Game 113: Yankees at Blue Jays (with audio)
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc, Podcast on Aug 07, 2007 
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Here are the lineups:
YANKEES
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Phillips 1B
Duncan DH
Cabrera CF
Clemens RHP (3-5, 4.23)
BLUE JAYS
Johnson LF
Overbay 1B
Rios RF
Wells CF
Thomas DH
Glaus 3B
Hill 2B
Zaun C
McDonald SS
Towers RHP (5-8, 5.17)
Pregame chatter: Jason Giambi, who appears to be in great shape, said he understood how well the team was playing and was prepared to do whatever Torre asked him. … Joba Chamberlain is an impressive young man. Walked around the clubhouse introducing himself to every player and coach. He is going to pitch tonight. … The Yankees have two of the youngest pitchers in the majors in Chamberlain and Hughes. Felix Hernandez and Yovani Gallardo are the others.
Back with more shortly including (hopefully) Joba audio.
UPDATE, 6:16 p.m.: Eureka, if you move up one row in the press box, the wireless is strong enough to upload audio.
Here is Joba Chamberlain’s first MLB interview. Very composed kid, you’ll like this:
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UPDATE, 6:31 p.m.: Here is even more audio:
Joe Torre:
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and Jason Giambi:
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UPDATE, 9:07 p.m.: Man, do I hate the wireless here. Seems my posts weren’t being saved. To sum up, Posada is good, nobody can get Melky out, there was nearly a fight and Clemens is pitching a gem.
Sorry for the technical issues.
UPDATE, 10:01 p.m.: That’s one K for Joba. Quite a start for the kid. This is fun to watch.
UPDATE, 10:06 p.m.: A walk? A walk? Now a hit? Somewhere in a Toronto airport bar, Brian Bruney just finished a beer and yelled, “I can do that,” at the television.
UPDATE, 10:19 p.m.: Quite an eventful game. Back later with some audio and the lame excuses about the benches clearing. Teams never admit to anything, it’s funny.
Meanwhile, Clemens could face a suspension.
Go Yankees! Younger, stronger!!!
Yankee fans all over are gonna love the way Joba pitches !
Imagine the bench today!!!
Giambi, Matsui, Betemit,……
And there is no weak spot in the starting line up.
Who would have thought about it a month back?
Soon we would be talking about the same about bullpen!!!!!!
Also, how nice is it to be able to look at the lineup and not consider damon, abreu, phillips, and cano’s spots weak anymore.
er… NOW can we get rid of Farnsworthless? There HAS to be a way. Would MUCH rather see a youngster up here in his place. If does no better, at least the kid would be learning to pitch in the bigs. Not much hope that Farns with a million dollar arm and a ten cent attitude would have even close to as large an upside as one of the youngsters. Rebuild… er… RELOAD from within.
We are down 6 games to Boston.
By the time this series is over we will be down 5 courtesy to Angels.
We are martching towards the divison title.
No stopping us now…..
Boston, here we come.
Josh Towers vs. Cleveland on July 8:
IP H R ER HR BB K
8.0 3 0 0 0 0 4
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Josh Towers vs. NYY on August 7:
IP H R ER HR BB K
7.0 2 1 0 0 2 7
Why isn’t Giambi getting a start at DH vs the RHP?
Damon Oppenheimer deserves a raise man… He is the draft guru.. Chamberlain 41st pick.. Giambi said he looks awesome…
Hughes and Joba 21 yrs old each……Melky 23 and Cano 24.. I thought we were old a decrepite!!!!!!!!!!!
Wang, Cano, Cabrera, Hughes, Joba – nice foundation for the 2010′s, not to mention the other tlanets on the horizon – Tabata et all
I’m sorry to hear Miguel Cairo was DFA. I liked him alot. I wish him well..
still have 12 pitchers on the roster I think…
Will they ever go to 11 and add a position player off the bench?????
they have backup catcher, Inf. dh/1B, and OF. today there bench is matsui, giambi, betemit, and molina that is a good team…..
I know every one hates Kyle.
But, before the season is over, he will help.
He has the stuff. He just needs to change his attitude.
With the kids coming up and he being viewed as dispensable, I believe it will change him.
Cairo was a good guy and love the yanks.. maybe he will be back you never know………
he also wanted to be in NY….
Can’t wait to see Joba in the late innings tonight. Go get em Rocket!
Fear Factor,
Are you very fearful today?
You keep posting the same stuff 100 times today.
Come and post it after today’s game.
Not this line, the actual line in today’s game.
Joba will tank like he did in the futures game
Again, I ask why no Giambi tonight? If he is ready to play then put him in at DH vs the RHP. Is his first game back going to be Wed instead vs Halladay? That makes no sense. If Giambi wasn’t going to start tonight why activate him and DFA Cairo? Might as well wait until you get to Cleveland Friday and give him more rehab at bats in the minors.
Good Moves for the Yankees (DFA’ing Cairo, Demoting Bruney, promoting Joba).
Cairo is a good man and teammate, but a mere shadow compared to Betemit talents. Bruney needs to accept his demotion with some grace and realize he needs to fine tune his mechanics and control.
Farns is the last pimple on the Yankees’ collective a$$ that needs to be popped. The sooner, the better.
Joba Chamblain vs. Toronto on August 7:
IP H R ER HR BB K
1.0 3 2 2 1 2 1
Pete, is there ANY chance that Torre stands up to Derek and sits him for the good of the team? It seems like, with two righty starters in a row, this’d be a great time to get Betemit in there and give jeet a nice chunk of time off, with the day on thursday.
Giambi probably will come in as a pinch hitter later in the game if it’s close (or a blow out).
Where is matsui? He DHed yesterday they have an off day thusday so im guessing he has bad numbers vs todays starer.
Giambi will pinch hit for Duncan at some point during the game. Duncan has to play sometime and today is the right time. He will not start against tough righ hander Hallady tomorrow. Giambi will start that game.
Joba will tank like he did in the futures game!!
great joba audio, pete. i’m excited for the kids. if he and hughes are able to succeed on this level this year, it could really propel this team.
i love giambi as much as the next guy, but let’s not kid each other. it’s been years since he was in “great shape.”
I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong about Cairo being DFA’ed. Torre has completely lost control of this team. First Proctor, then Myers, now Cairo. lol.
Cairo was a good guy and did a good job. Of course now that Cairo’s gone, Andy’s bat will cool off.
briggs has short-term memory loss.
Torre’s moves tody are calculated…..
He is benching Matsui, who never complain.
Also, he is second best on the team behind A-rod right now (Posada and Jeter were better earlier, before any one jumps at this statement!).
It is a message to others who will be benched that every one has to sacrifice for the good of the team.
Matsui hit a HR off Towers 3 weeks ago
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bo.....page=plays
What would the Yankees have said if Joba went out in the Futures Game throwing 100. Someone’s head was going to roll. Hughes had a rough time last year in the Futures Game. That really stopped him, huh?
Joba will be fine… imo if Edwar can k the side we should see at least 2 from joba
“Torre’s moves tody are calculated…..”
It also may have something to do with the way a lot of our vets struggle against guys they haven’t seen much. This guy owned them last time they saw him, so maybe by putting in players who just keep it simple (Duncan), we can do a bit better.
“Matsui hit a HR off Towers 3 weeks ago”
Ah.
Then I disagree with putting him on the bench today:-) I guess he felt Damon and Duncan needed to play.
“I’m going to throw the ball over the plate and if they hit it, they hit it. So be it. ” – Joba
THANK YOU CA$HMONEY
Briggs,
Joba tanked in the futures game? Last I checked he gave up one run on a weak single and looked pretty damn overpowering otherwise.
Fear Factor…
Boston losing ground fast
Ben Afflec’s new move is coming out
Rat’s infesting that AAA dump in Boston
whozat,
Towers didn’t own us – we smoked him:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/pl.....hKOl2FCLcF
July 16 he got the loss against us
“Giambi is leaner, says that he has been running to test his foot.”
YES GIAMBI IS ON THE CYCLE AGAIN!!! WOOHOOOO!! LETS REJOICE!!!!
Wow…some paint chip eaters in here…
Trolls are out already…Guess the Sux game doesn’t start til 10
The more there are, the more it shows their fear.
I guess some do know their history.
When we win today and Angels beatup on Sox, these trolls will not know what hit them.
Good question by Stef in an earlier post that was never answered…thought i’d post again for her since i’m curious as well.
“Pete—it was reported on ESPN that Bruney kicked over a chair in anger on his way out. Is this typical of his general attitude? I thought he was thrilled to be with the Yankees? Was he adversely affected by Farnsworth while he was with the club?
Did you see the scene yourself?”
Matsui is 5-22 lifetime against Towers.
Torre is doing the smart thing. Getting Duncan AB’s and resting guys who are sore.
If they win tonight, it wouldn’t shock me to see Jeter and Posada rest tomorrow so they have two full days off.
Got to win a series before you decide to rest too many people.
Lead down to 4 by end of tomorrow.
Boston Massacre 3 by the end of the month.
Division is ours Sept.1
Matsui’s knee is bothering him so they are giving him the day off…….
If Bruney is smart he will work on his control and then come back…
I’m not a troll and im actually being serious. I’d rather Giambi was on roids’ then him stinking up the joint and getting hurt. Without his roids’ we wouldn’t have beaten the Sox in the 2003 ALCS
Josh Towers vs. Cleveland on July 8:
IP H R ER HR BB K
8.0 3 0 0 0 0 4
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Josh Towers vs. NYY on August 7:
IP H R ER HR BB K
0.1 9 8 8 6 2 0
“Towers didn’t own us – we smoked him:”
Again, I am wrong:-)
When people post those pitching lines and the spacing gets all messed up I always misread them.
Besides, Pete just explained the Matsui sitting issue. Those career numbers make it look like a good call as well.
The nightly exercise of some whining about the lineup when its posted is one of the great things about this blog.
Some, have legitimate questions. Others just whine for the sake of whining.
The Yankees FINALLY have a bench. You can’t kill Torre for trying to use it.
Tonight’s bench is: Molina, Matsui, Giambi and Betemit. I’d say its a “slight” upgrade from: Kevin Thompson, Cairo, Wil Nieves, and Josh Phelps.
Let the guy do his job and enjoy the embarrassment of riches they now have on the bench.
joba gaurenteed to pitch the 3rd inning today
briggs,
Is that how they spell ‘guaranteed’ in Canada?
