nieves combo because it’s giving Posada some extra days off, plus Moose is actually pitching better with Nieves so might as well ride that storm. Towards the end of the year and playoffs I’d bet that Posada will resume catching Moose.
I dont have a problem with Nieves catching Moose. Like has already been said it does give Posada a guranteed day off. As I have said before was/am also a pHillies fan and it never hurt the team (chemistry)when Steve Carlton only had McCarver catching him over Bob Boone. Nopt that Moose is Steve Carlton on the mound.
I also agree that I think Torre will use Phillips to split time with Cairo. Cairo is not used to playing everday and giving him a few days off wont hurt him, I mean he sat for over a month on the bench not doing anything.
Jorgie at first should be interesting
What a trio of losers: Hudson Mulder Zito. I’m glad Cash didn’t sign anyone of them.
Any word on how Igawa did today at practice (word has it Guidry wanted to see him before bringing him up)
Nieves is going to have to play on a regular basis after June when the days off get fewer and fewer so they might as well get him some AB’s and increase Posada’s days off. I like the move.
Philips passed through waivers, which means no other team in baseball thought he was even good enough to make their big league club. I hope he is good b/c I have always wanted him to succeed but I don’t think he is going to be an upgrade over Phelps. But hey at least he can catch a ball.
Cairo is our utility infielder, you need someone at that position, he can’t play first everyday so everyone stop complaining about it.
Did the D-Backs actually give Johnson that extension or was it just rumored? Terrible move if they did, he was hurt this offseason and hasn’t been healthy in a few years. You don’t extend him until he proves he can stay healthy.
After doing some research on 1b, I realize I’m sold on Wigginton. Won’t cost much and is a good player. He hits better than Minky, Phelps, Philips, Cairo and also has a pretty good glove.
Also I learned I don’t know who the GM of the Rangers is but whoever it has been (Hart, Daniels) I don’t think they have got hosed in any deal but Sori to the Nats. Adrian Gonzalez is a horse but they had Tex and Eaton for Young wasn’t bad at the time. 6’10″ guys usually are question marks.
oops,
What’s Mulder up to? Is he hurt?
..i guess the best thing that i’ve noticed is this ..
…you know things are going pretty good in Yankees land when Miguel Cairo is the HEADLINE story on every blog!!
.. good to see – good to know!
Let’s go Yanks!!
Nick B.
Mulder has been out since end of last season after shoulder surgery.
I’m sort if interested why ANYONE would want to see Andy Phillips on the big league roster again, and what the hell people think he does offensively thats better than anyone.
For the record on the personal catcher thing, I think i heard that it was Torre’s idea not Mussina’s
Welcome back Andy! Hopefully you’ll be better than last year, or more importantly better than Josh Phelps has been this year. Sorry we went with Phelps, we were seduced by his spring, lesson learned. Seize the opportunity! Seize the day! You’ll probably get your first game action in the 7th today after Moose leaves the game and Jorge shifts to behind the plate. Guess Cairo is the emergency catcher now too. Anyway, the bench feels incremently better today, and that’s not just because Damon is on it.
It is a wicked sun field.
I think it is worth a shot to let go of Phelps and try Andy. I was tired of 6-4-3, 5-4-3 DPs every time that Phelps got up. He was also a butcher at 1B.
Cairo has done a nice job but it seems like Torre, Cashman et al don’t think he can play every day. Andy P can play 2nd and maybe SS and is worth the experiment.
I would have to guess that this is a stop-gap until the trading market heats up.
Boston and Detroit both well on their way to victory tonight. And Beckett looks terrific.
Jete and Jorge made a nice play.
TK Andy has also played third. So this move gives us a second utlity guy.
TK Andy has also played third. So this move gives us a second utlity guy.
Actually a 3rd
Cairo, Basak, and now Phillips
Wow, Beckett actually had an RBI double. Is the NL pathetic or what?
3-0 in the 6th is “well on the way to victory”? Have some faith. Although I agree with an earlier poster who said I would rather Schilling stayed in the rotation, he usually gets rocked.
Yep my bad. Although Basak doesn’t seem to see much playing time.
“3-0 in the 6th is “well on the way to victoryâ€??”
Yep.
Beckett has been dominating so far.
And if you look at things realistically, the Yanks are going to have to play at an incredible pace to catch either Boston or Detroit. It looks like those early games that Pete and some fans thought were meaningless might just turn out to be season-killers for the Yanks.
