Game 74: Yankees at Orioles
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 26, 2007 
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Here are the lineups:
YANKEES
Damon DH
Jeter SS
Matsui LF
Rodriguez 3B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Abreu RF
Cairo 1B
Pettitte LHP (4-5, 3.28)
ORIOLES
Roberts 2B
Gomez SS
Markakis RF
Hernandez C
Huff DH
Mora 3B
Millar 1B
Payton LF
Patterson CF
Guthrie RHP (4-1, 2.42)
Pregame chatter: Damon visited his chiropractor in Orlando and says he feels more like himself. Johnny claims he had four ribs out of place. … Joe Torre said Abreu is hitting eighth because of his struggles (7 of his last 42) and will be back at No. 3 once he figures it out. … Asked about Phil Hughes, Torre said, “Ask me again in a month.” In other words, we won’t be seeing Phil Franchise any time soon. … The Yankees are 8-15 against AL East teams. … Roger Clemens is not here today as he attended a funeral in Connecticut. He will make his start tomorrow. … Derek Jeter turns 33 today and had every contestant in the recent Miss Universe pageant flown in to celebrate. Well, that may not be entirely true. What is true is that the captain had 2,250 hits before his 33rd birthday and the last player who had more at that stage of his career was Robin Yount (2,391). … Mike Myers also celebrates his birthday today. He is 38.
UPDATE 7:36 p.m.: You want to try and bunt for a base hit, that’s fine. But why dive into first base? You lose momentum from the second you leave your feet. Players are taught that as minor leaguers but some guys still do it. It used to drive Bobby Valentine crazy when Roberto Alomar did it with the Mets. It’s total false hustle. Bad move by Melky. As Bobby V once said, if diving gets you there faster, why don’t Olympic sprinters do it?
UPDATE, 8:41 p.m.: Here is how screwy pitching is. Jeremy Guthrie appeared in 16 games for Cleveland from 2004-06. In 37 innings he allowed 42 hits and walked 23 while striking out only 24. Nothing special for a 28-year-old and Cleveland DFA’d him. Baltimore claimed him on Jan. 29. Now he’s 4-1 with a 2.42 ERA and shutting the Yankees out through five innings.
UPDATE, 8:47 p.m.: Hey, it’s that Johnny Damon guy. Awful looking swing, homer to right field. We’ve seen that before.
UPDATE, 9:43 p.m.: Pettitte has allowed two or fewer earned runs in 11 of his 16 starts. He was the winner in only four of those games. It happened again tonight.
UPDATE, 9:54 p.m.: Is there a point to all this bunting? Chris Ray walks the first guy and you let him off the hook by giving up an out, even if it is at first base. Robinson Cano has not had a sacrifice all season. But on June 26 let’s have him lay one down so .254-hitting Melky Cabrera can have a shot at a single. It makes no sense.
UPDATE, 10:05 p.m.: I understand the theory behind not using your closer in a tied game on the road. But if there was ever a time to break that rule, it is tonight. The Yankees are desperate for a victory and Rivera has thrown only 1 2/3 innings in the last nine days. It’s hard to have much faith in Proctor here, even if he has had two days offf.
Damon to the DL please. Come back after the All Star Break.
Go Yankees.
Yankees will win 8-2 and Abreu will hit one out.
OK…come back and laugh at me later…lol
chiropractor ?
He had strained stomach muscles!
Unless the manipulation included a “happy ending” I don’t see how his stomach improved.
Ask Torre in a month? Did Joe mention where he’ll be vacationing, in August?
Hey, look, guys! Pete made it a point to tell us that Phil won’t be back anytime soon. What a shocker.
Seriously, dude, we get it. He’s started a throwing program, and he’s not coming back until August 1 at the earliest. I read that when Will Carroll wrote it yesterday. But for some reason, he doesn’t sound like he’s trying to be an ass about it.
I guess Torre wasn’t listening when A-Rod said he enjoyed hitting behind Abreu because it allowed him to see what the pitcher had that night. So glad that this is his last year.
xryanx –
On this last road trip, especially in SF, Abreu had nothing and A-Rod did just fine, thank you. I think he doesn’t need the training wheels anymore.
Didn’t a day off (similar to the one he got Sunday) spark Abreu last time? maybe this will get him back on track, again……
I’m feeling more like Yankees 7, bmore 2.
Hopefully Torre won’t be here in a month and they’ll be asking Girardi!
Joseph P., people have been asking Pete for an update, relax……
Dr. Acula, can you precribe joey p. one of those happy endings you mentioned?
Anybody you like on the White Sox roster (Konerko, Jim Thome, etc)?
The post reports the “White Sox have been scouting (yankee prospects) Ian Kennedy and Joba Chamberlain” for a possible deal.
Thanks Cash for rushig Phil up – he should have been in AAA honing his stuff this year.
A-Rod said that twice this year. Neither time was when Abreu wasn’t hitting, it was when he was on his game, taking and fouling off a lot of pitches. Nothing was mentioned of that when Abreu was striking out and attempting to bunt.
No-one I can think of that I like better than those two guys you mentioned (kennedy and joba) except Garland, whom I’m sure is not available….
1. damon’s act is beyond tired or tedious. just put him on the DL already. i’ve gone from loving the guy and the personality he brought to the team to wishing to got he’d just go away for two weeks in the span of two months. shut up and sit, johnny. or play. either way, just shut up. please.
2. chamberlain and kennedy better not go ANYWHERE. it’s time for cashman to be honest with himself about this team, not try and “save” this season.
Joseph P.,
Phil Hughes = Yankee Talk on a Yankee blog
Find the nearest door and go get some fresh air.
Mike Myers is celebrating his 38th birthday, AGAIN ?!
I didn’t know today was groundhog’s day.
Yeah, because a hamstring injury can’t happen in AAA. Bringing up a guy who everyone has said is “ready” as early as last year is not rushing him. He could have pulled that hamstring just as easily in AAA, AA, A, or running to get the mail.
The only reason he’s out this long is becuase he injured hsi ankle during rehab.
Athletes get hurt ladies, get over it.
Sorry, Chris. It’s just that every time Phil is mentioned on this blog, it comes off as horribly negative. He could have simply left it at “ask me again in a month,” or even cited Mr. Carroll’s article from yesterday.
The fact that Derek Jeter’s birthday is the same as Mike Myers is sad for Jeter. I feel bad for him. Hopefully everyone ignores Myers for being a loser.
I am always a fan of the “happy endings” Dr. Acula
I don’t think Pete meant it to come out that way, nor did I perceive it that way…. just interpreting what Torre said.
As I said yesterday we cannot trade our top pitching prospects because it leaves us in a terrible situation of patching a rotation together with guys who are mediocre, past their prime, or plan out suck. Examples: Vazquez, Weaver, Wright, Randy, Kevin Brown, Pavano, etc
xryanx are you kidding me. You think that Bobby should be batting 3rd? What exactly has he done, for him to hit there?
Since there are to Yankees who celebrate their birthdays today how about a Birthday win. Happy Birthday to Jeter and Myers and a wYankee win.
He might not have meant for it to come out that way, but it always seems to.
Then again, if I was bombarded with questions regarding Hughes’s status on a daily basis, I might throw in a comment or two like that, too.
So apologies for the overreaction. It just gets old, ya know?
I predict the Yankees lose 1-0 with the guy replacing Tejada having the game winning hit.
Joseph P:
Sorry if a few facts offended you. Torre was asked a question, he gave an answer and I gave you the information.
This Hughes thing cracks me up. Next time somebody gets hurt I’ll just make happy predictions so nobody gets upset. I wish the kid were pitching too because he’s fun to watch. But he’s not.
Chris NY,
_Athletes get hurt ladies,_ and ironcially ladies hurt atheletes –>> “Tawny Kitaen kicks Chuck Finley to the crub (no, seriously)”:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.....l_troubles
Andy’s sweating like a fat kid in gym class.
Too funny Dr. Pro athlete filing domestic abuse charges against his wife. Could she be the fullback A-rod was seen with in Toronto?
Rocco, maybe they should switch to cotton uniforms alla George Costanza?
Rocco,
That tends to happen in 92 degree heat.
So far my prediction looks pretty good
Chris,
nah, Tawney’s a redhead. She was the dancer in the infamous “White Snake” video, dancing on the car hood.
check out the size difference btn Tawney and “Finley”:http://tinyurl.com/2vxk6f
With regard to Damon and the Chiro. Sweeny Murti had a very insightful interview with Damon that aired on the WFAN Saturday morning not sure if it is up on the website (if so you should go listen) and one of the questions/discussions was about his concussion and its effects on him post. He said that he needs to get seen by the chiro often as it is one of the post effects and that if he doesnt it all goes pear shaped.
Kay sounded upset that Mora didn’t hit a home run there.
Hah, Kay thought that was going to be a HR
I haven’t seen porkchop on here for a while…that always provides some comedy relief!
Is the head first slide into first the dumbest play in baseball? Cabrera must have grown up watching Roberto Alomar do that for the Mets. Nice play by Hernandez. At least Cabrera had a good idea..try to get on.
Could this be yet another tough-luck loss for Andy? Seriously, I know he’s got a tough mental makeup, but the sheer lack of offense he gets is bound to drive even the toughtest pitcher to drink after a while!
assuming the yankees continue to play listlessly, what do you think they could get for abreu at the deadline, hes in the final year of his contract, hes lefty – all i’m talking about is a decent back-up catcher or middle reliever
and damon not hitting is killing them, his defense pathetic and if hes not getting on … ahh forget it
Damon is playing well
Ahhh, that’s right… she kinda has some guns of her own, doesn’t she?
Damon is playing well
Definitely earning his contract more than that choker A-Rod
This team is dead and lifeless…like their manager.
The Yanks have totally tuned Torre out. He has worn out his welcome. Yanks need a new voice. It’s Torre’s time to go.
iBB here?
Good way to get Abreu swinging well: protect him in lineup with Miguel Cairo.
Genius.
Good way to get Abreu swinging well: protect him in lineup with Miguel Cairo.
Genius.
You have it backwards, Abreu is protecting the all important Miguel Cairo
So how bad are the Yankees swinging the bat tonight? Only have game day up and the radio but is sounds like the horrid slump is still there.
Any one?
Only time players should dive into first is if the firstbaseman has to come of the bag to field a throw and is trying to apply a tag. Any other time it’s pointless.
Pettitte’s 3rd inning worried me.
Baltimore’s super humid. I’m not surprised they’re all sweating like pigs.
Why does Melky continue to try to bunt for a base hit? Has he gotten one any time in the recent past?
Kay really does want to call a homer tonight
And why does Kay seem so excited at the possibility of an opponent hitting a home run? His HR calls are just as exciting for the other team as they are for the Yankees when they hit one.
DISTURBING STAT OF THE WEEK:
Mike Mussina’s lifetime batting average is 28 points higher than Wil Nieves’
Moose: .170
Nieves: .142
Wil the Thrill is hitting .111 this year.
From Phil Allard on NYFans.Com
I think Kelly Stinnett would of been a better bet
Andy doesn’t look very sharp!
Why don’t we bring back Sal!
Andy looks like he will faint out there, he is red as a beet.
We are the bad news bears! One of them could have caught it.
Oh come on Center Fielder… take charge or sit on the bench. Give me a break.
Abreu is afraid of someone sneezing on him in the outfield he totally had that ball but heard Melky coming and veered away like a little girl
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing,
Andy Pettitte really does look like he’s going to pass out. They aren’t really showing anyone else–is everyone else that ill looking, and it’s just hot, or is there something wrong with Andy?
thats right big sal fassano, he hit a homer last year in baltimore, i’d say hes a better bet of popping one out then bobby abreu
It is very hot and humid in Balitmore. Andy needs to get out of the inning and get cooled off. The man could pass out from this.
they look lost out there, somebody do something, Please
i really dont know if i can take anymore bloops
Andy has terrible luck they never hit for him and he had to get 5 outs that inning
I am watching the Baltimore telecast..
