Hot night + hot starter = loss
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Podcast on Jul 28, 2007 
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The Yankees ran into a hot starter tonight. Jeremy Guthrie’s ERA of 2.89 is second in the American League and he was throwing his two-seam sinking fastball at 97 mph. That’s why the Yankees grounded into 11 outs against him.
Andy Pettitte wasn’t awful but he again told us tonight how he doesn’t feel right on the mound. It’s a refrain he has been going to for five or six starts now. His command is off, he said, it’s nothing physical.
Scott Proctor is another story. That’s four homers in his last five appearances. He has allowed eight homers in 54.1 innings. He looks like a guy who is worried about being traded, which perhaps he should be.
Talked to several people around baseball today who are convinced the Yankees will make a move for offensive help and a reliever before the deadline. Depending who you ask, you hear different names.
Finally, let me close a long day with this. The Baltimore PR staff does a nice job of providing us with stats, notes and even a sheet with quotes from both managers.
For Dave Trembley tonight, there were two paragraphs of his quotes then it said, “Tape recorder died, comprehsive quote sheet tomorrow.”
There’s also another game to talk about tomorrow. But their heart is in the right place.
Here is some audio from Joe Torre:
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And Andy Pettitte:
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so who are these names that are being tossed around?
Hot or not, you have to get at least one of two runners in from 3rd with less than two outs, and Jeter and Phillips failed.
Khoa–If you are talking about possible acquisitions, Wilson Betemit, Ty Wigginton, Chad Qualls, Mark Loretta, Zack Greinke, Dan Wheeler, and Matt Thornton.
There have been whispers of Proctor, Damon, Giambi, Henn, and Farns being traded.
Those are rumored names. More often that not, trades involve players no one knew about in advance.
“Hot or not, you have to get at least one of two runners in from 3rd with less than two outs, and Jeter and Phillips failed.”
And that lack of fundamental baseball ability is one of the reasons the yankees will be staying home come playoff time. tonight’s game seemed like a nail in the season’s coffin.
whoa…I am with ya…anyway, we take Saturday’s and Sunday’s game and all is right again in Yankee Land. Good Night ! I am all for trading, Proctor, Giambi, Henn and Farns, as long as we get Mark T. from the Rangers and some bullpen help. IMO, all of this, remember…
Team has looked tired for the last two games. Scoring all those runs over the last few days and the trip to Baltimore took some of the fire out of them. New day tomorrow and a fresh start. Hopefully they get early runs instead of playng from behind again. The biggest problem will be if the Sox and Cleveland keep up their current pace without faultering a little. If the Yanks keep playing 750 ball they have a shot. If not, it will be a long winter.
I still think they can win the Division if they keep grinding out wins as well. Might as well shoot for it all and hope for the best. If not, they can settle for the wild card. Maybe this will be their way to a WS win. It’s going to be an interesting next two months at any rate.
boston and cleveland WILL both fade and the Boss will reload the Yankees…It will be an AWESOME 2 months upcoming…this is gonna be fun !
veras pitched tonight at Scranton….
That’s good to hear, Stuart.
The Boss doesn’t call the shots anymore.
It was very humid tonight. there was a clip on my9 of ARod being drapped with a dripping wet towel. that kind of exposure wears you down.
as for thursday night, I think Iggy bored them to death. what’s that axiom: infielders lose focus in long innings, making them vunerable to errors. I imagine it also affects their batting. It’s kinda like the concern about a pitcher’s effectiveness, when he’s been on the bench during a long inning or rain delay.
Unless some serious changes are made to the bullpen, the Yankees aren’t making it to the playoffs and if they do, they aren’t going very far.
Pettite and the #5 are issues as well. Igawa is gone, so things are looking up. Is Cashman going to bring up Hughes? Or will he go with the Karstens et al experiment again till he has no choice but Hughes.
Mussina is a useless and really needs to be moved to the bullpen, but he would never survive in the bullpen due to his type A style of being.
