Game 133: Red Sox at Yankees
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Here are the lineups:
YANKEES
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Giambi 1B
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Clemens RHP (5-5, 4.34)
RED SOX
Lugo SS
Pedroia 2B
Ortiz DH
Lowell 3B
Youkilis 1B
Drew RF
Varitek C
Crisp CF
Hinske LF
Beckett RHP (16-5, 3.21)
Pregame chatter: Manny Ramirez (back) is out. … Giambi is 4 for 10 with two homers off Beckett, hence his inclusion. … The Yankees are 30-11 in their last 41 home games. … Clemens is 8-5 against Boston in his career, 6-5 as a Yankee but only 2-5 as a Yankee at the Stadium. … Shelley Duncan was named the Scranton player of the year. I may congratulate him but I’m afraid he’d tear my arm off.
Back with more later.
UPDATE, 6:05 p.m.: Just got out of the clubhouse, where Brian Cashman was entertaining questions. Here’s an overview:
Why Kennedy: “He was pitching the best at the time.”
Innings cap for Kennedy: “No, he’s below it. He had a heavy workload with USC and USA Baseball.”
So Kennedy could pitch every five days through the end of the season? “Yes.”
On Mike Mussina: “I firmly believe that he will prove to everybody that he can still be Mike Mussina. Going forward he’s going to be a good pitcher for us again. I have no doubt of his abilities.”
40-man roster: “We’ll need to make a move.”
(Just an aside, it won’t be Brackman because then you get into service time issues. They’ll make another move, Cashman said.)
Did he ever expect to have Hughes, Kennedy and Chamberlain in the majors? “No. There’s a lot of things that had to happen to get us to this point.”
Audio coming from this shortly.
UPDATE, 6:27 p.m.: Here’s the audio from Brian Cashman. He was in the middle of the clubhouse just before 6 p.m., so he was talking a little softly:
UPDATE, 7:11 p.m.: Just did a little research into Ian Kennedy’s workload. You may find this interesting:
2005: 117 innings at USC, 28 innings with Team USA for a total of 145
2006: 101.1 innings at USC, 2.2 with Staten Island and 30.1 in the Hawaii Winter League for a total of 134.1
2007: 146.1 in the minors.
Cashman won’t say what his limit is. But based on how they’ve developed other players, it’s around 175 or 180. So the Yankees can use him as a starter for a month without any issues.
UPDATE, 7:58 p.m.: Johnny Damon is the king of the ugly hit that kills you. Just a little dribbler into left, two runs score and now Beckett is closing in on 50 pitches in the second inning.
The game is not over yet, far from it. But the offense is back to grinding it out.
UPDATE, 8:10 p.m.: I haven’t had time to read any comments, but in case you missed it Manny Ramirez has a strained oblique and will be out tomorrow as well, if not for the next week.
UPDATE, 8:24 p.m.: The Yankees have seven hits, a walk and Boston made an error. All that and they have three runs. That’s letting Josh Beckett off the hook. They needed to step on his neck a little there after Matsui tripled.
That said, you’d sign up for 3-0 after three innings any day with Roger Clemens on the mound.
By the way, did you catch him drilling Dustin Pedroia in the first inning. That would be the same Dustin Pedroia who called A-Rod “cheap” for a hard slide back in May.
Coincidence? I think not. The Rocket is nothing if not a good teammate.
UPDATE 9:00 p.m.: Well, if you have to lose a no-hitter, there’s no shame in losing it on an upper-deck home run by a hitter like David Ortiz. Better than on an infield hit by some scrub.
Now it gets tricky, as a walk means the tying run comes to the plate. Torre has Vizcaino and Farnsworth if he needs them to get to Mo.
Regardless of who wins the division, Boston wants nothing to do with the Yankees in a playoff series. The Yankees hit Beckett and Matsuzaka and Pettitte, Wang and Clemens would be a lot to handle for them.
UPDATE, 9:27 p.m.: The Yankees have left eight runners on base, six in scoring position. They’ll be fortunate if it doesn’t come back to bite them. You have to give Beckett credit for keeping Boston in the game.
UPDATE, 9:48 p.m.: Huge, clutch hit for A-Rod there as it changes the rest of the game. The 13 hits allowed are a career-worst for Beckett.
Since winning Game 6 in 2003, Beckett has an 7.49 ERA against the Yanks in seven starts.
UPDATE, 9:58 p.m.: That homer was No. 508 for A-Rod, tying Frank Thomas for 20th place in history.
Meanwhile, Steve Phillips has been named the winner of the “Most Crestfallen Look In The Ballpark” contest here at the Stadium.
UPDATE, 10:03 p.m.: Kyle Farnsworth is in the game. Hope that squirrel is hiding.
UPDATE, 10:07 p.m.: Ian Kennedy will be here Thursday, not on the roster until Saturday.
UPDATE, 10:10 p.m.: Quick, tear up the Joba Rules!
You can’t do that. The kid’s arm is perhaps the most valuable thing in the organization. Tough dilemma for Torre. You want Vizcaino with the game close then Farnsworth with a three-run lead. But Farnsworth ultimately can’t be trusted in any critical situation. That much is evident.
I suspect the Joba Rules will be amended come the playoffs and the extra days off for travel.
UPDATE, 10:16 p.m.: This is where one pitch changs so much. Farnsworth’s wildness forced Mo into the game for a four-out save. He threw only 14 pitches yesterday, but these extra pitches could mean he’s not available for the day game tomorrow.
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8 games back again tonight!
Mike Lowell is batting clean up for the best team in the majors? What’s wrong with this picture?
OH BOY OH BOY No Manny, thats a little more comforting. Giambi at first…I wonder if he’ll play the whole game
More like 7. The Red Sox really do not have that great of a team. The Yankees have a better lineup, similar starting pitching, and a better bullpen.
Clemens will bang his fists!!!!
the yanks are a better team with Giambi on the DL.
Boston definitely has the better pitcher to night, but boy does that lineup look different without Manny. I know Varitek had the big hit last night, but once you get past Youkilis, the lineup gets really weak.
I like having Giambi in the lineup tonight, but I just hope that he never has to make a throw!
jaewon,
they’ll either be 6 back or 8 back after tonight. unless the game gets cancelled for some reason.
the perfect line up. torre is a genius. matsui needs to sit on the bench and to whom wver said the yankees are better with giambi on the dl, you’re not smart.
I have the internets again! Whee!
Anyway, would rather see Giambi DHing, but that’d mean no Matsui, and we need Matsui’s bat.
there’s no Manny. On that alone I’m tempted to celebrate, but I’ve been warned about counting my chickens.
Funny thing? If we win and Seattle loses, then we are again tied for the Wild Card lead.
Funny how that works.
Can’t wait to see Kennedy on Saturday.
Just ignore any Red Sox fans taunting. They will get banned soon enough. Pete can see the IPs of the trolls and ban them.
Anyways, I love this lineup. A little weak defensively at first, but with Clemens throwing a perfect game tonight… Hey I can dream! :p
And the Red Sox lineup is looking extra crappy tonight without Manny.
“The Red Sox really do not have that great of a team.”
they’re the best team in baseball on aug. 29 and they’ve been doing it the whole time with smoke and mirrors? really?
their lineup is nowhere near as good as the yankees, but their rotation and bullpen are better.
Go Yankees…good comment on Duncan, Pete. You’re probably right.
Kasey: Correction. Their bullpen WAS better.
(Jury’s still out on the rotation, but Petitte >>>>> Anyone on Boston)
Nice to see Giambi in the lineup. I wonder if we’ll be seeing him as a full time DH again next year with Matsui moving to 1B.
Pete, I fear Duncan might do more than rip your arm off if you congratulate him! “HEYYYY YOUUUU GUYYSSYSYSSS!!!”
I’m liking our lineup tonight, I think having Giambi in there will help us out against Beckett.
oh ya, good point. I meant 6
i’m a yanks fan and i have to say that those beantown bums are the best in mlb . becket is better than anybody in the a.l. this year and the boston pen has been great all season long . though not many players out there have the guts and heart that andy pettitte does . yanks line-up has been top 3 all season but i would rather have a great rotation than a great line-up any day of the week .
that being said …
i hate those beantown bums
Jason to whom has a name it is me. My rationalization you don’t fix what is not broke but I have no problem w/ him starting vs Beckett since he tatoos him career wise. Jason Giambi tonight good addition but that is what he is in 2007 an addition he’s not going to get full 1B duties over Betemit or Philips too much to risk on defense and too many pitchers that can shut you down coming up.
Dice-K plunked A-Rod last night. He’s the Yanks best hitter. So if Clemens was going to retaliate, he would plunk their best hitter. I guess Pedroia better watch out.
“Entertainment for the improvished”:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070829/ap_on_re_us/helmsley_s_pooch
Quan: No. I see Clemens plunking Papi.
Who needs to hear what the dirty Red Sox fans think. This is a Yankees blog.
Good point Rebecca. Usually if you retaliate you plunk the biggest name player from the other team.
in my opinion becket is easily the cy young winner this year . yanks have to grind those at-bats vs. becket tonight and wear him down and bring up that pitch count . giambi at first is a great choice for torre . this is our A line-up . damon in left , matsui as the dh . if there’s a lead bring in phillips at firstbase .
no joba tonight . thats a bummer . i hope if the yanks make the playoffs ” the rules of joba ” are tossed out the window .
Rebecca:
After reading Howard Bryant’s article on ESPN.COM about Ortiz, I think that might just be cruel; Ortiz is falling apart on his own. A 100 m.p.h. plunk from Joba might be the final blow.
*P.S. the full line up for tonight vs Beckett in 2007
173 ABS, 40 H, 11 2B, 6 HR, 35 BB
Bobby Abreu has the most hits vs Beckett, Cano is 2nd most XBH Johnny Damon*
“Good point Rebecca. Usually if you retaliate you plunk the biggest name player from the other team.”
I guess not everyone gets subtle humor, I suppose that’s why we have Spike T.V.
Ohhhh….kayyyyy…. Not sure what that meant, but thanks for using my quotes, I feel honored.
this is the ideal lineup at this point in the season. kudos to joe.
on beckett: was last year a fluke season or is this year a fluke season?
“in my opinion becket is easily the cy young winner this year .”
Hi There!
Manny out is huge but guys like Lowell and Youkilis tend to give Clemens trouble (fouling off pitches until he leaves one up). Clemens just needs to avoid the one really bad inning. I can’t see him giving up less than 3 runs but its not unreasonable to think the Yanks can score 5 tonight if they’re patient – or if they decide to swing at the first pitch fastball that Beckett throws every single time.
if only matsui learns 1st base, then we can keep damon and pick up abreu’s option…and of course, we all know that Arod is going to stay….then we are set for next year
Quan–Nah, that’d be horrible. I don’t want Joba hitting people. I’d rather have him K Ortiz on three pitches!
(the walk and hit last night? pure nerves. You could tell.)
I think both this year and last year were flukes for Beckett. He’s not as bad as his ERA of 5 from last year, but he’s not quite as good as his ERA of 3.21 this year. Par for the course for Beckett would be an ERA of around 4.00 or maybe a bit lower.
what’s up
hahaha eric bedard!
Brandon, you said they were a better team with Giambi on the DL. I have not heard him complain about being a part-time player. He did need to be in the lineup tonight and I found it to be perfect cause Damon needed to stay in it, with Giambi and Matsui resting sore knees. If Giambi stayed on the DL, would the yankees really be better off right now? He’s hit some dingers since he returned and has accepted his part-time role. A perfect compliment to an already great lineup.
The Red Sox of this year remind me of the feeling I had about the 2004 Yankees. On paper, there’s a lot to like.
Good starting pitching, good bullpen, good offense and they have been in first place all year.
However, similar to the ‘04 Yankees, something is missing.
I can’t put my finger on it but, there is something missing. I don’t fear the Red Sox at all this year.
If the Yankees win one more game in this series, that would be the third straight series win over the Red Sox. Impressive considering the Yankees were really shorthanded in the first two series they played the Red Sox.
The Red Sox have a good team. But, their place in the standings have as much to do with the putrid play by the Yankees in the first three months, than it does their sterling play.
Until the Red Sox faced a White Sox team that just mailed it in, they were a little over .500 for the past 3 months. Not exactly something a great team does in a season.
If the Yankees can get ANY positive performances from starters 3-5, they can make the playoffs.
If they do, things could get interesting.
Its all about pitching with the Yankees. When their starters pitch well, like Pettitte or Wang, they win. When their starters give up early runs, they are an entirely different ballclub.
Its why its important that Clemens, Hughes or Kennedy (2 of the 3 would be nice) have to step up here.
