Game 89: Yankees at Devil Rays
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 14, 2007 
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Here are the lineups:
YANKEES
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Phillips 1B
Thompson LF
Wang RHP (9-4, 3.36)
DEVIL RAYS
Iwamura 3B
Crawford LF
Harris SS
Pena 1B
Young RF
Upton CF
Wigginton 2B
Gomes DH
Casanova C
Sonnanstine (1-3, 5.36)
Pregame chatter: Melky Cabrera is not feeling well and you don’t want to know the details. He could be available later in the game … Joe Torre said he spoke to Brian Cashman about Phil Hughes. The GM told him that while the statistics last night (3 3 0 0 0 6) were impressive, Hughes wasn’t quite that good. They want him to get two more starts before he comes up. When it comes to rehabs, the stats are fairly meaningless. Teams look more for command, maintaining velocity, repeating of mechanics, fielding the position, etc. … Derek Jeter has one of the new iPhones. … U. of Florida football coach Urban Meyer is at the game and spoke with Jeter, Torre and A-Rod during batting practice. Gators basketball coach Billy Donovan, a Long Island guy, is a big Yankees fan and gets advice from Torre from time to time.
UPDATE, 8:35 p.m.: Did a little research for a story today on how much Jorge Posada is being used compared to other catchers. Kind of interesting.
Innings caught (through Friday)
Russell Martin (LAD) 713
Jason Kendall (OAK) 706.1
Jorge Posada (NYY) 638
Bengie Molina (SF) 637.2
Games started (as a catcher)
Martin 81
Kendall 79
Molina 73
Posada 70
However Posada has played in 85 of 89 games (counting tonight) thanks to turns as a DH and 1B.
Torre said Wil Nieves would start tomorrow. But Posada will probably get in the game at some point. He hasn’t had a full day off since June 10, which is amazing.
UPDATE, 10:02 p.m.: I’d still trade Farnsworth for Lieber and Lieber is out for the rest of the season. Now it’s up to Mo Rivera.
UPDATE, 10:16 p.m.: The Bobby Abreu win/loss numbers are downright weird.
In wins: 66 of 175 (.377) 6 HR, 40 RBI.
In losses: 25 of 158 (.158), 1 HR, 9 RBI.
Alright, let’s start a new winning streak tonight with our ace on the mound. I wish those iPhone’s were available in Canada now. Anybody here have one yet?
umm, who in the world is the DH, Johnny DL? Whos in left?
Matsui is DH tonight.
Oh, man, Jeter has an iPhone. I wonder if he stood on line all night to get one? Did he let you look up your blog on it, Peter?
wouldn’t it be great if sori was still on the team playing center field? He hit a huge three runner today. I love that guy.
iPhone too pricey for me. But there was a lone outside the Apple store in our mall that not only was long, but apparently was in its 10th hour by the time I saw it. Many people bought not one, but 2 or 3 of them! Plus, with those kinds of things, I like to wait for the 2nd or 3rd generation, when a lot of the kinks get worked out. They look really, really neat, though.
Thompson is starting again..? There has to be a better solution to Cabrera being out.
I’m just happy Abreu is back in the 3 spot!
We have two left fielders for this game – awesome!
Doreen,
You know, I was thinking. Jeter is like an iPhone, and ARod is the fancy touch screen.
Well, zachy, if Soriano was still in Pinstripes — they wouldn’t have A-Rod.
I’ll take A-Rod.
What is exactly wrong with the Melk Man? I hope hes available for the start of the game tomorrow i want him back in the 2 spot and jeter in the 3 hole.
When are they DFA’ing Myers and bringing up Shelly DUncan???
Can they do it in my lieftime please……
I forgot Myers has been so effective and he is a key cog in this tremendous pen………..
Umm Cabrera in the 2nd spot is just crazy. He belongs in the bottom of the order.
that’s true.
Oh NO!! Torre is gonna screw up my Gators
Get ya damn, dirty hands of my Gators, Torre!!
Derek has a new IPhone? No biggie, ARod has a new IStripper!!
Pete, I’m reading that the Red Sox are going to make a huge push for Arod…they apparently have $31mm coming off their roster this fall….which is exactly what Arod might cost. What do you think?
Please tell me that Cash or Arod would never let that happen.
Designated Blogger –
LOL!!!
And Cashman is the OS. Torre the ISP. UGH!!
Anyone watching the Tino Martinez Yankeeography? Glory days.
Just a hunch, but I’m guessing Melky has goo coming out of both ends.
That’s probably why Pete doesn’t want to go into details.
