Game 71: Yankees at Giants
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Here are the lineups:
YANKEES
Cabrera CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Posada C
Matsui LF
Cano 2B
Cairo 1B
Igawa LHP (2-1, 7.63)
GIANTS
Roberts CF
Winn RF
Durham 2B
Bonds LF
Molina C
Felix 1B
Frandsen 3B
Vizquel C
Cain RHP (2-7, 3.15)
Pregame chatter: Lots of news today. Alex Rodriguez said he will not participate in the Home Run Derby at the All-Star Game. … Johnny Damon has been shut down until Tuesday, at which point they will decide whether to put him on the disabled list. The plan is only to use him as a pinch hitter if needed. … LHP Sean Henn was optioned back to Scranton. … Roger Clemens is here, just like he has been every day since he was called up. … The local Taiwanese media sent Chien-Ming Wang several fruit baskets as a welcome gift. Wang told his teammates to have at them. I asked Wang if he expected the New York media to give him a gift. “Only you,” he said. I told him I would get him a case of beer and he laughed. Wang is quite excited about pitching here tomorrow. He’s also eager to swing the bat.
UPDATE, 9:08 p.m.: Just flipped through the comments quickly. Just FYI, I was told the Yankees have no interest in Milton Bradley. Personally, I would rather my team lose than win with guys like Milton Bradley or Elijah Dukes. … If you’re ever thinking of going on a road trip to see a game, this is where you should go. What a terrific stadium. If the Yankees built this place, they would be doing well. … Also, I have no real interest in Josh Phelps one way or another. Personally, I think they should have kept him and gotten rid of Chris Basak. I just find it funny to crack on him and see all his stathead supporters get upset. How could they get rid of a guy with such a good RZA is beyond me.
UPDATE, 11:05 p.m.: The K-Man is dealing. He was accompanied here by Gil Patterson, the minor-league pitching coach who has been working him the last seven weeks. Patterson explained to us before the game that they’ve been working on Igawa’s balance and arm slot. Patterson, in addition to being a very good guy, is an accomplished coach who has been on several major league staffs as a pitching coach. He signed on with he Yankees because he wanted to be close to his family in Tampa.
That two-run single by Melky Cabrera marks the first time this season he has had two RBI in a game.
You may have heard this note already, but did you know that Roger Clemens became the oldest Yankee to get a hit when he singled yesterday?
Beautiful night for a game here. Just perfect.
UPDATE, 11:32 p.m.: That’s lousy baseball by Abreu. If he ran hard, he would have been at third. It doesn’t matter because he scored anyway, but still.
UPDATE, 12:06 a.m.: Igawa showed you something with his five strikeouts in 4.2 innings. But he throws too many pitches and walks too many hitters in big spots. You simply can’t walk Ray Durham twice with Barry Bonds on deck. How can an experienced pitcher do that? This is not a kid, this is a guy who was an All-Star in Japan. It doesn’t speak well to the quality of the hitters in Japan — or the Yankees’ scouting in Japan.
Meanwhile, Billy Crystal and Robin Williams are here and sitting in the front row. OK, good for them. Show them once and let’s move on. But, no. The TV broadcast here has shown them at least 10 times. It’s Billy Crystal and Robin Williams, not Pacino and DeNiro or Jagger and Springsteen. Take it easy.
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thus ends the dreams of some here to add bradley to the roster…
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Some thoughts –
1. I’m glad Alex is sitting out the homer contest. First of all, I think the contest is silly. It also seems to put down the other aspects of baseball (”small ball”) that can be so important. Secondly, we’ve seen what swinging for the fences can do to some people’s swings (Abreu lost home run stroke after his partcipating; same thing for David Wright).
2. I hope they (Damon, Joe and Cash) are on top of this “to DL or not to DL, that is the question” thing. How far retroactive can they make the designation?
3. If they’re not going to use Henn, then send him down so he can get regular work and continue to develop. I hope this means that they’re working on some deal for Villone. We know, for better and/or worse, what Villone can offer. Maybe I’m being too optimistic, but I’d rather see more of Henn in the relief role.
damaged goods
I’m not sold on Henn. I don’t think his ceiling is all that high. I wouldn’t be averse to trading him (probably in a package deal with other players as well) if we could get someone decent in return.
Henn sucks. They should attempt to trade him and get something for him before they just have to DFA him.
The Yanks should put Damon on the disabled list after this weekend, call up Brett Gardner, and bat Gardner at leadoff every day until the All-Star Break (13 games after this weekend’s series). Let’s see what he can do.
Chicago Dave – you may be right about his ceiling. I just remember that he got Ortiz out a few times (at least one a strike out, maybe twice). He may have a career as a lefty specialist. In any case, if the deal is right, I’d trade him also. I just have a lesser regard for Villone.
Nice Wu Tang reference.
For the record, I’m not one of the people saying Phelps is a better defensive 1B then Mientkiewicz. That is nonsense.
I totally agree with Peter on not wanting Dukes and Bradley..hopefully we won’t be getting updates from Peter on Phelps when he is setting Pittsburgh ablaze.
Damon is holding the Yanks hostage. This is absurd.
“If the Yankees built this place, they would be doing well.”
What do you mean? The stadium only holds 41k and the Yankees average more then that.
Joe from LI – Personally, I’m not high on Henn, Villone, Farnsworth, Meyers or Vizcaino…but we certainly can’t trade all those guys at once! Realistically speaking, I would initially keep Henn, Vizcaino and Meyers, while I would trade Villone and Farnsworth. Too bad Philly is doing better…if they had totally tanked I’m sure we could have gotten Lieber back for those two guys.
Who actually makes the decision to put a player on the disabled list? I thought Management would be able to make the call – are they just treating Damon with kid gloves because he has never been on the DL before? Is that really a streak that has to be respected?
Maybe it really doesn’t matter anyway because we don’t have another power bat to put at DH.
Garner needs another year in the minors. He’ll probly be at AA for about a month, and if he continues to do well, he’ll be promoted to AAA.
Henn has a celing of being a power shutdown lefty set-up man, something that doesn’t grow on trees.
When are they planning on putting Myers on the hot seat. He can’t get lefties out for whatever reason this year. I say give him 10 more days, if he doesn’t improve by then, DFA him and call-up Henn. Then try out both Henn and Villone in the LOGGY role, plus they ca also be used in Middle-relief and long-relief.
When are they trading Vizcaino? They held on to him so he can build some value, when he done that, now trade him, before he blows up again.
Sign Romero to a Minor-league deal. And try him if villone or/and don’t work out.