Especially, since the back end of the bullpen is MUCH better for the Yankees than it was earlier in the year.
Its why I so badly want the Yankees to find a way to the playoffs this year. If they can get in, this may be their best chance to win it in the past 3 years.
One last thing. Watching the Mariners-Angels game last night, One thought crept into my mind. What if George listened to Cashman and signed Vlad instead of Sheffield in 2004? How different would things be right now?
I know one thing, 2004 would have NEVER happened.
One move could have changed history.
Clemems needs to shut down the Soxs tonight period and I know Sir Plunks-Alot will pitch a big game vs Boston tonight, he does this we slap Beckett around we get number 2 in a row
Hey guys,
I heard you were talking about Cy Young candidates? What about me? I make quality starts almost everytime out in Triple A.
It’d be great to win tonight and put more pressure on Seattle and it would also be great to destroy Beckett and do some harm to his Cy Young chances!
Quan:
“Dice-K plunked A-Rod last night. He’s the Yanks best hitter. So if Clemens was going to retaliate, he would plunk their best hitter. I guess Pedroia better watch out.”
That is hilarious, because it is true.
Greg:
“Pete, I fear Duncan might do more than rip your arm off if you congratulate him! “HEYYYY YOUUUU GUYYSSYSYSSS!!!â€?”
I see your Sloth analogy, but I prefer my wife’s nickname for Shelley – WHITE LIGHTNING!”
SJ,
Furthermore, those early losses to the Sox were lost late in the game. Couple of 1-run losses as well.
Another win tonight against the “best team in baseball” will further validate Yankees as a contender. Not like we need to know, but there are still a lot of doubters out there.
Jason like I said I have no problem w/ him starting tonight at 1B just not everyday like your proposing because he is not an everyday player heck even Girardi said he rather go Betemit/Philips at 1B because Jason isn’t a fulltime player anymore.
Interesting line up by the BoSox. I would have put Youkilis at 3 and Papi at 4. Between the lead off two and Youkilis, have to think the odds are that at least one of them is on base when the 4 spot comes up.
this is by far my favorite lineup on paper, but, seems like everytime we have it, our offense tightens up. Hopfully we hit soon and often against backett and live up to the hype of the order
“(Jury’s still out on the rotation, but Petitte >>>>> Anyone on Boston)”
I wish that was true.
Matsui doesn’t strike me as the first base type. Something about his body style and movements…I don’t think he’d have great footwork at 1B.
the real problem is that once(if) the yankee’s get to the playoffs they will have to play games 1 and 2 in LA. I know we did pretty well vs Escobar last start and stayed with them in lackey game till we got to the bullpen, but does anyone have much confidence in that series?
If Giambi is starting solely because of 10 at-bats against Beckett than Torre is dumber than I thought. If he’s starting because Torre feels this is the best lineup we can put out there tonight then I’m fine with the move. Using 10 at-bats as a determining factor for building a lineup is everything that’s wrong with the use of statistics today in the mainstream.
This is why I love baseball.
You just never, ever know what’s going to happen. It’s why you are edge of the seat can’t move in the ninth inning, even if your team is down four runs.
I mean, does anyone remember, back that year when Seattle won 116 games? Well, they had this one game against Cleveland, they were up 12-3 in the ninth or something like that, and Cleveland WON!
Even just last year, there was a game Texas was up on the Yanks 9-0, and the Yanks came all the way back and WON that game.
No one thought the Tigers would not get the Central last year, and they nearly missed the playoffs all together (and Boston DID!)
It’s not even September first yet, and well, on July first, did ANYONE think we’d be where we are now? No, really?
–If– When the Yanks get into October, I guarantee there is NO team that will want to face the Yankees
Lowell is dangerous this year guys.. can’t deny that. His numbers are out of this world.
I traded him in Fantasy Baseball though…already had Braun and A-rod at third haha and don’t enjoy Red Sox on my squad.
I have this feeling that Hinske is going to be a pest tonight.
anything can happen in october, as we have been victims of
SJ, like the 04′ Yankees, what is missing from the Sox is that “effort” that gets the hits when you need them, the plays when you need them.
The team has benefited from some early season success of players who have become what their stats indicate they are – JD Drew, Lugo,. Their pitching has carried them but again the same situation. Beckett has pitched well, Dice K has been above average, not great, 38pitches is a step below Clemens.
“-If- When the Yanks get into October, I guarantee there is NO team that will want to face the Yankees”
Except the *Angels*
Yep … coulda woulda shoulda taken Vlad the Impailer. Vlad was way better than Sheff leading up to that move. Pretty good since it, too. I still don’t get that.
Damon looked sincerely amped rounding the bases after his HR last night. I hope Sox fans could remember that 6 weeks from now. All we need is the wild card (and we’re practially there) then we can run the table.
If Kennedy struggles on Saturday, can the squirrel get a chance at Mussina’s slot in the rotation? I’d try ANYthing – man or beast – before trying Igawa again.
keith
August 29th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
the real problem is that once(if) the yankee’s get to the playoffs they will have to play games 1 and 2 in LA. I know we did pretty well vs Escobar last start and stayed with them in lackey game till we got to the bullpen, but does anyone have much confidence in that series?
I do. It would pose a problem in the pitching rotation for LA. As bad as Santana has been on the road, you may have to move him into Game 2 at home. This means that only the Game 1 starter would be avaiable for Game 5, if necessary. Yankees can handle Lackey and although it is not obvious, they hit Escobar well last week.
I would take this match up and give it to the Yankees 3-2, although wouldn’t be surprised by a 3-1.
“in my opinion becket is easily the cy young winner this year”
Until i see evidence telling me otherwise, there is no reason to think that the greatest active pitcher in the game (Sanatana), who is having yet another ho-hum great season, will not win another Cy Young. Beckey has been very good and should get some votes, but not before Bedard or Haren and certainly not before Santana. Beckey basically been about the 4th or 5th best pitcher in the AL. What a shame the Yanks traded Vazquez, who, even after getting rocked his last time out by the BoSox is basically as good as Beckey this year without all the fanfare and praise.
I’m curious to see if the Cano hurts Beckett tonight
CAREER ABS vs BECKETT
Cano 13 ABS, 6 H, 3 BB 1 HR
Global Warming: I’m praying we’d be lucky enough not to have to face the Angels. Give me a team in the Central, please!
Ranting Guy: RALLY SQUIRREL! Arizona had Cirillo pitch the other day…maybe we should try one of our position players? Duncan would be lights out, of course….
I agree with SJ44 – the Red Sox team is lacking somewhere and the Yankee team could be dangerous. I like how they line up in the playoffs. Pettite, Wang and Clemens make for a dangerous 1-2-3 punch. Clemens would be the best 3rd starter in the playoffs and Wang and Pettite simply win. You can plug in a fourth starter if needed – but with Hughes, Kennedy, and maybe even Moose (maybe he just needs two weeks off) – we have options. Heck – if Kennedy comes in and performs, how nasty could a Hughes, Joba, Mariano relief squad be? Could that even be an option? Hughes would be amazing in relief for the playoffs in my opinion.
Anyway – we need to take at least 2 of 3 this series, so we’re off to a good start. A sweep and we still have an outside shot at the division.
Pepper Brooks,
I’ll worry about playoff matchups when we get there. It’s all a luck anyways, the best team hardly ever wins the World Series.
Making it to October doesn’t mean it’ll be easy to run the table. Yanks will definitely have to rise to the occasion and make it happen. Vintage Pettitte, Wang and Clemens performances would be key.
Here’s a dazzling display of last nites game (Chock Full O’ Nuts).
http://tinyurl.com/2y7xw4
Rebecca –
RALLY SQUIRREL!!! YER KILLIN’ ME!!!! L-O-freakin’-L!!!!!!
Would he look like sqrat from Ice Age?
“Heck – if Kennedy comes in and performs, how nasty could a Hughes, Joba, Mariano relief squad be? Could that even be an option?”
No it’s probably not possible. Kennedy is only going to make a start or two and regardless of how well he pitches(barring no hitter) will be pulled for Mussina/White/Igawa.
With Kennedys next start he will hit 150+ IP on the year. That would be a +50 Innings Pitched increase over one year, you don’t *gamble* with this arm over a couple of extra starts. This is a guy who can win a starting job next season coming out of Spring Training, not worth the risk.
Beckett is top 3 in the league with Bedard and Johan (even though his win/loss doesn’t show it).
Bedard has been almost total lights out in the second half…and he is going to win the AL strikeout crown.
But can you give it to Bedard when he plays for the O’s — it’s definitely a testament to his success that he has won taht many games for a bad team… but I have a feeling it will go to Beckett since he is high profile on the Sox.
Vasquez and Beckett are not having comparable seasons haha… no way. If Haren finishes strong, he has solid numbers as well.
Cy Young will go to Beckett, Bedard, Haren, or Santana. That is about as wide as it goes.
I’d rate the best starters in the AL this year like this:
1. Santana
2. Bedard
3. Escobar
4. Haren
5. Beckett
Cy Young= Santana. Cy Yuck= Jose Contreras.
Dr. A–Brilliant!
I love the newspaper cover with GO NUTS! Brilliant!
Can we give that squirrel a job?
Well I’m off to the game! GO YANKEES!! Don’t have too much fun without me.
Any word on how much leona helmsley left the squirrel in her will?
migames–I thought it was something like $12 million?
Acula, great slide show! Did I see a picture of you mixed in there?
7 leftys against becket….giambi at first is my only worry, he should be the dh
“Vasquez and Beckett are not having comparable seasons haha… no way.”
haha no way?
beckett: 160 innings, 147 hits, 152 Ks, 33 walks, 1.13 WHIP
vazquez: 175 innings, 155 hits, 157 Ks, 44 walks, 1.13 WHIP
if vazquez were wearing a yankee or sox uni people would be throwing his name around as a candidate for Cy Young. the one major difference is home run numbers (10, 26) – every other meaningful number says beckett and javy are having identical seasons. identical.
have fun jennifer. if you end up sitting in those nosebleeds, do like i used to and ask to check people’s tickets if they’re sitting in your area. usually gets a few laughs.
SJ,
It’s not so much what’s missing from the Red Sox as what the are going to war with.
The Red Sox can beat lower echelon teams like the White Sox, but teams like Kanas City and Baltimore can compete with them because they feature players at positions such as right field and shorstop that are every bit as good as Boston’s, if not better. Jason Varitek, JD Drew, Julio Lugo and Coco Crisp scare no one.
Beckett has been fantastic. The bullpen has been excellent. Other than that, Dice K, Schilling, Wakefield and Tavares are a combined 44 – 35. Not dominating at all and can be beaten on any given night of the week by any team in the league.
The Red Sox have yet to prove they can beat good teams. Heck, for all the Yankees’ flaws ( and they have many) they have beanten Boston 5 of the last 7. It’s little wonder why the lowly Kanasa City Royals have won 8 of their last 12 meetings against the Red Sox. On any given night, the Royals are just as good.
I think its too early to say how long Kennedy will be with the Yankees.
They are despertate for another dependable starter. If he pitches well, I can’t see them pulling him.
If they were just looking for a guy to make a start, they would have gone in another direction. They are looking for Kennedy (best case scenario) to pitch well for the next 3-4 starts, if possible.
If he doesn’t pitch well, they go in a different direction.
For example, if he goes 6 and gives up 2, even 3 runs against Tampa on Saturday, he’s making the next start in KC.
I don’t worry about the playoffs because the Yankees aren’t in the playoffs right now. Its not worth discussing right now.
Make no mistake though, if Ian Kennedy is successful, it greatly increases the Yankees chances to make the playoffs. They aren’t taking successful starters (even if its only one good start) out of the rotation at this point.
Yanks set to tee off on Beckett Tonite, i look for an explosive win.
Dr. Acula…slideshow…good stuff.
“in my opinion becket is easily the cy young winner this year .�
Hi There!”
LMAO Erik Bedard! I was about to say!
Bedard > Haren >>> Lackey > Beckett. Wonder how much attention Beckett would be getting if the roles were reversed and he was the one playing for the O’s? He isnt good enough to hold Bedard’s jock.
Anywho, three cheers for Damon in left again tonight! May it stay that way daily! Oh wait I forgot, reverse psychology seems to work on him. In that case, Damon sucks!
the 2004 Yankees did not have good starting pitching. and after Gordon and Rivera, they did not have a good bullpen either.
they had very BAD starting pitching. here is their rotation:
Moose – 4.59
Lieber – 4.33
Vazquez – 4.91
Brown – 4.09
Loaiza – 8.50
El Duque – 3.30 (but he got hurt in September)
their rotation stunk.
the 2004 Red Sox were a much better team than the 2004 Yankees. the only reason the ALCS went so oddly was because Schilling got hurt in the first game. if he didn’t, the Yankees probably lose in 6 games and while it would have been painful, it would hardly have been the stuff of legend.