Bloop hit leads to run in the 3rd.
great communication by melky and abreu and the missed strike call lead to run 2.
can it get any worse?????????????????????????????????????????????????
pete..i gotta be honest…there seems to be a twinge of delight eminating from you whenever a hughes update comes up. Sort of a “i told you all so.” No?
This base walking has got to stop.
Ok, so it is top of the 4th and from the looks of Gameday, the radio, and the posting, this game is over.
Wow, another losing streak. This will be 3 in a row.
Someone the other night challenged me on saying the Yankees were overmatched because they outscore their opponent by 40 plus runs. Well they look over matched tonight. 2 hits and losing 2-0.
Incidentally, run ratio means nothing. The Mariners have outscored their opponents by 5 runs and have a better record than the Yankees.
This is pathetic.
Andy is very pissed!! Yelling and screaming throwing stuff in the dugout!! WHOA!
What would it take to string together 3 hits in a row?
sure it can get worse with this team, seattle is now 40-33, i remember about 5 weeks ago i was annoyed when the yankees split wit them, who knew the yankees were the lucky ones
Is Andy getting too hot out there. They need to give him some gatorade or pickle juice like the Eagles swore to drinking at one time.
You got to really love people saying its over in the 4th inning. I forgot they only played 4 innings now in MLB. Thanks, Colorado Yank, for that update. Jerk. Go back to your Sox blog.
I would be pissed if I were him. He’s been pretty understanding about them not scoring runs for him, but this is ridiculous. They’ve got a great pitcher in Andy Pettitte. They’ve got to back him up. At least that last went went over to left field. Matsui could just grab it and be on his way.
Would Cano swing at a pick off attempt to 3rd? My guess 70% of the time
Is it wrong to be happy that Cano made Guthrie throw a lot of pitches?
We get a hit or a walk, and what does the next guy do?? Hit into a double play!!! UGH
Andy S. Jerk??? Sox???? um why would you think that I am a Sox fan. And using the word Jerk? C’mon you can do better than that. A simple, I disagree would do better.
Why is the default when you disagree that someone is a Sox fan? Troll I am not. Yankees fan, definately. Frustated at watching a bunch of overpaid underachievers look like a AAA team . You F’ng bet I am. Enough is enough. This is my opinion. What should I say, Oh, golly gee, the Yanks are just not getting the breaks tonight. Well at least they are playing hard.. oopps they kind of misjudged that fly ball, but they hustled.
Give me a friggin break. Call a spade a spade. Bad team. Bad players not performing. If these were the CEO’s of companies you had money invested in, you would be asking for their resignation.
I am conpletely offended by the Sox comment. Racist prick.
Yanks only chance tonight is getting Guthrie out of the game. But it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen. He’s thrown 56 pitches through 5 innings.
Being a Sox fan is now a race?
Being a Sox fan is now a race?
Red Sox Nation?
Whoa what a strange play. bat and ball both went to Jeter. Now the bat hit the ball, if jeter didn’t make the play what would have happened?
Whoa what a strange play. bat and ball both went to Jeter. Now the bat hit the ball, if jeter didn’t make the play what would have happened
Runners on first and 3rd one out
So they would award an out for that? interference or something?
Rocket needs to give the Captain a talk on what to do with that splintered bat when it comes your way.
Ha. Red Sox Nation. I didn’t even think of that.
Seriously. Pettitte looks like he’s hyperventilating.
Melky’s play was dumb, but any hustle by a Yankee is a welcome sight right now.
So they would award an out for that? interference or something?
No it was already one out. Its a live ball
Seriously. Pettitte looks like he’s hyperventilating
Why? What does it look like in Baltimore tonight?
Why? What does it look like in Baltimore tonight?
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It’s supposedly 91 degrees or so but it’s typically pretty humid. I don’t know though. Pettitte just looks a lot sweatier/red-faced than anyone else.
Andy looks really ticked!! As frustrating as it is to watch, imagine being a pitcher!! No run support!! You can’ go out there every single game and thinking you have to throw a shut out!
Yankees need a good brawl. Fire the team up. After the near brawl with Boston they had a fire lit under their asses.
I’m looking for something here…. anything
8pm weather in Baltimore – 85 degrees and the dewpoint is 71. That’s oppresively humid weather. Heat index is 90.
Perhaps because its 91 degrees and very humid?
Seriously they may need to give Andy some more fluids. I can imagine he’s pretty frustrated about now too.
Thanks Andrea. Only get radio and Gameday out here..
if I were Andy Pettitte, I’d probably have a rumble with Bobby Abreu. Since that awful play in Boston that allowed Ortiz to get a TRIPLE (when that happens, there is something WRONG. Almost as bad as when Barry Bonds steals a base. bad news), Abreu has been nothing but trouble for Andy Pettitte. I would have snapped by now.
Does Kay have nothing better to talk about than, a hot dog vendors black socks?
He has real issues.
yeah, Gameday is good and awful at the same time. I was keeping tabs on the game Sunday at San Fransisco on my cell phone and it wasn’t really letting me know about errors or any such thing. It’s nice to have acceses to the game though, even when you’re in, say, Colorado.
Thank goodness that nightmare ending is over. Loaded bases on the opposing team makes me sweat
All of a sudden the zone has gotten so big you could drive a truck thru it.
at least one of the strikes was a ball!
3-0 to a strikeout. brilliant bobby
trade abreu quick, his value is approaching nil after each at-bat – pathetic
hahaha Jennifer
The strike zone was pretty big to begin with. I noticed that at the beginning of the game. Lame.
Now can Johnny do something!! Please!!! A nice game tieing homerun.
Doesn’t seem like Andy is getting the same zone. He hasn’t been happy a number of times on the calls.
Jennifer–I’d settle for him just not hitting into a double play.
And he JUSt hit the home run.
Good call!
YEY. No go to the DL punk.
WOOHOOO I called it!!
Thank you JOHNNY!
HAPPY ENDING!!!!
Woooo Hooo!
*Now.
I take back everything bad I’ve ever said about chiropractors! Go Johnny Go!
Nice call Jennifer… play powerball.
Thank you jennifer.
See we missed this guy, Damon at DH makes works. Makes you think the lack of bench was a huge part of the problem the last 6 games in national league parks.
Get Abreu to Damon’s chiropractor! Stat!
I’ll play mega millions tomorrow on the way into work.
we needed that.
Seriously Jennifer. give me some lotto numbers to play!
Anyone read the article on Jeter in Newday, I think… about all the “jeter” facts. Looks like he just added to his multi-hit games. Another hitting streak??????
“1. damon’s act is beyond tired or tedious. just put him on the DL already. i’ve gone from loving the guy and the personality he brought to the team to wishing to got he’d just go away for two weeks in the span of two months. shut up and sit, johnny. or play. either way, just shut up. please.”
Man, I feel exactly the same way lately. Well said kasey – and good to see you around, man.
…wait – Damon hits a HR to tie it up. LOL Still…. he needs to get hot again or take a rest. Now if that “happy ending” Dr. Acula referred to was responsible for that dinger, Johnny needs to visit his chiro weekly.
Jennifer! You the man! errr… woman!
Damon is feeling good tonight
Jeff NY–I have no doubt that it was the lack of bench that screwed us in the NL parks. That and the fact that I really do not understand 80% of Torres moves and double switches.
Ohh that just did my heart so good. Thank you Johnny! Thank you Chiropractor!
Three hits in a row. A sight for sore eyes.
Godzilla? Is that still relevant?
Does Matsui look lost at the plate? He is not the player he was pre-injury.
if A-Rod opts out and does NOT re-sign with the Yankees, I might just cry.
Totally.
HIRE that chiropractor !!!
Ladies and Gentleman, I’d like to introduce you to our new team trainer, Dr. Acheman.
QUICK, extend the chiropractor contract before Boston places a ridiculous posting bid!
Comeon godzilla
Where would the Yankees be without Jeter, A-Rod, and Posada….
Did Matsui age 10 years in the off-season? Maybe that snapped wrist has affected him permanently? He just doesn’t seem like the same hitter,
okay let’s see if Rod’s warmed up his bat tonight. We need a hit and bring the birthday captain home
Beat me to it, Colorado
Watching the Cubs and the Rockies. Ted Lilly is dealing. Man, maybe should have signed him rather than Igawa.
Any rumors on Farnsworth going anywhere?
Posada there to bring the guys home
The Farns has got to go to a Pants store and get looser pants.
i realize that’s not his biggest issue, but he looks like a ballet dancer and it bugs me.
There, there, Andrea,
You crazy kids will always have Yankee Stadium. That and Scores Gentleman’s club. If there’s a heavan on earth, it’s on 59th and Lex.
Hmm, all of a sudden Guthrie is up to 86 pitches. That’s what I’m talking about, knock him out of the game and get to the Danys Baezes of the world!
Colorado Yank I have said the same thing.. he pitched good at times in Toronto so who knows if he would be doing the same for the Yanks as he is with the Cubs. But since the Yanks chose Igawa over signing Lilly and gave him basically the same amount there NO REASON for him not to be here.
59th between 1st and 2nd. A friend of a friend told me.
UGH why can’t we get bloop hits like that?
Yeah sure Jeff
a friend of yours told you. 
Then is it the Hustler club that’s on the west side?
I think it is time for Matsui to have a day off. When was the last time he had one. They give Abreau off when he gets in the funk (not that it has helped) but maybe Godzilla needs a day.
I think the reason(s) Cash signed Igawa over Lilly were no luxury tax on the posting fee, and also flexibility–if Igawa sucks, it’s easy to send him down to the minors, but with Lilly they can’t do that, they’re stuck with him in the rotation unless they can trade him, regardless of how he pitches.
But I too often pine for Theodore Roosevelt Lilly. A lefty, a gamer, experienced vs AL East…
“But I too often pine for Theodore Roosevelt Lilly. A lefty, a gamer, experienced vs AL East…”
…and not to mention he really wanted to come back to the Yanks.
I heart Pettitte’s pickoffs.
But they still shelled out 40 million plus for a pitcher than many said wouldn’t be anything better than a 5. There were better options out there!
Wow. That stadium just played If You’re Happy and you Know It. Wow.
BBB, your last sentence says it all. AL East experience. With 19 against each division team, some dude who was good in minor league ball doesn’t cut it…
“Hmm, all of a sudden Guthrie is up to 86 pitches.”
He threw 30 pitches that inning. That’s EXACTLY what we needed.
enough with the Matsui stuff, his #’s are not bad… He is actually fielding better also.
the guy will have over 100 RBI’ and hit between 280 and 305, that ain’t bad..
he is this generations tommy henrich
Interesting. Zilla is two weeks older than jetes and a year younger than Arod. But this is his 15th season in pro ball, suiting up nearly 1,900 games. that’s a lot of rubber on the road.
Andrea, I haven’t heard that song since I was in Kindergarten 20 plus years ago! LOL Very Lame. Another lame thing they do there. Is during the National Anthem when you sing O’ say does … they do the OOOOOO as in Orioles. The first time I heard it I was horrified!
DR. I don’t know if I believe zilla’s age. I think it is like Duque, he is older than he says.
Does Robainson Cano know how to take a pitch? When was the last time he walked? Is it my imagination or is he 0-2 in every at-bat?
Time to grind out a victory. Without a lot of power in the lineup its going to have to happen a lot.
I agree with Stuart. Matusi is a 0.285 and 100 RBI player. He is not the reason the Yanks are 1 game under 500.
BULLPEN TIME!
Just think. The O’d pen is worse than ours.
“But they still shelled out 40 million plus for a pitcher than many said wouldn’t be anything better than a 5.”
