Game 127: Yankees at Angels
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Blogroll, Podcast on Aug 22, 2007 
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Here is the lineup:
YANKEES
No. 18 Johnny David Damon LF
No. 2 Derek Sanderson Jeter SS
No. 53 Bob Kelly Abreu RF
No. 13 Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez 3B
No. 55 Hideki Matsui DH
No. 20 Jorge Rafael Posada C
No. 24 Robinson Jose Cano 2B
No. 14 Wilson Betemit 1B
No. 28 Melky Cabrera CF
No. 46 Andrew Eugene Pettitte LHP (10-7, 3.80)
Pregame chatter: The Yankees are facing RHP John Lackey (15-7, 3.32). He allowed seven runs on 11 hits in four innings against the Red Sox on Friday. … The Yankees have dropped 9 of their last 12 games here at Angel Stadium.
Word is that Gary Sheffield’s shoulder is bothering him again and he could miss the series this weekend.
UPDATE, 10:36 p.m.: Gary Sheffield said today he would not play in the Yankees-Tigers series. He felt something pop in his shoulder while lifting weights on Tuesday.
UPDATE, 10:39 p.m.: Joe Torre met with Mike Mussina today for seven minutes. Mussina will start against the Tigers on Monday. But there seem to be no guarantees beyond that.”
“We’ll see Monday,â€? Torre said. “We chatted. His arm feels so good and that’s what frustrating for him. We need for him to do more than he did (Tuesday) night. It’s a letdown for him and for us.”
Torre was asked what would happen if Mussina pitched poorly again.
“We’re going to talk,â€? he said. “No question.â€?
Said Mussina: “I have to get it turned around. Going into September I can’t be throwing the ball like this. (Monday) is important but I think every start is important. I understand that at this time of the year in the situation we’re in that every game is important. Obviously I need to contribute more.�
UPDATE, 11:02 p.m.: Here is Joe Torre’s pre-game press conference:
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UPDATE, 11:10 p.m.: Vladimir Guerrero is the scariest hitter I have ever seen. I was covering the Class AA Norwich Navigators (a Yankees team then) in 1996 when he was playing for Harrisburg in the Montreal chain. One night, a pitcher bounced a curveball and Guerrero hit it off the hop so hard that it bounced over the right-field fence for a ground-rule double.
I could barely believe my eyes and asked catcher Mike Figga after the game if that’s what happened.
“(Bleep) yes,” he said. “Can you believe that?”
The Yankees that season ordered the fences at the stadium moved in because not enough of their players were hitting homers. But Guerero hit a few out every series it seemed.
I remember going over to ask him about it once. He laughed when I told him the fences were getting moved in. “No problem for me,” he said.
(Bleep) yes.
UPDATE, 11:21 p.m.: The Red Sox are 14-12 in games started by Daisuke Matsuzaka. The Yankees are 7-5 in games when Kei Igawa pitched. I’m just saying.
UPDATE, 12:19 p.m.: Tremendous job by Andy Pettitte on a night they really needed it. Joba Chamberlain is warming up now. Pettitte’s line: 7 5 1 1 2 6. If he wins, he would be 5-0 in his last five starts with a 2.06 ERA.
UPDATE, 12:27 p.m.: Damn, are they going to have to pay Jorge Posada a lot of money. 3 for 3 tonight with a walk and two RBI. That’s 75 RBI for a catcher.
UPDATE, 12:49 p.m.: Good for you, those who stayed up late to see that. Man, that was cool.
The sequence to Vlad Guerrero:
88 slider
100 fastball
86 slider that just vanished.
Hi Pete -
Novel way to do the lineup – let’s hope it turns the tide.
Nice to see Wilson starting at first tonight. Lets go Andy!
Pretty crazy lineups by Pete the last few days. Is that what Torre wrote on the lineup card today?
Jackson just got out of a bases loaded jam with NO OUTS and only gave up 1 run….go get ‘em Tampa !
Hey Pete, way to make up for last night’s debacle, jk.
No middle for Matsui and Wilson?
Damon and Posada hit Lackey well. Last year we got killed in a series at Anaheim. The Yankees blew the Angels out in the finale.
Pedroia must’ve got plunked hard, he’s being replaced at 2nd. Boston had the bases loaded no outs, and only scored 1 on a sac fly. Boston loves J.D. Drew!
I guess the RedSox are glad that one of Boras Clients had an opt out and left the dodgers for Bean Town. What a gas.
Nice writen the lineup, that’s pretty cool.
check out the Texas score!!
Wasn’t Derek Sanderson a hockey player for the Boston Bruins?
Great. Lackey has his one bad outing last week– agaainst the bosox.
If I remember correctly the Yankees usually play well after they get their asses handed to them.
Way to go Minnesota!
really making sure you get it right this time huh pete? Maybe this will turn the tides though.. Go Pete!!! Go Yanks!!
Two TDs and 4 FGs beating a kicker.
Wow, and I thought we had it bad last night.
Peter – hysterical. Nice follow-up to yesterday’s lineup.
Although, could have used date of birth for everyone
Doesn’t Melky have a full name? Like Melketh Pierpont Cabrera IV?
You guys have to check out the Texas gameday. It’s brutal. 2 men on, 1 out. 27-3. Salty 4 for 5 with 7 rbi’s. Gabbard in line for the win.
I seriously thought Melky’s whole name was Melchizedek.
I am sure the Tigers can take solace in that they only have 2 addtl yrs on the contract for that injury prone 38 yr old DH that you all wanted back about 5 weeks ago..
Hey it is only $30 mill or more, no big deal…
that is right the yanks got 2 good prospects and 1 OK pitching prospect, and they have not helped yet so it is a terrible trade….
Score is now 30 -3 with 2 outs in the 8th
Wow – Baltimore was actually winning this game at one point.
call the game it is a joke…
30-3!!!
Birth dates?
Bah! Give me thumbnails and animated graphics!
/joking
now its 30-3 and they’ve still got another game to play because they are playing a Double Header
It is getting pretty pathetic now. I guess our game wasn’t too bad. LOL
Okay, who thinks the Orioles can score 27 runs in the bottom of the 9th???????????
stuart,
what are you talking about? it’s never over until the last out. a 27 run deficit is nothing.
And the Rangers took 3 walks in the top of the ninth. I guess we can blame that on Questec since the umps don’t want to get dinged for moving the game along.
But wouldn’t it be sporting to swing the bats at anything close?
Makes our bullpen perfromance last night look great.
I feel really bad for Shuey right now…
Here’s to a trooper.
Most runs since 1900. WOW!
It’s funny that Bobby Abreu’s real name is just Bob. I figured Roberto or Robert or Robinson or something.
The funny thing is Littleton is in line for the 3 inning save.
What is the highest scoring game? also with the largest difference in the score?
I like how Bobby Abreu’s formal name is Bob and Johnny’s is Johnny.
WAIT – BRIAN ROBERTS JUST RETURNED A PUNT FOR A TD. 30-10
Ladies and gentlemen, it is over – and gratefully so.
30-3 Texas.
Speaking of runs (ours of course). Our run differential is +150. Seattle’s is +21. We can do it!
He’s in line for the save? LOL
Robby Joe Cano. That’s a true star name.
Now, if the Yanks can get busy tonight, and do half as well as Texas, we should at least make a game of it.
Props to Torre for playing Betermit. He should play 1B against all RH pitching, but why is a waste of protoplasm like Villone still on the roster?
I gotta hunch he went to Wikipedia to look up some of those middle names LMAO!
If the Texas Rangers would be so kind as to Air Mail Express 15 runs c/o The New York Yankees, they will be gladly accepted. As long as they get to Anaheim on time all is well.
Congratulations to Dave Trembly on officially becoming the Orioles manager.
didn’t we already have a Bob Kelly on the Yanks… like Roberto… maybe we’ll trade Abreu for O’neill.. lol
why can’t we score 30 f’ing runs against baltimore…
A nice present the Rangers gave him.
According to Retrosheet, this would blow the old record of 26 runs away. Achieved 6 times, last by the Royals! in 2004. By defintiion, then a 27 run differential is also a record. The highest I could find was a 26-3 game for a 23 point spread.
One of the games in 1911 was 26-23.
How the hell is Melky Cabrera’s real name Melky?
Sorry, that was 1922 Phillies against Cubs.
Paul Shuey has a lot of experience. The Yankees should think about picking him up for next season.
Look for Igawa to return.
Thanks for finding that Mike.
Was that Royals game against us? I recall losing big to them a few years ago.
To replace who Bob?
Andrew Eugene. Mussina came in to pitch for the o’s, hence the high score
The Chicago Colts set the record for most runs in a game on June 29, 1897 when they scored 36 against the Louisville Colonels.
Since 1900, two teams hold the record. The Boston Red Sox scored 29 against the St. Louis Browns on June 8, 1950. [The Browns scored 4 runs.] The Chicago White Sox tied the record five years later when they defeated the Kansas City Athletics 29-6 on April 23, 1955.
Jennifer-
I had to look to as I remembered an embarassing beatdown from them. But is was against the Tigers.
The Yankees record is 22 runs scored.
The Franchise record for runs allowed is also 22, in a 2004 22-0 beatdown by the Indians. Somehow I had put that one out of my memory bank. Stellar start from Vasquez and relief work from Tanyon, Nitkowski (another failed attempt to find a LOOGY since LLoyd), and the banished Loaiza. Pasted below.
New York Yankees IP H R ER BB SO HR
Vazquez L(13-8) 1.1 5 6 6 2 1 0
Sturtze 3 6 7 7 2 1 1
Nitkowski 1.2 3 3 3 3 1 0
Loaiza 3 8 6 6 2 3 2
Totals 9 22 22 22 9 6 3
Verlander 4 innings. he and bonderman are not getting it done…
Funny someone already updated this site
http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question3442.html
Oh god, nitkowski. I remember him. And loazia our other favorite. I think once he shaved his goatee off he turned to crap.
I think Retrosheet only goes back to 1911. Not sure if that is an official cut-off for something other than reliability of Boxscores. Not sure how it could miss the 29 runs in 1950. What is your source of those data Bobcat?
FYI: Doug Mientkiewicz is playing first base tonight for Tampa (A). So far, he is 1-2 with a run scored.
I believe its his first game since he was injured.
According to another message board i’m on Buster Onley saying the Yankees are meeting to discuss the Mussina situation.
Nevermind, I just went back and looked. They only have boxscores for every game since 1957, plus select seasons earlier. And there list was based on that so I made a posted in error. I guess Jayson Stark’s job of annoyning people with Cliff Clavenesque factoids is safe.
Jennifer is rocking two message boards two hours before the game. You are hardcore girl!
No, Minky has played at least one other game for Tampa, perhaps two. Know I saw him in another box score. He was removed for a pinch runner tonight in the 4th. Don’t know what that means.
Stay in Tampa forever, Mientkiewicz!
I’m winding down from a long day at work. I was on vacation for one week, and i’m still trying to catch up on my work.
If Mussina goes, can Kennedy be far behind?
Kennedy is near his innings cap. Could be a Sept call up? but only to be around club? My guess, didn’t hear this.
Any word on a bp roster change?
I know how Robinson got his name….I wonder if there are any other interesting stories on the team
Jeter was named after Derek Sanderson.