Bob Michaels
August 29th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
Yanks set to tee off on Beckett Tonite, i look for an explosive win
I agree.
LAA with the early lead on Seattle. Let’s hope we can take advantage tonight.
I hope we can put a smack down on Beckett tonight. That will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back as far as us vs. the Red Sox this season. We’ve beaten their high priced Japanese import, we’ve beaten their wunderkind closer, we’ve beaten their old sack of (fill in the blank here) in Schilling, we crush their knuckleballer….if we can go out and smack around their Cy Young candidate tonight, a sweep and the division is not out of the question still this season.
SJ made a great point how until the Red Sox caught the White Sox who all traded in their bats for golf clubs already, they were playing slightly above .500.
After this series, they play Baltimore/Toronto/Baltimore again which means they are facing better starting pitching than the Devil Rays ever could provide. They have to beat Bedard 2 times and Hallyday once in the Toronto series. That’s 3 tough games.
We get this thing to 5 games before they leave town, I don’t think it’s out of the question that we can go into Boston 3 back in mid-September.
I’m still going for the division. I think it’s important to make the playoffs, but I also think it’s important to get that extra home game wherever you can get it if you do get in. As a wild card, we’d most likely have to go to Anaheim for games 1&2. I’d much rather play Cleveland/Detroit at home.
Go for the jugular, the Red Sox aren’t unbeatable. They’re a very good team, but with all the games we still have left to play against them, anything is possible. Especially if Manny is getting banged up or possibly even cranky that he still has to give 100% at this point of the season. Manny likes to take some time off in Sept. He does it every season.
Beat Beckett tonight. Get it done.
_saucy August 29th, 2007 at 5:00 pm_
_Acula, great slide show! Did I see a picture of you mixed in there?_
Yup, I’m the sexy guy ‘da red head is drooling overt
Thanks Guys!!
You’re all true teammates!!
Dr A–
When you’re a Yankee fan, it’s family!
Let’s go Angels. sweep those mariners out to sea.
the Red Sox are good. i think they put a graphic up last night that showed the Red Sox have a team era of 3.71??
if the yankees had that, they’d be undefeated.
yankee team era is 4.55
And just as I click to post my last post Bedard pulls out of the weekend start against the Red Sox with a strained oblique. They’re calling up a rookie/pitching machine to start against Boston on Saturday.
Thanks Baltimore. They’ve really screwed us this season, haven’t they?
I agree with the SJ ‘effort’ comment. And the Vlad thing. I think that the thing the Sox are missing this year is team unity. I really think that guys like JD Drew and Crisp are playing for themselves, this year the Yankees seem to be playing for eachother. See the reaction to the ARod beaning.
That said, if they get into the playoffs, they’ll scare other teams. And front offices are already scared that draft picks are starting to contribute for the team. Then we can go get a high prices free agent or two, not 9 guys on the field every night.
And another thing, notice how the Red Sox only have two regulars from their farm? We have 5.
Joe L–Ugh, I don’t need that sort of news before a game starts!
I think Baltimore and Anaheim have teamed up to form a secret Yankee-Destroying society…
Hmm I just hope Manny sits out again tomorrow. He (and Big Poopi) slaughters Wang
Giambi 4/10 against Beckett? Tonight he’ll be 0/3; ditto for Cano.
IMO, Kennedy is a quick fix for Moose’s next start. I honestly believe the Yanks need to find another pitcher to take innings going further if Mussina cant figure out how to throw again. Putting faith in a rookie who has already pitched a bunch of innings over what his current best has been to help save the season has been is a risk. But they need to take risks to make the playoffs. Do we want to risk the future of our now #1 prospect for a chance at the playoffs? Not an easy decision. Glad I dont have to make it. But I trust the FO and I am really looking forward to Saturday to see what he can do.
gooo yanks
Minor League News:
The Yankees Gulf Coast (Rookie) League team took Game 1 of the Best of 3 Championship Series today with an 11-4 win over the Dodgers.
The Yankees had to win a one game playoff with the Twins yesterday to advance to the Championship game.
Jesus Montero hit a HR yesterday and had two more hits today to key the wins.
Game 2 is tomorrow.
not a single game with the angels goes by that i don’t think of the vlad/sheff signings. if only cashman had his way back then.
but i guess you could argue this team may not have gotten a rod, or abreau, or damon etc. etc.
i guess you have to move on from that stuff. ok, i’m moving on
Thought everyone would enjoy this post. Blog breaks down the players with the best chance to break DiMaggio’s hit record, both next year and then for career. Interestingly enough, the much discussed Robby Cano is listed 3rd.
Enjoy and lets get another W tonight.
http://vegaswatch.blogspot.com.....treak.html
Isnt Kennedy being added to the 40 man roster prior to the first of September? That makes him eligible for the playoffs. With that in mind I think Cashman must be thinking of giving Ian a chance to finish off the month and possibly help in October or he would of just added him saturday sept.1.
Just my opinion but everytime we have a cant miss line up we get shut down. Hopefully they can do to Beckett what they did to him last year. That 1 or 2 innings of 10 runs. I BELIEVE PHILLIPS TOOK HIM DEEP THAT GAME.
With Manny out, who does Clemens drill in the first inning ? I’d say Big Papi….then the benches get warned and when Beck@$$ retaliates, the batter does NOTHING and the BoSox go DOWN ! It worked for the Blue Jays, why can’t WE do it ? ( and kasey, calm down,,,,you too SJ44,,,I am 99% kidding ! ) OUT !
Uh oh. Dude on ESPN just said:
“coming up on Sportscenter, see how the Joba rules could change…”
I’m not sure Clemens drills anyone…but if he does, I’d bet he hits their 3B.
Yes SOS, the Bino and Phillips both went ya ya off Joshy last year
SJ,
Thanks for the minor league info. If you catch wind of any Yankee prospects or staff being sent to Hawaii Winter Baseball, can you post the info here? Schedule is up with 1st pitch on Sept. 29, but no rosters yet. Last year was kind of odd. Boston & Yankees had prospects on the same team with Boston coaches and Yankee trainers.
The HWB site follows its alumni (i.e. Joba), and today there’s a link to an article about Kennedy getting the call.
Thanks in advance.
SJ44: “I can’t put my finger on it but, there is something missing. I don’t fear the Red Sox at all this year.”
I’m a big time Red Sox fan (*gasp*), just checking out how things are looking on the other side, and I gotta tell you that I agree in part with that, and I’ll tell you what this underlying weakness could be for the Red Sox: clutch hitting.
Record when trailing after 6 innings: 9-46
…after 7 innings: 7-47
…after 8 innings: 2-45
Certainly says a lot. Bobby Kielty came in and did quite a good job at switching things up a little bit. It seemed like the same guys were coming up in big situations over and over and not producing. In his last eight games, Kielty is 6 for 15 with 8 RBI. But, he left last night’s game with lower back soreness. Ironically it happened when he took a home run away and slammed into the right field bullpen wall at Fenway in his first game on the Red Sox.
The key to tonight’s game on our side is to score runs early. As bad as the Red Sox’s record is when trailing late, it’s as good when leading late. When leading after 7 innings, the Red Sox have a 72-3 record.
By the way, Joba looked pretty good last night. Had trouble finding the zone in the first at-bat, but he’s got a devastating breaking ball. If he goes into the rotation next year, I’d enjoy watching him go up against Clay Buchholz.
Mel,
No problem, will do.
Rebecca,
We knew that at some point we’d have to take the wrapper off the shiny new toy, right?
I say he be limited to being used 2x in a series, never more than 2 nights in a row, etc. Something a little more flexible than what’s being mandated right now. You also run some other guys ragged because you want to save your bullets or you use him in a blowout because you want to have him available in 2 days.
The Yankees want to protect him, but they also know it’s getting beyond ridiculous.
Mel–Yea, I completely understand, but my fear is, you change them a little bit, and what’s to say not a little bit more, so on and on until they’re practically non-existant?
Remember, this is Torre managing…
The 2004 red sox were much scarier than this years team. The biggest difference is their hitting. They had Bill Mueller as a #9 hitter and I believe he won the batting title that year. Not to mention Pedro,shcill and Lowe. I still think if it wasnt for that powereful offense(even with that excellent pitching staff)we would have prevailed. Correct me if im wrong,we had the lead late in game 4 and 5.
i try not to remember the 2004 season and much less that series.
As much as I cant stand the Angels, I have to thank them for what they have been doing to the mariners this week.
UP 4-2 IN THE 6TH
Would you rather face Seattle in the playoffs(IF THEY WIN DIVISION OFFCOARSE)or the Anaheim for some sweet revenge?
S.o.S.27:
I know you guys had the lead in Game 4. Millar walked and Dave Roberts pinch-ran for him, stole second, then scored on a Bill Mueller base hit to tie the game. I remember thinking Game 5 was pretty much a replay of game 4. Game 4 was 4-3 in the 9th when BOS tied it, then game 5 was 4-2 in the 8th when the Sox tied it then won in the 14th.
Bedard,
The Yankees starting pitching in 2004 was very mediocre but it wasn’t awful. Loaiza’s stats were mostly with the White Sox. Vazquez had a great first half and then melted down. The injury to El Duque killed the Yanks.
I was scared to death of the Red Sox that year because with Schilling and Pedro they were built for the playoffs. The injury to Schilling hurt the Sox but the lack of 100% Hernandez hurt us.
The Red Sox also were the deeper team. The Yankees top talent was better but Boston had tough role players. The rain out of game 3 forcing 5 games in a row without an off day was advantage to the Sox.
For example, Torre might have gone to Rivera to start the 8th in game 5 if there was an off day afterwards. With the Yanks having a 2 run lead entering that inning, I’m confident after a blown save the night before Mo would have closed it out. Joe had to worry about a possible game the next day and had to go to Gordon. We know what happened.
Games 4 and 5 could have gone either way. Boston proved to be the better team in a short series and at the end of the season but over 162 games the Yankees were the better team.
migames,
I feel ya. Heres a question for you and anyone else who wants to jump in. If you had to change an outcome of one of 2 series 2004 vs. sox or 2001 vs. d-backs.Witch one would you change? I hate to say it but I would probably go with 2001.Barely.
SOS
We were up 1 in the 9th in game 4 and the Roberts stolen base led to Boston tying the game. We had a 2 run lead in the 8th in game 5. A-Rod failed to get a runner in from third with what would have been a huge insurance run with 1 out. Gordon gave up a lead-off homer to Ortiz, then got in a jam and Mo was brought in and allowed a sac fly that tied the game. Poorly managed by Torre imo as Mo should have been starting the 8th imo.
Didnt Oelerud get hurt early in the series and we had to use Clark, who struck out everytime up? I think he was key that series to our success.
S.o.S,
I’d say that I’d change the outcome of the 2004 series. Because if Boston doesn’t make it to the series, they don’t win the series. The curse would live on and the fans wouldn’t be so insufferable (and before you red sox fans start flaming me, I’m not the only one who thinks so. Your own Kevin Winters can’t stand the pink hats)
Giambi 4/10 against Beckett? Tonight he’ll be 0/3; ditto for Cano..
Good news,
Manny Ramirez is out for the rest of the series with a strained oblique. They are hoping he is back for the weekend series against Baltimore but not looking good. A strained oblique is definitley worse than a stiff back.
rebecca,
what did espn say about the joba rules being changed?
The way the Cardinals played in the World Series in 2004, if the Yankees beat the Sox, then I’m sure the Yankees would have steam-rolled over them also. Hard to tell. A lot of people were expecting the Red Sox to be burnt out after the ALCS, but instead it was the Cards that were burnt out. Maybe St. Louis would win one or maybe two, but they just didn’t have it.
SOS: 2004.
Beating Boston really does mean that much more…
In 2001, after all that happened that September, that we MADE the World Series was testament enough to the resilliency of that team.
And even in the World Series, WE DIDN’T CHOKE! We lost the first two games to the two best pitchers THAT YEAR. We won games four and five in the most heartpounding way imanginable…and even Game Seven went down to the wire.
It really was a magical series, especially if you look at it objectively.
In 2004 we choked, plain and simple, and I would do many things to change that.
Seattle’s down 4-2 going into the bottom of the 7th. We could have great news by the end of the night!
Last Night’s Squirrel: Nothing of any importance. Just ‘what ifs’.
“they’re the best team in baseball on aug. 29 and they’ve been doing it the whole time with smoke and mirrors? really?”