If A-Rod ends up with the Red Sox next season, we are in deep trouble. A line-up that consists of Ortiz, Ramirez, and A-Rod is just crazy to think about. I would be extremely disapointed with Cashman if he let’s A-Rod walk. Back up the bank truck for goodness sake, we can afford it.
That story is planted. Come on, it has Scott Boras pys-ops written all over it.
Yeah, you’re probably right. But I hate even thinking about it.
you think NYC is tough… its 20 times rougher in Boston, with there shock jock station WEEI riling up the drunken miscreants and the “entitled” lvy league lot.
Just ask Manny.
I don’t think ARod wants to be openly mocked, everyday, just like “this”":http://tinyurl.com/2f4pwc
Stuart: They aren’t bringing up Shelley Duncan unless they feel they need a DH. They see him strictly as a DH because he isn’t a good fielder. So as long as Melky, Damon, Matsui, & Abreu are healthy, Duncan won’t be up.
As for Hughes, Hughes was happy with how he pitched (thought much better than Tampa), and 31 of his 43 pitches were strikes as he topped at 94. Granted he was not at peak form, but consider this: if he didn’t pitch all that well, imagine if/when he does…
you think NYC is tough, its 20 times rougher in Boston, with there shock jock station WEEI riling up the drunken miscreants and the “entitled” lvy league lot.
Just ask Manny.
I don’t think ARod wants to be openly mocked, everyday, just like “this”:http://tinyurl.com/2f4pwc
Minors watch: Chamberlain for Trenton tonight.
After some time on DL, Ohlendorf back with Scranton & pitching tonight.
sonnanstine- 9 hr in 7 starts. bodes well. good k to bb ratio though.
For anyone interested the Trenton Thunder game today is being shown over the internet. It’s on right now. Second inning.
Joba is pitching. Great chance to watch him work
http://www.cn8.tv/default.asp
Yep…line drive OFF Joba…great
So I log onto the cn8.tv of Joba the Hut and the first pitch I see he gets hit on the leg on a comebacker…It is that kind of a year.
1-0 Boston
Bad start, down 0-3 after one inning……The Yanks will have to do something that have not done nearly enough this year……a good old-fashioned traditional comeback win!
hey all… checking in from waterfront park in trenton. very scary moment in the second inning as joba took a liner that looked to be right off the foot. trainer and manager came out to check on him… he appeared fine and continued the inning. so far he’s cruising along. he is a big big kid.
any other bits of interest I will check in… sardina is coming to bat
Guess I was overly optimistic in predicting that the Yanks can split the series with the DRays. The question is not whether the Yanks can catch up to Boston; it is whether the DRays can catch the Yanks.
sardina just hit a 3 run dinger
I hope the yankees aren’t thinking like rattachewy. 7 innings left
Jay Destro,
Any idea why Miranda isn’t in the line up? I didn’t hear them mention anything on the telecast.
Exhibit W why the Devil Rays are pathetic:
Their broadcasters are counting how many green tea’s Joe Torre is having.
MLB.TV for the win….
miranda caught the 25 fan ‘first pitches’ so he is in uniform… not sure why he isn’t in the line up
It looks like Wang is giving up lotsa fly balls tonight….This can’t be good….PETER: Do you know how Wang’s fingernail is holding up ???
gidP BY jeter
This is exactly why I like Jeter back in the 2 spot….you wouldn’t really rather see Abreu right now, would ya ? Plus Bobby will see some sweet pitches with A-Rod behind him….
Impressive Rally.
Jay Destro,
Thanks for the update. I wish they’d play him regularly at first base. He’s got to be closer to major league ready (and more talented?) than Cody Ehlers (or Eric Duncan).
Don’t know if they post the gun readings in Trenton but if so send some interesting ones along when you get a chance. I’d really be interested in knowing what the difference in velocity between Joba fastball/ slider/ change usually runs at.
Can Yankees fans handle a rebuilding year? It looks like we are about to find out. This season has exposed the age of our team. We need to get younger and faster in a hurry.
3-0 Boston
Dice K >>>> Wang, performance and paycheck-wise.
rattachewy you’re a pessimistic dude huh?
CB – thanks for the link to the trenton game – nice to see one of our teams playing well.
joba is like a bulldog and sardinha is mashing… first time seeing either of them play. does anyone know if they are close to making the bigs?
Wow…Joba is filthy…
Chamberlain’s line so far:
4IP, 2H, 0BB 5K
What a shot by Matsui!
OK….that last inning, we all know, we could have gotten more….but GODZILLA is helping the cause…We should easily put up 7 – 10 runs tonight ( I checked my Crystal Ball )
no gun here… but he is dealing
We’re hitting bombs. It’s a matter of time before we get loads of runs.
