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		<title>By: Mike S.</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/07/20/game-95-devil-rays-at-yankees/comment-page-12/#comment-83290</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa..., 

maybe not the biggest blow, but you are going to tell me that Karstens&#039; injuries didn&#039;t hurt this team? The guy had a good spring, was poised to be the 5 (and relegate Igawa to the minors, where Igawa belongs). As for Pavano, that&#039;s a different story. Just maybe Karstens (and Rasner?) could have stabilized the 4 or 5 spots in the rotation and/or helped to stabilize the bullpen had they been put there after Clemens joined the team. Instead, the 4/5 have been a mess, and the injuries helped force the Clippards, Wrights and DeSalvos into the rotation before they were ready.

Seriously, who would you rather see out there right now, leaving Hughes out of the mix? Karstens, Igawa, DeSalvo, Wright, Clippard? Which one out of that mix?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa&#8230;, </p>
<p>maybe not the biggest blow, but you are going to tell me that Karstens&#8217; injuries didn&#8217;t hurt this team? The guy had a good spring, was poised to be the 5 (and relegate Igawa to the minors, where Igawa belongs). As for Pavano, that&#8217;s a different story. Just maybe Karstens (and Rasner?) could have stabilized the 4 or 5 spots in the rotation and/or helped to stabilize the bullpen had they been put there after Clemens joined the team. Instead, the 4/5 have been a mess, and the injuries helped force the Clippards, Wrights and DeSalvos into the rotation before they were ready.</p>
<p>Seriously, who would you rather see out there right now, leaving Hughes out of the mix? Karstens, Igawa, DeSalvo, Wright, Clippard? Which one out of that mix?</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary, so typical from a poster such as yourself to make a typo into an excuse for your lack of baseball knowledge. You don&#039;t have a true rebuttal so you talk out of your butt. You are one of the masses who get their rocks off by trying to annoy people with feeble attempts at provoking them on the internet, when if you had to ever face them while spewing your nonsense, you&#039;d be as quiet as a mouse. 

Wake up and grow up. Isn&#039;t it past your bedtime ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary, so typical from a poster such as yourself to make a typo into an excuse for your lack of baseball knowledge. You don&#8217;t have a true rebuttal so you talk out of your butt. You are one of the masses who get their rocks off by trying to annoy people with feeble attempts at provoking them on the internet, when if you had to ever face them while spewing your nonsense, you&#8217;d be as quiet as a mouse. </p>
<p>Wake up and grow up. Isn&#8217;t it past your bedtime ???</p>
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		<title>By: E-ROC</title>
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		<dc:creator>E-ROC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CaptainsCorner--Mussina is the best at that.

&quot;Every once in a while, you get it handed to you,&quot; said Yankees starter Mike Mussina, who allowed six runs in 4 2/3 innings. &quot;Obviously, I didn&#039;t pitch very well at all, and we played kind of flat. 

&quot;We were never really in it today. We&#039;ve got a long day tomorrow and we&#039;ve got to come out and play with a little more energy, and get our heads in the right place, and get going in the right direction again. We can&#039;t afford to get down and lose a handful of games in a row.&quot; 

&quot;It was an unusual start for Moose, because it looked like he had real good stuff in the first two innings,&quot; manager Joe Torre said. &quot;Spotting pitches, he looked like he was good. In the third inning, it looked like he wasn&#039;t missing by a lot, but he was just getting in some bad counts.&quot; 

Torre absolved Ramirez of the blame for his ineffective performance, saying that it had more to do with his lack of regular work than any dearth of physical ability. 

Ramirez struck out the side in his Major League debut on July 3 and recorded four outs on July 6 against the Angels, but hadn&#039;t pitched since, his service relegated to the bullpen mound. 