Kasey, the statement by the above poster really isn’t too far off the mark. The Sux clearly have the best record, but if you look specifically at records since the break the story is quite a bit different. The Yankees are the best since the break, even with their ’suspect pitching.’
The Yanks clearly have a much much better offense than Boston. Defensively we are very very competitive with a gold glove at every infield position an Melky anchoring the outfield.
The pen? I would have given ya this one prior to Gagne, but he really has disrupted that aspect of the Sux game. They ‘fixed’ the one thing that wasn’t broke. Guess what? Now its broke. Without these oppressive Chamberlain rules, the nod would definitely go to the Yanks. I think its more of a wash at this point with the Yanks improving this aspect of their game immeasurably and the Sux taking it down a notch.
Starting Pitching? The difference isn’t nearly as vast as you would believe. Petitte is pitching as well as if not better than any of their starters right now. Wang is rebounding. The real question is whether we have a reliable 3rd and 4th pitcher for the playoffs. I’m not sold on this Dice guy. While he was certainly better than the other Japanese pitcher the yanks got, he runs hot and cold. Further, we have absolutely slaughtered the guy this year. Schilling and the Rocket are a wash at this point. Beckett is their ace, and despite his absolute win total, has proven to be very hittable during the season.
I would much rather face these guys in a short series than a Detroit or LAA.
Going into the post-season record means little as the team that gets hot has an enormous advantage. As we know, these things can turn very very quickly, which is why the Yanks have an excellent chance at winning a Championship, but realize the division is still very much in play.
BJ
Thanks YankeeJosh,
Now Im going to have to skip watching the game tonight and make an appointment with my shrink. It hurts just reading it let alone envisioning it in my head.
I changed my mind change 2004, anything is better than sox winning one.
good ol espn hype machine
The reason why I was leaning towards 2001 was it was the ninth inning,last game,Mo on the mound and a damn broken bat crap hit. It would of been 4 years in a row and would have put us with the A’s in the 70’s and our own teams as the only ones to accomplish that.
Gagne thinks he was getting shelled because he was tipping his pitches.
Let’s go *Mike Scioscia*, throw Shields in there for another 2 innings.
That’s interesting about Brackman…I didn’t realize putting him on the 60 day DL (which I assume is what Peter asked) would create service time issues. That could be a problem, then…Brower could probably get DFA to make room for Kennedy, but who goes to make room for Doug when he comes off the 60 day DL? Villone, if they don’t expect him to be healthy?
5-2 angels, top 8
“IMO, Kennedy is a quick fix for Moose’s next start. I honestly believe the Yanks need to find another pitcher to take innings going further if Mussina cant figure out how to throw again.”
I do not share the almost universal exuberance on this board by this move. Minor league call ups statistically are a crap shoot no matter what they are doing in the minors. I could list literally 1000’s of moves that didn’t work out despite terrific minor league stats and being ‘ready.’ Chamberlain is the incredible exception to the rule.
We have gone through many many starters this year that excelled in the minors only to get clobbered here in the bigz. Not one minor league starter call up has really worked out this year. Not even one.
Kennedy is exciting because like the rest, he is young and an alternative. The odds are stacked against him being successful. I would love nothing more than to find another Joba, but there is no rational reason to expect to win the lottery twice in one season. The move is more about Moose than it is about kennedy.
I would keep Moose out there as painful as that statement may be to some here.
BJ
S.O.S: You know, I didn’t think it then (and how could I), but I sorta do feel like it was four years in a row. I mean, we beat Seattle in Five games and they won 116!
The Yankees could have easily packed it in after 9/11, but they didn’t. They continued to play their heart out and took it all the way to game seven–and Arizona was by far the better team that year (at least, from what I remember).
I would like to hope though that 2007 is the start of something else…
More than anything 2004 was destiny. I can recall 2 things from the top of my mind ..
1) Game 4. Yanks leading by 1 Ruben Sierra on 1st. Tony Clark ground rule doubled to right. I have never seen a ball hit the wall on its way up after bouncing go into the stands. I to this day can’t understand how it did not bounce back on to the field after hitting the wall. Ruben would have easily scored if it stayed in the park.
2) The rain in Boston. Boston was going all out in the 4th game because it was do or die for the. But it was different for us. We couldn’t use up everybody for one game. Then the rain washes up a game and give the sox additional time to rest.
In addition to fate, we did not deserve to win it that year. Kevin Brown, Javier Vazquez, Jon Lieber and I dont even remember who the other 2 guys were. Yuck.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html
Cool, cool piece on Joba.
Wow…Cashman said Kennedy is under his innings cap and could start the rest of the year…so much for the “adding 40 innings per year” theory.
The Angels are breaking it open. 6-2 in the 8th with 2 on and no outs.
Big Johnson,
I respect your opinion, but did you not see Moose on the mound Monday? If it was painful for us to see a respected vet go through that, what must it have been like for him?
Torre chose to do the right thing by taking him out, even though it ran the risk of burning the bullpen. (Thank you Andy for limiting the use).
I also think that it was the right move to keep him on the 25-man. At least he can retain some of his dignity. He obviously knows how to pitch, but at this point the Yankees don’t have the luxury of time for him to figure it out. No one here has forgotten what Moose has done for the team the last 6 years.
Hey, LAA is up 6-2 in the 8th on Seattle, with a man on and one out.
Never thought I’d be rooting for the Angels here, but it looks like they’re doing us quite the favor.
Rebecca,
I guess I looked at it selfishly,that with all that went on that year,it would be something that was just meant to be won by the YANKS. But your right, that team represented the city nicely with its never quit attitude.Again,I was selfish and spoiled.
Angels up 6-2 in the 8th
Lets go yankees!! Time to get whats rightfully ours, a playoff birth.
i’m going to saturday’s game woo hoo
The Angels want to play us so bad in October. They’re doing everything they can to get us into the playoffs.
Josh Beckett. 2003 World Series anyone?
I think the Weaver’s are on Yankee payroll. They have done their best to help us.
Meanwhile, Rick White and his ugly mustache is in for mop-up duty with the Mariners. Didn’t the Yankees pick that dude up off the scrao heap a coupl years ago to munch some middle innings? This is a perpetual issue for the Yankees- always being a few arms short in the pen.
Think about the guys the Sox have pitched this year in spot start/low-leverage relief situations compared to ours (Gabbard, Kyle Snyder, Delcarmen, Timlin, Lopez, hell even Pineiro vs. Meyers, Henn, Villone, Brower, Colter Bean, Karstens, Clippard, Bruney, Igawa, etc).
Actually just looked it up and White never pitched for us but it seems like he did. I was thinking of Gabe White.
And how about these guys, from 2004 alone, backing up a weak starting rotation?: Brad Halsey, Alex Graman, Donovan Osborne, Bret Prinz, Jorge DePaula, Sam Marsonek, Juan Padilla, Felix Herdidia. Man I hope the pitching depth in the minors pans out.
“Josh Beckett. 2003 World Series anyone?”
Boston Red Sox. 2003 ALCS anyone?
Nice photos Dr A. I’ve been planning on headin over next yr to catch a game at the stadium before it is gone forever. Those photos made me want to jump on a plane right now.
With Seattle on the ropes (on a Hernandez start) bodes well for us. Last night they knocked the Angels starter out in the 1st inning and couldnt seal the deal. I think we have the big game killer instinct to take this race.
Good one Rocco. I don’t know a come back from that one.
There was some historic ALCS in 2004 but I don’t know if you’d remember it.
1) among things i try to never, ever think about: the implications of the sheffield-over-vlad signing and 2004. not fun to see them both in the same thread.
2) BJ, good post regarding the red sox. i think their pitching is superior to the yankees, as beckett has been better than any yankees starter this year and dice k is a very good #2. pettitte’s been great lately, but beckett’s been pretty great for most of the year. certainly, the argument is there to be made either way, but if the yankees were really that much better than the red sox, they wouldn’t be 7 back on aug. 29. the yankees played terribly for the first two months of the season, even after the injuries had healed. they’ve also received nothing resembling consistency from the 3-5 spots in the rotation all year long. i’m not saying boston’s going to win the world series (my personal prediction is anaheim), but they’re a good team. good enough that they’ve got a 7 game lead in their division and haven’t really been in any danger of losing it in almost four months.
Angels have bases loaded one out.
It’s almost GAME TIME!!
Daisuke hit A-Rod last night. Will Clemens retaliate? He’s thrown at his own son before so it’s a good possibility.
“A hundred and ninety-two wins for number 21
But now he’s just number 22
And just one more win to pass Cy Young
But now he’s just number 22
Was number 21 throwing heat for the fans
Or was he really Will McDonough’s “Texas Con Man�?
Another rocket relaunch or a bomb in the Bronx
Say hey, so long, see you soon 22″
With Torre’s pitcher abuse… who woulda thunk it would have been Mussina’s arm to fall off.
Anyway… I suggested several times that Joba’s entrance music be “Jesus Christ Superstar”. Well, I changed my mind.
I think it should be Bill Goldberg’s theme now.
Vlad had question marks his free agent year. He had a bad back and noone knew if it would hold up. Secondly there were rumors that he either didnt want to go and play in new york or didnt have the make up for it.
I would have loved to have him, but at the time it was a risk.
If someone asked you which major league pitchers are on performance enhancing drugs, how many of you would think of Clemens as a possibility? He’s a 45 year old power pitcher who looks like a physical freak.
I’m not at all saying he is on HGH, but it’s possible. No one ever talks about pitchers who use performance enhancing drugs.
“Good one Rocco. I don’t know a come back from that one.
There was some historic ALCS in 2004 but I don’t know if you’d remember it.”
I remember it… do you remember the 86 years before 2004? Most Red Sox fans seem to forget about that… You go on ignore now.
Sorry for feeding the trolls.
“I respect your opinion, but did you not see Moose on the mound Monday?”
I did see it and fully acknowledge he hasn’t pitched well of late. Just because a pitcher is pitching lousy doesn’t mean there is a better alternative. Up until this extremely rough 3 losses, Moose was our most consistent pitcher, a statement that is inherently true but is likely to elicit calls of ‘Big Johnson you are crazy!” Moose has been effective for the majority of the season. A minor leaguer is a crapshoot at best. Pick your poison. The Yanks have reluctantly chosen Kennedy. There is very little guarantee that he will do better than Moose. In fact we have seen what Karstens, Desalvo have done. Their future ace has also been very suspect as well. All of these pitchers had one thing in common, minor league excellence. Why should Kennedy do any better? If he does, we caught lightning in a bottle twice this season, an extremely unlikely scenario.
Using Kennedy at this point is a desperation move, one that we arguably need to make (although I disagree with it), but one that is being made out of perceived necessity. As bad as Moose has been of late, I believe he can still be successful if he embraces the fact that he no longer can throw heat, something he has been unable to do for a long time, but hasn’t accepted.
“Torre chose to do the right thing by taking him out, even though it ran the risk of burning the bullpen.”
I don’t believe for one second that this was Torre’s decision. That isn’t to say that he fought it tooth and nail, but I guarantee you it came from above. Torre has little knowledge of what goes on in the farm as he is preoccupied, rightfully so, with his major league club.
“No one here has forgotten what Moose has done for the team the last 6 years.”
Torre has. He demonstrated an unfathomable amount of disrespect the other night when he relegated Moose to mop up man when he was clearly suffering and incapable of even ‘taking one for the team.’
BJ
8-2 Angles now!
To quote their play-by-play guy, the mariners are “unraveling before our eyes!”
After all of the trouble that the Angels have caused us in the past it’s refreshing to see them helping us.
How could I remember it? I wasn’t alive, so why would I care?
Besides, I’m not one to live in the past anyways. Yankees have 26 World Championships, Red Sox are the only team in baseball history to come back from 3-0 in the playoffs and won arguably the most historic championship in baseball history. At least it was the most celebrated. Who cares?
I don’t see any Ruths or Mantles on the Yankees and I Don’t see any (Cy) Youngs or Williams on the Red Sox. All I see is the best team in the majors and a team that’s 7 games back.
8-2, Angels, with their TBS (Thousand-Bee-Sting) offense!
*Welcome to the Major Leagues, Ichiro & Co.*!
With Beckett pitching, what a shame that we won’t be able to take advantage of this.
Alright, I’m out. I’m gonna go watch the game with my Yankee fan friends (I live in NY).
Have a good game all! It’s the fun of the game that counts.
If someone asked you which major league pitchers are eating to many donuts, how many of you would think of Schilling as a possibility? He’s a 39 year old professional athlete who looks like a fat pig.