I am watching on the computer…how hard of a shot was the one that Phillips hit ???
Chamberlain is pitching a gem…i highly recommend watching it at http://www.cn8.tv/default
His stuff really isn’t fair for the minor leagues. 5th inning dealing 97mph supposedly.
Chamberlain is killing…hes got great control with the slider and fastball on the outside half of the plate — the NH players look like they have no chance at all…
I know it’s a little harder to judge position players… but the Yankees seem really devoid of anyone that is anywhere near major league ready in the field. I know Tabata and Duncan are supposed to be the studs..but their numbers aren’t great and no one stands out statistically. And obviously I would be able to tell more if I saw the games, but they arent on Cn8 that often haha.
kidjock,
This season may be the one in which the bill comes due. They ignored developing young talent for too long. Wang, Cano and Melky have been important new pieces but the age and lack of athleticism on the team is really striking. Hopefully that seems to have changed since Cash has taken over and focused on the draft.
It’s still a lot of rumors but it looks like the Yankees may have signed many of the players they drafted this year. Perhaps more than could have been expected. No announcements yet because they paid over slot for many of those players, making Selid mad (who in turn drags his heels officially approving the deal). They may have signed 3 guys who were first round/ supplemental round talents.
Wes – no problem. Great to actually be able to see Joba. The Yanks should broadcast these minor league games on Yes.
Joba needs to further develop a third pitch. But he is just devastating. The slider is past tremendous. Hopefully the change comes along and he joins the starting rotation by midseason next year.
Joba is embarrassing this guys in the minor league. 7ks, 5IP, 2H, 0 walks. 97 Plus on the corner is not fair.
Wang doing a nice job of shutting them down since the seeing eye hits in the first.
phillips shot was huge, made it into this little triangle that’s the farthest part of the park. really really surprising upton made the catch. it was a good timed jump, and a slam into the wall
no room for error. Wang needs to be strictly perfect from now on.
where can i get a phil hughes jersey? anyone know?
Way to go, KT. Leadoff double. Criticism of him before unwarranted, I mean the guy has only 47 at bats in the majors!
As Mattingly once said, “You’re going to judge me after only 100 at bats?”
The criticism here (so far) goes to Damon and Jeter, who didn’t advance KT. Lord knows if Abreu does. Otherwise, a leadoff double wasted.
…and El Come Dulce (sp.) picks up JD and the Captain. HR.
BOBBBBBBBBYYY
EL COMO DUCE!!!
BOBBY ABREU AS SWEET AS CANDY…
heh..
very nice clutch BOMB by BOBBY….I hope that he continues AND he is kept up in the 3 slot….GO YANKEES !!!
That right there is exactly why Abreu belongs at the top of the order and Cabrera at the bottom.. Nufff said
Melky has done more than enough at the top of the order…this is one game for Bobby in the 3 hole
Tabata’s numbers aren’t great??? The guy is hitting .314 at High A and doesn’t turn 19 until next month!
As for Joba…Indian, throws hard. Big, barrel-chest.
Reminds me of another Yankee who was part-Indian, threw hard, barrel chest—-Allie Reynolds.
I saw someone say we could get rid of Abreu and Giambi, how is that possible without continuing to eat their 16mil per salaries?
Thats actually comical that you actually believe Melky belongs in the 2nd spot River Ave Report. He doesn’t have any power or the talent to hit there.
kenny – bring on the big bad wolf!
In their last 8 starts:
Wang is 6-0 – 2.72 ERA (and a mangled index finger)
Dice is 3-3 – 2.29 ERA
Hard to believe that while ARod is having perhaps one of the great years in recent history, Jeter is hitting 330+ and Posada is having the best year of his career the Yankee world seems to turn with Bobby Abreu.
As Mike S said don’t be fooled by Tabata’s numbers. Yes he doesn’t have a lot of home runs. But what he’s doing at his age in high A ball is considered phenomenal. I think he’s the youngest player in the entire Florida State League this season and that league is notorious for being a pitchers league. What Tabata’s doing just doesn’t happen that often.
Wang is 72 pitches with five SO at 5IP…
Yeah, Joba looks great, I’m watching online right now.
As far as Tabata goes, his power numbers aren’t ideal, but as someone else pointed out, he’s not even 19 yet. He’s hitting over .300 with a high OBP if I recall correctly.
As far as Posada goes, the problem is it seems most of the games Nieves starts have been relatively close. Thus, Posada comes in as a pinch hitter. We need a nice blowout tomorrow.