Someone’s gotta give the story that Michael Kay tells whenever Jeter faces Derek Lowe. Derek Lowe has the name ‘Derek’ because his parents liked Derek Sanderson. Then we have the Yankee captain, Derek Sanderson Jeter – with no association to the hockey player whatsoever.
Andrew EUGENE Pettitte? Ouch. At least we know what to call him now if he ever signs with Boston…
Man all my buddies in Dallas are freakin out over the Rangers score. I’ve been getting text after text. Lol!
2-1 Tampa
Let’s go D-Rays!
TB 2 BOS 1 – Upton just hit a 2-run HR!
TB 2, BOS 1
Dice-K just gave up a 2 run shot.
I hope the Rangers saved some of those runs for the Mariners tomorrow.
Homerun BJ UPTON!
D-rays up 2-1!
Hmm…some places say Jeter was named after the hockey player….does this mean michael kay could be wrong???
Michael Kay is never wrong, he`s a legend
According to Jeter’s book he wrote I think he did say he said he was named after the Hockey player because it was his parent’s favorite player. And this was in an interview with Michael Kay.
Ha – love the lineup
I guess Michael Kay has a bad memory of an interview he gave years back with Jeter.
ABOUT DAMN TIME BETEMIT GETS 1B OVER MR.INTANGILBLES !!!!
This was back in 2000 on the radio
With that bullpen of their’s, Tampa could use a few more runs. I wonder if Tito’s going to pull Dice-K from the 7th.
Michael Kay wrote Jeter’s book for him and is actually his father.
so abreu’s named after roberto? interesting. Emmanuelle? HAHAHHA
Wonder if Tampa can hold this slim lead.
How the mighty are falling. Youkilis batted .402 in May and has been terrible since, hitting .219 in July and August.
the likelihood of tampa holding that lead is about as likely as us scoring 30 runs tonight
texas now on 33 runs scored today. what time did game 1 start anyway?
Wow…that was a double header today?!! that’s brutality… I thought it was a typo when I saw 26-3…that was incredible.
I like the lineup today – I have a good feeling even though it’s Lackey.
What are the chances of Tampa holding this lead…
the first game started at 3:21 eastern
what’s wrong w/ Emmanuelle he’s 1/2 Dominican
Latinos Stand up !!!!
Re: Chances of Andy Pettitte going to the Red Sox: In 2003 as a free agent, Pettitte was offered $52 million over 4 years by the Red Sox and turned it down. From the NY Times, by Jack Curry, 2/25/07.
LMAO I’m a little slow on the uptake today…I was skimming the post and I saw the score 30-3 and I thought some pre-season football game was going on…I didn’t realize the Texas Rangers scored that HOLY COW BATMAN!!!
thanks nate. miserable day to be an o…
raise your hand if you think the final score of the sox-rays game is going to be 2-1. anyone? buhler?
What’s the story with the Yankees meeting about Mussina?
hey Mike NYY – Are you Michael Kay?
Timlin’s in…his arm is deader than Scott Proctor’s.
hey Mike NYY – Are you Michael Kay?
I`m insulted by that
Wow, if you’re the Sox, you’re running out of good options in the seventh.
wait a minute Texas and Baltimore playing a double header ?
WHy is Timlin in? They still have a shot at winning with the Devil Rays bullpen
I`ll take it though
Haha when did Mike Timlin become a giveaway? He still gets the job done 85% of the time…
John Lackey vs. The New York Yankees on July 7:
IP H R ER HR BB K
8. 5 1 1 00 00 11
The story is that Abreu’s middle name comes from Pat Kelly, who played with Bobby’s (sorry… Bob’s) father in winter ball in Venezuela. He also has two brothers named Nelson and Nielsen. And thus ends all the fun Abreu naming facts that I know.
I haven’t heard anything other than what I read on another message board.
Pete any word?
Mike NYY — Sorry to insult you, but not sure there’s anyone who would think that M Kay is always right — except Mr. big head himself.
Yeah, was just reading about that Rangers game. Don’t feel as badly from last night
Jennifer, can you elaborate on the “mussina situation?”
thanks!
100% total BS call to snake Boston out of a bases loaded jam…strike 3 called was both High AND outside….Ump is getting fitted for a Boston uniform ‘tween innings…
Mike NYY—Sorry to insult you, but not sure there’s anyone who would think that M Kay is always right—except Mr. big head himself.
Are you serious? Everybody loves him and he`s the most modest person ever!!!!! He`s a wonderful announcer and not biased at all!!!!!
Pete- whats your middle name. mine is corey, which sux.
Just quoting what I read. I would assume it is referring to his horrible starts.
Youkilis, Ortiz, Manny in the top of the 9th — christ…
Tampa still leads after 8.5 innings.
Count our lucky stars if they can make it stick. We still have to dodge one more bp bullet; their closer is Al Reyes who isn’t exactly lights-out.
okay, Mike NYY, i get it. sarcasm. hard to notice on the screen. i shouldlook at the little faces.
While we’re on announcers, I will say that listening to O’Neil this year has been a treat. Anyone agree?
-whale sighting!- Gagne in.
While we’re on announcers, I will say that listening to O’Neil this year has been a treat. Anyone agree?
Yeah, he`s great
Gagne is beginning to be lights out again.
“Youkilis, Ortiz, Manny in the top of the 9th—christ…”,,,,,,Huh?
what pete no DoB’s
WHAT TIME IS IT?!!!
He gave up 2 hits in one inning his last time out.
“Melketh Pierpont Cabrera IV”
That gave me a much needed good laugh!
GAME TIME
Well ALmost
I have the met game on and they have to have someone telling them to chant lets go mets. I find it funny, since we don’t need that at the stadium.
from the NY Times Bats blog
Mussina on Shaky Ground?
By Lee Jenkins
Tags: Mike Mussina, Yankees
After meeting with starting pitcher Mike Mussina on Wednesday, Yankees manager Joe Torre suggested that he needs better performances from Mussina to keep him in the starting rotation.
Mussina has given up a combined 13 runs in his past two outings, and Tuesday night in Anaheim, he lasted only one and two-thirds innings. Mussina called it one of the five worst starts of his career.
Asked about Mussina’s status in the rotation, Torre said: “We’re going to talk. After his next start we’re going to talk. The ability to pitch and pitch well is there somewhere. We just need to get it out.�
Torre is hoping that Mussina regains his form and solidifies his spot. But he also knows that the Yankees cannot continue to have a starting pitcher give up six earned runs.
“Mike is certainly aware of more than just himself here,� Torre said. “He knows the game he started yesterday — that we need more than that.�
——
Yank fan in Austin–agree about O’Neill. It’s often the best part of the broadcast.
Damn I have no idea why I was watching the met game as opposed to the yankee pregame. I didn’t realize how late it was already.
Gagne shuts them down.
Next, Yuckilis walks; Ortiz / Lowell homers.
mike nyy. that is EXACTLY what time it is! HEY BATS WAKE UP LETS DO THIS, GIVE ANDY GEICO!
Good news pat
Marc-
that’s who is up for Boston in the top of the 9th…except its Lowell not Manny, my mistake — not that its any better
. = troll
1 out
jennifer: I’ve been to Shea a couple times this year. They have someone telling them to chant everything. They can’t do anything for themselves. I mean, the bleacher creatures definitely give us some friendly advise, but Shea is totally different…;
okay. Plan B: Ortiz homers; Lowell homers.
I don’t get it, why do they need to be told to cheer? We know when to get going!
Same way it started last night: leadoff man on.
THAT WAS STRIKE THREE! ortix lucks out
mike nyy. that is EXACTLY what time it is! HEY BATS WAKE UP LETS DO THIS, GIVE ANDY GEICO!
Speaking of geico, check out cavemanscrib.com
Sure looked that way on gameday.
Jeter is hitting into alot of dp.
Jeter.
Stop it.
Same way it started last night: Jeter hits into DP.
damn jeter…would ya stop doing that already??
I believe that the Mariners are about to go on a HUGE slide.
I was just surprised to see that HH. I’d hate to see Manny be the spoiler in this.
GO Tampa Bay
Well theres number 20 on the season for Jeter
God, how many GIDP’s for Jeter?
Can you imagine of A-Rod hit into this many DPs? NY would have his neck? But the Captain has a by. You’re lucky, Jeter. Lucky, lucky man.
Jeter hits alot of GBs up the middle just out of habit. Other teams and their defenders have figured this out and shade their defenses that way. With a runner on first, the fact that they shade for a DP only accentuates Jeter’s vulnerability…just a bad combination.
jeter needs to stop with the dps
“Liberty Belle
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:47 pm
The story is that Abreu’s middle name comes from Pat Kelly”
Wow, that is a name I haven’t heard in Yankee archives for quite some time. It may not be the same Kelly, but remember that 2B back in the 90′s. Not a bad ballplayer back then.
mike – 20, ties a career high
2 outs! GO REYES!
Jeter kills another rally ? 20 GIDP this year ? this needs to stop !
I don’t like this ump already. That looked like a strike
history was just made in the 1st inning Jetes hit into his career high 20th DP
Ugh 2 on 2 out.
Argh, Reyes!
3 outs!!!
Haha I wouldnt say Derek killed a rally there Don… That was a solid ball hit up the middle, they had it played perfect as usual…someone made a good point before about that.
It’s never easy with Reyes:
Runners 1st and 2nd, 2 outs.
the GIDPs happen, but jeter didn’t even run hard down the line. what is that all about?
We won
The new club fine imposed on pitchers by Cashman (effective today):
1 walk, HBB = 6% pay reduction;
1 hit(single to triple) = 3% pay reduction;
1 HR = 1% pay reduction.
Sux lose.
and goddamnit, my Gameday is so innacurate — what is happening?
How many god damn times do I have to see a Yankee swing at an obvious ball in an attempt to execute a hit-and-run, miss the pitch, and then hit into a double play.
Joe, the Yankees are NOT the Angels. If you play hit-and-run, your batters do NOT work the count and compromise their primary strength.
If you have to run, run, encourage your runners to steal. Stop distracting the damn batters.
Rays Win!!!!!!!!
Boston loses….sweet !
This ump is not calling the outside pitch. Already 2 pitches i think he missed.
Good news the soxs lost!!
Yes! O.k. guys do your thing!
red sox got a break delmon young trapped it. mike lowell didnt run to first but the ump called it a catch. if young had thrown to second then first tampa would have been out of the inning. they got out anyway but still
1-2-3 Andy !
Sox lose
What is the bigger shock..Orioles giving up 30 runs or the Devil Rays winning??
1st inning over, A-rod coming to bat top of the 2nd
That Vladdy shot gave me a scare for a minute. Sure sounded good off the bat.
Alright i’m out. Have a good night everyone!! GOOOOO YANKEESSS!!!
Yeah I`m out to
I think Jeter is hurt or something . He doesnt seem right .
And whats with this hit and run . Hitters are chasing balls.
Doesnt it always seem like Jeter hits into DPs with no outs in the first?
Carlos Guillen’s team loses! yeahhhh
Whats with the hit and run? Maybe trying to stay out of Jeters double plays? He leads the league
bye jen see ya mike
What, did the Orioles mail it in when they heard they go Trembley his job for 08?
