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		<title>By: Joan in CT</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/07/22/the-sunday-links-24/comment-page-2/#comment-84495</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan in CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter -
Apparently you have a different idea of the role of the Yankee Captain than either your bloggers or Derek Jeter does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter -<br />
Apparently you have a different idea of the role of the Yankee Captain than either your bloggers or Derek Jeter does.</p>
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		<title>By: WebmistressEMC</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/07/22/the-sunday-links-24/comment-page-2/#comment-84366</link>
		<dc:creator>WebmistressEMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish more people would take to heart murphydog&#039;s comments above (12:40).  I think he hit the nail on the head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish more people would take to heart murphydog&#8217;s comments above (12:40).  I think he hit the nail on the head.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thnk that the sports world, the baseball world and anybody with common sense KNOWS that Sheffield&#039;s claims were ridiculous - so why even justify them with a response.  I&#039;m on Jeter&#039;s side here.

And about the &quot;God Bless America&quot;... what percentage of fans go to as many home games as you, the beat writer?  1%? 2%?  For some fans like myself who make a handful of games per season, the line by Sheppard and the song are perfectly fine tributes.  If you are forced to stand and hear any song 81 times in a 6-month span, of course you&#039;d be agitated a little - so I won&#039;t be too hard on you.

Love the site, keep up the hard work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thnk that the sports world, the baseball world and anybody with common sense KNOWS that Sheffield&#8217;s claims were ridiculous &#8211; so why even justify them with a response.  I&#8217;m on Jeter&#8217;s side here.</p>
<p>And about the &#8220;God Bless America&#8221;&#8230; what percentage of fans go to as many home games as you, the beat writer?  1%? 2%?  For some fans like myself who make a handful of games per season, the line by Sheppard and the song are perfectly fine tributes.  If you are forced to stand and hear any song 81 times in a 6-month span, of course you&#8217;d be agitated a little &#8211; so I won&#8217;t be too hard on you.</p>
<p>Love the site, keep up the hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: BBFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>BBFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan showed something there.
He does seem to have plate discipline.
If he can maintain that he will be successful in the Majors.  He will strikeout a lot with his long swing but he will have good OBP and will pop some out of the park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan showed something there.<br />
He does seem to have plate discipline.<br />
If he can maintain that he will be successful in the Majors.  He will strikeout a lot with his long swing but he will have good OBP and will pop some out of the park.</p>
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		<title>By: susan mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Bob Gibson speaking up re Torre, Murray Chass published comments by Gibson within the past week in his NY Times column. It sounded like Chass placed a phone call to Gibson who&#039;s normally reluctant to speak to the press. Gibson said he wouldn&#039;t have been Torre&#039;s friend for 25 years if he thought he were a racist. I believe Gibson also said he doesn&#039;t know Sheffield. I don&#039;t know if you consider this a &quot;public response&quot; but it was a response printed in a national newspaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bob Gibson speaking up re Torre, Murray Chass published comments by Gibson within the past week in his NY Times column. It sounded like Chass placed a phone call to Gibson who&#8217;s normally reluctant to speak to the press. Gibson said he wouldn&#8217;t have been Torre&#8217;s friend for 25 years if he thought he were a racist. I believe Gibson also said he doesn&#8217;t know Sheffield. I don&#8217;t know if you consider this a &#8220;public response&#8221; but it was a response printed in a national newspaper.</p>
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		<title>By: LAS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that as a black man AND a friend to Joe Torre, Jetes should have spoken up. The problem is, we don&#039;t know whether or not Torre asked Jeter not to get involved or whether Jeter concluded it made more sense to follow Torre&#039;s lead and keep his thoughts to himself. Like many, he and Torre may believe it&#039;s best not to feed trolls. In the rap world, Jay-Z has chosen the same route if only because every other two-bit rap artist sees attacking him as a route to creting a beef that will stir up record sales. And on that note, wasn&#039;t this interview tied to a book?