Sore knees for matsui doesnt sound good. maybe give him a few days off and let giambi get a few at bats at DH.
i think joba is going to be something special. i really really hope pitching this year in the pen doesnt hurt him in the long run..i doubt it will, but you never know… (wang, hughes and joba starting next year sounds nice to me).
shame cairo had to go.. he gave everything he had for this team. wasnt there a way to hide him on the DL or something.
betimit is obviously an upgrade to cairo, and having Rightie/Leftie power between duncan and giambi is damn good, but if duncan goes Kevin Mass on us, im sure we would love to have cairo back.
“but if duncan goes Kevin Mass on us, im sure we would love to have cairo back.”
Then we can just call up Chris Basak. They’re pretty much the same player, except Basak has a stronger arm. Or, since Betemit can play 3B, SS, and 2B just fine we can call up Thompson and have another great pinch runner.
Lead off HR by Damon !!! Wow
Wow. That kid must’ve watched Bull Durham 40 times in the past two weeks — straight cliche stuff.
Are there plans for Toronto to get rid of the turf? Doesn’t sound like a good thing for the players.
whozat: exactly
WHAT TIME IS IT~
…
August 7th, 2007 at 7:02 pm
Lead off HR by Damon !!! Wow
Dude, you really need to get a life…ya know, McDonald’s is hiring !
shelley duncan is so intense i love it
Michael Kay just called Shelly “Slam Duncan.”
The world doesn’t need two Bermans…
yea briggs great spelling eh? and why would you say that clemens never does poorly and when he does he has a stellar start after
“The world doesn’t need two Bermans…”
or even one…
Jordan,
Didn’t you hear? Brower’s just keeping the seat warm for Edwar the ‘Heir’. He’ll be up as soon as he gains control of that fastball. lol.
IT IS YANKEES TIME !!! Time to bring the division lead within 5 games by the time we get through THRASHING the JAYS and the BoSux and their resident fossil underhand pitcher get stomped by the Angels….SWEET…not a Home Run by Damon, but an infield single to start the game JOKER !!! LOL !!!
That is one scorching opposite field liner for a man who often resembles Juan Pierre in steroid withdrawal.
His lack of power is more than just a problem. If he wasn’t walking well above his career walk rate, he’d be Tony Womack.
there you go kaj.
run and hit and now DAMON is in scoring position…hey guys…it is RUNS SCORED that ultimately matters….let’s look at the good side of what we are doing folks !
Kaj, it’s not a good team when it relies on luck to win. It’s a lucky team.
whats the deal with the horns?
According to Kim Jones, both Matsui and Jeter have nagging injuries that they’ve been fighting through.
ron: better to be lucky than good
OK…if any more pitches look like they are aimed towards A-Rod, then the Rocket will owe Glaus some chin music….Here comes another RBI ( Home Run, too ??? ) sweet !!!
“whats teh deal with the horns?”
Canadians.
just missed it by THAT much !!! LOL ! That’s OK, we’ll get ‘em next inning, fans !!!
Ron
August 7th, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Kaj, it’s not a good team when it relies on luck to win. It’s a lucky team.
Who said we are relying on luck, dude ? Luck is sometimes in your favor and sometimes not. If you think this Yankee team is not good, then you must be a Boston fan and that is really too bad for you.
Clemens with the hook!
No, I’m quite the Yankee fan. I’m also a fan of advanced statistical analysis. And half of what they do is attempt to measure a teams ability with luck taken out of the equation.
That Johnny Damon will slap a little single and once in a while score to give the Yankees a 1-0 lead does not mean he should be leading off. Cabrera has the same skill set and does it better at this point.
ron i agree he shouldnt be leading off but i doubt hed be happy with being deep in the order. not the way it should but but you dont want an unhappy damon
See, Clemens was just really f’ing lucky.
whats the over/under for showing chamberlain today? 5.5?
Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain = Mark Hutton and Domingo Jean.
No, I want the best possible players on the field at all times. That means Johnny Damon riding the bench, and not being the most punchless DH this side of Jose Vidro.
Go JOBA!!
I think someone has a “crush” on Joba the Tub.
Lord, Jorge is SLOW.
way to round those bases devon hester
Stop da hype. It’s made Posada think he is a fast runner again.
Ya, go Joba! Way to sit on that bench in the bullpen! Alright! Woo hoo!
All in good fun…
terrible baserunning by posada. haven’t seen them making many mental mistakes lately, but that was a biggie.
The playing time between Damon and Giambi at DH should be divided 75/25 with Giambi getting the majority. The DH is a pure offensive position and Giambi is 10x the offensive player Damon is now.
(rubbing eyes)
I like the way the fans talk about bringing up players like they are interchangable car parts. Reality break here. Not all players on the farm can cut it at ML level.
Check it out, when Joba enters the game in Yankee Stadium, say in the 7th or 8th inning, I think they should play an excerpt from Return of the Jedi before whatever heavy metal/rap song he choses:
C3PO: The illustrious Jabba hopes you will die honorably…
Cue music…
Awesome, right?
blazin’ phillips !…that is OK…here comes DUNCAN !
robbie has been a lot more patient lately. it’s shown in his average, over .300 again
I can’t get over the fact that he looks like Frankenstein and his first name is Shelley.
Did Kenny say that Brian Bruney wasn’t pleased about getting sent down? Or did I misunderstand him?
No, Vinny. And not all major leaguers can cut it either. Like Johnny Damon and Miguel Cairo.
He looks like David Weathers on slim fast.
awful call that was a ball
EXXXACT SAME pitch
Cairo will make it through waivers and return in September when rosters expand. I bet he makes it on the playoff roster as well.
Marvelous Miguel Cairo will be back!
a thing of beauty !
I never remember–what do the rosters expand to?
The DUncan K was a friggin ball..
Jorge has never been a good baserunner and he sure is slow.. Faster then Giambino but probablt the 3rd slowest on th eteam after giambi and molina… the 3 of them are tortoises but still faster then frank thomas…
They expand to 40 on Sept 1st.
hahaha heads up play melky
Ron,
While I wasn’t speaking to you or even about anything you said I’ll inject my 2 cents here.
I guess you are another one of those “what have you done for me lately” fans who expect immediate gratification on every play and on every at bat or the player is worthless.
Damon, IMO, since he was hurt last year, had not been the same player. He’s had a poor first half of a season. I will agree with that. That happens to many players who are quality players. They can also bounce back in the second half of the year, which it seems Damon is doing. Not as good as he was but improving. I guess players can’t slump or they are bums and must be traded. Jeter isn’t hitting now, neither is Arod to a degree, want to get rid of them too ??? Some of you guys go too far.
As for Cairo, he wouldn’t have even been here if Cashman could have signed Betemit when he wanted to last year, he missed out. So once he got Betemit now, I expected Cairo’s time to be limited. He did his job as a backup well enough. He’s not a star and was a marginally paid player so what’s all the fuss about. Need to complain about something ???
Maybe that’s why I always forget. How do you fit 40 people in that dugout?!
that was a NUGLY bunt attempt….
damn
LUCKY BLUE JAYS !!! LOL !
Wow that’s crappy luck.
Should sit Jeter and play Betemit. Jeter’s scuffling.
i feel like Jete GIDPs every week
NICE BOBBY!
that’s a ton of missed opportunities already, but thankfully abreu picked jeter up.
luck in the wrond direction. havent seen that for awhile actually. you only notive something like that when its gone (or doesnt go your way) is there a chance abreu gets that hit in may?
Yes the skill to finish the play after snagging the ball in the first place was totally non-existent…total 100% Luck…they should NOT count those outs in the Box Score, huh, Ron ! LOOK AT THAT ! Abreu was LUCKY enough to have the pitcher throw the ball RIGHT AT HIS BAT ! LOL !
Bobbo!
Jeter needs to sit. The fact that he tried to bunt shows that he doesn’t feel he can drive the ball, and he’s not helping the team by playing hurt. I don’t care how much fans love a warrior. He needs to take a couple days around the off-day and get healthy.
ABREUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!
Reed Johnson is a riot.
Sunny, Johnny Damon has been craptacular this year. Jeter has been very, very good for his position. So it isn’t exactly the same thing.
Jeter needs a couple of days off and heal
Brawl?
Man A-Rod keeps getting thrown at. Roger needs to come out fireballin on the first pitch.
GET EM JOBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIGHT!!
kasey…a TON ? really a whole TON ??? Dude, you have to be the most negative person on the planet…..really…totally 100% negative…
Kaj, he hit a moderately well hit grounder up the middle, and the pitcher executed a rare 1-5-3 DP. Credit to Towers for the play, but that was still crappy luck.
Bush league
did you see Bowa’s eyes?!! I thought he was going to rumble!
i’m watching on game day. was it intentional?
is arod hurt?
I though this was over yesterday when they threw behind A-rod. The Blue Jays suck.
Where’d alex get hit?
kasey has apoint… three runs in low scoring games is a ton. opportunity is an opportunity. it could be 3-0 instead of 1-0.
What the heck, first pitch Towers aimed straight at the knees. You can tell that he was on purpose.
screw that. we need rocket to keep pitching and beat them the right way. we need W’s…not brawls with bush league teams.
Alex got hit on the knee. After Towers hit him, he told A-Rod to just go to 1st…wait…they’re about to fight!
from gameday it looks like the thigh
go arod
WTF is Matt Stairs this guy is a clown
Does Josh Towers really believe he has the status to tell A-Rod to point to first base and tell him to go to first? A perennial MVP candidate vs. a guy who is 5-8 this year. Worthless.
What a disgrace. This is ridiculous.
If the Yanks have any heart, they’ll pound Towers now.
But knowing them, they won’t score another run.
what pansies. nah. arods fine. hit him around the knee. theyre emptying the dugouts again right now.
Sopcast channels are offline all of a sudden. Anyone got a channel that works?
What really stinks is that the last thing we need is to have anyone thrown out of the game – so a warning’s been issued and we can’t retaliate.
Don’t worry..Joba will be throwing 100+ inside fastballs soon enough. Although with the stupid warnings it really hurts the Yanks ability to pitch inside.
will someone please summarize what happened for those of us watching on mlb game day?
dude, i WOULD NOT mess with Duncan. That guy’s HUGE
The dugouts emptied twice?
Awesome.
Anyone have a SopCast channel?
//sarcasm
If Stairs gets into the game, he’s going to get drilled straight in the ass.
Yeah…warnings blow. I was kinda hopin Rocket would come out with a hit on the 1st pitch. This will definitely carry over from tonight.
God if there was ever a time I wanted Farnsworth to be in the game….