Good AB by Matsui…man on.
matsui works the count then produces. WHAT A WEAPON
have to get this run in…
Just goes to show you what happens with GBs, sometimes they go through, sometimes they don’t…Posada singles, Yankees set-up.
Great AB for Matsui. We have to make Lackey work to get him out of the game early.
cano please swing at good pitches…
THATS IT! jorge seems to be coming out of that mini slump
stuart: have you not been watching him the past few months?
#$%TR
It would be nice to return the favor to the Halos and knock their starter around, but I’ll be satisfied with ….Never mind…That sucked.
OH! that was a good hit too. Nothing Cano can do about that.
dps are killing us
exactly andrea that was solid… just bad luck on the placement
Nothing Jeter and Cano can do guys; they can’t change their approaches (which are proven to work). That’s just how the cookie crumbles.
I am so Flippin’ sick of this crap….can we just fly out of LA right now and save ourselves the frustration….that Fat Bast*rd Lackey is so flippin’ lucky….both Jeter’s and Cano’s batted balls are just one foot more to the right and a totally diff. story….DAMN !
The Yankees are looking pretty good tonight though. Andy Pettitte’s looking really good. Yesterday was a bad day. Yesterday was their day off (except A-Rod. Good lord!) Today’s the day!
The double plays are piling up. Been piling up for the last week-10 days. Cano and Jeter have done nothing but hit into DP’s this entire series.
Jeter needs to get back to bunting guys over for awhile. He’s hitting into too many DP’s, especially early in games.
20 DP’s is way too much for a #2 hitter.
Cano? He just needs to get out of Anaheim. Been a brutal, brutal series for him.
Hopefully, the change in venue will help him in the next series.
They continue to be unable to get Anderson out. Its amazing. The guy hits against nobody anymore except for one team…..the Yankees.
I DON’T WANT TO GO TO BED EARLY TONIGHT…
At least Jeter can turn the DP though!
DP for us: hard hit but again, that’s how the cookie crumbles.
Nice dp by Cano and Jeter!
Good to see the DP go our way!
17 pitches through 2 for Pettite, looking good so far, but we need to give him runs to work with.
com’on Betemit do what you do vs righties …Why does it have to be Lackey
I LIKE BETIMET I PREDICT BIG THINGS THIS INNING
6 up, 6 down…now let’s do some damage dammit !
DP giveth and DP taketh away. Looks like it’s gonna be one of those nights.
Sox dump, Seattle finally loses, lets go Yanks. So far, so good with Andy.
And looking at that awesome commercial, the answer is “yes” I did buy a lottery ticket (HEY, I can DREAM, can’t I?)
U-dog: I HEAR YOU. IM NOT GOING TO BED AT ELEVEN AGAIN
I see the number 3 in our future…
WILLLLLLLLLLSOOOOOOOOONN
that makes me feel like tom hanks
Unlike some guys, I don’t root for Betemit by dumping on Phillips.
Lackey gets 2 quick outs and we’re really limiting his pitch count: Double for Damon!
Let’s go Jeter!
of course damon is doing well now that i dropped him
they’ll get him the 2nd time around
melky’s bunt was foul..
the angel announcers are friggin morons..
cano has been sleep walking and killing the team.
at least jeter cannot hit into a double play…
atleast jeter cant ground into a dp
This game could be over by midnight. Hopefully in our favor.
Good drive, bad result. Low pitch count for both pitchers thus far.
Who breaks first?
cap’n clutch, huh ?….this is getting old !
Betemit seems to look at considerable number of obvious 3rd strikes. What the hell was he looking for?
35 pitches in three innings is not gonna cut it. At this pace Lackey could throw 10 innings.
i have to listen to the angels announcers too they are morons and that was foul. but in no way is cano killing the team
Lackey doesn’t look that sharp tonight. The Yankees better get to him and quick.
jeter needs to rest up or something so he can get back to normal
Andy is dealin’ tonight.
The LHB will get Lackey in this game either in the 2nd look or 3rd
GIVE ME YOUR BEST DOG BARK TO SUPPORT THE YANKS…
woof?
Pesky catcher walked…deserved walk at that: ran up Andy’s pitch count with an 8 pitch AB
YEH ANDY !!!!…………..PETTITTE
That’s classic Andy: He’ll risk putting men on base if it means he can make his best pitch, especially if there’s a base open. K.
Did anyone see the Boras interview earlier tonight on the Angels pregame show? He claimed there are 10-12 teams who could afford Arod. I feel sleezy just for having listened to it.
after powerball tonight i could aford arod for 8 years
Gameday has the umps giving Lackey outside pitches to lefties out of the zone as strikes. Isit accurate?
Maybe I think this because I didn’t “PLAY” the game but how the hell is it possible for Betemit to just watch 3 consecutive strikes go by and not even think about swinging?
Game day dude must be drunk again…he shows the strike way off the plate and the ball crashing into A-Rod’s kneecap.
I agree — Betemit has shown some good power and hitting at times… but you definitely get that feeling that if he played 120 games, he would be striking out like 200 times.
Jorge…
spread whatever information you have on Lackey – PLEASE
heads up baserunning Alex YEH BABY !!!
Scott Boras does his job; as a publicist, an agent and simply a media personality (journalists, media celebrities, etc.)
They’re all proffessional whores and sycophants but that’s where the money and fame is. Of course, it’s the ability of a professional whores who make themselves seem “respectable” in the public eye which makes the person successful.
From an objective standpoint, it’s just another job however compromising people may think it is.
id like reggie willits on the yanks. as a backup or something
*WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF*
Cano has been walking alot lately (good sign), but with a base open and Betemit behind him, he’s somewhat compromised. Betemit might get a real opportunity if Cano can get on via hit or walk.
dammit Georgy !!!
still got a run out of it
OH MY!!
that was interesting
Posada didn’t get a good read on the ball I guess. It really rebounded off the stands quickly and right back to the fielder (1b?).
I’ll take the run, but what the hell was Posada thinking besides not a flippin’ thing ???
Posada has to be the slowest thing ever…It almost looks like he is not even moving sometimes.
ill take it
atta boy don vito
come on jorge!
guys are you really that spoiled? just be happy we got a run and thats a really tricky read when rounding third you cant see the bounce. that was the right move
yeah, posada broke when he saw the error but quinlan did a real good job recovering, most of the time that ends up in right field
For the sake of the children…they should probably not zoom in on a player’s mouth when something bad happens (Lackey).
anyone have a sopcast link for the game?
theyre giving cano a hit? is it just me or are they getting really generous on the hits nowadays.
oh god pray Andy isn’t tiring right now.
Ivan Rodriguez has 5 walks on the year..
Jorge is a terrible baserunner, amazing a catcher is a terrible baserunner.. he gets thrwon out all the time..
Arod cannot catch a pop..
amazing these guys have these weaknesses that they cannot improve on…
i just swore at jorge
BTW, Pettite doesn’t have a “lead” to protect. You don’t really “protect” 1-0 leads in the 4th inning, especially in the AL. Pettite’s job is still to give a “quality outing”. We all hope for a “great” outing, but it’s ultimately unrealistic to expect that against a good-hitting team. The onus is on our offense to get a few more runs for Pettite before he leaves this game (hopefully in the 6th, 7th, or possibly the 8th)
any body else witness that Texas Baltimore game?? 30-3 – and that’s not a typo… holy crap.
TRIVIA?
ANY ONE REMEMBER WHO STARTED OPENING DAY AT YANKEE STADIUM THIS YEAR
Another one of those nights. 6 hits through 4 and only a single run. Out damn DPs.
3-2, base open…Your move Pettite…throws a breaker hehe.
Note to Posada: Pitches to Vlad should be no where near the strike zone. Also with the Angels on base you cant take 20 minutes to get balls that should not allow slow Vlad to steal a base. Posada looks his age behind the plate it takes him forever to move back there.
Pav Dog
If the Moose’s next start is as bad as last night’ start,who will the Yankees start??
carl f in pavano
Carl P…on 2nd thought it’s a fog in my memory bank
What a Loser
Need a DP or some good defense here. K would suit me fine too. And, yes, Pettite wouldn’t mind loading the bases if he had to.
HUGE
Beautiful DP! Just what he was looking for!
BEEN A LONG SEASON HASN’T IT
OH THAT WAS SWEET !!!! HE WAS SAFE BUT IT WAS SWEET !!!
lucky call there. I’ll take it.
Now that was a sweet, key double play. Now let’s pile on some runs.
YES!!! GOLD GLOVE A ROD!!!
HOWIE !….we LOVE you, man !!!
We got a break for a change. Kendrick beat the relay but I’ll take it given the way the breaks in Anaheim usually go against us. Nice start of the DP by Arod.
it seems that all the calls at the beginning of the year were against the yanks now they are finally getting breaks
Lackey is vulnerable tonight. Let’s kick his ass this inning.
wow, he was safe, hahaha
Evening folks… Just love when there is a close play that goes the Yankees way, “they get the breaks”. Cracks me up.
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damn you Lackey!!!
udog would that be carl pavano?
he was definitely safe…
Betemit 2 bad AB’s Lackey is playing with him…
he needs bettr AB.
Nice AB Melky 1st friggin pitch..BAD BAD
lackey must be on pace to throw like 40 pitches tonight..
if he faced betemit 27 times he’d be under 100 pitches and have 27 k’s
Why is Betemit playing over Giambi tonight, give the latter’s auspicious numbers against Lackey?
Someone enlighten me please.
Cabrera is giving up his at bats in a 1-0 game..
Betemit lookd really vulnerable to those breaking balls…doesn’t seem to recognize the pitch, the spin. Something he’ll have to work on…
D-FENSE
gotta love pettitte so far.
great vlad story, pete.
anyone who posts regularly at mark’s blog will recognize “stuart.” he posted over there as “russ” and got banned.
Giambi playing defense against this Speedy aggressive Angel team is not that good of an idea.
I’d love to know how many bats Damon has broken this season. Geez! He goes through a lot of timber.
CAN WE PLEASE GO BACK IN TIME?
at least damon is making lackey throw 100 pitches before he’s done…
Betemit 3
Melky 1
Gee,Betemit matches up GREAT with Lackey, huh ? Some quality strikeouts there, kid….Where is GIAMBI when we need him ??? ( we need a rule where our 1B Batter can be Giambi and fielder can be Betemit…we’ll call it the 1BDH rule 145, section Q, subsection Yankees Rock ! )
Betemit should play against righties and Phillips against lefties. But it is obvious that Betemit gets fooled by every breaking pitch in the dirt..Bonderman did it to him also, I believe he struck out in his 2 at bats against him also.
pavano started opening day, trivia guy.
no WAY that was a strike….!!!!
REMEMBER THE GOOD OLE DAYS OF EIGHT INNING NO HITTERS????
Just 30 more runs and we can snatch that record away from the Rangers
No early to bed tonight! Go YANKS!!!
Who is “Mark” and My god, what do you have to do to warrant a ban from an internet blog? Did he sleep with the blog founder’s wife?
another blind as a bat home plate ump- the most incompotently performed job in America (outside the airline industry)
“I remember going over to ask him about it once. He laughed when I told him the fences were getting moved in. “No problem for me,â€? he said.
(Bleep) yes.”
