Update on Alex Rodriguez
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 02, 2007 
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The Yankees termed it a “strained hamstring” which is significant. Usually teams try and go with euphemisms like “pull” or “discomfort.” It’s also in the upper part of the hamstring, where the muscles are thickest. That’s usually more serious than the lower part of the hamstring.
“It could have been a lot worse, I crashed into him pretty hard,” Rodriguez said.
Alex left the clubhouse with his leg wrapped and will be examined by a doctor tomorrow. I would think that would include an MRI. He said he could not have scored from second on a base hit, which is why he asked out of the game.
We won’t know more until tomorrow but the Yankees will be lucky if A-Rod doesn’t go on the disabled list.
Not trying to be over dramatic but it’s season over if arod goes on the dl or misses any significant time. No power whatsoever
They can play with out him for a few days that is about it…
you are correct….without Giambi they have no other power
Who would play 3b if Alex is out? I hope he isn’t hurt too bad. With Jeter being sore we cannot lose both of them. That’s a thought I’m not even going to entertain.
Mike Lowell starting the all-star game. That just seems very, very…wrong.
If Rodriguez is indeed hurt, does the manager pick a new reserve player, or will it go to the next highest vote-getter (Crede)?
It’s going to take consecutive MRIs to determine how serious the injury is. Getting one the day after the injury won’t show anything unless the tendon and muscle are completely separated from each other (don’t think THAT happened!). First they have to treat the inflammatory process, reduce the swelling, ease him back into mobility…then recheck with an MRI.
There goes his participation in the All-Star Game. Or the HR Derby.
His season has been a bit of a see-saw statistically speaking. April great, May awful, June great, July…maybe nothing.
thanks for the update, pete. if he’s on the DL, season over.
Yankees are calling it a “strain”? Start measuring him for a wooden leg.
I knew when Tippy Toes hit that bomb early in the game something weird was gonna happen. Watch now we reel off ten in a row.
Uh, Pete, “pull” isn’t a euphemism. A pull is much worse. They called it what it was, how could they not? I know the popular viewpoint about the Yankees nowadays is negative, negative, negative, worst it could be, etc., but why not just leave it until we actually know something? Your analysis is poor, as usual, simply based on a pulled hamstring, as said by A-Rod himself, he would not have been able to even walk.
“Your analysis is poor, as usual”
It gets really old to read posts by those who relish bashing Pete. There’s dozens of Yankee blogs out there. Go find another. Sheesh.
This injury could have another ramification. Aside from the All-Star game, if A-Rod misses significant time, his MVP chances could be hurt as well.
During the game O’Neill said a “pull” is much worse than a “strain” for whatever that is worth.
Like Pete alluded to though teams always lie about stuff like this so who knows.
Of course this is the 2007 Yankees so I’m expecting the worse.
Let’s chill until we have more facts.
Can Arod hit and have him tag, say cairo, to run for him? That would work
Andrew: Yeah, what do I know? I spoke to the manager and the player. Might as well write about what a nice day it was. The Yankees almost never use the word strain. They always come up with some word that sounds better.
It’s not like they’ve had a lot of hamstring injuries this season that I’m basing this on. … Oh wait, that’s right, they have.
I’m going to start a second blog for people who only want happy news. That should do great.
I agree with Whoa… he looked pretty OK walking off the field and didn’t look like he was in much pain. Give him a few days, then stick him in the DH spot (which requires Damon to be in the outfield – god forbid). He will be fine, keep yer heads up.
A strain and a pull are two very different injuries, “Yankee fans, I have severely bad news, ARod will not walk again this year. He suffered a grade 3 stubbed toe while trotting the bases”
Andrew, go read the back of Cynthia Rodriguez’s shirt. And find another blog. We won’t know what’s up with A-Rod for a few days, but hamstring injuries are very serious, as the Yankees know. Wang strained his hammy in spring training and missed more than a month. Moose also was down close to a month. Cano did the same last season and missed close to two months. So it’s a big cause for concern.
Thanks for the update on Alex Pete. Seems every time Yankees get a break we get a let down as well. Thoughts are with Alex and wishing a speedy recovery. He’s become the opposing team pitchers nightmare. We at least need that weapon.
GET WELL ALEX!!!!!
we need ya man!
I don’t relish anything. I called Pete out on his poor analytical skills.
Where’d you get your medical degree from andrew?
Positive Petes’ being a negative Ned. Maybe it’ll be one of those things like when Giambi went out and every one started hitting. Why would anyone look at the back of Cynthia Rodriguez shirt when they look at the front.
Jesus. You call out the owner of a blog because he makes unfounded assumptions based on nothing, and, is in some cases flat-out wrong, and you’re asked to never post again. Are echo chambers really that comforting?
Anyway, from what I hear a hamstring strain is a non-contact injury. I wonder where it happened, if it was indeed on the slight collision with Morneau or when he was rolling on the ground, or when he stood up. Not that it matters, it’s just you’d expect something other than a hamstring injury on a player collision.