Not only that but they even said during ST that he might end up in the bullpen. 46 mil for a reliever?! Bad signing, indeed. I can see what Cash’s logic was there, but unfortunately that logic was flawed, at best.
thank god they took guthrie out, he looks good. DFA’d to a 2 and change ERA…
ABreu keep your front shoulder in , please….
Techincally its only 20 million. Not 46. The posting fee doesn’t count anywhere on the books. Major league pitching. Pays to be a pitcher.
Cano is hitting 200 with RISP and 100 with them loaded…
How bizarre are some people to blame Jeter and Matsui for the recent bad stretch? Get yours head examined.
jennifer, that is kind of appalling. It’s not like we turn “the Rocket’s red glare” into Clemens. Sorry, bad example. Just all I could think of.
WHY does every stadium play the Addam’s family song?
This must be an highlight from an old game, I thought I saw Abreu get a hit.
“I agree with Stuart. Matusi is a 0.285 and 100 RBI player. He is not the reason the Yanks are 1 game under 500.”
Agreed. I take back my knee-jerk reaction to a bad at bat. His numbers are about average for him.
It is very flawed. It isn’t like some said he’ll be good or has the potential. Than you could see him taking a flier. Very early in spring training there were alot of whispers that he wasn’t any good. Not a good way to start out.
Now that bobby got a hit, i hope joe doesn’t move him back up right away. give him a few days down in the lineup.
That’s my boy, Bobby. I promise you all he’s going to turn things around and have a big 2nd half.
As Abreu and Damon go, so goes the Yanks offense.
Can Cashmoney please get a 1b? Please.
That $20M is not Monopoly money. It’s real money.
Who cares if it’s on the books or not. That’s a lot of cabbage for a reject like Igawa.
Andrea,
there’s a scores in chelsea
Jeff NJ-
I meant to say, the line starts on Lex and ends at 2nd.
maybe andy philips should have pinch hit for cairo
Chuckles it is not your money so why should you care if the Yanks want to spend it. I am just happy the Yanks are willing to spend money on players. Besides, they probably recover the $20M in revenue from Japan anyway.
Also Lily was for 4 years and given the number of good pitching prospects we have coming up, we only would need Lily for 2 years at most. What do we do with him in 09 and 10?
“maybe andy philips should have pinch hit for cairo”
why? cairo was 2 for 2 before that at bat.
Does someone have the stat on how infrequently the Yankees get the run home with a runner on third and less than two outs?
Why didn’t Torre have Cairo bunt? When was the last time the Yankees ran a squeeze play?
Whats the point of having Phillips here when we won’t play him?
By the way, Dr. Acula, I love Elizabeth Banks. You got good taste, bro.
kasey:
welcome back.
I love that kid’s arm. 2 more of those in the OF please
Whoever thought phillips should have pinch hit for cairo is a moron. Cairo was 2-2 and is having a good day at the plate.
“Also Lily was for 4 years and given the number of good pitching prospects we have coming up, we only would need Lily for 2 years at most. What do we do with him in 09 and 10?”
Isn’t Igawa also for 4 years? (albeit at a lower rate) Also, it would have been a lot easier to trade Lilly 2 years down the line than Igawa..someone like Lilly is always needed by someone. The difference is that we could put Igawa in the pen in 2 years and can’t do that with Lilly, but again..that’s one expensive reliever.
Anyway, nice to finally see the other guys get thrown out trying to turn a single into a double for once! Earlier in the season that seemed only to happen to us…
Elizabeth Banks does have that everyday, girl nextdoor, “attainable” kinda thing going on…
I’ve wondered that myself. What is the reason for Phillips and Basak being here? I thought they’d be useful in the NL parks to pinch hit, but Torre just didn’t really play it that way.
If Cairo’s starting, who’s the backup infielder? Answer – Phillips and Basak. That’s why they’re here. although I was under the impression Phillips was going to start. But with Cairo playing how he has been, why would they bench him for Andy Phillips?
Ron Benbow-
Gracias, Ron. I do have a batter’s “eye”:http://tinyurl.com/2s3teu
I was under the impression that Cairo would eventually wear out, since he’s not used to playing every day. I’m impressed though.
Torre’s not even giving Basak a chance though. He’s had 1 at bat and played maybe an inning or two. I’m glad they brought up an extra OF though. When Cairo went in at LF, that was no good.
I feel for Andy. He gets little run support and in will probably get a no decision again.
That was a disappointing inning.
I thought Phillips was going to start too but I’m glad to have been wrong on that one. I remember Torre saying something like ‘we’re pressing our luck’ with Miggy, which I took to mean that he thought you can’t expect Miggy to play this well every day…that kind of pissed me off because until recently, they never played him! How would they know what he can and can’t give them every day? Glad he’s still out there.
I’m guessing they figure it’s better to push that envelope. Hard to bench a guy playing well, just give him some days off. Don’t forget about a couple years ago when the 2B platoon became Cairo’s job and he did very well all year. He’s capable. And you don’t know what to expect from the other two, so no reason to find out yet.
Pettite is the %^$^%$ing man. I wish Mussina and Igawa would try this whole “go seven innings” thing, as well as the throw strikes to get outs thing.
Pettite knew his team needed him to keep them in the game, no whining he went out and performed. Hopefully he’s still around next year, because my respect for this guy is through the roof.
Farnsworth. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
damn it. I’m tired of these no decisions for Andy. Total garbage.
Farnsworth? Do they want to win this game?
Kyle Farnsworth in a tie game.
And they ask us why we drink.
how does one explain that: three ground outs in a row, and by jetes, zilla, and arod, no less.
Spending money is one thing, but spending money wisely is another.
I didn’t want Lilly in the off-season and I don’t want him now. People often forget that Lilly has been a .500 pitcher his entire career and not worth the money and years he was asking.
The Yanks rotation will be fine in the next couple of years with the young arms coming up.
They just need to do some patch work until those kids are ready for the majors.
Yup, Cairo was very good in 2004. Damn near a career high in OPS+ (102). Hasn’t come close since (64, 59, 62), well below even replacement level. In other words, unacceptable.
Pettitte shows us every 5th day how much we’ve missed him the last 3 years. Makes you wonder how different things could have been in ’04.
Coulda woulda shoulda.
Wonder what the payout would be if Farnsworth ACTUALLY had a 1-2-3 inning.
Farnsworth wont get out of this inning without letting up a run.
pete,
a few days ago in a post you wrote something to the effect of: “now you see why we don’t use bruney in the 8th inning?” while i agree with the sentiment of that statement to some extent, what is the alternative? why do we use farnsworth in the 8th? why do we use proctor in the 8th? they all suffer from the same flaws…allow base runners (often due to walks) and don’t get the job done.
so who deserves the job at this point? i think farnsworth is definitely not the guy. while bruney is certainly not the second coming of cy young, he has shown flashes of brilliance, and so i think he is currently the best option.
Jennifer–say there’s going to be a double play. Then it’ll happen.
Farns has to knock it off with the pick off attempt. when was the last time he picked someone off?
Farnsworth makes me chain-smoke.
Too late.
Just had the radio on, can someone alert John Sterling that the game is 9 innings not 8. He said the winning run was on second.
Green Tea
I don’t have the stats in front of me, so I’m just going on my feel, but I’d take Proctor as the 8th inning guy. From what I see, outside from an occassional meltdown he’s the best about not giving up walks and hits. Bruney is best when you need a strikeout. But yeah, Farnsworth scares me every time out.
Love how Todd Jones and Wickman are considered decent closers and barely ever get a 1-2-3 inning, while Farnsworth is any 8th inning guy who gets the job done most of the time. I really don’t care if he loads the bases every inning and gives up 0 runs.
its amazing that Farns & Gibbons can both strive to look more douchy than usual this year.
can someone find out the last time that Kyle had a clean inning?
“Farns has to knock it off with the pick off attempt. when was the last time he picked someone off?”
Gotta show some level of concern. What I hate are pitchers who cant throw to first then throw a good strike to the plate immediately after. It’s like they screw up their mechanics after the pickoff attempt.
lol bbb
Farnsworth: 0 runs. All that matters.
Greg he has over a 5.00 era. that is not giving up no runs.
Woohoo Farnsy!
Kyle Farnsworth. Pitching him in the 8th inning is like eating a Puffer fish: maybe it kills you, maybe it don’t.
Greg,
Farnsworth can’t pitch more than one inning and can’t go back to back days. He is pitching to an over 5 ERA. He only has 8 holds. He hardly inspires confidence. I admit there are worse options, but you can’t really say he’s done a decent job this year.
So either the Yankees win or the Orioles have a walk off win which is not what we need right now. Lets end it in regulation please.
Holy crap. No runs from Farnsworth.
the problem, Greg, is that Farns rarely doesn’t allow a run. He’s getting better, but I’d have no problem if he let men on base and gave up 0 runs. The problem is that he gives up runs.
I like Proctor as a bridge to the 8th inning, but he can definitely pitch more than one inning, so I woudlnt’ want to label him as an 8th inning guy and then not allow him to pitch multiple innings when need be. Aside from his occasional bad days, I like Bruney. I’d like to see if he could be the 8th inning man.
Phew, he got it done. He just likes to rile us up.
And here’s ARod’s old buddy Chris Ray!
That was scary for me..
Lets hope the bats can get it together and we don’t have to destroy the bullpen again (as well as my hopes of getting to sleep semi-early tonight)
If Farnsworth makes you uneasy, try being a Detroit fan. Or Braves fan. Jones and Wickman are roller coasters. Borowski in Cleveland isn’t so great either. Men on. Base hits. Difference is Farny does a lot to himself with walks.
We need a nice win! We could use this right now!
I can’t believe the Tigers are losing to the Rangers two nights straight.
Cairo also hasn’t played full-time since ’04. And I’m not saying he’s a full-time player or an all-star. The question was asked why Phillips and Basak aren’t playing. I’m saying at this moment in time, Cairo’s still a better option than Andy phillips or basak and is earning his playing time day-by-day.
Must wins at this point. Got to have this game.
I hate to say this (because I hate Dave Roberts) – but wouldn’t it be great to have a guy like that on the bench we can put in now to steal a couple bases and rattle the pitcher
Who would have thought that the only runs through the 8th inning for us tonight would come off the bat of Johnny Damon? Definitely not me, not very inspiring when your DH is barely holding up a .250 batting average.
Walk for HIP HIP. Too bad arod just had his ab.
What the heck was that!! Why did they bunt!!
Ted Lilly or Igawa? Is that even a question? If anyone says Igawa they aren’t baseball knowledgeable and are in the far east makreting departments.
A lefty who throws hard and has proven success in the AL East or a guy our own GM says is a 5th starter type.
Please. With decent SP in April/May this team is 10 games over 500.
What kills me about Farnsworth is he’d do such a better job out there if not for his man crush on his slider. That’s why he makes me angry..he COULD pitch great but he seems to just be missing some part of the mental makeup. The engine’s running, but ain’t nobody behind the wheel.
Dave K
We have that guy. His name is Kevin Thompson. Joe won’t use him though. There was a perfect opportunity Saturday in the 11th and instead Abreu was bunting!
Jorge keeps walking and getting out at second. It’s sad.
Chris Ray and Joe Borowski are both old friends of A-Rod’s. To a degree, so it’s Papelbon now
See I don’t understand things like this. He just walked the guy before, and you bunt!! WHY??
Might be going out on a limb here…. but, I think Greg was just referring to the 0 runs in that inning, not Farns’ ERA.
22/33 games he hasn’t allowed a run, with horrible defense behind him, one of the worst calls in the history of the game (seattle) and hes always been a slow starter. Proctor has 27/38 games hasn’t allowed a run, only marginally better.
“not very inspiring when your DH is barely holding up a .250 batting average.”
actually our DH is on the DL.
Cashman did build the worst bench in the game. No speed. No defensive replacements. Just cheap guys making the min. The payrolls at 200 mill. Whats 225? Wouldn’t it be nice to have a Jeff Conine on there? Maybe a Roberts to play the OF and steal a few?