Everytime I think of us signing Sheffield over Vlad, the word (Bleep) enters the thought.
I was just thinking where I could look up broken bats. I mean they have stats for eveything else. J.D. breaks a bat every game sometimes 2.
kill schill: kasey is on a first name basis with everyone famous because hes kasey.
And Kasey, we don’t particularly love informers here. If you feel the need to betray your fellow man, testify before HUAC.
“If your mommy is a commie, turn her in.”—John Birch Society
Stuart, the Yankee gameplan for tonight seems to be that Lackey throws strikes, thus an impetus to swing early. Not bad, just hasn’t worked optimally for now. The idea of taking pitches is meant to give your team the ability to get into the bullpen by the mid 6th or 7th, but the Angels have a really strong bullpen so it’s not a terrible sacrifice if Lackey can go into the late innings in their place. It’s our last game so we don’t worry about wearing down their bullpen anyway.
The Yanks have to find a way to get Giambi in the lineup almost every night. Especially since he has been hitting homeruns. If that means Damon playing CF and Giambi the DH then so be it. Melky can come in to play CF for defense late in the game. But Giambi is needed and he shouldnt be on the bench most of the time and Melky hasnt done a thing recently. The more Giambi sits the less he will have his timing.
i hope we dont win because of that gift run
Excellent analysis Terry. If you see a good one from Lackey you should hack early. With 2 strikes he breaks off some nast stuff. And most of out hots tonight have some early in the count. Approach would be working beter without the DPs and running into an out.
actually screw it a wins a win
Well, Betemit had two strikeouts in his first two ABs against the Tigers on Sun and ended up with 4 RBIs that game – including the bases-loaded double.
NOT A GIFT THERE WAS ONE OUT
NOPE TWO MY BAD
I actually endorse playing Giambi at 1st for 6-7 inning and then replacing him with Phillips. If he injures himself, then he injures himself. Duncan gets more playing time.
Giambi has great hands. He just can’t turn the 3-6-3 double play particularly well.
Don Vito, regarding your question about the save rule:
when the final pitcher goes three innings or more for the winning team [assuming not also the starter], that pitcher by rule has earned a save. Ya don’t see it very often, that is for sure!
Michael, my thoughts exactly. The strategy would be working better except for some unfortunate DPs. It’s just worked out that way.
wow what a horrible throw to 1B Bobby , calm down
ABREU WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT!
Both New York teams blew it when it came to signing Vlad Guerrero. If only he had come from Tampa, then George would have signed him.
take a seat, sucker !
MGW …thanks for the info…I kinda figured that…and yet another stupid MLB rule is exposed…like that guy deserved a save…like he REALLY saved the game…stupid, stupid rule…
Good game so far. Lackey is tough, especially when he pitches against the Yankees. You knew Andy bring his best. He is that kind of pitcher.
Very, very disappointed to see Mussina is starting on Monday. That’s just throwing away a game needlessly. It also means, you blow out the bullpen prior to the Red Sox series to cover another one of his putrid starts. It makes no sense to me at all.
Only I thing I will say is, he has to stay out there. I don’t care if the Tigers score 100 off him, he can’t blow out the bullpen for the Red Sox series. If its his last start, which it better be, its the least he can do.
Be nice to get a couple of add on runs here. They need to give Andy some breathing room.
I’d like to see Jeter try and hit into a double play now.
Sheffield was right about one thing. The Yankees erred by signing him instead of Guerrero.
SJ – who is your starting pitcher? Igawa?
I’m just asking… Why was Pettite ever gone? Who in the Yankees Brain Trust thought letting him walk was OK? Who decided NOT to give Andy Pettite what he desserved? And is that person or people still on the Yankees payroll?
I hope not.
i hope we dont win because of that gift run
Boston Yankee….that’ll be the last silly thing you say tonight, sir. I don’t care if we win by 1 gift run or by 20 gift runs….if we can salvage a 3-6 season record against these iceholes, I’ll take that ( and so will YOU, friend !!! )
Jeter looks really bad out there. He hits into a million DPs and his patience has almost become Cano like. I dont even remember the last time he had a long at bat. Maybe he does need another day off if he is beat up.
Adam – I think you’re talking about George Steinbrenner. He’s still on the payroll.
True about Sheff and Vlady! We picked the wrong right handed batter.
if cashman was running the show back then, we probably would have guerrero…instead george wanted sheff…
Lackey’s wised up after seeing the Yankees swing at the first pitch and has gone to his breaking balls for first pitch strikes…mixing it up like a smart pitcher should.
lackey has no walks in like 5 games going into this one arod works two from him
Damn, Alex is fast. If he wants the base, it’s his.
RBI update for Ordonez and ARod, anyone?
lack·ey (lăk’Ä“)
n., pl. -eys.
A liveried male servant; a footman.
A servile follower; *a toady*
Let’s start smackin’ this *toady* around, like *now*
what you gotta love about Alex is he’s not getting himself out. I mean John Lackey is just nasty.
Phil Hughes will either be Roger Clemens part 2 or John LAckey part 2 , I’d love either one.
Adam – Steinbrenner didn’t like Andy and the Yanks thought that his elbow would fall to pieces. I think (not positive) that he missed a TON of games for the Astros.
Steinbrenner was calling the shots back then and he always preferred outside Free Agents vs. homegrown talent. Thankfully we are in a better time now – - – see Mssrs Joba, Phil, Melky, Robinson, Andy, et al.!!!
and jeter has always been a guy who will swing early in the count, but i have to come believe he knos what he’s doing, two of the outs he made today were on well hit balls
121 rod
111 mags
Matthews sure can catch the ball – and that has nothing to do with the fact that he juiced!
:;
Gameday shows that Matsui hit a Home Run that was caught…is that true ???
Dissapointing, but this is their field and Mathews knows the dimensions of the field, the warning track and the lighting (familiarity the lighting and background of the backstop and seats are what allow home fielders to get good reads and jumps off hit balls better than visiting fielders)
It’s always a bad omen when the Yankees don’t capitalize on runner’s in scoring position. I can’t foresee Pettitte pitching a shut-out.
Damn this game is flying.
White or Kennedy TK. One thing is clear, he didn’t get a ringing endorsement from the manager.
It looks like Monday is judgment day for him. If he is awful again, he is out of the rotation.
Its unfortunate though he is getting one more shot. They need wins, not to make Mike Mussina feel better.
Its a tough situation but, I wish they pulled him now. I hate throwing away games at this stage of the season.
But, what’s done is done. Let’s hope they can win the first three in Detroit so his pummeling won’t hurt so much.
no – he was 10 feet from the wall and ran into it
“I’m just asking… Why was Pettite ever gone? Who in the Yankees Brain Trust thought letting him walk was OK? Who decided NOT to give Andy Pettite what he desserved? And is that person or people still on the Yankees payroll?
I hope not.”
Andy left on his own. It had nothing to do with George or the Yankees. Well that’s not all true but they(The Yankees) did offer him 3 more Million per to pitch in New York.
Supposedly the Red Sox offered Andy 4 years 54 Million, don’t know how much I believe that though.
guys go to gameday and press offensive hits. its beautiful
it’s horse vs horse tonight. Our LHB need to make an impact
Figures this non homerun hitter would hit one. A pitch right down the middle.
SJ44,
I can’t complain too much. This will be Mussina’s last start before September 1, so if he is bad again then you can pull him and not have to make a roster move. After all these years I can give him one more shot.
The mistake you can’t make, damn it. They just can’t beat this team. Every mistake they make, the Angels pounce on it.
Its amazing.
I am so sick of this crap. Matsui’s ball was hit about 2xas hard as that flyball by OC.
SJ44 -
Moose has been awful, no question about it. I would guess that we will wait until Sept. 1 to put Kennedy into the mix. I am not familiar with White.
I think Joe T. knows that this is his last rodeo, I doubt he is concerned about Mooses’ sensitivity.
Been a while since Pettite allowed a homer, so he was due. Yankees need to score those runs now.
Again, you can’t expect to win against an AL team (let alone a division leader) with one run.
am I the only one thinking Damon could’ve caught that ?
damn
Getting rid of Pettitte was a joke. Even though he might of been hurt they have wasted so much money on pitchers and Pettitte was the one person that deserved it. Amazing how now that Cashman is making the calls he gives a 38 year old Mussina a 2 year deal. If Cashman was always in charge Pettitte never would of left and Vlad would be in RF..who knows what else would be different.
Brandon,
It looked to me like it was just a bit too high for Damon to have a real play. Would have been interesting to see Melky make a try for that though.
matthews made a nice cathc but missed a HR by 10 feet.
do the yanks shutout anyone???
abreu almost blew that one
damn the Angel pen is coming soon…….
If moose pitches bad Monday he is out of there…that is my prediction. I think he will pitch decent..Andrew Miller Friday, give bobby wall the night off. He bales against hard throwing lefties………
Capt’m –
You mean you didn’t enjoy Kevin Brown and Randy Johnson???
Makes me wanna puke!
damon got a good jump but he was too far to the left. we just need to score a ton of runs and give the ball to joba
all right, andy is still pitching a superb game. One more inning without yielding a run is all we can ask.
Now, gets this lackey, toady, factotum, and supplicant.
SJ
Steve White you say? Interesting…
agree completely with gw, how we ever let pettite leave is beyond me. i pray to god we dont let jorge or mo leave this offseason. and agree that mussina deserves to know he’s pitching for his spot in the rotation. i think the reason players have so much respect for joe is because he treats them with respect, and in spite of his mismanagement of the bullpen the last few years, I think joe’s emotional presence is irreplacable
Any predictions who would replace Moose if he’s out of the rotation? I know there’s the expanded September roster, so there are a few options.
you know what? Without Shields, the only Angels reliever that scares me is K-Rod.
In an interesting note on Pettitte leaving, the draft pick we got from Houston for him turned to Phil Hughes.
if pettite goes 7 we can use joba for two (with the day off and everyone else available friday) if the game is heading into extras
I swear, Abreu HAS to call those balls a little earlier than that. He’s been in right field long enough to be able to recognize whether he can catch those pop ups by the time they hit their apex. It’s not about “losing” the ball because it’s against the backdrop of a night sky.
If this copntinues, the fielders around him have to continue to play cautiously when they venture into his vicinity and that is to the Yankees detriment. The worst case scenario is that he’ll hurt someone else, hurt himself, or both.
alright ROBI !
We are in a position to take the lead right back…that’ll demoralize the Angels especially if we can shut them down the following inning.
Please BETEMIT, do not strike out. I’d even take a double play that scores the run.
here we go Yankees.. *here we go* boom, boom !!!
Even the Angel’s homer announcers are trying to rationalize how that half swing from a banjo hotter carried over the fence. “Backspin” was the answer. They don’t know no stinkin backspin. Arod will show them backspin on his patented 420 foot right center pop-ups on a pitch painting outside black. Papelpud knows aht I’m talking about. Meawhile Jorge going first to third.
Why not Giambi now?
Dice K doesn’t get run support. The redsox offense always chokes when his pitching. He has pitched wonderfully.
damn they’re playing the infield in.
look at jorge run! i was hoping for a DP from cano, but i’ll take the single!!
big spot here
I like Abreu as a hitter. He has good speed and a good arm in the outfield, but overall I don’t think I’d call him a very good outfielder. I actually feel much better on balls hit to Matsui who doesn’t have nearly as much speed.
