Game 108: White Sox at Yankees
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Here is the lineup:
YANKEES
Damon DH
Cabrera CF
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui LF
Posada C
Cano 2B
Betemit SS
Phillips 1B
Clemens RHP (3-5, 3.92)
Pregame chatter: Jeter is just getting a day off. He has a few minor injuries including a sore shoulder. … As you may have heard, A-Rod is 0 for 21 since hitting his 499th home run. But he shouldn’t feel too badly. It took Jimmie Foxx 61 at-bats to get to 500 and Harmon Killebrew 43. … Shelley Duncan is the first player to hit five homers in his first 22 at-bats since Graig Nettles did it for the Twins in 1968. … Jorge Posada is 12 of his last 31 with three homers and 10 RBI.
UPDATE, 1:16 p.m.: 94 balmy degrees here in the Boogie Down. First pitch at 1:09. There was a moment of silence for the people in Minnesota killed in the bridge collapse.
UPDATE, 1:18 p.m.: Jason Giambi will play for Scranton tonight. He’s unlikely to join the Yankees before Tuesday. Joe Torre said he had no idea what move they would make to clear a spot for him.
Nice hand for A-Rod as he comes up here. At least here won’t be any flashbulbs.
UPDATE, 1:31 p.m.: Fortune Magazine is out with a story on the Yankees that claims the YES Network is for sale and speculates that the Yankees could be as well.
Hal Steinbrenner is quoted in the story saying the team is not for sale, however. He repeated that stance at the Stadium the other day.
I spoke to Steinbrenner family spokesman Howard Rubenstein today and he said emphatically that the team is not for sale. He also denied that YES is for sale.
UPDATE, 1:41 p.m.: I’m sure we’ll find out officially soon enough but that has to be the worst start of Clemens’ career. Unreal.
UPDATE, 1:52 p.m.: Here is the pregame press conference from Joe Torre:
UPDATE, 2:05 p.m.: I love how people are moaning the game is over after the Yankees scored 16 on Tuesday and 8 yesterday. The Chicago bullpen is a mess. They can still win this game.
Secondly, anybody complaining about Jeter not playing needs to learn more about the game. He has assorted minor injuries including a sore shoulder. It’s 94 degrees, a day game after a night game, and he hasn’t had a day off since April 26. This isn’t Game 7 of the Series, it’s game 108 against the White Sox. Calm down. You have to manage for the entire season, not Aug. 2.
UPDATE, 2:32 p.m.: Hideki Matsui was named the AL Player of the Month. A-Rod won the award in April and June. He hit 345 with 13 homers and 28 RBI and scored 31 runs. This is his first Player of the Month award.
Matsui wins a 52-inch LCD-TV from Sharp. I’m sure he’ll find a use for it.
UPDATE, 3:18 p.m.: Jim Thome left the game with back spams. Tough break for the Yankees as Scott Podsednik is 2 for 2 with an RBI.
UPDATE, 3:20 p.m.: Jeff Karstens (3.1 5 3 3 0 1) needed to do a better job than that. There’s a lot of competition for the bullpeb jobs now. But the Yankees have four innings before they need to worry about Bobby Jenks.
UPDATE, 3:46 p.m.: Bobby Abreu doesn’t hit many homers. But when he hits them, he crushes them. That’s now 15 jacks in three days for the Yankees.
UPDATE, 4:10 p.m: That was bad baseball all the way around. Abreu should have taken that pop because he would have had a better angle on the throw. Meanwhile Richar should not have tagged on Cano’s arm.
I don’t get the sense the Yankees are winning this game, however. But if they do, it’ll be A-Rod who wins it.
UPDATE, 4:14 p.m.: If you’re Matt Thornton, how can you walk impossible-to-walk Robbie Cano up two runs in the seventh inning? Ozzie Guillen must hate his team.
Meanwhile, we’re headed for 1,000 comments on this post. I enjoy the fact that I’m ruining so many productive working hours.
The crowd went nuts when Bob Sheppard introduced Derek Jeter as the pinch hitter just now. The people love the captain.
UPDATE, 4:22 p.m.: The White Sox are dropping like Paris Hilton’s skirt. In addition to Jim Thome (back), Darin Erstad (leg cramps) and Alex Cintron (upset stomach) are out of the game.
Meanwhile, Damon just hit a rocket that Konerko turned into a double play. Now it’s up to Krazy Kyle to hold the deficit at two.
UPDATE, 4:41 p.m.: I have no idea what to write about Farnsworth at this point. You can’t just release him, not with $7 million owed to him. But you simply can’t trust him to pitch at this point.
Trading for Gagne at that price made no sense whatsoever and still doesn’t. But Brian Cashman is going to need to find somebody else this month via waivers.
UPDATE, 4:47 p.m.: If Alex hits No. 500 here he’s going to get a load of trash from the tabs.
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Hope the fireworks continue for Roger. The team owes him some wins.
I am surprised Jorge is playing today.
With Odalis Perez on the mound tomorrow and Abreu a weak 3-27 lifetime against him, I imagine Abreu gets the day off tomorrow with Duncan DHing, Damon in CF and Melky in RF. Joe probably figures Molina plays tomorrow night vs. the lefty giving Posada a full day off between today and Saturday.
here’s your ‘audition’ mel!
foxsports has a report on Sheffield having an injured shoulder…numbness in his right hand everytime he swings and he can’t generate power. He admitted that the this is the first time a cortisone shot hasn’t helped at all, and that he is looking at things from a long term perspective because the short-term doesn’t look so hot.
maybe that trade wasn’t so bad afterall.. 30million for damaged goods?
Marc,
I agree. Joe’s use of Posada rivals his overuse of the bullpen. Perhaps when Joba gets here, and if he produces, Cashman should have a chat with Joe
True, Jorge will likely get tomorrow off and be in there to catch Hughes on Saturday.
Saucy,
Let’s hope he plays good enough to get a call back! lol.
If Sheffield hits the DL and isn’t available for all the Yankees/Detroit series this month, then you better believe it’s a win for Cashman.
It’ll be fun to see Betemit at SS today. Jeter deserves the day off.
It would have been more fun for Torre to pencil in Arod at SS and let him try for his 500th as a SS, with Jeter having the day off, but we all know that would never happen.
I think it might be a good idea to give A-Rod a breather today…The guy is obviously pressing and the chase for 500 is getting to him. A day off might help him relax a little.
I’m glad to see Betemit in the lineup.
I would have liked to see Johnny “WAAAAH I’m not starting” Damon get another day off, just for grins.
I like what I see from Molina… he’s gunning guys down. and provides much more hitting ability than Nieves – which is nice.
maybe Posada is refusing to come out of games later on? it is definitely good to see Jeter, A-rod, etc getting some innings off in these blowouts.
Betemit over Cairo is also a nice plus
Youd figure they would get Jorge a day off, with the heat and all. Who is pitching for the Sox today?
Chicago Dave,
They probably will give A-rod a breather soon, but he supposedly owns Garland.
How many games has Molina started since we got him? One or two? Guess Jorge’s hot bat is keeping Molina out of there…
Joe — i think that would have been great as well — A-Rod at short haha
Go NYR – Garland is going for the Sox.
It makes sense that Posada is playing today. That way he can catch Hughes in the day game on Saturday.
Josh – Ahhh…That’s a good point!
HELP! Does anyone know a site where I can listen to (or even better watch) the game. At work and would love to be able to do either…
As long as Molina gets the start tomorrow night, I don’t have a problem with Posada playing tonight. I was slightly against the Yankees getting Betemit because of the potential log-jam once Giambi and Mientkiewicz return (please don’t send down Shelley!), but the lineup definitely looks better with Molina and Betemit in there instead of Cairo and Nieves. We’ll see what moves are made when everybody comes back healthy.
If I was managing, Mientkiewicz and Cairo would be the odd men out.
Andy Phillips has superb defense at first, and he has a MUCH better bat than Mientkiewicz..he has really turned it around..This is the best I have ever seen him play.
Wilson Betemit isn’t hitting much worse than Cairo’s .255, he has done really well in pinch-hit situations, and he has great power.
I don’t see how you can send Shelley down either, since he’s literally hitting the seams out of the baseball. 7 hits as a Yankee and 5 are home runs. WOW.
Kason Gabbard on the mound for Texas. Hope that Texas’ gain will be Boston’s loss.
Gabbard’s a garbage prospect
Shelley Duncan is the new Shane Spencer! (This means that as soon as his homer-hitting streak comes to an end, the Yanks won’t have much use for him.)
Skinny Mike..I don’t know about listening to the game (Do you have access to an AM Radio? 620 AM)
But if your company allows you to install your own software, you can download and use SOPcast to stream mostly every baseball game.
Also I believe that Clemens is tough in terms of how he works. He has a cadence etc etc or something like that so maybe to throw Molina in there having not caught him before doesnt make a lot of sense and this way Jorge gets pretty much a full day off before he catches again on Saturday
Hopefully we can pull out the sweep today, although Konerko and Thome have hit Clemons REALLY well in their careers.
Brandon,
He may help us a lot today, ironically.
Boston’s trade might be benificial to the Yanks very quickly!
I love how Gagne was quoted in today’s Boston Herald as saying the Red Sox are the “best organization in baseball” and how Boston itself is the “best sports city” in the country. What an a-hole! Hope his arm breaks down before the end of the season…
They can’t give A-Rod a day off (that isn’t a team day off) until he hits #500 or the team is on the road. They have to give him every chance to hit that milestone at home.
LOL- At the SS idea I like it (and it would tie him with Ripken with the most overall HRs for a SS as well) but the uproar would be INSANE!
One last note: I love Ozzie Guillen (well sometimes) I read that he had the pitcher throw to first a couple times during some of Alex’s AB just to mess with the fans LMAO!
Maybe Jorge can DH tomorrow?
or I guess Shelley DHs tomorrow
Nah Jorge will get the full day off. Duncan will be in the line-up tomorrow.
heres to hoping that betemeee has a good day.
I love these afternoon games. Not sure the players do so much, but at least the team can relax this evening, have some fun tonight, and be well-rested for the Royals coming in tomorrow.
MArc don’t get me wrong I pray he pitches good in games that benefit us but Kason Gabbard is a Jeff Karstens nothing really special
skinny mike,
mlb.tv (pay) or p2p (no pay)
here’s the schedule:
http://www.myp2p.eu/MLB.htm
btw, you guys who watch from work, don’t your bosses monitor the computers?
5 of Duncans 7 hits are homers. That is crazy
What also is confusing about Joe’s use of Molina is: The last 2 games have been blowouts. Why not use Molina in the 9th? Cairo and Betemit came in for Jeter and Arod once the game was out of hand. I though the point of having a good defensive catcher was to play him and give your regular some rest.
Chance at the first sweep in a while today. LET’S GO YANKEES.
Let’s see if Cano has a lousy game, which always seems to happen when we have a day game following a night game. Too much partying, young Robbie!
Sheffield may be hinting at a DL stint just in time for when Detroit comes to the Bronx August 16-19 and avoiding the media and fans about his racial finger pointing. Verrrrry convenient.
A rod will hit 500 today, my feeling…..
Brandon,
Even if Gabbard is a #5 pithcer at the very least, Gagne, however, has not been “lights ou” this year and is comming off a major injury and on top of everything is only going to pitch 2 months!
all i know is all these espn guys calling him beteMIT are idiots… unless vin scully was mispronouncing his name. but i wanna stop hearing people mispronounce it
Sheffield is a d-bag. If only we had gone with Vlad over that headcase when we had the chance…
Hey guys,
hopefully we can go for the sweep today, though Garland has owed us thus far this season. Unfortunately I can’t follow the game with you guys (stupid soccer practice, in this case). If A-Rod hits dinger #500, I hope it’s a late-inning one… (after a single, double, and triple in his first 3 AB’s
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See you guys later.
Let’s go Yankees!
Lets go Texas Rangers!!
Darn, thats 2 innings in a row that Texas couldn’t get the Sac fly with a runner on 3rd with one out.
The Wild Card is getting real tight. Two behind Cleveland and getting closer.
as a lifer fan from Minneapolis, I need the game for a distraction. Knowing people on that bridge two hours… 30 minutes… 10 minutes… before, it’s just very nerve-wracking.
as anyone who’s read about this knows by now, it’s an “artery” bridge that’s central to traffic between Minneapolis and St. Paul. All thoughts, prayers, whatever that you can give to all of us here… it’s so much more humbling when it happens in your own backyard than when it happens miles away.
I’ll stop talking about it, since this isn’t the appropriate forum.
go Yanks.
keep after Boston.
1 World series in 89 years
Zero stanely Cups since 72
Zero NBA Championships since the mid 80s
Ill give them the Pats but thats all.
Best sports city in the country? No way
Boston’s #5 would be much higher in Texas.
Hey guys – found another Yankees site… Pete maybe you can link it.
http://www.pinstripepassion.com – apparently it’s a Yankees talk show… looks like they archive the audio too…
Some decent stuff there
Ouch, Jake Westbrook is now 1-6 with an ERA headed towards 6.00. Guess the Yanks don’t mind that they unloaded him for Justice after all!!
wait a minute WTF !!
I just looked at the lineup, WOW Betemit at SS, good luck Betemit I’m rooting for you even though I would have put you at 3B and Alex at SS but hey, go figure. GOOD LUCK.
please a-rod start small…just hit a single FGS.
At least Westbrook has thrown 45 pitches in 2 innings.
Brandon – you put Alex at SS, and you’ve got the weekend chalked full of “experts” with a hot story. I would think, anyway.
” I would have put you at 3B and Alex at SS ”
Do we really want to mess with his head now?
How can the Indians keep Westbrook in their starting rotation? Don’t they have any good minor league prospects they could throw out there? Just curious…
Go back a few days when the Yankees were still in the running to get Gagne and there were lots of positive comments on this blog about how it would be a great asset to the Yankee bullpen. Amazing how he became such a poor pitcher now that he is with the Red Sox!
I too am worried about Posada playing way too many innings. That it hasn’t hurt him yet is a bit of a miracle. Going all 9 innings in the heat in blow-outs seems crazy. (I assume there’s some emergency 3rd catcher who would be able to finish a game if Molina got hurt?) And giving Jorge today AND tomorrow night off wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world, especially if he could perhaps DH one of the two games. I am glad to see Jeter get the day off, though. He looks like he could use a breather. After A-Rod hits 500, he probably should get a rest, too.
Let’s see if Texas can complete the sweep on the Indians.
I definitely think Mienkietwicz (did I just spell that right?) and Cairo are getting DFA’d once Giambi comes back. Betemit is an upgrade over Cairo… and Mienkietwicz is useless with Phillips hitting. A platoon doesn’t make much sense since Phillips is better vs RHP.
Plus if the Yanks somehow won the WS… Dougie M isn’t giving the ball back!
Yeah, the Indians have tried out a number of options. Lee and Sowers, two guys who were supposed to be their 2-3 pitchers this year are currently in the minors.
There pitching after Sabathia and Carmona is terrible.
It is why the Yankees will pass them and everyone who picked the Indians for the playoffs will look foolish.
Ray- The guy is going to throw 20 innings, in a pen that has no issues. The impact of Gagne is very minor. He would have made a much bigger impact for the Yankees as it would have solidified the pen and the bridge to Mariano. The impact of Gagne to Boston is more important to them because it kept Gagne from NY
Why are we playing a day game ??
I know it’s getaway day, but there’s 5 night games tonight, and last thursday’s game in KC was held at night.
I hate day games, during the week.
brandon what are you talking about? switch a rods position for one game?
GO NYR,
Chia-pet begs to differ:
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....rade_wins/
Gabbard is actually ok prospect, but not much ceiling and guys like him tend to burn out fast (Maroth .. Robertson .. Wolf to a lesser extend)
Betemit in SS would be interesting, i’m pretty suer he’s a butcher there though, then again, he’s replacing the awsome SS prowness of Jeter and Cairo, so shouldn’t be too terrible.
and betemit knows how to play short AND theyre trying to make hima utility so since third was his main position with the dodgers, that would just be reinforcing what hes comfortable with
I think the Indans have Jeremy Sowers in the minors.
They play day games during getaway days. It’s kinda what they’ve been doing for hmmm 60 years.
Gotta say, Gagne looked really funny — that red spandex uni, just doesn’t go with that hippie hair cut and beatnik facial hair.
“The guy is going to throw 20 innings, in a pen that has no issues. The impact of Gagne is very minor.”
Say that the next time the Yanks lose a lead in the late innings.