Am I watching the Devil Rays? Oh, wait, the Devil Rays are a better team than the Yanks. WTF, Can’t even execute a sacrifice bunt. This is little league stuff.
YankeeJosh – I agree. Obviously the guy isn’t as fast as Roberts but he is certainly a good option
And something about watching Thompson’s at-bats – I don’t know- I just like the guy’s approach at the plate
And thats why you dont give up outs until the guy proves he can throw strikes.
Another walk!! And as someone else pointed out, if you’re going to bunt that you PR for JORGE!! Jorge isn’t fast everyone knows that, you need speed!!
And even if you’re not going to PR for Jorge (which you should if you’re going to bunt).. at least PH for Cano who I’m not sure I ever remember being asked to Sac-Bunt
Despite themselves, the Yanks actually have a runner in scoring position with one out. I’ll be amazed if they get the runner home.
This reminds me of that tie game in Chicago where they got hot bc Abreu had a big late double. Lets see what happens.
I hate bunting. It is worthless. Steal a base. Let the guys swing the bats. This NL type ball is hard to watch.
Luckly Melky slid hard, otherwise that would have been a dp. What a shock!
Again, the game potentially lies in the hands of Cairo.. A 3-Hit game for him does seem like asking a lot
And…nothing.
can someone get a hit with men in scoring position….great hustle bobby but we wanted a hit
Yeah. I am NOT a fan of the bunting. If there were no bunt, perhaphs we’d only have 1 out right now.
STOP LEAVING A MAN ON 3RD!
“No speed. No defensive replacements.”
Mekly Cabrera. supposed to be a backup before Johnny D’s injury woes. Good thing we wasted time signing Cairo, oh wait…… he’s been pretty good lately too, also starting because of injuries.
Our bench has proved more valuable than we all thought. The bench we have now is called AAA call-ups and a weak offensive catcher with good defense and great game calling.
Cairo is not a good player.
And here comes Scott. Poor guy always in these situations.
jeez miggy
When Miguel Cairo has the biggest AB of the game and is allowed to hit, you know you have no bench.
We deserve this when we have Cairo playing 1b. It’s just disgusting. Shades of the Tony Womack in CF days.
Can we please comment on how Cairo has failed to get the guy home from third for the 2nd straight time? Blank check Teixiera.
And therein lies the abject horror of having Cairo playing everyday and ZERO bench. Even if you WANTED to pinch hit for him, there is nobody with even a hint of a chance of getting a hit there.
All I have to say is – f you all for saying Bernie was useless to the team. Don’t dare tell me this couldn’t have gone another way.
Ridiculous baseball. You cannot refuse to score runs like this anymore. Getting the runner in from third is like pulling teeth right now with NY. Like Saturday’s game should have been won by the 4th inning, we should be holding AT LEAST a 3-2 lead with MO coming in for the bottom of the 9th.
The Yanks just left Ray off the hook.
Look at the bright side – If all goes well we should hopefully get A-Rod up next inning for the Game Winner
Here’s to hoping Proctor can shut them down
And one more thing — I feel really bad for Pettitte.. I know what a good guy he is and veteran, etc. but he has got to be beyond frustrated by this point
Meanwhile in Scranton, Shelley Duncan is raking the ball……
Now we have to suffer through Proctor blowing the game – because Mariano is rotting in the pen
Abreu is worthless. Isn’t Kevin Thompson at least a viable option?
Just catching up…
I was so angry when they traded Lilly, that for years I kept a copy of the irate email I wrote to a friend at the time where I said it was a stupid trade that they would regret. And considering that Weaver was a disaster that led to further disasters as they tried to make up for him, I feel I was right. So when Lilly was available this winter, yeah, I would have liked him back. Is he the world’s greatest pitcher? No. Is 40 million too much? Probably, but that was the market. However, he’s a pro, he had AL East experience, always pitched well against Boston (especially when he was in Oakland), and wasn’t scared of NY. So count me in the camp of those who wish he was the #4 or 5 in the rotation.
Just for info–there is a Hustler club on the far west side. No, never been! I just run in Hudson River Park. It’s on the West Side Hwy, somewhere in the 50s. It has this tacky, fake stucco, presumably “decadent Rome” type facade. What I love, though, is that there used to be a stable for the hansom cabs’ horses in the same building, and I just can’t believe that the smell o’ horse has been completely eradicated. I wouldn’t be surprised if the strippers go a little heavy on the perfume there…
Torre wouldn’t even put in Basak to hit for Proctor.
He’s going to pinch hit for Cairo???
The bench is dead weight. They may as well send him down and call up another pitcher.
Ya know – the top of the lineup is up next inning. Why not give Mo an inning so we can at least get the top of our order up for one more time. Then you can bring in Proctor.
Mariano needs to be in here right now.
Bunting has its place, but not with a runner on first and No outs. The best time to bunt is when there’s first and second and no outs. It gets a runner to third and puts two in scoring position. But not there with Jorge running.
Is Michael Kay trying to jinx Proctor?
hey, look at the bright side, at least Mo will be fresh for September. FT.
Umm Russell
Tell Bernie hes worthless for not having the class to come to camp and compete for a job among the likes of Phelps, Phillips, Basak and Duncan. Real heavyweights.
He shows up on day one and right now hes getting 600 at bats.
Real smart move Bernie.
does joe torre know you can use your closer in a tied game when you are the road team?
ummm, Bernie sucks as a pinch hitter. You want him and his wet noodle and lost a step wheels in center?
Mariano should have been in on Saturday in the 7th inning of that game. That was when it needed saving.
Andrea that shouldn’t shock you. Kay is Mr. Jinx. He loves to jinx the team.
Yeah, absolutely no idea why Mo isn’t out there right now. Craziness.
Also, I think we should ease up on Cairo a little bit…I know we’re all frsutrated about that last out but remember if Miggy isn’t on base when Johnny comes up to bat, this game isn’t tied right now…
Proctor walks the lead off man. Is everyone gonna call for his head now?
Bernie would have been the everyday DH and played some right and left. He would have played every single day.
Hmmmmm Bernie or Phillips????
I wish Bernie were around to DH/PH. But it just didn’t happen. So then you’ve got to find an alternative.
Leadoff walk – game over.
First ken says it is clearly outside. than he says it was close. So which is it?
ESPN.com seems to be having tech problems with gameday and the scoreboard. It still shows Posada at bat
Now Patterson will steal second and third and score easily. I’d be shocked if that’s not what happens…
Something tells me they won’t execute a bunt as poorly as Cano
who’s batting Yankees or Baltimore
so Bernie DH’s for 2 mil and Damon pinch hits for his 13? Bernie was a great and beloved Yankee. Then he didn’t show up to camp.
Do they really need to bunt with Patterson’s speed?
“Hmmmmm Bernie or Phillips????”
When did Bernie become an infielder?
Rick–Bernie please!!!
I think I was literally fiending for his bat in the lineup vs all those LHPs this weekend.
Everybody observe the art of blowing a game
Why does everyone fail to remember the Astros jumping over something like 8 teams to make the wild card! Why isn’t it possible for the Yankees to do it?
If the Proctor takes the loss, Rivera will pitch tomorrow, no matter what, because he needs the work. It’s insane!
TJ
close the browser and reopen. that should fix it. its the bottom of the 9th.
TJ-Baltimoreis batting.
‘Why does everyone fail to remember the Astros jumping over something like 8 teams to make the wild card! Why isn’t it possible for the Yankees to do it?”
Because they don’t manufacture runs well and they don’t win close games.
Proctor should just balk 3 times on purpose and get this over with…..
Thanks
use MLB.com’s Gameday ESPN’s sucks
It’s always terrific to put the leadoff guy hitting a buck ten on in the 9th. And hey, he has speed too!
Great idea keep pitching out with a guy who cant throw strikes
I hope the yanks have alotta WD-40, cuz right now, Bernie is as rusty as the Tin Man.
UGH
Why does every other team have the luck!??
WHY IS RIVERA NOT PITCHING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!
I HATE THIS TEAM
Who is this “Mariano” person?
Heres all your guys 8th inning pitcher. Doing so much better then Farnsworth
I knew this would happen. As soon as I said I prefered Proctor to Farnsworth.
I suck. I’m the opposite of Jennifer.
Does Torre have money on the O’s?
Just makes no sense. Torre mismanaged this pitching situation. What good is Mo to this team if he never pitches. Nuts… friggin nuts.
Let’s see if the concept of getting a hit with RISP is completely foreign to the Baltimore hitters as well…
Nice play scottie!! Oh he could have gotten him at second.
John Sterling:
“If you’re gonna walk the lead-off hitter, you probably deserve to lose the game”
PROCTOR THROW THE BALL TO 2ND BASE
A gift out!
Wait. That play right there–what Proctor just did–that’s why I prefer him to Farnsworth. He’d be too concerned about breaking his pretty little glasses.
HOW MANY BRAIN FARTS DOES THIS TEAM HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Roberts was almost at 2nd when he caught it… oh well.
how stupid is this team??Proctor had the guy at 2nd.. they are impossable to watch…
that was pattersons 13 BB, he is Cano like…
Dave he said that again? I can’t stand Sterling! Isn’t he a broadcaster for the Yankees? Could you see another broadcasters saying that about their team?
Not a good match up now. Markakis hits brain fart well.
Yea I’m with Andrea- there is something about Proctor. He is more of a gamer- I get the impression from watching him that he actually cares what happens unlike some other guys
I enjoyed Kenny Singleton immediately telling me proctor was hurt and that was why he didnt throw. Kenny can apparently dianose injuries from hundreds of feet away and oh by the way proctors still pitching. Kenny did not mention this proctor being hurt anymore
TAKE HIM OUT TAKE HIM OUT.
So now we live and die with Proctor – again. 16 pitches so far to get ONE out. This is a recipe for complete disaster.
Jennifer-
Yea, for a minute I thought I heard him wrong.
And he walks the bases loaded…
THROW A STRIKE
This is ridiculous.
How does someone not throw a strike with two on in the 9th and one out?
Great job Proctor.
I’ll go ahead and be the optimist and make the call
Ground ball DP
It’s hard to believe we are watching the team that won 9 games in a row… Where did that team go?
Where is Mariano????
Didn’t we learn any lessons on Saturday?
I SMELL HIM BLOWING IT!
another nice loss
Ugh. 20 pitches and he stays. Unreal.
well, this all looks promising
It is absolutely deplorable and unbelievable that Mo isn’t pitching right now. I don’t even know what to say.
Oh god
This team had chances to score again and didn’t!! we shouldn’t be in this position right now!
This is why outscoring teams by 40 runs means nothing and why they are out of the playoffs.
Torre blew this. Should have Mariano in there…
i hate them all
Jennifer–say it. say double play!!!
Why is the infield in. Dont you go for a DP in this spot?
does it really matter that it didnt hit him? the game is over – proctor will find a way to lose
He tried to get hit by the pitch.
This bullpen is a joke. I can’t even laugh at this though.
Proctor can’t throw a strike while Rivera sits in the bullpen.
Scottie throws a dp ball.
One good thing…At least Pettitte won’t take the loss this time.
I need some cigarettes and prozac, STAT!
i’m getting an ulcer.
hahahahahaha 3-2… soo over
will this be a ball 4 loss?
gotta walk this run in. Only way it could go for the Yanks if we are to lose here.
I’m saying it right now, I’d rather him throw one down the middle than walk the guy – make him hit the ball – do not walk in the game
Pete
Ask Joe or Cash why Rivera remains on this team.
Walk.. game over.
Let’s promote the entire trenton thunder team, and demote the Yankees to double a
uck
YIPPPEEEEEEEEEEEE GOODBYE TORRE
Proctors line…
1/3 3 walks, 1 hit… loses game. F you Proctor
This is all very par for course.
