Final thoughts from AT&T Park
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Podcast on Jun 23, 2007 
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A few things for you:
Bobby Abreu was bunting for a hit in the 11th inning because he was 2 for 18 against Steve Kline.
Joe Torre said he was not going to use Mariano Rivera for more than one inning today, so he was only coming in if they got the lead. Rivera had pitched 1.2 innings on Friday night. Here’s the dilemma: Overworking Rivera now could lead to what happened last September when he was shut down. It’s fairly obvious he had an elbow problem last season. You can’t manage to win one game on June 23.
Wang’s blister/fingernail problem resurfaced in the seventh inning and he was bleeding when he came out of the game.
Big effort by Scott Proctor, who allowed the winning single on the 86th pitch he had thrown in the last three days. After the game, in describing the chopper by Omar Vizquel, he said something that could get him in trouble. “I jumped as high as I could. If I wasn’t white, I might have had a chance of getting it,” he said.
Proctor was trying to be funny but some people may not take it that way. It will be interesting if that comment blows up on him. It could.
Derek Jeter has a hip flexor he suffered in the first inning. If he misses a game, it would only be one. He wants to play. The Yankees could start tomorrow with Miguel Cairo at shortstop and Andy Phillips at first and Wil Nieves catching. Jorge Posada could play first but Torre wants to give him a day off after catching 13 innings.
Here is some audio from Joe Torre:
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and Derek Jeter:
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If Proctor gets in trouble for making a stupid “White men can’t jump” joke you know the PC police is completely out of control.
There is a zero% chance that Abreu was bunting for a hit. Zero. He fouled off the first bunt attempt, and then bunted again. That was Torre sac bunt all the way. Plus, I saw Abreu walk all the way up the line to talk to Bowa and they both had devious eyes as they ran through what was going to happen. It was patently obvious from the 1st moment what was going to happen and it was called from the bench.
A guy who hits .300/.410/.500 for his career should NEVER bunt, even if it’s Pedro Martinez on the mound throwing hatchets.
Plus, stupid bullpen strategy. We’re not up 10 games. We’re down 10+ and we’ve lost 4 of 5. Use Mariano to get that last out with a lefty at the plate.
It’s the truth…he shouldn’t get in trouble.
Mike, don’t be ridiculous. Putting Rivera in for the last out would have been a horrible idea. What if we didn’t get the lead the next inning? The guy threw 1 2/3 last game, and now you want him to keep on going? He’s 37 years old, and we’re not even to the ASB yet.
Why was Melky so deep…poor coaching…
When you say people do you mean players or beat writers. Pc people are out of control.
Yaknow, when I hear comments like that, I always feel bad about being a white guy who could jump.
Please don’t turn me in for saying that, I don’t have union representation.
Carson, which is exactly why the Yankees need to seriously think about getting in a reliever that has closer potential to take the place of Mariano soon. Mariano is too fragile and now with his age, even more so.
Torre called some pretty bad things in this game. I can honestly say he lost it for the Yankees. Really poor choices and many of them.
I can’t say I have hope for this team as it stands now. Too many holes. If trades aren’t made, kiss the playoffs goodbye. This team can’t make the playoffs as they are right now. Add to that Damon’s constant injured self, just won’t happen. Reliever and 1st base and then there is a chance for the Wild card.
I won’t say the Yankees can’t win the division. In 2 weeks they cut the deficit by a 1/2. Sadly they brought it back up to 10+ shortly after. Just kinda shows you how quick it can go up and down.
Red Sox need to fall apart through and I don’t know if they will.
Whatever.. it’s fun to watch anyway. Cashman better be setting up a deal somewhere.
Forget Teixeira, he is on the DL and won’t be back till after the deadline.
But the Yankees did scout Gagne and Otsuka, so we may see one or both. Rangers scouted right back.
“ss stfu”,
We have quite a few prospects in the minors that could be auditioning for the closer role in a couple of years. As of now, I think it’d be fair to assume that we’re going to stick with Rivera at least for 2 more years.
In the meantime, let’s see how Kevin Whelan, Mark Melancon, JB Cox, David Robertson, and perhaps even Humberto Sanchez after he comes back. Of course, they’re all in A or AA ball right now, so might take a bit do develop. Let’s look to those guys before bringing in someone from another org.
