Chamberlain on the way
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Yes, it’s true. Joba Chamberlain has been summoned here and apparently will be activated for tomorrow’s game against the Blue Jays.
Chamberlain pitched two innings on Saturday and was given two days off to rest. The 21-year-old has been lights out all season, going 9-2 with a 2.45 ERA. In 88.1 innings, he has allowed 62 hits and struck out 135.
His dad is all excited, as well he should be.
It makes sense from a timing standpoint. Roger Clemens is the kind of pitcher you can tell to go six innings and empty the tank. That gives the kid plenty of time to warm up for the seventh. It also would be kind of neat to see the 45-year-old Clemens give way to the next generation.
No word yet on who the Yankees will demote. Jeff Karstens or Jim Brower are the logical candidates. I suspect Karstens gets bumped. Villone and/or Brower can pitch in long relief if needed.
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Solid move. His arm is needed, hes a great addition. Who is going to be sent down, Gimabi & joba, dfa cairo and send down karstens?
Seven (SEVEN) hours on the phone?? I was lucky if I could my Dad to spend ten minutes on it
great move i’m excited, if he pitches the way we know he can our bullpen is fine
, who got sent down though Karstens and who else since Giambi is activated? Peter
Welcome Joba!
Do you think Brower goes down? I don’t feel he got much of a shot today.
Perhaps Bruney goes down for some fine tuning?
Now lets hope Torre will let him get through an inning. If he gives up a hit he will pull the trigger most likely in no time . The problem is this kid has the makeup to be able to work out of his own jams. All the reports say he has electric stuff.
I wonder if they’ll tell Joe he’s 30 years old so he can get in some games.
Ah some great news before bed. Thanks for the scoop Peter.
I believe Olney said Karstens would get sent down…seems to make the most sense right now.
Anyway, I was iffy when the rumor first made the rounds weeks ago, but at this point, it’s a necessary move. Farnsworth is completely untrustworthy, Brower is a question mark, Bruney walks too many guys, and Villone is what he is. Only Mariano and Vizcaino (geez, remember when people were begging to release him in May? PATIENCE, people, the Yankees would likely be in huge, huge trouble right now without Vizcaino) are at all trustworthy. Hopefully Joba will be too, but even if he isn’t, trying anything is better than staying stagnant right now.
Now, can we look into replacing Farnsworth with Edwar or Britton? Please? Pretty please?
He’s Finally On His Way!!!
Take A Look!!
http://www.jabachamberlain.com
Thank Jesus that I don’t even believe in !!!!
Yes!! I can’t wait to get to the Rogers Center tomorrow night!
According to Tony at MVN, Karstens is going down.
http://mvn.com/mlb-yankees/200.....called-up/
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! Its about time
“Now, can we look into replacing Farnsworth with Edwar or Britton? Please? Pretty please?”
I second that! Why Brower was promoted ahead of Edwar and Britton, I don’t understand.
you can’t send down Farnsworth, you just can’t man he is being owed to much money to pitch in AAA, I mean Farnsworth can be a good pitcher, remember when Viz was getting hit around for months? I know Farnsworth has been getting hit all year but maybe he can figure it out and be decent down the stretch to give Joba or Viz a days rest.
Thank you God. Even if the kid doesn’t immediately live up to all the hype (which he eventually will anyway), I, as a fan, would rather go down with players you can really root for–instead of the Sheffields, Johnsons, and Farnsworths of the world. It’s easy to cheer for this kid. We’ve got a special one.
fantastic. i’m ready to see hughes and chamberlain contribute big time. here’s hoping they do it.
“Why Brower was promoted ahead of Edwar and Britton, I don’t understand.”
From Torre himself:
“The experience that Brower has,” Torre explained.
Of course. Also, he says he can go multiple innings, so of course, he’s the perfect long-man! Sure, he’s been pitching one-inning stints all season, but he’s all set to give them 3, maybe 4 innings. I mean, he said so. And he’s 34, so he’s got the experience to know.
Brower should and will be the call down.
Can’t wait to see Joba pitch, good news too since the Viz will need a day or two off.
So our bullpen has gotten better with two moves. DFA of Myers and the addition of Chamberlain.
Things left to do on the list:
Call up Britton/Ramirez
Somehow get rid of the Farns/ don’t use Farnsowrth in key spots
After that we should all be set! Got excited and thought Detroit was going to lose tonites game but TB’s pen reared it’s ugly head and gave up 4 in relief of E.Jackson.
Edwar was terrific again tonight– Joe/Cash did you notice?