Beckett is one of the best pitchers in baseball, and would probably be so behind Santana and Halladay if he could keep his fingers from blistering. I don’t know why you guys expect him to lose?? He is going to win 8 out of 10 on a regular basis.
I can’t believe the idiot Torre is playing Pos . . .
Oops!
Torre is a genius, no wonder he won those world series!!!!
(I would hate to be a manager, no wonder they say they don’t read the papers!)
i understand phelps’ defense was questionable at best, but in his limited plate appearances, he batted .263. not great, but a better avg. than damon, melky, giambi, mientkiewicz, cairo, and nieves.
and considering how few at bats he had, his 12 RBIs aren’t too bad compared to damon, cabrera, melky, and mientkiewicz who’ve all had significantly more at-bats, but only a handful more RBIs…
“Beckett is one of the best pitchers in baseball, and would probably be so behind Santana and Halladay if he could keep his fingers from blistering. I don’t know why you guys expect him to lose?? He is going to win 8 out of 10 on a regular basis.”
And he looks better than any starter on the Yanks staff.
Ah, Wang looks pretty good but I’d take Beckett in a second. He has awesome stuff and a good makeup. He definately is one of the best.
2nd and 3rd, no outs. 1 run out of it. Pathetic.
Good god is Nieves a terrible hitter.
hughes will have a far better career than beckett if he stays healthy.
It’s a battle to see who is better at the plate: Moose or Nieves???
Hey hawkandwimpy isn’t there a redsox blog you can post on? Oh I know 38pitches.
wang is “pretty good”. what the hell are you smoking?
david,
you have no idea what you are talking about. the yanks will thank god every day if hughes ends up being as good as beckett. he was hughes before hughes was and has shown he can win the big game. he just has blister problems and its nothing he can control
he isn’t great? what do you want me to say
wang has shown the unbelievably rare trait in a successful young pitcher– the ability to change and evolve. i would not trade him straight up for beckett.
I will say one thing about bringing up Phillips here. If there’s anywhere to being AAAAndy up, its in Colorado. The breaking pitches don’t break. Its just like AAA!
i didn’t say i would, but that deal would never happen no matter who was better so it’s nothing to think about
Cabrerra instead of Damon fine. I just don’t know why he insists on batting him leadoff. Just condense the lineup.
beckett is 66-46 for his career, including this year. great? someone who has been on the dl 10 times? please.
Jeter doesn’t like batting 1st
he is going to be 10-1 after tonight? who is the last pitcher we have had go 10-1 to start a season? i said he had blister problems, its not like he has a history of arm trouble like Pavano, this guy was the #2 pick in the draft in 99 and was traded for one of the best packages of prospects the Marlins have received, which is saying a lot
Beckett Rules! We get your point. The season is over, no point in playing the remaining 95 games, no team in history has come back from 4 down with only 95 games left. Maybe we can still break down the team and trade everyone for single A OF’ers or backup catching prospects. That’s probably the best course of action. 4 games!!!! Why don’t we just get AA kids in the lineup, it’s over!!
whatever. you take beckett. i’ll take the wanger.
Jeff,
Why be a moron? Can’t I say other players have good players too?
dont think ive ever heard “great” associated, spoken or whispered in the company of Beckett. Maybe if McCarver was on repeat during 03 WS but thats all i can think of.
Nick, no reason to call names. My comments were really addressed at the other guy. As for you, if you want to spend all your time talking about how great the opposition players, I reserve the right to skip your comments completely.
2 men on for A-Rod? Thin mountain air?
Please notify local aircraft to clear the area!!!
why not dance when you get that lucky, Josh.
Nick and Jeff need a room.
Hope the early scoring opportunity we didn’t capitalize on isn’t the story of this game.
Jeter with a double, Abreu with the walk. Awesome job with 2 outs. Too bad A-Rod struck out
Lucky Cash didn’t sign Kaz, he made a play for him but the Mets offered more, and also moved Reyes to 2nd for him.
Nick B. June 19th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Beckett is one of the best pitchers in baseball, and would probably be so behind Santana and Halladay if he could keep his fingers from blistering. I don’t know why you guys expect him to lose?? He is going to win 8 out of 10 on a regular basis.
Name me one pitcher in history who’s ever won 8 out of 10 regularly?????
I think they’d be pleased if he won 6 out of 10 and stayed healthy maybe for one whole season before you crown him Cy Young.