In regards to Pettite leaving, I thought he wanted to go pitch in his home state, that money wasn’t the reason he left.
Carmine.
Steve White is a real possibility. He has solid numbers in AAA and is an older pitcher than Hughes, Chamberlain and Kennedy so pitch count and inning limits won’t be a factor. He won’t be spectacular, but he could do the job.
Damn…I love Vlad.
Wilson has done well so far in the clutch -
don’t make me regret this!@!
dammit he lined it but a Vlad !!!
well, here’s the Yanks’ best scoring chance for the last 5 years against Lackey. let’s what they do.
Can we please take advantage of this???!!! Giambi should of pinch hit for Betemit then Phillips plays 1st base. Bad move by Torre Betemit hasnt touched Lackey.
again with the atom balls. running out of horsehoes LAA
cano could have tagged
you do NOT run on vlad.
and if you are posada, you don’t run on any outfielder
The *Melk*man is gonna deliver…watch *this* !!!
so basically the red sox would be 2 and 24 in games started by igawa
Bad luck for Betemit, Now it’s up to Cabrera who’s pretty fast and batting left so he’s tough to double up (thus allowing a run to score if they try to turn it…K is the danger here.
Worst hack of the year by melky
Thank God.
Now that is CLUTCH
Melky!
MELKYYYYY
MELKMANNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES MELKMAN DELIVERS!
melky
melky!!!!!
Is it just me, or would it have been a good idea for Giambi to pinch hit for Betemit just now and then replace Giambi with Philips in the bottom of this nning?
good call don vito bellamo
Come on Jeter, let’s get another run.
pettite 1 more then joba and mo
Melky gets it done. Wonder how long Lackey stays in: he’s past at 99 pitches.
you can PUT IT ON THE BOARD !!!!!!!!!!
The Melk Man delivers!
And then Lackey tries to bounce another one but Melky was sitting on it and he left it up!
So when’s Joba time?
Michael- Have you seen Matsui hit lately? He has taken some hacks that are probably worse than that
Damon take a pitch!!!??!! Where is the patience…
We need to get another here. Jeter’s been in a bit of a prolonged slump. Time to break out!
Jeter TOOK the first pitch ???? SWEET !
Shields is up with his 8+ second-half ERA…watch him own us now, just because.
com’on CAptain DP , line one in the gap
Jeter,
Please hit a double.
Best,
Fans
Break out of the micro mini slump Jetes!
@Don:
Doesn’t Jeter always take the first pitch, and isn’t it always a strike?
booyah!!
Jeets! Nice job.
Stay at first next time though.
I didn’t mean he’s been slumping stat-wise, I meant Jeter-wise. In the clutch. Should’ve clarified.
I’ll take the run and the out.
Nice, that better hold up. Andy, Joba, Mo.
CAPTAIN DP GETS AN RBI, 1 MORE INNING THEN ,,,,,
IT’S JOBA TIME !!!!!!!!!
Damon needs a slap across the face for swinging at the first pitch, although he *did* prevent Jeter from hitting into a DP…
Pettitte starts the 7th. If he gets in trouble, bring in the Viz.
Start Joba the 8th.
Mo for the 9th.
Joba should not start the 7th and go 1+ inning. Going 1 inning today will be perfect with the off day tomorrow so he can pitch the opener against the tiggers.
Pete, is johnny damon’s full first name really johnny?
Melky and Captain Clutch comes through!
I’m so happy to know that we have Joba and Mo available tonight.
The 2007 version of Mo needs at least a 3 run lead. c’mon Yanks!
NICE! Ok here’s how it’ll pend out:
Andy pitches the 7th.
Abreu walks, A-Rod #42.
Joba in the 8th,
Mo in the 9th.
Yanks win 5-1.
I dont know why Kay keeps talking about Shields. If he hasnt realized the Yanks never touch him. He can give up 80 runs in the month and he will get the Yanks out 1,2,3.. Big hit by Jeter but he had to stay at 1st base he isnt fast enough to take advantage of the Angels defense like they do against the Yanks.
In the Clutch Captain, we believe.
Jeter went to second when the throw got through just as he was supposed to but Mathis recognized that he couldn’t get the runner, stepped up, and got extra momentum with his throw to get Jeter. If he had tried to get the tag on Cano, he would have had no play at 2B. All in all, a very good inning.
The Way MO has been pitching ? how about Andy, Joba, joba ?
( I know …I’ve had too much ganja ! )
Classic Jeter inside-outer. But whay give up an out going to 2nd with another insurance run on 3rd?
Do you go to Joba now? Big question because I think they have to start innings with him. These rules make for very tough decisions. Do I throw him 2 innings tonight and lose him for game 1 in Detroit? Do I wait it out and risk losing this game by trying to make so he can pitch in Detroit? These rules put Torre in a tough situation.
would be 43 for arod
The only unsettling thing is what if Pettitte runs into trouble here. Farnsworth’s our only option then, no?
Someone put a space-heater on Joba’s Arm – - – let’s take two here and take advantage of a day off tomorrow!
With the Bosox and Mariners losing, we need this one!
At this point in the game, Pettite’s modus Operandi is to go “softer”. More change-ups and slower breaking balls.
A Rod already has 42.
dang
robbie please
If A-Rod hits a 2-run shot, you dont use Joba IMO
Cano didnt need to rush that
not for nuttin’, but isn’t that twice we have been gunned down on the basepaths with 2 outs and runners that WOULD have been in scoring position for the next batter ? FUNDAMENTALS Dammit !
I meant 2 innings for Joba – didn’t realize AP’s pitch count
#43, my bad.
Cano’s little mistakes kill us.
Oh no Robbie Joe Cano!
Farnsworth coming in with runners on sounds like a winning recipe. I can’t remember the last time that’s happened.
Cano sleeps ONCE again. Leading off the inning he has to make that play. The Angels do score most lead off runners.
Yanks are 7-5 in games Kei Igawa starts? Really?? I expect some chowderhead sports writer like Bill Madden to write Igawa pitches to the score and stats like ERA are irrelevant.
I’m sorry, that’s not a single. I’m glad that Cano doesn’t gt an E (as long as the run doesn’t score), but he deserves one there.
Andy Pettitte’s offer was $52 million over 4 years from the Red Sox in 2003. Per the NY Times 2/25/07, reported numerous other places. Andy most certainly was kicked out the door. He doesn’t get in bar fights or pitch drunk. Maybe that would’ve helped his image with Steinbrenner. George let it be known for a long time he wanted to trade him, (esp. to Philly a few years prior). He was treated like crap. After the 2003 post season when Pettitte pitched his guts out for the team, they had a window in which they could communicate with him. After spending his whole career with the Yankees and a splendid performance in the 2003 post season, they didn’t even pick up the phone and say, Andy, we think you might have arm problems (which it turned out he did), but we’d like you to stay, maybe for such and such, etc. They did not even have the courtesy to pick up the phone, left the guy sitting by the phone for a week or 2. He had no choice but to look at other offers. The outcry from fans totally astounded them, and someone placed an item in one of the tabloids pushing a rumor that would certainly have offended his wife and children. The story of how they treated Andy was on the front pages of every paper. I hoped every day that Clemens would change his mind, decide to pitch again and go to be with Andy,which he did. This would stick it to the Yankees a bit. They did make Andy an offer after the window was over, but it was obvious by that time the Yankees were disdainful of him. Anyone who says the story was anything else is either misinformed or has some agenda. This being the internet, lies are told all the time. I nevertheless always hoped he’d come back in a few years, and he did.
They rules that a hit?
Youd figure Torre would have put Andy in at 1st by now for defense.
I’m pacing. Who’s joining me?
hey.. can’t they modify the Joba rules.. say to define the rest based on number of pitches thrown rather than innings.. maybe 20-30 equals a day off.. 30+ is two days.. is that feasible?
Schill- Im always pacing. Was that a barehanded play by Andy
NICE PLAY Andy & Betemit stepped it up
even if joba goes 1 tonight he is good for the next game and he does need to get some innings to stay fresh
the lady below me is 85. I swear to God, she wants to kill me during the baseball season. I pace. I scream. I pound my feet.
Good play by Betemit, but Phillips should be there this late in the game. Come on Pettitte this is a big out.
Averted a near infield-chopper, LAA disatseter again there with the sweet barehand by Pettitte. Not a smooth play by Betemit. The Andy fanboys would have been clamoring on that one.
Yet he came back to the Yankees after all that this year. To the same Yankee Org and to same Yankee Owner.
I’m not saying the Yankees treated Andy like the King he is, but the way you say it Susan makes it sound like the Yankees wanted no part of Andy Pettite and proceeded to throw him out like garbage, and thats simply not true.
Facts are facts. They are offered MORE money for him to pitch in New York than Houston. That’s got to mean something.
I’m pacing. Who’s joining me?
Sorry, too busy chewing off my nails.
Armand- I dont think so. I dont think they want him warming up so much. They are taking no chances with this kid and I dont blame him
Good wheels by Pettite getting to first, not to mention the bare-handed catch (by the look of the play, it would have been awkward reahing for it with his glove in mid-stride/ try doing that when you swing arm is going in a different direction)
Not easy for a lefty usually to turn all the way around and break for first, but unlike alot of pitchers, Anfy maintains perfect balance and ends up in good fielding position (he’s a VERY good fielder)
Same crap treatment of Pettitte I heard and it’s terrible. But again, not that I’m happy about his mistreatment, but his leaving gave the Yankees Phil Hughes and he’s back now and has really stabilized our rotation. I mean it’s not great, but it’s better than it has been. How about 2004: Ace Jon Lieber?
jobamo
Good job Andy, that’s what I like to see.
Joba time!!!
Good job by Pettitte. Good thing Cano woke up to field that one.
Schill- Are you sure she can hear you being 85? Youd figure her hearing isnt so great
Who had to hold their breath when Mathis hit that 2-out ground ball to Cano? Sad.
great great great job by andy tonight. man he is clutch
i mean wouldn’t it be more logical to base it on the number of pitches thrown than just innings?.. just a thought…
we’re finding out Betemit can hold his own at 1B, nice hands, good reaction, good first step and instincts
Pettitte’s our ace, no question.
Andy Pettitte coming up big again just like he has for us so many times over the years. I almost feel spoiled by him!!
Pettitte’s been great tonight outside of one pitch. One of the other reasons Pettitte left in 03 (besides pitching near home) was the Yanks’ underwhelming approach to him that November. IIRC, it left him feeling unwanted. some of that was George and some, I think, was Cash being concerned about Andy’s elbow holding up. That was somewhat valid given that he did spend a good chunk of time on the DL in Houston.
it would be nice to come out of this with a W against Lackey
BOBBY!!!!
Didnt the Yanks offer Pettitte 39 mill and the Astros gave him more years for 32 mill???
joba, joba, then get on the flippin’ plane the HALE outta dodge !!!
Go Abreu!!! Big hit right there…
Let’s see Matthews spin around 3 times and catch that one.
BOBBY !!
BOB-BOOM!!!