If anyone makes a small deal (not even a big deal) about Proctor’s comment, they’ve got way too much time on their hands and take life way too seriously.
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How does a team hit 4 doubles, 1 triple, 1 homer and about 6 walks and only score 5 runs?!?!?!
Yanks have got to re-sign A-Rod. I don’t care if its $30M per for 7 years. Do it.
He cant get in trouble for that comment. No one gave the person who made the movie “White men cant jump” a hard time.
besides is Al Sharpton gonna have a rally outside of Yankee Stadium?
Anyone looked at the upcoming homestand?
3 against Oakland, 4 against Minn., and 3 against Anaheim before the break.
It’s gonna be tough to stay above .500 going into the ASB let alone making up any ground in the standings.
That game today was HUGE, and Torre blew it. That last winning streak probably saved his job for this year, but after this season it really is time for new leadership. We can’t be making the same mistakes over and over again. I think we all saw how this game was going to end as soon as we saw Proctor strolling up to the plate. That is unexcusable in my book.
Mo was gonna pitch today with the lead right? So he could throw an inning today at least right? At some point you have to give up on saving him for a save chance and try to give your lineup one more turn at bat in a game like this. If you throw him an inning or 2 and it’s still tied than you go from there. Odds are the Yanks would have gotten a run at some point soon in that game.
Carson,
I believe in the philosophy that you use your best reliever in the most high leverage situation in the game. With a runner on 3rd and 2 outs, you’ve found your highest leverage situation. Bringing him in with a lead and no one on, is much less important than getting that 3rd out there. If he pitches to one batter there and gets him out, he can be finished. Bring in Clemens to close it out. Who cares? That moment cost us the game because Proctor was cooked. The at bat that Vizquel put together was proof enough that Proctor had had it. Mariano for one out there with a lefty at the plate, and then Guidry takes the mound in the bottom of the 14th is preferable to me.
Bob. Newsflash those games are out home they will be fine.
the plyanna woosie negative people on this site are getting old..
I do not agree with Torre’s comments about Mariano… It was clemens throw day he could have gone 2 innings also..
they had many many many chances to win this game today they did not because of unclutch hitting, Wang could not hold the lead(he may have an excuse with the hand) and the pen does what it does best walk batters…
torre should manage more for today considering monday is an off day but it is over they are still not sellers but should make some changes on the margins PLEASE make some moves. look at detroit quietly they traded maroth, and ledezma………………
dombrowski is proactive Cash do not wait to long this yr……
just because it’s true and harmless, doesn’t make sterotypes right: Jews are good with money, Asians work around the clock, You run like a girl, Italians make good food; Irish love liquor, Latinos have nice booty, Blacks are good in bed, Jocks are dumb.
Glad to hear the Captain in good spirits and not a serious injury. Hate to hear about Wang’s fingernail problem. Hope that gets taken care of. I’m worried about our bullpen.
claire be quiet. your comments are idiotic………
red sux are being shut out….
Get Otsuka from the Texas Rangers before the Boston Red Sox gets him!!!
He made a “White men can’t jump” joke. He didn’t invoke any other race. There is no way that anyone can possibly find that offensive without making an assumpting and drawing a conclusion. It was a joke about caucasians that stems from a common phrase. It’s got nothing to do with blacks, asians, jews, latinos, or anyone else.
Anyone who finds offense in that statement is someone who is just looking to find offense in something.
Jim Johnson,
I tend to agree with you. He was being self-deprecating about his own race and didn’t say anything about other races. The only insult can be inferred. Still, that might not stop others from drawing something from it. I’m sure Lupica will have a field day with it.
As someone who’s not white…Proctor did nothing wrong. A little attempt at humor and levity in what’s otherwise a difficult interview for him. Not even in the same league as what Sheffield said, who seems to be getting a pass.
(If I were a MLB pitcher, as a Latino, I couldn’t wait to face the guy. I’d drill him in the head and see what he has to say than. He’s a disgrace…)
Those who are blaming Torre on today are missing the point as usual. He cannot hit for the team with runners in scoring position. When they are firing on all cylinders and get those runs in, you do not give him credit, you say “anyone can manage these guys”. So when the players fail with opportunities to drive in runs time and time and time after time after time after time and time and time again, let’s blame the players, shall we? Just as everyone wants to blame him for the famous “Jeff Weaver” game in the World Series against the Marlins…in the 11th of that game Aaron Boone struck out with the bases loaded and one out, just like Matsui today. When guys can’t even get a fly ball or a chopper get that run in, that is NOT Torre’s fault. The guy who blows that is the goat, not the manager.