I’m not at all saying he is on Krispy Kreme, but it’s Dunk’n Donuts is also possible. No one ever talks about pitchers who are kooks.
ok i’ll bite….
“Besides, I’m not one to live in the past anyways.”
Then why bring up the 2003 world series and 2004 ALCS? Try again.
Way to go Giambi!
lol Kay starts out awesome… 91 mph breaking ball!
nice play giambi!
Who says we need Andy Phillips!!!??
Giambino is a vacume cleaner at 1st and he’s got twinkle-toes
GIAMBI!!
In no way was Torre disrespecting Mussina by leaving him out there. Relax.
Kay said 1st pitch was a fastball?! 91mph no movement… idiot.
NICE PLAY GIAMBINO!
Andy Phillips who?
Okay, Quan, you totally called it.
Looks like that got away from Roger
hahahahh
Cool.
Somebody here called it!
hahaha pedroia got plunked
who called that in the other blog?
Angles win!
But no warning…meaning that if the Red Sox hit the Yanks again…they are in the power position.
Brian M-
Thanks Dude!
Much appreciated.
Bah….he totally should’ve drilled Big Poopi instead
Especially when there’s no Manny behind Poopi
I missed it…ROGER DRILLED SOMEONE ? did it look like it hurt him AND was intentional ???
the rat gets caught stealing
Thanks, however, I was joking, saying that Pedroia is their best hitter now so Clemens would hit him in retaliation for A Rod getting hit; I guess Roger really thinks so.
Cool again.
You have to hand it to Clemens, getting his retaliation in with Ortiz is on deck.
Angles win!
God is indeed a Yankee
catch the dang ball jorgy
No Warning ? DANG !
Limey Yankee
August 29th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
hahaha pedroia got plunked
who called that in the other blog?
ME !
Have to hand it to the Rocket. Drills Pedroia, and then Pedroia’s caught stealing. And Papi pops out. He knows what he’s doing.
an ortiz K would have been so much better. 12 pitches though… lets get 7 from rocket tonight
Looks like Rocket has it with him tonight. The offense just needs to hit a couple HR off Beckett like last year and we’ll be fine.
Could someone who saw Giambi’s play at first tell me:
If Phillips had made the same play, how many comments would we see along the lines of “You see, defense is important! Giambi couldn’t have made that play!”
beckett throws a fastball right over with the first pitch almost every time…. look for it, and rip it
Jeremy–I would have probably been one of those people.
jeremy, you are saying that phillips is not an upgrade at first base over giambi? if not, then i dont see what your point is.
Tell me ESPN doesn’t hate the Yankees. They have dumb arse phillips on this game…Is there no justice in this world?
do you think he had a shot at a triple if he tried?
Pepper…. im actually glad I’m watching NESN in that case.
Good job Captain Clutch!
Time for Abreu to drill another double, and Arod HR, and we’ll be up by 3 in no time.
CU… I was thinking the exact same thing. He said to himself “double” as soon as he hit and it didnt even run hard. not like jeter.
Your are lucky.. Guess I am going to log into MLB.TV..
oh well, abreu wouldn’t have gotten him home from third anyway
first pitch curve coming to arod… lets go alex
nope, good cut though
A-Rod will single
hey, i havent used MLB.tv in a while. unfortunately, i am going to be away from home Saturday.
does anybody know if mlb.tv typically carries all the games on weekends? I want to watch Kennedy.
I think MLB.TV usually blocks out saturday day games
Nooooooo~
Boston Dave,
Phillips is a defensive upgrade over Giambi, although less of an upgrade than most people seem to think.
My point is that there’s an assumption that Phillips makes a wide range of plays every day that Giambi could not make, when in fact, if you give Giambi the same opportunities, he would probably make a similar number of plays.
A lot of commenters here are in love with Phillips, just as many people were in love with Mientkiewicz, because of this kind of assumption, when in fact Phillips drags the team down by being a poor hitter and an overrated fielder.
Not if it is early… Sucky Fox sports blacks out the games.
mlb.tv games on saturdays are blacked out by FOX
They usually block them out on Saturday because of Fox having the rights to them or something. So whatever region you are in while determine what game you will see. Example: I’m in Iowa, so I always see the Cubs. But you can usually watch them through a program called Sopcast. This site has the schedules: http://www.myp2p.eu/MLB.htm
Hope that makes sense and helps.
Hey Boston Dave and other out-of-towners…
Check out http://myp2p.eu/MLB.htm
On the left download the program called Sopcast.
Its basically MLB.tv for free.
Quality isnt as good but it works.
Pains me to read that Jeter isn’t looking right. I can’t remember a year with more injuries or guys playing through injuries.
Jeremy, if Mientkiewicz were back, I’d agree that they don’t really need him. however, i think you are WAY off when you say that giambi makes a similar number of plays. if people have high expectations of phillips, thats the problem. i think he has met the yankees expectations.
TimBX… if that works. I owe you one!
Thanks!!
Luthien, lol
LOL eric stinky has a mohawk
The Yankees are playing Tampa on Saturday. I don’t think that’s the FOX game.
and thanks to Luthien. that rocks!
Just for my clarification, how is Phillips a poor hitter if he is batting 290? He had a crucial hit in last night’s game. I know he is low in power but it seems to me from the games I have seen he goes all out and we win. Giambi is great but he cannot handle the physical demands of playing at first every day. But I still don’t understand the rancor on Phillips…
Luthien: Off topic, but are you a Tolkien fan?
Boston(Sucks) Dave-
Im watching the game now on Sopcast right now NESN broadcast. There are 4 links the first 3 didnt work, so you gotta click around sometimes. For free, you’ll take it right?
Rebecca: Absolutely love Tolkien. Beren and Luthien is probably one of my favorite from him. The stuff leading up to the War of the Ring I thought is much more interesting. Surprised someone actually recognized the name.
Andy’s pal – if people want to say Andy isnt a great hitter, that’s fine and on target. the point is, the yankees were probably hoping for a .280 hitter who would play sound defense. they got a .290 hitter with sound defense. he has met expectations.
TimBX, absolutely… that is awesome. cant believe i never knew about that. thanks.
For those who missed it, Andy Phillips had 23 assists in 533 innings at first base last year. Jason had 11 in 480 innings. Based on that (and using assists as a proxy for “tough” plays), Andy clearly gets to more balls.
But more importantly, it demonstrttes that first baseman just dont’ get that many fielding chances other than pretty easy ones that even Giambi can handle. It’s like one every other game.
EY
August 29th, 2007 at 7:16 pm
Looks like Rocket has it with him tonight. The offense just needs to hit a couple HR off Beckett like last year and we’ll be fine.
…and the 8 straight balls tells us ???
31 after 2… not bad considering the walks. keep it up rocket.
Phillips is a poor hitter because his full line is .289/.326/.372. His average is meaningless due to his lack of power and inability to draw walks. As a first baseman, he has an sOPS+ of 78. That means he’s a 22% worse hitter, by OPS, than a league-average first baseman.
There are certain things we can debate about Phillips, like whether his defense is really that good, or how often he should play first due to Giambi’s worse defense and problems staying healthy (good point btw), but it’s really not debatable that Phillips is a bad hitter. I’m not saying he should never set foot on the field again, but that it hurts the team to make him the starting 1B every day if Giambi has nowhere else to play.
4 years later, we still can’t solve Beckett.
I guess nobody can.
Michael T, i dont think assists is enough to gauge number of tough plays. unfortunately there isnt really a perfect stat for defense. you jsut have to watch the games. torii hunters diving catches look the same on paper as a popup to damon. i wish i were wrong, but giambi is a below average defensive 1B and the yankees decided they wanted defense at that position (hence mientkiewicz and to a degree phillips).
8 str8 balls tells us Clemens won’t be pitching a perfect game tonight. Probably not a shut-out either so we better get to work on Beckett.
And my last word on Andy I promise, but could his defenders please stop pointing to batting average as a mark of his offensive prowess. Even the mainstream media and nitwits like Joe Morgan don’t really use it any more. The guy has a 326 OBP/ 372 SLG. That is bad, even for a utility infielder let alone a first baseman on a pennant contender. We are talking Jason Tyner Cristian Guzman bad.
A bear and a rabbit see a genie in the forest.
The bear asks the genie to make all other bears in his forests female.
Done.
Rabbit asks for a motorcycle.
Done.
Bear asks to make all bears in the whole region female.
Done.
Rabbit asks for a motorcycle helmet.
Poof, done.
Bear asks to make every other bear in the world female.
Genie says, “Done, you go it.”
Rabbit says “Make this bear gay” and speeds away.
Luthien: I’m kind of obsessive.
Aragorn’s my favorite, but if I could live anywhere in middle earth, it’d be Rohan.
0/3 for Giambi tonight.
Jeremy, Phillips is an average hitting 1B. how many platoon 1b have a better OPS than Phillips, and how many are worse?
last but not least, there were no great 1b free agent options at 1b in the offseason. the yankees decided they could make due with phillips in a platoon role. the bottom line – he has MET their expectations. period.
He hasn’t met the blogs standards, Dave. Anyway you look at it though, .698 is a bad OPS.
phillips WASN’T in the platoon role… Phelps was…. Phelps even beat out Phillips in spring training for the spot.
Good job drawing pitches. Even if we don’t score this evening we’re at least making Beckett work to get through it.
Love the Yankees’ patience !
dontfirecash, thats the point. the blog expects every player to be an all-star.
what was Scott Brosius’ OPS?
NICE!
All right Melky!!!!!
Michael T: First of all I was not defending I was inquiring. Your massive baseball intelligence has now certainly put me in my place. I know now to never bring up average.
YEAH BABY!!
GET ON THE BOARD!!
wooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Awww yeahhh… Got Melky?
I see …..6…..games…back…..creeping……closer…….then…..5….games……back….I can see you back there…..
bury him johnny!
Melky says, “how you like me now, Steve Phillips?”
Me gusta la leche!!
WILD THING !!!! you make my heart sing !!!!
yeah johnny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You’ll get no argument from me that Phillips has met the Yankees’ expectations.
He’s not an average hitter by any kind of comparison I can think of. He’s not league-average and he’s not league-1B-average. I can’t figure out a way to compare him to all right-handed platoon 1Bs but I can’t imagine him being better than average considering how bad he is overall.
I’d be happy to platoon Phillips if it made sense, but it doesn’t. He has a reverse platoon split – he can’t hit lefties. You might as well use Giambi against lefties too.
The Yankees did make a decision to go the defense route at first this season, and I’ve never thought it was a good idea. But at the same time, like you said, the alternatives were lousy. I wanted to bring Craig Wilson back, but it’s a good thing we didn’t because he’s been a disaster.
For most of the year we made due with what we had, but now I think we should forget the trend of using our best available fielders at first and see the position as a way to get Giambi’s bat into the lineup.
Phillips has done an admirable job filling a gap as a AAAA player but he cannot hit well, and he certainly can’t hit like Giambi. He should be a bench player.
Johnny Damon is still SO pathetic!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LIFE is GOOD !
Dude, Johnny Damon rocks.
Yes, I really did just say that.
YEAH BABY!!
JOHNNNY!!
JOHNNNY!!
JOHNNNY!!
Jawwhny Dahmon is a wicked ballah!!
Mighty long inning, isn’t it Beckett?
Once again, Johnny Damon SUCKS!!!
hey Beckett ! WHO’S YOUR DADDY ????
Damon comes through
WWJD
“Jawwhny Dahmon is a wicked ballah!!”
LOL
Man, I am sorry Johnny. I doubted your abilities all season…but you are making a believer out of me again.
hey J-Dawg!
nice to see ya. glad you stopped by!
Girardi called it spot on.
Just listening to this guy for a little under an hour you can see how much this guy loves and knows about baseball. Truly one of the great minds in baseball.
Whenever the Torre era ends, I really hope we are fortunate enough to have Girardi as our manager. Nothing against Donnie Baseball but I don’t think he has anything on Joe G.
Clemens needs to shut them down now.
Wow that wild pitch turned out to be huge. Great movement off second by Melky to score on that and great read by Bowa at 3rd to send him home on Hinske’s subpar skills
Having said all that, the resurgence of Damon is a beautiful thing.
BWAHAHA!
Josh Beckett: Gold Glover!!!!!!
jeremy, i think that’s fair.
Johnny Damon is better than Coco Crisp! Melky Cabrera came thru too!! Maybe Joe Torre is smarter than us for preaching patience earlier this year.
Johnny D haunting his old Bosox again! Love it!
BECKETT IS FALLING APART!!!!!!!!
Global warming – i couldnt agree with you more. love girardi. i wish donnie would stay but i think he’ll be upset if they pass him over. either way, girardi is great.
bat Boy for Boston needs to just hand Beck@$$ the cooler and RUN AWAY !!!