Wasn’t Romero busted for ‘roids at one point? One thing is for sure, he’s been crap since he left the Twins. I wouldn’t bother with him… Vizcaino has actually been showing signs of improvement lately. Better than you can say for Farnsworth. So, I’d rather see Farnsworth go out of the two.
Britton didn’t all that bad while he was up.
Nice to rip on knowledgable baseball fans with the stat head comment again. Not good to have contempt for possible consumers of your newspaper.
Don’t take it personal, this is a blog, it was a harmless comment.
Can someone drill Roberts in the head? Thanks.
Going to be a long evening and weekend, maybe we can get some of those games back we lost with the Rockies. I’ll be watching both games (Boston).
The new Iggy. Heaven help us if he isn’t up to the task.
I don’t think anybody was “dreaming” of adding Bradley to the roster.
All some of us were saying is to check him out. I don’t think anybody is losing sleep over whether or not they add Milton Bradley to the roster.
As far as Dukes is concerned, not a lot of guys with his skills are always available to the Yankees. No question, the guy has SERIOUS issues. The Yankees, being mostly based in Tampa, probably know the real deal with him.
If they don’t think they can help him, again, nobody is going to lose sleep over it.
If they think they can help him, and they make a move to get him, I could understand why.
There is also news on the Yankees minor league front and it may be something of interest.
The Yankees promoted OF Austin Jackson from Charleston to Tampa today and he is starting in CF, next to Tabata in RF.
This is interesting on a couple of fronts. Jackson was a kid who they drafted in the 10th round a few years ago. He was a first round talent and had a basketball scholarship to Georgia Tech. The Yankees gave him first round money and he gave up his scholly to GT and signed.
What’s interesting about this is, he has only been so so in Charleston. Unlike Tabata last year, he wasn’t tearing the cover off the ball.
This may be significant because the Yankees may have been asked by a team interested in Jackson to promote him and see how he does against better pitching.
I say this because he didn’t play well enough to merit the promotion.
It will be interesting to see how he does in Tampa and how that affects any trade talks between the Yankees and other teams.
In response to Pete’s 9:08 update:
I strongly disagree with the sentiment of “rather to lose with a `good-guy’ team” than “win with a `bad-guy’ team”.
I do *NOT* care. Just win, baby.
There are no asterisks in the record books for crappy teams that had “good” guys or champion teams full of SOBs.
Most of us fans have never met *ANYONE* who plays and have no idea if we would even really like the guy on a personal level–so how would we know, anyways?
I am a big fan of college football and this issue is raised all of the time.
team X cheats with recruiting…their players never go to class…they get improper benefits…blah, blah, blah.
I used to wait for the hammer to fall on these team X’s, but it *NEVER* happens. there is no justice, just winning and losing…and it is rarely fair.
if Torre was John McGraw, the Yankees would have bunted the hell out of 38pitches.com in game 6 `04 and things might have been different. people would have cried foul for a time, but then everyone forgets. 60 years from now, details are lost and people only remember the results. Just win, baby.
a significant element of luck is required to win a championship and luck is never fair.
Just win, baby.
Rocco, Proctor might validate your wishes late in the game if it’s close and we’re ahead.
Henn’s ok, could be a useful reliever in the future or starter on a bad team. A lefty with some life should have no problem keeping a job for a long time. Let’s not forget the centerpiece in the Abreu trade was a lefty named I believe Matt White and a few minor leaguers. Henn could be a useful piece in a Teixtera deal.
Jeff, Matt Smith and C.J. Hunter.
It’s too bad both Rasner and Karstens went down early, I thought they were being showcased.
CJ Henry, we’re both batting .500
Good team Jeff. :>)
See you guys later. GO BOMBERS!
Is Kei gonna be rockin his Oakleys tonight?
Totally off topic but the Mariners just had a really nice ceremony for Griffey presented him with gifts and all. I find it interesting that they love Griffey even though he asked for a trade to get out of town but they villify Arod cause he took the money and went to another team
At least they got something in return for Griffey……… I guess
my comment on Bradley is he is not a boy scout but Dukes is at another level of misbehavior but also obviously Dukes has more upside. I would pass on Dukes…
I thought Bradley made sense but he is not exactly Dimaggio so whatever.
Hey Pete — I think Wang seems really funny and you obviously have a good relationship with him. Could you consider him for your next blog-exclusive interview?
Peter, I’m flying up to the Bay tomorrow for Sunday’s game….Looking forward to seeing the old Pac-Bell now known as AT&T Park…….You staying at The Parc 55, or are out near SFO….
Nice 1,2 3 by kei. He’s not dancing around hitters this time. Maybe it’s because it’s the NL
DiceBB off to a good start.
Ricky Rios – Damon is not holding the Yanks hostage. Though Dukes might if we signed him!! I can see SWAT being called into Yankee Stadium now – all sparked by Kyle giving him a camouflage Tampa hat.
Brian,
I saw that. 32 pitches & bases loaded with 1 out. Cat’s got 9 lives. Escaped just giving up one run.
Is it my imagination or is Jon Miller hatin’ less on the Yankees? Maybe Morgan’s the one.
It’s nice to see Cain’s pitch count climbing early in the game. Yanks normally do well when they drive up the opposing pitcher’s pitch count.
On a separate note…Man, Matt Cain is 2-7 with only a 3.19 ERA…and there I though Andy P. had it bad! OUCH!!!
Way to battle, Igawa! Has Abreu been giving him lessons?!
I know Mel, walked the first 3 guys and only gave up one run. Gotta be happy. Took an inning out of his arm, but a small price after that start. Maybe bases loaded did him a favour cos nobody is running he doesn’t have to pitch out of the stretch.
hahaha walking the pitcher with two outs, unnacceptable.
Two out hits are a beautiful thing…
granted, i’m only watching on gameday, but that seemed like a VERY close ball 4 to igawa…
ball 4 wasn’t close, but ball 3 was.
Igawa is an offensive machine…Let him play first! HEHEHE!!!
Ball 4 was shoulder high. Kei’s got a pretty good eye. I’ve learned that gameday is not very accurate. If the umps really screw up a ball by calling it a strike, gameday will show it in the strike zone even when the replays over the plate show it 12 inches wide.
thanks mel. i’ll know not to shout at my computer then when the yanks seemingly get screwed on gameday’s borderline pitches!
Gameday just showed the first pitch to Molina as a ball, but right in the strike “box”! Either it was a really bad call by the ump, or you can’t trust Gameday at all.
Igawa looks like he knows what he’s doing at the plate, although in fairness, Cain has a pretty straightforwrad delivery and missed by quite a bit. Cano would have swung though, no doubt in my mind.