Betemit is an excellent fielder (though not ayet a good 1B yet), but he’s not very agile because of his girth. I heard somewhere that he bulked up recently so if he can trim some bulk, he can be alot quicker (mainly because he can RECALL being quicker)
One of the reasons that Andy is a better fielder? He’s smaller.
BOBBY!
Extend that man! Bobby has rediscovered the long ball lately.
Great job by Andy tonight! Lets make sure the pen behaves!
Bobito! nice Dinger!
BOBBY!!
hahaha Lackey get out of here. No 16 wins for you.
Looks like Joba Mo it is.
Huge, huge homer for Bobby.
solid
I guess you can say the best part about Pettitte leaving and then coming back is now they have Hughes out of that. So now they have both of them.
How about THAT backspin Angel’s announcers. Take that! And a little of this! You like that?
Armand-
The problem is that it takes a lot of warming up, including 8 hard pitches from the mound to make an appearance of even 1 batter. I think for relivers the pitch count hing is overblown. As a long-term investor in this team, I supprt the caution with Joba. This kid is so much fun to watch, has a great future, and is only just the past month adjusting to the bullpen.
Talk about bonehead managers. Scosia leaves Lackey in after 105 pitches and pays for it.I love it!!!
Armand:
“BOB-BOOM!!!”
That is by far the best Abreu HR call I’ve seen/heard – nice work!
If we can take 1/3 from the Angels, that’s like sweeping any other team for us, so this would be a huge win, get out the brooms!
Hopefully we can tack on a few more and let Andy finish this one out or at least one more so we dont have to use Joba
Alright replace that Abreu walk with a hr. Now for #43. Against Shields no less.
to think we could have taken 2 out of 3 from these basterds if not for WUSSINA !!!!
I have Scot Shields on my fantasy team. I guess I haven’t been checking my relievers enough. I really should’ve picked up Joba when he became available.
Youd figure Sciocsia would avoid Shields being down 3 runs
Give him an extension, that man Bobby Aboomboom.
Scot Shields seems much less intimidating when we are ahead by three runs!!
Arod should run again. He is the unsung hero tonight, with the glove and walks despite not hitting bombs. Simply NOT MAKING OUTS is the holy grail of being a baller.
I SEE JOBA!!
TKinDC
thanks! winning against the angels gets me excited like that.
Michael
yeah, you’re right.. was just a wandering thought to maybe give a little more flexibility… but i cannot agree more that being careful is the way.
steal another one ARod. make Scotty pay.
Payback time.
I wish we had signed Vlad instead of Sheff. That was the biggest mistake in the past few years
The thing with Shields is he hasn’t consistently been terrible, but he’s had 3 outings where he’s given up 3-5 runs. That’ll do some ERA damage, so let’s hope he has one of those.
i never thought i’d see the day where sheilds sucked this much. i feel like we have always wanted a set up guy like him…
2 huge runs here…when we get them…we may not need to use joba ???
Good thing Quinlin didn’t catch that ball; he’d would have been dragged back to the warning track.
Go NYR:
Me and my friend talk all the time about how much better our outfield would be with Vlad and how much more terrifying it would’ve been to have Vlad and A-Rod back to back.
chill w/ the Bobby extension talk he’s not that good
Maybe because Pettitte is a religious man, he got underrated by the Yankee front office. That can happen in baseball..religious players are seen as too passive and accepting of failure. They also looked at his elbow and thought they could better with others. The guys they got were even more injury-prone (Brown, Pavano) or scared (Johnson, Vasquez). Great to have number 46 back. The front office blew it in 2003 but in 2006 they corrected it.
Time for Errol Flynn as Captain Blood..”Keep pouring it on boys!!!” Bruce Springsteen is nothing compared to Korngold.
I stated that they made Andy an offer, if that’s the fact to which you refer. All the other facts I included were the more important ones in Andy’s decision. If it had been me, I’d certainly have done the same thing Andy did. The Red Sox offered more than anyone, and he didn’t go there either. That doesn’t change anything I said. I also said I always hoped he’d be back in a few years. They needed him desperately for one thing, he’d be going to the same manager who always trusted him, Cashman admitted he made a mistake in the way he treated him. Finally, George is in no way the same influence he was. If you wish to discuss this further, I’d be happy to do so by email.
Open the gates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A-Rod is merely performing for Boras. Can we get Scott to more games please!?!?
Brandon, without the Yankees version of 38pitches, we’d have swept Detroit and taken 2/3 against the Angels, and we’d be three back behind Boston and .5 games ahead of the Mariners.
HIP HIP !!!
Shields must really have nothing if they are hitting him.
TAKE THAT SHIELDS!!!!!!
This is why the Joba rules suck. They’re probably going to use him tonight no matter how many runs they score in this inning. Yet they could have used him Monday night, in a close game, to get a win. I concede however that Torre’s abuse of relievers in the past makes “the rules” a good idea. Regardless, Joba is the most exciting thing in baseball right now and we’re probably going to get to see him pitch in a few minutes:)
HIP HIP
I’m loving this right now…guys, this is just a time to savor the night. 6-1 lead and Joba in the 8th.
If we tack on here Id like to see Andy in the eigth. He still looks strong and Mo could use some downtime. Joba, meanwhile is getting “rusty”. That is the worst aspect of the Joba rules. He is like a fine wine you keep cellaring for a special occasion and tehn it turns stale.
JORGE JORGE
I mean Shields is less intimidating when we’re up by FIVE runs!!
Can we petition the league to make our wins against the Halos count for 3? Pretty please?
haha bitches, take that!
i can go to bed in peace now…
Shields is also less intimidating when his fastball tops out at 92
I agree with Go NYR – Lets give Boras the seat right behind home plate at the stadium.
HIP HIP JORGE!!!
I think that was a lucky catch
I really to treasure this moment. Beating up on Shields. I’m framing this boxscore in gold.
joba for 1 inning, then his OFF day is tomorrow when Yankees are idle and he is available for 2 of the 4 detroit games…very nice !
susan mullen sounds like a lawyer or a politician who has the Known Facts (TM) talking points and is only interested in stoicking to them
A couple hundred more runs against and we’ll have officially repaid him for all the Yankee killing he’s committed in the past.
With Joba and Mo to follow, we should win this game.
Sox and Mariners already lost.
That is why we should not be losing sleep over a loss on a day to day basis. It was unblievable to read the negativism on this blog yesterday. Also, giving Mussina another chance is not the end of the world. Sure, he bombed last two times, but before that he was pitching very well.
the rumor is the Yankees will either replace Moose w/ Steve White, Ian Kennedy or Kei Igawa via Buster Olney
The Joba rules are necessary because Torre can’t be trusted with any discretion.
nate- I think if he was at every game, it would get old but if you fly him in for the big games, it would have more of an affect.
bootcheck ! Boston Yankee, you got yours ??????
Go NYR –
I had the same thought the other night – - – I think the Yanks should commit Boras to watch games as part of the extension. A-Rod even pointed to that blood-sucker after his HR the other night.
Nice thinking Don! I’m right there with you.
Brandon- Torre shot that down earlier
Igawa? How does that improve our team??
Where did you hear that about Buster Olney, Brandon?
Anyone think Wang would be the #1 pitcher if we make the playoffs? I’m for Pettitte.
Brandon-
Kennedy start > Mussina > White much much >> Igawa
DEAL! you can’t have satan around for every moment
TK- Could he have been pointing to his wife who was with Boras for Game 1?
Olney didn’t say kennedy – he said white or igawa – on baseball tonight
Brandon; Where is that rumor from?
Stef- Youd have to start Pettitte game 1
Stef-
If we make the playoffs, I doubt Torre will have the luxury of setting up the rotation. It will be down to the wire.
Joba should start the 8th. If he brought back Pettitte and he got tired in the inning you would have to see Viz or Farns because Joba cant be brought into an inning. Better to be safe and treat the game like it is alot closer. Joba 8th, Rivera 9th.
Wilson,,,,no !…that is OK…The Melkman has one more delivery to make before he calls it a night….right HERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
“I stated that they made Andy an offer, if that’s the fact to which you refer. All the other facts I included were the more important ones in Andy’s decision. If it had been me, I’d certainly have done the same thing Andy did. The Red Sox offered more than anyone, and he didn’t go there either. That doesn’t change anything I said. I also said I always hoped he’d be back in a few years. They needed him desperately for one thing, he’d be going to the same manager who always trusted him, Cashman admitted he made a mistake in the way he treated him. Finally, George is in no way the same influence he was. If you wish to discuss this further, I’d be happy to do so by email.”
Okay Susan you can put your dukes down, I’ll take your word for it.
I’d like to finish by saying, I’m glad Andys back too
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“the rumor is the Yankees will either replace Moose w/ Steve White, Ian Kennedy or Kei Igawa via Buster Olney”
Brandon,
I could of told you that and my names not Buster Olney!
Man, Betemit has some power from that side. I know it was pitch down and in and that it’s natural for a lefty but that looked like a lazy swing at a breaking ball and he got it towards the warning track.
Melky does it again!
Poor Jorge has to be tired from running so much
ESPN Viper on Baseball Tonight
Why would we listen to that monkey Olney when we have Peter who is actually AT THE STADIUM TALKING TO JOE. Buster gets all his information from ‘sources’ or ‘people he’s talked to’
the guy is just trying to sound well informed, but he is often wrong
oh wait…ARod choked in 2005 ALDS against Angels, so Boras wasn’t at those games??!
man… winning against the angels is sweet… with Joba pitching too.. icing on the cake baby!!
can I call it OR WHAT ???????? LOL !
You want Mo in a 7 run game? I disagree, you can’t do that with Detroit coming up.
Assuming Joba hold the Angels to a run or less, do you pitch Farnsworth in the 9th abd try to save Mo?
The ufnny thing is, I would rather see Igawa than Moose at this point. YOu know what you are getting from him. 5 innings, a few solo homers. Moose is a coin flip. Either great or unclassifiably bad
Michael, I hope that’s not the case. Pett’s earned #1 and it would sure help our cause to have our bulldog out there, leading the way.
our offense really can explode late in a game, it seems like we have a lot of these games that are close up until the 7th or 8th and then get blown wide open
from what I remember Olney is dead on in trades, Gammons is usually the tease. They both are well informed insiders.
Not to jinx it as there is still some game to play here, but if the Yankees win they finish the first 13 game stretch at 8-5 which is what I was hoping for.
Day off tomorrow, then next 13 game set with Det(4), Bos(3), TB(3) and Sea(3). I would say I want at least 8-5 in that stretch, but it is getting late, so I will ask for 9-4 instead. That means winning each series. I think that’s what will happen. Oh and by the way, when the 13 game stretch is over, the Yankees will be leading the wild card. That’s my prediction.
Kill-If I were managing, Pettitte finishes the 8th and Joba the 9th.
yup farnsworth pitches the 9th now
I think Mo needs work.
He will pitch ninth as Thursday is off day.
Stef-
Def. Pettitte if they can set it up that way. The way he is pitching now it is much more likely that he can match a #1 starter then Wang would. Experience is better…
I love seeing this weak version of Shields…about TIME! K-ROD has never been scary to me. He’s too emotional.
What’s this Olney nonesense about replacing Mussina with Kennedy? Torre already announced Mussina is pitching on Monday.
i think mo with his age and recent slump can use a few days off
Gabe White would be a better choice to make a start than Moose right now!