Yanks just don’t have the pitching to win. 3 out of 5 are question marks each start. The bullpen is not consistent other than a small handful.
These offensive slumps aren’t helping either. You don’t go from scoring 32948 runs in one week to getting shutout and then almost shutout right after. That just isn’t a sign of a winning team. You need either pitching or offense. The Yanks lose one or the other consistently and why it took them 1/2 a season to get over .500
I love watching them, but am expecting a post season without the Yankees. Not that it’s a bad thing, just the way things roll in baseball. Can’t be in the playoffs every year and we have been very lucky this past decade and I am not greedy and will still love them if it doesn’t happen this year. There is always another season.
Pete,
Have you heard about what Canseco said about A-Rod????? Here is an excerpt that I got from waswatching.com:
Jose Canseco, author of ‘Juiced’ and purveyor of the juice, made a few of the shows on the media circuit today. One was the WEEI (Boston) ‘Big Show’. (First blog to point this out is here)
Canseco answered Curt Schilling’s charges, then he talked about other subjects. One was Alex Rodriguez.
Canseco says he is coming out with a new book, with much more information. Canseco shows no great love for A-Rod as evidenced by his comments.
Canseco says this about A-Rod:
“I have other stuff on Alex Rodriquez” and “He is not whom he seems to be”.
The announcers asked Canseco directly: “Has A-Rod ever taken steroids”
Canseco: “Wait and see”
Is Jose Canseco implicating Alex Rodriquez as a PED user? He certainly hints at it above, in his new book which will be “better than the first book by a mile”
Canseco talks about A-Rod at about 20 minutes into the interview. He says his new book will be titled ‘Vindicated’, with ’10 times more information’
As someone said, if Canseco really had dirt on A-Rod, he would have put it in the first book because he couldn’t have known that anyone would believe him enough for there to be a second book someday.
Well I found a positive, Guthrie was one of my fantasy starters tonight
Anyone else sick of the YES crew talking about what great stuff Proctor has?
As bad as YES can be, Sterling and Waldman may be the worst broadcasters and the stupidest people EVER!
You can take what they know about baseball, put it in a thimble, and have room left for a thumb.
They are offensive.
I might chalk Proctor’s poor outing up to his lack of work after being home with his wife & kids. He went two-thirds on Wednesday night (only eight pitches) and before that, last pitched on Sat. 7/21…so it may have been rust. Either way, bad…but it’s not only Mariano who needs steady work.
And you got to get more for Scott Proctor than TY WIGGINTON! Proctor would be the top guy in the pen on a number of teams, can play under pressure, great competitor.
What’s the NYY W/L record, first game of a new series, this season? I’m betting it’s really bad. They are an old tired team & I think some of them are out partying. Better win Sat/Sun or they will be going home early. . ..
The Yankees have had serious discussions with the Rangers about reliever Eric Gagne, two major-league sources confirmed Friday night. Gagne is closing for the Rangers but would be a setup man for Mariano Rivera if he were to come to the Yankees. If the Yankees could add Gagne, the back end of their bullpen would be hugely upgraded.
The teams have not been able to agree on a return for Gagne but can continue to haggle over players until the 4 p.m. Tuesday non-waiver trade deadline. The Rangers want pitching in return and have interest in minor-league righthanders Ian Kennedy and Jeffrey Marquez. They also like centerfielder Melky Cabrera, but the Yankees are unlikely to surrender him for Gagne.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....orts-print
I hope Cashman doesn’t surrender Jeff Marquez or Ian Kennedy for an injury-proned relief pitch like Gagne.
Every game that goes by sees less wiggle room for the Yankees. The sense of urgency can’t get lost. Every game is a jump start. A good deal or two by Cashman could re-energize the team.