Joba so far 6 ip, 0 r, 2 h, 1 bb, 8 Ks. Don’t know if that will be it for him. Maybe our viewers can let us know.
Melky’s done alright in the 2 hole, he’s helped us out, but Abreu should be at the top, bottom line. He was (rightly) taken out while he struggled big time, as he was a big hole in between Jeter and A-Rod. But you need to look beyond a temporary slump. When Abreu is on (and I don’t even mean dominating, just when he’s doing his usual thing) he’s a great #3 hitter. Hits for some power, gets on base all the time for Alex, good at bats, etc. Melky’s been doing okay but he’s got little power, doesn’t get on base all that often compared to most of the other guys…he’s fine in the lineup since he provides strong defense in center, especially while Damon isn’t 100%, but ideally, he’d be toward the bottom.
Joba is still in
Joba comes out for the seventh! Think this is his longest outing of the year.
7 IP, 3 hits, 1 walk, 9 strikeouts, and no runs.
I’m guessing that’s it since he’s at around 90 pitches, but we’ll see.
Joba has retired 16 of the last 17 hitters he’s faced. Struck out the first hitter he faced in the seventh and made it look like a joke.
Looks better in the seventh than he did in the first. Much stronger – he left a few fastballs out over the plate in the first and second. Now its not even a contest.
There is lot of discussion about the fact that we do not have major league ready position players in the minors. It is correct.
However, Yanks made it a point to select primarily pitchers in the drafts and we kind of have surplus of pitching. All it takes is to trade some of these pitchers, excluding the untouchables like Joba and Kennedy, to get poisiton players. I consider this being in a good position as pitching is at premium. If we were to draft position players we would not have had all these good pitchers in the farm system.
Toronto just scored three to tie Boston 4-4 in the 6th
Hoooo Weee!!
Did we get outta of a jam or what – Phew!!
All of the sudden, Wang turned into Farnsy.
Who pitches the 7th, proctor or villone??
Looks like the Wanger is done for the day
That’s true. There are some very solid pitchers in the minors that aren’t untouchable (because we have even better pitchers), and they can be pieces in a trade if necessary, whether now or in the future. Or they can end up pitching for us in case of injuries, or in the bullpen, or whatever. I wish the Yanks had stronger position players in the minors, but it’s hard to complain about the pitching that has been drafted the past couple of years.
Wang gets out of that jam with a K.
6 Ks, 6 IP. 95 pitches means Wang’s probably done for the day.
I’m thinking Torre will send out Proctor, Farnsworth, and Rivera.
Proctor stunk yesterday. I don’t see him getting into tonight’s game. I’m guessing Villone, Farnsworth, Rivera.
Probably Proctor in the 7th…that’d be my guess. Unless there are lefties coming up and Joe wants to match Villone up with them.
Proctor will be in.
After yesterday’s outing, Torre believes that he needs an outing right away to build his confidence back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
currently, 6-4 Royals over Indians
let’s see ramirez. i was right behind the bullpen last night, and it’s really pretty absurd how skinny that guy is
does torre even know that edwar ramirez is on the team?
too much for the Jays to stop that big red sox machine.
Looks Jeter’s IPhone has made a big difference
“let’s see ramirez. i was right behind the bullpen last night, and it’s really pretty absurd how skinny that guy is”
that’s what Jorge will look like at end of the season.
Edwar will not be in a close game like this. That is not Torre’s style.
-Rao
Villone is da man
Last 8 apperances: 10 1/3 Inn; *0.00 ERA; 1 hit; 8Ks*
how about taking a pitch Robby, damn.
2 more runs minimum and I don’t have to return my Crystal Ball to Wal-Mart !
I know Joe won’t do this, but come August, they have to make Villone the set up man, with Proctor and da Viz as the early guys. Let Farnsy go hunting.
So much for Cano’s learning to be patient.
He hacks at high balls and low balls….
Hm, you sure don’t see Jorge stealing much.
If Torre gives Posada days off though, people flame him for putting together a shoddy lineup. Well, to be fair, he has this knack of sitting Posada out on the same days he decides that Jeter, A-rod, and Matsui all need a day off (embellishing a wee bit). Honestly though, it seems like every time Posada is given a day out, Torre decides to sit at least 2 others.
There is no chance Villone will be the set up man. In spite of the success he is having now, it will not translate into success under pressure situations and against quality oppostion. If the Yanks are out of it then it is a different story.
It almost like Torre decides that Yanks can not win that game and sits those guys along with Posada. It is really wierd.