This question shows that I’m bored and should probably be doing something else with my time: do folks predominately use MLB’s gameday, ESPN, Fox News, Yahoo, or what to watch the Yanks’ games online?
Is Abreu cold again already? If so, that was a rather short “hot” streak he had…
I use MLB’s game day, I’ve noticed that it is about 1 minute ahead of ESPN’s.
I use MLB’s Gameday as well.
I subscribe to MLB TV. $20 a month. It’s good because you can watch the 10 minute condensed game if you missed the game during the day. You can also get audio if you can’t get enough of Suzie. Gameday is usually ahead of the video.
I have Gameday open right now but use CBS Sportsline a lot and am pleased with it. From my experience it seems that Sportsline is updated quicker than Gameday, just my experience though.
mel – How is the video quality? Herky-jerky or smooth?
slingbox
“Stathead supporters”….
Ahh, yes. A man sitting on an old horse makes jokes about cars.
Igawa is a K machine!
I’m very glad to read that Alex won’t participate in the homerun derby. He must have seen what happened to Bobby, and thought better of it.
SOMEONE THROW AT ROBERTS PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE
It helps to be facing the Giants lineup… But, yes, it’s nice to see him pitching well.
Chicago Dave,
A little of both. The condensed games are smooth.
Anyone watching the Toronto-Colorado game? What the hell happened? A walk-off three-run error for Toronto?
God, I hate Roberts…He was a pain in the butt when he played with Boston, and he’s still a pain!!! Drill him in the knee already!
Cumberberg – A bloop hit over shortstop scored two, then the third scored when the catcher overthrew the third baseman (as I guy scampered over to third while the other two guys were scoring).
P.S. – I know I shouldn’t root for the Jays, but, man, I’d love to see them sweep Colorado right now, wouldn’t you?
Chicago Dave –
Amen to that. The way he leans off first annoys the hell outta me. Still think Posada had him in that steal when he was with Boston. Kinda like Yogi who still believes he had Jackie Robinson at home in the WS.
Thanks Chicago Dave. Wish the Rockies had made an error like that when they were playing us…
ive never had a problem on the occasions ive been forced to view games on MLBTV. The 700k feed is really crisp(for a computer) but i think success depends highly on internet speed.
Please, people.
Comparing Abreu and A-Rod and their power stroke is ridiculous and embarrassing.
A-Rod is leading MLB with 27 dingers, already has almost 500 homeruns in his career, and will likely be the eventual homerun king once his career his over.
He’s NOT going to lose it simply because he participates in a HR derby.
Have some common sense.
ummm what happened to the YES video feed?
Dunno, I think I’d feel better about being swept by Colorado if they went out and kicked everyone’s a$$ for a while.
Mithrandir – Then again, we hate him because he’s actually a good player. I mean, I’d kill to have him coming off our bench this year!
Okay, either the director just had a heart attack, or YES only has one working camera. Cano Cam!
i love the YES Network
Cano cam is kind of lame.
Cumberberg – Well, if they were playing Boston right now, then, yes, I’d totally want them to keep winning!
wow, we have a player who can lay down a bunt when needed. hello pinch hitter Kei Igawa!
It’s Cano-cam.
Melky already got his one big hit for this game…That’s about his limit.
Come on, Kei, don’t start going south on us now!
not that any of us would have seen the hit if he had gotten it
Umm…
Is Gameday horribly off or is it the ump?
‘Cause that’s the second ball called against Igawa in the strike zone.
Please sit down Mr. Bonds.
And… Kei struck out Bonds. Good to see!
when did Igawa grow some nuts? Facing down Bonds? bravo
Nice recovery! Maybe Igawa really is a changed pitcher!!
Looked like Barry was about 4 mph behind that strike 3 89 mph heater
I think we have already had the game day discussion on where it shows balls and strikes. It’s not accurate.
HEHE Posada was calling for the ball low and away and Igawa threw it up and in and still struck Bonds out. He missed on all 3 of those pitches.
“when did Igawa grow some nuts?”
Actually, I think Igawa has always had a chip on his shoulder. Remember that awful game he pitched against the Mariners? Afterward he had the gall (or “stones”) to say he didn’t pitch badly.
I can accept the fact that Gameday is inaccurate. But then someone actually watching the game on TV needs to tell us when we should get pissed off at a bad call!
I don’t know if “Cano Cam” is good enough to help the people actually watching the game to tell balls from strikes. HA!!!
ok well it goes both ways, Jeter should have been struck out two pitches ago. Break for the good guys.
Lucky thing that couple is not in Chicago, the White Sox announcers would be saying something like, “Now why’s he goan to go and marry one of the bad guys?”
Boston takes the lead in San Diego 2-1 going into the bottom of the 4th inning.
I know a lot of folks were pissed off at Igawa and did not want to see him come back. I was certainly frustrated by his inconsistency. But when he stepped in to pitch that game against Boston, I think he showed that he has that mental toughness.
Ha, the Royals called off the deal for the Game, uh I mean Milton Bradley. He suffered any oblique injury in his last game.
that was a shot for being in SF…hehe…didnt even make it out
I like this Yankee team a lot better than that crappy one in Colorado.
Looks like the suitcase with the Yankee bats was sent straight from the Bronx to SF.
Boston takes the lead 2-1 in San Diego.
Nice base hits tonight with scores. Igawa not looking bad at all.
Cain with 98 pitches thru 5 innings. Does SF have a good bullpen?
Dice-BB at 90+ pitches through 4 1/3.
Glad Cain is up now… Iggy has to be able to get the pitcher out!
Now, now. Let’s be fair to Matsuzaka. He has seven strikeouts, but only five walks!
Very strange on yes, heard the crack of the bat before it swung.
haha, Pads should have blown it open in the 1st.
Kei seems to be losing it here…
Yep, he needs to pull it together.
Wow they aren’t kidding when they say the pen was an after thought. They don’t have much room to warm up!
Walks the guy ahead of bonds!!
Oh crap. Do the Yanks have anyone warming up?
Look at these idiots cheering for Bonds. What a disgrace.
Gil Renard-Bobby Rayburn
Robin Williams-Ray Durham
Kei is all over the place right now!
Kei gets out of this and we’ll take the game.
Nice…Bases chucked for Bonds! Grand slam here we come!!
ARGGGHHHHH….meltdown
Scott and Luis.
Or a bases-loaded walk…
Whoa where was that pitch?? That wasn’t too high.
Is it me or has the strike zone gone from small to large and back to small again???
Get Kei out of there!! He has no control right now. But now a reliever has to come into a huge mess.
good thing he can handle the pressure. Pull it together lad.
I guess its better than a granny
Igawa just wanted to give us a some drama!!!!