“I second that! Why Brower was promoted ahead of Edwar and Britton, I don’t understand.”
I think Britton just came off the DL, they may have wanted to make sure he’s healthy. I don’t even mind Brower getting promoted, since he was pitching well…may as well see if the yanks can catch a hot streak with him. Regardless though, I’d rather see Britton at least than half the guys right now.
“I know Farnsworth has been getting hit all year but maybe he can figure it out and be decent down the stretch to give Joba or Viz a days rest.”
He was getting hit around all LAST year too. He gets cranky when he doesn’t get to work, and then stinks when he does. How is that situation going to resolve itself? The guy SHOULD clear waivers, and then they really need to eat some cash and get rid of him. The Dodgers are DESPERATE for pitching…maybe they’ll give up something decent.
Let’s hope he does for the Yankees what K-Rod did for the Angels in 2002.
More Joba=good. Less Kyle=awesome.
Matt, it’s more about getting rid of Farnsworth, not sending him down (which he’d have to agree to, and I’d be absolutely floored if he did). You’re right about how Vizcaino was bad at first and the Yanks (luckily) stuck it out…unfortunately, Farnsworth has been mediocre at his best for 2 years now, and unlike Vizcaino who from all accounts was working very hard to correct his problem and who never seemed to complain, Farnsworth has been complaining for weeks now. Instead of saying “well, I’ve been bad, I hope to fix that”, he whines that he isn’t being used enough. Well, no kidding, Farns, you’ve been awful. Try having a 1-2-3 inning every now and then and maybe you’d be trusted to pitch a little more. That and the whole thing with Posada just sours me on him. I defended giving him a chance to correct himself early this year, but at this point, he’s not only showing no signs of turning around, but he’s trying to pass the blame around, complain about his playing time, and pick fights with other players. No thank you. I’m all for giving guys a chance and I wanted the Yankees to get Vizcaino settled earlier in the year, but after all this, forget Farnsworth, as far as I’m concerned.
Martin: Excellent point about Joba. Even if he’s just as effective as Farnsworth (which, really, that’d be an effort), at least Joba is someone you can root for. That’s something anyway. I can’t root for Farnsworth beyond wanting him to do well so the team does well. I want Joba to do well for JOBA, not just for the team.
hell yea baby. the future is now.
Is Giambi for Cairo likely?
Hallelujah. Now if Joe only will promise not to kill him . . .
Jim dont believe everything you read off mvn. Last week they made a post that started the whole Gagne rumor. Saying he was traded to the Yanks for Karstens and Clippard. I went to bed very happy just to wake up and hear he was going to Boston.
Brower would have to waived he has no options.
Kj, it’s not MVN that is reporting it. Buster Olney is (and MVN is saying that Olney reported it). Now he may be wrong, but he’s a reliable source. And honestly, Karstens makes the most sense. Brower may not be up long, but why bother at all if, after putting up an ERA under 2.00 this season in the minors, he’s going to get a couple batters then cut? I’d let Karstens pitch a bit in AAA, and keep Brower on the team a little longer. If he keeps the hot streak going, keep him up. If he doesn’t, switch him for Edwar and Britton.
Great news about Joba. Hope he lives up to his billing.
(In other news, Manny was ejected and Schilling hurt his throwing hand when he deflected a ball. Angels tied it up.)
I don’t care what they say about Polanco, Casey Kotchman is the most clutch hitter in the game! Go Angels!
Question for those who have seen Chamberlain in relief has he only been brought in to START and inning rather than in the middle of an inning. As a starter that would make the most sense. Just curious as I would assume that is how he would be used here but one never knows.
Someone can feel free to correct me but I believe Joba has only been brought in to start an inning. Good question though, Gayle…coming in with a man or two on in the middle of an inning is quite different than starting the inning.
Yes, he has started all his relief innings.
I’m a huge Nebraska baseball fan and watched Joba pitch a ton in college. He is a great guy with an amazing story of his journey from high school to college and his dad has an amazing story of his own. Husker Nation is very excited about his promotion and I wish him the best at the bigs.
My son was at the All-Star game and met Joba. He is absolutely a terrific guy– posing for photos and the like. Have to root big time for a great guy like that.
Kudos to Cashman for changing the philosophy. people laughed when he said we need to develop our own talent.. people laughed at him for trading wright, unit, and sheff for minor league players(about 9 of them). people laughed when they only signed 1 guy this offseason(yes a bad signing but not exactly a big 1).
But guess what he is doing what he said. they are getting younger and will continue to do more of this.. they are reloading as they compete for the playoffs a hard thing to do.