&quot;Ramirez just hasn&#039;t worked,&quot; Torre said. &quot;We had no idea what to expect when we brought him in. We knew the only time he was going to get the call would be in situations like this. ... That&#039;s just the product of that.&quot; 

New York Yankees Website</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CaptainsCorner&#8211;Mussina is the best at that.</p>
<p>&#8220;Every once in a while, you get it handed to you,&#8221; said Yankees starter Mike Mussina, who allowed six runs in 4 2/3 innings. &#8220;Obviously, I didn&#8217;t pitch very well at all, and we played kind of flat. </p>
<p>&#8220;We were never really in it today. We&#8217;ve got a long day tomorrow and we&#8217;ve got to come out and play with a little more energy, and get our heads in the right place, and get going in the right direction again. We can&#8217;t afford to get down and lose a handful of games in a row.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;It was an unusual start for Moose, because it looked like he had real good stuff in the first two innings,&#8221; manager Joe Torre said. &#8220;Spotting pitches, he looked like he was good. In the third inning, it looked like he wasn&#8217;t missing by a lot, but he was just getting in some bad counts.&#8221; </p>
<p>Torre absolved Ramirez of the blame for his ineffective performance, saying that it had more to do with his lack of regular work than any dearth of physical ability. </p>
<p>Ramirez struck out the side in his Major League debut on July 3 and recorded four outs on July 6 against the Angels, but hadn&#8217;t pitched since, his service relegated to the bullpen mound. </p>
<p>&#8220;Ramirez just hasn&#8217;t worked,&#8221; Torre said. &#8220;We had no idea what to expect when we brought him in. We knew the only time he was going to get the call would be in situations like this. &#8230; That&#8217;s just the product of that.&#8221; </p>
<p>New York Yankees Website</p>
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		<title>By: pat m</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Cashman looked to Mussina as an insurnace policy and hoped that he&#039;d be a solid # 3 who would be a plus 5 guy.....Someone who&#039;d go for instance 15-10.....Pavano was the key and Cashman place to much faith that his winter in Arizona for conditioning was going to pay off....In fact he was to supplant Mussina in the 3 slot and the hope was that he&#039;d come up big something like 17-12....Karstens spring moved him up to the 5 spot and when Wanger got hurt he suddenly is counted on to post a number like 13-10....So as we see in July all plans that were to be have been tossed away like discarded ace bandages......Something major I still contend will occur prior to the deadline......Then Pete will give his slant and take on the transaction,a nd he&#039;ll proceed to alienate at least 35 % of this membership........In closing, other than playing ball, covering the Yanks, traveling with the club through the country and getting paid for doing so in my mind is a tit job...How many would swap occupations with Ol Pete....Then of course you&#039;d have to deal with the twits that flood this site with some real off the wall shit......Pete I live about 15 miles from Anaheim , I&#039;ll cover your gig for you, rub elbows with the boys, ask questions and report on the evenings events.......THanks for all your efforts.....Pat M....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Cashman looked to Mussina as an insurnace policy and hoped that he&#8217;d be a solid # 3 who would be a plus 5 guy&#8230;..Someone who&#8217;d go for instance 15-10&#8230;..Pavano was the key and Cashman place to much faith that his winter in Arizona for conditioning was going to pay off&#8230;.In fact he was to supplant Mussina in the 3 slot and the hope was that he&#8217;d come up big something like 17-12&#8230;.Karstens spring moved him up to the 5 spot and when Wanger got hurt he suddenly is counted on to post a number like 13-10&#8230;.So as we see in July all plans that were to be have been tossed away like discarded ace bandages&#8230;&#8230;Something major I still contend will occur prior to the deadline&#8230;&#8230;Then Pete will give his slant and take on the transaction,a nd he&#8217;ll proceed to alienate at least 35 % of this membership&#8230;&#8230;..In closing, other than playing ball, covering the Yanks, traveling with the club through the country and getting paid for doing so in my mind is a tit job&#8230;How many would swap occupations with Ol Pete&#8230;.Then of course you&#8217;d have to deal with the twits that flood this site with some real off the wall shit&#8230;&#8230;Pete I live about 15 miles from Anaheim , I&#8217;ll cover your gig for you, rub elbows with the boys, ask questions and report on the evenings events&#8230;&#8230;.THanks for all your efforts&#8230;..Pat M&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: E-ROC</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/07/20/game-95-devil-rays-at-yankees/comment-page-12/#comment-83237</link>
		<dc:creator>E-ROC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, Abooboo is up to his old tricks in the outfield again. I can&#039;t wait until this guy leaves. Second thoughts on that Dye deal?! Mussina just aged again. How is he now?? I bet his approach is &quot;A little nibble here, a little nibble there should get me a strike.&quot; Maybe something went wrong with his schedule, or somebody interrupted his routine during his days off. Edwar Ramirez........does he throw side sessions when doesn&#039;t pitch?? Couldn&#039;t find the plate, until it was too late. Oh yeah, isn&#039;t Navarro a former Yankee prospect?? I must apologize to Myers. He&#039;ll do anything for the team and it shows. Bruney.....please be demoted. Seriously, is Brower or Britton that much worse?? Shelley Duncan got a hit, along with two strikeouts. Hopefully, Mattingly, Long, Jeter, and A-Rod can help him to shorten his swing and plate discipline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, Abooboo is up to his old tricks in the outfield again. I can&#8217;t wait until this guy leaves. Second thoughts on that Dye deal?! Mussina just aged again. How is he now?? I bet his approach is &#8220;A little nibble here, a little nibble there should get me a strike.&#8221; Maybe something went wrong with his schedule, or somebody interrupted his routine during his days off. Edwar Ramirez&#8230;&#8230;..does he throw side sessions when doesn&#8217;t pitch?? Couldn&#8217;t find the plate, until it was too late. Oh yeah, isn&#8217;t Navarro a former Yankee prospect?? I must apologize to Myers. He&#8217;ll do anything for the team and it shows. Bruney&#8230;..please be demoted. Seriously, is Brower or Britton that much worse?? Shelley Duncan got a hit, along with two strikeouts. Hopefully, Mattingly, Long, Jeter, and A-Rod can help him to shorten his swing and plate discipline.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It has nothing at all to do with sanctimony, it has to do with baseball accumen, which you obviously have little of, judging by a couple of your commentâ€™s tonight.&quot;