Oh great Vizciano in.
OK, Kei still needs some work…back to Scranton!
Is Torre serious?
I would have given kei one more batter. Damn, Igawa’s whole outing will be judged on who this batter VizK is facing. A hit and it’s 4ER’s in in 4 2/3, terrible. An out and it’s 2 ER’s, effective.
Jennifer
Vizciano has been good lately.
That was a promising start. That long top half of the inning must’ve thrown him off. Come on Luis.
I’m not ready to give up on Kei. He’s had one bad inning.
Viz is gonna put Molina in his place
They call that a bullpen? That is pathetic.
Well, it was nice for 4 innings…But Igawa needs to be able to work further into a game than that.
He isn’t goin back to Scranton. He really didn’t pitch terribly. It certainly wasn’t great but it wasn’t terrible either. Who else would they use in the No. 5 spot? Just my opinion though.
Miracle play by Matsui! Wow, that was awesome
Oh Jesus, I almost had a heart attack.
MATSUI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Breaks going our way!!!
Whew
nice play by Matsui… looks like someone threw a cup at him
Anyone notice that a fan threw a cup at Matsui as he was catching it?!
NICE CATCH HIDEKI!
Godzilla, nice grab…..Dodeg a major bullet
Igawa is here to stay until Phil Fracture comes back.
What was Sterling’s call on that drive?
Hanging slider saved only by the cool night air and Matsui’s leather.
GODZILLA!!!
Rocco he got very lucky on that one. I know he’s done well lately, he just scares me.
I would have liked to see Joe let Kei pitch one more batter and give him a chance to get a win.
1. Kei Igawa- It’s been said 100 billion times but Cashmoney, what were you thinking?
2. Luis Vizcaino is just simply not good. Chris “Great” Britton is better.
3. Hideki Matsui
*******GOLD GLOVE*******
Could Kay be overhyping Bonds any more?
Jeff NJ – Im not sure how anyone could call that outing effective. yes they only scored 2 ER but he didnt even make it 5 innings. The best that can be said is that it wasnt a disaster. Im not ready to give up on Igawa yet but this was certainly not an effective outing unless you have drastically lowered the bar for “effective”.
They threw a cup at him???? Who the hell does that????
Well folks, you just saw what Kei Igawa is made of: NOTHING.
What a gutless turd. He’s a $46M bust who can’t even give 5 IP against one of the worst lineups in baseball in the N.L. park
so no DH.
The best thing the Yanks could do after this year is trade Igawa’s remaining $16M across the next 4 years ($4M/yr.) to some N.L. team who thinks he could fare better in the league with no DH and a weaker 7-8-9 batting order moreover on a team with much less pressure placed on him. Send him to the Cubs. I’m sure there’s one tea, out there who’d think they’d be stealing Igawa from them.
Boston fans throw cups… and pizza.
Well, didn’t Yankees fans throw batteries at someone once upon a time…Wasn’t it Canseco?
the cup looks like it was thrown after he caught it… still thats terrible.
Igawa had a good start and fell apart in the 5th. I’m still worried about him because this is the Giants who aren’t a good hitting team.
No no, Phillies fans throw batteries.
Again, Igawa looked great for four innings, then he lost it and couldn’t get it back again. And it’s not like he was facing a good hitting team…I mean, come on, if there was ever a rope-a-dope lineup, it’s the Giants! If we had someone even marginally better (too bad Clippard couldn’t get his stuff together, either), I’d definitely be sending Igawa down. However, I guess we’re stuck with him right now…
Trade for Lieber!
Very nice the fans are booing the poor guy. He got hit very hard on his leg and they have the never to boo. Well what do you expect from a fan base that that cheers Bonds.
A baseball once hit Canseco in the head…..wasn’t from a fan though.
looks like damon will get his chance to prance in the outfield tonight
I think it’s a little unfair to judge Kei harshly. He very well could have gotten that out, Torre arguably pulled him too soon. Oh well, we’ll never know. I haven’t heard the rotation for next week, joe could keep them in rotation or push Igawa back. I have tickets for next Friday, so I’m very interested.
**Nerve**
Pete please fet us a edit button.
HAHA Melk man deliverys a triple.
Is there anything better right now then Melky rounding 2nd?
Has the Strike zone moved? This ump looks terrible.
Ah, Jetes makes ‘em pay! Fantastic!!!
Maybe melky will stay back on the ball now that his shin will be bruised.
Whats with Jeter lately? damn
Can Jeter get his head out of his butt. Two days in a row with base running mistakes!! where was he going?
Jeff NJ – Igawa had completely lost the strike zone. There was no way he was going to wriggle out of that inning (unless a Giants hitter did him a big favor by swinging at pitches way out of the zone…which, theoretically, could have happened, I guess).
has anyone else lose the MLB.COM FEED ???
RE-SIGN CAIRO NOW!!!!
Pete at least you actually are seeing people on the SF feed. The YES broadcast has decided that we need to see McCovey Cove 7 times, the Bay Bridge at least 3 times, The Left field bleacher seats 4 times and Cano Cam for 1/3 of an inning.
Igawa showed some good stuff tonight I wonder if Patterson will stick around and work with him in between starts to see if he can be a little more consistent with runners on base
Jeff NJ – I am usually a critic of torres handling of the pen but Igawa had totally lost the zone and keeping him in their was asking for a loss. I think they should give him another shot in the rotation for another turn but you are way to optimistic about him based on that start. You cannot walk a guy ahead of Bonds in that spot.
They’ve also decided to show us, a strange behind the plate angle to watch the pitch come in.
they are just missing Whoopi Goldberg
Every team ahead of us in the wildcard lost today. Now it is Cleveland who is the WC leader. It is better fighting against Cleveland instead of Detroit becuase of pitching. If we win today, we will be out by 5 games in the loss column. Not bad after the sweep in Colorado.
Dave, probably true, but I think he deserves a couple more starts to find his way again. I think he’s servicable for a 5th starter.
Remember last year’s 5th starter? We didn’t really have one until we picked up Lidle July 31st. And the 4th starter was Jaret Wright. And that team ran away with the division.
where are all the Josh Phelps lovers, whose wants phelps back ???
over-managing time. Vizk was doing fine.
BBFan — Wildcard? Don’t give up on the Division.
Don’t you listen to Kay? The division is mathmatically impossible!
Jeff NJ – Needless to say, last year was last year. Having a weak back of the rotation is simply not going to cut it this year. However, it is true (as I said before) that the Yanks don’t really have any better options right now, so I think they do have to give Igawa another start. If he blows up in his next start, though, I wouldn’t given him another beyond that. The Yanks need the wins too bad to let Igawa be a work-in-progress on the mound for the rest of the year.