Ray,
It’s human nature to be revisionist, but not everyone here was on the “Get Gagne” bandwagon.
top cat…. it isnt a getaway game kc is coming to new york
yes I would have put Alex at SS today and Betemit at 3B, because Alex has more experience at SS & it makes us stronger defensively. What is this BS about him switching positions would mess w/ his head ? not even the NY Post & Daily News can mess w/ his head now, only flashbulbs(LOL)
NYR
I will admit you make some good points about Gagne and his potential impact.
Loren – there are 5 _night_ games _also_ scheduled tonight and last thursday’s getaway was also at night.
TopCat,
I thought it was Bartolo Colon in Boston’s ‘pen last night!
loren thats true… BUT IT ISNT A GET AWAY GAME! why dont you people listen and look at the schedule
http://www.pinstripepassion.co....._point.php
You guys buy this take on Arod?
Gabbard isn’t even a prospect. He’s a 5th starter.
It was a terrible trade by Texas. Unless the 17 yr old becomes good.
well brandon thats why you arent a manager and joe torre is
You idiot, The artist formerly known as Ben from boston.
It’s a getaway game for Chicago, you stinking moron.
It’s a getaway game for the ChiSox though.
Lemme get this straight:
The Yanks lose 3 straight (one to K.C., 2 to Baltimore) then win 3 straight (one over Baltimore, 2 over Chicago) with a chance to sweep Chicago today (the least they could do after a 3-game losing streak), pull to within 2 games of Cleveland for the wildcard, and Jeter gets a complete day off because Wilson Betemit has to get a game in at SS? That’s ridiculous!
First when’s the last time Betemit played/ made a start at SS? Second has Torre ever heard of the DH? You know, that position which allows a player to start a game without playing the field. The one where you can still play half the game (hit and run the bases). He should start Jeter at DH so Jeter can rest his shoulder from obviously throwing. I realize Jeter needs a day off now and then but this is not the time and if he can play without a break for this long, considering how close the Yanks are to Cleveland, another game won’t hurt him. Jeter DH, Betemit SS > Damon DH, Betemit SS.
This is just another example of why I want Torre fired the moment the Yanks fail to make the postseason or get eliminated in the A.L.D.S. again if either happens. I’m so sick of his constantly changing up things that don’t need changing or sits guys who don’t need sitting like Shelley Duncan barely getting an at-bat last week after posting 3 HR and 7 RBI. Or Abreu sitting after a 3-hit game. Torre better hope Betemit doesn’t make an error or two which costs the Yanks the game or contributes to the loss that way and/or with a flop performance at the plate (0 for 4, 3 SO, 5 LOB), cuz if so this game will be all on him and another nail in his coffin as a Yankee manager.
You wanna rest Jeter from playing a game in any capacity?
Do it after the Cleveland series. Jeter could DH tonight and tomorrow, play SS Sat. through Tues. (first three are day games), then DH Wed. so he has two days off from the field going into Cleveland. This is not the time to take Jeter’s bat out of the lineup or reduce him to a pinch-hitter, sorry.
“Amazing how he became such a poor pitcher now that he is with the Red Sox!”
point to one post where anyone said he was a poor pitcher.
Moving A-Rod to SS for one game is just about the dumbest thing on this blog in quite a while.
That’s why you have UTL players like Betemit. So a player like A-Rod doesnt have to move from his comfort position.
It’s funny that someone actually wanted A-Rod to switch positions for one game. The guy is in the middle of a Gold Glove season at 3rd base and someone actually wants to mess with his mechanics!
Some people..
Texas with 4 hits in 3 innings, yet no runs.
Complaining about a day off for Jeter?
Get your heads out of your butts.
Guys need a day off now and again. They aren’t robots.
loren top cat said “we” so maybe youre the moron… how lady-like wordage. how is the streetcorner working for you? do you get dental as a benefit?
thank you josh! voice of reason
You can’t beat the morons who come out of the woodwork during a game here.
The mix of Sox trolls, morons, Met fans, depressing Yankee fans is just too much.
ben – it’s a getaway day for chicago.
I’m only yelling about this because who wants to play or view a game when during the hottest point of the day.
it’s 92° outside.
Remember how nasty the humidity was when CMK pitched against toronto on july 19th. He was exhausted by the 6th inning.
It’s not my fault you’re an idiot, The artist formerly known as Ben from boston.
But keep trying to prove you’re not. It’s comical.
uh, isn’t Loren a guy’s name?
doug who cares that they have a getaway game i thought this was a yankees blog
Move A Rod to SS, play Jeter everyday, why they playing in the heat
I don’t know which is worse
“First when’s the last time Betemit played/ made a start at SS? ”
he’s played SS twice this season and 18 games last season.
and we’re not talking about replacing Ozzie Smith here. Jeter is not having a good defensive season at all.
don’t want to argue about it, it’s just true.
I wonder if The Indians vs. Twins series will go ahead on schedule this weekend. What does everybody think?
LOL, Mel – true! I don’t why, but yeah gagne looks alot bigger in red, then in light blue.
oh top cat i get you. its just you used to pronouns to one noun. but now i get what youre saying. my mistake. and loren is a guys name i know. but hes still a feminine guy
didn’t Jeter get plunked a game or two ago in the tricepts?
Dang Indians score.. 1-0
I hope the Yankees add Damaso Marte through waivers.
Betemit is quite the butcher at SS, so I understood what Brandon was saying.
F’n Indians
Thanks gabbard.
sunny hows it going? atleast there is no rich or john today right?
A day off for Jeter is what is called a good thing.
This is why they traded for Betemit.
Top Cat,
Not only his rotund shape, but Gagne had his clown hair sticking out from under the cap. Actually Colon doesn’t have the clown hair anymore, but you know what I’m talking about.
hopefully Pete blocked his IP address.
Can we ban trolls like the artist formerly known as Ben from boston?
They really know how to ruin a board these people.
Afternoon all. Today is the day. Mark it down. Alex will hit #500.
C’mon guys. 1-0. Jake’s on the mound. Don’t worry. Relax and enjoy the day games. lol.
Gabbard already stinking up the joint. Nice trade Rangers.
Lets get the sweep today YANKS!!!!!
If Torre used his left hand to wipre instead of his right people would cry about it here.
Sometimes the guy can’t win.
Jeter’s UZR is -13, that is absolutely atrocious and puts him in the bottom 10 in the AL, next to luminaries like Manny Ramirez.
As a side note, Cano’s is 12, one of the best in the AL, behind Sizemore and a few others.
Some of the them are still in pre-school. They’ll be here later.
The Rangers should be worried because Jake Westbrook is such a shutdown pitcher.
jennifer. youre working right? how is sterling treating you?
Because defensive stats are so respected. Give us all a break about crap like UZR.
Anyone watching a game can see the yankee infield has been top notch.
Yeah i’m at work. Sterling hasn’t said a word yet, but i’m sure he’ll miss call some homeruns.
It’s so creepy when Al starts talking about Mr. Splitty. lol.
no matty because i actually put stuff into the blog unlike you. ive never even seen you before. im going to exercise my freedom freedom of speech so “suck it”
Gabbard is a 5th starter.
It’s amazing they didn’t go for Clippard or Marquez or both.
That’s what a poorly run team is though.
His left hand?? Damn, Torre IS insane. Fire his butt.
Fortune is reporting the YES network is up for sale. And the Yankees could be next (within 3-4 years)
http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/0...../index.htm
Another thing:
I hope the Yanks rotation going into Cleveland is Mussina/Pettitte/Clemens because if Hughes is starting Sat.8/4 (after Wang Fri.) the rotation through next Wed. before the Cleveland series starting today would be Clemens/Wang/Hughes/Mussina/Pettitte/Clemens/
Wang. The Yanks CANNOT have a kid who’s made 3 career M.L.B. start in the most important series of this season (Cleveland), they just can’t. It’s not fair to Hughes, and it could damage his psyche for who knows how long if he bombs? Him getting hammered in the opening game of that series could also be a huge blow to the Yanks and Cleveland would just have to split the next two games to win the series and gain another game on the Yanks. Also losses seemto snowball with this Yankees team. I could see them dropping the first game to Cleveland then getting hammered the next day, they’re not Chicago, K.C., or Toronto.
yea but jenn you have to worry about that on tv. i hate cameramen they make a ball look like a moon shot that will never land then they realize their mistake and you realize its going to fall 30 feet short
Maybe some of us aren’t trolls like you Benny. I would say suck it but I am fearful you actually will. You hack troll.
I guess its loren for guys and lauren (as in Hutton) for girls.
There’s nothing wrong with a feminine guys. First of all, the corresponding example would be a “tomboy” — and who didn’t love the tomboy in “10 Things I HAte About You?” Huh? HuH? Plus, my sister is a tomboy, and she rocks. Second, one of the biggest, baddest mama’s boys, ever, is the great Roger Clemens. And Rocket makes no bones about it, making it twice as endearing.
LOL @ The artist formerly known as Ben from boston
Thanks, Al, for the quick update!
What else do you got?
Boston traded for Gagne?
A-Rod has an opt out clause?
Okay this is the inning, that arod will hit it.
haha how am i troll?
eroc: sorry?
My name is feminine now? Ok, I guess. We all can’t be manly like Benji.
Ahhhh, nothing like sitting at my work desk and watching a Yankees game this fine day.
I love these Thursday day games…breaks up the monotony.
Go Rocket!
Hey for those stuck at work, I think you can watch Alex’s ab’s live over the net. go to mlb.com
top cat i apologize for jumping on your post but i didnt realize you were complaining that the yanks have a day game because the WSOX have a getaway game. i thought you meant the yanks. but no harm no foul
Torre Strikes again–I think you’re paranoid. Hughes will be fine.
hmmm
I think you need to get your head out of your rear cuz replacing Jeter with a guy who has started exactly TWO games at SS this year and 18 last (Betemit) is NOT a defensive upgrade from Jeter, it is a defensive downgrade.
Jeter > Betemit. I never said Jeter was Ozzie Smith. I said should be the DH today so the Yanks can still have his batting-title contender bat in the lineup.
Try reading what I wrote next time mor on.
Has anybody looked at Posada’s splits for this season? He had exactly 3 HRs and 15 RBIs in April / May / June / July. Very random if you ask me.
haha loren even top cat said so
Why can’t Hughes pitch in an important series?
A pitcher has the talent he can pitch anywhere. Anytime. He may as well get his feet wet since he’s going to be pitching some big games soon.
You really think a guy as competitive as Hughes would not want to pitch a big like the Cle game???
I watched Betemit play quite a bit out here in L.A……I don’t understand E-Roc’s claim that he’s a butcher….He is more suited for 3rd, as the was Chipper Jones’s caddy and did well……Very good stick, don’t be misled by this years’s BA….Excellent PH….He’s a very nice pickup…
Mel – Mr. Splitty. lol.
It’s got a stephen king, pet cementery vibe. In my mind, I see a really, really “hairy” ball living in roger’s attic.
That’s ok Benji. You just keep saying moronic things. It makes you seem Forrest Gumpesque. Maybe you can actually leave the basement during a game too. Ask your Mommy.
pat m, i have mlbtv and have come to love the dodgers and they have become a second team. i as well watched betemit play and idk what theyre talking about. hey pat how about that vin scully? dont you wish he announced for the yanks?
Im right with you Larry. Its nice to get paid to watch the Yanks!!! LOL!
“I think you need to get your head out of your rear cuz replacing Jeter with a guy who has started exactly TWO games at SS this year and 18 last (Betemit) is NOT a defensive upgrade from Jeter, it is a defensive downgrade.”
dude, all i meant is that it should be fine for ONE game.
no one is talking about this permanently.
Torre strikes again,
I was charting out Hughes’ potential starts for the month and Cleveland is the least of his worries:
KC – Aug. 4
@Cle – Aug. 10
@Balt – Aug. 15
@LAA – Aug. 20
@Det – Aug. 25
and the big one..
BOS – Aug. 30
at least he would be facing the Sox for the first time at home..
Betemit is a UTL infielder. He’s competent. If he had a glove like Vizquel he’d be starting somewhere. But he’s not Julio Lugo here.
wait loren haha are you trying to talk tough over a BLOG. now youre proving youre really tough
Why would they baby Hughes?
They only going to start him against last place teams???
Gabbard gets another big double play to end another threat.
Lets just get this over with. Its ruining A-Rods season
“Jeter > Betemit. I never said Jeter was Ozzie Smith. I said should be the DH today so the Yanks can still have his batting-title contender bat in the lineup.
Try reading what I wrote next time mor on.”
sure, try reading what *I* wrote.
never said it was an upgrade. nor did i say you said Jeter was Ozzie Smith.
just saying, for one day, it will be fine to replace Jeter at SS with a backup b/c Jeter is struggling defensively this season as well.
you need to switch to decaf i think, relax.
Pat M–Betemit doesn’t play good defense at short. I’m glad we traded for him. I was just merely pointing out that his defense at short isn’t all that great.
Top Cat,
I was thinking more like a lech vibe. He always talks about the opponents’ “nice young players”. And that orange hair. I’m just kidding of course. Al’s a good guy and the Yes booth is nice and loose.
O.K. guys, here it comes. It’ll be so sweet when it happens and the players will be REALLY happy.
Benji, you wouldn’t know what tough is sitting in that basement, 40 lbs overweight, and trying to hide the nudie mags from your Mommy. But nice try.
LOL –Loren. I can picture ben doing that. LOL
should have hit that one
Arod is REALLY slumping. 0-22 now. His average could slip under .290 after today.
For Ben of Bostons sake I hope that description is not fitting.
A-Rod could just use a single here.
actually im 18… im 170 lbs and im at my girl friends house. im positive youll make a crack about one thing in there so knock yourself out. e tu ansky! e tu!
Oh no, A-Rod. Another hitless game and the fans here will turn on you and start boo’ing again. You better get a hit fast!
Or maybe they’ll want to trade you because of chemistry reasons.
so, how’s 4th period working out?
dammit clemens
If Cashman has his way and not Torre, its an easy call when Giambi gets back, Cairo gets DFA’d. He has absolutely no role on this team. Betemit can back up at 2B, SS, and 3B; while Phillips can also back up 2B and 3B in addition to playing 1B. Giambi and Duncan can also obviously play 1B, and A-Rod could of course play SS in a pinch. Cairo must go and when he does it will officially be the end of the Enrique Wilson/Miguel Cairo era. Thank the Lord.
Guys why dont you lay off Ben? He’s as big a Yankees fan as any of us.
Benji, 18 with acne living with Mommy on the basement computer.
I didn’t think I’d be 99% correct with it. Ha. Good one, Benji. But calling that blow up doll you sleep with, your girlfriend? That’s lame.
Ben from boston, no need to apologize, we’re all friends, here.
I didn’t take it wrong at all.
Why this blog is the next best thing to Farrell’s corner bar in BKNY.
listen loren we dont need a biography of what you were doing when you were 18 okay?
If he can dish it out Andrea, Benji should be able to take it. If not he should keep his Mommy needing mouth shut.
That’s funny. Loren is right.
If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
loren and her blow up dolls. . .
this could get ugly here…
yanks will be lucky to get out of this inning only being down by 3 runs.
OK, what just happened. That is like 4 consecutive hits.
I’d rather listen to the NESN broadcasters than read Ben from Bostons “witty retorts”.
Clemens isn’t having a good day right now. 2-0 White Sox
Not a good way to start the game Roger.
this bores me… is it just me or does roger clemens have a good pickoff attempt for a righty
5 straight hits…
They’re down 2 zip. It’s over!
Relax, people.
jesus
come on roger
boy, clemens looks wretched so far. they’re teeing off.
Some outs would be nice.
Let’s go Raja!
Grind it out, Rog.
We can make up runs.
What is going on with Clemens ? I am at work and can’t see,,,is he just throwing meat up there and they are killing it OR are they hitting good pitches ? He JUST got the first out of the inning after allowing 3 runs and still has 2 runners on ? Clue me in, please…ALL….???
good play cano!
The forum’s weak today. Buncha trolls and no-nothings.
It’s early. He’ll be ok.
With the way out offense has been hitting, we’ll be fine today. Just keep em in the game Rog.
Looks like it might be one of those days.
Silver lining…we will crush THEIR pitcher next inning as he is cooling down BIG TIME !!! LOL !!!
He’s leaving the ball up in the zone… sox hitters are teeing off on him
however, clemens just made a heck of a bare handed play/shovel pass to get the out at home
We are going to get at least 7 today…but there needs to be an end to this carnage NOW !
How the heck did they score 3 runs, I left my desk.
Damit Roger!! Who made an error? Well maybe Alex will hit it out now.
this team’s gotta figure out how to go out and play well in day games. this is awful.
Glad to see Clemens pitching so well today. This could be a long afternoon.