The Yankees never made a play for Kaz Matsui.
They already have a pretty solid Shortstop from what I remember.
Where do some guys come up with this nonsense?
speaking for the “other guy”, i responded– goodnaturedly i thought– to the coronation of beckett as great. good i can accept. maybe great going forward (i hope not). we’ll se.
Tavarez was out. Another bad call. HOWEVER, if Nieves had done anythnig BUT throw the ball in the dirt, he would have got him. It’s really Nieves’ fault.
Why are you guys stuck on Beckett? Can we please talk about the game at hand and save this banter for Yankees.com?
Asst Manager,
They wanted him to play 2nd. Go back and read articles about when he was a free agent.
Beckett has won .58% of his starts already. So I guess by your standards he isn’t to bad.
If he stays healthy, who is better than Santana and Halladay? Not Lackey, not Haren, not Peavy, not Willis.
Asst Manager,
Here is a quote from an article for you and the link
“And the Yankees will be in the hunt, too — if they can persuade Matsui to switch from shortstop to second base.
Matsui has said he wants to remain at shortstop, but the Yankees have been known to wear down players with their money and their mystique.”
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....ari12.html
Cashman never made an offer. So, no they didn’t go after Kaz Matsui. It was all speculation from newspaper writers that you apparently bought into.
And I never said Beckett was bad. But you said he was an 80% winner. Which is obviously very, very wrong. I said they’d be happy if he was a 60% winner. And I think I’m right on that, Nick, right?
Beckett is great, let’s move on.
READ THE ARTICLE
Exaclty, Nick, like I said.
Just writer speculation about being in the hunt. If rumor and innuendo were fact by your thesis, the Yanks would be in on every free agent that was available.
Jeff,
HAHA, thanks
Jeff NJ, mind your own business.
Nick and I are allowed to have a little chat about baseball. Unlike you with your juvenile name calling and cheap shots.
Anyone else notice something remarkable about this game so far? Moose has not thrown (to my eyes) a single curveball. He must feel that he can’t get enough break on it at the altitude.
Should be very interesting to see how well he can do without his best pitch. So far so good.
There were like 25 articles. Did you want me to link to all of them? I remember Kaz coming to New York with Tellum and meeting with the Yanks. Do you want me to find pictures of there meeting?
That call came back to haunt us
You guys can have conversations around my pitty arguments
Yeah like I said Nick. Articles written by writers who get paid to speculate especially during the off season.
All speculating about many, many free agents.
For the last time since you are apparently not reading what I’m saying. That doesn’t mean any offer EVER CAME FROM THE YANKEES.
Thanks, Nick.
Kevin I had seen some quotes from Moose about that exact thing. He said that when he pitched there before he didnt get the action he normally got and really felt like when he threw it it didnt go where it was supposed to . it will be interesting to see if he changes his mind on that one as the game progresses
58%? That’s no where near that crazy 8 out of 10 comment awhile back now is it?
You ever think he came in with a game plan not to throw the curve early in the mile high air???
He met with the Yankees. I’ll find the link to make you happy. If he met with the Yankees then they were interested in his services. I guess no final offer was probably ever made b/c he wouldn’t switch positions but he was here meeting with Cashman. If you agree with that then we are on the same page.
The 80% Nick thing and the 58%fact is an example of Nick fudging those facts in his outrageous statements. I guess exaggerating is okay for Nick when discussing things.
I said he’ll win 8 of 10 this year. Not for the rest of eternity and his entire past. If he doesn’t win 8 of every 10 decisions you can call me out on it and I will apologize.
I’m sorry but as a player I hate Andy Phillips. I just do, he’s awful and he never does a damn thing to help the team win. Cairo proved a few years ago that when you let him play everyday, he can be a near .300 hitter when he hit .290 in 2004. Give him his due! Why have an automatic out like Phillips in the lineup? Makes no sense at all.
58% career winning percentage
80% this year
Thats all I said
Isn’t a GM’s job to do due diligence on every free agent and couldn’t that meeting have been more Tellem trying to inflate his clients worth on the open market?
No agent ever used the Yanks for leverage right????
LOL.
Who cares? Cashman never wanted him hence no offer.
I should just call you 80% Nick now.
Ok me and every sports writer in America that said the Yanks asked him to move to 2nd are crazy and you guys are right! Haha, I wasn’t at the meeting, I am just telling you what I remember.