Stef,
This is only my opinion but I think you got to start Wang Game 1. Pettitte is older and a stopper, he should be the #2 in case Game 1 goes wrong.
Also Wang being much younger, you can start him for Game 4 and not worry about it. With Pettitte being 34, you’d have second thoughts pitching him on short rest.
My Playoff Rotation would be. Wang, Pettitte, Clemens, Hughes/Mussina.
Mussina can still earn his way back on their and is fully capable of doing it despite what the majority of the fans think.
I agree he’s on in trades because he does talk to gms, but when it comes to in season tweaks of lineups – i’m going with beat guys who cover the teams day in and day out
Oh and from a personal standpoint, my next tickets are Sat Sept 1st. That would be Moose’s next start. Could it be instead that I will be seeing the debut of one Mr. Ian Kennedy? That would be sweet.
Anyone sign the Boomer? Wherever he goes, may it not be the Mariners.
*IT’S JOBA TIME !!!*
Rivera in the 9th. I dont want to see Farnsworth unless the different in scores is by 10 runs. Vizcaino looks like he could use the 2 days off also.
Global — I’ve lost my trust in Wang. He’s struggling, and we’re not even sure why. I say take the wins that you can. The Yanks aren’t real good about “coming back” either —
I wouldn’t let Mussina anywhere NEAR the mound during the playoffs. He’s done, as far as I’m concerned. Experience, Schmience. He sucks.
I’d go: Pett, Wang, Clemens, Hughes
I say Joba for 2. So we won’t have him Friday, that’s ok, Clemens is going.
NASTY!!! The pitch and the spit that remained in his mouth… haha
My decision on who starts game 1 is based on home field advantage. At home you go with Wang, on the road you give it to Pettite. Wang pitches much better at the Stadium.
Given Joba rules, why waste him tonight? Given a 5 run lead.
BAM – 1 down!
I have been watching the Yanks since 1976 and I love Joba more than anything. Even mid-80s vintage Donny Baseball.
With a 7-1 lead I almost want Joba to run into a little trouble here. Maybe give up a run and get out of a jam.
I’m curious to see how he reacts to a bit of pressure.
What better time for it to happen than being 6 up?
omg, a hit off Joba!?!?!?!?!? He sucks, get him back to Scranton!
was that a hit?!!? woah… so joba actually is fallible… darn.. haha
“Given Joba rules, why waste him tonight? Given a 5 run lead.”
Day off tomorrow.
Waldman just said: “Everyone understands the Joba rules except Joba. He says he’s big and strong and doesn’t want to be babied.”
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not a bad point global warming.
its also fun to see people get blown away
We can bring in Farns to mop-up in the 9th. Mo needs rest and Joba made sense this inning given the off day and his already warming up.
This year
You have to keep him in some sort of rythm. They use him for one tonight and with the day off tomorrow he’s available against the Tigers if we need him.
He was warming up already when it was a 1 run game. No point sitting him back down when he’s thrown 20 warmup pitches.
what’s up with Jo-Po.. couple of missed balls in this game..
He gave up a hit, but I really liked the pitch before that. He was behind 2-0 after missing with a 96mph fastball and a 97mph fastball. Then Jorge signaled for Joba to slow things down, and Joba did: a 94 mph fastball that hit the outside corner.
Farnsworth could learn something.
That slider is the nastiest pitch I have ever seen.
here is a matchup
That slider is World Class. Cabrera is a contact guy and he missed it by a foot.
Niceeee! Joba v. Vlad.
Cabrera missed that by a foot.
Joba vs. Vladimir!!!
Go NYR,
I don’t see what you mean by Moose being “Either great or unclassifiably bad” as if to say that Igawa doesn’t have those same types of starts. Looking at their gamelogs, I’ll take the Moose over Igawa. Heck even IF Moose and Igawa had the same ERAs and the same percentages of quality starts, which is NOT the case), I’d still go with Moose because he’s proven his ability to adapt, whereas Igawa has yet to prove himself at the MLB level.
And he sneaks high chees past Vlad. What a stud.
No contest.
Joba McNasty!! DANG!!!
JOBA!!!!
lol. This kid is unreal.
JOBA Ks VLAD!
Man, he’s a MONSTER
I will name that slider McNasty.. it’s just plain sick…
damn Joba Chamberlain MotherF*……..
STRIKES OUT THE SIDE!!!!
Joba made Vlad look silly. You do not see that too often.
This kid surpasses anything that I’ve seen in a long time!!
Forget Igawa. Think Kennedy.
*yawn*
Joba strikes out the side.
Again.
Joba ROCKS…I’ll tell ya…hittes look STUPID swinging at that splitter….none of those guys on strike 3 were within a foot of it….too freakin’ funny !!! HE does NOT pitch the 9th….NO MATTER WHAT, TORRE….NO MATTER WHAT !
MAN!! Even if hughes and kennedy aren’t all they are cracked up to be, a rotation with Wang, Joba, Hughes, Kennedy and whoever, would sill be legit
Joba’s hot no doubt.
May God continue to answer his prayers…and ours
Challenges Vlad with the gas and then embarrasses him with the hard slider a foot off the plate. Life is good.
I am McLovin that McNasty pitch.
Gimme me Farnsy, or gimme death !
power vs. power
Joba K’s one of the best hitters of the past 5 years…on 3 pitches
Good thing Joba was brought into the game even though the score. They need to get his feet wet as much as they can because the next 2 weeks are big games and they need him ready to go. Even though he has been extremely impressive lets not forget he only has a couple of innings in his belt. You see Cabrera turn around and just look at him like what was that pitch?!! That was awesome… Joba does the fist pump but doesnt go wild like Krod does. What did the Angels announcers have to say about that inning?
nice hustle, bobby !
Joba’s slipping. He needed to face four batters to get those three K’s. Not like him at all.
Too bad we won’t be in the playoffs this year. Joba in October would have a nice sound to it.
I have a man Crush on JOBA!
Hey guys, whats harder to find, an ace starter or an elite closer?
What did the Angels announcers have to say about that inning?
…they gave Joba his kudos….
Welcome to Chris Bootcheck’s WORST nightmare!!!
3 pitches to vlad. 3 strikes from joba.
this is so much fun. the thought of watching him for 6+ innings every five days is awesome
. = moron…..take your doomsday posts outta here, ok ?
Joba has the antidote for the secret LAA lucky magic dust- no balls in play.
Terry- I was trying to say that how steady a pitcher is affects your team. Yesterdays and last weeks Moose is A LOT worse than Igawa has been for us. Its all about consistency. If you are the Yankees, dont you want to know if you have to score a bunch of runs or would you rather have it where you would rather have a guy pitch where he can be good or so bad that it is impossible to have a chance at winning. Igawa is bad but he does give you 5-6 innings and a OK shot to win. I would take my crack with the consistantly bad guy than the OK start or horrendous guy.
Huskers staying up late in the Midwest following along on the internet like me are chanting JOBA JOBA from their keyboards. YEEEEEEEEA
Ace SP in the making. And I can’t wait for Melancon and Humberto. Mark Melancon saids his arm feels better than it was before
Man that was fun to watch. Joba brings so much energy.
It looks like Joba in the 9th, so we wouldnt have him for Fri. Unless someone is warming up and they didnt show it. Torre get someone up in the bullpen, no way he should pitch the 9th.
Joba’s done this striking out the side thing a lot. It’s not really as impressive as it once was. I think he needs to strike out 4 or 5 in an inning. Y’know, purposely bounce that third swinging strike and let them get on to get more K’s.
Elite Closer might be harder to find but an elite Ace in your rotation is more valuable.
Joba’s future will be as a starter and rightfully so.
who is in the Bullpen now ?
Tseng- He strikes out Guerrero and its NOT impressive? Im lost
It seems like a better idea to have Joba as a starter and try to groom Ramirez as the closer.
Yankees are still on pace to break 1000 runs scored for the year…do the math…they are easily averaging at least 7 runs a game for a very long time now and just need to keep that up….the Postseason with Wang, Pettite and Clemens as the starters, and Joba included in the pen, with THIS offense…we are gonna have a good shot !
Go- I was just joking around. How can I not be impressed?
Tseng- Ramirez is 26 and does not have the stuff to be a closer. Hes a 2 pitch pitcher
damn Betemit gets screwed off another frozen rope. I hope he plays 1B vs RHP in Detroit
Go NYR – I think it was a bit of sarcasm on Tseng’s part.. lol.. would be fun to see 5 K’s in an inning though… Mr. Splittie has nothing on McNasty the Slider..
Cano is awful! He is really dragging this team down. Maybe we can trade him to Milwaukee for Chris Capuano.
As a Nebraska baseball fan who watched him pitch in college – in my opinion the Yankees should use him as a starter. Just my 2 cents.
Tseng I did not read your full first post. Sorry
Does Joba’s stuff remind anyone else of a vintage 1984-85 Doc Gooden?
Tseng do you mean Humberto Sanchez and not Ramirez as the closer? I assume that..
I say if we make the playoffs, we start Kei Igawa and hope he pulls a 2006 Jeff Weaver and is amazing. It could happen….
If Edwar can develop a third pitch he could be a good reliever/closer.
Ramirez is being groomed for the 7th and 8 inning job, Mark Melancon or Humberto Sanchez will be groomed as the next closer
Alvin,
A good starter is harder to find. It’s a matter of stamina and the number of pitches you have to master, as well as going through the same lineup over and over again. Lot’s more factors get thrown in during a 6-8 inning stretch which is why it’s easier to be a reliever, even a closer (closers have VERY predictable routines and workloads like WHEN they come in and WHO they have to face. That’s why you see some starters becoming good relievers late in their careers but not the other way around.
Angels announcers gave Joba his due. They also didn’t say too much about the fist pump as that would be mighty hypocritical considering K-Rod’s M.O.
Hopefully, Torre runs someone else out for the ninth as there is no need to waste another day for Joba.
Also, don’t mess with Susan Mullen as she is VERY attached to Pettitte and Mo and thinks the Yankees disrespect them on the regular.
Good move by Torre getting Rivera in there.
This make little sense to me. Why Mo? Bring “The Farns” “Heeeeey!!”
Good riddance to Sheffield.
I have no use for racists who like to accuse other people of racism.
LOL Michael Kay’s an idiot. It’s 2-2 and he doesn’t realize it.
Farnsworth really needs to shave his head ala Rick Vaughn. He’s got the glasses already. He definitely just needs stronger lenses to be our wild thing. Fingers crossed.
Elite starter is much harder to find. The follpowing guys still carry weight as “automatic” closers: MO, Papelpud, Putz, Nathan, Hoffman, Cordero, Krod, Wagner, and Cordero. And in the past two years, Huston Street and Brad Lidge also carried the hallowed title. And thats not including has-beens like Brad Lidge, Armando Bentitez, Octavio Dotel, Tom Gordon, Bob Howry, etc. Almost every team has one fo a year or two. Let’s see a list of true Aces.
Go NYR: Dude he only struck out Guerrero once. If he was any good he would have gotten Vlad to swing around and miss that slider twice. Back to the minors for Joba.
Ramirez as the closer seems really interesting. He doesn’t have any other pitchers and if he learns any new ones they probably won’t be ++ pitch. But as a closer he could be successful with a well-located fastball and that nasty change. Kinda like Gagne.