Get Karstens up now Joe!
well, see you guys later.
clemens os way off today. that last splitter to thome was horrid.
everyone deserves to have a bad day even clemens.
UZR doesn’t lie, Jeter’s not a good fielder. According to adjusted WPA, he’s the 2nd most valuable hitter in the AL (behind guess who). Combining hitting and fielding leaves Jeter as the 8th most valuable player in the AL, right behind Posada.
http://vegaswatch.blogspot.com.....ition.html
Here’s the bottom 10 in MLB in UZR this year, from tenth to worst:
Mike Lowell
Dmitri Young
Ken Griffey
Derek Jeter
Rickie Weeks
Raul Ibanez
Hanley Ramirez
Manny Ramirez
Jeff Kent
Jhonny Peralta
http://www.insidethebook.com/e.....dated_uzr/
Wow Roger is god awful today. Paging Jeff.
Cano’s error cost three runs and 20 addtl pitches..
not looking good. clemens pitches are all up..
Good thing we’ve been scoring alot runs lately.
remember not to feed the trolls…
Why he still in?
6-0.
like i said, clemens is OFF today. all of his pitches are UP. he looks like igawa today.
and upside atleast we get to see some of the prospects at work
We are going to do much better with another pitcher in there today…this is something that needs to be fixed right now….Torre needs to come in and stop the bleeding ! Can anyone tell me WHY Roger is still pitching ? Does he REALLY have to give up 8 runs in this inning to be qualified to be given the hook ? Torre will need to make some better choices later in the game…DANG !
8 runs now.
Looks like a long, hot day.
take him out joe youre killing my fantasy teams era. are the booing roger?
mother of god, this is terrible.
on the bright side, we’ll get to see karstens, i guess.
Yeesh.. Cano really cost Clemons.
This game has HR no. 500 written all over it.
let’s… go… Texas…
Is this serious??
8 runs??
Wow I might be glad I can’t watch this game.
if cano didnt botch that double play, iit would still be 4-0 with the yankees batting.
This is completely unacceptable…..well..2 games out of 3 was not bad…Maybe with the game out of reach,,,A-Rod can get number 500…..WHAT THE HALE ? Rogers has given up 8 runs and still no HOOK ? Do we even have ANY arms in the bullpen ? Terrible managing….just awful…!!!
kaj im glad to see a friendly face apparently these “day people” think im a sox fan
When you give up 8 runs you deserve a boo’ing.
Atleast for anyone that has Clemons on their fantasy team it will only been 3 earned runs if this inning ever ends.
1 2/3 of an inning. Shortest outting of his career?
Do we see Karstens next inning? I think so.
Myers coming in now.
explain josh? and i always thought it was clemens?
Nice job Roger… love how they can’t finish anyone off and get the sweep
Wow!! This is really getting ugly
cano didn’t cost clemens. Clemens is a seasoned starter and should be able to get out of errors with no or minimal damage. How long until Karstens is in the game?
With the way they have been swinging the bats I’m hesitant to say it’s over.
My fantasy team just got destroyed.
oh alright josh i got it cause of cano… gotcha. and hear you bob
It can’t be that bad Bob, just your whip took a serious hit.
altho – i will say someone should have been in 4 runs ago.
Roger is paying for the humiliation endured by the Sox in the last 2 days. It almost looked like no harm no foul after the error, but 5 unearned runs.
Let’s go guys. Make it respectable.
WHy can’t the ysweep any series?
they have had the chance numerous times but so far no good.
rattachaway and other losers should be posting quite a bit today..
brutal inning.. the cano error was with a 3 – 0 score..
I don’t think Robbie got to bed last night.
do the Yankees even HAVE a manager today ? Are they just going to leave him in their until he gives up 20 ?? Torre is WAY OFF on his choice to let Roger Burn today…totally stupid…I can’t help myself on this….This is not a game you just want to give away in the 2nd inning ? Come on now,,,there are the stinkin’ White Sox…if THEY are lighting up ANY pitcher for 6-8 runs in an inning….isn’t is a bit obvious that the pitcher does NOT have it today ? stupid, stupid managin….totally !!!!!
ok, but its a fact that cano cost his team and clemens 4 extra runs with that weak play on the ball.
Cano cost Clemens but, Clemens cost Clemens more. Awful start. It happens. That’s baseball.
Big picture, they won the series which is the important thing. They aren’t going undefeated the rest of the year.
Just keep winning series and hope today is the day Arod hits #500.
Then, we can get back to baseball instead of celebration time for individual achievements.
guys start it off small… farnsworth…. farnsWORTH… FARNSWORTH! FARNSWORTH! FARNSWORTH!
So which is worse, a Sox fan trolling a Yankee blog, or an alleged Yankee fan who is such a jerk that people think he’s a Sox troll ?
To me it’s 6 of one and half dozen of the other.
Ok. Who hid Igawa in Clemens’ body?
KAJ good 2nd guess after the fact. classic..
it was 3 – 0 when Cano did his magic….
And here I was worried about keeping Garland as a starter today on my fantasy team based on what the Yanks have been doing. roger just didnt have it in any way shape or form today I guess everyone has one of those days.
The good news is that it is only the 2nd inning plenty of time epsecially with the chi sox bullpen the way it is
sherard you clearly havent seen me on this blog before.
Wow, I have not seen that out of the Rocket in recent memory.
Jesus Christ.
E-Roc, I agree SS is his weakest position…..Vinny Scully is the best ever, he does the game all by himself, no color guy, no anaylist, just pure poetry…I’m going to the Dodger game tonight…..Clemens is meat today….Cano’s botched DP took them out of any comeback toughts….Yanks seem to let up when they have won the first 2 games of a series…..
Myers is horrendous.
This game was jinxed before it started.
Posada shouldn’t be playing with the day game after a night game, and Jeter should be playing.
“When you give up 8 runs you deserve a boo’ing.”
they aren’t booing, they’re saying, “boooo-urns.”
Myers can’t get lefties out. What else is new? But he is good at getting righties out; lets see if this is true.
I dont’ get it. Roger pitched a 1-2-3, 11 pitch 1st.
maybe he was tipping his pitches, in addition to missing location.
Myers just isn’t good.
The artist formerly known as Ben from boston…..don’t they realize that you are just King Of Negative Nancies ??? ( LOL…joke ) Good to see ya, Ben !
I go with Yankee fan who is such a jerk that people think he’s a Sox troll as the worst of the two.
That means the guy is a real tool.
yea pat thats what im talking about he does it all by himself and its smart commentary. im always disappointed when theyre on the road cause i like listening to him
guys, it takes a little time to warm up a pitcher. you don’t typically start warming a pitcher up to come in in the 2nd. those runs tacked on fast. this is also probably why it’d meyers in, being a vet with the sub, he can warm up quickly. and now you see that karstens has been able to get his full warm up in
Myers doing his thing… way to be the lefty specialist..
god he stinks, he gets out righties but not lefties..
Myers comes in for one batter.
Karstens coming in now.
Myers should have been traded two days ago. he’s worthless. He cannot get a lefty out.
Ouch… 8-0
At least we win the series.
Clearly. You are really making an impression today though.
thank you kaj… we need you andrea, bbb, rocco, you know the whole gang back. these people dont understand me
OK…now I know that we are all mad due to our Yankees playing like a single A team today…let’s not start with the infighting….
This is not a manager’s game people. No manager wants to go to his bullpen in the second inning. It blows out the ‘pen for the weekend.
Its Roger Clemens, you let him find a way out of the inning, if possible. Its not like he hasn’t done it all year. His BA W/RISP going into this game was .175.
The most idiotic thing people can do, and it will be done ALL DAY here, is to attach so much importance over one game.
If they win, its “We are catching Boston”. If they get blown out its, “Torre has to go”.
Bottom line, they won the series, they are playing well and EVERY team has a day like this. Better its in a house money game.
The only thing relevent today is hoping Arod shakes his slump. The HR will come. However, he has to start hitting. Let’s hope he shakes it today and carries it through the weekend.
This is a joke right. I mean I understand this happens but 8-0 in the second come on. That was the worst start Ive seen by a Yankee in years. As bad as Clemens was I still feel Melky and Cano should have made those plays.
Leave your hasbeen starter Clemens in to give up 8 runs because you don’t have a clue as to how to manage a game when your starter doesn’t have it. I don’t wanna hear “Cano should’ve converted the 4-6-3″, you can’t assume that, and Clemens gave up 6 runs outside the 2 which scored after that E 4. Clemens had nothing today. Oh wait, Clueless Joe finally gets his green tea-sipping, bat-holding a ss off the bench and takes Clemens out after a double putting men at 2B and 3B…only to bring in the put z (Myers) when it should be Farnsworth brought in to pitch the next 3 innings.
He can’t even bring in the mopup man.
WAIT HE BURNS MYERS AFTER MYERS GIVES UP A WALK/ONE BATTER THEN BRINGS IN KARSTENS LOL. He couldn’t even get it in his brain to have Karstens ready to follow Clemens. Oh please fire this lamebrain. You telling me Larry Bowa couldn’t manager better? The Yanks miss the playoffs by one game, this is the game you must look back on. Time to release Myers or put him on waivers and see who wants him. Sean Henn must really su ck cuz why isn’t he taking Myers’s job.
Let’s all root for Texas to beat Cleveland this afternoon so this game means notihng to a degree cuz in all fairness to the only human Yankee offense, I don’t see how the Yanks are coming back to win today down 8-0 and counting.
Karstens !!!,,,,,,NOW that’s a pitcher !!!….He will get us out of the inning and we will get 4 in the bottom of the 2nd….YOU”LL SEE !!!
matching up in the second inning down by 8???? come on, joe
Myers is a waste of a roster spot. A specialist who cannoy get lefty’s out?
Why is he even on the roster?
Man, well the way we’ve been hitting, we have 8 innings to win this.
Worst case, we win the series.
Thats o.k, there are gonna be days like this.
It’s Torre’s fault Roger gave up 8 runs?
Wow.
Stop smoking crack.
We still have a chance if we repeat our performance in the past two days. *fingers crossed*
The Yankees can’t chip away at this lead???
Have you seen their bats lately???
KAJ scroll back a ways. It’s a little late for that. That horse is already outta the barn. “Suck it” was probably the highlight.
Nice job Karstens. Did his job!
OK….we have 8 innings to score 8 runs….CHASING 8 as we say in my Softball Leagues….Chasing 8 is doable…GO YANKEES !!!
“EVERY team has a day like this.”
true, but it seems like the yankees have had more than their fair share this year.
whoa… what an inning! Has Rocket ever had a worse start? He just didn’t have it today, and they really hit him hard. Is it too late for another home run derby?
Alright now let’s get those 8 runs back!
Yankees will win this game a la that Texas game last year
Umm….Sir that will cosy you a millionn dollars.
Well, lets see what kind of heart these guys have today.
Or do they take the day off and let Garland dominate them with an 8 run cushion.
i agree its only the 2nd inning – we can definitely make something happen here!!!
I am not watching the game (at work) but I can’t see how you can blame this on Torre. You expect a pitcher like Clemens to turn it around and you can’t go to the bullpen that quick.
I still think this should be Torre’s last season regardless of the ultimate outcome… time for a fresh (read: living) approach.
I already accepted that you AREN’T a troll. READ what I wrote.
“…or an alleged Yankee fan who is such a jerk that people think he’s a Sox troll ”
DING.
Sherard,
There is no talking to trolls like that guy. Once you acknowledge them they will never leave you.
sherard not once did you think that, with my back against the wall, i resort to this. if you had twenty people calling you a troll and stuff after writing on this blog for two months and not having people call you that. what would you do? exactly so youre the troll.
As SJ pointed out, it’s one game, rather get blown out than lose a close game….# 13 HITS # 500 and we move on….Remember guys it’s baseball, if you 40% of your games you’ve had a remarkable season…..2 out of 3 ain’t bad ( MeatLoaf )
Chicago needs 24 outs. With that pitching??
Hey if the white soxs can score 8 in one inning, we can too.
Well, Garland has been shaky – a 6.37 ERA in six starts in July.
okay, not so upset about not getting this on tivo…
rocco would you tell these people im not a bad guy
Garland is very cold…here comes the comeback…Nice Start here !!!
Cleveland up 2-0 bottom of the 6th last check -not insurmountable & plenty of time left for Texas. C’mon Texas!
I DEMAND 5-1 or 6-0 in the next 6 games from the Yanks!
what you get mad at torre for is brining in his LOOGY to match up with erstad down by 8 in the second. thats bad enough, the fact he took him out after a batter is just plain laughable.
I blame a-rod. If he had homered in the 1st, the momentum certainly would have been in our favor.
Ben from Boston, no one gives a rats about your issues or your plight. You clutter the board up with utter nonsense.
Hey this reminds me of a year or two back vs. i believe
the Jays, where we were down 8-0 and came back to win with
Possada’s last inning homer. We will comeback.Just
watch.
I just really wish Cano made that play. It would have been 3-0 instead of 8 and we would have won this game. But what can you do.
One thing you cannot do is give up this game. Like we can’t score 8 runs off Chi?
We needed a comeback victory. The first 2 were too easy.
That was a Texas game.
I don’t think you judge “heart” in an 8-0 game.
Unless, of course, you are a knee jerk alarmist and can’t take the fact they aren’t going to win the rest of their games this year.
Its one game. Go out and play in the sunshine and don’t whine about it. How do you think the White Sox feel after the first two games of this series? Or, did you think they are just going to hit 5-6 home runs every night the rest of the season.
Easiest game in the world to forget is a blowout. Just move on and take care of business over the weekend.
At this point, its all about the big picture. 58-50 with 54 to play. Go 36-20 the rest of the way, VERY doable, considering 30 of the games are against the Royals, DRays, Orioles and Blue Jays, they make the playoffs.
If they can’t do that, they don’t deserve to get in.
I forgot that Johan Santana was starting and not Jon 6 ERA Garland.
S.o.S.27
i said that already…
What’s that I hear? The theme from Rocky?
Chipping away…
Eeeeek…had to run some errands for work and was checking the score on my cell phone – just wanted to pop on here to make sure Clemens is not injured or anything! Everyone gets hit like that from time to time I guess, and ya gotta roll with the punches – I ain’t mad at him or anything but just want to make sure he is ok!
Also, don’t forget this is possibly the worst bullpen in baseball we’re facing. I think it could be even worse than Tampa’s. This lead looks pretty insurmountable but ya never know – stranger things have happened. Not scoreboard watching today but please kick ass in chowdatown Jeremy Guthrie!!
You cannot look at a season game to game.
Even the 98 Yankees lost some games. It happens.
Even when you got Clemens on the mound.
The goal is 2 out of 3 every series.
Here comes the come-back! Let’s get 8 in the bottom 2nd!
chip chip chip
BBB –
Clemens suffered a severely bruised ego – should be able to make his next start with no problem!
with only 54 games left, I don’t think it’s unimaginable that a-rod won’t hit another homer.
Chasing 7…SEE ?…Peter, get ready for the “Was that one of the best comebacks you’ve been involved in” questions…..Chasing 7 and STILL nobody out ! Sweet !!!
Chip away.
Get into that bullpen.
Which makes our pen look dominant.
Nice entrance for Wilson!
CHIP CHIP CHIP 8-4 CUT IN HALF
Sorry,thought it was against the Jays.
The bottom line is we will comeback and win this thing.
You can have the copy rights.
looks like that trade is paying off
Also, this is random but to anyone who followed the TEX/CLE game last night. Don’t know who had the game winning hit(s) for Texas, but I couldn’t help but notice our old friend Frank Cattalonatto (NYer who used to kill Boston when w/Toronto) had several hits and RBI’s! He is always tryna help the Yankees out it seems – I am officially declaring him an honorary member of the team. Frank the Tank – help us out again today pls!
Welcome to New York Mr. Betemit.
NICE AUDITION!!!
Welcome to New York!
now THAT is an audition !!!! Chasing 4 !!! We got them JUST where we want them !!! LOL !!!
Sterling:
YOU CAN BET ON BETEMIT!!
Hello Wilson Betemit
JUST AS I SEND IT…A BETIMET BOMB!!!!!
Watching the updates on the internet (on TV/Radio)…. wow… nice first AB for Betemit…. this game is just beginning.
Uff. Sterling had his call all ready: “YOU CAN BET ON BETEMIT!!11!ONE!!” as Suzyn Waldman is brought to near tears. I can’t stand these two.
wow, garland is possitively mussina-esque right now.
Ohhhhh snap! Chip chip chip!!! And I don’t even have Gameday on cause I thought today was already a done deal. Shame on me of little faith!!
LET’S GO YANKS!!!
I’m going to go out on a limb
and state that
A-Rod will hit another homer this year
Quote me
I think that just made Betemit-Proctor trade worth it.