Bob – same place where Pete got his.
Unfounded assumptions based on nothing????
Did he not just say he talked to Torre and A-Rod?
Who have you talked to? Your magic 8 ball?
Peter you need to chill out and stop playing prophet.
It’s a strain as of right now which means nothing as he wasn’t really checked out.
Strained is very different than pulled (torn).
It may require some rest and be fine. He was able to walk and wasn’t limping which tells you right there it wasn’t a tear.
As I see it now, he may just have to rest it a few games or till the All Star Break.
Which isn’t that great for the Angels series.
“he makes unfounded assumptions based on nothing”
OK. Gotcha.
Yeah, I made it up. Nobody said he hurt his hamstring.
what does God have to do with this, andrew?
You people are proving my point.
No matter what anyone says, it’s all speculation.
Just chill until tomorrow when we’ll have some more definitive news.
Marius,
Did you watch the postgame?? A-Rod did not sound like this was going to be a couple of day thing.
Well – time will tell – but the way this season is gone, I wouldn’t be surprised if this is weeks rather than days.
Well maybe this will give all the people who think the team is better off without A-Rod a chance to see what it’s like without him first hand.
i guess what i don’t understand is how andrew could critique pete’s “analysis” when, essentially, he’s simply relating what he heard from torre and rodriguez. the bit about the muscles being the thickest in the upper part of the hamstring and, thus injuries typically being more serious, isn’t “analysis,” it’s a medical fact.
it’s not like pete posted anything saying “i betcha he’ll be out for a month..”
i’m just not really sure what there is to get upset about here. a-rod hurt his hamstring, that’s a fact. pete’s job is to report that.
Yeah, he talked to A-Rod and Torre who told him they’d know more tomorrow, because no one, not even the doctor who examined him, knows anything now except it’s probably a hammy. The team used the word ‘pull’ right off with Hughes, they immediately put him on the DL and didn’t really try to hide anything except the expected return date (remember when Pete was pushing his “mid-August” return date, even before he sprained his ankle? And now he’s coming back late July), although they didn’t really commit to a date because no one actually knows. It’s just a little obnoxious, people guessing at things we all know nothing about. I like the blog a lot, I do, it’s one of the best in the business, but some of Pete’s analysis is a little haphazard, poor, and sometimes wrong, and it irks me.
In the absence of an MRI there are no medical facts.
btw, We all heard A-Rod ourselves on YES.
Well Andrew, you’re obnoxious and that irks us.
this is indeed a weird phenomenon. every time a Yankee gets hurt this year (frequently in the hamstring area) the Yanks give some nondescript title to the injury and assure all the fans that it is “no big deal”
weeks later, we’re all still waiting for the player to return.
1. cano (last year)
2. wang
3. moose
4. hughes
5. A-rod
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dudes 1-4 on that list missed several weeks apiece with what seemed to be “no big deals” at first (except hughes, his was bad from the get-go).
pete is pointing out to us that we should have sober expectations regarding injuries. all sports teams lie about injuries, football, baseball, etc. why jump down his throat for that?
so the interesting phenomenon arises when peoples on this blog flip out at Pete for his suggestion that things are likely worse than they first appear (based on the overwhelming body of evidence that suggests that teams downplay injuries at first). why is that? do people have $ on the games? what is wrong with facing reality and moving on from that point?
Because we don’t KNOW what reality is. Sheesh.
reality is that almost without fail injuries turn out to be worse than teams make them out to be, initially.
wishing really hard for A-rod to be OK isn’t going to change the end result.
No, that’s speculation. Reality is whether or not there is bleeding in the hamstring overnight (and if so, how much), the results of the MRI, and the accompanying physical exam.
Peter, Hamstring injuries aren’t always TORN HAMSTRINGS, that is the point many of us are trying to make here.
No one is saying he didn’t hurt his hamstring, just saying it may not be at the level that you are making it right now which is torn and out for weeks and weeks.
He ran, he crashed, he fell, he got up, he walked without a limp.
How about not speculating and actually going on facts. I know as a modern day reporter that is tought, but try to be old school here and just report the facts.
FCUK
I think, when reading up on hamstrings due to Hughes’, that all hamstring injuries include some kind of soft tissue tears. The real factor is how serious it is, and how much rest you need. Some guys miss a day or two, some guys are slower, some guys even play as a DH.
They took out A-Rod because he felt he couldn’t score from second. That’s pretty significant, too. It’s probably bad, but no one, not even the doctor who examined him, knows anything for sure right now. That’s why they have machines, and time.
Yawn.
Bedtime.
Thanks for the updates Peter. Unlike some others here, most of us understood what you meant and are not ready to cut you’re jugular over a miniscule point of unfounded or supposed logic on their parts.