p.s. When interviewed and asked specifically if he thought Torre was a racist, he point blank said no. Which, of course, completely flies in the face of his statement that Torre treats black players differently, but oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that as a black man AND a friend to Joe Torre, Jetes should have spoken up. The problem is, we don&#8217;t know whether or not Torre asked Jeter not to get involved or whether Jeter concluded it made more sense to follow Torre&#8217;s lead and keep his thoughts to himself. Like many, he and Torre may believe it&#8217;s best not to feed trolls. In the rap world, Jay-Z has chosen the same route if only because every other two-bit rap artist sees attacking him as a route to creting a beef that will stir up record sales. And on that note, wasn&#8217;t this interview tied to a book?</p>
<p>p.s. When interviewed and asked specifically if he thought Torre was a racist, he point blank said no. Which, of course, completely flies in the face of his statement that Torre treats black players differently, but oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: karyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>karyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete:
You know I&#039;m a big fan of yours but you&#039;re way off base with regards to Jeter&#039;s lack of comment on the Sheffield accusations.
I know it would have been entertaining fodder for the sports pages to have a back and forth between Jeter and Sheffield and others, but I give the Captain credit for refraining comment. The Yankees need to focus on baseball, not on the comments from a disgruntled ex member of the team.
That&#039;s a show of maturity and restraint on Jeter&#039;s part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete:<br />
You know I&#8217;m a big fan of yours but you&#8217;re way off base with regards to Jeter&#8217;s lack of comment on the Sheffield accusations.<br />
I know it would have been entertaining fodder for the sports pages to have a back and forth between Jeter and Sheffield and others, but I give the Captain credit for refraining comment. The Yankees need to focus on baseball, not on the comments from a disgruntled ex member of the team.<br />
That&#8217;s a show of maturity and restraint on Jeter&#8217;s part.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, it&#039;s funny...I compared you to Lupica, but you&#039;re actually a lot like Michael Kay -- getting very touchy when someone dares to contradict you or say something even the slightest bit negative about you or what you say/write in your futile effort to proclaim, &quot;LOOK AT ME! IMPARTIAL NEW YORK MEDIA PERSON IS IN THE HOUSE!&quot; 

I&#039;m curious, Peter. Sheffield mouthed off a few months about Latinos in baseball. Where was your outrage at Albert Pujols not speaking up to defend Latinos? When Sheffield shot off his mouth about how he was the real leader of the team, where was your outrage that Bernie or Posada or Mo didn&#039;t defend him? Where&#039; your outrage been at every other stupid thing Sheff has said over the years?

There&#039;s a large, vocal contingent of &quot;Yankee fans&quot; that didn&#039;t even know where New York was until 2004. Though it&#039;s obvious you dislike A-Rod, you&#039;ve obviously begun to cater to that crowd of &quot;fans&quot; this year, as have most baseball writers. And you seem to think that the way to do that is to disparage Derek Jeter. The guy has been nothing but a role model for the game, and I think that it&#039;s really sad that he&#039;s getting this kind of treatment from the media in order to further their own agenda.

Frankly, if I were Derek Jeter, I&#039;d gather up Joe Torre, Gary Sheffield and A-Rod, grab a copy of the Q&amp;A he was nice enough to do for you, and show you exactly where you can put it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, it&#8217;s funny&#8230;I compared you to Lupica, but you&#8217;re actually a lot like Michael Kay &#8212; getting very touchy when someone dares to contradict you or say something even the slightest bit negative about you or what you say/write in your futile effort to proclaim, &#8220;LOOK AT ME! IMPARTIAL NEW YORK MEDIA PERSON IS IN THE HOUSE!&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious, Peter. Sheffield mouthed off a few months about Latinos in baseball. Where was your outrage at Albert Pujols not speaking up to defend Latinos? When Sheffield shot off his mouth about how he was the real leader of the team, where was your outrage that Bernie or Posada or Mo didn&#8217;t defend him? Where&#8217; your outrage been at every other stupid thing Sheff has said over the years?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a large, vocal contingent of &#8220;Yankee fans&#8221; that didn&#8217;t even know where New York was until 2004. Though it&#8217;s obvious you dislike A-Rod, you&#8217;ve obviously begun to cater to that crowd of &#8220;fans&#8221; this year, as have most baseball writers. And you seem to think that the way to do that is to disparage Derek Jeter. The guy has been nothing but a role model for the game, and I think that it&#8217;s really sad that he&#8217;s getting this kind of treatment from the media in order to further their own agenda.</p>
<p>Frankly, if I were Derek Jeter, I&#8217;d gather up Joe Torre, Gary Sheffield and A-Rod, grab a copy of the Q&amp;A he was nice enough to do for you, and show you exactly where you can put it.</p>
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		<title>By: murphydog</title>
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		<dc:creator>murphydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Jeter and Joe and Racism 

1. If there is a freedom of speech so precious that it was worth fighting and dying for in several wars, there must also be a freedom from speech just as jealously guarded. When someone keeps their mouth shut, sometimes it is an act worthy of great respect.  