Best revenge is a clutch base hit from Jorge.
and now the fist of clemens has unleashed the fury in a rod, in tony pena, in johnny damon, in mike mussina, in shelly duncan, in joe torre.
somewhere in boston, a newborn baby is crying not tears of life but tears of fear. the tremors in toronto carry shivers to boston. gwen stefani is cold.
the era of the fist is in full swing. beware.
alex will say “ha!!!”
clemens will bang his fist.
Darn sopcast..ugh
I love when the bullpens empty – with all of the guys running side by side in from the outfield.
And some people wanted Farnsworth gone….
Posada “Take that Blue Jays!”
Thanks Jorge.
HIP HIP JORGE!!!
That’s the right way to get back at bush league Blue Jays
Nice!
Shelley Duncan not only looks like Sloth (from The Goonies) but he protects the people he cares about.
I heart Shelley Duncan.
How sweet would it have been for A-Rod to bulldoze Zaun?
lucky lucky yankees
THATS HOW YOU ANSWER! goodbye Josh Towers.
God I love Pollyana PorkChop
Go Jorge! THAT’S how you answer their drilling of Alex!!
JORGE!!!! Best retaliation is obliterating Towers.
That a way jorgie
1) Towers threw at ARods knee.
2) ARod stares at Towers
3) Towers yells at ARod to go to first and ARod yells back
4) Benches clear. No punches thrown. Bullpens clear
Everyone cools off, then ARod and Towers start yelling again.
Duncan runs out to play peacemaker cuz it looks like Stairs is ready to rumble.
And now, we pay them back where it counts.
Atta boy! Posada makes him pay!
take that blue jays,posada has arods back.
HE DID IT AGAIN!
SopCast working for anybody?
Now I think about it, when the bench cleared, I immediately thought “Farnsie”
Maybe this was why Torre kept him around.
Can we please score 15 on these punks? Wow. I almost wish A-Rod intentionally went out of his way to run over the catcher.
Joba is gonna get work tonight, no question about it. I’m thinking Rocket nails one of them in the 5 or 6th.
BJ
Andrea, you are so right about the Goonies! HA!
That is twice they have thrown right at A-Rod…..Matt Stairs needs to pick up a bat, so he can feel a pitch in his frikkin ear !
If clubs are going to walk who ever is batting ahead of Phillips, maybe someone else should play 1B.
Reed Johnson does that all the time. He did it on a huge play that let Bernie drive in the tying and go ahead runs some time back. He always tries for these spectacular catches, and constantly turns singles into doubles and triples.
Jesus, could the Toronto announcers quit with the incessant whining ? Still beating the same old dead horse.
Khoa: I always thought he kinda looked like sloth. Good for him running out there and finding the guy with the most steam. Who knows what would have happened if Matt Stairs (who the heck is he anyway?) didn’t get held back by Shelley?
i have not wanted the yankees to win an august game so badly in my life. yesterday was one thing, but today was just completely unnecessarily and weak. roger better make this lead stand up.
God, Shelly is awesome. He was SO fired up there. So glad they didn’t send him down.
Wow, I always love fireworks in a baseball game, gets the juices flowing
Rocket definitely nails somebody before his night is up. no question about it
True Lori, I never understood the bullpens emptying running in.
5-1 Detroit leading Tampa Bay…
Gonna be tough to make up any ground…
“I’m also a fan of advanced statistical analysis.”
isn’t “advanced statistical analysis” an oxymoron in baseball?
sorry just kidding ,after reading “half of what they do is attempt to measure a teams ability with luck taken out of the equation”, i couldn’t resist poking a little fun. are you sure it’s not 48.73645647% of what they do?
Billy: Chances are they weren’t walking Cano to get to Phillips. They were walking the left hander to get to the right hander.
A-ROD is that dude!
Yeah you’re right. Talk about a head full of steam. Boras just let out a big sigh of relief.
Frank Discussion,
What are they saying?
Billy, it’s 1/2 game. You know how many days it takes to make up 0.5 games?
I have my money on whoever is the third out in the 6th or 7th… Rocket will launch a splitter right into the guys back.
The bullpens empty because they support their team. Usually a “brawl” is just people standing around. They need to stand around too otherwise the other team might have more people standing around.
I wish Shelley would have come out and tackled Matt Stairs that would have been great….
Did the benches get warned? If so…as much as I might like to see Roger throw behind someone, having to miss a start because of it wouldn’t be cool.
I wish he wasn’t nibbling, also. Or, is he just getting squeezed? He’s not throwing a lot of strikes here, and he’s behind everyone.
Anyone got a working Sopcast channel?
I think we can forget making up any ground on the Tigers until the weekend… Tampa Bay is too much of a crappy team to let even a scuffling team lose.
last i checked, cleveland and boston also play tonight. detroit may win, but if cleveland loses and the yankees win (obviously, neither is a sure bet), the yankees are tied for the wild card lead.
Sunny, true unless they’re playing us. Whats up with that?? Same with Baltimore
Yes!!! This is the way to get back at them – 40 pitches for 3IP…
“Meanwhile, they will crush the Blue Jays. This is not a team you want to get angry, not with the likes of Josh Towers on the mound.”
hope you’re right. i’m going to be beyond bummed if they lose this game.
Does anyone know if the benches got warned…I did not see any indication of that by the umpires?
I will grant you this Pollyanna…..your posts are entertaining even if fictional!
Let’s not worry about what other teams are doing. There’s nothing anyone on the Yanks can do anyhow.
And lol, who the hell is Matt Stairs? He actually plays ball? He looks older than Rocket, jeezuz.
The Tigers are the better option to stick around with Cleveland having the better chance at folding.
Just checking scores now, did a Yankee get hit earlier in the game?
“There’s nothing anyone on the Yanks can do anyhow.”
Well…except trade Farnsworth to the Indians or Tigers. That’d give us an instant leg-up on the wildcard:-)
There’s also a pretty good chance Boston takes another loss tonight. It’s Joe Saunders (5-9 3.10 ERA) versus everyone’s favor batting cage pitcher – Wake(MeUp)field (13-9 4.55 ERA).
LC, he looks like Bobblehead Youkilis with lighter hair.
We have a ways to go before the score is settled from what the Blue Jays did to Derek Jeter in 2003. Fringe player C Ken Huckaby from the Jays in full body armor ran from behind home plate all the way to 3rd base and slammed into an unarmed Derek Jeter, dislocating his shoulder and a legendary career. Jeter was out at least 6 weeks at the beginning of the season, the injury isn’t something that cures easily. The Blue Jay management left Jeter lying in a heap for awhile before getting him medical help.
I can’t wait to see highlights later.
And all of sudden the Milkman has a legitimate shot at the cycle tonight.
BJ
Lotta Yanks fans there. And Melky is fantastic.
Melky!
4th outfielder who?
Trade who for Gagne?
Duncan IMO looks like the bad guy (opposite Christopher Lambert) from the movie Highlander, Victor Kruger “The Kurgan”. The actor’s name is Clancy Brown.
call me crazy but I think it’s time for melky to move to the top of the order and damon to the bottom.
seems like melky is hitting just fine where he is.
We will see Sunny, I believe Wakefield has won five out of his last six starts.
a fire burns in toronto. slowly. quietly. invisibly.
deep inside the vicious hippopotomous, the deadliest of all animals known to man, is the image of the source of the fire. one man. the clemens that is roger.
it burns. those who offend it will burn. those for whom it burns will be warmed.
in faneuil hall an old man collapses. in the union oyster house a family is sickened by the vision they see in their bowls of clam chowder: the heat of clemens makes the cream curdle. the clams form into tiny fists. frankie valli licks his own knee-cap.
it has begun. it will continue. do not visit boston. a city of rags and fetid pwerbars will it become, home to folk groups and peruvians.
alex will say “ha!!!”
clemens will bang his fist.
It is baffling to me that Tim Wakefield has 13 wins.
Damon tho – is certainly doing a great job upping Toers’ pitch count
Even if Detroit wins the Yankees can make up a half game in the wild card race if Cleveland loses. They’d end up being tied for the lead.
jeez- how many balls are going to get hit to the wall? Why aren’t any of them going over???
Derek Jeter has GOT to get looser pants. He’s not quite as bad as Farnsworth’s ballet pants, but it’s not good.
Right now, the most important thing is winning the game. Win the game, you win the series.
BUT, if this is 7 or 8-0 in the 7th, young Mr. Chamberlain has one job…..to take one of those 100 MPH fastballs and drill one of these guys from the ribs on up and we will see if this team wants to dance the rest of the way.
I suspect, once of their guys lands on the DL, this nonsense will end.
I hate how gameday makes anything that’s not a shallow fly ball look like a near home-run. At least, it does in the Jays park.
On a quasi-related note…it’d be cool if the players’ names on gameday actually tracked their movements in real life. It wouldn’t be too hard, as long as you had a fixed near-bird’s-eye-view camera. They’re pretty distinct from the background, it’d be easy to track them.
Posada is good, but he sure as hell isn’t fast.
Andy is regressing to the mean. Giambi had better get the glut of his playing time. Teach Betemit to play 1st. It isn’t that hard. He’s a middle infielder.
OK … who throws at a Jay? Which Jay will it be?
(hitting a seagull doesn’t count, Dave.)
woo-hoo – back on track
That slide by Shelley was great
Damn it. This is finally fixed. Sorry.
man we have not been able to post for a while..
the DUncan slide was awesome.. the young guys are hungry..
Posada thinks he is Damon.. Stay at 1st man…
this game was a little intense early…
All I know is, its GREAT to see this team play with a mix of passion and anger.
That slide by Duncan was OUTSTANDING!!!!
That’s the kind of baseball that has been missing here for the last few years.
As Pete said, nice to see the guys back up Arod.
Now, let’s finish this game and get our first look at Joba!!
SJ44
I usually think you make a lot of sense, but not this time. You DO NOT ask a kid making his major league debut to go hit someone. You make it as easy as you can for the kid. Go out and throw strikes. If u want Clemens or Brower to do it fine, but not Chamberlain.
well, thomas is batting third in the next inning – if Clemens gets through rios and wells, methinks Thomas is going to get himself plunked. He better have light feet in the batters box next inning… I bet the Jay’s will all be standing on their toes this inning in the box.
That answers the question.
“Right now, the most important thing is winning the game. Win the game, you win the series.”
You got this one wrong my friend. Normally I would say you are right, but protecting not only our best player, but the best player in baseball is actually a little bit more important tonight. This has far more enduring consequences on the season than one contest. Retribution must be imminent, deliberate, and unquestioned. Throwing twice at AROD is completely intolerable and Clemens will and should settle this score tonight.
