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	<title>Comments on: Proctor out, but Gagne not in</title>
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		<title>By: Nettles'78</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/07/31/proctor-out-but-gagne-not-in/comment-page-3/#comment-90761</link>
		<dc:creator>Nettles'78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey all.. first post.  Read most of the posts.  Anyone else concerned about preserving Joba&#039;s arm and the different type of strain, wear &amp; tear becoming a reliever may bring about?  His makeup in the bigs is entirely unkown and untested at this point.

Betemit is a nice player and should fit in well with the team.. I agree wholeheartedly with the poster who said to deal Proctor now while he still has some value.

Cashman must bring back at least one experienced arm before 4:00 pm today for the pen.. Doesn&#039;t have to necessarlily be a Gagne, Cordero or Marte.. but we&#039;re gonna need some other options other than the kids, MO &amp; Viz.. I&#039;d love another lefty besides Myers, Villone &amp; Henn.  If they can&#039;t bag one of the better setup options.. I say bring in two functional relievers including a lefty and roll the dice.  Proctor was simply not gonna get in done no matter what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all.. first post.  Read most of the posts.  Anyone else concerned about preserving Joba&#8217;s arm and the different type of strain, wear &amp; tear becoming a reliever may bring about?  His makeup in the bigs is entirely unkown and untested at this point.</p>
<p>Betemit is a nice player and should fit in well with the team.. I agree wholeheartedly with the poster who said to deal Proctor now while he still has some value.</p>
<p>Cashman must bring back at least one experienced arm before 4:00 pm today for the pen.. Doesn&#8217;t have to necessarlily be a Gagne, Cordero or Marte.. but we&#8217;re gonna need some other options other than the kids, MO &amp; Viz.. I&#8217;d love another lefty besides Myers, Villone &amp; Henn.  If they can&#8217;t bag one of the better setup options.. I say bring in two functional relievers including a lefty and roll the dice.  Proctor was simply not gonna get in done no matter what.</p>
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		<title>By: S.o.S.27</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/07/31/proctor-out-but-gagne-not-in/comment-page-3/#comment-90662</link>
		<dc:creator>S.o.S.27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tigers havnt done anything. Gagne going elsewhere, maybe 
this is the time where they take Farns from us or maybe 
the Brewers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tigers havnt done anything. Gagne going elsewhere, maybe<br />
this is the time where they take Farns from us or maybe<br />
the Brewers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/07/31/proctor-out-but-gagne-not-in/comment-page-3/#comment-90655</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>according to espn and buster olney, gagne is pretty much going to the sox.  we need to get rid of farnsy dont we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>according to espn and buster olney, gagne is pretty much going to the sox.  we need to get rid of farnsy dont we?</p>
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		<title>By: S.o.S.27</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/07/31/proctor-out-but-gagne-not-in/comment-page-3/#comment-90651</link>
		<dc:creator>S.o.S.27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,
I heard he went to Boston as well. Im glad to see Cashman 
is not giving up Horne or Cabrera for dl waiting to happen
Gagne. I think we are better off with Joba comming in 
anyways.

Now all im asking for Cash is to trade of dfa Farns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,<br />
I heard he went to Boston as well. Im glad to see Cashman<br />
is not giving up Horne or Cabrera for dl waiting to happen<br />
Gagne. I think we are better off with Joba comming in<br />
anyways.</p>
<p>Now all im asking for Cash is to trade of dfa Farns.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deep to Left,

MLB.com has 25.  I think that&#039;s as official as you&#039;ll get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deep to Left,</p>
<p>MLB.com has 25.  I think that&#8217;s as official as you&#8217;ll get.</p>
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		<title>By: keep posting</title>
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		<dc:creator>keep posting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my question, then...is the overwhelming feeling:
1) only some of these prospects will make it, that&#039;s why we should hold onto as many as possible (law of averages)
2) all of these guys will be studs in time and will fill out the NYY rotation in &#039;09-&#039;10

Given the history (state din #1), I can&#039;t believe anyone seriously considers #2.  With that, if you&#039;re gonna guess that some will make it and others won&#039;t anyway, why not guess which one or two is better suited long term and hold on there?  Making your entire top-2 tier prospects untouchable is a bit of a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my question, then&#8230;is the overwhelming feeling:<br />
1) only some of these prospects will make it, that&#8217;s why we should hold onto as many as possible (law of averages)<br />
2) all of these guys will be studs in time and will fill out the NYY rotation in &#8217;09-&#8217;10</p>
<p>Given the history (state din #1), I can&#8217;t believe anyone seriously considers #2.  With that, if you&#8217;re gonna guess that some will make it and others won&#8217;t anyway, why not guess which one or two is better suited long term and hold on there?  Making your entire top-2 tier prospects untouchable is a bit of a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: BBB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BBB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info. about Ohlendorf E-Roc.  I&#039;d read somewhere (here, I&#039;m sure) that he had a great sinker and got all excited about seeing him soon, but I guess that was premature. It&#039;s great they think he can help in the future though. Looks like all the bashing of the Randy &quot;Out for season&quot; Johnson trade was also a wee bit premature! 

Anyway the more I read about Betemit the more I like him. That kind of OPS in a pitchers&#039; park?!  F yeah!!! Where do we sign?  Oh wait we already did :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info. about Ohlendorf E-Roc.  I&#8217;d read somewhere (here, I&#8217;m sure) that he had a great sinker and got all excited about seeing him soon, but I guess that was premature. It&#8217;s great they think he can help in the future though. Looks like all the bashing of the Randy &#8220;Out for season&#8221; Johnson trade was also a wee bit premature! </p>
<p>Anyway the more I read about Betemit the more I like him. That kind of OPS in a pitchers&#8217; park?!  F yeah!!! Where do we sign?  Oh wait we already did <img src='http://yankees.lhblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gagne is off to Boston.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gagne is off to Boston.</p>
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		<title>By: E-ROC</title>
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		<dc:creator>E-ROC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep Posting--Nobody is saying that there is a problem with dealing AA pitchers. Alan Horne is close to untouchable as BC said. So Jeff Marquez and Clippard and possibly a third prospect for Gagne is enough, IMO. There are other relievers out there to be had for the right price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep Posting&#8211;Nobody is saying that there is a problem with dealing AA pitchers. Alan Horne is close to untouchable as BC said. So Jeff Marquez and Clippard and possibly a third prospect for Gagne is enough, IMO. There are other relievers out there to be had for the right price.</p>
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		<title>By: E-ROC</title>
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		<dc:creator>E-ROC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Newman (I think that&#039;s his name) said that Ohlendorf is far off, but he still needs to get command of all of his pitches. That&#039;s the only thing holding back. Obviously, he opened a lot of eyes in the organization with the increased velocity. I guess Peter Gammons was right about Ohlendorf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Newman (I think that&#8217;s his name) said that Ohlendorf is far off, but he still needs to get command of all of his pitches. That&#8217;s the only thing holding back. Obviously, he opened a lot of eyes in the organization with the increased velocity. I guess Peter Gammons was right about Ohlendorf.</p>
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