Joba good luck, your story sounds great, and we can really use the help.. I guess Damon the draft guru ain’t bad// they have a few young studs named; hughes, joba, kennedy, Ajax, and others..
Yeah baby…….
Olney was probably just assuming that it was Karstens because he is the best option. I doubt he knows anything. Karstens should be the one sent down. He wasnt impressive the other day and Villone could give the Yanks a couple of innings like he can and probably do a better job. Karstens is not used to being a reliever. I cant wait to see Chamberlain pitch tomorrow. For anyone that has seen Chamberlain pitch in the minors, is his fastball straight or does it have movement? We have seen what happens to straight 100 mph fastballs (Farnsworthless, Bruney).
Kyle Litke you are a smart man.
I do not think Joba is the last move I think 1 or 2 more for the pen and they have guys in the minors who deserve a shot……….
Cairo needs to go over DUncan, no contest……..
brower should be sent down. keep karstens
YESSSSSS JOBA!!!
Anyone got tips on how to shut a new puppy up?
Cashman has to get Brower off the team ASAP. Torre thinks he’s good merely because he’s old.
Who laughed at Cashman? All I heard was praise for those trades.
farns should be DL. Make up an oblique injury!
Hey gang, I heard a rumor on another board that Steinbrenner is in *very* bad shape and likely does not have very much time left…anyone else hear anything else like this? Hopefully it’s a hoax…figure this would be a good place to ask though
(came over from NY Rangers blog)
from a reliable source:
Cairo to DL
Karstens to AAA
Kevin Reese DFA
Giambi added to 25 man
Joba added to 40 and 25 man
for the pup
When is Ramirez coming back up?
What’s Cairo going on the DL for? The splinters he got sitting on the bench?
mARK i THINK YOU WILL BE correct on the moves.. Karstens is new to relief pitching and is young. if he spends 3 weeks at SWB it is no big deal..
They should give Brower the chance if he stink, bye bye…
He has pitched good this yr.. I am not saying Edwar does not deserve a chance or Britton I think they both do and if Kyle didnot have a $7 mill coming his way they would get a chance.. I think if Kyle screws up a few more outings they will be given no choice but to say adios….
Again they need more then just Joba they need 1 addtl. arm…
Unless George has cancer, which I highly doubt, anyone who claims to know that he doesn’t have much time left is a lying moron.
Marc, all of those make sense except I’m not sure why Cairo would be going to the DL…is he actually hurt? I hadn’t heard anything.
I assume he meant DFA for Cairo….
Cairo got hurt awhile ago. I wonder if those are the moves. Makes sense. Joba does need a place on the 40.
I agree Stuart that another arm would be nice. Britton, I just don’t get why he hasn’t been up before now (meaning before he went on the 7 day DL, anyway). He was good all last year in the majors, and except for the one solo home run, fine for his 4 or so innings with the Yanks this season. And he had good numbers in AAA. Edwar, etc., I get, since he had no ML experience, but Britton actually has a full year under his belt. Plus with Edwar’s continued dominance, both guys should be back up, I think. Question is who leaves for them. Farnsworth really should be one at this point, not sure who the other would be though, unless Brower doesn’t keep his hot streak going.
If I took the Xanax, the puppy whining wouldn’t make no difference
Sounds good to me, but I don’t like the way he wears his cap.
You know, everyone says how Kyle’s 7 million means we cannot just get rid of him. Well we ate 4 Million? (or was it 3?) of Wright’s salary just to give him up, and it made sense so long as we got a serviceable player in return. When is Britton gonna get a real chance? We got Myers gone, Joba’s up, if Farnsworth HAS to be here, Britton for Brower is the next rallying cry.
Edwar is much better than Brower. Experience means nothing if a pitcher sucks and Brower sucks.
In 1995 they brought up Mo around the same time of year in a similar roll. Wouldn’t it be sweet if it was a replay?
I’m kinda glad if they don’t have to DFA cairo. He’s a guy who could DL until sept 1, play a little bit before october, then not make the postseason roster, but just having him around would help with team chemistry.
Chemistry? Winning = chemistry
Miguel, you cannot just DL someone without an injury. Cairo will be DFA’d soon theres just no spot on this roster for him.
“Cairo got hurt awhile ago.”
Then how come everyone’s been wondering how they’d get Jason back on the roster? How come he hasn’t been on the DL?
“You know, everyone says how Kyle’s 7 million means we cannot just get rid of him. Well we ate 4 Million? (or was it 3?) of Wright’s salary just to give him up, and it made sense so long as we got a serviceable player in return.”