Who was the guy that called we score 4 in bottom 2?
4 more now, let’s go Yanks!
Not a bad pickup.
yeah, Betemit is no Cairo…
Now we have a ballgame! I like this new guy! Great for the Yanks, not so good for Cairo…..
hahahaha Sterling really said bet on Betemit? I love it!! NICE TRADE CASH!!!!
WOW, what kind of game are you guys having down there?
I do laugh at the unfaithful and the depressing.
I don’t see how you can say coming back from a big deficit isn’t about heart.
here is MY point…I would be willing to BET that the SOx manager takes out HIS guy BEFORE he gives up 8 runs….
Is this the GREATEST Game of all time or what ??!!
Keep the line moving!!!
lucky for us, garland is have a “good” a game as clemens
We’ve quickly found out why Miguel Cairo isn’t needed anymore.
just out of curiosity (anyone) – what is the record for the most runs in single inning?
EY ,..,,,,that was ME…although I think I was way low on the run count that will actually happen, sorry ! LOL !
I know this is the definition of a small sample size, but I’ll reiterate what I said over the weekend and on Tuesday: Betemit is a very good hitter, better than Damon, Melky, Phillips, or Cairo. Great trade by Cash.
What was wrong with Roger? I am watching Gameday.
Wilson Betemit immediately steps in and states “Nobody disses me and my new homies. Nobody, Jon Garland. Fool.”
OK,,,Damon Haters….stay silent…it was ONE AB…
and Karstens will bang his fist!!!
Damon Haters look at the whole season not one AB.
And Damon strikes out after his big mouth yesterday
Let’s go Melky and Abreu. Load the bases for an A-bomb.
LMAO Wolf. Betemit is gangsta!
now *that* would be a good 500
How nice would it be for Arod to get his 500th to tie this game.
Baby Bombers, _ROCK!_
they even have baby grillz.
Melky hits another one. Get on base, Abreu, and get ready for Arod’s 500th!
I’m not a “Damon hater”, he is a below average hitter this year. He has an OPS+ of 84, that is horrendous, especially for a DH. He should sit on the bench.
damn, a-rod could be up for an automatic out. there goes the rally.
just keep making garland throw a ton of pitches. get into there pen as soon as possible
The record for runs in a single inning is 17, set by the Red Sox. I believe it was in the late 1950s.
Grand slam by A-Rod for 500…just watch…
Looks liek Ozzie is looking an awful lot like Torre at the moment – leaving Garland dangling.
BBB-
actually, I think he said, “how you like me know, _beyatch”_
No one in MLB history has hit a grand slam for their 500th before.
Also, what is Ozzie going to do? We’ve already ripped their bullpen this series, they can’t pitch 7 more innings today.
CHIP CHIP CHIP
8-5
Please A-Rod don’t GIDP! How about a homer?
Lets Go AROD!!!!!
What a weird game. Just give us a single, Alex.
Bob –
It is people bringing a college football mentality to baseball. Everyone acts like we should go undefeated. Ugh!
Nice Job El Comeldulce!
here we go
Way to battle, Abreu!
Bobby!
AROD ABOMB 500!
Damon’s whole season is terrible. So now what.
I would love to see the scoreboard watchers in Fenway when this inning is over! Here kitty kitty……
Guys, you HAVE TO see the Fangraph for this game!!
HERE COMES # 500
Oh boy…let’s go A-ROD!!!!
perfect
*mr burns*
eeeeexcellent. A-Rod’s 500th will be hit before the weekend is finished. Mark my words!
please no deer in headlights…anyone have a look at how his swing looks right now?
i’ll take it
Oh, Thank God, he got a hit!
PERFECT! I Love it! Not too much – but keep the line going!
first time he didn’t look like he was TRYING to hit a HR.
that’s a great approach.
A single, not an ABOMB, but we gain one still. Good job, finally breaking out of his slump.
Let’s go Godzilla!
NICE! with the of-fer outta the way it’s time to get back on track…
Nice work ARod. Wow – this game is incredible and we’re not through 2 innings yet.
How lucky are we that we just brought up Karstens?
that hit has got to be one big monkey off his back. Made good contact. Brought in a run. 500 will be here quickly.
they can’t be leaving garland in…
I call 500th for Arod on his next at-bat!
YAY ALEX BREAKING OUT OF THE 0-FER!
Hey Pete:
What’s the record for most runs scored in a single inning?
This rally is amazing.
To think some of us wanted to trade for Garland.What a mess he is.Thanks Cashman.
Wow. You have Rocket vs Garland and neither makes it out of the 2nd inning, that’s .. not what I expected.
HOW COULD YA? HOWWWWWWWW COULDYA PREDICT THIS!!!?
man, that error is killing me right now. oh well, can’t do anything about it. keep chipping away. it’s now a 2-0 game with 7 innings left. i’ll take that.
this game will be decided by the pens.. who would have thought that 20 minutes ago..
14 runs already in the 2nd.
which pen is worse? We will see..
WOW
Forget it! There’s no way we can solve the riddle that is Boone Logan!!!
BTW – who the f is Boone Logan?!
should try a double steal – nix the DP
To me that is the definition of clutch. You come in with no hits in your last 21 ABs and after all those ABs you get one single important situation and you get a hit. That is CLUTCH. IMO.
this is unreal. win or lose, this is a pretty impressive display by everyone in pinstripes. or, everyone not named clemens.
dammit, what a day not to set my tivo!
nothing happenning on gamecenter, pitching change going on here?
lucky for us, we have a decent starter in for our long man in Karstens. Hopefully he can keep them off the board until the 7th.
This is awesome…I thought the same thing!
TKinDC
August 2nd, 2007 at 2:17 pm
BTW – who the f is Boone Logan?!
Yes Garland out Logan in Jeff.
Huge AB here for Posada.
saucy, dude – i feel for ya, this has got to be one of the most wierdest games in a long time.
what is this ? they take out the starting pitcher BEFORE he totally gives up the lead ? what a concept ! A-Rod and that single was huge….He’ll get that Homer later in the game ( it is the flashes ! stop the flashes !!! LOL ! )…I hope that Karstens in staying warm….this needs to be a 20-8 victory for the Yankees….Chasing TWO !!…only chasing TWO !!!
nice call Sunny- Almost turn into a DP though
Nice call Sunny!
Hip Hip….
Back to Back HR’s for Boston. 3-0 Sux.
that would have been a great hit and run – if only…
Posada drives in the tying runs RIGHT HERE….GO JORGE !!! This Yankees team has NO HEART, right ??? ( sarcasm…joke only…sorry ! )
C’mon Jorgie. A single will do.
Who cares about Boston. lets go jorge!
Good call on the double steal!
This might be the craziest inning of basball I have ever seen
thanks guys
i thought after C went 1.2 with 3er and got pulled it was bad. Garland went 1.1 with 6er. amazing that that much suck can fit in one ballpark
Hip hip…
Unpossible!!!
Lindo posada!
wow
Hey what did I say!! They’ll score 8 in the inning!!!
I would take Garland any day. He could be a solid 4th or 5th starter for the Yankees. Today definitely isn’t a guage of who he is as a pitcher. He definitely got rocked though. =)
nice hustle dye rofl
our pen is fresher.
hey, remember that the next time you want to call abreu “lazy”…did Dye even break into a jog there?
TIE GAME!!
Even as a Red Sox fan or as you all most affectionately call a “troll” I will have to grant you that you guys have one very interesting going on right now!
man – if only these guys were on like this two/three months ago
TIED UP!!!!
Ok who would have thought Clemens gives up 8 runs in less than 2 innings and doesnt get the loss this ganme of baseball is unreal
the gutty gritty bronx bombers down eight have tied the game in the same INNING!!!!!!!!!!!
HIP HIP JORGE!!!
wow.
HOLY CRAP, Was this inprobably or what? The White Sox should be totally demoralized!
Rocket is off the hook
unbelievable.
Haha thank you for “granting” it to us. We’re not worthy!
I feel like Scully seeing Gibby hit one out off of Eck.
From Pete:
“UPDATE, 2:05 p.m.: I love how people are moaning the game is over after the Yankees scored 16 on Tuesday and 8 yesterday. The Chicago bullpen is a mess. They can still win this game.”
This guy Pete seems to know something about baseball, maybe he should be a writer or something!
Unbelievable!!!
well, this is one game I’m going to buy of MLB.com
It must be depressing for the White Sox to watch this unfold. Unreal!!
That is the way you follow up an 8 run inning. This team will not be denied.
OMG!!!
Didn’t Jorge’s hit look like it was slow-motion!
Unbelievable inning.
Okay, an 8 spot makes me very happy.
we need 4-6 good innings from Karstens. he can really earn his bullpen spot right here.
Who called that we score 8 in bottom 2nd? You win all my Internets.
8 ER on 9 hits for Garland. Bullpen vs. Bullpen. Let’s go guys.
“I don’t believe, what I just read as I refreshed my computer!”
sammy
August 2nd, 2007 at 2:23 pm
I feel like Scully seeing Gibby hit one out off of Eck.
Brand new game here ! Totally Sweet…Yankee Fans Unite !
still great job – c’mon karstens – no pressure dude. 5 innings of blankness please.
That was amazing.
Way to be, Yankees.
They must be freakin’ in Fenway!!
not to mention, Cleveland.
Hey guys, we’re looking at a new record — the diary/thread has *460 comments* and only two innings are in ‘da books!!
wow, i watch like every yankee game, and of course I am at work for this game!!!
and i cancelled my mlb.tv subscription haha. MAN!
Mr. Clemens:
You are welcome.
Signed,
Your 2007 Yankee teammates.
Hell, I personally love Damon. But I’m still going to be happy to see the new guy do well. Hell of a comeback here for NY so far. The run machine needs to play all 9 innings today though apparently.
waiting for someone to complain about how they do “just enough” to get back into games, but not enough to “lead games.”
heh.
an 8-ball to follow an 8-ball.
I love this game.
HIP HIP…atta baby jorge…lets got karstens
The ChiSox pen is horrible and has been used a ton so far in this series…we definitely have the upper hand
keep it comin…
Betemit hit a BOMB
Alright Karstens, this is why we put you in the pen. Do it.
*THIS TEAM HAS NO HEART*
interesting stats:
The record for most runs scored by a team in a single inning is 18, set by the Chicago White Stockings (now the White Sox) against the Detroit Wolverines on September 6, 1883.
The modern-day record is 17, achieved by the Boston Red Sox against the Detroit Tigers on June 18, 1953.
On August 25, 1922, the highest-scoring game in major-league history took place: the Chicago Cubs defeated the Philadelphia Phillies 26–23, a total of 49 runs.
EY-
_Who called that we score 8 in bottom 2nd? You win all my Internets._
Well, not to brag {{cough}} — but I did say:
“Well, Garland has been shaky – a 6.37 ERA in six starts in July” at at 1:54 pm
Great day to finally have a long man in the pen, gotta like our chances here.
i never say stuff like this but, you gotta think they win this game, right? i mean, how much of a disappointment is it if they end up losing this one, after what just happened?
Kaj,
Lucky thing you didn’t take that bet. lol.
8 more in the bottom of the 3rd.
well, whoever said that this team needed 6.91 runs per game to score 1000 for the season, is off to a good start.
nice 1-2-3 inning by Karstens
whoa. nearly 500 comments in two and a half innings?
Karstens out there to EARN HIS JOB!
3-up-3-down.
Looks like Cashman was right about not trading for any bullpen arms.
Help was just right around the corner.
way to go Karstens…time to get the hit train back on track..woot. woot!
Baltimore just tied it in Boston.
thanks ray that took class
Personally, I think this was all part of the master plan to get Karstans some work and a win.
What an amazing inning.
Regardless of what happens the rest of the way, anybody who posts questioning this teams heart should be banned for life from this blog.
They may not always play well, however, one thing we have seen for the last few months is, this team has heart.
That can’t be questioned anymore.
I think Clemens can call everyone even for bailing him out – even tho they didn’t help in previous starts. We’re rolling now.
With the way the Yanks bashed the bullpen around the past few days, we should be able to at least score a couple more times before 7 innings are up?
Karstens: 9 strikes; 1 ball; 4 outs
You Go, Baby Bomber!!
Tied up in Beantown at 3’s. Not quite a Yankee comeback, but I’ll take it.
It would be nice to get a few here
Tie game in Boston.
at the moment – i’d be happy with a 9-8 yankee win.
no kasey dont say that please. they will win this game because of pure inertia. its like the sox after they beat the yanks to go on to the world series (as much as it sucked to watch) everyone knew there was no way theyd lose to the cardinals. this is a lot smaller scale but theyll do it
Crooked eye…ugh.
Just wanted to say hello and be part of the record setting day, as I’m assuming it will be.
Yes, the Yankees heart factor of 5.76 is well ahead of the league average. They are outhearting the White Sox right now and our heart is helping us gain on the heartless Indians and Red Sox.
Give me a break. Yankees’ offense is just awesome, and has been clicking, has nothing to do with “heart” or any other nonsense. They’re good.
does anyone have footage or know where you can get it from that 9th inning against texas I think it was….something like an 11 run inning.
sj44 i was thinking the same thing. is there something i dont know about karstens because someone said he was a washed up prospect (comparing him to gabbard) he got hurt give him a break! no pun intended
Umps expand the zone on a hot day. That, and of course, the anti-yankee conspiracy
Os tied it 3-3
Sexy Calves doing his thing!!!
And Damon joins the parade! that’s got to be a sign of good things…
Now that is why i cant totally rag on damon when he is struggling. he does hustle you cant take that away from him. AL LEITER FOR PRESIDENT
Johnny finally gets a hit. Now everyone on the team has at least one hit. Let’s get the lead here!
I wish these guys had read Sun Tsu and play like they’re still 8 runs down.
5-0 Cleveland
ace: have you tried youtube or google video
The amount of comments on the blog today can not mean good things for business productivity.
How often does Pete give us the Answer to the YES trivia question? Nettles in 68
anyone know what happened to thome?
Melky having trouble picking up the flight of virtually every ball hit his way today. Must be a high sky down at the Stadium.
yeah, Im not sure of all the search titles I could try under though.
Maybe Thome got depressed?
Great, Zilla can watch his porn on a 52 inch LCD now….
mike r: great point i was wondering the same thing. im “home sick” cough cough.
This team never says die. I like that.
Oh dear
Damn DYE!!!
ouch.
just when you think you know all the scripts for a baseball game
Clemens has pitched enough games this year where he didn’t get any support
We needed to pick him up
Crap.
Oh well…not like we still can’t win!
Unbelievable. Let’s go Karsten. You can do it.
anyone else think we’re gonna put up a few runs in our half?
If you heard the sounds of “Awwwwww ….shyt” it was from 200 miles north. Socks fans doing scoreboard watching.
Why couldnt they trade Dye?
I’m feeling 17-13 Yanks
Good thing I took the over
This is gonna be one of thos 16-13 kinda game
shame karstens couldn’t hold the white sox down an inning or two longer.
I hope this doesn’t mean that Joe stops using Karstens now…
52 inches? Now that’s Godzilla sized! Seriously though congrats to Hideki, gald he finally got some recognition, I’m still pissed he got robbed of Rookie of the Year in 2003 to Angel “AAA utility guy” Berroa
Unfortunately, the Podsetnik AB was the killer this inning. Got the guy 0-2, you can’t lose him.
That’s a killer. You want to put up some zeroes for a few innings.
Today, both Clemens and Karstans have given up way too many 0-2 and 1-2 basehits. That’s why the they have given up 10 runs in 4 innings.
Time for the O to go back to work and time for Torre to get Villone ready. He’s going to be needed the next inning.
ok, screw my tivo
by the time i get home from work it’ll still be the 5th inning.
Steady diet of off speed pitches,and Karstens finally gets him…..2-0 Chi-sox…Good news is that the Yanks are already into the their Bullpen, Yanks have a starter on the mound
Gameday is saying “injury delay”… what happened?
dawg they must have hit the wrong button. There is a pitching change now
nothing dawg nobody important is hurt
Logan was possibly injured at the beginning of the inning and I assume they didn’t want to take any chances.
If I was Bukvich I would give ARod a fastball down the middle and hope for a HR. He won’t be remembered for anything he does during his career, why not be remembered for something?
For those that missed my original post and stuck at work, you can watch Alex’s ab on the net for free. go to mlb.com
A Rod is back, #500 coming soon.
guys bases loaded. one out. david ortiz up. guess what happenes?
My MLB.COM just went out, what’s going on at the Stadium
single by A-Rod. Looks like he is getting out of his slump.
ortiz flies out and douggie is thrown out at home
double play
Matsui single comin up
douggie?