Beckett is starting to CRACK – he’s gonna Flip Out
In this slow-mo clip from just two weeks ago, he freaked out in the dugout
http://tinyurl.com/yr2ofh
Was that Youkillis’ first error of the year?
don’t count your chickens just yet…
Let’s see if Clemens can keep the Sox off the board.
Good inning guys!! Mow them down Rocket!!!!
I just hope Clemens doesn’t give the runs back right away… .then again, he probably will, considering how long he had been sitting.
30+ pitches for Beckett in the second inning. Let’s keep this up.
WHERE IS BECKETT, WHERE IS BECKETT
Jim Clark – ive been defending damon all season. he was playing through injuries and has a career track record that says he was much better than he was earlier this season. if you want to knock his defense, ok – but we knew what we were getting when we signed him. he makes pitchers work and can still hit.
i love the fact that torre is making half of the analysts look like idiots when they said he was done.
Global Warming, I totally agree. I love Donnie Baseball w/all my heart and being 26, he is such a HUGE part of the reason I am the fan I am today. But Girardi is DEFINITELY the next guy I want managing the team.
Ohhh, Sir Paul at the game!
Not only is Johnny D a wicked ballah (LOL!), he has sexy calves, remember?
I’m still laughing over that line from him earlier this year.
clemens is missing his spots pretty badly… turn it around roger
8 pitch walk to the #9 hitter?! come on!!
I think it was fair to say that Damon was done. Maybe that’s just because I said it.
I’m trying to enjoy the great job he’s doing now and not think about how he will look next year or later.
Andy Phillips has a career batting average of 1.000 and a slugging % of 4.000 against Beckett. I retract, he should be in there!
Meanhwile, leadoff walks to bench players after your team scored 3 against an Ace is NOT what Proven Veterans (TM) are supposed to do.
Johnny: “This is what you get for not re-signing me ARRRRRGHHH!”
If we let him go maybe he’ll come back and haunt us like this LOL
Rocket needs to hold the lead and give us another win tonight.
Odd time to bunt there, don’t you think?
Before we harp on Roger and his inability to throw strikes, let’s remember Boston’s line…
I refuse to utter it here, but if you consider it for a moment, Clemens isn’t pitching as bad as you all think he is.
ortiz hit it well but thanks david for swinging at the first pitch… rocket at 46 pitches… and this red sox lineup does not scare me at all right now.
Yes, very weird bunt decision. Inexplicable.
That was a gritty (TM) play by the grittiest little bosox gritster since the Remdog. Thanks for the out D-Pud.
Clemens definitely does not have his best command tonight, but good job getting out of that inning after what looked like it could be a troublesome leadoff walk.
“D-Pud”…LMFAO! Nice!
According to yahoo that was scored a sacrifice. WHAT?? No wonder he’s a .300+ hitter.
Could we be headed to a Roger Clemens Six-Inning Quality Start (TM)?
So you’re not supposed to bunt a guy to third on two outs?
J Dawg I was just about to ask that exact same question. If he was bunting to move up the runner then no advantage with 2 outs Hinske was in scoring position already. If he was bunting for a single then he certainly didnt get it in the right place.
He’s pitching back? Who said that?
Sure he has 3 walks but he has an okay amount of pitches per innings and he hasn’t given up a single *hit*. Also his stuff looks great as he’s hitting 92 on the YES gun.
Most importantly it’s all zeros for Boston.
I’ll take what Clemens has done so far, but the Sox lineup looks terrible. no offense to rocket, and maybe he is keeping them off balance, but his stuff doesnt look better than usual. the sox lineup just looks like crap… which is fine with me.
Just figured they’d have Pedroia swinging away.
what a joke… get back to first alex
AROD WHAT WAS THAT?
You’re too good to run the bases poorly.
I’ll gladly take 6 innings of quality pitching from Rocket.
What just happened to ARod? Gameday says he singled and was out at first.
Global Warming: SHHHH!!!! Don’t mention it!
I know it’s early, but you have to start with innings one, two and three…
chance to have the lead off guy on and really get beckett in a funk but a stupid play like that can completely let him off the hook.
this is why clemens has value – he knows how to get outs and get through games like this without his best stuff. (plus he’s 400 years old)
it also helps to not have man-ram in the lineup
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To All The Phil Hughes Haters.
Jeremy: Arod tried to take a single and make it a double.
MVP Ordonez
He took a wide turn, thinking about a double and they threw back to first to get him
clemens is effectively wild so far. not great, not awful. it was nice to see him put a zero up on the board after the offense got to beckett.
JEremy – he singled and rounded first way too much and didnt get back in time. they caught him rounding first too much.
Jeremy, AROD hit a single but got caught trying to come back from an almost attempt at second.
Wow. Alex doing his best Giambi impression running the bases.
He’ll make up for it with jack #44 later in the game.
at least the home plate ump looks good tonight. he’s been consistent.
as for a-rod’s blunder, we’ve seen that from plenty of yankees this year, especially posada. for a veteran lineup, they make a lot of really foolish errors on the basepaths.
Damn, A-Rod would have scored.
Thanks. Must have been a really dumb move by ARod for the play to develop like that.
H-Mat with a triple!!!
and arods play cost us a run… lets at least get Matsui home.
crisp doing his usual
Nice faceplant Coco
Matsui HAS TO SCORE to redeem A-Rod’s mistake.
Matsui atones for Arod, and adds an extra base just the same.
Shredded Wheat cant make the play
Nice dive by that clown in CF. If I know anything it is that this can not be the best team this great sport has to offer….
GODZILLA STRIKES
Let’s go Jorge and bring Godzilla home.
Matsui continues to kill the ball. He’s quietly put together what may be his best season as a Yankee.
Seeing how Hinske went after the ball in left, maybe you can understand why arod was so aggressive. He took a page out of the abreu sit-on-the-job book.
that was outside but close… ugh
No Joba tonight, it’s our bullpen vs. Gagne, Timlin, Pimplebutt— We need at least 10 runs.
CUYanks, its ok to round first enough in case hinske bobbles it or something but he went WAY around and hinske fielded it cleanly.
a ground ball would have worked! ugh
come on GIAMBINO!
have to get this run home… cmon jason
Speaking of Coco…. maybe you guys talked about this here last night, but did you hear Francona quoted as saying he was the best center fielder he’s ever seen? Gawwwwwwd.
ADK writer,
Great post and terrific info
Way to waste Matsui’s triple….
I really hope A-Rod’s mistake doesn’t haunt this game.
thanks Alex…. beckett is at 63 pitches but he’d be up even higher and down 4-0.
Crap. Ok, bring back Phillips.
that may come back to haunt us
Bah…..we really could’ve used another run. Ugh.
At least the Boston lineup is only 1/2 as scary tonight.
Well that was frustrating…we coulda had another run dammit!!
a-rod’s play only cost us a run if you overlook the fallacy of the pre-determined outcome.
Hmmm, the shift on Giambi and no attempt of bunting. They should have at least tried once.
Don’t get me wrong, I am a huge fan, but A-Rod is a bonehead for letting that happen to him. Cost us a run.
i know they’re up 3-0, but that’s terrible. a-rod’s mistake and the inability to get matsui in from 3rd could very easily come back to haunt them. that’s just terrible.
gotta get some more runs though, I concede. three runs is nothing against this team, even without Manolo.
UPDATE, 8:10 p.m.: I haven’t had time to read any comments, but in case you missed it Manny Ramirez has a strained oblique and will be out tomorrow as well, if not for the next week.
sweet
Yeah I wish Giambi would try to bunt more!
Everyone take a big deep breath. Arods blunder was at least one of hustle. We can live with that…..He must have thought is was Gold Glove Manny out in LF. Isnt it this time of year when Manny usually quits…I mean takes a few weeks off to get better…..
Kill Schill–Need to thank you for updating me this past week!
on pace to go 0/3, Giambi. Can anybody NOT walk Yuckilis???
Haha quick out.
you cant say arod cost us a run… beckett would have been working from the stretch instead of the windup and paying attention to arod… Matsui wouldn’t have gotten the same pitches.
Strikeout!!
ARod’s fallacy MIGHT have cost us a run. To declare that it DEINITELY DID is not right. Beckett wouldn’t have made the same pitches and Matsui wouldn’t have taken the same swings with man on base. Having said that, it is also possible that it might have cost us more than one run.
we are up 3-0 and it could be more….and WE are terrible ???…kasey, you really are the King of All that is, was and ever will be TOTALLY NEGATIVE. Clemens is pitching well, even with the walks and we are hammering Beck@$$ and he is showing no signs of improvement. You know what is terrible ? …..you flippin’ attitude, dude !
Dare I say it…….NO HITTER?
One – Two – Three
Thanks, Yoda!
Good quick inning there from the Rocket. That’s a big help!!!
i really hate Kay…. does he really have to mention not giving up… ummm you know.
Yeah roger…. making that tame sox lineup look….. tame
Clemens keeps this up he’ll have a better game than Petitte did yesterday…
Clemens has a no-hitter and kasey has found the sh*tty lining in the cloud….Bravo ! good job, ya DOWNER !
A-rod’s run won’t affect the outcome, the Rocket is dealing
Thanks 26 Rings.
Stop by a lot, you’ll like what we do.
Ok came back to check it out on ESPN(HD). Does STeve Phillips have anything positive to say about the Yankees? I wish that ugly goatee would just eat his head and shut him up.
Beckett will easily throw over 200 innings this regular season. More than he’s ever thrown in his career.
(sniff – sniff) ….. it’s blisters time.
“Can anybody NOT walk Yuckilis???”
Apparently!
Nice inning there.
Don Vito: SHHHHHH YOU DON’T SAY THINGS LIKE THAT!!!
Michael Kay….the king of the jinx.
http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2.....rfect.html
“Dare I say it…….NO HITTER?”
The biggest jinx of all time Michael Kay already beat you to it.
Don Vito – you need to learn as most of us has. when you see “kasey” move on to the next post.
Hey,
long time yankee fan can’t watch the game since i’m out of state. the sopcast idea was good, but I can’t use it since i’m on a mac. any of you pro’s know any other methods?
thanks!
gaaaah let’s not talk about you-know-what k?
Arrg Cano. We need to draw more than one pitch per batter this inning.
Dude, if Boston gets a base hit next inning I’m going to be really pissed off, and I’m not sure who I’ll be more pissed off at….
that first pitch to Melky was low…although I am sure that kasey will disagree….
jonnycat-
it’s also being broadcasted on ESPN2
way to work the count rob
one comment on Kennedy. The Yankees don’t need a 5th starter again until sept 15th at Boston. I actually think Kennedy will be pitching that game. Will be nice to have a Kennedy go into Boston and kick eh-ra beantown butt.
Great hustle from Melky!!!!
Boston Dave
August 29th, 2007 at 8:29 pm
Don Vito – you need to learn as most of us has. when you see “kasey� move on to the next post.
AHA !…like ignore the silly man behind the curtain-type thing ???
Nice hustle Melky!!!
That was close.
YEAH!!! what were BEckett and Pukilis doing?
Nice Play, ICEHOLE !!!
MELKY DIDN’T SLIDE!!!
Quick!
Beckett needs a Heimlich Maneuver
derr….do I step ON the base, or is NEAR it good enuff…Wait there goes a Deer….KAPLOW !….I’m a MAN…I shot a big dog !!!!
Jeff NJ = hahah, eh ra i hope yaw right.
Howie – yeah funny how that works Melky!
PLEASE WORK THE COUNT JETER!
KC opening another can on Detroit tonight (so far)…. whats up with the Tiggers?
CRAP!!! i guess i cant argue with the attempt. oh well.
So how many more unnecessary outs are we going to rack up tonight?
well, Beckett has settled down. still up only 3-0, bahumba. Clemens better have the game of his life.
fudge !….well THAT cost us a run…probably cost us the whole flippin’ game….these Yankees are TERRIBLE….How can they expect to win with only a 3-0 lead and one of their top pitchers “dealing”….terrible…they need to pull Melky out of the game and force him to listen to a kasey koncert !
Incredibly annoying but at least it’s because they’re hustling.
Cabrera’s was not an unnecessary out. With an 0-2 count and 2 outs, it is a good baseball move to have the runner attempt a steal. If he makes it, he is in scoring position. If he doesn’t, the batter gets a fresh count.
Thanks Dr. Acula,
I’m actually stuck in boston for the next few days, and am only getting basic cable, which i guess means no NESN, ESPN2 etc… sucks. I love my mac, but at times like this i cringe!
thanks!