Tseng:
I’m sure that Mike Mussina hasn’t noticed any of the things you mentioned . . . or the fact that he was the guy chosen to pitch on 10 days rest!
Add a pinch of sugar and you have the recipe for a Moose blow-up tomorrow along with 10 different excuses.
(or everything could go well
)
Hey Cashman you stubborn, myopic, improvident SOB. Do ya think Bernie mighta been just a bit more of an offensive force off the bench than Kevin Thompson? KEVIN THOMPSON??
Shame on You!!! Not only did you hurt the major league roster with your recalcitrance, you antagonized Mo and Posada.
A minor league contract you offered? That insults my intelligence, I can’t imagine how it appears to Bernie.
Kyle, you better not mess up Wang’s 10th win!
Krazy Kyle strikes again!!
Suzyn mentioned that YES was showing Mo was giving Cano an earful because he swung at a pitch above his ear. True? If so, good for Mo. Geez, after getting benched for a day, you’d think Robby would get it.
i so wish i could punch Kyle in the brain and not worry about the absolute stomping he would give me as a result
Sir Farnsworthless throwing home run derby!!
Melky was supposed to be the 4th outfielder, Ron. That’s who they were counting on to give more than Bernie. Unfortunately due to Giambi getting hurt and Damon not being at full health, we’re left with Damon as the DH and Melky playing everyday.
How did Pena get away?? 21 homers. He may hit 40.
Is Suzyn watching some other YES braodcast or is she dumb?
Mo is in the bullpen, not on the bench.
After hacking Cano goes to the bench, not the bullpen.
did I miss something ? did the Farnsworth that we have come to know and love make an appearance and GROOVE ONE DOWN THE MIDDLE ???
wow –
Pena has 20 taters on the year, guess it is sort of a tree falling in the woods kind of thing.
E-Ram for final out or Rivera goes 1.1 IP.
Tired of Farns. :/
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm Time to go to MO
I have a bad bad bad feeling
This is where Joe has to show he understands the game situation and take Kyle out. But he may not have Mo ready yet, as they did not start him warming up earlier. At least they are throwing to 1B to buy time.
Oh, not the pick-off attempts, not that!!
the infield is falling asleep.
Ahhh, crikey
gotta love how people are bashing cash for not being able to forsee all these injuries or all the yanks playing below where they should be. an outfield of a healthy and normal abreu, damon, and matsui with melky on the bench is fantastic. it didn’t work out like that. and none of us before the season thought it would work out the way it has. bernie was invited to st. he’s the one who didn’t go. you can’t lay this on cash’s feet. where we are now is squarely on the backs of the players, and maybe the strength coach. who cares how it appears to bernie. he was great as a yankee, and a great ball player. it just didn’t work out this year for him. had he made different decisions, things could have been different.
Jeter hit the ump! Wait til Bud Selig heres that one.
It must be in Kyle’s contract that he issue at least 1 BB per appearance.
Jorgie saves the day
Whew!
It was close.
Posada saves the day and Kyle.
Now upto Mo to lock up the win.
An extra run in top 9th helps.
Posada!
Gawd, it’s like being at the dentist }:[
No, Mo was sitting on the bench before zipping out to the bullpen to warm up. The bullpen is very close.
sj61- Either that or he needs a stronger perscription
Farnsworth will NOT be coming out for the 9th…MO will save the day…PLUS we are getting 2 more runs right now !!!
Kyle Lite, I recognize your know-it-all ass from the Y-P forums.
Kyle, let me refresh your memory. Cash-Man’s original sin was to forsake a fifth outfielder in favor of 2 incompetent first-baseman– one who couldn’t hit (Minky) and one who couldn’t field (Phelphs) when you had Cairo all along who demonstrated he could acquit himself of the position quite nicely when necessary. Something that seemed obvious to everyone except Cashman when you consider the Yankees had three starting outfielders over the age of 32 and lost two outfielders last year to injuries.
A position that, now, in retrospect, looks even more foolish because the organization ended up cutting Phelps.
the yanks got lucky. I would have put Mariano in, Kyle is less then a sure thing.. Kyle has only 4 down in order innings..
upton was out great throw…
can we get some runs please!!!!!!!!
Hip! Hip! Jorge!…..Saves Kyle’s bacon.
Why would anyone think Farnsworthless is comng back out? His back couldnt handle it if they wanted to anyway
Will, you are right.
It is time, people get over Bernie not being here.
It is water under the brige. Can’t blame Cash for this.