Can our left handed specialist get out a lefty?
Look, Phelps seems like a nice kid and I hope he has a long productive career. He just wasn’t a good fit on the team right now (assuming Damon doens’t get DL’d).
Truth about Damon is they should avoid playing him at all this weekend, not even pinch hit, that way they could retroactively DL him for Tuesday if he’s not close to 100%.
NO, I am not giving up on the division. Let us bag the WC, guarantee playoffs and then go after Boston for the Division.
I think Myers must have an appearance-based incentive in his contract, and he has struck a deal with Torre (for a cut of some of that incentive money) to help him make it.
Torre didn’t pull him too soon. He couldn’t throw the ball over the plate.
Remember, in his last start, he blew a 5 run lead to the Mariners. You can’t give him the chance to blow a 5 run lead again by having him pitch to a RH hitter (Molina) who is hitting over .400 with 2 outs and RISP.
Igawa is what he is. A non-strikethrower who they wasted 46 million dollars on as the “panic answer” to Sox signing Dice-K.
The Giants are an AWFUL offensive team and he was ready to spit up a 5 run lead.
As another poster said, for better or worse (probably worse), he is the 5th starter until Hughes is back.
Just gotta live with this nonsense. What’s tough is, when he faces AL lineups again, he is going to get smacked around because his stuff isn’t major league quality.
Whomever recommended this signing to the Yankees should be banished to scout Siberian shortstops. Just an awful, awful signing.
Damon played Thursday.
it’s hard to focus on the division when you play in the division with the team with the best record in baseball that just has not really slowed down. Let’s just win series, get in wildcard position and see where we end up. Focusing on the division is a mental burden at this point.
ARod putting on a show for his future team.
“What’s tough is, when he faces AL lineups again, he is going to get smacked around because his stuff isn’t major league quality.”
I completely agree…Igawa’s next start again even a mediocre AL lineup is likely to be a disaster. He’s got Glavine-like stuff without Glavine’s control, poise and guile. Of course, those last three things are the reason Glavine has been a bona fide major league pitcher for so long! Igawa, not so much…
Give Igawa a couple more starts before writing him off. He just had one bad inning. He looked good in the other innings. Regarding his stuff, he throws 91, misses bats and has a good change up. Even in the fifth inning he was mostly missing with the ball low, which is what he is adjusting to right now based on what they asked him to do.
BBFan – Again, he looked good AGAINST THE GIANTS. The quality of the competition really needs to be taken into account when evaluating Igawa’s performance tonight…
For the record, we’ve also seen him look great against Boston.
It’s probably a little early to make judgements about Igawa 2.0 — or the Yankee scouts — after one performance. True, he’s underperformed thus far. But let’s see if he’s able to turn it around.
Cumberberg – I think the phrase “every dog has its day” applies to Igawa’s game against Boston…
We should not be evaluating based on one start. He very well could build on those four good innings.
Holy crap, how many relievers does it take to satisfy Torre?!
Can someone explain this to me? The yanks have a 4 run lead with 1 out and no one on in the 7th and yet Torre feels the need to bring in the 3rd reliever of the game? Does he get some type of bonus based on the amount of times he hooks a pitcher. This is part of the reason why our pen gets so overworked. Just let myers finish the inning or at least wait until he allows a baserunner. He is just so awful at handling the pen.
Chicago Dave — Point taken. I do prefer “even a broken watch is right twice a day”!
You know what, it’s not Kei’s fault he was playing against San Fran tonight. And lets not forget he handled the soon to be all time HR champ in a park he and the team have never played in. It wasn’t all bad. He’s ok, he’s not great, but he’s the best option at 5th starter right now, so cut him a little slack.
Wang’s recent performances obviously have Joe believing he’s going to go at least 8 innings tomorrow. Otherwise, there’s no excuse for using the bullpen this extensively tonight.
Yeah, Arod is going to go to the Giants.
That ballpark takes away about 120 home runs in 8 years for him and he goes to a very bad ballclub.
Sometimes, folks need to stop listening to sportscenter and think for a moment.
Do you think Arod and Scott Boras, both pretty smart guys, are going to throw his career away in SF when he can go to Anaheim or stay in NY, two ballparks he RAKES in, and win, to go along with setting the HR record.
There is no chance Arod goes to SF.
Dave – I hope Joe isnt now penciling in Wang for 8 each time because that is beyond dumb but its Joe so thats probably the case.
Jeff – Check out Bonds numbers over the last month or so. Hes not exactly lighting it up.
Sh….. Do not criticise Joe. Whatever he does, he earned the right to do it!!!!!!!
Im waiting for Joe just to bring in random fans to pitch or maybe to have Proctor put on Bobby V’s disguise so he can bring him in twice a game.
Jeff NJ – Igawa got a 5-yr, $20MM contract, and then the luxury of going down to the minors for a bunch of starts to figure out how to pitch. I’d say he’s had quite a bit of “slack” already, wouldn’t you?
8th = Farnsworth
9th = MO
I will say again what I said last night no matter what the score we need to see Mo in this game. He has not pitched since Saturday and we saw what long rest does for him.
If home run record is all that matters, A-Rod will go to Wrigley. He will also break Bonds’ single season record in that park.
CAIRO BLOWS! WE NEED AN ALL STAR AT EVERY POSITION!
lay it down Scotty.
Pete,
There’s your East Coast bias. I’ll give you DeNiro & Pacino, but San Francisco is a lot closer to Hollywood than it is the Jersey shore & London.
I’d like to ask members of the recently disbanded Josh Phelps Fan Club to join the Miguel Cairo Fan Club.
It isn’t evaluating him after one performance. Its seeing his entire body of work since he got to NY.
This was an improvement from his other starts and he still couldn’t get through the 5th inning against the worst offensive team in the league.
He isn’t any good. Just because they spent a ton of money on him isn’t going to give him plus stuff.
He doesn’t throw 91 consistently. One pitch or two that hit 91 isn’t “throwing 91″. He throws 88-89 on most of his fastballs.
His velocity is not the issue. He is a high ball pitcher in a lowball league.
He is what he is. He’s the 5th starter until Hughes is healthy and they are going to have to score 8-10 runs in his starts, and will need 4-5 relief pitchers, to finish his games.
Unfortunately, if they didn’t ignore the draft from 2001-2004, they would have somebody in AAA capable of being the 5th starter.
Next year, it will be less of a problem with all those Trenton arms in Scranton.
This year? Gotta hope Hughes heals soon or this offense finds its mojo on Igawa’s start days.