I wouldn’t wait for the chambermaid to get involved in the scuffle during his maiden voyage, although I’m sure stairs is wondering what a 102 mph fast ball in the knee might feel like.
BJ
I guess Clemens figured he was done. No better time to throw at a guy.
Clemens did his damn job.. Moose would have never done it.. that is why teammates love Clemens..
he is monster..
HA! Stupid Blue Jays, don’t mess with the sleeping giant.
Andrea, do you know what TMI stands for? ref., Barishnakov!
What a great opportunity to get Joba in the game! Better yet – Rocket PLUNKS that SOB!!!!!!
I LOVE BB Justice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is why I love what Clemens brings to the table — I don’t care if he did it on purpose or not
The Rocket is the man. Finally someone standing up for Yankee hitters!
Looks like the extremely short outing for Clemens last time has helped him…he looks awesome…almost reminds me of the ALCS vs. Seattle in 2000 when he had the 1 hitter….Sox fans are probably cringing at the way we are playing…..if the bullpen can straighten out we have a shot at winning it all…first time I have felt like that all year…feels good!!! This also reminds me of how the Sox got hot in 2004 after struggling, won the WC, and of course the WS…maybe we can do the same!!! Could this almost brawl and now Clemens hitting Rios(nice job Cemens!!!!) tonight be our Varitek-AROD moment???
SJ44, I agree that Duncan slide was worth the price of admission. Gotta love the heart the Yankees are showing. Darn not Joba time yet.
The Farns will pitch the 8th and Joba the 9th. I can’t wait!
Oh wait a second looks like Roger took care of business. Aw man the Farns could of won some fans over if he plunked a Blue Jay, then again he’d probably miss.
Glad Clemens hit Rios so that Joba doesn’t have to worry about doing it. Wonder if Roger will get a suspension?
wow – torre gets ejected too – I guess he and he rocket are pretty tight after all
Damn right he did it on purpose and he should have.. the guy did it with a 2 hitter……
that is called a teammate….
Fatboy lumberjack stairs did not seem to have any issue!!!!!!!!!!
The Yanks are playing with a lot of heart right now.
I wish Clemens would have done it with 2 outs in the inning….
Roger took care of it, which is fine by me. Somebody had to get hit tonight.
Would have rather it had been with a 100 MPH fastball instead of a 90 MPH fastball but, what’s 10 MPH between friends. lol
“or not” can be trimmed off that post.
I hope he doesn’t get suspended.
I think Angel Hernandez was afraid of Clemens
That was dumb by roger. Sorry, but when you’re at 90 pitches through six and are CRUISING, you can give your team another inning. You want to hit a guy? Ok, get two outs and THEN hit a guy. Putting the leadoff guy on is dumb.
2007 yankees: brotherhood of the fist
get pumped yankee fans. bang your fists.
i agree that shelley slide was terrific, great hustle
How many yankee pitchers would have did what Clemens just did?? That is what makes him special.
Can someone describe the Duncan slide… I missed what happened.
Obviously I’m glad they didn’t send the kid out there to get suspended. Looked like Clemens was saying that the umps didn’t make clear the warning for both benches. The whole beanball war stuff is so pointless; I don’t feel much better 2 hours after the first incident and I felt much better after Jorge’s 2-run double.
And LOL at the idiot Blue Jay fans cheering the guy who just shut their team down for 6 innings.
Here comes Hard-Hit Brower to end the shutout.
Hopefully Joba will get a full inning to himself.
A-Rod-Varitek-Mueller did not ignite the Red Sox, contrary to common myth. They continued to play .500 baseball for some time after that.
Besides, Varitek fought like a girl, not taking his mask off. Don’t really want that kind of sissiness associated with the Yankees.
GW -
This is now declared a Farnsworth Free Blog. He does not exist on our roster. He does not exist on others’ rosters. He is sleeping with the fishes.
I miss Proctor, he would have thrown towards the head.
Very happy Clemens stood up for his teammates – very shocked Tallet didn’t get tossed for hitting Cano, though.
That depends – (I’m not watching the game) – did the umps issue warnings after the Towers’ plunking? If so, then Clemens could get a couple game suspension (along with Torre). When it starts – depends on when if Clemens appeals.
Rocket better not get suspended. He’s just protecting his players.
“That is what makes him special.”
No, it makes him stupid. Putting the leadoff guy on when your pitch count is still low is dumb.
Any idea what Roger was saying to Angel? Ok, I know we all have an “idea,” but those actually watching Roger’s mouth, can you tell what was actually said? John and Suzyn keep saying how animated Roger was and how no one else said a word.
I doubt Rocket will get suspended. He put on a pretty good act with the ump. I say we bring in Krazy Kyle now and let him go nuts on them.
well crap
“did the umps issue warnings after the Towers’ plunking?”
If they did, then Tallet should have gotten tossed. It’s automatic after warnings.
See, now roger “protects his players” and the Jays wind up with two men on and no one out in the sixth. Roger could EASILY have gotten through this inning and put the team in a better position to win…which is what this is all about!
brower – No walks please!!!
need a GIDP now.
God Brower’s awful isn’t he?
Jim Brower sucks. That’s why he was a minor league free agent. He doesn’t even have Edwar’s youth.
Did Chris Britton burn down somebody’s house or something?
Brower reminds me of Bruney.
i agree the umps did not make it clear that both benches had been warned…I do not think Clemens will get suspended…but I think Clemens should have at least got two outs and then hit someone….but at least he hit someone…becuase you know Wang was not going to hit anyone tomorrow.
Brower ? What is the deal with this guy ? He seems like he should wear a generic uniform that just says “pitcher” on the back….
God, if Shelley and Karstens are ever in the same HD frame, the TV might explode.
I know I shouldn’t encourage him, but I can’t get enough of Pollyana Porkchop tonight.
Brotherhood of the Fist indeed!
And Shelley’s slide better be on the highlight video for this season. I can’t wait to set that crazy nutter loose in Beantown.
on one side of it – I wish rocket would have waited until there were at least two outs. But I’m not going to argue about him doing it.
On the other side, the reliever should do a better job than walking his first batter.
whozat – can you count higher than fingers and toes?
How many pitches do you think were left in the rocket fuel? Rocket is a 6 inning pitcher and he believes in the integrity of the game – not the ump-ruled game (warnings and other BS) but the real game of broken bones and posing at the plate over a HR blast.
God Bless Roger and the Old School Justice without Ump BS
my eyes decieve me – it’s tigers 6, tampy bay 6… is that right???
Explain to me again, someone, what the Yankees see in Jim Brower.
what is with the slide ? i missed it..
Brower has just committed the cardinal sin of walking the first guy he faced and it wasn’t close.
did Damon even see the ball?? crap!
Alright! Let’s give this game away!
what did shelley’s slide look like?
Brower is leaving tomorrow now for Britton.
Wonderful. Seven run lead and Brower walks the first guy he faces. We got a lot of pitchers like that, don’t need another one.
Tops it off with a double and its close to becoming a new game.
Get him out and try somebody. Unfortunately, he flunked his test.
nice – good job brower –
DFA please.
That was:
A) Hit REALLY hard.
B) An example of why Johnny Damon should be riding the bench.
This game is getting fringteningly close
How can Damon play well in center and be a nimbiclie in LF? Looks like Giambi is a better option!
That was tough to call – Brower’s line drive % is 100. Keep it up, Generic One.
Detroit and D-Rays now tied at 6!!! Good job out of Clemens. Seems like BS that he gets tossed and our pitchers can’t retaliate after they throw behind A-Rod yesterday, hit A-Rod and Cano today. Doesn’t seem right. You would have thought the Jays would have let it go after yesterday.
I suspect it will be Brower for Ramirez. According to Feinsand the Yanks want Edwar up by the weekend.
Bruney got sent down because he walked too many batters right? So why is Brower here?
get him back to SWB so he can win his AAA closer of the year award….he suuuuuuuuuuucks
Thats what I was thinking David. Personally, I’d rather have Bruney. Lesser of two evils in my opinion
As we said yesterday…this Brower is no good. He should be gone after tonight.
whoa – an out. I’m stunned.
Looks like we ignited the Blue Jays. Now they will win this game and make a charge for the division and playoffs.
I know why the Yankees kept Kyle around…because he’s good at fighting?
(Krazy as this sounds, that would get him on my side just a bit. not much though…)
Brower throws like 120% sliders.
Brower has really hittable stuff. Ramirez and/or Britton can’t get here soon enough.
Well, the Brower experiment is a big failure. Man, 7 run lead and you still have to sweat 7th and 8th innings.
Staying too long with him. This can only be bad.
Leiter just called that slider Brower’s bread and butter pitch. That’s weak sauce. Lucky Glaus is lost at the plate.
Vizcaino warming up? What the….it is still 7 to 2. I hope he has his arm insured.
Mike-
Please take a big slug of your beverage of the evening.
I hope that “fringteningly close” was a joke. please confirm so that we don’t send the nice young men in little white suits to your home.
Viz??? Dude’s arms gonna fall off.
games so far of interest:
Baltimore 3
Seattle 2
TBay 6
Tigers 6
Clev 2
CHW 1
Viz is up ? Vizcaino must mean Proctor in spanish
Can someone fire Joe before he kills every arm in that bullpen? Vizcaino shouldn’t be avaliable.
Gee, right now I wish Bruney was in there. Or even Myers. Oops
This is all a ploy to give Joba a meaningful situation … let the Jays get within three … Vizcaino to finish the 7th … Joba for the hold … Mariano for the save.
Why else would Torre have this bum in the game?
Brower does have an impressive slider, I guess, but it’s nowhere near the strike zone. Major league hitters are going to lay off those pitches. Brower doesn’t impress as any more adept at throwing strikes consistently than any of their other middling relief pitchers.
Just once I’d like this pen to give me a scoreless game.
I think I understand it – the Yankees just want us to appreciate Farnsworth that much more. Farnsworth usually gives us 3 outs.
Again, Edwar Ramirez is fabulous in outing #1 and sits the bench for two weeks. This guy gives up nothing but line drives and he’s workhorsing it. Where’s Karstens, Villone or (gulp) Farnsy? Ridiculous.
Miguel, thats hilarious. You know, you’re right. that would actually move him up a couple notches in my mind as well.
So why is Viz warming up? Isn’t this why Joba is here??
Viz should not even up and throwing. This guy Brower sucks!