I am liking this “in your face” base stealing. Now it’s time for Jeter, Bobby and A-Rod to put the petal to the metal, baby !!!
oops…I think that is PEDAL…not PETAL ( derrr ! )
Go NYR-
_Either that or he needs a stronger perscription_
nice movie reference. Geez, I hope that doen’st mean Farnsy is smack’n boots with CRod.
Chamberlin dominated tonight at Trenton. zip runs I think 8 k’s, his ERA is very very low 2.. how about him next saturday instead of Desalvo????
Instead of Desalvo, what about our 50 million man Igawa? Hmm.. Never mind about that!
Ron,
If the Yankees would’ve carried a 5th outfielder, it would’ve been Thompson long before it would’ve been Bernie. The only way Bernie would’ve made this team is if he came into spring training and tore it up, showing enough offense to overcome all the other areas of the game in which Thompson is superior. Just like Phelps did over Phillips.
Cashman made the absolute right move with the situation and Bernie would have none of it.
Tack-on runs are HOT!!!!
its a bobby kind of evening
I hope all the Bobby haters start loving him now. He just had a long slump. He should do well for us to make it to the playoffs, just like last year.
Nonetheless Bernie should have been treated better with he’s done for us, and for his royalty, don’t you think
BBFan –
so are you saying we should pick up the $16M option for next year???? hmmmm????
Its amazing how he is the leading indicator for the Yanks fate this year.
KC beats Cleveland 6-5.
If Bobby performs well for the rest of the season and Damon continues to… for lack of a better word, suck, then picking up the option might not be a bad idea. Maybe the first half was just an extended fluke. The other option is to find another expensive outfielder out there.
Don’t look now, ARod is in a slump: July 7-39 .179 His hammy needs some rest.
Hey
I heard about the JOBA game being televised just when he finished the game. Does anybody know if there’s a way to get that video downloaded, or will CN8 repost it somewhere? I saw Joba’s in person but REALLY want to see him on video.
PLEASE let me know
Even at the risk of antagonizing Mo and Posada, as Cashman did? Are you serious, Johnson?
You can say with a straight face you’d prefer to have Kevin Thompson in yesterday’s game, today’s game, and every other game he’s started against lefties to 51′s from the right-handed bat, weak arm notwithstanding. Well if you honestly believe that, we’ll have to agree to disagree, I’m afraid, because I think it was one of the worst follies of Cashman’s tenure.
For my money, Kevin Thompson doesn’t belong on the major league roster of a team with a 200 million dollar pay roll and a mission statement to win the World Series every year.
A million-a-year, a guaranteed contract, and kiss saying I love you, Bernie, and the Yankees could have added him to the roster. And if you honestly believe he wouldn’t have helped this team this year, more than say, Phelps and Thompson and Basak and whoever else has filled that 25th roster spot, then, well, I guess you and I are watching different games.
TKin DC,
A lot depends on what happens with A-Rod. If A-Rod opts out, I have no doubt they will pick up Bobby’s option. We need some offense.
I was never down on Bobby. I still beleive that he had a long slump, just like Jeter had in the begining of the season three or four years back. He is still young and healthy unlike Damon who is breaking down.
guys! guys! im here no need to fear any long. i was just at harry potter. i recommend it. i also recommend that if drama tries to hook you up check in between the legs
Even at the risk of antagonizing Mo and Posada, as Cashman did? Are you serious, Johnson?
You can say with a straight face you’d prefer to have Kevin Thompson in yesterday’s game, today’s game, and every other game he’s started against lefties to 51’s right-handed bat, weak arm notwithstanding. Well if you honestly believe that, we’ll have to agree to disagree, I’m afraid, because I think it was one of the worst follies of Cashman’s tenure.
For my money, Kevin Thompson doesn’t belong on the major league roster of a team with a 200 million dollar pay roll and a mission statement to win the World Series every year.
A million-a-year, a guaranteed contract, and kiss saying I love you, Bernie, and the Yankees could have added him to the roster. And if you honestly believe he wouldn’t have helped this team this year, more than say, Phelps and Thompson and Basak and whoever else has filled that 25th roster spot, then, well, I guess you and I are watching different games.
alan i think we can agree that its better that the sox and yanks win than they both lose.
can we say thats its safe to say that abreu is out of his slump?
Great game, everyone. Now, it’s on to Moose, and let’s win there!
We win.
Cleveland lost.
We are only seven games out in the loss column for the WC.
Most importantly, now only three teams ahead of us in WC.
Things are looking bright.
I heard about the JOBA game being televised just when he finished the game. Does anybody know if there’s a way to get that video downloaded, or will CN8 repost it somewhere? I saw Joba’s in person but REALLY want to see him on video.