Jeff – while I do agree that Igawa is probably our best option for the 5 spot right now, he is far from ok. his era is about 7 and after i think 6 minor league starts he still is incapable of going 5 innings vs probably the worst hitting team in baseball.
And we do need mo in the 9th. i just wish they had stretched out myers instead of using proctor. but what would a yankee game be without joe trying to see if he can make proctors arm fall off.
I believe that ballpark in the New England area has a short left field porch. FYI.
Vinnie Chulk…Sounds like a Sopranos character, doesn’t it?!
well said helno51
Sounds like a Blue Jay.
a clinic in bad baseball immediately after that leadoff 2B.
we have had some awful moments on the bases this year.
For 4 games, I have never seen a team be this incompetent running the bases. Its unreal.
I don’t blame Torre for finally calling out guys by name yesterday.
71 games into the season, you gotta be smarter than that.
Jeter coming up, there is no reason for Cairo, a veteran no less, to try and score on that play.
Its all the little things that has held this team back all year. Horrible baserunning, lack of strikethrowers, lack of situational hitting on a consistent basis.
They do the little horribly and that’s why they are fighting to be a .500 team instead of a playoff team at the present time.
Jeff NJ – Yeah, I was surprised to see him pop up on Gameday…I thought he was still with the Jays! I thought I remember him pitching OK for the Jays…wonder why they let him go? (Or maybe he was crap and I’m just remembering that he pitched OK against the Yanks!)
Im glad kay just told us that same mantle 40-40 story for about the 100th time.
HaHa, they called that guy a “ball dude”.
did anyone not expect that.. i know its bonds.. but i think proctor gives that hr up to just about anybody
At least now it could be a save situation for Mo.
Ugh… Barry HR…
Anyone else excited about Wang pitching tomorrow?
Nice job Scottie. Now you’re part of history.
How excited did Kay get?
Proctor logs another stat, even though he def went right at him.
SJ44,
In general I like your posts, but some times you go overboard with yur citicism of the players. What you are doing with Igawa is exactly what you did with Vizcaino when he was going bad.
Let us wait for couple more starts and then judge him. He is trying to execute what he was taught, i.e, to keep the ball low. Some walks in that fifth inning were because of that reason, not becuase he was overly wild. Also, are you watching the same game we are all watching? He was consistently hitting 91, not just once or twice.
Nothing has disgusted me more recently than having to watch Bonds just now hitting another homer.
SJ44,
You’re right about the draft, but to be fair, the Yankees had two pitchers who realistically were decent options to be a number 5 starter in Karstens and Rasner and both got hurt.
Remember how Kay used to always describe each team’s uniform before every game he did on radio? I always thought that was idiotic… We KNOW what the uniforms look like, Mike! It’s surprising that him and Sterling have managed to stick around this long… Guess no one else would have them, eh? HA!!
ok so now does Igawa get credit for getting out Bonds?
Oooh, Evan Almighty was pretty bad also… but this hurts more.
Would die to see Proctor throw one at his knee/calf next time he faces Bonds. Can’t stand that pose after he hits a home run.
I have watched the whole game on YES and based on their gun, which I admit is sometimes off the wall, Igawa was not hitting 91 consistently. It was mostly high 80’s
Oh, Scott, come on… You could have just walked the ‘roid king instead!
I say bring in Mo now…I get so tired of seeing Proctor suck!!!
i almost would have wanted Farnsworth to go against Bonds just to see the heat/power matchup….especially if it was just gonna end up in HR. That would be Kyle’s M.O.
Here comes Joe. Good thing he had to get Proctor in there so early in the game. Now we get a 5 out performance from Mo. I mean just terrible.
Mo for 5 outs. Torre c’mon man, you’re making criticism too easy tonight.
Somehow I had it in my head that, if Bonds was going to hit a HR, that it should be off of Farnsworth. That way, even though I hate Bonds, I could at least have a little bit of joy…
Oh no no no no no no no no! No Mo right now!
The Yes gun is a fast gun. I don’t buy his speed one bit.
Guys aren’t reacting at the plate as if his fastball has juice to it.
How many more Igawa starts do we need to evaluate him? He is what he is. He’s playing a bad team, fell apart and they have to blow out the bullpen just to try and win a game in which they had a 5 run lead.
At this point, they don’t have any choice but to use him because there is no one. However, let’s not kid ourselves. You don’t want to have to blow out your bullpen in a game like this to start a series.
He isn’t any good. Would love to be wrong about him, and if I am, I will GLADLY eat my words. But, tonight didn’t show me anything that makes me think he is “fixed”.
The true test will be when he faces AL lineups. Then, we shall see.
I have to say I’m happy Joe made the move on this occasion…Proctor makes me sick to my stomach!
I love how Joe always tries to put on the calm demeanor but then usually panics and rushes Mo into these games so early because he trusts no one else in his pen.
Nice Igawa first time pitching to Bonds No homer.
Veteran Proctor gives up a homer to Bonds. Bonds probably will send Proctor a gift basket for that one.
SJ44, there is another option and that’s to get a pitcher via trade. I’m wondering when that panic button is going to get pushed.
In the meantime…Boston is about to beat San Diego, the best team in the NL, 2-1. I hate to say it, but it looks like Dice-K was well worth the money (unlike our crappy import from the Land of the Rising Sun).
Dave – Proctor makes me sick at times too but this all goes back to his pulling myers with 1 out and none on in the 7th. myers needed to finish that out so proctor could get thru the 8th. but Joe was probably nervous he wouldnt be able to get proctor in so he had to rush him out there.
He has to bring in Mo now. He hasn’t pitched all week.
Let’s be honest, you trust anybody else in that bullpen to throw strikes and get outs? I don’t.
Mo for 5 guys and if they lose, they lose.
You can’t risk blowing this game.
Will Brian Bruney ever get to pitch in a late inning situation when we have a small lead?
Remember the days when we actually had a reliable bullpen? Seems to be such a distant memory now…
Dice-K was not good tonight. 6 innings, 6 hits, 6 walks. It shows how bad the offenses are in the NL.
I have been watching that game and the Padres are a worse offensive team than the Giants.
I will be interested to see Dice-K against AL lineups the rest of the year. He’s not a 100 million dollar pitcher and I think he is going to get hit around by AL lineups, which he has been this year, in the second half of the season.
He lucked out tonight. He didn’t pitch well.
Bruney will not pitch in the late innings until he stops giving walks or Joe is not the manager.
Just don’t ever say Quan-Go-Mo.
Is this a save situation for Rivera?
Bruney pitched yesterday in a close game. You can’t pitch these guys every day.