So Rufus….does that mean we’re not allowed to comment on the fact that he doesn’t feel comfortable throwing his curve? You ever think that you are an idiot???
Is that ok?
asst manager, nick needs to have the last word. let him have it.
Step up 80% Nick. Say your peace. Exaggerate at will.
Nick,
66-46 is not a 58% winning record. What will you do with the no decisions?
Nah Kev. I think your an idiot for your lack of class. But I also think your sort of dimwitted for not realizing Moose may have a game plan and actually perform his game plan.
Heavens to Betsy!!
I don’t know? Do we have money on this? I didn’t know I needed a formula. He wins 58% of his decisions then.
Lol Rufus!
Mussina would never go out there with a plan.
Yanks do exactly what everyone expected them to…try to hit homeruns. Why dont they try actually working the count with a pitcher who has a 6 era.
cut the insults out, cheer on the yankees
Great college world series game if anyone cares. UC Irvine came back from 5 down in the 8th to tie it up.
The NL may be easier but I’m sure glad we don’t have to watch the pitcher bat 153 times a year
A game like this worries me a bit. Bad at bats by the Yankees, swinging at first pitch, not getting the clutch hit. I do actually trust Moose pitching and Posada at first though. I hate to jump on the “we need Damon in the lineup as our catalyst” crowd, but guess we’ll see.
FYI, if I’m not mistaken the only game they have lost in the last 12 was the one game Damon didn’t start, am I right?
yankees always have problems with pitchers with a 6 era.
I get why Cairo was benched and Posada is at 1st.
His bat is needed although putting in Nieves kinda negates Posada’s offense.
He had a day off already. He should have been catcher today, but then again Moose works well with Nieves, so it makes sense.
The other reason I see putting Posada at 1st is a tryout of sorts. One day he will have to change positions to remain relevant.
THANK GOD PHELPS IS GONE!! HALLELUJAH!!
I’ll take a lump of dirt over phelps. Put a lump of dirt at 1st and it’s better than Phelps.
Welcome back Andy. Put up your AAA numbers here in the bigs this time, okay.
Nick B. The Yankees had a decent 2nd baseman named Alphonso Soriano at the time Matsui was available, why they weren’t interested. Matsui signed w/ the Muts, the Arod-Soriano trade took place the following February. Beckett has looked good against the yankees the past few times BTW. They have his number.
Nick, the article you posted doesn’t mean the Yankees ever met with Kaz, all it says is some writer saying the Yankees will be in the hunt, but the writer doesn’t say how he knows this, it’s just speculation as usual from small market sportswriters that believe the Yankees will go after every free agent. I don’t remember that ever happening and it doesn’t seem that anybody else here remembers the Yankees meeting with him. If you can find an article saying otherwise, by all means, post it, but you can’t argue that we have to believe you based on an article that does not back up your story.
Matsui signed with the Mets in Dec, 2003, Arod trade took place in Feb 2004.
WOW, Tom Hicks just laimed juan-gone used steroids on a nationally televised interview
A Lot of Love on the Blog tonight!!! You guys are crankier than Mussina on anything other than regular rest!
I honestly believe that if you picked a random poster off of here and put him/her in the lineup, they would have an equal chance of getting a hit as does Nieves.
Scouts were debating on who was better, Matsui or Tejada guys? I’m not making this stuff up. Go read his scouting report from the year he came over. A lot said there is no way they would take him over Miggy but some said they would because he was faster and better defensively. Sounds crazy now but it is true. I just report what I read, and not from beat writers.
TimH,
They were going to move ALFONSO Soriano to the outfield. That is when the questioned moving him to CF as Bernie was diminishing.
All my scout sources are password protected so I can’t post links to those but I’ll post an article with the Yanks meeting with him.
I’m really not liking the Yankees offense right now against a pitcher with a 5.00ERA while hitting in the best hitting ballpark out there.
“I honestly believe that if you picked a random poster off of here and put him/her in the lineup, they would have an equal chance of getting a hit as does Nieves.”
Well yeah, but this blog attracts all ex jock macho athletes. Maybe we should form a team and challenge Replacement Level?
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/.....0&
Chris, I hear you. I don’t get a good feeling about this game, hopefully, it’s just indigestion.
There is a New York times one for you. That is as credible as what Pete tells us? Is that good for you guys?