Bob said “Odds are the Yanks would have gotten a run at some point soon in that game.”….really? did you watch the same game I did? Other than an A-Bomb, the team had NO OFFENSE for 8 innings. There were no “no brainers” at that point. You can take your pitcher out and “trust” that there will be enough innings in the arms of Mo, Clemens and Pettitte to get you to another run, or, you can take a chance that Proctor has another inning in his arm before you turn it over to those guys. It’s NOT as clear cut a choice as you guys make it; it IS a clear responsibility of the offense to perform better than they did, but they didn’t, that’s why they lost.
Sheffield gets a pass on what he says because generally everyone knows that he’s a complete idiot.
As a non-white fan, I am more interested in Proctor as a pitcher than as a joker. It was not meant as an insult to other races. Sheffied is a complete idiot but I wish he were playing for the Yankees no Detroit.
Well said Miguel. Am glad that someone here has a brain. I really don’t know why everyone seems to hate Proctor here either. The guy is a bulldog. What did he pitch today? Like 2 2/3 of an inning? Lets DFA the whole bullpen…….ya that makes a ton of sense (for some reason, people here think it does). Proctor, Viz and Mo need no replacing. The rest….until there is something better, they are stuck with them. It bewilders me when I read some of the stuff on here. Do you people actually read what you are typing? Do you all think about what it is you want to get across? Certainly doesn’t seem that way.
Miguel…
5 runs is enough offense to win. Plus, you can criticize the manager for certain moves that decrease the team’s chances to win. I personally disagree with the way he used the bullpen today, but the most boneheaded move was bunting Abreu. Teams should drive in runs with runners in scoring position, but giving away outs actually decreases the percentage that a hitter will do so. That’s on Torre today, and anytime he chooses to sac bunt. Fair game to criticize him there, even if you want to give him a pass on the bullpen moves.
Nothing offensive about Proctor’s comments, recall a movie a few years back with the same title.
Given SJ’s comments about “situational hitting”, boy, was he on the money about that. Way too many left on base.
So if ozzie guillen says, “hey you think I yell a lot, you should heard my hood, back in the day,” that would be okay?
Self deprecating, harmless, meant to be funny, light years from something patently offensive, not involving another race, but again, does that make that kind of a generalization is cool?
I live in the city, I hear A LOT worse and I’m sure so do you, but just because it isn’t an offensive swipe at gender, race, class, religion, sexual orientation, does it make it okay? if so, everyone should engage in more of the same kind of humor.
think about religion. the most innocent conversation can offen someone. there’s a reason why you don’t want to bring up religion and politics in mixed company.
5 runs was not enough to win today…
Each game has to be treated differently, you have to do what it takes to win THAT GAME. The Giants had 5 runs by the end of the 7th inning. So, in no way, shape or form was 5 tuns enough to win today. The Red Sox won yesterday by a score of 2-1. They did what it takes to win. To win today, the Offense had to pick up Myers and Bruney and score some runs. They didn’t.
I agree that the bunt was a terrible move…I don’t agree with you that all bunts are bad. But after Abreu’s first bunt attempt, a horrible, horrible spectacle, I said to my wife who was watching the game with me “geez that was ugly, I hope they don’t try that again” They did, and that was very very silly of Torre. But that’s one play…they failed with RISP TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN. They failed consistently. So I blame the offense, yeah they scored 5 runs, but the lack of TIMELY hitting was atrocious.
Yankees have to win tomorrow. No way in hell are the Red Sox going to win going against Peavy.
Tomorrow is a must win.
Baltimore should be a snap and it’s a nice start to another winning streak. DH is back. Game at home. A day off.
It has all the makings of a new start. Not that it matters as the Yankees need help. But still good to watch them win as much as they can till the end.
I agree SS tomorrow is a must win…a loss tomorrow and all of the karma from that great run is gone. You win and you won another series, that’s what’ it’s all about right? Winning series. We stubbed our toe agaiinst Colorado but put that behind us. Lose, and it’s two series losses in a row, and 5 out of 6 games after that great stretch, and, back under .500.