Let’s hope the damage is kept at 5 runs this inning.
I’m praying to the god’s of GIDP
Hey, good for him. Props to Generic Jim. I’ll refrain from any further snarky comments as we’re still up 5.
Thank god for DP’s.
Warming Viz up is Donnie’s call, not Torre’s
Joba I think is coming in the 9th.
at least Browers last pitch as a Yankee resulted in a GIDP
joba the 8th
farnsy the 9th
Chris Britton could be the answer. The only answer that Brower will ever provide is as the AFLAC trivia answer for some monumental home run.
Thanks, AAABrower.
Didn’t Torre get tossed when Clemens got tossed?
I agree with Al I think Brower has a good slider from the looks of it. His fastball is 93 but it doesnt seem to have much movement.
Lori,
Joba will only start an inning.
No matter what happens in this game the worst thing is that Viz was warming up. If we make the playoffs Joe will make sure our pen is hot for the important games.
This has to be Brower’s last game. I may be a tough grader but, its August, you are in a fight for the playoffs, and they don’t need another guy who can’t throw the ball over the plate with a 7 run lead.
Its ok to give him a try but, when you flunk, you flunk.
Get rid of him, call up Ramirez and give him the next shot.
You had your shot Jim, you bombed. Want more of a shot, go to Tampa Bay and they will make you their closer.
strike that meant to say if the score stays as is with a 5 run lead farnsy inthe 9th
Great, now I owe the god of GIDP’s a mozzerella ball.
Ok, Brower got out of it (though he surely is going to AAA tomorrow), so PLEASE, TORRE, SIT VIZCAINO DOWN AND DON’T LET THEM GET-UP AGAIN UNTIL FRIDAY!!! (Yes, I know getting them up and down is called a dry-hump, but darn it, it’s better that he have blue balls and two arms).
Torre must be on someone elses payroll as flat out can’t coach his bullpen – he leaves this idiot Bowers in instead of bringing in Joba. Someone get rid of Torre NOW!!!
Again, warming up the Viz was Donnie’s call. Not Torre’s. Torre got tossed.
I don’t even know why Brower was up..Edwar should be here.
Haha, Khoa, I was looking at the comments and thinking “Wait, how can it still be torre’s fault… he’s not even in the game anymore…”
wow- khoa is not onlu a blogger – he is also in the dugout to let us all in to who is making the call to Gator.
I am amazed that I have this insight to our inner working!
WHAT BS!!!!!!
BX,
I am still laughing at that post!!!! Post of the night!!! lol
JRVJ and mreed – Torre got tossed… Donnie is calling the shots now.
Joba for the 8th.
Mariano, Call me….
Um. no TK. it’s called TV.
devil rays. I’m speechless.
Doesn’t Brower have to clear waivers in order to go back to AAA?
I didn’t know dickhead got thrown out that’s how much I hate’em.
This is crazy! There is no reason for Viz to be warming up, give Joba the opportunity to get his feet wet.
Oh yeah, we still get to bat. I forgot about that.
Let’s give Joba that much more room, please.
dontfirecash, I um don’t think that will be a problem… do you?
Melky is the man…see you in CF for the next 12 years and a few WS trophies as well….he reminds me of a young Bernie….
I hope that “fringteningly close� was a joke. please confirm so that we don’t send the nice young men in little white suits to your home.
You mean a 7-2 lead isn’t a reason to panic and call for the firing of everyone in the organization and releasing everybody on the roster?
Torre’s methodology has rubbedoff well – Hitman should no better!!
I’m sure Torre is calling the shots from the clubhouse. That’s what batboys are for.
SJ -
Right again – Brower is only a miniscule bandaid, disposable soon (like FARNSY)
Just Torre!!
Melky is playing out of his mind!!!!!! That’s for all those so-called reporters (John Heyman) and “analysts” (Steve Phillips) who said the Yanks should have traded Melky for Gagne, because he was a “Fourth outfielder at best”.
I know I usually play the optimist here, but Brower wasn’t that awful. I don’t think it’s fair to eliminate him from the mix just yet. He might come in handy down the stretch.
SJ,
I agree, to a point. I think you give the pitchers with talent a chance. If Joba bombs, he gets a few more looks. Same for Edwar. But Brower is a retread without dynamic stuff, so he must be sent down or dfa’d.
Joba is well set for the eight inning.
Team is leading by a good margin.
The lower part of Blue jay batting order is up in the inning.
Sunny,
Shouldn’t be a problem, but it makes the callup of Brower even more puzzling. Unless the Yanks thought he was going to be here for awhile(which I guess they did), they should have just called up Edwar who has options.
Whose panicking?
Joba’s already ready with no one out, it might be awhile.
Folks, come on, you’ve never heard of cellphones and such?
No way do I think that Torre headed out the Hard Rock Café up there for a Hurricane and is not in contact with Mattingly and Guidry.
BTW – Men on 2nd and 3rd, 1 out, good chance of at least 1 run coming in, I’d say it’s even more of a reason to sit Vizcaino down.
Peace and Love Mike NYY
Unfortunately, Indians, Tigers, Mariners will all win.
Angels you’re our last hope.
dontfirecash
I think brower had better stats for a longer time in AAA and had shown durability for playing in multiple games in a row – which was a need up here all season long. But I don’t think it was either/or – Edwar is coming whether browers here or not. From what I’ve read – Torre like the fact that Brower can pitch three days in a row… unfortunately, he didn’t use the word *effectively* in there.
The fact that Viz was even warming is ridiculous. He pitched last Wednesday, Friday, Saturday and two innings on Monday.
Lol nice
Viz was just up because they wanted to save Joba to start an inning not come in with men on base. Joba is coming in after 2 more Yankee outs. The show starts soon. The future is now.
Bobby!!!
SuhWeet – Let’s get Joba in there!
Prediction: Chamberlain allows the bases to get loaded with no outs but then bears down and K’s the side
Actually, I’m cool eith that- I’m more concerned with the Yankees and as long as they keep play solid baseball, the playoffs will come. Everyone starts 0-0 then so I honestly don’t care if it’s thru the WC or Division. (Altho – i’d definitely like the Division Champs thing *much* better).
Hello for those calling for Joba in the 7th. They are not bringing him in the middel of an inning that h as been said that is the deal for now so he was never coming in at least this game until the start of an inning
These scores lately have been incredible. Remember all that talk during the spring about the possibility of 1000 runs? Wished we had swung like this during the first half. Simply amazing.
Joe Torre, call me….I dont know anything about the company, but I can tell you my product works, it works.
Hmm…Alex seems to be struggling lately, but it’s hard to notice when everyone else is bombing the ball.
Now that we have seven run lead, brace for Kyle in the ninth inning unless Joba gives up a few runs in the eighth.
is arod’s quest for 501 a big deal or something? Did I miss the memo?
Yeah, I agree Gayle
Toronto should be ashamed of way they treated A-Rod tonight. who’s their Mayor? I’ll write him.
Abreu has been padding the stats lately. Earlier in the season no one would of thought that Bobby would get 100 RBIs, now it seems like he’s going to be well over it.
285 BA 11 HR and 74 RBI as of tonight.
How about getting Villone in when Brower started getting in trouble. There are other pitchers in the pen besides Joba and Villone has shown he is capable if not spectacular.
this may have allready been mentioned but has anyone noticed that Cano has walked 3 times, plus a HBP….he is learning.
The Joba Chamberlain Era has begun
Toronto treats him just fine Chris if you know what i mean.
Chamberlain, you’re in……
It’s Joba time
Welcome to the show, Joba – I expect nothing less than 4 strikeouts on 12 pitches, with one passed ball (because no scorer would give a wild pitch to Joba).
This looks like a job for Joba!
You guys have to excuse me as I just needed to vent my frustration. Since Stottlemeyer and Zimmerman’s departure our bullpen has been terribly mismanaged and Cash and Levine have almost complete left the pattern unchecked, I just can’t understand it. I know it’s his first year but Gator needs to speak out on this mismanagment if were to be effective in the race because if I could I would.
Poor Joe, he can not watch Joba pitch in person.
Hey Giuseppe,
Thanks again for the 14 mystery hair plugs you gave me! It helped me land a spot on Entourage.
Yea….the product works…just like….Giuseppe says…
….yea…
Hey, anyone have an opening in a film or something this year? I’m pretty free.
Thanks for the hair,
Gary
Joba’s picture on Gameday is awesome
Ok – let’s see the future . . .
Here’s a good one. Peter “I don’t really understand baseball, but i disguise it by saying how good everyone will be as well as being a nice guy” Gammons said that Caca Crisp is the best defensive centerfielder in baseball. Right, and Manny Ramirez has “learned” to play the position.
Keith FL….
I completely agree, if Melky was a stock I would loan Steinbrenner the money to resign A-Rod.
People were high that wanted him traded for Mike Gonzalez and his barely connected elbow
Joe should get a bobby valentine disguise so he can watch from the tunnel.
With a five run lea you have to let Brower work his way out of the jam. There is no reason to bring someone else into that inning unless Zaun got a hit.
The illustrious Joba hopes you will die…honorably….
Torre getting tossed: when both teams are “warned” the manager is automatically ejected when the next batter is hit.
I have to say, Torre didn’t put up much of a fight.
Kids that go through college first are so always so much more composed when speaking to the reporters. Wished I could say the same for my man Vince Young though.
I like that poster name, DONTFIRECASH as I agree wholeheartidly!!
C3PO, a Joba/Star Wars promotion sometime down the road at the Stadium would be HILARIOUS.
JOBA HAS THROWN 3 BALLS, SEND HIM BACK TO AAA. Sorry just wanted to beat the negative nancy’s to post that.
ahhh Sterling is not giving radio listeners enough info…I want him to say what pitch and the speed, unfortunately I doubt john would do that.
A little nerves for the kid but he should be ok
That was one filthy slider.
Joba is on pace for 16,000,000 strikeouts!
Sweet breaking ball.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Sterling’s an idiot
Strike out number 1. . .
K!
Slider was absolutely filthy
All hail the HITMAN!!!
LOL Jeff
I mean I know its either fastball/slider, but I want pitch speed. Does it tell you pitch speed on gameday?
what’s his speed? 103 or 104?
98-99-97, last three pitches on gun.
tell us what these pitches look like!
I saw 99 once.
only in certain stadiums – apparently, Toronto’s isn’t one of them
Chris, thats what his slider was clocked at.