This is the funniest post ever. Vinny, you can&#039;t even spell acumen right, let alone show any. Bwahaha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It has nothing at all to do with sanctimony, it has to do with baseball accumen, which you obviously have little of, judging by a couple of your commentâ€™s tonight.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the funniest post ever. Vinny, you can&#8217;t even spell acumen right, let alone show any. Bwahaha!</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point of the exercise Mary, is he is not as significant as he&#039;s being made out to be. He would only be used when games are not on the line or in any key situations in any case. Not on this team. He was not brought up to perform at that level. He&#039;s no more than a fill in on this team right now. He was not brought up to improve himself at major league level. That&#039;s why he&#039;s a minor league player. 

It has nothing at all to do with sanctimony, it has to do with baseball accumen, which you obviously have little of, judging by a couple of your comment&#039;s tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point of the exercise Mary, is he is not as significant as he&#8217;s being made out to be. He would only be used when games are not on the line or in any key situations in any case. Not on this team. He was not brought up to perform at that level. He&#8217;s no more than a fill in on this team right now. He was not brought up to improve himself at major league level. That&#8217;s why he&#8217;s a minor league player. </p>
<p>It has nothing at all to do with sanctimony, it has to do with baseball accumen, which you obviously have little of, judging by a couple of your comment&#8217;s tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainsCorner</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptainsCorner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mussina always makes the most laughable comments after a game when he was beat up. I mean either you can get major leaguers(or barely MLers like todays game) out or you should just retire. These were his comments.