Satan has spoken: “Varitek shall send one out this inning.”
How is trying to get in scoring position with Derek up uneccesary?
Nutzoid Phillips says Jetes will play until he’s 42-43-44.
Get real fuzzbrain. The Captain won’t need to play past 40.
Phil and Mo – I agree
Steve Phillips, shut your fool mouth.
The clowns from the 4 letter network just jinxed the Rocket….
if he made it, we’d all be cheering.
I like it, put _pressure_ on the chokers and they’ll fall apart like a subprime mutual fund.
ESPN announcers are debating over whether to mention the you-know-what.
My pleasure Rebecca. You can repay me sometime when I’m out of range of radio, computer, or TV.
Gooooooo Royals !!!!!
Did anyone else see the gun just read 104mph on Yes?
Torre is hoping the you know what doesnt happen. we cant have clemens throwing 140 pitches.
Please. Clemens isn’t going to be doing anything like that tonight.
Although, damn, I’d be oh-so-pleased if he did.
SIT DOWN, Apple Jacks !!!
*STRIKE K*
Kill Schill–of course!
here comes a DP
How the hell did Cleveland score four runs off Santana?
Or you can buy me a drink next time I’m in Syracuse.
Why is Steve Phillips talking?
why do they keep mentioning it every chance they get?
way to battle… ROCKET !
YEEEEEEEY
Kay for the jinx again!
Steve Phillips is getting nervous.
Personally I wouldn’t mention it if I was broadcasting. I would have the producers and directors flashing the box score every 30 seconds!
75 pitches after 5…. he’s going 7 (slight chance of
tonight… do we bring in joba if the you know what is still going after that? 
8
Kill Schill–Sure thing. I haven’t actually bought alcohol since I’ve legally been able to (Four and a half months now…), but I’d be glad to change that.
Four Walks! Maybe Clemens will lose this game without giving up a hit!! When is the last time that happened?
*I SAY BRING IN FARNSWORTH*
whether ESPN mentions it or not..it makes no difference…he had a NO HITTER after the first inning….there…if he blows it in the next inning…blame ME….Neither I nor ESPN controls the universe !!!
Why is there such thing as a Steve Phillips ??? Why ???
i control the universe….
no hitter.
opps.
What are those things around Becket’s neck? it looks like some Stephen King curse-beads
Beckett needs to shave the pubes off his face.
Again, nice hustle!
and this is the cy young pitcher??? hahahahahahah yeah right
Dr. A- With the necklace beads I think that Beckett might be a voodoo doctor on the days that he doesn’t pitch!
Alright, I have to vent. I’m stuck watching this on NESN b/c I live in Maine and all the blackout restriction BS I can’t get it on my Direct TV Extra Innings package and YES is blacked out on the SAT.
Anyway, point is, Jery Remy won’t shut up about the fact Clemens hasn’t allowed a…you know.
Anyway, I thought par for the course in broadcasting was you don’t mention a @#-$^@^@@$ until at least the 7th frame.
Anyone remember what Mark Grace did to Pedro Martinez from the booth a few years ago when the Mets were playing the D-Backs?
And I loved Rem-Dog’s other Pulitzer-winning comment from tonight…real professional:
“Even though I hate the man, he is one of the best right-handers of all time.”
Now Don Orsillon is bringing up Cory Lidle, b/c Abreu is at bat.
hmm, that was Tek’s fault… nice job tek
If I ever see Steve Phillips on the street, I’m going to do my best to introduce myself, cock my fist, and punch him as hard as I can in the mouth.
I already have five colleagues prepared to argue my case to jury by invoking “the necessity” defense.
LOL!
did Beckett just look like a total dork on that play, or am I just totally biased because he is Lord of the @$$holes ?
I hate when we ground into DPs.
I thought that ball was hit too softly to get two.
Shamus, I’m watching NESN too. i dont think it applies to the road crew. they certainly dont want roger to do it. if it were beckett they prob wouldnt say anything…… NOT that any of it matters.
Remy is pretty good for an enemy announcer.
WORK THE COUNT !!! come on Yankees,,,say it with me….WORK THE FLIPPIN’ COUNT !
why would Don Orsillon bring up cory Lidle?
Looks like we won’t score another run. This is not looking promising: 4 innings for them to score 3 or more.
Rebecca me too. I was surprised the Sox got two there. That ball was hit slowly and thought A-Rod would beat the relay. Not to be. I’d like some insurance runs.
way to make up for your previous blunder a rod.
ugh.
yup, thought Arod would beat that out. if for nothing else than beckett’s pitch count, that hurts. first pitch DP.
When is the last time A-Rod did anything productive other than just gawking at Cameron Diaz from the batter’s box? 5 games ago, 10, 15 ?
And I agree… What the hell is around Beckett’s neck? The necklace with the big circular/oval white disc? If I were Torre or a player, I’d complain. He’s a right-handed pitcher and his arm comes across his body so at one point, the ball is parallel to the white thing on his chain.
Remember when Grady Little asked the umps to have Clemens take off his glove w/ the white ‘Clemens’ 300 win’ patch on it b/c he said it was distracting hitters in 2003?
I’d love to see Clemens go two more innings. I don’t care about how many hits he surrenders. I’ll be thrilled if he doesn’t yield a run.
Shamus-
Roger’s mom gave an interview once were she said of Boston and people like Rem-Dog, “they treated him like Hitler!”
Let’s take our minds off of Roger for a while. Every year I see more people in the crowd wearing Yankee – and other team jerseys with players names on them. If you are one of the fans who does this, may I ask why?
Man, Melky is just Mr. Authorative out there making these calls on fly balls tonight, isn’t he?
good point about the clemens patch, shamus. 9 hits through 5 for NY though, becketts gonna need more than his lucky charm.
Cancel the press conference
Shucks.
DAMMIT I HATE YOU MICHAEL KAY, ESPN AND ALL THE JINXERS!!!!!
Yea, I’m pissed.
oh, this whole thing is jinxed now ! I was talking to one of my kids and said: Did you hit your sister in the face ? and the answer was, *No, Hit her* in the shoulder !! I about lost it…it sounded like she said No Hitter and THAT is why Big Papi just crushed that ball…MY FAULT, ALL….Sorry !
Can we enforce the Walk Ortiz From Now On rule?
No Manny behind him…abuse it
I think he got most of that one….
relax everyone – be happy its a solo shot. just 1 run. as long as roger doesnt lose it now, its fine.
guys vizcanio wears that crap too.
hmm, good point 89.
_When is the last time A-Rod did anything productive other than just gawking at Cameron Diaz_
I hope ARod got her number. Cano shouldn’t bogart all the blonde hotties.
Yeah, typically I don’t mind Rem Dawg or Donnie Giggles…if the Yankees are playing a 10 pm game or something, sometimes I’ll watch a little NESN.
Plus, its always on in every bar in this sorry state from March 20th until October 3rd every year, so you get used to it.
Thank gof for extra innings package (and a wife from New York!)
Well, that’s over… keep grinding, Rocket.
Nice HR by Steve Phillips for the Red Sox there.
There are no jinxers, tooth fairies, unicorns, trolls ( well no..there ARE trolls ), flying reindeer AND there is NO SANTA CLAUS !
Beckett’s such a cocky jerk. The Red Sox are such a band of phony tough guys.
This is such a reversal of position this year – we’re chasing them but they’ve gotten be scared to death of a one-on-one matchup with us this year in the playoffs. We hit all their starters and their offense isn’t what it was.
And these weird necklaces are called Healing Necklaces or something… It seems like 30% of players are wearing them – I have no idea what they do. I am surprised no articles have been put out about them…
If Ortiz walks, then Lowell or Youkilis works a walk, suddenly the tying run could be up. Better to challenge Ortiz there. Still hoping for 7 from Clemens, 1 from Viz, then Mo. Joba can close for 2 tomorrow if Rivera can’t go 3 in a row.
I DISPISE STEVE PHILLIPS…..
I didn’t think that Rocket would have the pitch count to throw a no hitter tonight, but 1 run isn’t too bad..
Wolf -
I’ve noticed a few plays the past few days where Abreu has looked like he’s been PO’d that Melky has came out of no where in abreu’s territory to make the snag.
haha yessss the Aaron Boone homerun — never a better time to be a Yankee fan in Boston… that was the best moment of my sports life.
I bet they are handing out free beer in Boston after that jack! For Clemens to have never tossed a no-no, to do it against the Sox would have been a holy event.
Still a great outting so far.
They ought to toss the Rules out the window and let Joba rip. Made Ortiz and Nancy Drew look like they belonged in Williamsport last night!
I really dont understand why they pitch to Ortiz when Manny is not in there. How do you still let him beat you when he has Mike Lowell behind him?
What was A-Rod doing earlier? Way to cost your team runs. It looks like A-Rod circa 2006 is back
Shamus, I hear ya…. i need to find me a nice Yankee girl. you are a lucky man. i cant tell you how many girls i meet around here that seem fine until they tell me they are die-hard sox fans. i’d settle for a casual fan that i could convert.
_ Every year I see more people in the crowd wearing Yankee – and other team jerseys with players names on them. If you are one of the fans who does this, may I ask why?_
Transplants. NYC is an international city.
Plus it’s only fair, every year I see more and more people wearing Yankee jerseys in away stadiums.
If the announcers didn’t do it, or anyone at this blog, somewhere in some home in some rural part of the country a Yankees fan entertained the idea of a no-hitter.
I disagree — I pitch around Ortiz as much as possible, I don’t care if there are negative people on base. I am just tired of seeing him trot around the bases at the stadium. At least make someone else beat you.
Manny and Ortiz RAKE against the Yankees…time for a new philosophy
i was also in boston for the boone home run. i got death threats and was also drunk off my ass.
i have to agree with 89… but it looks like ortiz would have scored anyway. lets go rocket – 1 more out.
If he doesn’t get this guy, it’s the Viz.
Boston Dave — I have only met like one actual Die Hard Red Sox fan female….
like the type that new the team existed before 2002.
Yeah Hobs – I thought I saw an obvious glare from Melky towards Abreu after that last catch. Must be some friction going on both ways there.
Go NYR.
Yankees had a 3 run lead. No need to put on baserunners. Make them earn it. Ortiz crushed it. Credit where it’s due but it’s better than giving the Sox a free shot at getting back in the game with a walk.
Anybody warming up in the pen now? Does anyone know?
Think its time to get someone up in the bullpen. Clemens is done. Now that run A-Rod lost for us is gonna come back to bite us.
The Viz is warming up Paolo.
This is where Roger needs to be pulled BEFORE he gives up the lead…RIGHT NOW and I would bet a cool million that Torre does NOT have the brain to do it !
Viz warming.
nice pitch!! now one up and away
Thanks, Josh…
I have my hands over my eyes…..
Strike once more please…
Yeah, the necklaces they typically wear are from a company called Phi-Ten (phiten.com), I have one. I used to bartend forever, have bad shoulders and I have tried everything.
They are $20 and they work like the copper bracelets people with arthritis wear on their wrists, except they are supposed to help with the flow of blood to the neck, shoulder and upper back regions.
Pitchers apparently love them. Many of them wear multiple or braid four together. Personally, I can’t tell if it actually works for me or if it is just mental.
But the round white thing Beckett has around his neck is a bit much, I think.
Yankee JOsh- I did not mean I wanted him intentionally walked, But to throw a BP fastball because he was ahead in the count is insane.
A-Rod was being aggressive. Absolutely nothing wrong with his running hard out of the box and thinking double. I wish more major leaguers did that. Relax.
“If they can get in, this may be their best chance to win it in the past 3 years.”
I was thinking the exact same thing earlier today. This would be the Yanks best chance at another championship with few current playoff contenders with dominant pitching. Oakland and Detroit would have been high on my list of concerns earlier in the season, but both teams seemed to have taken a step back with one out of the picture completely. There is no Minnesota with that ridiculous one two punch of Santana and Liriano. Who else has that absolutely dominant pitching that cant be beat this year?
One thing is for sure; these oppressive Joba rules MUST be amended. I’m not saying let Torre have his way with Joba, but the rules as they stand significantly impair the Yanks chances at getting to and succeeding in the playoffs. If the guy throws 8 pitches one night, there is no logical reason why he cant throw again in back to back days. Have the rules, but make them rational so they both protect Joba and the Yanks.
BJ
HAha A-rod didnt lose any runs…
I don’t like when people make arguments like that — pitchers throw differently with runners on base and off base, pick different pitches, different spots, outfielders align themselves accordingly — it’s a whole different situation
that ball might have been a routine flyball if arod was on base
Yes!!!
i had to mute kay when he was talking about clemens stats…. ok lets get this run back here.