Joba didn’tt strike Reed Johnson out!!! He is a gigantic Failure!!!!! We should trade him for magic beans and a pair of socks!!!!!
alright, Sterling finally realized Joba throws hard and he is giving pitch speeds.
getting squeezed a little
That slider is nice, if he has good control, I can see why he would be so dominant.
He’s also 8 ft 7, legs as thick as California redwoods and hair as red as the fires of hades.
BOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
The Devil wears Prada.
The Savior wears #62.
filthy slider at 90 plus….nice
99mph cheese….nice
Now if he would only drive over to Carl Pavano’s house and toss him down a flight of stairs….he would be perfect
Walked him?? That’s it. Send him back.
Just kidding : P
that slider is naaaasty
Again a bit of nerves but he should be ok!!
he is tossing 157 KPH….
Khoa – re: VY
I’m a UT grad who LOVES Vince Young. He justs needs some better advice and help (he showed up to the Whitehouse in a jogging suit)
He is the best leader of men I have seen except for Jeter!!!!
I know, totally off topic!
Very tricky, Melky. Does this mean the Jay’s will throw at him tomorrow?
did it bounce off the ground ??
Gotta love those first pitch strikes…
Since they are in Canada,Joba’s speeds are measured in Kilometers per hour not Miles per hour, so he is really throwing about 55 MPH (kidding of course).
Will Chris Russo call him “Jabbar” tomorrow?
TK, same here. Hookem!
There you go!!!
good enough for me – no nibbling
BX 12 Fordham Road
Go watch cricket with those ridiculous stats!!!
USA, USA
Better than Farnsworth would have done. Cash, can we keep him please? We promise Joe won’t give him the Edwar or Proctor treatment, pretty please!
Top Cat, yep. Nice acting by melky though
Hip Hip hooray! All hail Chamberlain! A pitcher who comes out of the bullpen and gets through with no runs! (Ok, still not a 1-2-3 but hey, Farnsy is still with us too)
Not bad, got the job done. Good debut for Joba. Did not freeze up with men on base.
Not bad, he can’t keep leaving his fastball over the plate. He should work down in the zone more too, but nasty nasty stuff.
But he’s on pace to 16,000,000 walks and hits as well.
Not bad. He was better than both of Gagne’s appearances with Boston.
Where can i get a 62 jersey???
not bad: 1 hit, 1 K, 1 walk, no runs, 13 strikes, 8 balls.
let him pitch the 9th
Off topic – anyone watching Brox is Burning? – Can anyone tell me why the Son of Sam murder spree is featured so predominantly in a story about the Yankees 77 season? I don’t get it.
What’s the over/under for the next time Torre uses Joba in another game? 7 days? 10? 14?
damn…everyone else won tonight, hope the Sox trip up and we wake up 5 out…..I love the smell of fear in New England…..it smells a bit like chowdah
Hah! Good Bruney quip, Pete.
Whoa, Joba’s pitching the 9th! Good call Donnie Management.
Very fluid and very Electric…..He’s a keeper….Toss the others away…..One more inning….
Threw strikes, one semi-kinda-hard hit ball, a strikeout and a walk. For a 20-year-old’s debut, not too shabby. Hell, if Farnsworth did that I’d be making a shrine.
Hook’em horns!!!!!
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
OK…Papelbon he’s not…at least not yet.
But not a bad debut. Just out of curiosity, anyone know how Papelbon did on his first attempt as a closer? I remember full well Rivera’s conversion from starter to bullpen arm in 95. Just looking from the standpoint of mre recent history.
He works down in the zone. That’s his strength.
First ML outing, he was fine.
Luis Vizcaino’s arm thanks the Yankees for calling up Joba Chamberlain.
Sunny…they made it about the Yanks but the book was about the whole city, Yanks, blackout and looting, Son of Sam, me in summer school for geometry, etc…
He looked real good… Bruney has 1 pitch a fastball… his breaking ball stinks..
Joba looked real good…….
Sunny, The Bronx Is Burning isn’t ABOUT the Yankees. It’s about the happenings of New York City in 1977, of which the Yankees are the main focus. The Son of Sam killings, the majoral race, the unemployment, the black out, the riots, etc… they were all a part of that year in NYC.
Although it looked “good,” he is NOT going to be a savior. There were at least 3 or 4 fastballs that he missed by a severe amount, including the one to Rios, and the one that Wells popped out to left. That explains why he looked a bit unhappy upon leaving the mound. He’ll do pretty well because he throws so hard, but don’t expect him to be as good as Zumaya was last year. He’ll put up somewhere around a 3.3 era, and probably be a good 7th inning guy. I’d still rather have Vizcaino in the 8th. Down the line, he’ll be ridiculously good, but right now there are a few chinks in the armor.
Sunny – the book that the mini series is based on concentrates more on the Son of Sam and the blackout than the Yankees believe it or not. The book is a great read (a thousand times better than the mini series even though it is rather good), and I recommend it to anyone who not only is a Yankee fan but a history fan of New York City.
Hardly a flawless performance but an auspicious debut, nonetheless for The Kid. I guess it doesn’t hurt to pitch him another inning. They won’t pitch him tomorrow regardless and the Yankees are off on Thursday.
Giambi neeeds a hair cut.
SJ…
don’t worry Torre was in the clubhouse refereeing the arm wrestling match between Duncan and Vizcaino last inning
The GIAMBINO! Welcome back, sir.
is tomorrow a day game?
Giambi doesn’t look like such a big fat bastard. That’s pretty cool.
THE GIAMBINO!!!!!!!
Al – this just in “Dawgy” is a hater who still doesn’t realize we are going to make the playoffs.
He has Daddy issues!
BTW – For those clowns to tell the guy who caught the 500 HR ball to give it back for free after they talk about their vacations in Nantucket and the Hamptons is the most BS display I have ever seen.
The poor schmuck has a lottery ticket that won, let him cash it in.
For millionaires to lecture an ordinary guy to give the ball to a mega-millionaire is just the worst display of detachment I have ever seen.
/end of sermon!
Look at that blazing speed!
See how things work – Torre gets ejected so that the frontoffice can really see what his management influence has had on Donny so then this kid (praise be to Cash) comes in ironically to clean up Joe’s poor management
Good Lord, Don’t look now but the Melkman is hitting .303
my gawd!
Giambi actually showed some speed, not like the three-toes sloth he’s been in the past
TKinDC – to think that ARod wouldnt take care of the guy if he just offered to give it to him for free is just stupid.
Dude, it’s his first appearance. Missing with his fastball isn’t the issue, the issue was getting him through his first inning alive. And he made it…and looked great.
Joba will be fine.
Yankees are showing mercy here, they’re not pinch running for Jason.
With Joba not available tomorrow and Thursday an off day, it makes sense to let him go 2 innings tonight.
ah- thanks guys – I think I’ll go for the read instad of watching the show.
Don’t know who’s gun says 99, but MLB.tv had him at 96 just about every fastball and 87 on the slider. Great location despite the walk. The first pitch was a strike and he didn’t get the call. It looks like Joba can put it wherever he wants. Hitting corners. Then he through one right over the middle and the hitter couldn’t come near it. My only concern is it doesn’t like like the fastball had any movement. Fast yes, but straight. He has a great fluid easy motion. Not as easy as MO, but easy. Good for the shoulder and elbow. The slider had decent movement for a pitch that fast at 87, but it stayed up every time he through it. The bottom line is that nerves in a first appearance will suck the movement out of a fastball and will keep your slider up. I would expect the slider drops down a bit next inning. Hopefully next appearance we see some movement on the fastball. By no means am I criticizing Joba. What I’ve seen is great and I expect it to get better still.
The beautiful thing is the control he has shown already. I’ll take 1 of him over 3 of the retreads that we have been calling on.
Seems to me it’s hard to criticize a guy who just tossed a scoreless inning and started this year in A-ball. Just my opinion…
I watch the “Bronx is Burning” and while it’s mediocre at best, I enjoy Turturro’s performance (the ears are ridiculous though).
For a good movie on this period, see Spike Lee’s “Summer of Sam.” The series feels like a really bad ripoff of that film.
Sunny615,
The bronx is burning is not just about the Yankees – it is a chronicle of the major events in the Bronx in 1977. The NYC mayoral election, the economic situation, son of sam and the blackout are all also featured. The book that the mini series is based on is a fun read.
Joba’s fastball generally has late life, I am listening and the idiot in the booth isn’t telling me much.
Are Tampa and Chicago on Lucchino’s payrole?
alex if you are saying that about Joba with a straight face you are a friggin moron..
it is on par with bill frist(DR.) congressman saying from a videotape that mary schiavo was not brain dead.
really are you a clown…
torre didn’t get himself ejected.
once the benches are warned, the manager is “automatically” ejected – strict liability- once the next batter is hit.
A little surpised he is out there for the 9th Farnsworth is really in the outhouse
*Somewhere in a Toronto airport bar, Brian Bruney just finished a beer*
Something tells me he’s had more than one today…
BX….lol
Giambi does look like he lost some weight. Actually looks fit.
I love how somebody can tell in 20 pitches that the kid isn’t a “savior”.
Newsflash…..nobody is asking him to be a savior.
All I know is, he faced two all star hitters (Rios and Wells) and neither guy could center his fastball.
The Yankees don’t have ANYBODY besides Mo in the bullpen who can do that.
Anybody who thinks this kid isn’t good, knows nothing about baseball.
Is Curtis Thigpen the son of former major leaguer Bobby Thigpen? I’m curious…
WOW
i wanted to pass on something to my other blog readers…
my father passed away today at 57 years old. he always used to tell me stories of when he was in the electricians union on how he got to work on the stadium renovations and how much he enjoyed it.
when i got home from all the madness that was today all i wanted to do was sit with my wife, pug and watch the yankees win. thank you roger, thank you joba and thank you boys. you made me feel better. you made me put aside all the anger i have felt today.
thank you peter for giving me this place to put this. maybe some how, when you talk to joba… you can tell him one day that a guy who grew up with a single parent who had 2 strokes and raised two great sons watched him on the day he pitched his first major league game just 3 weeks after seeing him in AA ball and felt nothing but relief that something good make me feel better.
thank you to the new york yankees for giving me the passion i have for this team and allowing me to escape just a bit.
K!
Well, all my fellow Horns. Looks like another Texas Ex made it to the bigs. Lets hope he K’s HA!
TK…
totally agree, this guy deserves what he can get for the ball and the dopes saying to give it back for a hug from A-Rods wife are fools….
A-Rod did not sign for a nickel less than he could get (and will do that again this year) and yet this guy is supposed to give the ball to him because it is thre right thing.