That’s terrific.
Wow.
he should have been taken out after the first walk.
I somehow still like him better than Farsnworth. Imagine that.
Ok. I’m done with this team. This is a waste of time. Anyone that says this bunch is winning over 85 games is clueless.
Predictable. Just another awful loss. Meanwhile Britton and Edwar rot away in the minors. Not saying they will be great but this is certainly not working yet they refuse to try anything new with this pen. Cle and Det will probably lose and we dont make up any ground.
Pathetic.
I keep hearing that little guy from Police Academy screaming “PROCTOR”!!!
I know the ump doesnt owe Proctor anything but where the hell is that pitch. HOw can you take that 3-2 as a hitter. sheesh
I dare someone to tell me that blowing this team up (A-Rod included) and going with a youth movement wouldn’t be more fun than this bunch of suck.
In proctor’s defense- he’s only pitched every game this year. Just like vizcaino, bruney etc…
torre needs to go. any one of us could manage the game better tonight.
wow????
oh well, next year!
“I’m saying it right now, I’d rather him throw one down the middle than walk the guy – make him hit the ball – do not walk in the game”
Dave – he cant even throw the ball down the middle… that last pitch was meant for the middle, trust me.
wow, that was absolutely pathetic
What a putrid pile of steaming crap this team is.
That’s two losses in 3 games when he should have had his best pitcher in the game.
The 9th is Mo’s. The 10th is Mo’s. You deal with 11, 12 etc later.
Torre won’t survive the week at this pace.
Good times. Good luck to Proctor coming back to the Bronx in his next appearance.
WHEN IS JOE TORRE GOING TO GET FIRED?! WHEN?!
really how much do we have to bear.. make some moves…
he walks a leadoff guy who has the discipline of cano.
then should have a dp but was showing his mom in the stands that he caught the ball and then to tap it off another walk.
2 – 13 in 1 run games.
the formula they are using is not FFFFFFFFF working…try to change it you friggin morons..
did anyone really think the result would be any different.. good clutchi hitting down the stretch from jorge, abreu, cano, and damon..
different day abut same fffffffffffff story//I have had enough
4-2 against the orioles? That just screams out contender.
Torre needs to be fired immediatley.
Cashman needs to put together a bullpen that can throw strikes.
Proctor needs to go stick his head in a toilet. That was atrocious.
Nice. Another one slips away while the greatest reliever in baseball history just idles in the bullpen. It’s getting to where Mo should just walk out there on his own in the 9th and forcibly remove whatever useless scrub Torre has out there so we could WIN once in a while!
Also, I can only surmise that Torre is now TRYING to get fired.
Last but not least, Proctor can blow me where the Pampers is. WTF, THROW. A. STRIKE!!!
i’m an optimistic person, but I cannot stand walks by relievers and walking in the winning run in the bot of the 9th is sickening.
like dave k said, i’d rather groove a FB and make him hit it…
*Da Bronx is Burning*
Sick to my tummy with this now. A long summer just got longer.
This is the worst loss I can imagine. Everytime I see Proctor in a clost game ala Redsox, he blows it. No Rivera, Joe blows this game.. I am ashamed right now as a fan….
That reminds me of Yogi Berra’s last game as manager. Joe Crowley gamely pitches 8 2/3 but loads the bases and walks in the winning run against the White Sox. Yogi is fired the next day.
I don’t even know what to think anymore. I’m just staring at my tv.
Changes need to be made! Maybe it is time for Joe to go. This team is so unmotivated! we had chances to couldn’t do anything!
Who called the bunt on cano? Joe or Donnie?
And if we change managers, i don’t want to see Donnie. He will be the exact same manager as Joe. We need JOE G. someone needs to light a fire under their butts! This is not acceptable.
plus i have two tickets i need to sell to a game, and it looks like right now i’ll have to eat them!
promote Edwar and Britton.
If this keeps up for 1 more week- It’s time to do a fire-sale… I don’t care if the “Yankees don’t do that”
If you are not going to make the playoffs anyway- start rebuilding now.
Proctor was off 3 days do not give me the tired crap..
mariano has not pitched in 7 days …………………
Good call pete, sadly, gotta go to Mo there, let him throw 2 innings and see if this sorry bunch of whiners can push across a run
proctor sucks he should be dfa’d.
torre should have been fired years ago
Can I say I told you so yet? This season is over. Best to trade everyone and rebuild.
You know what bothers me most about this loss is where is MO. Once again the ace reliever sits out in the bullpen while we lose. This is just like the beginning of the year I believe Mo has not worked since Friday which is 4 days off and had not worked for 4 days prior to that. So the next time he comes in if he isnt sharp it will be for lack of pitching, meanwhile Scott Proctor once again has his arm fall off from oversue.
Part of this loss is again on Joe. Everyone could tell that Proctor was going to walk that guy in. Why not give Mo a shot in that spot.
Sorry ESPN seems to have problems tonight. Please give me a quick update I’m so irritated at this..i’m at work and this is my only means
Quite simple.
Either Torre is fired or I’m not watching this time until he’s gone.
Ryan, I am with you. At least then you will see some effort and not lame performances like this.
Again, why is Rivera still on this team? Doesn’t someone with his experience deserve more than just throwing bull pen sessions? Why have a closer who is as dominant as Mo, spitting seeds in the pen?
Torre, you have extended your stay. You are no longer managing, rather guessing and hoping something will work.
Rivera could have thrown 2 innings tonight he has pitched once in a week once… Torre get an F-ing clue you blew two games in 3 days… oh and stop bunting with people who have a 0% chance with getting the job done aka Cano and Abreu.. and to Cashman hey JACKA$$ if we had a decent backup catcher we could have pinch run for Jorge and maybe someone with speed wouldn’t have gotten thrown out!!!!!
worse game they have lost.. they have about 10 of them this yr.. this is just part of the friggin collection……………..
D-0-N-E
Horrible. Torre makes two poor decisions, Cano bunting (Look what Roberts did in the same situation), brings in Proctor for the 9th. He can’t even feild his position properly by not going for the double play. Offense can’t get anyone in. One of the worst losses I’ve seen all season.
You can’t take anything positive from this. This was putrid.
3 walks in the 9th. Unfathomable.
Remember there was a time when we used to laugh at other teams when this happened to other teams? It’s not so funny anymore.
SJ44 – Sorry, Jeter has got to stay.
Boy, I’m just checking out the blog for the first time tonight as I was watching the blog and Pete had every point correct. WHY IS CANO BUNTING!?!?
WHY IS PROCTOR COMING IN THERE?!?!?
I love Torre but its time to go, Joe.
Man, I am so sad. Anger hasnt set in yet.
Torre is absolutely out of his mind. There is no rational reason for this kind of move. The team stinks enough without these daily weaverlike moves by our insane manager.
Forget about trading AROD. We should trade Rivera. He is of no use to us. At least not while Torre is leading this team into oblivion.
I am really not enjoying being a yankee fan with torre at the helm.
Losing with glaring managerial blunders hurts more than anything. It is almost as if we didn’t try.
Joe won’t be fired but he is definitely not coming back.
Pathetic loss on Jeter’s birthday. Nice gift for him. Proctor needs a proctologist !! Steaming at this team right now!!
Scott Just pitched 8 innings in the last 5 days (something like that) can you say over worked. Joe burns out certain guys. And he is one of them.
Scott Just pitched 8 innings in the last 5 days (something like that) can you say over worked. Joe burns out certain guys. And he is one of them.
If you don’t think this game was Torre’s fault then you are fooling yourselves
unless they make some moves this is overOVER…
there bullpen SUCKS…………………….
try the skinny dude and the fat guy………
Pitch maraino once in a while…………
I am shaking my head as I change the channels and watch teams steal games here and there. We have become the devil rays……………..
Before I sign off for the night. To those of you saying the season is over and the Yanks are not making playoffs. Don’t forget Ernest Hemingway’s wise words circa 1952 (I think?)…”Have faith in the Yankees, my son!”
BBB, you’re my favorite.
It’s getting to where Mo should just walk out there on his own in the 9th and forcibly remove whatever useless scrub Torre has out there so we could WIN once in a while!
I COMPLETELY AGREE. Having Mo just watch while that goes down is pathetic. He’s shown that he can pitch more tha an inning. The good teams have learned to get base hits off Mo, but these are the freaking Orioles.
I just puked up my dinner. And my lunch. And my breakfast.
We’re an 81 win team. That’s it. And we’re going to lose A-Rod. And we’re going to “rebuild”. Going to make for some very boring summers the next 4 years. Because we’ve done such a great job with kids and the farm system since 1996.
Torre is fired now or I’m not watching this team anymore.
I can’t watch this team with him as field manager anymore. It is killing me nightly.
The really inexcuseable part is the 4 pitch walk to Markakis that loaded the bases. You just got a big out on the bunt. Loading the bases leaves no room for error. Hernandez had a good at bat to work the walk. But when you get to a point here it’s grove one or walk in the winning run, it’s a near impossible situation.
No need to be ignorant and play one person for this loss when it’s obvious that blame goes all around.
-Torre not using Mo.(Might be a reason, maybe Mo flared up?)
-Cairo not getting the run in
-Proctor for the second time this season walking in the winning run
-Can we score more than 2 runs please?
That brings me to the daily Call up Chris “GREAT” Britton Now Announcement!
What the heck are you waiting for Cashman? Bring up “Great” Britton and Edwar Ramirez.
nevermind I can tell by reading the comments this wasn’t good. Orioles don’t even have a good record? Rockies are losing. How on earth did we get out of sync.
Perhaps Steinbrenner is really dead, and they’ve just been covering for him lately…’cuz if Steinbrenner still had any sort of pulse, he would have done something to shake up this travesty by now.
I always had a soft spot for Joe, but I think he has completely lost it…He has just made so many questionable moves this year…It’s hard to see how he still “has it.” Of course, firing him won’t change how bad this team is (because he doesn’t bat or pitch), but it still probably needs to happen, nonetheless.
I am not going to watch this garbage.. in the past when they stunk they had no talent they had kevin maas, mike gallego, and other junk..
now they are stupid, play bad fundamentals, are unclutch and suck……………………
So is it safe to say the Yankees are again lacking fire, desire, effort, etc.
What are the odds that Trenton could beat this team?
How RIDICULUS was leaving Proctor in there??????????????
You have to bring Mo in there. It was obvious that Proctor has NO control.
Oh, wait…we were saving Mo for the 17th inning.
The problem isnt that Torre lost the game for us, its that he didnt help to win. The main reason we lost is because we scored 2 runs. But a good manager should help his team win when its not at its best. The Cano bunt was ridiculous. Proctor instead of Mo in a must win was ridiculous. At some point doesnt Torre have to start actively helping us win?
I really don’t mind losing.
Really don’t.
When I have my best out there.
This past 3 games. Not our best.
How doesn’t Mariano even throw a pitch here?
And all we here is how he needs work.
I’m sorry, but if this isn’t a team in desperate need of changes, I don’t know what is.
They don’t hit. They can’t pitch. They don’t win.
Cashman HAS to do something now or they are collectively writing this season off. I don’t care if it’s promoting Duncan and Britton. He has to change the makeup of this team.
We’ll be lucky to leave Baltimore a .500 team
Why aren’t they using Ramirez?
Nice to see Mo saved for a “save” that never comes. Again.
This is probably my biggest issue with Torre in that he NEVER learns from his mistakes, whether it’s playing the infield in with Mo on the mound or leaving in subpar pitchers (hi, Jeff Weaver!) while Mo rots on the bench.
It’s inexcusable. He really needs to go.
This team is not well coached. The players do not play fundamental baseball well. If you catch a bunted ball, you should throw it to second base for the double play. Period. If you want to be pissed at something- be pissed at that.
Every big league player should practice bunting. How many games have the yankees lost because they do not know how to bunt the lead off guy to second base?