We lost 2/3 but I think we are leaving California a better team. I think the Angels exposed our weaknesses and we can address them. They are the best team in the league … now. Somehow we need to win this division and make sure we get homefield advantage.
at what point do you start to entertain the idea that joba chamberlain is and will be a better pitcher then phil “franchise” hughes.
right now it’s no contest.
Well, that’s the daily ration of cheap hits that Mo has to deal with. A hit’s a hit in baseball.
What the hell is up with in field hits and bloop singles against Mo???
I enjoyed Sheff’s time in the Bronx, especially when he tried to fight half of the drunken louts at Fenway that night. Classic.
That being said, it was inevitable that he was going to run his mouth after he left as he has done that after departing each of his previous teams.
Also Isringhausen Gagne Saito accardo.
Why won’t they die?
Heh you’d think the outfielders woudl just move up a bit more when Mo pitches.
alvin it must be the curse of the 2001 world series.. bloops suck.. Come on Mo!! Get it together!!
It comes with the cutter. Its just mop up anyway
if we lose this game……
Terry: You don’t know Sheffield, so your comments are way out there and a stretch.
Angeks wasting the luckbox mojo. No way you make up 7 runs with seeing eye bleeders.
Rivera is going to get a workout this inning because of the slap hits. A 1,2,3 would of been nice but as long as they get the win…Betemit you should not of cut that ball off, you would of probably had an out, now they didnt get any outs.
yea….good to put Mo in
Wow Mariano is a very unlucky pitcher. That’s the 54,428th weak-ball crap that somehow got by or in between or just in front of the defense.
Mistake by Betemit there, but a good time to learn by making those types of mistakes…Rivera will have this in hand, regardless.
It’s okay, everyone knows these are some of the toughest situations for closers.
I have been seeing it since ALDS 05 game that Wang pitched. Choppers bounce really high in Anahiem. I think the Angels engineer their infield to their style of play. Not that there is anything wrong with it ..
maaaaaaaaaaaaahhh, not a fan of Mo’ pitching in a blowout, even if he supposedly needs the work…he’s been pretty unlucky tonight.
if we lose this game i say fire joe torre on the spot
AAGH! Will this game never end?
Prediction: Joba and Mo teach each other the slider and the cutter, respectively, by September 1.
He swung
that’s what you get for cheating on that ball
Ouch
Soory, but he swung at that. I distinctly recall a Yankee getting called out on the same deal.
OK foul ball
Joey_V
I don’t know Sheffeild, but as a Latino I take offense to his comment that the reason for the increase in hispanics in baseball is because we are “easy to control”, and consider it to be racist.
that’s right MO get nasty !
They say it hit the bat, But i dont see how its possible to hit the bat and then his hand
Nasty strike out pitch right there.
Joey, I’m not going to bother getting into that type of an argument tonight.
Suffice it to say that Sheffield is proud of the color of his skin. That’s the true ideology of a racist in my book, but if you don’t think so, fine; I couldn’t care less and you shouldn’t care if I think otherwise for that matter.
Kotchman’s not 3 for 4 vs. Mo anymore! HA!!
you people are pathetic
Mo’s reputation from yester-year does not equal his consistently degrading performances.
Mark my words, we have seen the last of “Old Mo’. Maybe a few games this year he showed us his dominance, but more often than not. All year he has been fighting for control. As with the end of last year.
You people keep believing in Mo, I sure don’t anymore.
did mariano REALLY need to throw 27 pitches in a 8-2 game. I thought we were all speculating last week that Mo was suffering through a dead arm period.
Joe Torre’s management of his pen will never cease to puzzle me.
Bad week for Casey Stengel, not only does he get passed by Torre in wins, but he comes off as a bit of an a-hole for telling Rizzuto he could never be a baseball player and to go get a shine box. Makes me glad that Joe passed him. Congrats Yankee faithful.
Great win. Have to love Pettitte he is EVERY thing that Musstinka isnt.
troll
The world is right and cosmic order is returned to the universe…
ie the Yankees win.
YES!! We get to leave here on a good note. Great performance by Pettitte that we really needed and timely hitting as well. Good night all!
I can sleep tonight!!
Kill,
I’m with you. Mo is gasless. His years are catching up quick.
Yeah, it was not necessary to throw Mariano tonight, thats for sure.
The sequence to Vlad Guerrero:
88 slider
100 fastball
86 slider that just vanished.
“(Bleep) yes” Pete
sound win.. at least we can have Mo get this suckiness out of his system.. a bit like a blood-letting i guess..
go to sleep troll
I still trust Rivera as he is more than any closer. He is not what he was but then he was the greatest relief pitcher ever..and quite possibly the greatest player ever.
Mo should never have pitched tonight with that lead.
Just when I thought it was a perfect night, they throw out a Giussepe Franco commercial
*I NEVER DOUBT MO , BUT IF IT WEREN’T FOR WUSSINA WE WOULD HAVE TAKEN 2 OUT OF 3 FROM THESE BASTERDS !!!!!!!*
P.S. Betemit can play 1B, give him more Abs to see if he can be a reg. this season. Because Boston and Detroit and Seattle has alot of RHP and we need that power
Luckily, we have off day on Thursday, because Mo would not be available. Mo should use his changeup more so that he doesn’t have throw many pitches.
Great win by Pettitte. And the bats came alive against a really good pitcher. That’s always good to see.
good night all.. i sleep soundly tonight!
On to Detroit to take 3 outta 4 from the Tigers…I hope either Moose pitches a shut out on Monday or gets tagged for 10 runs and taken outta da rotation….no inbetween…all or nuttin’ !!!
Terry: You called him a racist and you didn’t back it up with anything factual. “Pride” of color has nothing to do with this. It’s your accusation which is unsupported that matters. If you want to blog and make comments like that, be ready to say why. It’s that simple.
Joba’s a starter. given that he can throw 97 in his seventh inning in the game its a waste of his endurance not to start him. As for edwar not being able to close with only two pitches. How many pitches does Mo have? Trevor Hoffman? Eric Gagne (in his prime)? ….I don’t think more than two. I highlight gagne and hoffman because they have/had the same two pitches as edwar. with humberto and ohlendorf hopefully, we will be flush with options anyway
PBL-A two pitch pitcher cant close unless he is special. I dont think Edwar falls into that category
Mike R: I don’t find his comments offensive because that’s his opinion. As a “latino” as you say you are, why do you?
im not say sheff is a racist, I wouldnt says he isnt either, but the way he plays the race card irresonsibly i think is just as bad as being racist. the thoughtlessness with which accuses others of being racist is reprehensible. the racial judgements he makes of others (latin players do what they are told, black players stand up for themselves) are at the very least borderline racist, and some of his opinions on the issue (black players can’t be racist) are just ignorant and absurd. his presence is a step back in any sort of push for racial equality
And here is your midnight snack:
Over the last 23 games, Yankees are 16-7
Boston is treading water at 12-11.
With 35 games to go, if both teams continue at that pace,
Yankees 95-67 Division Champs
Boston 94-68 1 game back & possibly not even the Wild Card
Sleep tight, ALL !
go nyr, that would be legitimate, but you have to agree, if you two pitches are good enough a player can close with two pitches. I’m not sure edwar’s two pitches are as good as gagne or hoffman but he still might be our best option to close after mo.
Kasey, its early to call Joba better than Hughes, you have no idea what they would be doing if their roles were reversed, starting as a rookie is much harder.
your two pitches*
Doesn’t Edwar have a slider too?? Edwar might be able to close if he can spot his pitches better. His pitches have a ton of movement, but sometimes, they move to the middle of the plate and you know what happens after that.
when Phil Hughes stops holding back he will hit 95 MPH on the radar, right now his stride is at 100 % because of his hamstring & arm action.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....mechanics/
this article explains most of it. Right now Joba is better, but all Phil has to do is adjust his mechanics. Ohlendorf did it and now is throwing 97 mph, McCutchen did it and is now at 95 MPH, Hughes will do it. I just hope they keep him away from Mussina showing him anything.
PBL: What if Sheffield is right? Latin players generally don’t live in the US, are happy to be in the USA, and basically will do anything just to be here? Where as American blacks don’t play by those rules. Does that make Sheffield a racist because he makes that observation? Which btw, is his opinion or his view of the world.
I disagree that he is a racist. It’s only people on this blog that call him so and then can’t support the accusation with anything. I believe Sheffield has the “cojones” to back up what he says and I respect him.
here’s a weird idea. wonder if anyone has written it yet. should mariano set up joba?
I don’t think it’s the best idea to have a closer who can’t pitch back to back games.
here’s a weirder one No. ^^^^
Joba is dominating but he is pitching 1 inning per outing. Hughes is tarting and it is much much harder.. you need more pitches at least 3, and Joba can just dominate for 1 inning with 2 pitches.
Joba if he is as good as people say asa starter he needs to start next yr. guys like him come along once every 40 yrs…
they have tons of good arms in the minors; sanchez, melancon, cox, whelan, ohlendorf, and others..
Great starters are worth there weight in gold..
Hughes is getting a education at 21, he is watching the best pitcher of the last 50 yrs at 45 get guys out at 91 mph……..
The Moose Is Cooked and The Mo Is Slow + . = f’ing troll. go back to the sons of sam horn blog where you can cry and moan about the sux. friggin morons. seattle cannot keep it up. i had the same thought as pete at about the same time. look at seattle’s schedule in sept. it is not a cake walk. jeff weaver cannot keep it up. he will return to being the pitcher we all know and love. last year was a fluke. earlier this year is the kind of pitcher he is. time will tell.
EDWAR STRUCK OUT VLAD TWICE. I BET HE COULD PITCH AS GOOD AS JOBA IF HE HAD THE SAME RULES AS HIM.
edwar struck out vlad twice. I bet anyone can pitch as good as joba if they had the same rules. It is not the same pitching every other day only one inning than pitching 2 1/3 innings and then warming up the next day, and pitching 2 innings the day afer.
sorry about the caps on the first comment.
“PBL-A two pitch pitcher cant close unless he is special. I dont think Edwar falls into that category”
That’s just ridiculous. Most closers aren’t special and most closers are closers because they only have two good pitches. If they had more, they’d be starters. The closer role is the most overrated in baseball.
I agree Adam.
big daddy in CT —
where did you get your education? You don’t even know what a troll is, look it up at wikipedia.
Assuming I am a troll in your internet parlance, you said nothing to back up Mo, which is why you are mad in the first place. I have been a Yankee fan for 20 years. That has nothing to do with Mo losing his talent. Your in denial if you don’t think his age has caught up to him. Mo’s glory days are behind us, unless…… unless… he starts throwing the change-up. Ever thought why he is not throwing it?? I can tell you, it’s because as soon as he starts he is admitting he can’t get hitters out like he used to and you know what else, his contact is up this year! Do you really think he wants the brass to remind him that he added a change-up because he was becoming ineffective? Doubtfully. So do the math, Mo is more concerned about his ego and contract than getting a save/win for the Yankee’s, otherwise we would have seen the change-up already. It’s a good change and we saw it in Spring Training. Well, wait..it is not a good change-up, it’s a GREAT change-up.
Hate me if you want but I speak the truth.