Boston Yankee–He struck out…??
nyr was that for what i just posted? and yes marc dougie did not go deep. if thats “douggie” cause you dont know who i mean i mean doug mirabelli
Words has it that the Japanese porn industry just decided to state their support for Blu-Ray.
I am sure that Godzilla will be enjoy his new bunch of high-def porn lol.
Down 2-0, but plenty of time to make it up!
thanks flaherty i just went cross eyed
Too many posts…I just wanted to be included though
no eroc he popped up and what should have been a sac fly.. wasnt. mwahahaha it was great
pat m-
_My MLB.COM just went out, what’s going on at the Stadium_
ARod hit a line-drive right into the MLB camera — it’s in a million tiny little pieces.
This is great, I’ll be home to see the last 3 innings.
(Usually get home around 5:15)
Comments section could be around 1300 by then as well!
so this is what literally happens. he is tagging up. thinks he left early. tags again then goes home. it was hilarious
Holy Crap, I just turned the game on, what the hel! happened?
_I am sure that Godzilla will be enjoy his new bunch of high-def porn lol._
You mean, Pornzilla!!
Now _batting,_ Hideki Diggler
How in the world does BOONE LOGAN and RYAN BUKVICH slow down this team???
runs, “dontfirecash” lots, and lots of runs
I got question. Can the Yankees sign Kosuke Fukudome at that moment when he becomes a free agent this month? Or will they have to wait until after the World Series?
I recall a game, late ’80s, Yanks vs. Boston. Clemens was pitching for Boston. The Yanks were down 9-0 after two innings, I believe. They tied it up. Then the game went into extra innings, and the Yanks won. I predict the Yanks win this game, too — but it’s going to take 11 innings. You heard it here first, from the cow pastures of Montana.
Simple point, Torre did not pitch the ball, Clemens did…right ! But…Torre IS the manager and when anyone is getting tattooed like Clemens was ( regardless of what Cano could have done with the ball ) taking him out ONLY after he gives up 8 full runs is stupid. No Matter as we are only Chasing TWO with a full 5 innings to play….we will WEAR DOWN their BullPen and pray that our pen keeps it together….GO YANKEES !
LETS GO YANKEES!!!
I’m not worried at all. 5 more innings.
Today will be the day #500 is hit, and we crush their non-existent bullpen.
Hey Pete, can you get a frapper (or whatever it’s called) map up so we can see where all these crazies are writing in from!?!?! It’s pretty sweet we got Montana Mike checkin’ in…
Oh, Jeff…
that’s all three runs from karstens given up with 2 outs. sorry, not terribly impressed by this kid, never have been.
Hopefully, Jeff Karstens can just get out of the inning without giving up anymore runs.
MLB.COM is still out……Just realized that it was 28 years ago today that my heart was broken when the news of Thurman Munson died……Still rattles my soul……
I thought Karstens was better than this.
sox score
Karstens is killing us. We battle all the way back he has a man on 3rd with 2 outs that last 2 innings and cant get the big out.
has anybody here ever had a back spasm. i havent. can you describe it cause ball players get it all the time. what causes it?
This inning is why I wanted Villone in there. Five straight lefties and they (wrongly) roll the dice with Karstans and they lose.
Giving up 3 runs the last two innings, especially sending him back out there for the 5th, is not a good job of game managing.
Five straight lefties, you go to Villone for two innings, then you get to the 7th with your regular guys in order.
Cost them another run and that may be enough to turn this game.
I hate how the Red Sox seem to keep coming back in games.
and the hits keeping coming for kay… such stunning commentary. please explain what irony is to the man. if i didnt know any better id call him a “midget who doesnt know **** about baseball”
The more you see out of the bullpen, the more Joba Chamberlain can’t get here soon enough.
Guys get 2 strikes on hitters but can’t finish them. The 2 out hits? All because there aren’t any strikeout guys in the bullpen.
It is what it is. The bullpen has been crap all year which is why this team needs to score 10+ runs every night to win.
Those 3 runs may hold up in this one and all three runs were the byproduct of horrible situational pitching.
Stop delaying the inevitable and get Joba up here ASAP.
Strikes out Konerko, but gives up a hit to Scott Posednik.
Yeah, Pat M — I vividly remember hearing the news, too, about Munson. I was 10 years old. He was my second favorite player, after Pinella. Well, it’s an auspicious date. I don’t believe the Yanks can lose this one. Not on this date, not after coming back from 8 runs. Not being only 2 games out in the WC.
karstens, enjoy the bus ride back to the minors
ray dont spoil it you had a classy comment before cant we just be friends!
Did everyone forget this is Karstens first time back at the MLB level after being seriously hurt?
Damn you Sterling
Does Wilson have a goat t?
i think we’d all love for them to win this game after the way they came back, but it looks like that may not happen.
never have liked karstens, think he’s a very, very, very mediocre pitcher, at best.
a three-run deficit is no big deal, but with the team scoring 8 to climb back into the game, they needed more from karstens than what he gave them.
i agree with sj44, villone might have been a better call in the 5th will all of those lefty bats coming up.
Let’s see Phillips hit his home run today =)
let’s concentrate on the game people…enough of the backseat GMs mid game.
LOL,, Eric Gagne died on Route 66 sounds like title of stephen king book.
OK Boston Yankee…lol…we can be friends!
Pat M:
Do me a favor and stop posting comments with curse words in them. This blog is part of a newspaper and we can’t print obscene words. You have multiple comments a day that get stuck in the spam filter and I have to waste time deleting them. Please stop, OK?
If you can’t make your point without cursing, don’t make it. Thanks.
2 out RBI
NYY: 2
CHI: 8
Kay is so funny, “We’ll keep an eye on the Cleveland game” It’s been like over, for a while.
okay so im asking nicely if you find the blog offensive please dont read it. if you can read it without posting please dont post. if reading it makes you HAVE to post then do what you have to do
Ok we know Jaba is coming but what about Ohlendorf he has to be better than the guys the yanks have in the pen now.
im a guy and i pride myself in gritiness, im a landscaper. but all this talk of sweat is really… it just has to stop
Pete …….I do not use profanity at all…..
it’s starting to look like those three white sox runs are going to stand up. i should never have broken with the negativity. i blame myself entirely for this loss.
Now, he puts Villone in to pitch. Great move…..an inning too late.
Karstens is o.k. From his first time up, I remember associating him with the long ball. Still got 4 innings. Let’s go guys.
Yeah, Kay can say some pretty obvilious things sometimes.
Seriously… Karstens just came back from injury. He did OK. Give him a break. Yesterday it was a great addition, today he’s suddenly horrible.
Have some consistency guys. Give him a little time to get back in his groove.
We still have 4 innings. Why are people saying the 3 runs will hold up when we have scored 8 in a comeback so far?
Ponderous…
exactly myrtle. PREACH! consistently
Villone is dealing. Struck out Pierzynski and Dye.
3 Runs is a lot to make up..it just dosent seem like it right now because the score is 11-8.
a hammy hurts somebody else. thats refreshing
1-2-3 inning for Villone.
Hahahhahah
Kay, just called the cleveland game (which ended an hour ago) saying, “it just ended”
now that’s a slow internet connection
GO BOBBY!!!
kay is such a jinx its nice to see it work in our favor
BOBBY!!!
Cmon A-Rod…back to back jacks…
OMG! John Sterling just tried to say something in spanish with that Abreu homer. It was horrible.
BOBBY!
Time for Arod’s #500!
in comes GAGne
Nice homer by Abooboo.
SJ44 said:
“Those 3 runs may hold up in this one and all three runs were the byproduct of horrible situational pitching.
Stop delaying the inevitable and get Joba up here ASAP.”
SJ, don’t worry the yankees are in the middle of a slugfest obviously, and I like our chances. The pitching has been dreadful on both sides, but as the game gets older, the odds will tip in our favor with a well rested MO hanging loose.
I am as excited about Joba as you are (well maybe not quite as much) but he remains an unproven pitcher with zero big league experience. He deserves a shot, but lets not get ahead of ourselves thinking he will definitely be the answer. I hope he is and find his velocity intriguing, but the jury remains out despite what he has done in the minors this year.
BJ
Mike R,
He says it after every Abreu homer, el come dulce(no idea what it means)
Chasing TWO !
It’s “Es como dulce”. He’s like candy. I just don’t get why he says it.
¡Ay, caramba!
thanks, always wanted to know what it means
dontfirecash,
It literally means “The candy eater”…
who knows why sterling says half the stuff he does
haha, “the candy eater”, thats pretty funny.
If they are say “he’s like candy”, it would be “es como el dulce”…
Basically saying he’s sweet…
Skinny Mike
August 2nd, 2007 at 3:39 pm
3 Runs is a lot to make up..it just dosent seem like it right now because the score is 11-8.
OK then 2 runs is TONS to make up, it just doesn’t seem like it now, as the score is 11-9 ?….Great argument, Dude !
Jesus. This is the worst kind of false sense of security. There is no reason to have any faith whatsoever in this team. Bad pitching will never, ever be substituted by good hitting. Good teams will not let us do this crap, and we’re STILL getting beaten.
Can anyone besides Wang be counted on without several homeruns being hit.
We’re being fooled here, guys.
heads up fielding by lowell. ITS ONLY THE SEVENTH i thought it was the eighth oh god i love watching the yankees for as long as possible i just didnt know how “long as possible is”
Mike R,
since you listen to the games on the radio, whats your take on the dunkin donuts commercial with the guys screaming at each other? I literally have to turn the radio off when it comes on.
Hey Yankee Rican. Yo soy de Bayamon. There’s more than one of us here.
welcome to boston gagne so far a whip of 2 and and era of 9 in boston. YEEHAW
Gagne looked good for the first two batters. Then next two? Not so good. Let’s go O’s!
I listen on MLB Gameday. I think the commercials are different, but the premise alone is enough to make me want to mute it.
yeah, Gagne stinks. He’s terrible. Well, not terrible. Terrible is Farnsworth and the rest.
And, I meant to say that good pitching will never be substituted…
This is rediculous. It’s not even fun baseball.
lets make it eight again. Nice job Cashman.
**48**
You guys can kill me later but, I am telling you right now Joba is the answer.
He has three things you can’t teach. A 98 MPH fastball with movement, an 89 MPH tight slider that’s unhittable and makeup. His makeup is as good (or better) than his stuff.
Any other organization would have had this kid up a month ago. The Yankees are just a very conservative organization when it comes to young pitchers. Right or wrong with that philosophy is up for healthy debate.
He is THAT good. If he comes up and he bombs, you guys can kill me if you want. But, IMO, he ain’t bombin’.
Karstans? Sorry but, first game or not, a poor performance today. Now, some of it isn’t his fault. Villone should have been in there for the 5th with all the lefties coming up. That’s on Joe. However, you have to pitch better than that if you are going to stick with the team.
This isn’t little league where we praise effort. Its the major leagues and he has a job to do and he was poor at it today.
If you are giving up 3 runs as the long man in a few innings, you are useless to this team down the stretch.
It may sound harsh but, that’s the way it is.
The Yankees bullpen are full of guys who can pitch when the team is either up or down 8 runs. Called on to shut the door in a tie game, you have to get the job done.
OK I cut out of work early to come home for the rest of this game. Certainly the Yankees will reward me for my devotion right?!
Where is my Optimism Crew?!?! Negative Nancies, fall back or Betemit will have to bust a cap! Cmon POSITIVITY, we need to try to will a win here!!
We are LEGION, Mike R…lol
I just got back from vacatio n in Rincon last week…still beautiful down there…
SJ,
can’t wait for Joba. CB and I were discussing this the other day, but what do you think about Horne in the ‘pen? Barring injury, it doesn’t look like he would have a shot at the rotation next season.
wow… he looked out.
dontfirecash,
I think injuries are specifically why you keep Horne at Scarnton next year. You know we will not get through an entire season without injury to the rotation, so you keep him down there to mature, and as insurance, IMO.
guess thats why we have replay.. lol
what a horrible bunt, though. lucky for him it worked
Scranton…stupid fat fingers.
here comes the double play!
Yankee Rican,
I agree, also with Horne’s injury history it might not be good for him to pitch in relief. Just thought I’d throw it out there….I love that guy and he’s got such a cool name.
dontfirecash-
I like Horne as well, but I think the bullpen would be an option next year. i’d be scared to bump him up from AA to the bigs.
Down two with 2 with Jenks lurking is no easy task. I do not know what you are trying to prove KAJ…dumb comment
I don’t see Horne as a bullpen option. Like Kennedy, he is more of a finished product as a starting pitcher. He doesn’t have one dominant pitch. His pitches are all equally good. That’s the stuff of a starter, IMO.
Joba is a little different in the short term because of the dominance of his fastball/slider combo.
Horne, like Kennedy, doesn’t bring that to the table. IMO, he is strictly a starter all the way.
Yankee Rican in FL-
como is also an adverb, as in como estas (how are you)
un, dos, tres, cuatro..DOMINICAN
Just to keep the stats correct so there isn’t a ton of Gagne stinks comments started
First two batters Millar and Tejada down by the way of the K on 7 pitches. Next batter pops up to third and Lowell loses it in the sun and bounces into the stands for a ground rule double. Then he lets up a single to Payton.
Mike R.,
I agree, though a lot of people thought Horne was the most major league ready of any of our pitching prospects.
Get a double play, Villone!!
That’s for the hater’s who talk smack about Cano’s defense.
haha.. not the double play i was thinking of.. but hey, it’s a double play!
Finally out of that inning!!
can we just trade cano already? jeez
popout to Cano, out at home double play?
can someone who sw the play describe what just happened? thx.
SJ,
I do agree, however I think Horne is a bit more of a power pitcher than Kennedy. Horne’s fastball generally sits in the 94mph range, and he features a devastating curve which IMO makes him a bit different than Kennedy who doesn’t really feature any above average pitches.
He was out by a mile!
I bet their scouting report said something silly, like Cano doesn’t check the runner at 3rd on a pop up over his shoulder.
We need to go ahead here this inning…
“You guys can kill me later but, I am telling you right now Joba is the answer.
He has three things you can’t teach. A 98 MPH fastball with movement, an 89 MPH tight slider that’s unhittable and makeup. His makeup is as good (or better) than his stuff.”
I wouldn’t kill ya. We need more intelligent analysis on this forum, not less. Besides I have championed K-Ram as aggressively as you have backed Joba. I hope they both get up here fast and start putting up K’s.
Pete, I second the vote to install signup. The barrage of nonsense on here lately is becoming unbearable.
BJ
HAVE TO GET OFF 666 FAN COMENTS BAD KARMA…GO YANKS
Actually even though it worked out, that was Abreu’s play…Much easier throw to make coming in….Then again he probably wouldn’t have tried to tag…..I also look forward to the arrival of Joba…Maybe he comes in during Hughes’ outing…..That would make qiute a statement
He didnt slide head first. How could all three of them have missed that.
Can someone explain why Jeter is on deck.I thought he was off today
Trying to steal a run and it blew up in their face
paul long island: can we just trade cano already? jeez
Why on earth would you want to trade Cano?
Nice walk, Robbie…we need to wear down their pen even more!
sj44,
first of all, we’ll see how good joba’s “makeup” is. if i recall, the only “pressure” situation he’s faced this year is when cashman came to watch him pitch and he stunk up the joint. we’ll see what he’s made of when he’s facing big league hitters with something meaninful on the line. i’d love for the kid to be the answer, but that’s pinning an awful lot on him.
as for karstens, couldn’t agree more. it’s a shame that the kid’s been injured, but he’s had plenty of rehab to get ready. he had a job to do and he couldn’t do it. it does baffle me that you know so much about this organization and their system, and you keep misspelling jeff’s name.
Captain’s in the house!!!!!
Gayle- it is called pinchitting
Let’s go, Jeter!!!
Let the captain hit…
Here comes the hit and run…
Horne is a power pitcher but he doesn’t have that 1-2 combo you want from guys in the bullpen.
Plus, he has had more arm problems than just about any of the top Yankee pitching prospects. He was pretty abused while playing at the University of Florida. I think durability would also be an issue with moving him to the bullpen.
kasey- You are blmaing Joba having a bad start on Cashman being there? You have to be kidding me, right?
Did Kay just say that this is Jeter’s fourth lifetime Pinch Hitting AB……Hard to believe that….
Go NYR I KNOW that and I know it’s Jeter we are talking about but its not like Bentimit hasnt done some damage today, he is a switch hitter so if the object was to get the pitcher out it would not have mattered. I guess my issue/question is if you felt so strongly about sitting him for the day becauise of his nicks then you sit him.Not like Nieves/Posada where there is a HUGE difference
pitching change?