Nick B. you’re full of baloney, they asked Soriano one time if he would go to the outfield and he said NO. End of story. Yankees NEVER had any interest in Matsui, if they did they would have signed him. Go talk smack on BDC.
TimH,
What are you on here once a week? Go kiss your mommy good night and get to bed, it’s getting late precious. I have read 10 different scouting reports and linked to articles from the New York Times. But I guess you know more than them. You are an IDIOT
I’m done reading about how big of a flop Kaz was by the way. If you don’t believe the articles I posted then thats your problem
Nick B. I’ve followed the Yankees for over 50 years, I am news addict, I read 3 papers daily including the NY Times, and now all the sites on the internet. I am a season ticket holder. The Yankees never had any interest in Kaz Matsui.
Plenty of innings to go. Only down by 1. They just need to find it in Colorodo and all will be well.
Maybe the air pressure is effecting their joints.
Oi Alex, the pressure is hell on my joints at this age.
The Yanks have 2 pitchers in the lineup and most of the time 3. I know Cabrera just got a hit but 90% of the time he is totally over matched. This personal catcher thing is pathetic. Johnson pulled the same thing and the real reason was he was at the end of his career and was just bad. Maybe Mussina should realize it is him needing to make adjustments and it doesnt matter who catches him. Nieves is a joke…a pitch out and 2 stolen bases and he cant throw to 2nd on any of them. Awful defense…
Ok, the New York Times just said it for fun. They like to make up stuff like that. Read the article
Would someone kill Michael Kay. Mike Gallego started the turn around!! A lot of people give him credit!! Why are we made to suffer threw this play by play mans moronic color commentary
Nick B. Calling someone you’ve never met an idiot is an indication of what kind of you person you are.
Or I might be right if you can’t read an article from a beat writer from a New York newspaper to figure out you were wrong
having some real problems with SBs tonight and our lack of timely hitting. I really wanted to stray away from the nightmares i was having with Reyes running everywhere.
Hate to break the news to you, every reporter has an agenda too, NY is an AL-NL town there are many columnist right in NY who hate the Yankees and float garbage and rumors daily. Mike Lupica a good example. Don’t believe everything you read, if the Yankees wanted a ball player and to keep him from the Mets, it would have been done. The Mets needed a 2nd baseman, the Yankees did not.
I love how people love to brag that they read the New York Times. Like it makes them better than the rest cause they read a NY paper that isn’t written on a 5th grade level.
NY Times is a rag like the rest of them. Just cause they don’t have Ziggy, doesn’t make it a intellectual choice.
i actually did want to read the article. Kepner is great on the Bats blog but can you hook me up with your info for the log-in Nick? Thanks pal!!!
If I had a nickle for every rumor floated in the NY dailies about the Yankees I’d be a wealthy man.
Do you guys realize that you’re arguing over Kaz Matsui?
Yeah the NY times is a rag, that’s why I go to multiple sources for my news. Night folks. Go Bombers
tonyb,
you wouldn’t imagine the crap on read on this bum during this stupid argument. ok the yanks didn’t want him. fine, i don’t care.
Seriously Tony, I was thinking the same thing.
Out of all the people, Kaz Matsui.. a nobody.
dang i gave up two seconds to early. nice arguing with ya old man. go yanks
Arod like everyone else trying to hit a grand slam. Yet another crap pitcher shutting them down. This is why a decent throwing catcher is important speed kills the Yanks because they cant throw out base runners. The Yanks are too slow to steal bases against the opposing team and get into scoring position.
Same to you punk.
A little consistency from this home plate ump would be nice. I mean both sides
oops
Why does Kay get so excited about a Rockies homerun? I find him to be extremely annoying. Someone needs to realize that and fire him. Kay is incredibly obnoxious.
And the Yanks really need to score some runs. 1 run for the Yanks’ offense in Coors field against a pitcher with a 5.00ERA is just pathetic.
Do you hit for Moose if someone gets in scoring position? I would
9 games behind Boston
5 behind the wild card
fun stuff
How can we be in Coors Field with this lineup and only have 1 run in the 7th inning? And their number 8 hitter hits a homer?? What’s up with that??
According to GameDay, there’s been 5 Yankee outs in the track, is that true?
is there a full moon?
pretty damn close chofo
Yanks need to lose the grand slam swings. They have tried every single inning. Especially Cano and Matsui. Who dont hit homeruns for the most part. They have both been up 2-0 in a couple of at bats and swung out of there shoes.