Yes Miquel I was watching the same game you were. The law of averages is an amazing thing. There was a greater chance of the Yankeees scoring a run the next time thru the order than there was of A.) Proctor getting a hit in that situation. or B:) Proctor going a third scoreless inning.
Obviously we saw I was right in knowing the Proctor part. We will never know if I was right about the other because Torre didn’t allow it to play out. You can’t predict the future, but there was a far greater chance of winning if Torre brought in Mo in the 13th. Torre greatly diminshed his odds for success. Nieves or Basek may be terrible hitters, but they had a better chance of getting a hit than Proctor, who had zero chance. Couple that with the fact that Proctor was on fumes(as evidenced by the Vizquel at bat quite clearly) and Torre pretty much gave the team the worst possible chance for success at that point in the game. It’s an undeniable fact. You make the moves that give you the best chance to win given the current situation. That was not done today and the Yanks lost. Maybe they lose anyway, but we’ll never know will we?
You ask me if I was watching the same game?
I ask you, have you been watching this team all season? Better yet do you watch baseball at all?
Bob, what the heck are you talking about? We just went through the heart of our order that inning and came up empty. So you think the bottom of our order, with not a decent pinch hitter in sight, would have scored a run?
Wow, I’ve heard of delusional people thinking they would have definitely made the right decision, but this is a case of 20/20 hindsight taken to the extreme.
Do I watch baseball? Every chance I get brotha (I do other things too)…
If Basak (in what would’ve been his first MLB at-bat! see I do pay attention) or Wil Nieves (sucks @$$ as a hitter, plus, you break the Golden do-not-use-up-your-last-catcher-unless it’s-an-emergency rule) do not get on base, now, you HAVE to use Mo, for one inning. fine, Mo retires them in the bottom of the 13th, then what? he is not available for more than one inning. The manager (who knows how the guy’s arm feels…he actually talks to the pitcher as opposed to dreaming up scenarios from his couch) has determined that Mo should not go more than an inning today. cool. so in your situation, he uses Mo, then what? the team gets an inning each out of Clemens and Pettitte? If the team doesn’t score in a few innings they are literally, LITERALLY out of pitchers.
As far as scoring runs…don’t give me this law of averages crap…that didn’t pan out in Colorado at ALL and today they had scored 1 run in 8 innings, on an A-Rod jack, otherwise, NADA…the team is NOT hitting. So he made a call to keep Proctor in the game. Possibly not the right call…if you re-read my last post I said “there are no “no-brainers” in this situation. Bringing in Mo as you suggest is NOT a no-brainer, neither is leaving Proctor in. Torre gambled, tried to get another inning, he lost. He made a judgement call, possibly the wrong one. If he took Proctor out and the game had gone 17 innings there would have been just as many anti-Torre comments. the guy can’t win.
What we DO know…what IS a no-brainer is that the offense had chance after chance after chance after chance after get the point? They failed with those chances. So I put the loss on them, straight up.
““I jumped as high as I could. If I wasn’t white, I might have had a chance of getting it,â€? he said.
Proctor was trying to be funny but some people may not take it that way. It will be interesting if that comment blows up on him. It could.”
We’ll leave it to you, Pete, to help just that happen. For a guy who’s supposedly a movie fan, I guess you’ve never heard of “White Men Can’t Jump.”
re: Proctor’s comments specifically Claire’s issues with it. White people, on the whole, can’t jump, as that craptastic Woody Harrelson film implies. It is acknowledged. And if you’re one of those rare high-jumping white people, you acknowledge that you and your abilities are not the majority.
It’s not that serious.
pete -
you run a great blog.
you are dedicated, often factually and statistically correct; simply said you know baseball, players and of course, the yankees. very well. let alone you put up with a lot of reactionary, mindless, ignorant stuff. your patience with it all is clearly a virtue.
however, to imply that proctor, on the heels of pitching his heart out (which is redundant to say these days) made a racist remark today i think is irresponsible.
he was clearly being playful and trying to add some levity on the heels of a 13 inning loss – of which was lost on a blooper and b/c the yanks left something like 15 men on BISP which i can only imagine is frustrating as hell.
pete: you’re better than that. i’m sensitive to many of the racial and homophobic subtleties of/in sports, but this is a comment that had you not brought attention to, probably would have never been discussed, because sometimes, these comments are in fact innocent.