Betemit is not as good from the right side
Kasey,
I don’t think your correct in saying the only “pressure” situation Joba faced is when Cashmoney was in the stands watching. A)that was his one and only bad start of the year and B)I would say Joba faced a lot of pressure in every start…Look at how many of us have been following him…look at how many newspapers have been writing about him. The guy obviously knows there is a ton of hype surrounding himself yet he’s managed to pitch well all season.
yes
Injured chest???
That being said he obviously hasn’t been in any pressure sitations like the one’s he’ll see in the Bronx…so point taken.
no, i’m saying joba has never faced the pressure of being in a high-stakes major league baseball game against the best hitters in the world. tough to tout the kid’s make-up at this point.
And according to what Kay just said Lefties are hitting MacDougal significantly better than righties Betimet should bat from the left side
http://www.freewebs.com/shelle.....nfacts.htm
shelley duncan facts…kinda like chuck norris facts..but better
bronx bomber, its called sarcasm lol. People were all over Cano and in the past month he looks like a completely different player, even gettin a walk here to lead off the inning.
Speaking of Wil Nieves, he’s batting .143 in 4 games at AAA. Poor Wil can’t even buy a hit at AAA.
?
Andy Pettitte got a hit!!!
Phillips is hitting it out
Kasey,
Not true. When you look at a prospect, you look at the entire package. He has one bad start this year. Yet, he still got promoted.
When I talk about his makeup, read about how he grew up, what his father sacrificed for him, etc. It all goes in the package.
The kid has no fear because of the obstacles he has faced in his life.
You are going to have bad games. Its how you recover from them that shows character and makeup.
Look at what he has done since his bad start in Trenton, he’s been unhittable.
The guy is the answer. The Yankees have to stop wasting time and get him in the bullpen.
If they had him for 2 innings today, this game would be a win.
A-rod’s 2 for 4 so far today is the start of a huge august for him.
Look at his numbers by the month…
April- .355 14HR 34RBI
May- .235 5HR 11RBI
June- .402 9HR 34RBI
July- .206 7HR 24RBI
He’s due for a big month after a bad july
John Sterling is KILLING me. I don’t think I can take it anymore!
maybe its just damon has bad luck… does anyone have he figures for dps by a yankee batter?
God… D&^#^^#
That should have been a run.. man that was scorched
Now THAT couldn’t have gone any worse…
All you can do is hit it hard. Damon scorched it. Unfortunately, he hit right at Konerko.
Look for Kyle to throw a 1-2-3 inning with 2 strikeouts.
Farnsdearth is in to pitch. No pressure!!
Jorge is done
AWFUL MOVE pinch hitting for Betemit on many levels.
1. A day off for Jeter turns into what’s really not a day off.
2. Betemit now knows that Torre doesn’t trust his and when he’s in the lineup, he’ll likely be pinch hit for by either A-Rod, Jeter, or Cano (whoever he is in for). Which will likely…
3. Bust Betemit’s confidence.
4. Betemit has HR power and could have possibly tied the game.
uh oh, is posada ok?
posada doesnt want anything to do with Farnsworth
he wants to go home to Laura tonight, not fall victim to Krazy Kyle
Got it Mathew.. thanks for the heads up. must have lost the thread…
What the heck happened there? Is something wrong with Jorge? God I hope not.
I keep waiting for Michael to Slip and call him Kyle Farnsworthless
ryan saying that it isnt a dayoff for jeter when hell have at most two atbats and two innings played doesnt make sense
What happened to JOrge??
Prediction: Kyle turns it around the rest of the season.
jennifer-looks likeKrazy Kyleitis
Jorge: it’s currently 96° and he’s been shouldering 15 lbs.’ of equipment.
Ryan. In a close game, you want your BEST out there. Who is your BEST? Jeter or Betemit? Do you think Jeter actually wanted the day off? Torre probably had to force him. Jeter is more than happy to get in the game and he’s fresh and he could give the team more spark, as they are sweating and tiring.
noce prediction
Damnit Farns
I don’t understand why you’d sub Jorge in now when he’ll get another at-bat this game and they’re trailing. This makes no sense to me, especially since Jorge played through all 9 innings of both Chicago blowouts. Is this player mis-management???
jesus christ
myrlebeachfan: apparently the sun rotted your brain, farnsworth is a waste
thanks kyle…please place him on waivers
DFA
Hopefully it’s just cramping for Posada. It’s tough catching a day game after a night game especially in these conditions. I really hope that if he’s okay, Joe gives him one of the day games off, instead of tomorrow night. Catching in this heat with all the gear is rough.
God.. what the &^%@&^% Kyle! Stop throwing that stupid slider. Throw your fastball away to a guy like Konerko… sigh.
How much more of this dirtbag are we gonna have to suffer through?
BJ
Justin – what are you talking about? He’s being subbed OUT and apparently there is an injury and/or he hates farnsworth
Gasoline Farnsworth
Wow…
Farnsworth is just losing value every single time.
I can’t see the game — fastball or slider?
It’s soooo disapointing to lose this game when we came back from 8 runs down. Such a wasted opportunity.
There’s no way Jorge should have been playing all the innings during the blowouts but if it is carmps that are bothering him, that may not be the cause.
Its actually kind of sad that Farnsworth wastes so much talent. Too bad someone with a brain doesnt have the ability that he has.
its amazing you can hit a homer off of farnsworth
Krazy Kyle strikes again. Geeeez….
Myrtle-
Didn’t really work out that way, did it? I’m just saying, Betemit was 5 feet away from 2 HR today. His confidence was flying. I would have liked to see him hit.
Myrtle Beach Fan:
That pitch to Konerko sure got turned around…
josh the game isnt over dont give up
Josh- Its 96 degrees. Dehydration caused cramps.
unbelieveable. farsny is pathetic. another late game HR served up? he’s killing me…
Obviously I meant “subbed out”. Obviously.
as I posted over 2 hours ago, it would be decided by pens..
the whitesox have the 2nd worse pen in the AL and the yanks have the 3rd worse pen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
with this offense and decent starting pitching, a good pen makes this a real good team but Karstens did not shine and Krazy did his thing…
Cramps? Get that man a banana!
For those who can’t watch, Jorge went out to warm Farnsworth, squatted, and motioned to the dugout. Tony Pena went in to warm up Farnsworth while Molina got his gear on. It looks like heat cramps. But definitely an injury.
Why dont they get rid of this guy?
wow, another one, this guy gotta be gone, off this team
I have to give credit where credit is due! Whether or not the Yankees come from behind and win the game today as mentioned in earlier posts they showed a LOT of heart in coming back from being down eight to nothing. As a Sox fan I know you guys will be there right until the end of the season and that the division title is not a wrap for either the Sox or the Yankees. History has shown that over and over. No matter what happens this has been a most interesting game!
Kyle doing it big time….
the pen failed us again…………..
The sun rotted my brain? Ok, buddy. I wish that made some sense. It’s comments like that that just destroy credibility.
Farnsy can be re-tooled and get his form back. He shouldnt be doing it in games, but if we can’t trade him, we aren’t suppose to just say “OK, 98MPH with a sick slider, We’re sending you to AAA even though you were great for us last year”
I bet Nardi could work wonders with Kyle…wonder if he would accept a demotion to Tampa…HAHA
im a bit late to the party today but can someone explain to my why joe played jorge in 100 degree heat after having played last night as well? can someone explain why joe use Viz in a meaningless spot last night and then used Farnsworth in a meaningful spot today? Is there anyone that still thinks Joe has a clue?
LISTEN TO THE BOOS!!!
Farns can ruin any close game. Is it too late to get Proctor back?
Ugh… why god why is farnsworth still on this team!?!
Good move Cashman, keeping Farsnworth was pure genious.
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING WITH THIS CLOWN !
now its more likely the games over. but a game isnt over in my opinion until were down by 20 with one inning left
DFA
DFA
DFA
Another HR given up by Krazy Kyle!
Perhaps the Yankees should just put a batting Tee on homeplate, call it Kyle, and let the White Sox hit off of that.
Pete, I fully expect a 10 minute long interview from you with the Farns after the game.
myrtlebeach,
He was good for us last year? He was ok, I mean he struck out a lot of people, but he still gave up a lot of runs.
hey myrtlebeachfan, in what world was kyle great for us last year? not in the real world.
Wow get Farnsworth off this team. DFA, release him, anything! PLEASE!!!!
who cares how hard he throws? it just goes further outta the park servin up 2 dingers in relief? Please…
Every gofer ball he gives up, someone should be allowed to punch him in the face.
Seriously…just cut this guy.
He sucks so bad, just make him go away. Eat the $7M and bring on someone capable to keeping us in games.
Unreal how terrible Farns is
Being down 20 isnt far away.
Thank god he throws a straight 98mph fastball
Josh its called being dehydrated.
CAN FARNSWORTHLESS BE DOING THIS ON PURPOSE?
“Now it’s up to Krazy Kyle to hold the deficit at two.”
Famous last words…
Farnsworth is a joke.
DFA!!!!
DFA!!!!
D!!!F!!!!A!!!!!!
god that’s the only good thing that could come out of this game
Wish I was watching on TV so I could hear the boos raining down
Stuart – You thought a game that was tied 8-8 in the 2nd inning would come down to the pens??? Wow, you’re a genius!!
i told you eating farns whole contract was a good idea. after do you think hell be mad that he didnt come back out in the ninth cause he deserves more playing time
What the heck? Farnsworth was smiling while he was leaving the field. Thats just atrocious.
the yankee pen has given up about 140 runs in the 8th and 9th inning . this is the 2nd most in baseball..May be the 7th also…
for all you brain surgeons that is a bad stat….
but why don’t you guys talk about getting some more production from 1B or talk about the lineup..
NEWSFLASh pitching is fairly important in baseball.
I loooooooooooooove the KK batting tee idea. Get Cash to market them and we’ll pay off the $$$ we owe KK. Dump him now.
Sigh. What a crappy tease.
(((
But Betemit is still my homeboy.
keep posting August 2nd, 2007 at 4:40 pm
Every gofer ball he gives up, someone should be allowed to punch him in the face.
CAN I CAN I?!?! pleaeeeese!
Think we might see Joba even earlier than anticipated?
Way to be 10 feet off 2B to set up the inning-ending double play there, Cano, you mo ron. He really is a stupid baseball player. I’m shocked he drew a walk. A better pitcher would’ve struck him out. Maybe the Yanks should consider making Betemit the starting 2B next year and trade Cano for some starting pitching. Cano reminds me of Soriano with the same bat (good BA low OBP) but without the HR, RBI, SB, or good baserunning sense. Oh yeah spare me the play at the plate, any competent 2B makes it cuz Richar was out at the plate by a mile. He’s better than Soriano ever was with the glove, but that’s not saying much considering (Cano) is average at best defensively. Kay just said Cano has been playing “Gold Glove caliber” defense. If so that’s a sorry state of affairs for A.L. 2B. He and Jeter are the most overrated up the middle in M.L.B.
B.t.w. what an awful loss today which it will be. It’s like we tied it up at 8 let’s relax. Karstens was garbage (3 runs in 4 IP). Farnsworth just served up 2 homeruns -talk about Torre putting up the white flag DOWN 11-9 HE MADE 13-9!!!
FIRE HIM NOW!!!! This team lacks killer instinct. They can’t ever sweep anyone anymore -name me the last time they swept someone. Pittsburgh? They better at least sweep K.C. and win 2 of 3 from Toronto before heading to Cleveland. They go even a decent 4-2 but Cleveland does the same, they are in very real danger of being 4 or 5 games out after Cleveland. 5-1 probably assures at least 2 games behind going into Cleveland and a chance at a game behind with 2 wins or a game ahead with a sweep over Cleveland.
I guess they have no interest in winning this game.
Its the only logical reason you put out garbage in the 8th inning.
I guess the only hope any of us have of Torre finally stop using his guy is if he blows out his arm on the mound.
No logical reason you put out Farnsworth in the 8th inning of this game. Just like you don’t let Karstans pitch to 6 straight lefthanded hitters in the 5th.
At some point, you can’t expect to score 15 runs every night so your gutless relief pitchers can get outs and the manager doesn’t have to make solid in game decisions.
How much more does Farnsworth have to stink for them to realize he should NEVER be pitching in a game that’s in the balance.
Dumb decision not getting Karstans out in the 5th, topped only by pitching pure garbage in the 8th.
If Torre has any sense left, he leaves Farnsworth in for the 9th and not blow out another arm today.
Meanwhile, they are taking their sweet time getting Chamberlain up here. Sometimes, you wonder what they are thinking with some of these moves.
YankeeJosh that was the dumbest post ever. Congratulations on your idiocy. (”Definitely an injury [to Posada]“)
Of course he is smiling.
He is smiling all the way to the bank. He doesn’t givce a rats A about this team anymore, that is clear as day. He keeps cashing that check and sticking to the yankee fans each time he sucks
Optimism is sorely punished here at the Lohud Yankees blog
this is a joke. he has to be gone. i dont trust farns in any situation and joe is still only using him 1 inning at a time so its not even like you can use him to mop up. i mean he still gets treated like the 8th inning guy. he needs to be taken away from joe.
PLEASE TRADE KYLE FARNSWORTH!! FOR ANYONE!! EVEN JESSE OROSCO!! TRADE HIM FOR A JETER BOBBLEHEAD!! FOR ANYTHING!! GET HIM OFF THIS TEAM!! HE’S A B*** AND FOLDS UNDER PRESSURE.
Games like these scare me more than anything about our playoff run. Torre is seems incompetent when it comes to close late inning games, something that occurs as a rule in the post season. These Weaver like magerial moves are beyond frustrating.
Someone please explain why you bring this guy in at all let alone in this situation. Was two runs too insurmountable for Joe? Perhaps it was Krazy’s one inning of one-two-three ball that reinvigorated Joe with confidence.
I’m with you SJ, bring up K-Ram and Joba ASAP.
BJ
Whats the word on Jorge?
wow, just frustrating why he leaves sliders up. More frustrating why he’s still here.
can we have one more comeback?
I bet Jorge said fudge it and just left. Didn’t want to deal with Kyle beaming him again on a game that Kyle would put the finishing nails on.
Man, we need to be getting guys on base.
Nah, Jorge just didn’t want to catch for Professor Farnsworth any more.
I don’t care about his velocity, and I don’t care about his “sick” slider. The guy gives out runs like candy, and his attitude is a cancer in the locker room.
He may have some talent buried in there, somewhere, but he damages the team on the field and off. The guy has got to go, as soon as humanly possible.
josh I think he was smiling out of helplessness i don’t think it was done on purpose, plus we need to get farns in games hopefully he can find something because it doesn’t seem with that contract and the trading deadline passed, he’s going anywhere. Im just as mad as you are because the game looks pritty ugly right now but what can you do
When do we play the Indians?
Krazy Kyleitis
We have 4 outs left. Last time I checked, the game doesnt end with 2 outs in the 8th.
if a rod hits a homer and kyle leaes everything wasnt for nothing
Farnsworth SHOULD have been paid to pitch for the Braves….With the Yankees having money to burn AND wanting to make the playoffs…we have a much better chance at winning this game down only 2 as opposed to 4 ,,,,giving up 2 home runs just shows that if we DID trade him to Detroit that would be fantastic on both ends…We would be rid of him AND we would get to bat against that hot head…I can’t believe that we would lose the battle of the bullpens to the dang White Sox…that would be just sad…But again…2 out of 3 aint bad..but we drop another game back to the hated BoSox if that happens as Baltimore has not done us any favors in the last 24 hours….NEVER SAY DIE, though….only chasing FOUR !!!
Peter: Of course you can release Farnsworth. That $7 million is a sunk cost. At this point, the team has to realize that his roster spot would be far more valuable if it were taken up by Chris Britton or whomever.
i disagree with petes point. you certainly can cut him. he isnt helping at all. its 7 million wasted whether he is here or not. its about cutting our losses. second lets get edwar up here again. i thought pete said he was coming up. and if Joba is ready lets get him up here too. lets see what our guys can do rather than waste 1 more minute with farnsworth. and although pete conveniently ignored it, joes usage of him today and viz last night in a meaningless spot is a disgrace.
OK this is really depressing. Why did they even have to bother to tease us? Although it certainly isn’t the offense I’m mad at today…
Where’s that mo-ron who thought Farnsworth would work through his struggles and not to give up on him? That idiot argued with me for 20 minutes yesterday.
Show yourself you f****** prick.
Farnsworth can be turned around? Are you kidding me?
Its August 2. He has been GARBAGE all year. Hell, he almost blew a 6 run lead on Sunday.