4 is different than 7, first of all, and second…eating that money meant we got a young reliever with MLB experience. The Braves were, according to reports, expecting the Yanks to eat near all of Kyle’s 7 mil, and not offering anyone like Britton in return. And there were not any better deals than that, it seems.
DFAing kyle means the Yanks pay ALL of his money and get nothing. They’d like to pay some of his money and get something decent in return. Perhaps such a deal will materialize. Probably not, though.
They will deal Farnsworth over the winter.
As things stand now, he won’t be on the playoff roster so he will be begging for a trade.
Oh, this is exciting. Glimpsing the future, and hoping beyond hope this great mix of players old and young fights their way to a playoff berth.
As for Farnsworth, here’s hoping he proves all the naysayers wrong and pulls a Graeme Lloyd, shining in the post-season and forever changing his reputation.
And, when Joba comes in to pitch, do you think they’ll play Jabba the Hutt sound effects when he runs to the mound?
CaptainsCorner
Joba’s fastball is not straight. It has late life, not like a Mariano cutter or anything, but he is able to command it. Farnsworth’s fastball is not only straight, but he has no idea where it’s going half of the time. That is not the case with Joba. He can command it extremely well for his age, and already seems on his way toward pitching INSIDE.
As far as Cairo to the DL, it’s a ploy move. He may or may not be actually hurt, but a 2 week vacation for a tweaked hammy paves the way for Giambi, gives Betemit some time, etc. All very good points by Marc.
And KJ:
“Jim dont believe everything you read off mvn. Last week they made a post that started the whole Gagne rumor.”\\
The guy you just warned is the SAME guy who posted that bogus Gagne rumor. Just to give you a heads up.
Thrillington:
Joba comes into the song “Indian Outlaw”
So that’s what I’d expect as his entrance music, though some Jabba the Hutt FX would be pretty cool too.
*BREAKING NEWS*
da Sawks and 38-Donuts just lost!!
What was once a 14 1/2 game lead, has now shrunk to 6.
tick..tick..tick..tick..tick..tick..tick..tick..tick..
Pretty good Angels win. Shilling went 6 innings 83 pitches, Weaver went 6 innings 107 pitches.
my point was, we were willing to eat the money to get this young reliever in return. what’s the point if we’re not using him when we need bullpen help?
Britton ahead of Edwar on the bullpen depth chart, IMO.
the Yankees are a few games away from being a few games away. this feels like the pennant race version of “all you need is a bloop and a blast” IMO.
Dr. Acula
August 7th, 2007 at 1:15 am
BREAKING NEWS
da Sawks and 38-Donuts just lost!!
What was once a 14 1/2 game lead, has now shrunk to 6.
tick..tick..tick..tick..tick..tick..tick..tick..tick..
JUST WHAT THE DR. ORDERED, Friend…..50 games to go and only 6 back and once again….” Objects in mirror are closer than they appear? !!!! There will be weeping in the streets of BAWSTAHN ! Another great night for the Yankees ALL AROUND !
GuidryBall
Thanks for the info on Chamberlain. I am excited to see him pitch tomorrow.
It’s nice to hear Torre say, “Cabrera is our centerfielder.” I would venture to guess that Karstens or Bruney will be demoted for Joba.
The Yankees have interest in Bobby Kielty. I guess for his ability to hit left handers.
What will Damon’s attitude be after Torre’s public proclamation?
Kielty signed a minor league contract with the Sawx.
6 games back in the division…
mel–Damon has to know that the “writing is on the wall.” He’ll be ok with being a pinch runner and occasional starter. Damon doesn’t have a choice.
Johnny B.
Mariano Rivera came up as a starter, not a reliever.
Kielty signed with the sux, been in th eworks for a week. wily mo will be looking fora new employer real soon…
“As far as Cairo to the DL, it’s a ploy move. He may or may not be actually hurt, but a 2 week vacation for a tweaked hammy paves the way for Giambi, gives Betemit some time, etc. All very good points by Marc.”
Doesn’t matter how good the points are…you can’t lie and put someone on the DL. You have to have a legit doctor diagnose an actual problem. There’s oversight on this stuff to prevent the kind of roster gymnastics you’re talking about.
“my point was, we were willing to eat the money to get this young reliever in return. what’s the point if we’re not using him when we need bullpen help?”
I agree we should be using Britton now, but I don’t see what trading Wright + 4 mil has to do with releasing Kyle for 7 mil. If they could have dumped Kyle and 7 mil last week for a player, they’re not going to do it now for nothing. That’s my point. Whether Britton should be up here instead of Brower or even Bruney is a separate point.