The los angeles angels play fundamental baseball well- and that is why they are in first place (along with good pitching).
Get rid of the overvalued geezers- promote some young talent, and get a coach who teaches fundamentals.. like GIRARDI!!!
I suppose you can fault Joe for not using Mo in the 9th. But assume Mo got out of the bottom of the 9th and the Yanks went ahead in the top of the 10th. Mo would have been asked to go back out for the bottom of the 10th. If Mo didn’t get the side out, Joe would have been 2d guessed for using his closer in the 9th on the road in a tie, instead of using Proctor in the 9th and saving Mo for the 10th.
It’s irrelevant anyway. This team isn’t going anywhere with this level of play.
somebody has to take the blame for how bad this bullpen is in big spots. the walks are absolutely out of control. guidry, cashman, torre, somebody. how you can blow two out of three games by having the bullpen walk the ballpark is UNBELIEVABLE. myers and bruney 3 walks in one inning saturday. proctor 3 walks in one inning tonight. HOW CAN YOU WIN THIS WAY?! absolute joke, throw strikes.
mlb.tv was out for me. Maybe Cano was bunting because they had more of a chance to move the runner over (I’m assuming there was one). Cano strikes out too much. Does that sound logical? Can’t wait to here the “reason” for leaving Proctor in when he obviously was losing it.
Actually just read that Torre said he saving Rivera for the all important Boston series in August. Doesn’t want to go into Boston without his closer and have a tired arm.
Whew!… I knew there was a game plan. Praise Jesus and pass the ammunition. The Yankees will rise again.
why does no one ask the hard questions to torre, and caashman…………..
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enough of this crap….. we all see the problems….they can’t trade much of the overpriced offensive talent but they can try to improve the pen………………………….
SJ44,
This team is playing so badly now and has for most of this year. But this is also basically the same team that won the AL East and was so hot towards the end of last year before the Tigers series. I know a lot of players are having down years and the bench isn’t as deep, but still, that’s the reason I have some hope for this season. But it certainly doesn’t look good.
I wouldn’t completely trash the team. There’s enogh here to retool. Wait for the right deals to come up and do them if possible.
mel–cano was bunting with Posada on 1st. It was just a bad idea.
Outside of the Torre loss, the offense deserves blame. 2 runs in that stadium against that bullpen is terrible. They are not a great offense. Its either 11 runs or 2. Hardly any gray area. Some consistency would be nice.
Why not have a big time fire sale?
They got veterans with not real big deals here. They can totally restock their system with Grade A prospects.
Matsui, Posada, Abreu, etc
They can get a bounty for them. Then in the off season they will have 120 mill to spend on the team.
given the time of the season and the standings, every game is a must-win for the yankees. obviously, they won’t win em all, but they are must wins. especially after losing 5 of the last 6. so when your closer is rested, you bring him in for the 9th. i don’t care if it’s a tie game on the road.
and even if we give joe the benefit of the doubt, and say that starting proctor for the 9th is ok, you bring in mo once there are a couple of guys on. you want to lose with your best guy on the mound in that situation. not with a vomit-inducing performance by scott proctor.
on the bright side, joe’s ineptitude is starting to turn more of his supporters towards supporting his dismissal…
screw jeter and his birthday lets be honest they do not deserve to win.
they are stupid, no fundamentals, are not hitting in the clutch, and of course there trademark walking runners out of the pen.
about 3 yrs ago the dodger pen stunk, they changed almost the whole pen during the season and turned things around ..WHY can’t we do that…………
Betcha Joe blames:
-the the long flight back east
-adjusting to Eastern time zone again
-coming down from the ‘Rockie Mountain High
…for this loss.
This game was really Baltimore 2 + Torre 1 = 3, Yankees 2 because:
1. Clueless Joe gives up an out after a leadoff walk late in a tie game (Cano failed sac bunt after Posada draws a leadoff walk). He is so arrogant, he thinks one run is all he’ll need to beat Baltimore. B.t.w. time to trade Cano. He can’t hit for average or power, steal bases, lay down bunts, or get on base. His 2005-6 was a fluke. He’s Soriano with a better glove but without everything Soriano did. Trade him while his value is high which it still is after his 2006.
2. Clueless Joe has Proctor in the 9th and not Mo who like Peter Abraham said has pitched only 1 2/3 innings in 9 days. Proctor should be traded a.s.a.p. because he is not only a racist, but he can’t throw strikes on a consistent basis.
At this point the Yankees should just trade relievers and bench players player-for-player and see what comes of it. If it’s a daily parade of new guys coming in, so be it. I mean I’d be thrilled if they got even just a #4 OF cuz who knows if the guy comes here, is given a start, goes 4 for 4 then on a 20 for 40 tear in 10 games? Trade for a guy a team is tired of, maybe he’s good for the Yanks.
The O’s manager Trembley said he’s managing like he has nothing to lose. How ’bout the Yanks make trades thinking like that? You can’t tell me there isn’t a team out there not interested in Proctor, Bruney, Cairo, Thompson, etc.
I think Cano would rather bunt and make an out than take a walk. He must be allergic or something.
Nice move whomover is using my name. I didn’t post that.
Must be nice to go thru life being a gutless moron.
You don’t need to speak for me. I am quite capable of doing it myself.
This season is over. Accept that and deal with it so we can rebuild. They got no pitching. They got no hitting. They need to start over. Accept it.
TJ – don’t use ESPN, use MLB.COM.
Torre is undefendable at this point.
He deserves to be fired.
Yankee Josh,
There is no one who will take our garbage. Unless the pitching talent in AA and AAA is dealt, there is nothing beautiful about what the Yankees have to offer in a trade.
How are you going to blame Proctor? The guy is obviously over worked. He threw over 80 pitches in 3 days and had two days off. Nobody expected him to be sharp. He was hitting 93MPH on his fastball and when he is right he hits 96MPH.
The bottom line is that the managers job is to put his team in the best position to win, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY DO. Joe Torre, in a 2-2 game, left Mariano Rivera on the bench. Just like he let Scott Proctor hit instead of pinch hitting and bringing Mariano Rivera in San Francisco.
This guy can’t do anything unless he has a roster of All Stars at his disposal. He was a horrible manager before coming to New York where he inherited Stick Michael and Buck Showalter’s dynasty. I don’t care how many people like him, FIRE HIM.
its just so sad to watch a close/tied game and really KNOW that the Yanks are going to lose. Meanwhile, the holes in our team and discrepancies are too big to ignore. Damon’s nonsense, Cano’s torrid plate-work, Abreu’s returning slump, the goddamn bullpen….hell, you name it, we got it.
Obviously massive rebuilding wont happen, the minors wont be liquidated for trades(i pray) or brought up to the majors just for some wins.
Maybe something will happen between now and the AS break, maybe. Prudence is the question right now. Do we follow the old Yankee plan and buy, buy, buy when the season is so close to out of our grasp?
What would be the point? There arent enough redeeming qualities about the present team to warrant a big buy. The only thing i can see happening of any worth is pursuing a long term 1B on par with Texeira and yes, really changing around the pen. Besides that, what options are there, realistically?
One word. Wow. We may finish behind the Orioles at this rate.
Hard to believe we’ve only won one game since playing the Mets
Prediction…Bedard will toss a complete game shutout tomorrow night.
Guys, I only wrote the post tonight condeming the guy who used my name. I was out all night and just got back for the 8th inning.
So, whomever is posting prior to the 10:37pm post, wasn’t me.
Overworked? Then he should be asking for a day off.
That’s no excuse. I could live with him giving up 3 hits. Not 3 walks.
You could get a haul if you traded Proctor now too with everyone needing pen help.
Face it. As Yankee fans, we are incredibly spoiled. We think it is our birthright that our team makes the playoffs every year… NOw we know what its like for the other 18 to 20 teams or so left in the dark.
We had a great run… 1995-2006.. Rest in peace, George. Rest in peace.
Thanks Deep I’ll start using that from now on. Espn was still showing 2-2 about three minutes ago
I am the real SJ44. Not any impostor.
Again, the punk that’s using my name is at it again.
Always nice to see the trolls come out for the night. Too bad they don’t have the guts to use their own name.
This is my last post tonight so, anybody posting as SJ44 ain’t me.
Stuart – Because this team is in love with a bunch of mediocre at best relievers for some unknown reason. They have 2 potential decent relievers in the minors and neither of them can get a real shot. I mean give britton and edwar a shot.
The only good part of this day is that Boston is having its own nightmare. Gabbard just used 38 pitches to walk in 2 runs, and hit a batter to get another in. Oh, and Garnett may be taking up permanent residence in Malibu.
Yuniesky just ended the carnage. Double play. 43 pitches in the first inning for Gabbard.
Trenton, the other 18 to 20 teams would FIRE an incompetent manager.
How does a team go from playing the best baseball in the game one week to playing the worst in the game the next?
The offense was at a season high and heading to Colorado!!
Good night, all. And to the all the punks. The season is over. Get ready for 2008.
Cano still has value. I would certainly consider dealing him if the right deal came up. Abreu also could have some value down the line. And if it doesn’t work this year you see what you can do in the off-season.
I am still wondering why this team can’t find a way to manufacture runs. Get em on, get em over, get wm in. The talent is there to do it.
Who cares what the Sox do now?
We’re behind 5 teams in the WC race! We won’t sniff the Sox again this year.
“Proctor should be traded a.s.a.p. because he is not only a racist, but he can’t throw strikes on a consistent basis.”
wow.
this blog has jumped the shark.
Lets face it, this team does not have it. From the GM to the manager to the players. Pettitte (as long as he wants to stay), Wang, Rivera, Posada, Jeter, Arod and maybe Matsui should be retained. All other are open to trading. The Yanks should be sellers at the deadline and maybe we can rebuild this thing. Hopefully next year we will have Girardi as manager and maybe a new GM. The beginning of the season showed this team colors but was dismissed due to the injuries. Now, once again, the true colors of this team are shining thru and its not pretty. Save Posada, Mo and Jeter there are few on this team who have proven themselves winners so why should we expect to win anyway? Poorly constructed from the start. Hughes, Chamberlin and Tabata should also be protected.
The team can’t find a way to manufacture runs because there’s only one Jeter and only one A-Rod. Clone them and teach them to play the other positions, then maybe we’ll get something cooking.
OKay, guys. I loaded my Bronco with picks, shovels, and smelling salts (ie booze).
Meet me at midnight at Billy’s tomb.
Its funny, SJ44, your posts are so distinctive that i was actually pretty sure that was a troll using your name. I think I spend too much time on this site.
The whole small ball thing is a myth.
We have no power. And they don’t get on base. You need some pop in a lineup. You cannot play for 3 runs with this pitching. This isn’t the 98 Yanks here. When 3 runs would win a game for you.
This team came into the season needing to score 6 a game to win. We all knew that. They did it the last 2 yrs. They had to carry suspect pitching until it righted itself.
And it hasn’t done it. The hitting has been terrible. No one works counts. No one gets on base. No one except for A-Rod hits the ball out.
I really hope Cashman does not mortgage the future for a quick fix.
Yankee Fans let me introduce you to somebody you have not seen for awhile or for some of you…..never met.
Yankee fans, this is Transition year.
Transition year, these are the Yankee fans.
Selling away the young guns for old band-aids is not the way to go.
I’m not giving up on the season or wildcard but Cashman needs to resist making “Kei Igawa” like moves.
The division is ove guys there is no way in hell we are winning the division..
even I am not that delusional…..if the ydo not get rid of garbage like; nieves, myers, phillips, vizcaino(don’t tell me about how good he has done lately Matsui saved him 3 runs), farnsworth, and others they have no chance..
I have been a fan over 35 yrs. I will turn this off if it continues.. Again I will accept losing but stupidity and lack of fundamentals etc, are not bearable..
lose to a team that is more talented then you and I will accept it……..