SOMEBODY let me know
Watch it there Doc, with the Bobby allusions. Those were his last words. I don’t love Moose but we need him for the rest of the season.
Hot-streak or no hot-streak, I don’t want Abreu back next season.
They certainly won’t pick up his option, but it’s conceivable that he could sign a short-term deal for less — like $12-13M.
I’d rather him not come back at all and fill that spot with Rowand instead.
The Yanks will be better off if they concentrate on stacking their rotation and defense.
No I don’t Ron. I don’t think Bernie would have helped at all. I think he’d have been a 1973 Willie Mays.
KT has about 50 at bats in the majors. Mind if I would have judged you on your 2nd day on the job????
You say KT doesn’t belong, well I guess then that Fred Stanley didn’t belong on the 1976-1978 Yanks, Homer Bush didn’t belong on the 1998 team, Andy Fox the 1996 team, Clay Bellinger the 2000 team…need I go on?
How many tools did Bernie (at 38) have left? He can’t run any more, doesn’t hit for much power anymore, can’t field much anymore, can’t throw….and as for hitting for average, I don’t think he’d be too hot there either. So what is left?
As far as how he was treated, it’s not nice, but it is a business, first and foremost. See how Babe Ruth was let go after 1934.
The Yanks have a problem with the bench. But their BIGGEST problem was and is in pitching, since the kids aren’t ready yet and they were going with Pavano, Igawa and kids who were not ready. Don’t see how Bernie helps there.
Bleep Joe and his “style”. Bleep Farnsworth(less). Use Edwar.
If Bernie were here, Joe would have gone all sentimental, used Bernie way too much and you would see too many at bats from him and probably .215-3-20 right now in 150 or so at bats.
Your RSS feed isnt working. Just letting you know. Thanks.
How does not resigning Bernie antagonize Mo and Posada? These aren’t a group of school-kids, this a professional organization.
And no, I would not rather have Bernie than Thompson. Thompson is quintessential 5th outfielder, a good defensive player who is also a pitch-running and base-stealing threat. Bernie’s only use would’ve been as a left-handed bat. What, exactly, do you think adding a 38-year old pinch hitter would’ve done for this team? The Yankees’ problem is not hitting right-handed pitching. It’s having too many old players who cannot play defense. That’s why we’ve had 3 players fighting over the 1B position and another 3 fighting over the DH spot.
It sounds like you’re personally offended by Cashman not throwing the crown jewels at Bernie instead of offering him a chance to prove that he would’ve belonged on this team. If so… well… that’s a shame, but they’re trying to, you know, run a business here.
oh yeah…if Bernie WERE here, he’d be taking the playing time and at bats away from Melky, who needs it. Better to be developing a 22 year old who has an arm (Melky) than playing a 38 year old Venus De Milo whose best days are 5 years or so behind him.
I love Bernie, but as the man sang, All Things Must Pass.
Chuckles,
You do not want Bobby back, I understand. I think he is helful.
In any case, your math about his salary is a little off. If they let him go, they should let him go but not resign. The reason is he has to be paid 2 mil for the option. So,if you resign him for 13 mil, you are saving only 1 mil and once he is on the market there will be many teams willing to sign him for longer than one year.
Guidryball-
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How, Johnson, did Cashman alienate Mo and Posada by spurning Bernie? Read Mark Feinsand and Bill Madden in Saturday’s Daily News (Sorry Pete to plug a rival paper). The article is titled “Bernie Mess May Haunt”
Well Mike to return the favor, I hope YOUR BOSS doesn’t say that about you, “ALL THINGS MUST PASS” one day he decides your past your prime and cans you.
How sharper than a serpent’s tooth to hear a thankless fan!
How, Johnson, did Cashman alienate Mo and Posada by spurning Bernie? Read Mark Feinsand and Bill Madden in Saturday’s Daily News (Sorry Pete to plug a rival paper). The article is titled “Bernie Mess May Haunt�
Well Mike to return the favor, I hope YOUR BOSS doesn’t say that about you, “ALL THINGS MUST PASSâ€? when one day he decides you’re past your prime and cans you.
How sharper than a serpent’s tooth to hear a thankless fan!
Nice job by Jeter who calm Mo down.
Guidryball-
here’s a short interview with Joba from last Sunday:
http://tinyurl.com/2e3dvr
Why is it thankless not offering an over the hill player a guarnateed contract? Bernie was treated very well by Yankess over his career and he was paid well.
Joba’s combined stats this year:
Combined 8-2, 2.05 ERA.
74 2/3 IP, 108 K.
Ron….he already did. Got laid off last year, thank you very much. Myself, MY BOSS and 3 others were let go. All of us after 20 plus years of service….