I tell you what, I would hang onto the ball until A-rod was found living under the FDR in a large appliance box and THEN I would give him to ball back to help him get on his feet….
joba WOW! I am drooling
Alex gat a clue…That was the most difficult he’s ever done in his baseball life….He did good…As he gets comfortable, watch out….
We are spoiled. WOW!
Condolences Jay, that’s heavy. Sorry for your loss.
I can’t believe these comments on Joba based on about 20 pitches thrown in the major leagues. Let’s see what he does over the next few games before we throw him away. At least he’s getting guys out (so far!)
We appear to have a Torre defender!!
Jay, may your father rest in peace.
Jesus. Sorry for your loss Jay. My wife and I will keep you in our prayers tonight. Enjoy the game. It’s good times to be a Yankee fan (imagine that after the first half we’ve had)
my condolences Jay -
Stuart,
How am I a clown? You’re the one who isn’t really backing up what you’re saying. All I said was that several fastballs drifted over the middle of the plate in that inning. If you don’t think that’ll get hit hard by the Tigers, Red Sox, Indians, etc, you’re in denial. If you think I made it up, watch Posada’s target, and where the pitch went.
Al Leiter just said he has some “erratic control,” although nothing to be concerned about, pretty much what I was referring to. Is Al Leiter a clown too?
Is Chamberlain normally this wild? (I know he’s not missing by a lot, but they are still balls.)
Jay-
really sorry to hear about your dad.
Jay –
So sorry to hear about your dad.
yankeeess wiiiinnnn!!!
Stottie and Zimmy are the reason for the 90′s dynasty. This fool just came along for the ride. Are you ready to defend his stellar record prior to the pinstripes?
Dear Jay Destro,
My condolences to you and your family. I am so sorry for your loss.
Thank you for the beautiful post. I think I speak for everyone when I say our thoughts are with you.
Percy
He pounds the bottom of the zone, which I must say I love:-)
I think we got our middle reliever. Nice job Yankees. Now win tomorrow and we get the 22-7 I wanted after the break. Pretty amazing actually. Can’t wait till to play the “good” teams and see how we match up.
Jay – My condolences to you and your family as well. Sounds like your dad was a really great guy!
Jay,
My condolences… Sorry about your loss..
All the best
2nd inning for Joba he got the slider down a bit more, which is good to see. Control faded a bit on the fastball in the 9th. Looking forward to seeing him over the next 6 weeks.
Hey Pete can you out if A-rod okay?
I know there’s nothing anyone can say to make it any easier, Jay, but my prayers are with you and your family. I’m sorry.
He clears his hips and drives with such power, his mechanics are so sound……
Not bad when your thrown into the fire – nerves is what you saw with his 2 Boo Boo’s but a line of (2k/2bb) is not a bad line.
Kim Jones with a nice…. ummm shirt
sorry for your loss Jay
great. Our guys got hit and Clemens will get suspended. where’s the justice?
Just listened to Suzyn’s interview with Joba after the game. Sounds like such a great kid – so composed and so grateful. Hope this is the beginning of something great.
Meanwhile in Chicago…I’m watching the White Sox make a one-run deficit look like a blowout. Man, they’re making Jake Westbrook look like Cy Young! Pathetic…
Lori,
To be Suzyn didn’t sound so composed…I thought she was going to hyperventilate, though she generally sounds like that.
Jay,
My Condolences. May your father rest in peace.
Some Socialist Said:
TKinDC – to think that ARod wouldnt take care of the guy if he just offered to give it to him for free is just stupid.
My point was that there is a market price for the ball, to settle for less doesn’t make sense at any level. Who deserves a discount? A-Rod? We are about to give him $30M a year!
what a total joke if they suspend Clemens…what about the 2 Blue Jays’ pitchers that threw at ( and one hit ) A-Rod’s legs in what was obvious payback for the HA indicent…TOTAL FRIGGN JOKE !@
Lori,
To bad Suzyn didn’t sound so composed…I thought she was going to hyperventilate, though she generally sounds like that.
Hey slippery Pete, what is your problem with Bruney? Like Brower and Karstens were better options. It’s a joke that they’re still on the major league team and Bruney is in AAA.
Joba looked impressive enough to me, I saw one pitch clocked at 99 mph. His father must be proud.
Kudos to Clemens for a well pitched game and for getting a little payback. I think we all knew it was coming.
Watching this game on Extra Innings you get a grasp on just how whiny and repetitive the Blue Jays announcers are, it grows rather mind numbing. The endless harping on the Arod incident and the cheap shot about Alex’s legs being sore after getting hit. Pathetic, just like Toronto.
Jay so sorry for your loss
Where is Fear Factor?
Does he/she have the latest line for Towers?
Kim is a cutie.
Why should Clemens be suspended? They were throwing at Alex the whole series. Joba to do a spot start? Probably not, but would be really interesting…
Just Toronto really need announcers? Lord knows they have no fans… They’re still the least popular franchise in MLB, aren’t they?
It’s ok, if they suspend Roger it would only be for like 3 games. He won’t even miss a start.
Frank Discussion…
The Feederz reference?
Jay Destro,
so so sorry Jay.
I meant, “Does Toronto really need announcers?”, of course! My bad…
Kim Jones must have been a little chilly…
thud….boom….thud….boom ( those are footsteps BoSux fans….the Yankees 5.5 games back..and soon to be only 5 games back after tonight ) the Yankees are coming for ya !
thanks guys.
If Roger gets suspended it would probably be for 5 games to at least cause him to have a start pushed back. Karstens would probably get the spot start or we could see Igawa again if it gets to September with appeals.
I’d love a spot start from Joba but doubt we’d see it.
Jay, sorry for your loss.
We could always bring back Kei Igawa to fill in while Roger is suspended…JUST KIDDING!!!
I’m sorry, but someone in the Yankee organization has to do something about Michael Kay.
He picked John McDonald for the play of the game? We win 9-2, Shelley Duncan makes one of the best slides I’ve seen to break up a play at 2b and he picks McDonald?
I know Kay’s a fraud and he’s gunning for a Fox Baseball/Espn baseball national gig which is why he’s being “impartial” and getting excited when the other team makes a play or hits a HR, but this has to stop. If George had his wits about him and heard Kay’s antics, Kay would be banned from the stadium.
Stop working on your reel Michael Kay. Fox and Espn already know who you are. You work for one of them on the radio.
Chicago Dave,
The sad thing is I could see Igawa getting a start or two in September if it came to that.
How about IPK making a start if roger gets suspended?
Joe L – According to that recent Conde Nast article, Steinbrenner no longer has his wits about him… so Kay’s job is probably safe for now!
Is there a Kim Jones fan club? If there isn’t, I’ll start one.
YankeeJosh – Do you mean if the Yanks are out of the race (which I don’t see happening) in September then they would bring up Igawa to start a few games? I honestly can’t see them bringing him back while they’re in the thick of the wild card race… At least, I hope not!
I am going to lodge a protest about Josh Towers’ game tonight.
5 9 5 5 4 1
must be inaccurate, as we all know that Josh is a Cy Young candidate
All I have to say is watching guys like Josh Towers should make us all feel a whole lot better about our starting five!!!
Win or lose this year these are exciting times to be a Yanks fan, reminder of the mid to late 90s. Wang, Cano, Cabrera, Hughes, Chamberlain and there’s more waiting in the system!!!!
No, I was thinking in terms of maybe a late season doubleheader. Hopefully it will be after they clinch. I just can’t help worrying that with the money invested in him he’ll somewhere get another chance.
If the Yanks don’t want to burn a bullpen arm, and Clemens appeals his suspension until after 9/1, I could see Yankees brass giving Igawa a start.
But I really hope not.
…and the angles tie the game
Time to put Ohlendorf in the bullpen, too!
AJAX continues his power surge in Tampa with a homer, Tabata hit one out as well giving him two dingers in his last three games. Maybe he is finally starting to develop some power.
AJAX continues his power surge in Tampa with a homer, Tabata hit one out as well giving him two dingers in his last three games. Maybe he is finally starting to develop some power.
Sorry for the double post, Action jackson gets me very excited.
YankeeJosh – Yes, let’s all hope that, no matter what the circumstance, Kei Igawa is banned from even setting foot in the Stadium for the rest of this season!
Does anyone know why Tallet was not ejected after hitting Cano with a pitch?
Chicago Dave,
I’d live with Igawa pitching the regular season finale after the Yankees have come back and passed the Red Sox and clinched the division. Short of that, I do not want to see him again this season either.
If Clemens got suspended, would Joba have a chance to spot start or due to innings maximums is he strictly in relief this year?
The Yanks should make the following bullpen moves
Brower down to Scranton after he clears waivers, Edwar up
Farns clears waivers and the Yanks trade him to anyone for a low level prospect and pay 5mil of the remaining 7mil on his contract…Britton up
If Karstens sucks…send him to Scranton and call up Ohlendorf.
Does anyone know why Tallet was not ejected after hitting Cano with a pitch?
I was wondering the same thing – I thought both teams were warned.
“This has to be Brower’s last game. I may be a tough grader but, its August, you are in a fight for the playoffs, and they don’t need another guy who can’t throw the ball over the plate with a 7 run lead.”
You are a tough grader. You cant manage teams like that, even in middle of a playoff race. Did you forget so soon what he yesterday?
It makes no sense to endlessly rotate guys in and out of the minors/majors. You need to give guys a chance to pitch to find gold. Brower has been terrific for scranton, and will be given a full and comprehensive look. He deserves it too. With Chambermaid here, he can take some of farnsworthless time.
It doesn’t help the yanks to react hysterically to one mediocre outing.
BJ
I wonder if Joe Torre will play Wilson Betemit and sit A-Rod with a “knee issue” tomorrow to quiet some of the fury between the two sides.
Anyone?
“Brower down to Scranton after he clears waivers, Edwar up
Farns clears waivers and the Yanks trade him to anyone for a low level prospect and pay 5mil of the remaining 7mil on his contract…Britton up
If Karstens sucks…send him to Scranton and call up Ohlendorf.”
The hysterics perpetuated on this board are becoming a bit much. Again, upgrading our bullpen is important, but frantically shifting guys up and down based on one mediocre inning borders on fringe reaction.
Brower will be here for a full and comprehensive look barring some kind of unforeseen meltdown.
BJ
BryanK – Regardless of what happens to Clemens, the Yanks need Joba too badly in the pen to let him start a game. After all, if he starts they’ll lose him for 4-5 days. So, I don’t think they’d let him spot start…
Joba is going to be really, really good.