Have you seen Bruney pitch in close games? He walks as many guys as everybody else.
Proctor did the right thing with Bonds. Its better to give up a solo HR than a leadoff walk. One run doesn’t beat you in that situation. Leadoff walks start rallies.
This gets back to Igawa. If you have a 5 run lead in the 5th, your starter has to at least get you thru 6. He couldn’t do it and they had to blow out the ‘pen to try and win this game.
Yes, it is a save situation.
Im pretty sure he wont pitch there until Joe is gone.
BBFan- I agree that Toree hates bruney, and he does walk people but he uses Farnsworth and he never has a 1 2 3 inning.
The bullpen’s been doing well lately. What was the consecutive innings without the bullpen giving up a homerun?
Matsusaka may not be worth 100 Million but one thing I know for sure, I’d rather have him and his extra 44 million over Kei Igawa any day of the week.
My god what a monumental blunder by Cashman.
im watching the Giants feed as well Pete and I cannot believe how many times they’ve showed Crystal and Williams. It’s borderline uncomfortable seeing this many cuts to washed up comedians. Either the producer has a man-crush or they paid the Giants broadcast and are promoting a new movie.
Yanks have dropped a lot of balls in that right-center valley. Hopefully we can carry this theme into the weekend.
Damnit…vizquel flashes his mean leather my entire childhood. Though i was done with that.
“He lucked out tonight. He didn’t pitch well.”
SJ44 – If you were watching, you saw that he was actually able to bear down when it really mattered. Twice he got key strikeouts with ducks on the pond. Outside of Pettitte and Wang, I don’t see any Yankee pitchers with that sort of ability to bear down and get the job done in crucial situations.
ps…Is Arod gonna make a 100 rbi push by the break?
Yeah Global Warming
Cashman is at fault b/c the RedSox threw down $51 million just to talk to Matsuzaka. If you want a fortune teller go to the boardwalk, if you want a general manager come back to Earth.
can the yankees sign bob uecker to an announcing contract?
I think we have to have faith that Clemens is going to be able to bear down and get out of jams as the year goes along.
Nice play by Jetes and Alex bringing him home. Isn’t Crystal a good friend of Jeters? Maybe Jeter gave him tix as his guest.
Bear down? He’s playing the Padres. They can’t hit.
He threw three BAD fastballs in the middle of the plate to Mike Cameron, with the bases loaded and 0 outs in the first inning, and Cameron missed all three.
Good pitching or bad hitting? In the AL, those fastballs in the middle of the plate get hit.
Let’s see a full season of Dice-K, then we will know for sure.
Take his starts out against SF, SD and AZ, three BAD hitting teams, and his numbers against the AL aren’t good.
There is no doubt he is better than Igawa. But, nobody has ever put the two in the same sentence.
sj44- If you can’t pitch these guys every day maybe you should tell Joe not to use proctor every day.
On this Crystal and Williams being at the game thing, I dont have any idea who Williams likes or not but is this one of those things where he is there because he has a movie coming out in a week or so?
TJ
Crystal is supposedly close with Torre. I don’t see Jeter drinking mojitos with Crystal and Jessica Biel.
GuidryBall,
What are you babbling about? I’m talking about the knee-jerk signing of Kei Igawa for 46 Million over 4.
Use your head.
helno51 – Well, first Clemens has to make it past spring training mode. If he doesn’t get his “legs under him” (as he has been talking about lately), then he will have great difficulty being that shutdown-type pitcher again.
sox win 2-1 again?
Its hopeless for us
we suck.
Almost relieved to see Matsui hit into the double play. I was getting nervous that I was going to have to see a Rivera at bat.
Dave – You were talking about guys bearing down, not a shutdown type pitcher. I mean Dicek did allow 10 runners in 6 innings. My point is that clemens has shown the ability in the past to gut thru games when he is not at his best and im fairly confident he will do it again this year too.
Another Matsui DP
Classy move by San Fran stadium playing Enter Sandman!
Rough night for Hideki at the plate…But that play he made in left saved the game (so far, at least!)!!
Williams is a SF resident and is cheering for the Giants.
What did Proctor do wrong tonight? You have to pitch to Bonds in that situation.
Please, enough with the Bruney stuff. He’s another guy who can’t throw strikes.
We lionize every guy Torre doesn’t bring in every night and when he does, they pitch in bad counts and walk the ballpark.
The right move was Proctor and he got the ball to Mo. They have a 4 run 9th inning lead. If Mo can’t hold that against this team, that’s on Mo, not Torre.
helno51 – Well, I was using different terms to explain the same thing. However, I agree with the point you made, regardless.
Robin Williams isnt even that funny.
Neither is Billy Crystal.
Proctor blows… ‘Nuff said.
Alright I’ll use my head and tell you to reread your own post, b/c if that’s what your point was, it was about as clear as a Farnsworth 8th inning.
I read Crystal was Jeters celebrity guest at his Foundation function a week ago and I read somewhere he and Jeter were friends. By the way Jessica Biel is drinking with Justin Timberlake now. I think that Biel/Jeter thing was over as soon as it started.
Am I crazy to hope someone reaches? I’d love to see Mo strike out Bonds.
Does any one think that Joe Girardi rejected Baltimore offer with the hope that he may get Yankee job if Torre is not invited back?
Matsui was the #1 webgem tonight on Baseball tonight
good win
hey myrtle,
another SC fan(im a temp). Good to know im not alone in enemy territory.
ps..both WERE funny.
By the way, ESPN keeps showing highlights of the big ceremony Seattle threw today in honor of Ken Griffey. Would Griffey mean that much to Seattle if it wasn’t for that infamous (for Yankee fans) comeback victory in the ‘95 playoffs against the Yanks? I don’t think so…
Still, I’ll always remember that series for that extra-inning game at the Stadium when Mariano held down Seattle until Leyritz hit the homer that won the game. It was the beginning of the Mariano legend…
Thank god for the Giants.
Nice to see an easy win for the Yankees and Mo. Only 19 pitches for Mo, he’ll be fine to go tomorrow. Congrats to Torre and tying Leo Durocher for 9th place on the managerial win list.
SJ44 – bringing in proctor when they did was certainly not the right move unless you thought myers was going to give up the game with a 4 run lead, 1 out and no one on. myers should have finished off the 7th, then proctor in the 8th. no one is killing him for the homer to bonds. its the fact that he should have been brought in later so Mo didnt have to go 5 outs.
And Torre had no problems bringing in Luis all the time when he was walking everyone. I was at a game in the middle of his slump where torre brought him in with the bases loaded and he promptly walked the first guy in. so Joe is ok with bringing in guys who really do walk the ballpark.