That’s life….
I’m a very thankful fan. I just don’t need more 1973 Willie Mays types on this team. We have more than enough already.
…and if you think it won’t happen to you, think again.
“Well Mike to return the favor, I hope YOUR BOSS doesn’t say that about you, “ALL THINGS MUST PASSâ€? one day he decides your past your prime and cans you.”
You realize that is how the world actually works, right?
He was past his prime and past being a useful contributor to this team. He was extended the invitation to prove that he can still play. As you can see, this team is filled with a bunch of fragile one-dimensional players. They could not afford to carry another one for the sake of nostalgia. They’re actually trying to win something here.
Guys, isn’t the Bernie issue moot? The trading deadline strikes in 17 days, we’ve got plenty of deals and non-deals to haggle about.
Abreu is my MVP for this game.
“Guys, isn’t the Bernie issue moot?”
That is what every one thinks except for ONE presistent blogger.
Yea Bernie and Damon in the outfield together the other team will only get doubles or more..
Bernie cannot run nor throw anymore..
Thompson stinks but is more valuable at present then Bernie would be.. ALso if you read the article, mo says Bernie caused the situation.
The Yankees treated Bernie fine, he got paid a ton of $ for yrs. and became a legend.. If anything the Yanks need to be way more cutthroat then they are..
Posada will be back he has been with the Yanks 17ys. and they want him back and the same with Mo, they both are still productive. Bernie was no longer productive and he really is not a pinch hitter type.
Let the Bernig stuff go, he is done.. He was a very good and classy player.
The Yanks should be cutthroat and DFA Myers and call up another bat… Then mayber Ramirez will get in another game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The have to many pitchers…..
Yo man, since when the way the world work make it right or just or smart, Johnson? A business? Yo, there ain’t no amount a money worth the price of loyalty. You can’t buy that. Show your employees’ loyalty, on the other hand, make ‘em feel like they not so much dross you discard when they show a little rust and they pay you back in spades, in spades, man.
My man, Mike, sorry you lost your job but I’m really sorry you think “that’s life”. That aint life man, That’s injustice, That’s greed, That’s stupidity, That’s myopia to treat a man like that. That aint no kind a life look to me like worth living. Sounds like your old employer needs a nice lawsuit in the mail, teach him about the power of the working man.
Is Bernie moot? Man, I wish it were. But Mo and Posada don’t think so, according to The Daily News, and we have to sign them, got to. Whatever you think a Bernie– and we all can respectfully disagree as kindred Yankee fans– Mo and Posada are indispensable and irreplaceable. As far as I can see so is A=Rod. Cashman bungles this one and he’ll live in infamy.
That it for me, sorry to harp on Bernie– he’s my boy, class man, pure class.
Anyhow, Let’s kick some ass and turn this thing around.
Peace out.
Thanks Dracula
DRACULA
are AA ball games on MiLB.tv a lot? Or is it predominately AAA games available at MiLB.tv
Whither Edwar Ramirez? Torre keeps going back to Farnsworth in the eighth like he is the second coming of Joel Zumaya. Which he is most decidedly not. If I could draw, I would draw a cartoon of Torre on the high wire at the circus, holding the long pole and wobbling while Farnsy sits on his shoulders. With the wobbly lines and everything. Sheez.
Great game from Abreu today. I especially liked how he stayed back on that double to left in the ninth. I can see why people say he’s on track for a monster second-half.
I’ll say again, the Yankees could not afford to carry a non-productive player this year. They asked him if he’d be willing to go out and prove that he could contribute effectively this year and he refused. That’s all there is to say.
“Yo man, since when the way the world work make it right or just or smart, Johnson? A business? Yo, there ain’t no amount a money worth the price of loyalty.”
Ok… that doesn’t even make sense. Using your logic, it’s not “right” that A-Rod makes more than a doctor, soldier, or law enforcement officer, therefore, we should refuse to pay him? Come on, man, that’s a ridiculous argument.
Personally, I am a socialist, but ballplayers make what ballplayers make. C’est la vie. I love the game and their talent, so my fandom, especially for the Yankees, is my horrible contradiction and guilty pleasure. But distribution of wealth is another thing entirely and the current world endemic of poverty numbers our days.
You know, as an uneducated guess, I would say that most of the team probably hits much better in wins than losses, hence the fact that the team wins when the players perform well. I’d like to see, say, Damon’s numbers in wins v. losses, or Cano’s.
Great comment on Farnsworth. I would trade him for a player to ne named later, like 20 years from now. He is the worst.