Did anyone else notice he throws his curve faster than Mussina’s fastball lol
BJ,
IMO Brower looked mediocre yesterday too. He was lucky the line drive was hit right at A-Rod or he would have been in a lot of trouble. It seems like everyone was hitting the ball hard today. I would rather see Britton or Edwar but I would suspect that Brower isn’t going anywhere. The Yanks probably don’t want to send him down because there is the possiblility that he could be claimed by another team.
Another brilliant episode by ESPN’s Bronx is Burning. About the only thing they do right
Subway Heroes – Actually, I think that’s a great idea! Joe should sit A-Rod and play Betemit tomorrow, absolutely.
Well he missed badly with a few fastballs. I’m as excited as everyone else but will be interesting next time out. If Wells is going well he hits a 3 run homer on that pitch. He has had an off year.
Matthew – And Vernon just signed that huge contract in the offseason…Figures, doesn’t it?!
BJ,
Don’t know how you can argue with the logic of trading Farns(which I’m sure is exactly what Cash is trying to do) or sending down Karstens if he continues to struggle. The Yanks gotta ride the hot hand here and it could be that Ohlendorf/Ramirez/Britton is a better combination than Brower/Farns/Karstens.
dontfirecash – I doubt the Yanks could sneak Farnsworth through waivers.
Chicago Dave,
Nobody in their right mind would claim Farns. He is owed 7mil for this season and next…he would have no trouble getting through waivers IMO
Dontfire,
I’m all for moving Fworth, he has failed miserably for years. My objection is moving guys who have been here for a day based on one mediocre inning, and one good one. That reaction is extreme.
Baseball is a game of equanimity and poise, not hysterical reaction to one bad outing. Brower has been terrific this year, and I want to see some more of him before giving up on someone who might prove effective in favor of yet another virgin arm.
BJ
Sure they can, Dave.
In fact, I have little doubt they will get him through waivers.
His contract is too high and nobody will likely claim him.
Hey, Boston was able to sneak Manny Ramirez through waivers a couple of years ago so anything is possible.
Saw Duncan’s slide on SportsCenter.
Great stuff.
BJ,
Point taken..Anyways its probably a moot point as I doubt the Yanks called up Brower only to expose him to waivers a few days later.
I dont understand why Towers wasnt thrown out of the game for hitting Arod??!!! It was quite obvious that they threw at him yesterday and the Yanks let it go and then he did it again today. The commissioners office told them not to start anything otherwise there would be suspensions. But the umpire doesnt do anything? It made absolutely no sense that they are allowed to do it twice, especially 2 barely major league pitchers. I am glad Clemens hit Rios it had to be done, I just wish he waited until there was 2 outs. I guess when you are a .500 team every year that was the only thing for them to look forward to.
I should add that I agree guys like KRAM should be up here too, but I don’t want to see him moved out after one bad outing again. He deserves a fair and balanced tryout, and it does little to a pitcher’s confidence to ship him after one sketchy inning.
Chambermaid was impressive tonight, but he also got into a little bit of hot water. Should we send him down too? These guys have all been terrific in the minors this year, and if we are going to reinvent the pen with the best of scranton, we need to give them more than a game or two tryout. We have suffered insufferably with FWorth for years, why cant Brower get another day or two?
BJ
dontfire and Viper – Oh yes, I forgot about that ridiculous salary the Yanks are wasting on him…My bad! You’re right…Who in their right mind would pay that much for a buster like Farnsy? Of course, that then begs the question…Who would trade for him with that salary he carries? When the Yanks turned down Atlanta’s offer at the deadline, I think they showed they’re not keen on paying too much of his salary in any deal.
BJ,
The difference is that Brower is over 30, and has had chances in the Majors with no success. I’m no expert but he doesn’t exactly seem to have any great pitches. I am still more intrigued by Edwar who got only 3 appearances and has a great change.
Brower has had two bad outings now. True he got out of the 6th yesterday but he failed in the 7th and forced Joe to use Vizcaino for two innings. That is not good for a reliever.
Chicago Dave,
I think the Yanks turned down Atlanta’s offer because they would have had to pay Farns’s full salary AND pay Bob Wickman. If the Yanks offer to pay somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 to 5 million of the remaining 7mil on Kyle’s contract, a deal should happen.
What’s up Yankee, nite owls!!
WOOOOO HOOO, AIN’T WE A BUNCH OF SEXY DEVILS!!!!
*aNGELS just took the lead !!!*
fear the Ghosts of Yankee Past, Yankee Present, Yankee Future!!
My feeling is that Brower is on a pretty short leash. If he doesn’t improve in his next few outings, I think he’s on the bus back to SWB. Still, he does deserve a few more opportunities to show his stuff before they get rid of him…
Great slide by Duncan, Giambi looked fit, Melky continues to rake, Joba’s slider was untouchable, his fast ball reached 99 on the YES gun, Jeter broke out of his slump, Rocket rebounded with authority, Posada snapped out of it…
Did I miss anything? Awesome game.
dontfire – That’s still a pretty chunk of change to pay to get rid of Farnsworth, although I think the Yanks are getting to the point where they would certainly consider doing it if they could get a warm body in return!
Brower must clear waivers in order to go back to SWB..I would guess the Yankees do not want to expose Brower to waivers because numerous teams are desperate for bullpen help…Therefore, I would guess he sticks around, at least for a little whle.
I know everyone here hates ESPN…but Sportscenter (on right now) is going to be doing a little piece on the day Thurman Munson died (not sure when, but it’s coming up!). Just in case anyone wants to tune in and see it!
Chicago Dave-
_My feeling is that Brower is on a pretty short leash_
Kinky!
Jay Destro,
Sorry for your loss and my best wishes to you and your family.
Yes, it is a “Feederz” reference, I always thought his name was comical.
JOBA THE HUTT – THESE ARENT THE DRIODS YOUR LOOKING FOR
Dr. Acula – Oh, you’re such a kinky devil yourself, aren’t you?! Naughty boy…Get your mind out of the gutter!
“The difference is that Brower is over 30, and has had chances in the Majors with no success. I’m no expert but he doesn’t exactly seem to have any great pitches. I am still more intrigued by Edwar who got only 3 appearances and has a great change.”
I would rather have seen Edwar too, but remember he is a failed major leaguer too. He reinvented himself with a sick sick pitch. I don’t think he got a fair shot the first time.
I haven’t scouted Brower extensively, but from what I am reading, they are saying he has reinvented himself on the mound. If true, it would be unfair to judge him purely based on past failure, and completely negating what he has done over the season in Scranton.
I realize the minors are just that. But they have to count for something, otherwise guys would never get promoted. Give Brower a couple of more outings, and if he fails after a fair and complete tryout, move on.
BJ
If Clemens gets suspended, they will start either Karstens or Igawa (yikes).
Can Ramiro Mendoza still pitch? HA!
Dave-
Can’t help it. Kim Jones gets me worked up – YEAH BABY!
The Munson thing is on now…
BJ,
I now agree with you 100% and retract my statements regarding getting rid of Brower. As I’ve stated numerous times tonight it makes no sense to expose a guy you just called up to waivers. He makes very little money and would almost certainly be claimed(tampa bay anyone?). Therefore, until we see him a few more times he should remain with the team.
Is anyone else as sick of Matt Stairs as I am ? He looks like he should be working at a gas station on the NJ Turnpike. Sit down and shut up, and watch your team lose yet again. Your juvenile posturing and schoolyard antics don’t appear the least bit threatening.
Toronto’s version of Nelson Muntz…
If Rocket gets suspended I say we go medieval on the commissioner’s office.
Tower should have been immediately ejected. And if not after the cheap shot, certainly after he talking Shite to ARod.
Alex, we LOVE you!
If Rocket gets suspended I say we go medieval on the commissioner’s office.
Tower should have been immediately ejected. And if not after the cheap shot, certainly after he talking outta his rear to ARod.
Alex, we LOVE you!
BJ,
I hear what you’re saying. I just don’t see room on the staff for both Brower and Edwar. Mo and Vizcaino are obviously here. Villone is your lefty. We’re stuck with Farnsworth. Joba is obviously here for the long haul. Karstens is needed as a long man. That leaves one spot open, and based on what I’ve seen, that spot should go to Edwar, not Brower.
Frank -
I agree on Matt Stairs…the guys a jerk. Seems like a frustrated bully. Good thing ole Shelly Duncan made a B-line for him to keep him under control…
Matt Stairs has ‘roid issues.
‘roids and speed are notorious for triggering pre-mature aging.
so were they throwing at arod to get revenge for the “HAH!” from earlier this year?
HA-HA !! (pointing finger at Toronto)
… and the angles take the lead…
…again
I love Raaja. Bowa rocks, too.
HaHa. Angels broadcaster said, “I’ve been hit by a Wakefield pitch. Feels like a mosquitoe bite.”
Wakefield: another veteran pitcher who doesn’t know how to pitch with a lead. Chased in the 5th, no outs.
If Rocket gets suspended, it won’t do have much affect because he’ll just have 5 days between starts instead of 4 days.
Here’s what will happen:
Rocket will receive his 5-games from the commissioner’s office
Rocket will then appeal
Rocket will then start another game
Rocket will withdraw appeal after start and serve his 5 games
He’s not going to miss a start – he’ll just have his start pushed back a day.
If there is an off-day squeezed in there somewhere, the rotation won’t skip a beat and there will be no need for a spot start by Karstens or Igawa.
uh if they have an off day, it doesnt count as a suspended game… good try though
chicago dave-
thing on Munson’s last day was very good. on a side note: Erik Jenson’s performance as Munson on Bronx is Burning is strong. 2nd best after Turturro, despite the ears.
Bonds has done it. Start the countdown on the last day of Asterisk Man’s reign until A-Rod does it!
Is this a mandatory 5 game suspension or is it up to Watson how many games…….Special circumstances may prevail on his sentence…
Tavarez in for the Red Scum. Doubles in first pitch. Can we say 5 back?
Joe L, re Michael Kay, I noticed what you said and you could be right on all points–it does help your reel if you downplay Yankee positives. However, if you’re right, we’re in even worse trouble than I thought. I’ve looked into the YES Network quite a bit, documented quite a bit, and long ago found it impossible to watch, in fact an outrage. YES Network likes to point out certain benefits of other teams, so they’re quite capable of being the catalyst for Kay’s remarks. I hope you’ll write letters to anyone and everyone as I have.
Either Tavarez is really really bad or the Angel hitters are that good. Probably both.