To put him out there in a 2 run game is tantamount to manager malpractice. It had the predictable result.
He ALWAYS gives up runs in games he works and NEVER has 1-2-3 innings. So, when exactly is he going to “turn it around”?
He should NEVER be in a game that’s in question. NEVER.
They don’t want to eat the 7 million, fine. Put him in middle relief, and use him in blowout situations.
To continue to trot him out in 8th innings is just flat out dumb.
He’s garbage. Been garbage since the day he got here and will be garbage until he leaves.
A horrible decision, but the game out of reach, and our crappy bullpen blows another game.
Amazing.
“Ava
August 2nd, 2007 at 4:46 pm
When do we play the Indians?”
8/10, 8/11, 8/12
and i’m going to the 11th and 12th games and can’t friggen wait!
Awful at-bat by Arod.
Ca-No said:
“Way to be 10 feet off 2B to set up the inning-ending double play there, Cano, you mo ron. He really is a stupid baseball player. I’m shocked he drew a walk. A better pitcher would’ve struck him out. Maybe the Yanks should consider making Betemit the starting 2B next year and trade Cano for some starting pitching. Cano reminds me of Soriano with the same bat (good BA low OBP) but without the HR, RBI, SB, or good baserunning sense. Oh yeah spare me the play at the plate, any competent 2B makes it cuz Richar was out at the plate by a mile. He’s better than Soriano ever was with the glove, but that’s not saying much considering (Cano) is average at best defensively. Kay just said Cano has been playing “Gold Glove caliberâ€? defense. If so that’s a sorry state of affairs for A.L. 2B. He and Jeter are the most overrated up the middle in M.L.B.
B.t.w. what an awful loss today which it will be. It’s like we tied it up at 8 let’s relax. Karstens was garbage (3 runs in 4 IP). Farnsworth just served up 2 homeruns -talk about Torre putting up the white flag DOWN 11-9 HE MADE 13-9!!!
FIRE HIM NOW!!!! This team lacks killer instinct. They can’t ever sweep anyone anymore -name me the last time they swept someone. Pittsburgh? They better at least sweep K.C. and win 2 of 3 from Toronto before heading to Cleveland. They go even a decent 4-2 but Cleveland does the same, they are in very real danger of being 4 or 5 games out after Cleveland. 5-1 probably assures at least 2 games behind going into Cleveland and a chance at a game behind with 2 wins or a game ahead with a sweep over Cleveland.”
Just step away from the computer. It’s going to be ok, lol. Calm down. Can I get u anything?? Relax, man. The game isn’t over.
Guys and Gals,
If you keep this guy on the team, you are paying him to destroy our season and post season chances. If you release him or trade him for a bag of garbage, you are paying him not to. Which choice do you make?
Cash chose the former.
BJ
SJ44 – you cant use him in blowouts because remember farns doesnt like to pitch more than 1 inning at a time and joe still honors that. he has no value pitching 1 inning per blowout. lets just get him out of here. if we are serious about winning this year then its time to put our best team out there and currently we are not.
Oh…well we only need 4 runs on the bottom of the ninth to tie is up ??? ( my optomism is losing steam here…I need a beer ! )….chasing 4 ??? wa-hoo ??
With 1 inning to go, I still got hope, but I really think Torre is doign a pretty piss poor job of in-game management this year. Bottom line. Things all swung around when he PH for Betemit. Why force Ozzie’s hand to get Thornton out of there? Well, we got MacDougal and he’s looked sharp. Oh well.
Farnsworth can be turned around? Are you kidding me?
Its August 2. He has been GARBAGE all year. Hell, he almost blew a 6 run lead on Sunday.
To put him out there in a 2 run game is tantamount to manager malpractice. It had the predictable result.
He ALWAYS gives up runs in games he works and NEVER has 1-2-3 innings. So, when exactly is he going to “turn it around�?
He should NEVER be in a game that’s in question. NEVER.
They don’t want to eat the 7 million, fine. Put him in middle relief, and use him in blowout situations.
To continue to trot him out in 8th innings is just flat out dumb.
He’s garbage. Been garbage since the day he got here and will be garbage until he leaves.
A horrible decision, but the game out of reach, and our crappy bullpen blows another game.
Amazing.”
AMEN brother. (or sister)
BJ
How do you bring in Farnsworth up 11-9 and leave him in after he serves up a homerun to make it 12-9 Chicago? Torre is an idi ot.’Can’t wait to hear your newest lame excuse for him Peter. Lemme guess “he couldn’t go to anyone else.” Yes he could’ve and should’ve and no, it’s no “second guess” cuz you can’t read my mind. Like I and any other Yankee fan with a brain would say it was a good idea to bring in Farnsworth haha yea-uh.
Mark this down as the loss which will cost the Yanks the season (playoffs) if they miss the playoffs by a game and oh man Torre you are history the moment that last out to eliminate the Yanks from it is collected. Seriously, put your stuff in a box that day and hide it from anyone cuz you should be told to not come back after that game or whenever the team gets knocked out. Go to Maui and stay there.
I happen to be a Yankee, Patriots, and Celtics fan. It’s a horrible combination, really, say my family members (all Red Sox fans). I really appreciate Garnett throwing out the first pitch at Fenway today, but it sorta gave me a bad taste in my mouth haha.
anyone still think wickman is a bad idea? you’re going to pay the guy 7 million dollars, why not do it to let him blow games for some other team?
they probably weren’t going to win anyway, but farnsworth made sure of it.
Sean Henn is in the game. Should be interesting.
Thanks saucy. Congrats on going to the games. If the race stays this tight, those will be crucial. The Stadium always has great energy during important games.
I disagree that he cannot be released. DFA’ing him is not only plausible, it is absolutely what they should do. His attitude is incredibly detrimental, and his arm cannot handle the role of mop-up man, so he is literally Farns-worthless. Plus, just by having him around, you are taking away an incredibly valuable roster spot…we’re not sure who from the list of almost-ready guys in the minors and almost-ready guys on the DL should fill out the final 25, but we know it’s NOT Farnsworth. The Yankees have a big bubble of guys, Giambi, Duncan, Ramirez, Chamberlain, Karstens, Cairo, etc. Farnsworth makes it even harder to fill out the roster with actual contributors. Having him on the roster hurts the team. Every day that he remains on the Yankees, a little part of me dies…
I meant Chicago up 11-9.
and why did joe pinch hit jeter? betemit was having a good game and jeter is banged up a bit. why not give jeter the full day off?
Peter, can we pay him 7 million dollars to be like a ROVER for all the teams we play from now on. At the start of the series…he puts on a uniform for the OTHER team and THEY HAVE TO USE HIM at least 2 innings in every series…would that work for ya ? If he stinks, he stinks…pay him his money and say ba-bye….just like we did with Pavano…What good is he to us…???? Seriously, we need to take a look at our upcoming schedule and trade him to the team that we play the most…BETTER YET….GIVE HIM TO THE RED SOX !
Sean Henn looks like Ricky Bobby in “Talladega Nights”
myrtle beach im the same way. i hate saying i told you wickman wasnt a bad trade and you guys all tried telling me “oh you cant do that”
This has got to be the most depressing game of the year, for real. Just a straight-up bummer.
However, gotta just put it behind us. The important thing is playing .700+ ball since the break and they have been doing that. Despite how utterly deflating this game has been it’s just one L in the books and is really no different than a less depressing L that is less of a mind(censored.) The team has to just put it behind them too and not let it break them or mess with their heads.
But it really does suck
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Anyone watching on TV have an update on why Posada left the game??
If there is competition for bullpen spots, then send Farnsworth to AAA (or AA) and give someone else a shot. What’s the point of keeping him in the bullpen??? He’s just taking up space.
Ugh, i think i’d rather have Bob Wickman and a bill than Farnsworth. I also think i might puke just a little.
Tell Farnsworth he has a pulled oblique or hamstring and DL him for the rest of the year
Everyone needs to shutup about Torre and stop being Monday morning Quarterbacks. He brought in one of the greatest Yankees of all time to pinch hit for a bench player who we just got in a huge situation. The crowd went nuts when Jeter was announced so clearly 55,000 people were happy about the decision. If Jeter gets a hit, then all you people are praising Torre. Are you honestly telling me you trust Betemit more in that situation then DEREK JETER???? All the Torre haters need to shut up already. Most of the comments are just ignorant, and hindesite is 20/20.
It doesn’t matter what Farnsworth wants….it matters what is best for the team. Who cares what he wants.
Its either that or somebody on this team is going to have to break his arm because it seems that’s the only way Joe will stop using him.
You come back from 8 runs down, and it becomes a game you have to manage again. Unfortuately, Joe failed the test once again.
Leaving Karstans in for the 5th to face 6 straight lefties…..bad decision (Villone can pitch two innings) and it cost them a run.
Putting Farnsworth in this game defies logic.
All the cornball optimism aside, you don’t put Kyle Farnsworth in ANY game that is still in question. Yet, Joe does it again and Kyle promptly puts the game out of reach.
Its amazing, the guy embarrasses you TWICE in the past three weeks, and you are STILL loyal to him. Unbelievable.
A great comeback once again failed by poor in game managing and worse bullpen work.
For the love of God Cash, take away Torre’s toys and force him to use new players. You do that by getting rid of his favorite crutches. They did it with Proctor, its time to do it with Farnsworth.
The schedule will soon be turning and they won’t be playing these crappy teams much longer. If anybody thinks they are beating good teams with this crappy bullpen, I want what you are smoking.
Their ONLY chance for the playoffs this year is to get rid of the garbage in that bullpen and try the younger guys. If not, they aren’t winning the one and two run games you have to win to make the playoffs.
If anybody thinks Brian Bruney, Kyle Farnsworth, Jeff Karstans and Mike Myers are going to get you to the WC, you are nuts.
Whoever can bring me Kyle Farnsworth-less head on a plate by 7:00 pm tonight gets a prize.
Step away from the tv set cuz it is over w/ the Yanks down 13-9. Why? Cuz they’re only human beings. They can’t come back from an 8-0 hole then a 13-9 hole, it’s just not fair.
Chicago’s closer is Bobby Jenks, not Armando Benitez.
Torre should receive the full blame for this loss for his idiotic moves in it as follows:
-Burning Myers.
-Bringing in Farnsworth with the Yanks down only 11-9.
-Leaving in Farnsworth to give up a second solo HR to make it out of reach at 13-9 cuz again, it’s not fair to expect your offense to rally for a tie or win let alone even 3 runs.
-Not starting Jeter at DH.
-Starting Damon at DH.
i know everyone is on this farnsworth debacle now but why did jorge play in a 95 degree day game after a night game?
ava, the games are in cleveland. hopefully it’ll be half yankee fans though.
EtC – can’t. He doesn’t have any options left.
you can place him on waivers – I’d be throttled if they don’t – and see if something happens then.
vince young attacked one of his receivers at camp haha
Let’s see if we can mount a comeback against Bobby Jenks.
How about DFA’ing myers on Saturday when Hughes gets brought up and keeping Henn? Not because of this outing but Myers can’t get lefties out this year, is 38, and stinks..
Henn stinks a little less and is 25 and has some potential….
the pen failed and the whitesox pen gave up 1 run in 7 innings and they are the 2nd worse pen in BASEBALL..
Anyone???? Update on Posada?? Pls??
four runs against Bobby “Krispy Kreme” Jenks is a tough order…
lol I told you so. The Yanks can’t win the close games. Listen to me next time!
hey skinny mike i wouldnt be praising torre if jeter got a hit. id still be saying that it might not be the best long term move to keep playing jeter if he is banged up as pete said he is. i mean we traded for betemit for him to fill in and give these guys some rest. lets actually follow through.
Get Chamberlain up here now..Let him get a few innings, and then just put Fansworth on waivers…..He’s an arsonist….I cannot recall such a waste of a roster place….How can this guy even want to return to the dugout no less the clubhouse….He just has to go……
Michael Kay doesn’t know Molina is catching (I guess nobody told him). But the funniest — he was shocked to discover Mark Pryor is out for the year.
and this guy has a radio show..
Torre is as incompetent as any manager today. Really. I can’t think of the last time I thought so little of a human being. Oh, wait. Nevermind. I just thought the same of Brian Cashman yesterday.
And Kyle Farnsworth twenty minutes ago.
Sunks costs are sunks costs. Pay ‘em and move on:
Pavano…$10MM/yr
Kei Igawa…$21MM posting fee plus $4MM/year
Krazy Kyle…$5MM/yr
We’re fans…let’s not act like we are the Yankees accountants.
Put the BEST 25 guys you have on the roster. Period.
The total cost is the same for the organization no matter where the players are.
e.g If you put Kyle in AAA to “work out his issues” like Kei…it costs the same money but he does no harm to the Yankees.
Just get Kyle very far away from the Yankees.
And Roger Clemens four hours ago.
And my boss eight hours ago, which reminds me. Goodnight, all. Have fun lamenting over this horrible day.
I need to know the story on Jorge!! What is taking so long to find out what is wrong?
oh no, Posada is out, may be for the season.
All you Torre second guessers are ignorant. He has been the best manager in Yankee history, during a time when it is harder than ever to manage in New York. I agree that he mis manages the bullpen at time but what manager is perfect in all aspects. Clearly his bullpen management can’t be that bad because it got us to win 5 world series…
I find it funny how everyone on this blog would make a much better manager than Joe. If this blog as a whole was managing the club I am sure we would be undefeated this year.
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game over. that was a sad sad 8′th inning. But the game was Karsten’s to lose, and he did
“I happen to be a Yankee, Patriots, and Celtics fan. It’s a horrible combination, really, say my family members (all Red Sox fans).”
I can do you one worse. I am a Yankee, Celtic, and Cowboy fan. Pats are my second favorite.
BJ
The Farnsworth situation is on Cashman not Torre. Brian had a chance to trade him to the Braves but chose not to. He also had a chance to send the sorry bum to the Tigers but elected not to in fear of facing him later on in the season. Are you freaking kidding me? Why in gods name would we be afraid of Farnsworth in a Tigers uniform? Wouldn’t we WANT to sabotage the Tigers who are going to play us 8+ times this season?
Cashman has really dropped the ball on this whole Kyle Farnsworth situation. He had the simple task of removing Farnsworth from this team. Whether it’s a trip to the minors, cutting him, trading him, etc and he blew it. Addition by subtraction Cash, remember that!
Skinny Mike….get something to eat as you are hallucinating.
All the Torre haters need to shut up already. Most of the comments are just ignorant, and hindesite is 20/20.
Clearly hindsight isn’t 20/20 or the moron would have never used Kyle Farnsworth for anything other than mop-up duty. Maybe Joe’s hindsight isn’t what it used to be. I mean, back in the day, he found one reliever and stuck with him every single game until the guy’s arm fell off. Well, I mean now he can’t do that becuase Cashman traded that guy away for a bench guy, but he has to figure out who that next guy will be….
Sorry I meant got us TO 5 world series
Maybe’ he’s skinny from drugs? I can’t imagine anyone who ISN’T on drugs saying things like that? Do your eyeballs work?
Karstens and the 5th inning: He faces Richar, Owens, Cintron, Podsednik, Konerko. Cintron is a switch hitter, and Konerko is a righty, so i’m not sure what the debate is with Joe bringing in a lefty for this inning.
Same here Jennifer, about Posada…I am absolutely buggin out over here. If anyone hears anything please PLEASE share!!! I am ready to put this horrid game behind me already but will wait to find out if Jorge is ok first.
Pete,
Definitely agree about Gagne. Disagree about finding somebody on waivers. Just call up Chamberlain, Ramirez and Ohlendorf and use them.
At this point, its not about Torre’s comfort level. Its about doing what’s best for the team.
Let’s face it, the bar is set pretty low for the rookies to be successful in this bullpen.
If they get the side out in order twice in a row, they already top Farnsworth this year.
If they can strike out people without walking the ballpark and pitching in bad counts, they surpass most of the other guys.
Its not tough. They just have to do it.
I don’t know if its that Torre won’t go to these guys or they are being overly protective with young arms. However, at this point, 108 games into the season, does anybody really believe Farnsworth and the rest of the garbage out there are going to hold leads down the stretch?
They have two viable options in the bullpen….Vizcaino and Rivera. They can probably flop around Villone and (maybe) Myers to get some outs.
The rest? Garbage and nothing more. Just call up Ramirez, Ohlendorf and Chamberlain and use them. What’s the worst that can happen? They stink?
If they do, its probably STILL an upgrade over what they have now.
Just disgusting to waste a great comeback with another putrid Farnsworth performance.
The good news is, they won another series.
The bad news is, they drop a game to Cleveland and Boston and only have 54 games left to find a bullpen. Not gonna be easy.