For the record, the NY Times is written at a 7th grade reading level. It’s a fun little fact I picked up long ago…
Josh Fogg shut the Red Sox down last week in Fenway Park. There are nights he is on and, unfortunately, tonight is one of them.
Okay, 7th inning, down by two. We need to start hitting. Two runs is nothing in Corrs. Time for an A-bomb from A-Rod if you ask me. Anyone see the write up, either in the Daily News or in the Post, on A-Rod being on pace to challenge Marris’ 61 AL home run record? He’s on pace for 65 now.
Winning 14 out of the last 17 has spoiled everyone…Now we expect a victory every night. Some nights the offense is going to be flat, and I think tonight is one of those nights. Sorry, but Fogg is not a good pitcher. If he was, the White Sox wouldn’t have dumped him back when he being billed as the next “hot prospect” in their organization.
He’s good tonight. That’s all that matters to us
I HATE M. KAY.
I actually ask myself every game if he actually is a Yankees fan. He critques them to death and gets happen when the other team scores off of them. Fire his stupid ass.
we’ve always hit latroy hawkins he overthrows trying to impress cuz he grew up a Yankee fan and wants to play here
You also have to take into account the time difference and the change in atmosphere (that thin Colorado air)…Those two factors could certainly have our hitters feeling sluggish. Again, I refuse to give props to Fogg. I don’t care if he shut down the ’27 Yankees once upon a time…He’s not that flippin’ good. Dumped by the White Sox, then had a cup of coffee with the Pirates before ending up in Colorado. Not the resume of a HOF pitcher.
It would be nice if the umpires strike zone was consistent. Especially when pitches look to be right down the middle.
ok that was ridiculous. Myers struck him out easily. This ump is a hater obviously.
YEY DAMON ON FIRST
Now Damon’s at first base? Did I hear that correctly? I’m at work and it’s pretty hard to hear what’s going on..thanks
Jesus when torre goes to the bullpen he doesn’t stop he went from 1 pitcher to 4 in a inning in a game were losing
If the score remains as it is right now, then the Yankees will be something like 6-20 in games decided by two runs or less. I know there’s a lot of the season left, etc., etc., but that’s a very troubling statistic. I wonder how many playoff teams in recent history have had such a poor record in close games?
lets go now guys…late inning rally
With the MiLB.tv package… do they only broadcast AAA games, or will Staten Island, Trenton games potentially find their way onto the slate of “televised” games? I want to see Betances pitch tomorrow night, but can’t make it and it’s sold out anyway.
Torre should of just left Vizcaino in. Myers got squeezed and he wasted another pitcher and player. Wasting pitchers in a game they are losing. Villone hasnt pitched in 2 weeks and he is going to bring him into a 2 run game. Damon cant hit anyway. There was no reason to take Vizcaino out.
Record-wise, two of the worst teams in the majors playing for bragging rights.
And Fogg does a “J.P. Howell” on the Yanks.
Does anyone find it strange that the New York Yankees seem to have a new center fielder and not much has been said or is this Johnny Damon DHing stuff temporary?
Moose was fine, but that homerun in the 6th was SO Moose. When he gets pissed off, he throws crap. Like that helps. His temper gets the best of him when he’s out there. It’s a shame he doesn’t have more control over his emotions. He’s hurt us so many times because he’s ticked at the umpire’s calls.
cmon A-Rod!!
Come on ARod – come on ARod . . . This is Coors field for goodness sake. Wouldn’t you think he would LOVE this field??
actually have a good question if anyone cares to try and answer…
… jeter has now hit in 13 straight games (again)
now we all now of dimaggio’s streak, and even rose’s streak .. but does anybody have any idea of what player holds the record for the MOST 20 game hit streaks? … 25 game hit streaks??
i was thinking that jeter might actually be somewhere in that class.
… again – just wondering
… ok – gotta go .. arod’s up in the 8th as the go-ahead run and 2 outs.
let’s see some more MAGIC!!!
All Arod is going to get is breaking balls and off speed. Definitely no fastballs here.
He so did not want to pitch to ARod. 4 straight pitches.
Cmon Jorge . . . Cmon Jorge . . .