True Andrea…actually…I don’t know why Peter even brought this up. The “White men can’t jump” is not new….guys say it all the time, so much so that I’m guessing Proctor felt totally cpmfortable saying it, having heard it repeated so frequently. For someone to get in trouble for saying that NOW would be ridiculous.
For Torre to even ask Proctor to go out there and pitch the 3rd inning is completely wrong and unfair to him. Susan said that Proctor told Torre that he was fine to go out there but Torre has to use his own judgement. Ofcourse Proctor is going to tell him that but we have seen that Proctor thinks he is a tough guy and does things he shouldnt and pushes the envelope. So we lose and Rivera never even entered the game and just sits in the dug out…great
This lineup is really going to have to learn how to situational hit better and be more patient…it killed them today. A sac fly always seems like the hardest thing for them. I believe in the 7th inning Arod on 2nd no one out and Posada strikes out on ball 4 and doesnt get him over. Then Matsui had an awful at bat in the 11th he was out on 3 pitches. Cano is the absolute worst hitter with runners on base. After Matsui made out Cano swung at anything in sight it was a joke. I love how Torre makes him out to be a hall of famer in works and no one ever sets the kid straight on the strike zone. Cano thinks this major leagues thing is a joke and treats his at bats that way, like it is not a big deal I will just swing at the 1st pitch I see at my toes.
I do not hate Proctor. I actually think if he was used within reason he could be a good 7th inning pitcher. I do not think he can pitch the 8th, he has the stuff but not the control.
his comment was no big deal let’s let it go.
Miguel I think you know alot about baseball but i disagree on hitting Proctor and I believed it at the time.. You are also correct with any clutch hitting or 7th inning relief pitchers not wlaking guys it is irrelvant…90 games to go, they need to win 54 out of 90, can that be done? If they win 54 they win 90 that probably will not be enough they actulaly need to win 59 out of 90……..they need to go 59 and 41, hard but doable, there schedule has alot of Baltimore, tampa, kc, and other beatable games…
Chris NYC:
Read what I wrote. I’m just telling you what he said to a group of about 8 reporters and saying he could get in trouble over it. I’m not saying he SHOULD get in trouble, I’m just passing on the info. You do what you want with it.
You know how the world works, what are meant as joking comments are misinterpreted all the time. That Proctor plays for the Yankees only magnifies that. Some people will take offense at what he said. I’m not saying they should.
fair enough pete.
i guess i interpreted that even mentioning what might simpy be an innocuous comment gives something – coming frome a reporter – a bit too much credibilty. in hindsight, probably not fair and an assumption on my part.
on the other hand, your post (not suggesting this was your intention) entrusts a responsibility in people who relish any opportunity to fire up this divide.
Andrea, my comments agreed with your, that proctor’s remark was innocent and not serious. Still, this isn’t about proctor, and no, I don’t think they can be proven true.
Generalizations are hard to prove, even about white men jumping. After all, pole vaulting and high jumping events are dominated by white athletes. Conversely, just because swimming and hockey are dominated by white athletes, does that mean others are incapable of swimming or skating? No. Also, white euro basketball teams have beaten our best in recent international competition. There are so many factors, I don’t think you can pigeon hole any one group (even whites) as this or that.
but my question stands, putting aside proctor, in the abstract, are innocent, humourous, self-deprecating generalizations okay? If they are, great, I’m all ears.
Claire,
Geez, lighten up. The more people like you there are in the world, the more boring it becomes. Learn to take a joke and move on.
Dick,
Yes, that definitely explains why the Yankees have the best interleague record in the majors.
I write this blog primarily to try and inform you about the Yankees. I simply mentioned what Scott Proctor said because it’s going to be in the papers tomorrow and I figured I’d give you a heads up.
Of course this leads to all manner of deviants, sociopaths and racists posting here. I’ve had to delete a dozen or so comments tonight.
There are several other Yankees blogs (unfortunately) where this kind of thing is welcome, so go there.
A magazine asked me to do a story earlier this season on sports message boards and I gave up after a few weeks because it was so depressing. I started doing research and the more I did, the more I felt like I had to take a shower. Cowards veiled in anonymity feel like they can say anything. Just once I’d like to them say something to somebody’s face. Of course they never will.
Next time Proctor pitches, give him a pole. Then he’ll vault, catch the ball, 13th inning over, no run scored.