You report what you hear or see from those in the know and don’t make it up as you go along, unlike some posters here who will take things way out of proportion for no good reason.
Some people need to bitch over the most stupid things just to think they are someone special on a blog sight, when they are really nothing in real life. Sad but true.
I for one always enjoy what you have to say and appreciate
the up to the minute reports you offer on this site. But you should heed you’re own advice and not reply to those idiots who try to provoke a response from you in the negative to them, that’s what they live for.
Thank you once again.
if it was seriuos he would have fell and needed help to get up and walk they probaly toook him out because they were winnin and not makit wrse then it is it wouldnt surprise me if he dh’s tommarow
Andrew don’t take this the wrong way guy but do you have your own blog site?
Guys, strains/tears/pulls are all the same thing, the difference is in the grade. I’m not a doctor, but I am an athlete and had numerous of these things. Grade 1 is basically a mild tearing within the muscle. Grade 2 is partial tear of the muscle and a Grade 3 is basically a complete rupture. My guess is the “pulled hammy” that Alex and Paulie were referring to is a Grade 3. Think Nomar’s groin injury.
A grade 1 is no big deal, the sort of thing that would keep you out of the lineup for a couple of days and feel sore but is basically fine. My guess is he is somewhere between a 1 and a 2 and we won’t know more. If its a 2, he’ll likely have to be on the DL, hopefully for not too long.
No, T.J., how would I take that the wrong way?
379,
That’s just not true. I’ve had grade 2 tears of both my groin and quad. When I tore my groin playing soccer, there was a moment I knew something was very wrong, but I actually managed to play the rest of the game. The next morning though I was unable to lift my leg (not because of pain, I was physically unable to). I was out 8 weeks and that was with physical therapy.
I guess Chris Basak at 3rd, eh? Can Andy Phillips play some 3rd in a pinch?
God, this is depressing.
This is Cashman’s worst nightmare times 1000. His lack of planning on the bench has been exposed in a big way from day one.
This is why I keep saying this is all not Torre’s fault.
If Arod hits the DL, I think a deal has to come this week. Get Mike Lamb back to play 3rd and then shift over to 1st when Arod returns or something.
We cannot field a team for any period of time with Andy Phillips and Miguel Cairo starting at 1st and 3rd.
He crashed, he took a funny step on his left foot and that’s where it happened, he fell, grabbed his leg and did limp when he got up. Or do we get different television here on the West Coast?
Vinny:
well said.
Sensationalism by Pete. He’ll be day to day and he will play in the all-star game.
Doctors we will know more tommorrow…
Pete I love your blog but let’s wait and see… Arod did not appear to be in as much discomfort as Hughes was and of course did not hear the pop..
I am hoping it is very minor but we will see.
Know the polyannas will be bitching about the bench. they should bitch about it but if our pen was better we could have more position players on the big club. they should call someone up immediately ans DFA myers, villone, or trade the schmo(fanrsworth). If the send down Ramirez and tell us it is because he has options I say who give a cr p.
Give Ramirez a chance, we know the losers we have stink already, it really is not up for debate is it????
Hey, guys, be positive. Miracles can happen. Just look at Serena William who won a 3 set match with a strained calf (a’la Johnny Damon)
Guys:
Any hamstring injury is a tear. There’s a group of three muscles and when an athlete gets injured, the muscle fibers get pulled apart. The rest of the terms are just words teams use. Doctors laugh when they see what teams say.
I love that I’m being sensational when I report what the team says. The guy asked out of the game, left the place with his leg wrapped and said he was having trouble putting weight on it. It may not be a long-term injury and I hope it’s not because I do not want to cover a 78-win team. But it’s not just nothing.
No, it’s not as bad as Hughes. But Cano wasn’t either last season. Or Wang or Mussina or anybody else. They all went on the DL.
Guess we’ll find out tomorow.
I once had a grade 2 tear in college and played 3 weeks later with no ill effects
oh PS… Nomar’s groin was a grade 3… the guy was down for the count and almost crying… my hammy was a grade 2 and I heard a pop and couldn’t play the rest of the game… I suspect A-Rod’s is a 1 and yes, he will play in the all-star game and thereafter
oh god… Alex please be healthy, it’s over if he’s out for any long period of time.
Well, if Alex is out for a long period of time, I don’t think the season is over. If Alex is out, look for Cash to make a trade for a Carlos Pena type of player. Dimitri Young, Ty Wigginton, Scott Hatteburg, Ronny Belliard, etc. LOOK FOR CASH TO GET OFF HIS BEHIND!!!!!!
Alex is are best player but if hes hurt he needs time if we pull together as a team we can do it
Just wait for Will Carrol’s analysis
Did A-Rod “ask out” of the game? He stayed in and it wasn’t until Bowa went out and talked to him and brought out Torre and Donahue that A-Rod came out.
Isn’t that again Marty Millar’s fault?