I just sitting here what garbage and explanations are we going to hear for this. well you know things happen,, it is all bull……He walked the leadoff guy the equivalent of Cano, and then had a double play biut did not look back at the bag..Can he reason? IS he a mental midget????
Almost 80 games and our 8th inning guys are either; kyle, procotr, or vizciano…are you kidding me………………….
Sj has distinctive posts. They are rambling and depressing. Which sets the mood for everyone right now. Thanks.
Trenton Thunder would beat the Yankees at this point.
They would start Joba Chamberlain and move runners over…Their back up catcher would get a 2 out key hit!
This is pitiful…..Its nice to be an optimist for your team…but their also comes a time when you have to say it aint happening.
I love Miguel Cairo..but he does have to get that run in from third.
Andy pitches great again…and has nothing to show for it!!!
86 wins thats my predition…third place……Hows that for ya EDWARD!!!
Someone on this team needs to take control and show some leadership. I am sure there is leadership in that locker room we are not in there but me I would call out guys not in public but behind closed doors. Each member of this team needs to look themselves in the mirror and ask if they are doing everything they can do to make this work. They all have the ability this team is not this bad. I dont mind when you get beat by a good team and you have done everything you can you are not always going to hit and score 11 runs every night BUT when you beat yourselves by mental mistakes (the Melky/Bobby ball), Proctor not throwing to 2nd after he caught the bunt, the mental running mistakes and errors on the West Coast etc ) that is just not acceptable with a team like this day after day
SJ-
look at this way, imitation is sincerest form of flattery, just ask Spartacus.
WAIT, I’m Spartucs!!
Pete, when will the audio be ready… can’t wait to hear Torre’s lame excuse for not using Mo.
Let me guess, he was attending the ESPY’s and did not think that the Orioles posed a problem.
Bright side, Igawa deal does not look as bad as the Zito deal for SF.
If Cashman even thinks about trading Hughes, Joba, or Kennedy he should be fired on the spot.
This season is a lost cause. You do not kill 2008-2011 to try and make a run at 85 wins.
You didn’t see the Sox trade any prospect last yr when they were out of it.
Hes going to have to get lucky again.
Good thing they are losing to the big boys. The class of the leagues in SF and Baltimore.
Two playoff teams.
All the numbers even out over time…
Joe Torre’s Managing Career Record (1977-2007):
Wins: 2,009
Losses: 1,736
Win %: .536
Bring on the Joe Girardi era…
Does the USFL still play summer football ?
its been a while, ya know
Why did no one ask Torre why he didn’t go to Rivera in the 9th?
Pete mentioned it above…he can’t be the only sportswriter questioning this decision.
WHY IS NO ONE ASKING JOE??????
Hey at least they jinks Colorado. They have lost 5 in a row and look just as bad as the Yankees.
I think I’ll slash my wrists after hearing Torre audio from tonight.
Leadership? This team quit in October of last year. We all saw it. They need to trade everyone and rebuild.
It is time. They had a good run. Every run must end.
I’m sending my resume to Brian Cashman. “Proficient in NOT SUCKING THE LIFE OUT OF THE TEAM.” Anyone wanna recommend me for the position of manager?
While he only gave up two runs, Pettite put on 13 runners in 7 innings. That’s anything but “great” against that horrendous lineup he faced.
Every empire comes to an end..
Sabermetrics show the sacrifice bunt is not a good strategy…Cano should have swung the bat. And didn’t the first walk throw up a red flag? Or maybe the 2nd? Torre deserted Proctor out there, he treats the bullpen like crap. He didn’t have his stuff tonight – get him out of there. What a joke.
wow, fake SJ44 and I agree on something.
Bunting with the guy who finished 3rd in the league in hitting last year?
Not bringing your closer into another tie game?
Good job, Joe!
Torre just said in the pregame that Rivera last pitched on Saturday. Nobody had the guts to tell him it was Friday. Does he really think it was Saturday?
ryan–Pettitte always gives up quite a few hits. The walks are disconcerting, but he always gives up hits. He’s not a “no-hitter” type pitcher. But he gets out of it. I have no problem with Andy Pettitte giving up hits.
Yes, let us criticize Andy, it is clearly all his fault for getting into Jams and setting bad examples for the relievers. Andy should be taken before a firing squad.
I’m the real SJ44. This team just needs to be rebuilt. From top to bottom.
Three walk in a one inning of a tie game should get you neutered!
The lack of fundamentals on this team makes it impossible to watch let alone root for this team.
i say dont make a trade that will hurt your future but this losin can help us because we could let some of our prospect get some playin time in august and september RIGHT NOW i dont see this team making it to the post season because wat have we seen that will make us think the yanks could get to the post season
The worst thing about this is that the Yankees pretty much have the same team coming back next year, just a year older. The only changes that could be made would be A-Rod leaving. And if A-Rod leaves, they’re really screwed.
As for the prospects, we only have pitching prospects. Chamberlin, Betances, and Kennedy. We need offense.
Thank you Andy Pettite this is EXACTLY what I was talking about.
Even last years Yankees wouldn’t have given away games like this and Saturday. When a team lets you back in it you have to throttle them and take advantage.
Will the real SJ44 please stand up? (someone had to say it)
Release Proctor. He’s next Armando Benitez
Its funny how you say they quit in October of last year, because thats exactly how I’ve felt since then.
And lets not forget that he had Abrue bunt on Saturday. So his #3 hitter is asked to bunt, the 3rd best average hitter is asked to bunt and statistically bunting is a bad idea even with just ok hitters at bat. Joe has to go.
Pete really needs to have people register on this blog. This is getting out of control. Goodnight all.
They can go out and get 2 Of’s and a 1b. That seems to me like major retooling. They can pick up Abreu’s option on his contract and trade him and sign 2 OF’s to play CF and RF. They need to sign a 1b. And they’re going to sign a ton of pitchers.
I was so glad that Joe Girardi did not except the Birds Job.
It seemed liked it was a done deal,based on sports radio in NY.
But unfortuneatly I think Joe respects Joe too much,and doesnt want to be that guy that replaces Joe T.
I personally dont want to see what happened to Yogi yrs ago, happen to Donnie Baseball!!!
It would be great having Joe G in charge,and possibly Flaherty as a bench coach.
I’m losing hope/confidence by the day here. kathys right. The old Yanks would have found a way to finish off this team. Especially in game 1 of a series.
Pete,
I know that you have a lot on your plate, but is there any way your tech guys could deal with the SJ44 identity thief? It’s getting cluttered, confusing, and lame. Thanks!
newsflash with cano bunting or not does it really matter. he sucks in the clutch..
this season literally is a nightmare..
he is hitting under 200 with RISP..
He needs to get to the ballpark early and learn to bunt, run the bases, and take some pitches..
it is the same old dtory nothing changes.
I am converting to sell. really what are we selling nothing. bring up the young guys, why not??/Shelly DUncan could he do worse the Cairo in the clutch tonight? SUre Duncan may strike out so.. Cairo cannot hit the ball to the warning track under any circumstances…..
the amazing thing is there is no talk about calling up britton ramirez and duncan and getting rid of what garbage…Myers he is garbage, farnsworth is garbage, they have garbage everywhere. the angels have a very limited lineup but there garbage is not garbage……….
the yankees players and many fans are in fantasy land..
we go into the game tommorrow with our 7th and 8th inning people being; proctor, farnsworth, vizciano, myers, and whomever!!!!!!!!!!!really they are going to have different results…..Kyle had a good outing he only put 1 or 2 guys on base, that is considered a good outing for that guy!!!!!!!!!!
“I’m the real SJ44. This team just needs to be rebuilt. From top to bottom.”
False! If you were the real SJ44, your post would have had 7 different paragraphs all with a space in between!
This whole board is a clutter from the losses and trolls and Sox fans.
Yankee bullpen:
11 bases loaded walks issued this year
138 Walks issued this year
BOTH MOST IN THE MAJORS
Proctor used to throw 96-98 now he throws 92 cuz his arm is dead.. put him on the DL and call it dead arm so he gets some rest and call up Ramirez and Britton and send down Basak who has been here for 3 weeks and gotten into a game twice
I have a pretty good idea who’s punking SJ44. An since an idiot isn’t capable of imitation, lacking essential things like wit and ability in the language, this is something far from flattery. Hard to imagine such a sad, little, pathetic life.
The real SJ44 is on the town right now with his best friend A-Rod discussing where he’s going to play next year.
Sigh.
That’s not SJ44.
All his posts must have a minimum of 5 paragraphs.
By the way, Yankeeography Hediki Matsui ad just rolled by on my tele. I love Mats and all but he’s been a Yankee since 03, YES must be getting desperate.
Why don’t you register, hypocrite?
By not registering as you, you open up yourself to be impersonated. Duh.
ok, i’m relatively new to this blog. Is SJ44 a bloglebrity or something? is there a reason someone would be a fake SJ44? I just plain don’t get it!
I really want Chris Britton back. I shed a tear every time he gets sent back down to the minors to “make room” for someone.
The bullpen walks way too many people.
They don’t strike anyone out.
They give up cheap hits.
And the best reliever stays on the bench.
In a must win game.
I hate SJ44 so I think this is funny.
the old yanks are gone.. we have ABreu in Rf, who is paranoid of collisions with people or walls. I give Melky a pass he is 23 yrs old. but let’s be honest Abreu plays a game like a girl.. I apologize to girls for insulting them.. He is soft…………….
the old yanks steal this game and laugh on there way to the dugout now other teams do that to us…………………..
again Weds. we still have the same stellar pen……………do you really expect a different result??????????????????????????
NO way
Hey Ryan….Andy pitched 7 Innings…..To me that is GREAT enough…
Can Kei Igawa do that?? How bout Roger lasting 7 Innings?? Prima Donna pitching past the 6Th????
We know Wang will….
Its SJ if its long, boring, depressing, anti yankee, and completely off his rocker. Glad to see it’s working out for him though. The whole Yanks are finished thing.
SJ is the guy who claimed on here the other night that he’s had a 20 year relationship with Alex Rodriguez. That says it all about the guy. I’m having coffee tomorrow with Chris Basak.
7 innings from a starter and 2 runs is the most you can ask for.
That’s it. We would have begged and killed for starts like that early in the year.
SJ is the guy who claimed on here the other night that he’s had a 20 year relationship with Alex Rodriguez.
Wasn’t A-Rod like 12 20 years ago?
And it wasn’t me pretending to be SJ44. Honest. (But it was kinda funny. And if enough people agree that it was funny then I might reconsider my first sentence.)
Why AAA teams must be real bad Matt Salvo pitches shutouts
Maybe we’ll see a Yankeeography with Miguel Cairo since Cashman cannot find a 1b better than him apparently.
Yes Has a new Yankeeography scheduled for July 4TH it of Miguel Cairo.
“Hey Jamie June 26th, 2007 at 11:06 pm
Why don’t you register, hypocrite?
By not registering as you, you open up yourself to be impersonated. Duh.”
–I’d register if I could. There isn’t a place FOR me to register you idiot. This blog has turned into a @#$#@$ sideshow and it makes me sick. Before you try to make some witty point you @#@# moron, LEARN HOW THE BLOG WORKS!!
That’s why SJ44 is completely out of his mind. But he must be giggling right now watching the yankees self destruct.
curly sue is back!
yanks are playing great baseball, curly sue! enjoy the season
Jamie, relax. I know we’ve had a tough week but chill.
Hahaha. I love blogs.
It’s Curly. I don’t go by a no Sue there, corny corn. SJ, ask your best friend A-Rod if he’ll please stay. Because we don’t have anything else to root for.
This is an official board announcement. Everyone who said the yanks would make the playoffs is banned from participating here due to supreme stupidity.
I say good riddance to any negative person. Even if they are looking right about now. The tide will turn.
How far under .500 do you think the Yankees would be were it not for A-Rod right now?