I hear jose is planning a book on the loch ness monster, too. And he found the WMDs in iraq.
he’s announced that book two years ago. “source”:http://72.14.253.104/search?q=.....=firefox-a
and he says he’s still working on it? it doesn’t take that long to complete a book, especially when he’s working with ghost writers.
it reminds me of a sportscaster who ran into jose at the LA skybar a couple of years ago, and jose insisted that various teams where trying to sign him to a big league contract.
thankfully, all the trade talk will be over in three days.
it’s worse than endless NFL & NBA draft speculation.
Kenji Johjima and Ichiro both expressed pleasant surprise in the clubhouse after overhearing a TV report about the Mariners’ rumored trade interest in Yankees pitcher Kei Igawa, who is also Japanese.
WASWATCHING.COM
GET ADAM JONES, CASHMAN!!!!!!! If not Adam Jones, just make the trade happen.
_Mariners’ rumored trade interest in Yankees pitcher Kei Igawa, who is also Japanese._
I think iggy’s stock value crashed this week, along with the rest of the market.
I imagine a prime reason the yanks bid on iggy was to expand merchandising to the world’s 2nd largest market.
Frosted Flakes–Ummm….Iggy had value???? LOL, kidding.
The Yanks should go with what they’ve got and keep all the kids. A bullpen guy or another first baseman is not going to be what get this team through to the WS. Pettitte HAS to step up. Mussina HAS to step up. Hughes has to contribute. If these things happen they can win with what they have now. If they don’t happen, do you think even Texiera and Gagne can offset the starting pitching and they’ll win? The answer is no.
They could really use Teixiera, who kills lefthanders.
Canseco appears desperate to make a name for himself. He is a joke.
Why don’t the Yanks get Jeremy Guthrie? They could have in 2001, when he was drafted by the Pirates in the 3rd round but didn’t sign. Where were the Yankee scouts?
If we can trade Mussina,Phillies perhaps,it would pave the way for Hughes,Chamberlain,and Kennedy to move into the the rotation.The future is now,I believe we can win,if not this season,certainly next year and beyond would look good.The Moose wouil;d I believe OK a deal to the Phils,if only we could flesh it out and nab Rowand or Bourn,but I guess thats wishful thinking.So long Shea Hillebrand,we hardly knew ya.
MMMMMMMMM …………IMO, you will be pleasantly surprised by the last 2 months of the season….
If we can get rid of the dead weight that is Farns, then we have a chance. We need a bullpen that isn’t afraid to throw strikes. Chris Britton and Jose Veras are coming back from injuries so that helps. Getting a right handed bat like Ty Wigginton can help a lot against lefties. Our starting pitching is fine because Iggy is in Scranton. Pettite had a few hiccups but he pitched well last night. Mussina is a question mark because we don’t what we’re going to get on any given night.
One can only hope that the Mariners will take Igawa off the Yankees hands.
Cashman would be smart to make that deal and correct a expensive mistake he made.
I don’t know if I see it happening and the higher ups letting Igawa be traded only cause of the money they spent just to talk to him.
I think they still have hope in him and expect him to improve next season.
I don’t see it happening. This is what Igawa does. It works in Japan, but not in the states.
The Yanks are not getting Texiera because they are smart and not going to overpay. Gagne is a good pickup if they can get him cheap. He is a FA at end of the season so it is a rental…
Proctor for Wigginton I pass. Ty is a good player but not that good.
I try to trade Kyle and someone else from the pen…1 addtl righty bat would also help.
The angels will miss Molina right now, Napoli got hurt…Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I may be in the minority opinion on this, but I beleive Kyle Fransworth will turn it around and will be effective in the bullpen like last year. He pitched OK in the last couple of outings. Remember what happened with VizCaino.
As far as Scott Proctor is concerned, the sooner we trade him the better it is. His arm is shot due to over use by Torre and will be like Tanyon and others Torre abused and killed thier careers.
We still need a reliable arm in the bullpen. It could be Gagne or Joba if trading deadline passes without any acquisition. There is always the possibility of Ramirez coming back if he can harness his fastball. Of all the guys demoted, Ramirez is the only guy who does not seem to have lost his confidence and is pitching well. May be, his personality is like Melky who went through the same.