Monday morning quarterbacks? Uhhhhh wrong. You don’t bring in Farnsworth down 11-9, you just don’t, and if you disagree, them you haven’t been following this 2007 Yankees team. B.t.w. the guy suc ked last year, too.
You don’t give Jeter a day off with the chance for a sweep
and 4 wins in a row. Torre could’ve and should’ve started .330 hitting Jeter at DH period, end of story, case closed. I was fine with Betemit starting at SS before he hit the 3-run shot -good thing he just joined this team- so Jeter could get a rest from SS, but only if Jeter’s bat was still in the game. Torre started two guys in the 1-2 slots who let’s face it, have lousy (Damon) to so-so (Cabrera) OBPs. You bat Cabrera-Jeter 1-2, the combined OBP goes wayyy up.
Maybe if Farnsworth was nowhere near this game and Jeter was in it from the start, it isn’t a final 13-9 Chicago. We’ll never know and that irks me big time esp. when the manager’s lamebrain moves like Farnsworth in down 11-9 and Jeter sitting in a go-for-the sweep game cost the game.
Pete – I understand 7 million is a lot to just release somebody, but Morgan Ensberg, Milton Bradley and Joel Pineiro were all DFA’d recently and they made $4+ million. I just can’t see any reason why he should ever pitch for the Yanks again. And I think it would be a morale boost to get him out of the clubhouse. Give him another camo hat and send him hunting in Montana for the rest of the season.
-Sunks costs- S*t*unk costs
“Their ONLY chance for the playoffs this year is to get rid of the garbage in that bullpen and try the younger guys. If not, they aren’t winning the one and two run games you have to win to make the playoffs.”
I disagree. I think the Yanks are the wild card favorites at this point. As you said, we have serious bullpen upgrades coming, our pitching is good enough, and our offense is the best.
We will get there.
Problem is staying there.
Managerial decisions like this in close games are frequent in october, and I have zero confidence in Torre to change his stubborn ways.
If you don’t like seeing Krazy here today, imagine seeing him in a winner take all game five 3-3 game. This is how he manages period, end of story.
This is also why not making the Wicky move was a colossal failure, perhaps the worst non-move of the year.
BJ
The guys on Around the Horn are about to debate Johnny Damon. What did he say? I heard something about him making comments, but I figured there wasn’t anything to it.
Hi Ava,
he lost his cool in a newsday interview, saying perhaps the best thing is to trade him when Giambi comes back. everyone has been wondering who sits when he joins the team.
They need t osweep some series. Sj your confidence in Myers and even VIllone is not warranted. they have 2 pitchers in the pen…..that is obscene….
Karstens needs to throw more breaking pitches if he does not locate his fastball he has no chance at all….
the damon out was the play of the game….
heard something about him making comments, but I figured there wasn’t anything to it.
maybe he said something about that “magic” we all saw in the ‘04 series and wanted here in NY? Or, maybe he said that he hates playing on a losing team with a lamebrained manager and no bullpen? Or maybe he said that he’s retiring, and my day gets brighter? Maybe he said he’s going to go home, crack open a bottle of champagne and take a bath in hundred dollar bills while laughing at Brian Cashman.
Just my thoughts.
Ava, Damon questioned his role on the team yesterday. He said the T Word(trade).
http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....4512.story
There ya go.
Thank you, Global Warming.
haha. Half the people on this blog are mad that Torre gave Jeter a day off (even though Betemit hit a HR). Others are mad that Jeter pinch hit. Others are mad that Damon was in the lineup..You guys need to stop your Torre complaining just because we lost a game.
Torre did not cost us this game and those of you who think he did clearly do not know baseball.
Clemens pitched 1.2 innings and allowed 8 runs…but Torre cost us this game.
The lineup that you all hated so much today produced 9 runs…
Why was Posada out there today you guys ask. Because Torre wants to have Posada catch for Hughes so will give him the day off tomorrow instead.
You dont think Torre dosent think about these things. Quit your b*tching. Jeter who knows both baseball and Torre FARRRR better than any of us just recently said that Torre has done a better job this year than anyother year in his Yankee career.
We are in the middle of a great run, playing great baseball. You cant win every game but Torre certainly put us in position to do so today after Clemens awful outing. So quit using the man as a scapegoat because it makes you sound ignorant.
God that Wickman (non)move haunts me.
I CAN PITCH BETTER THAN FARNSWORTH AND DON’T NEED HIS GLASSES TO FIND THE STRIKE-ZONE!!! HE’S A BUM!! WHERE ARE CHAMBERLAIN, SANCHEZ, KENNEDY, ETC.??
Great job trading for those kids, now F***ING USE THEM!!
any news on posada?
Skinny Mike I’m a Torre fan, but he has GOT TO stop giving Farnsworth chances. Joe has always had harmonious clubhouses, but the few players who could not get along with him got the boot (Mondesi, Nelson). i can’t believe he lets Farnsworth get away with the crap he gets…
global warming-
if you trade farnsworth, eat all his contract for bob wickman (who is just as bad as farnsworth this year) while eating all of wickman’s contract, you are making a bad trade.
i think he’ll be gone by the waiver deadline.
I would like to see, for once, Torre admit his mistakes. I know that hindsight is 20/20,,,,but taking Clemens out after he had given up 4 or 6 runs and NEVER USING FARNSWORTH…I think put the team in a better position to win with the 9 runs we put up on the board, right ? I like Torre and all, but today he blew it. Roger was getting hammered, he needed to come out way before he got the hook and if today didn’t put a nail in the Kyle coffin, then both Cash and Torre are showing that they are just hard heads thinking that Kyle has any business wearing a Yankees Uniform….he is a mistake that needs to GO AWAY,,,no matter if we lose $7 million or not ? Would the BOSS OK spending 7 million right now if he knew for sure they would win the World Series as a result of letting go of that cash ? You know he would….!!!
also Molina hits better eagainst lefties so he will play Friday….
the Cano error and the Damon lineup were the plays of the game and they lsot.. they will lose more games before the season is over.
the Yanks problem is the pen and they need to change it.. torre is going to have to try some guys under 30 yrs old….
Skinny Mike the Yanks went to 6 World Series with Torre not 5 so get your gushing over him right, but guess what? Anyone could’ve managed the Yankees to all those World Series wins and appearances with the talent, money, etc. the team had. Torre lucked into the job.
He cost the Yankees the 2001 World Series by not bringing in Mendoza for the 8th inning to set it up for Mo in the 9th in Game 7. He jumped the shark bringing in Mo for a 2-inning save. B.t.w. what if the game was tied 2-2 after 14 innings?
Mo’s really in there for 7 IP? I guess he would be, but I could easily see him tiring out and losing the game. I could also see his career over after such an outing.
He cost the Yankees the 2003 World Series with that absolutely idiotic move of bringing in Jeff Weaver into a tie game in extra innings at Florida with the Yanks up 2-1 in the Series. Also, everyone kills David Wells for crapping out in his start but whose job was it to make sure he was 100%? Torre, Stottelmyre, Zimmer, and Monahan. Wells says he’s o.k., you take him at his word? In a World Series? Are you nuts? You tell him “David we gotta look at you. This is the World Series. If you can’t go today, you go tomorrow.”
I can’t think of one move he made in any Series which directly influenced a game. The ONLY one I could think of is him starting Jose Vizcaino vs. Al Leiter in Game 1 of the 2000 W.S. but that was a no-brainer considering Vizcaino owned Leiter. The Yankees steamrolled over S.D. in 1998 and Atlanta in 1999, then near steamrolled the Mets (Game 3 bump in the road) in 2000. He just sat there to watch Mo and Wettleland close down Atlanta in Games 3-6 plus lucked out with Leyritz’s game-tying 3-run shot (hit by a guy he hated). Also Paulie O’s Series-saving slide-catch to preserve Dandy Andy’s 1-0 shutout win. Showalter could’ve won all these titles and I bet he wins 2001 and/ or 2003
and leads the Yanks to the 2004 Series, too.
Would the BOSS OK spending 7 million right now if he knew for sure they would win the World Series as a result of letting go of that cash ? You know he would….!!!
Except, that isn’t going to happen. This team has more holes and more unproven help coming than just that seven million. Hence, that seven million still being here.
Just put him on the waiver wire, and see what he brings…No matter what they’re going to swallow money ….At this point it almost appears as though HE wants out…I go with SJ there’s nothing to lose by bringing up Chamberlain & Olendorf…..Hell Bruney is a far better option than Farns…..At some point ( now ) come to the rational conclusion that he’s not an answer to any bullpen questions…..
Yeah, I thought so too when he smiled as he walked off towards the crowd as they were booing him.
His cockiness is not only terribly undeserving, but out and out stupid.
No manager with brain cells left puts Farnsworth in this game. Sorry, I am a Torre fan but, he did an AWFUL job managing the ‘pen today.
No problems with him using Posada today. Would have liked to see him give Jeter a full day off but, I can live with the PH.
But, his bullpen management? As its been all year, it was awful today.
You can be a Torre fan, which I am, and see bullpen management (VERY important in today’s baseball) is a real, real weakness of his.
There is no escaping it.
posada has a bruised knee,:(
Pathetic pitching…Bos and Cle both won…3 games out of WC isn’t bad though.
Jennifer hell. just got out of class. reading post and typing on sidek. what’s up with posada?
posada bruised knee
Hey, I’m disappointed as heck at losing this game, but ultimately, the Yankees did not lose because of Farnsworth.
That doesn’t mean that the Yankees should try to keep KK (heck, if somebody wants to pay 50 cents on the $ for him, that’s still a great deal), but let’s be frank: the Yankees lost because Roger allowed 8 runs and because they only scored one run after the 2nd.
(If you look at this as a 7 inning game, the ChiSox won 5-1).
Yes SJ44 he is really not doing well in that department. It seems that his bullpen management has gotten worse since Stottlemyre left; that’s not a knock on Gator, it’s a knock on Torre.
But those who think anybody could manage any of these teams because of the talent they had…please. You’d get atomic wedgied every day in the Yankee clubhouse. It takes a different kind of dude to get all these players’ attention and respect, which Torre has done consistently. That’s why I like him for the job. Using Farnsworth today is a DUMB move but having Farnsworth on the team ANY day is DUMB, and that’s on Cashman.
Hobs – true.
If somebody had told me before the just ended TEX/CLE and CHSox/NYY series that the Yankees would pick up a game on Cleveland, I would have taken that for sure.
sry jen that was suppose to be jennifer hello.
Hey the other day I read that in Britain they’re doing research in limb transplants….Maybe the Yankees should look into that. It’d be interesting to see Kyle Farnsworth’s gigantic tattood right arm attached to the Moose.
i totally agree about revamping the bullpen. that means joe will need to “trust” some newbies, which for him is very difficult. he should be brought up on charges for what he did to edwar ramirez. the poor kid was in tears when he was sent down.
blaming Torre for Krazy man in the 8th. sj be real!!!!
he is on the team whom should they use? Don’t answer me I do not want the nonse.. Vizciano has 54 outings. If Kyle is on the team he needs to pitch.. who use Bruney, yeah he is lights out!!!
There pen sucks, check out the HR’s given up by that pen, check out the BB’s…
Mariano coming in the 8th down by 2, NO….
Karstens is a avg major league pitcher at best, his best quality is he is 23 yrs old..
no blame it on torre that kyle, myers, karstens all failed.. they failes… myers could not get 1 guy out..
karstens gave up 3 rusn….He gets a pass look at his ERA.. Look at his bb/k ratio, not pretty…….
there pen sucks, any other team except the yanks and tampa win this game, they came back from 8 zip to a team with a terrible pen and bad offense……..
another bad loss…..8 zip loss would have been easier to swallow…
i never saw the fascination with jeff karstens. He was never regarded as a big time prospect, and has average stuff at best. I know the radar had him over 90 today but i agree with you stuart. he is aberage at best.
Karstens, rasner, desalvo(less), wright(less), are TIm redding or Darrel may.. these guys are avg. unless they have a mind like glavine and maddux and learn to pitch.. they do not throw hard enoguh to be more then avg at best unless they have trmendous control and smarts………..
guys like hughes, chamberlain, etc have the chance to go big time..
Kennedy throws harder then the guys mentioned above and also supposively has better off speed pitches….
that is the facts….
Clemens pitched 1.2 innings and allowed 8 runs…but Torre cost us this game.
RIGHT ! what you just said is RIGHT !….How do you allow your starting pitcher to completely stink up the 2nd inning to the tune of 8 runs and only retire 2 batters ? Ozzie didin’t allow it…when his pitcher stunk, he took him OUT…simple as that ….Is it NOT the manager’s job to recognize when a pitcher is STINKING…then replace that pitcher ? Was Roger supposed to take himself out ? Silly, silly comment dude….I know baseball and I know what a manager’s duties are.,…do you ??
I think Karstens will turn into a reliable long reliever…No one pitched well today.
I was just thinking about the start of the year. Us yankee fans were proud of our strong pen, mocking sox fans for what looked to be one of the worst pens in the league….how things have changed
Vizcaino was available to pitch the 8th. He was warming up and should have been in the game.
If you are going to warm him up, you use him. Pitching Farnsworth in the 8th inning of a close game was dumb and it rendered the predictable result.
Then, Joe gets mad in the post-game when questioned about it.
What do you expect the writers to do? Its a legitimate question.
Why is Kyle Farnsworth pitching in a close game? I don’t see how that should make the manager upset. Unless, of course, he knows he messed up.
Tim Kurkwhatever on ESPN said Jorge is ok. Sweet.
Guys, give Karstens a break, first relief outing for him, back in the majors for the first time in months.
My friend and I were talking before, between 3 of the biggest bums in the history of this game, the Yankees have pissed away 100 million dollars:
Farnsy: 15
Igawa: 46
Pavano: 40
Just despicable, disgusting. I would rather take 100 million dollars and burn every last bill in my front yard than having any of these clowns pitch for my team.
the Cano error was huge brain surgeosn.. were there any errors like that behind Garland?/NO.
Also Melky could have had the ball to center and Clemens not covering 1st hurt.
they hit him hard, absolutely but with better D they would have scored 3 not 8 in the top of the 2nd..
Garland came into an inning up by 8 and completely sucked that is a big difference but all you proffessors continue to post your dribble and nonsenes..
again if they did not have the 3rd worse bullpen in baseball they would have minimum 8 more wins………….
8 more wins they are looking at home field advantage in the palyoffs… there pen is so pathetic that you people think having a clean inning once a week per pitcher is good…
Lets not miss the real reason we lost this game…Clemens cannot give up 8 runs in one inning !!!! forget about the Cano error.. Rocket has to lock it down… HOW MUCH DOES HE GET PAID.. FORGET ABOUT ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THIS GAME ALREADY !!!!
torre should have never warmed up Viz or true he should have pitched him…SJ I cannot disagree with that…
I was not aware that Viz was warming up, torre will not admit it but he was thinking if the yanks got ahead he would bring viz in..
yeah brain surgeons Kyle at $15 mill is a worse move then Giambi at like $125 mill or Damon at $52, or Randy at $17 mill a yr and on and on… Yes Farnsworth stinks and I do hate him but keep things in perspective..
Also Igawa gets $4 mill a yr. they did not exactly think he was Santana when they signed him….
The bullpen did not do their job today and Konerko made a great play on Damon’s line drive in the 7th.
Yes, Farnsworth again showed why he will not be relied up again and now when Joe sits him for a few games, he can say nothing.
But, they took 2 out of 3, and you can’t get distracted from winning series. It’s going to be a couple of steps forward and a step back until they play the “important” teams head to head.
So I say look on the bright side. They took 2 out of 3, made today closer than it should have been, and they have Wang on the mound against KC tomorrow.
Have a good night folks. It’s not as bad is it seems.
they took 2 out of 3 but lost the final game as they did against KC, Toronto, and others..
They need to close the door on these series.. they need some SWEEPS>>>>>
Sweeps are nice, but a steady 2 of 3 and 3 of 4 is very good.
It was an exciting game but the Yankees never had the lead in the game. After the 2nd inning the Yankees were outscored 5 to 1. The offense seemed to deflate after the score went to 10-8. The lack of timely hitting after the second inning lead to this defeat.
Good game to watch though the result was very disappointing.
We missed Proctor today, and instead we hade to use Kyle Fu**nsworthless.
To Torre strikes back:
Don’t know if you’ll even see this one, but what is the deal with giving Torre crap about resting Jeter? First of all, he is not resting his shoulder from throwing, because it’s his left shoulder! Same one that he dislocated a couple of years ago. Second, it’s his first day off in like 2 1/2 months! I’m glad Torre is managing and not you. Give it a rest!