The question you’re asking about self-depricating humor forces one to look at generalizations, which you’re encouraging us not to do. If you want to know if those kinds of remarks are ok, you’re asking people to make a judgement on a population of people based on their general reaction to a general type of comment.
It’s not pigeon-holing. And generalizations are not meant to be proven. If they were, they’d be hypotheses, not generalizations. There are no well-known jokes/awful movies about the fact that non-white people can’t swim or play hockey. But honestly? Who cares. I sincerely doubt that as many people will pay attention to what he said as much as we seem to be. Stand-up comedians make their livings pointing out the humorous generalizations about certain groups. Someone is going to be offended to matter what you say, but you can’t outlaw everything.
After this long-winded comment, I am giving up on the topic. All I have left to say is that it’s really not that serious. When someone says something that’s actually offensive, then maybe I’ll worry about it.
‘White Men Can’t Jump’ made $72 million dollars at the box office. If Proctor can’t make one offhand humorous comment with the same basic theme as a movie that played in thousands of theaters nationwide then somebody WANTS to be offended. It’s a non-issue unless you are a professional complainer.
Back to the game – it’s inexcusable to bat Proctor. He hasn’t had more than 3ABs in a season since 2002 and he’s now struck out 21 of his career 40 professional ABs. I looked at the boxscores in the NL parks today and the only other RP to bat besides Proctor was Russ Ortiz in an 11-1 blowout. You can’t win the game if you don’t try to get the lead. I think it’s a joke to bat Proctor two days in a row.
You don’t get bonus points for degree of difficulty. It’s simple to put the best players in the game for the individual situations and play tomorrow’s game tomorrow. Today reminded me of that sham All-Star game where Torre emptied the bench and then Selig called the game a tie. In an All-Star game Torre empties the bench. In a game that counts with a runner on-base in the 13th inning he bats the pitcher and leaves a professional position player on the bench. It’s puzzling to say the least.
“Professional position player”…
Perhaps the two worst in the MLB. Mike Mussina likes thorwing to Will Nieves, fine, he is an AWFUL hitter.
Chris Basak has 0 MLB ABS!
I will say this…both of those facts are inexcusable. The Yankees (hell, ANY MLB team but especially one with World Championship) aspirations should not have such scrubs on the bench. It probably wouldn’t cost an arm and a leg prospect-wise to get real professionals, like I mean proven guys who’ve had success at this level, to fill those spots in the bench.
If Torre had Ruben Sierra or even Josh Phelps on the bench, pinch-hitting might have made sense. There is absolutely NO reason to believe either of those guys would have come through.
Miguel – Then why have them on the roster?
Chris Basak has 2812 ABs in the minors (.265/.335/.395). Proctor has 38 ABs in the minors. There’s no guarantee that Basak would have came through but there is every reason to believe he had a much better chance of getting a hit than Proctor. Basak puts the ball in play 200% more than Proctor based on the stats and most hits I’ve seen involve putting the ball in play.
Wang had no excuses.
According to a Taiwanese media postgame interview, Wanger said that the fingernail had nothing to do with his bad performance. It’s his fail for not holding the lead, not the pen’s. He didn’t feel surprised to the HR in 7th inning, b/c his bad command on his 2-seamers at that time.
Would Lilly have been a better option than Igawa? Yes! Then who cares what the budget is? The Yankees don’t have a budget!! It doesn’t matter what they pay guys. Would it be great if all their players earned their dough? Yes. But you deal with it. Pavano was a emss up and costs 10 mill. Giambi is on the books for 18 mill. Would those 28 be better used elsewhere? Sure but that waste of 28 mill this yr has no effect on what Cashmans resources are.
You watch this off season if they win 88 games and finish 5 games out of the WC. They’ll sign 2 starting pitchers, a CF, 1b, and 3 pen guys.
Which isn’t bad. And hopefully the system gives them some players which is the key to any sustained run.
If 2 pitchers out of their collection of 20 turn into legit #2 type starters, the Yanks are WAY ahead of the game.
Do me a favor everyone. Don’t give up on these guys. They got heart.
Wang is an ace and right now I bet he feels terrible about that 7th inning.
You can lay any amount of dough you want that in his next start he pitches a great game.
Why?
Because he is that type of guy.
Wang had answered Taiwanese reporters’ questions about the “ACE” things for several times. He said he is just a starter pitcher, not an “ace.”