&quot;That inning took off and we never really recovered. We played kind of flat. We were never really in the game today.&quot;

What is this WE thing??!! Yeah they were never in the game because HE is the one that gave up 5 runs in 5 innings to a AAA team and got beat up by the 8th and 9th hitters like he always does. He always blames it on the offense when he is awful. I am soo sick of his act already. Good thing they have Hughes to replace Igawa but someone should replace him!! He has been terrible this season. I am glad Cashman signed a 38 year old to a 2 year deal and now we are stuck with him for next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mussina always makes the most laughable comments after a game when he was beat up. I mean either you can get major leaguers(or barely MLers like todays game) out or you should just retire. These were his comments.</p>
<p>&#8220;That inning took off and we never really recovered. We played kind of flat. We were never really in the game today.&#8221;</p>
<p>What is this WE thing??!! Yeah they were never in the game because HE is the one that gave up 5 runs in 5 innings to a AAA team and got beat up by the 8th and 9th hitters like he always does. He always blames it on the offense when he is awful. I am soo sick of his act already. Good thing they have Hughes to replace Igawa but someone should replace him!! He has been terrible this season. I am glad Cashman signed a 38 year old to a 2 year deal and now we are stuck with him for next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The IMMEDIATE GRATIFICATION CREW, as I call them, who obviously know much better than seasoned proâ€™s who do it for a living day in and day out, will always been unhappy and will be in for a rude awakinging if they think for a second that they know more or are aware of more than these professional people.&quot;

Spare us the sanctimony, Mr. Capital Letters. Just tell us how a pitcher improves when HE&#039;S ON THE BENCH FOR TWO WEEKS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The IMMEDIATE GRATIFICATION CREW, as I call them, who obviously know much better than seasoned proâ€™s who do it for a living day in and day out, will always been unhappy and will be in for a rude awakinging if they think for a second that they know more or are aware of more than these professional people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Spare us the sanctimony, Mr. Capital Letters. Just tell us how a pitcher improves when HE&#8217;S ON THE BENCH FOR TWO WEEKS.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 05:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, I just kind found it darkly comic that in one night the DH, Relief Pitcher and AA Stud Pitcher in the minors everyone has been clamoring for all spit the bit.

Kind of makes you think twice about some of the arm chair GM&#039;ing that goes on in here. 

That said, the best point of the night and I think the point Pete needs to understand frustrates us as fans is that you can&#039;t write about how Mo loses his effectiveness/sharpness without regular work and then slam a kid who didn&#039;t get into a game for 2 weeks. 

I was hoping Edwar would come in and stop the bleeding, but he opened up the jugular tonight. If he gets banished back to Scranton, I think it&#039;s not fair, but he&#039;s also not the difference maker this team needs. This team needs it regular players to just show some consistency and play to their capabilities. 

Watching Abreu&#039;s futile attempt in RF tonight was just sad. I know how important he is to this lineup, but I have to be honest -- if we can swap him for Dye for the rest of this season, I think I&#039;d rather watch Jermaine play for his free agent contract here than watch the up and down nature of Abreu. 

It just feels like we&#039;re waiting for the real Yankees to show up and sadly, I think we&#039;ve been watching them all season. 

I&#039;m still hopeful we can catch Boston -- they&#039;re as much of a mess as we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, I just kind found it darkly comic that in one night the DH, Relief Pitcher and AA Stud Pitcher in the minors everyone has been clamoring for all spit the bit.</p>
<p>Kind of makes you think twice about some of the arm chair GM&#8217;ing that goes on in here. </p>
<p>That said, the best point of the night and I think the point Pete needs to understand frustrates us as fans is that you can&#8217;t write about how Mo loses his effectiveness/sharpness without regular work and then slam a kid who didn&#8217;t get into a game for 2 weeks. </p>
<p>I was hoping Edwar would come in and stop the bleeding, but he opened up the jugular tonight. If he gets banished back to Scranton, I think it&#8217;s not fair, but he&#8217;s also not the difference maker this team needs. This team needs it regular players to just show some consistency and play to their capabilities. </p>
<p>Watching Abreu&#8217;s futile attempt in RF tonight was just sad. I know how important he is to this lineup, but I have to be honest &#8212; if we can swap him for Dye for the rest of this season, I think I&#8217;d rather watch Jermaine play for his free agent contract here than watch the up and down nature of Abreu. </p>
<p>It just feels like we&#8217;re waiting for the real Yankees to show up and sadly, I think we&#8217;ve been watching them all season. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still hopeful we can catch Boston &#8212; they&#8217;re as much of a mess as we are.</p>
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