2. Suggesting that Torre has done a lot for Jeter and that Jeter owed him something specific, e.g., rebuttal of Sheffield&#039;s remarks is unfair, mixing their professional and the personal obligations. Professionally, Jeter owes Joe Torre 100% on the field and in the clubhouse. On the personal level, only those two men can evaluate their discharge of their obligations to one another. 

3. Absent an explanation from Jeter as to his silence, the doctrine of &quot;fair comment&quot; governs. Given Jeter&#039;s and Torre&#039;s &quot;public figure&quot; status, journalists can ask fair questions and make fair statements about things fairly raised on the public record, like Sheffield&#039;s comments and the reaction - or lack thereof. 

4. This was a moving target. Sheffield first crossed over and then jumped back from the &quot;Joe is a Racist&quot; line, daring someone to rise to the bait. If Jeter had taken on Sheff, Sheff only had to say, &quot;Read my words. I never said Joe was a racist, in fact I told ESPN the opposite. I just said that he treated several people differently and they all happened to be people of color. Derek and I are friends. I don&#039;t understand him attacking me in public without speaking to me privately first to clarify what I said.&quot; Obviously, one of the dilemmas for Jeter could be that you cannot really defend someone against charges of racism when those charges have not been formally made and stood by. Thus, Jeter&#039;s failure to be a character witness in the court of racial discrimination may be due as much to the fact that the charge was never actually filed as anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Jeter and Joe and Racism </p>
<p>1. If there is a freedom of speech so precious that it was worth fighting and dying for in several wars, there must also be a freedom from speech just as jealously guarded. When someone keeps their mouth shut, sometimes it is an act worthy of great respect.  </p>
<p>2. Suggesting that Torre has done a lot for Jeter and that Jeter owed him something specific, e.g., rebuttal of Sheffield&#8217;s remarks is unfair, mixing their professional and the personal obligations. Professionally, Jeter owes Joe Torre 100% on the field and in the clubhouse. On the personal level, only those two men can evaluate their discharge of their obligations to one another. </p>
<p>3. Absent an explanation from Jeter as to his silence, the doctrine of &#8220;fair comment&#8221; governs. Given Jeter&#8217;s and Torre&#8217;s &#8220;public figure&#8221; status, journalists can ask fair questions and make fair statements about things fairly raised on the public record, like Sheffield&#8217;s comments and the reaction &#8211; or lack thereof. </p>
<p>4. This was a moving target. Sheffield first crossed over and then jumped back from the &#8220;Joe is a Racist&#8221; line, daring someone to rise to the bait. If Jeter had taken on Sheff, Sheff only had to say, &#8220;Read my words. I never said Joe was a racist, in fact I told ESPN the opposite. I just said that he treated several people differently and they all happened to be people of color. Derek and I are friends. I don&#8217;t understand him attacking me in public without speaking to me privately first to clarify what I said.&#8221; Obviously, one of the dilemmas for Jeter could be that you cannot really defend someone against charges of racism when those charges have not been formally made and stood by. Thus, Jeter&#8217;s failure to be a character witness in the court of racial discrimination may be due as much to the fact that the charge was never actually filed as anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s not outlasting Jeter as a Yankee.  Maybe outlasting Jeter as a shortstop... we all know Jeter isn&#039;t going to finish his career as a shortstop.  But Jeter will never play for another team.  Management would never allow it to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not outlasting Jeter as a Yankee.  Maybe outlasting Jeter as a shortstop&#8230; we all know Jeter isn&#8217;t going to finish his career as a shortstop.  But Jeter will never play for another team.  Management would never allow it to happen.</p>
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