In my opinion, those statements of Wang are really what he thinks of himself. He might or might not become a really ace in the following two or three years, but he is working, silently and calmly, maturing himself right now.
Every time the Yankees win when Wang pitches, he gives credit to his teammates and blames himself when the Yankees lose. This is always what Wang says to the Taiwanese media. It’s hard not to like Wang!
Joejoe joe
that’s exactly my point…why have them on the roster? They’re not major league caliber players, especially Basak, Nieves at least provides D. Judging by the stats you gave, Basak isn’t even an AAAA player, more like a straight-up AAA player.
Peter…
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Taiwan medea shows the picture about Wang’s blister/fingernail problem
It looks like a little horrible..
Could Yankee give him several days to recover the fingernail?
1. Scott Proctor better get suspended by the Yankees or MLB for that comment. I, for one, am offended by that, as U’m sure many others are as well.
2. Cashman has done a terrible job and doesn’t for whatever reason get criticism? This bench he put together is a joke. Basak, Phillips, and Nieves aren’t major league players. Myers is a waste of a roster spot. Farnsowrth should’ve been traded. 1B is a mess. Cashman must go.
3. Torre can’t go fast enough either, and I can’t wait when Girardi takes over.
4. Yanks will finish with a 81-81 record, appropriately. We’ll be back next year with a real manager and GM.
Jeff,
Are you high? Cashman must go? All he’s freaking done is rebuild a barren farm system into one of the best in baseball. By next season we will be reaping the fruits of his labor so to speak. Thats because Joba, Kennedy, Hughes, Horne and Marquez will all be at AAA or the majors. Firing Cashman now would be dumb.
“1. Scott Proctor better get suspended by the Yankees or MLB for that comment. I, for one, am offended by that, as U’m sure many others are as well.”
Jeff,
I’m offended that you’re offended. And I’m offended that Pete even mentioned this triviality. And I’m offended that Brian Cashman is still the GM. And I’m offended that Clueless Joe is still the manager.
I am not only NOT offended by the comment but I am offended at how offended you are acting…yes ACTING…
furthermore, Pete, your defense of Torre is inexcusible…
1. it is ok to say Torre screwed up today. He did.
2. Even if they won this game, how you can defend using a reliever, who as YOU pointed out, has thrown EIGHTY SIX pitches in three days!!!!!!
3. To say that they dont need to win a game on June 23 (an argument I never understood because as your history shows, we know you love the redsox, so I am SURE you were watching in 2005 when the Yankees and Redsox tied meaning a game on June 23 counted enough to warrant using YOUR BEST RELIEVER IN A TIE GAME ON THE ROAD FOR ONCE
4. Yes, Mariano had elbow problems LAST year, he also logged more inning in April and May last year than he has ALL of this season.
Get off your high horse and put blame where its due for once.
ugh
Brian Cashman deserves to be fired for getting a cripple in exchange for an elite slugger in Sheffield and getting nothing of value for RJ…not to mention the worst bench in all of baseball…not to mention the bizzare 1B situation…not to mention the Kei Igawa debacle.
ok so Cashman deserves to get fired because he made a trade (which was PRAISED at the time) because a young pitcher had to get Tommy John surgery. That has never happened before(in case you cant sense it – this is sarcasm. For reference try seeing: Francisco Liriano). What, can I ask, would you suggest Cash have done about first base. He brought in a defensive first baseman, which if you watch baseball you will know they needed. Furthermore, what option out there was better? (Insert your TRADE HUGHES FOR TEX COMMENT HERE). Would you rather see Shea Hillenbrand at first? Wil Nieves or Tank, hmmmmmmmmm. So cashman got nothing of value (which is a ridiculous statement in itself because you cant say that while Ohlendorf is stil only 24 years old) for a randy johnson who has provided lets see NO VALUE to the Arizona Diamondbacks and is out AGAIN with ANOTHER herniated Disc. Stop drinking the Pete Kool-aide…it kills
If Proctor gets suspended for making a joke, presumably to get people off his back who were probably asking “how did letting that run score feel” or “what could you have done differently” or some such crap, I might actually consider protesting. I’m not sure where, but I’ll do it. I can just see Kim Jones in the locker room–”Scott, what were you thinking when you jumped up and watched that ball sail over your head?”