And who would have even considred that question last year?
high-socked A-Rod=superior.
I’d like to ban trolls like canofcorn. Have fun on 38pitches.com, canofcorn.
TORRE LOOKS LIKE HE HAS BEEN IN A FUNERAL HOME FOR A MONTH…NO LIFE IN THAT CLUB HOUSE
All I know is there had better be some changes made before tomorrow’s game or I’m done watching this team for the season.
DFA some of these worthless arms in the pen. Call up some of the AAA arms that are doing well. What the heck is there to lose at this point? To keep doing the same things over and over and expecting different results is insanity.
Figures.
A-Rod hits 60 homers and drives in 160 in a year where the Yanks don’t make the playoffs. What a world.
lol
Isn’t it ironic that A-Rods best season in Pinstripes would be one in where his team misses the playoffs.
That sounds like a similar tune.
Things can’t get any worse in the pen.
Why not give the guys in Scranton a shot at it?
I’m sure they can get something for Myers and VIllone. Every team needs set up guys. Especially NL clubs.
“I’d like to ban trolls like canofcorn. Have fun on 38pitches.com, canofcorn.”
Go screw yourself with the bat that Clueless Joe keeps holding. And enjoy the rest of this season…it’s a real beauty!
Now it’s A-Rods fault the Yanks pitching stinks?
I use to put off taking vacations in October because of the “Yankees will be in the playoffs”…
Looks like that won’t be an issue this year…
Amsterdam – here I come!!
Have fun, canofcorn!
Say hi to 38 Pitches for all of us!
all the naysayers were right. and all the optimists were proven to be complete idiots.
I bet canofcorn does post at 38 pitches’ blog. I wonder how many SJ44′s they got? All as downbeat as ours??
“A-Rod hits 60 homers and drives in 160 in a year where the Yanks don’t make the playoffs. What a world.”
Reminds me of Dave Kingman & the Mets..
yeah and the yanks will be 20 games back and will be looking for playoff money september 1st
Enough is enough with this ABSOLUTE moron named Joe “Clueless” Torre!!!! First he asks Cano to bunt who I am sure has never ever bunted and has no idea how to, seems like he cant do anything fundamentally….but it gets worse he does this with Posada the slowest person in the world on 1st base. If he really wanted to bunt then pinch run Posada with Thompson and why not have him steal a base or then ask Cano to bunt.
Then he loses the 2nd game in a week with awful over used Proctor on the mound and his great closer never ever entered the game!!! Where the ##### was Rivera??!! He hasnt pitched in days, and is well rested and he couldnt pitch 2 innings?!! Give me a break. So he lets Proctor absolutely implode on the mound, and not even heads up enough to get the runner at 2nd. As Rivera sits in the bullpen.
Torre keep letting Cabrera and Cano play like morons out there…any good manager would never let that go on.
Steinbrenner or any one in the Steinbrenner family please wake up and get this sleepy guy out of here.
Lucky for people like them its the net. Because if I heard any of this in a bar, they wouldn’t like me when I’m angry.
Is anyone getting any enjoyment out of watching this team this year?
I mean it’s not like we can even watch knowing that we are watching our team rebuild.
What a depresing rest of the summer it’s gonna be watching these over the hill, me first jackasses ona nighly basis.
Tomorrow is another day. I hope Cash is working those phones.
The season is not even half over. I know there is little reason for optimism right now, but i think there are still too many good players on this roster to be this bad. I feel sick about how they have played, and would not put my money on them making the playoffs. But i think it is slightly irrational to rule them out at this point, and make statements saying that all the optimists are idiots.
Torre isn’t even trying anymore.
“Tomorrow is another day. I hope Cash is working those phones.”
Give me a break!
If what’s gone on so far hasn’t caused that dolt Cashman to do something…ANYTHING…then this loss won’t. For whatever reason, he thinks it’s acceptable to have the team play this way.
And George thinks it’s acceptable to have a manager who makes the worst moves imaginable.
We are not a good team now.
Happy Birthday, Derek Jeter…
I’m tired of the Matsui bashing on this blog. And this is the only place it happens. He is respected throughout the league. You know he’s a good player when the broadcasters of the other teams rave about him. They can’t find one bad thing to say (of course they’re probably not allowed to talk about his “collection”)
You know he’s going to give his best for each at-bat, and his defense this year has been stellar.
And of course he’s a true Yankee. He came from our “AAAA” team in Japan. (I know, I know, Igawa came from the same farm system). Why is Matsui a beloved Yankee? Because he’s humble, works hard, and has been consistent year in and year out.
It doesn’t bother me when you guys trash Damon and Abreu, but you really have to leave Matsui out of it.
As for Cano, whoever was talking about trading him, are you crazy? He’s one of the best 2B in baseball. And when he actually get hits, they’re real hits. Who do you propose to fill his spot?
As for Cairo, he’s playing the game right. He does a lot, by not trying to do too much. Leave him alone, too. Sad to say, but he’s one of the bright spots on the team.
Sorry, rant over. What we have is a bunch of good players who are underachieving. Oh, and a manager who sometimes does some really lame things, like leave a pitcher in to walk 3 in the 9th. Tomorrow’s another day and another game. Contrary to what many of you believe, I don’t think these guys have thrown in the towel yet.
Cashman didn’t realize in the spring we needed a first baseman and a competent bullpen. All of the sudden when we’re circling the drain you expect him to “work the phones?”
For what?
The season is beyond repair now.
This team had a shot to fix things a month ago and nothing was done.
What do they care? They sold their 4 million tickets already.
We’re the fools who are depressed. They are counting their money.
That’s what happens when the Boss goes senile and all the leeches who care more about making money than winning call the shots.
CAN WE WIN ONE SINGLE *&#*&*&#*&%$ F*&(^#(&^(*&^# GAME?!?!
KSFJHS*FH)#HLJFDKJ
Disclaimer: The comment was written by a younger generation fan. One not used to a losing record at any point in any season and one accustomed to high scoring, efficiently pitched games day in and day out. This comment was written in dismay of current situations and should not be viewed as an accurate representation of the poster’s character.
Canofcorn, why do you come here? You never say anything useful or add to a conversation. Really, it is beyond me as to why people come to this site just to spout idiocy and push their negative opinions upon people who want to rationally discuss the sport. You attack every positive comment made as if it were illegal to have faith in the team when they are playing poorly. Why are you a fan if you want to see them fail? If you are going to be negative, at least have some insight, like SJ44. I just dont get it. Maybe you just like annoying the people here with the stupidity you spew, and feel like you cant be affected because of the anonymity the internet provides. Well, if that is the case, I hope you get your just desserts.
I think Torre is starting to lose his mind.
It’s safe to assume that Torre is usually working with inside information that fans don’t have. But how many times this season have we seen him go with strategies that make no sense, only to be unable to give an explanation for his decision afterward? Whether it’s refusing to DL Damon (the HR tonight proves nothing, he’s still a wreck), showing an inability to improve the team’s chances in close-and-late situations, mismanaging the pen, playing favorites to the point of absurdity (Cairo, Proctor), or combining all of the above (the most infuriating), the guy just doesn’t seem to act rationally anymore, and it’s costing us games in a season where we can’t give any away.
What’s most remarkable to me is how this blog demonstrates support for Torre’s skills as a manager dwindling away. This used to be one of the few blogs in existence whose commenters, not to mention Pete, routinely defended Torre’s decisions. (Compare RLYW, Yansfan v. Soxfan, Bronx Banter – Torre’s been raked over the coals there all season. And then there’s Nomaas.) Now, even Pete, one of the staunchest Torre fans I’ve ever seen, has to questions Torre’s moves and suggest that he not return.
Torre can’t be fired. The Yankees probably won’t make the playoffs this year no matter who the manager is, so a new manager would just get stuck with the bad rep associated with the 2007 Yankees. Plus, Torre’s built up far too much goodwill for a firing to sit well with the majority of fans.
So this remains Torre’s year to prove himself once and for all. Due to endless injuries (Giambi, Damon, a ridiculous number of pitchers, heck, even Mientkiewicz), inexplicably bad performances from guys like Abreu and Cano, and plain bad luck, this is probably the worst team he has ever managed, despite excellent efforts from ARod, Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, and Wang. If he can oversee a miraculous turnaround and we win the WC, I will take back all the mean things I’ve said about him. But if not, I think this season will expose him a bit as a manager who, at least for the last several years, has been more lucky than good.
trade cano.
he’s highly overrated. seriously.
myrtlebeachfan,
Like I said, who do you replace him with?
Oh, my bad. Did you mean trade Cano for Texeira and move Cairo to 2nd?
It was around this time of year that Torre got canned as the Cardinals manager back in ’95… the Cards were only a few games under .500 at that point…
Torre is a good manager when he has the ammo but when it comes to motivating the under achievers – he’s hopeless…
Cano’s not overrated. I don’t think anyone expects him to be more than he is. Someone, perhaps a HITTING COACH, should work with him and teach him that it’s ok to take pitches, and sometimes, you can get to first base without even hitting the ball!
I liked Donnie as hitting coach. I’m not sure if he does anything as bench coach other than hang out with Torre.
Andrea,
Mattingly has a very important job as bench coach.
He’s the one who has to nudge Torre when it’s time to wake him up to make a pitching change.
Bob–he’s not doing his job very well! Maybe THAT’S why Mo didn’t come in tonight. Is there anyone to nudge Mattingly if HE nods off?
Totally unrelated–but does anyone else think that Kevin Long kinda looks like Corey Lidle?
Andrea, that’s because Torre is in love with Proctor and always dreaming of him. Thus when he gets woken up, that’s the first word out of his mouth everytime. Mattingly isn’t secure enough to question him yet.
i told you about proctor , i´´m sorry for him but he’s not trustable, i don’t think he’s ready yet for the yankees, i should take a look around, he’s too yellow in hard situations so. i must be sent to another team
Bob–and all this time I thought his dreams were filled with Farnsworth and Jeter.
Your theory of how/why pitchers are chosen out of the bullpen actually makes more sense than any I’ve been able to muster.
Pathetic. Hard to watch this team now and expect much out of them.
I know things can change quickly in baseball, but they aren’t showing any signs of life. 98% of the season has been suck. They had one good run that ended quickly and back we are to losing games we should be winning.
Funniest part is Pettite left the Astros cause he didn’t get run support. Here it is again, Andy. Sorry. You deserve better. You struggled and still held them to two runs and the Suckees offense failed like usual.
I am starting to truly think Abreu needs to go and I am a huge fan of his. Cano should be traded. He isn’t as great as his stats make him out to be. He doesn’t get runs in. Damon needs a traveling Chiropracter to be at his side 24/7.
Th entire bullpen, except Mo, needs to be traded.
I’ll keep out starting rotation though. 90% of the time they pitch well enough to keep the Yankees in the game.
CASHMAN DO SOMETHING!!
This entire read was great till the SJ44 thing started. Nice to read through here with his posts. Too bad he came back and then we had a imposter. One sj is bad enough.
Being in Turkey because of the military has not allow me to watch NYY games so I catch the highlights. Well, I should not have caught the highlights. This is a sad story. Melky can’t take control of his outfield. Abooboo needs to leave. I’m sorry that he is sorry that he is on the wrong side of 30. We have no bench. Last I check, Rivera was available. Why not put him in there in the 9th? Vizcaino is the only consistent pitcher RIGHT NOW not named Rivera. Why not put him in there? Torre has lost his way in managing this team because of all of the dog crap the players have put forth in effort. Last but not least, Brian “Rocks in HIS HEAD” Cashman. Once again, he is not doing anything but watching this horror story unfold even more. Chris Britton and Sean Henn are available in the minors. Maybe Shelley can be our DH for a period of time. Gagne just shutdown the Tigers. PAGING BRIAN “ROCKS IN HIS HEAD” CASHMAN!!!!!!