Finally a win. It’s so good to say the word ‘win” again. Jeter had a good game tonight
The bottomline is Yanks won today a game started by Igawa and they gave up a total of 3 runs for the whole game.
Let us hope Igawa does better in the next start.
I know the Biel and Jeter deal is over, just using it as an example TJ.. But b/c Crystal has Jetes at a banquet doesn’t mean much. I can’t really see a 60 yr old washed up comedian and the King of NY painting the town red
BBFan, I was wondering about Joe not taking the job either. Cashman may have told him, he is definitively the next manager without setting a date. I would wait for the Yankees job if it was that close.
In the end Im just glad we won. I just wish we could make these types of games easier on the pen. But a win is a win and Wang tomorrow.
The Yankees do great against sub .500 teams who are struggling.
Sorry, but it’s true.
Giants are a horrible team this year. Of course the Yankees are going to win this game.
Yankees aren’t doing too well against .500+ teams.
ss… stfu
Finally saw the Bonds homerun on ESPN. Man, that thing was weak! Whereas Bonds used to hit moonshots, he now is lucky to make the first row of seats beyond the fence. Someone must have screwed with his “spinach”!! He has some gall to make such a big show of watching a weak-ass popfly like that go out…
Another important thing. With the win tonight, Yanks did not fall below .500, which would have been somewhat demoralising.
Marius – You make a good point. Combine that with their horrible record in close games (6-21, or whatever it’s up to now!) and it is hard to see how this team could make the playoffs. Still, we should enjoy a win, regardless!
Chicago Dave
the Bonds homerun was crushed, I don’t know what replay you saw. That’s a long ways to rightcenter. I agree his power has dwindled to what it was when there were ‘roids behind his bat, but tonight’s homer was laserbeam.
Wang better have yet enough 8+ inning performance tomorrow. If not, we’ll be seeing Bruney and Farnsworth. Was it really necessary for Joe to use so many guys tonight?
Wang better have yet another 8+ inning performance in him tomorrow. If not, we’ll be seeing Bruney and Farnsworth. Was it really necessary for Joe to use so many guys out of the bullpen tonight?
Sorry about the double-post!
GuidryBall – I saw a low linedrive that barely cleared the wall and went into the first row. Personally, I wasn’t impressed… but everyone has a right to his/her opinion, of course!
C Dave, I love every win they get.
Just wanted to point out the obvious that isn’t mentioned all that much about the Yankees.
Good point about the close games. Also something very telling about that.
Yankees are on the edge of having a winning team. A decent 1st baseman who can hit would do it and would fill a huge hole.
Damon getting healthy would also be very helpful. I don’t see it as it’s one thing after another. Something ain’t right with that boy and I wonder if his past amphetamine use is coming back to haunt him now or if he was always like this and the greenies took care of it enough so he could play.
ASB can’t come quick enough. Trades need to be made.
Is Zito hurt or is he pitching this weekend? He’s been pretty quiet lately.
I look forward to seeing Wang on the mound. This guy has been having a pretty good season so far and he’s been pretty amazing to watch.
You know, watching the post game, Kay was just saying how uncomfortable everyone was in Denver. I was there in Feb and had a lot of trouble breathing myself. I don’t know if 97 degree heat makes it much worse, but you had to figure it did. Gives the Rockies a nice home field advantage and the Yankees a good excuse. Now it’s time to do some damage in the 6 games with SF and Bal.
C Dave, the center field is huge. It looks a lot smaller than it is. If that was hit in Yankee stadium, it would have been in the black seats or really right next to them. Took power to hit it that far.
Bonds has power and you need power to hit a HR in that park. It’s a pitchers park.
Marius – Yeah, Damon is starting to look a lot like Giambi…A body breaking down before our eyes, and a ballplayer who is a shadow of his former self performance-wise.
OK, I’ll give Bonds the homerun…But he’s still a complete jackass for the way he poses after he hits ‘em.
C Dave, Yep a total jackass for that and so many other things and steroids has nothing to do with my opinion of him either.
Yep, just what I was thinking today about Damon. He admitted to using amphetamines constantly, so you have to wonder what else he took or if that was enough. Drugs are bad…
Totally off topic.
Honestly, I think Proctor gave him that pitch so he could be part of the Bonds HR legend. Proctor likes to make himself be known, if you haven’t noticed. Smart kid.
points. Mariano threw 20 pitches and before tonight did not pitch in 5 days. he can go saturday if he has to.
there pen is not blown out, bruney did not pitch nor farnsworth. relax…
the starters are going longer then early in the yr. and the pen is not really being overused.
matsuzaka throws a ton of pitches 120+ again Francona is going to blow out his arm.. Boston and SD can pitch but SD cannot hit, look at there lineup it is bad….
they need Damon to get healthy or put him on the Dl, but please god get him healthy they do not need cairo and phillips bats both in the lineup..
arod had a great game. Proctor did not do anything wrong I will take a solo jack over a walk late in a game when up by 4 runs every time, walks kill you not solo jacks…
Hmmm… Basak’s still on this team? Seems like a waste of roster spot to me at this point. I mean, shouldnt he play once in a blue moon?
A comment with regards to the 12:06 a.m. update: I was stunned when the Yankees spent so much on Igawa. He was a steady pitcher with some promise in his early years with Hanshin, had a few very good seasons mostly thanks to a great lineup behind him, but nothing overwhelming, and the last few years he has had lots of problems with control and motivation. Definitely not a stud like Matsuzaka (who’s pitching load is light as compared to when he was in Japan, so I think worries expressed above about Francona blowing out his arm are miscontrued: America babies its pitchers too much!! Blow out the glass arms in high school/college and in the minors and get on with it) or a thinking pitcher like Okajima or Kuwata (Nomo for that matter). Nice guy, who might thrive, relatively speaking, in a place like Kansas City, but a Yankee? I hope I’m proved wrong having always been a fan of his and of Hanshin, but pinning this on the quality of Japanese hitters or Japanese baseball is absurd: to wit, all the snickers heard all over the baseball world here when the Yanks suckered themselves into believing Igawa was something everyone knew him not to be. I’m not sure who the Yankees have scouting over here, but it doesn’t reflect well on Cashman’s at all.
“mel
June 23rd, 2007 at 12:48 am
Pete,
There’s your East Coast bias. I’ll give you DeNiro & Pacino, but San Francisco is a lot closer to Hollywood than it is the Jersey shore & London.”
i know you’ll never read this, but i’m with you mel.
i actually thought springsteen fell off the map entirely until i started reading this blog.
i like williams and might lump him in with the others. but crystal, bleh. can we trade those 2?