Welcome to Pinstripe Heaven Joba from Nebraska, and all the best to you! FIRE THAT BALL! …for strikes, of course, and GO YANKS!!!!
The Daily News is reporting Ramirez will also be called up later this week completing what basically is a total turnover of the BP.
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....hut-1.html
I haven’t really read through the blog, but I’m really excited about Joba. I don’t think he’s far along enough where he could dominate as a starter yet(big yet), but I think with the arsenal he has, it’s just a matter of confidence for him to be a dominant reliever down the stretch. I’m really excited to see him, here’s to hoping he pitches well. Either way, I hope he remains confident. That’s the key.
wowee 7 hrs on the tel is ridiculous. my dad usually “lets me go” after 5 mins
“Miguel, you cannot just DL someone without an injury.”
A couple of years ago, a player was placed on the DL for “unable to perform”. What oversight there is isn’t enough (and can’t be, since some injuries are simply not diagnosable) to avoid the DL being used as a place to park players if the team has a need.
Bout time Joba came up. He did all he had to do in the minors. You can’t stop talent.
I saw Joba pitch during the Futures All Star game, and immediately thought to myself this kid is going to replace Mariano Rivera some day. I think the Yankees are doing the right thing here and look forward to the kids progression in the coming weeks. Having one of the best closers watch you and provide insight can only help Joba.
Do you people seriously think Joba was on the phone with his dad for 7 hours? I took his dad saying that he’s been on the phone 7 hours in that he was talking to different people all day telling them that Joba was a New York Yankee.
The NY Post is reporting that Brian Bruney is the one that Joba will replace.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08.....e_king.htm
“Yesterday’s move was Jim Brower for Mike Myers. Today’s shuffle brings stud prospect Joba Chamberlain for Brian Bruney.”
It can’t be Brower because they have to wait 10 days to send him down (unless there is an injury). Also, Karstens fills the role of long man; they would want to keep him. I am not sure what they are doing with Bruney. I think he still has options.
You have it backwards, YankeeDudel. Once a player gets optioned to the minors, it takes ten days (or a DL move) to bring him up again. Not the other way around.
Correct Andrew. My bad.
“I am not sure what they are doing with Bruney. I think he still has options.”
Pretty sure he does, which is good. Bruney I don’t want to give up on. I hope they get a nice lead today so that they can let Joba get his feet wet and then have Karstens mop up.
I heard Bruney only has one option left. Cairo does have a slight hamstring tweak so he could be DLed.
Joba is nothing but a name, alot of hype, and great stats against mostly A and AA hitters until he proves he isn’t.
Russ Johnson, Alex Rios, Vernon Wells, Frank Thomas & Lyle Overbay et.al. are not A and AA hitters. Neither are the Indians or rest of the A.L.
With that said, here’s to the start of a hopefully long, solid Yankee career for Joba!
Joba is a name, alot of hype, and great stats against mostly A and AA hitters until he proves he isn’t.
True test tonight,
There’s only one way to see is Joba can live up to the hype, and the Yankees took that step in calling him up.
Also, his three appearances in AAA produced the following:
First start: 5.0 ip, 4 hits, 1 walk, 0 runs, 10 Ks
First appearance from BP: 1.0 ip, 0 hits, 0 runs, 3 Ks
Second appearance from BP: 2.0 ip, 0 hits, 0 runs, 5 Ks
His dominance was not only in A and AA; it followed him into AAA as well.
That the Yanks did, Jabba Jr. but the real first things first is Joba has to pitch well enough to stay up here. This is what has to be the predominany thought. I could care less if he strikes out 20 in 15 IP if he also gives up 23 hits, walks 13, serves up 3 HR, and allows 10 ER. It’s one thing to be called up, it’s another to be good enough to stay up. I hope Joba never gets sent back down i.e. he’s is so good sending him back down isn’t a thought. I/ we all wish that for all callups. We’ll see.
I wouldn’t be suprised if he had a first M.L.B. inning like Edwar Ramirez had (side struck out), but I wouldn’t be suprised if he was rocked for 4 hits and 2-3 runs in 1/3, 2/3, or 1 IP either. This is M.L.B., another animal altogether. I’d be content with a grounder, a fly ball, and a pop up, and 15 pitches. It’s just as good as 3 K.
If he really has a 98 MPH fastball which sometimes hits 100, and a wicked slider then I don’t care who he is facing, he will be successful. Even at the big league level batters aren’t very good facing that.
Don, have you seen Kyle Farnsworth pitch… It can definitely go wrong for you haha