If Hawkings actually gets an out here then you know the win was not meant to be…because Hawkins does not get big outs. Yanks are known to kill him. Hopefully Posada will be patient here.
ya every pitch was a bit off the plate but enough so to see if arod would go fishing for one good eye by arod not trying to force it lets go posada
You have to knock in those runs early because they always come back to haunt you late.
solid contact just right at the shortstop oh well lets see if we can push two across next inning although its going to be harder because not our big bats
ouch, laT was pretty dirty
Jeter would not have gotten to that ball.
Did anyone else catch the shot of the dugout. These guys look sleepy. I guess it is very tiring climbing up from the hole they dug. Maybe they shouldn’t have taken that early batting practice today and just slept in.
Cano is absolutely pathetic. He swings at the first pitch?/!! He is 100% over raided. Someone needs to put him in his place, he thinks he is the greatest player ever. If the Yanks lose this game there last 2 losses will be 2-0, 3-1. So there pitchers arent getting beaten up there offense is doing nothing.I guess it happens. But it would be nice if they spread out the runs. When they win they score 10 runs and there loses they do nothing. There is no inbetween with them.
that background music is getting on my nerves
Boys must have had jet lag but I think they will be rested by next game. They did the same thing against the Mets and ended up winning the next two games. Rockies pitching wasn’t too shabby though.
“over raided”??
Did the SWAT team come out in full force and swarm his locker?
Cano is not playing well. 2nd and 3rd 1 0out the infield in, weak grounder on maybe the 2nd pitch. In the ninth maybe that was the 2nd ppitch. they need him to do something with men on base.
I thought Moose pitched fine, they could not get any big hits….
Texiera is out till the all star break, they are not getting him if at all for a while…..
What is Moose going to use for excuses or complaints this time he didn’t get a W?
Uh, dude – he gave up 3 runs in 6 innings in Coors Field. That’s more than adequate.
Some nights the offense doesn’t help.
But then, wins are utterly meaningless as a statistic for pitchers. I’ll take 3-in-6 from Mussina every time, thank you much.
“over raided” LOL! So is your spelling.
River Ave.
1. The altitude.
2. The humidor wasn’t working right.
3. Too much rest.
4. The long flight.
5. The umpire.
6. His teammates.
7. All of the above.
Kevin,
Wins are “utterly meaningless” as a statistic for pitchers? I guess they should they start giving the World Series trophy to the team with the lowest ERA then.
Sorry. I’ll take a guy who pitches to the scoreboard, goes deep into a game, and can win ugly when necessary (like Jack Morris) over a guy with a low ERA who’s looking over his shoulder to the bullpen at the first sign of trouble and always finds a way to do just enough to lose (like Mussina) any day.
I want a pitcher that allows 3 or less runs a game.
If we cant win with our starter allowing 3 runs or less, we have a problem. occaisonally its ok, but wins certainly is overrated. Look at Pettitte, by far one of the best AL pitchers this year and he’s got so few wins.
Jack Morris 254-186 3.90 in 527 starts
Mike Mussina 242-137 3.66 in 485 starts
Whats with the Mussina hate. He has always been a winner. He doesnt look to the bullpen at the first sign of trouble, Joe does. Moose never wants to leave a game, watch them sometimes. He does whine a bit, and is very picky, but if you like ERA, hes your guy. And if you like lots of wins and not so many losses he is your guy as well. Hes struggled a bit here, although he seems to be coming out of it. Cut him some slack.
Marius-Thats funny. I actually talked to my co-workers about Michael Kay tonight. He ALWAYS mensions when a guy is throwing a no hitter and the next guy up gets a hit. He ALWAYS mensions when guys dont hit homers in a while and the guy hits a homer against us. He talks about how CashMan makes bad moves. I like him on Yankeeography but as a color commentator he’s not good.
randyhater,
So you’re saying you’ll take
a) the guy who gives up 9 runs in five innings but gets the win because his team was leading 10-9 and went on to win
over
b) the guy who gives up 1 run in nine innings but loses because his team couldn’t score?
If you can’t see why wins are a meaningless stat in the era of 6-inning starters, then I can’t really say anything else.
Also, I guess Clemens’ last start was awful because he didn’t “pitch to the scoreboard” or whatever. I mean, he gave up TWO whole runs when his team scored none! What a crappy effort by the Rocket, right?
Pitchers don’t control how their offense does, unless you’re angry that Mussina didn’t hit a couple homers tonight.
RandyHater really has made one of the stupidest comments of all time…
Sorry I didnt know this was a spelling contest. I guess you have never typed the wrong word….