Big Hand for the Old Man!
Six innings, two hits.
Most pitchers wouldn’t complain.
Nice….Viz, Joba, Mo and we are ON OUR WAY !!!
Phew, he gets out of it.
In other news, someone really needs to give Steve Phillips a wedgie.
Shamus, what town you in?
Time to cash in Roger for the night. They got six innings, one run on a night when he couldn’t really control the ball. Take your winnings and leave.
I don’t think Clemens WANTED to throw a fastball over the plate. Take a look at the walk totals, Go NYR, he is having trouble with control.
Fantastic.
Satan thought the game’s at Fenway,
now he’s got the right ballpark.
Good work from the Rocket tonight. The walks were high but none of them came back to haunt him!
GREAT JOB. I don’t think any one of us can be upset about 6 innings and 2 hits with 1 run.
now if only we could squash beckett
But then again, I’ve wanted to punch ol’ Blister Beckett in the neck since October of 2003.
Him and Juan Pierre. They killed us in 03 WS.
Becketts white necklace thing looks like a fat guitar pick… I bet he tries to sign in a band or something. I am surprised he doesnt take a hint from Spiezio and die his soul patch different colors.
oh…and NOW is the time to tack on some more runs….WAKE UP THE BATS, Yankees !
Can’t ask for any more than that from the Rocket.
If you were told before the game he would go 6 and only give up 1 run, you would sign on for that in a NY minute.
What’s hurt tonight is they left a few runs out there with some bonehead baseball. Arod’s baserunning gaffe, not getting Matsui in from third with less than 2 outs and too many first pitch swings for outs with runners on base.
Would be a whole lot easier if they had another 2 runs or so on the board right now.
They have to find a way to score more than 3 tonight. Going to be awfully tough for the bullpen to throw 3 shutout innings.
The Rocket did his job. Now, its up to the rest of the team to finish the task.
Shamus-
_Pitchers apparently love them. Many of them wear multiple or braid four together. Personally, I can’t tell if it actually works for me or if it is just mental._
anyone remember when Hideki Arabu used to taped magnets all over his undershirt
Go NYR
Oh, it was a terrible pitch and I too am so sick of Ortiz beating up on us. But even pitching carefully to him and issuing an unintentional walk would have annoyed me more. There’s nothing worse than lead off walks, especially in games you are winning. If the Yankees win, I’ll live with Ortiz jacking one.
even Carl PAvano killed us in 03′.. no excuse for losing that series.
I live in Maine man. On the coast. I went to college in Boston though, at Emerson and UMassB, before I moved to Maine and got a job at a paper.
No more 1st pitch outs pls!!
i’ll take clemens batter to batter in the 7th… so we can try to go viz in 8 mo in 9
6 innings, 2 hits, 1R by Rocket is a GREAT outing from him.
The offense needs to pick up a bit more so we have a big enough lead to throw Farn-some-worth out there, then Viz, then Rivera.
Irabu taped magnets on his undershirt?
Phil- A-Rod made a baserunning blunder. You should know that being such a prominent High School baseball coach. There is no reason to go half way to second base in that situation. You had Beckett on the ropes last inning and you should accept a lead off single. Instead he gets throen out going back to first. If he wanteda double he should have went to second base. I would have accepted it if he got thrown out going for a double but to get thrown out going back to first on a ball hit to left field leading off an inning is unacceptable. It cost us runs and was a big mistake. There is no way around it.
Alex Gonzalez was also a thorn in our side in the ‘03 series.
85 pitches and counting… come on!!!
why are we no longer working the count ? WHY ???
i dont think thats gonna happen rocco… farnsworth might be in this game.
Hip, hip, Jorge!!!
Hey Doc:
Those weren’t magnets taped on Irabu’s body— they were veracose veins! lol
here comes a rip from giambino… cmon jason
They should do it.
Acula –
Irabu should have dipped himself in molten iron… maybe that magnetism would have done something for his pitching.
Shamus, I don’t know (or need to know) where you are, but my family used to vacation in Camden when I was a kid growing up in Jersey during the 70’s and I miss it tremendously.
90 pitches and counting… go, go, go…
Apparently Luis Vizcaino thinks they work. He has like 23 necklaces around his neck. If it does work, dont you think there is a limit to how many will work?
Did the announcers just say that Beckett was the better of the two pitchers tonight? Yes Roger walked more than he should have but Beckett has given up 11 hits.
Howdy!!!
i hate mediocre players that play good against the yankees, they are the ultimate scum of the earth.
Scooter, what announcers????
*Don Vito Bellamo* Joba doesn’t pitch tonight he can tomorrow
No, you shouldn’t always accept a leadoff single. You’ve got a poor left fielder making a play down the left field line. Out of the box, Alex was running hard. A perfect play had to be made to get him out. You have to force the opponents to make the perfect throws and plays. Did he wait too long to put the brakes on? Yes. But I would not classify it as a bad baserunning play. I would chalk it up to overaggressiveness. It was not unacceptable. Being thrown out by 25 feet would have been unacceptable. He realized he took too big of a turn and tried to get back.
And thank you for calling me a prominent high school baseball coach. That was very nice of you.
I agree. If they have to fight all the way through September for the first time in YEARS just to get into the postseason, then I think they could ride the ‘Wild Card Surge” straight through.
Look at all the wild card teams that have won the World Series the last seven or so years. They get hot in September and they carry it for a few more weeks in October, unlike a team like the Yankees who (typically) have a fat lead and rest the last month to ‘prep’ for October.
They can’t turn it on and off like a light switch, in my opinion. They need the offense to get blistering hot in September and hope it can win us 2007.
I say let them scrap, brawl, kick, bite and punch their way into the playoffs for once. Every year since 2000 they have coasted into October with a fat division lead and look what its gotten them… Freakin’ A.L. version of the Braves, for crying out loud.
Wow, a season-high 11 hits for Beckett (so far) and a first error for Youkilis. What’s next?
Unfortunately, the Robbie Cano from the first three months of the season is back. Another horrible at AB, swinging at the first pitch again for an out.
Way too many first pitch outs from the lineup tonight. Its why they haven’t scored any more runs.
Cano really has played horribly the past two and half weeks. May be time for Torre to have another heart to heart with him again.
Another brutal evening at the plate for him.
Will Kevin Thompson come upwhen the rosters expand? They could really use a faster runner to pinch run in late innings so they dont have to pinch run with the Wilson Betemits and Andy Phillps of the world.
The broadcasters are really pulling for Beckett tonight.
Phil, I dont think a perfect play was needed to get Arod at 2nd. he’s not getting the base unless the throw was way off or he boots the ball. its ok to take a turn to see if he bobbles it, but especially as a leadoff hitter you have to be more careful… i guess its better to get out being agressive than being lazy.
Did Steve Phillips just said Beckett was in line for a Cy Young?
Beckett’s also facing the best offense in baseball.
3 Runs in 5.2 IP against the Yankees is good.
lets make it 12 hits melky
Not a fan of pinch running for Giambi here. Game could still turn and he could get another at bat. I rhink taking him out in the 8th if we still had the lead was the better strategy.
aww yeah
I love Melky.
Bases Loaded. Beckett on the ropes…time for the Donkey punch.
Bases loaded.
Johnny Damon.
This could be interesting. Please, for the love of g-d don’t swing at the first pitch…
Sad to say i think Jeter would have let that ball get by him.
This is a huge AB.
It is the Johnny show time…
Of course Phillips only gives Lugo credit for keeping the ball from getting to the outfield. What a joke!
Damon is a .407 hitter with em loaded!!
i just puked a little in my mouth.
I think Hinske fielding it cleanly down the line, coming up firing a good one-hop throw to Pedroia, whom spun with no hesitation to throw to Youkilis is darn near perfect.
Walk one in baby.
who spun
Agree with you, SJ44. We all would’ve been ecstatic with 6 IP, 1 R.
Cano needed to find a way to score that run.
Wolf– no kidding man. I am the assistant sports editor for The Camden Herald, of Courier Publications. What a small world ! I cover sports for The Herald and The Courier-Gazette.
It is beautiful up here, without a doubt. But not for Yankees fans, my friend.
There was a rumor a few years ago that Damon bought land up here on one of the islands across teh Harbor from Camden… Islesboro, where John travolta, Kirstie Alley, and the rest of the washed up Hollywood stars live.
This pitch determines the rest of the contest.
He shat himself, sir! I sware.
LOL.. ok, now THIS one determines the rest of the contest… 3-2….
couldnt disagree with you more phil but its a moot point. he got out and he absolutely should not have.
Please don’t slide head first!
HATE THE HEAD FIRST SLIDE
UGH! Almost…..
The head first dive argument can be resumed.
What the heck is with our OF’ers sliding into 1B ?????First Melky, now Johnny!
why do they dive, I still won’t under it
Phil- A perfect play would have to be made to get him at second. Why did he stop then? If you want a double go for second. You cant have it in between. Be committed or one way or another. You cant get thrown out going BACK to first base in that situation. Its inexcuseable. There is a point of no return and A-Rod clearly passed it. If you go passed a certain point you have to go for 2. You cant get caught in no mans land.
And by the way how has Kyle Farnsworth done with his location of his “straight as an arrow” fastball? He looks pretty dominant now that he has been hitting his spots, Dont ya think?
Beckett…I wondered what Bea Arthur would look like after a sex change….
Another guy dives into first costing them a hit. Jesus, doesn’t anybody learn?
Five runs left out there tonight with horrible situational hitting.
They better hope the bullpen is lights out tonight.
Damon was out either way, don’t make a big deal out of it.
He would have been out either way.
J-Dawg
I think Damon was hoping to avoid the swipe tag and hoping Beckett missed the base. But it no doubt noticeably slowed him down.
ouchh. battle of the bullpens now, I don’t like our chances against Iwojima and Gagne and Pimplebuttt.
why do they dive, I still won’t *understand* it
At least the pitch count is at 104 for Beckett…
Anything other than that would’ve put tremendous pressure on the Red Sox to do what they have trouble doing… coming back in close games, late.
Now the pressure swings to the Yanks’ late-inning pitching…
So much more enjoyable these past two nights than the past week, though. This is why we all love the game so much.
“Sad to say i think Jeter would have let that ball get by him.”
Jeter wouldn’t have even made the effort.
If you dive as early as Damon did, it definitely slows you down. Its called friction.
Yeah– its not a big deal until a shoulder is separated, or a hand is stepped on by a caveman like Youkilis.
Sure… no big deal….
You Knuckle nuts.
If Damon runs through the bag, he collides with Beckett and the last thing Damon wants is to get hurt again. He could get hurt sliding but the chances are lesser by not making contact with another player.
Good point YankeeJosh.
yeah, because you cant get hurt running out a ball at first either, right Doug Meintkeivitch?
No one warming up in the Sox pen. Beckett will go to either 125 or a bad inning.
Not that I’m saying Farnsworth has been close to what the yanks though he’d be or knocking Tom Gordon…. but Gordon hasnt exactly been great this year. i think if we signed Gordon we’d be ticked off with him as well. when Farnsy has control he’s pretty good.
viz for 2 mo for 1?
i DO NOT want to see farnsworth.
Why, NYR, do you insist on the extremes…black or white…can you not accept there are gray areas?
Farnsworth, as often has been said by Guidry, Torre, Stottlemeyer (sp?), and others, is most dominant when he has good location and good movement on his pitches. His resurgence can be attributed to both. Again, it is not one issue.
You really need to relax and not take everything personally when you don’t have all of the answers. Realize there are a multitude of things a pitcher needs to do to be successful.
Sliding had first if you dive when you are within in a bodies length of the base. You dive and touch the base. If you slide10 feet from the base, you definitely slow yourself down.
k
a chance to absolutely bury beckett and you only get 3 runs (all in one inning) on 12 hits. lets just win this game so it doesnt matter. but tehy need more runs that that.
Vizcaino usually struggles more in a second inning. Could get interesting.
More of a chance getting hurt sliding into a bag than runing through it. You apparently didn’t read Bob Ryan’s piece.
Who was that shortstop a few years ago that slid in at third on opening day versus Toronto and blew out his shoulder the first few months of that season, I forgot?
Sliding at first is the last thing a runner should do.
Sliding is dumb going into first. What is with the all the algebra? It is what it is.
Phil- Farnsworth does not have movement on his fastabll. Neve has, never will. You are an idiot if you think his fastball magically started moving. If thats the case Im gonna wake up tomorrow and have 10 more mph on my fastball.
too many missed opportunities tonight, too many chances to break the game open have been missed. odds are, they’ll pay for it.
Phil-
Geez, I misspelled it Irabu, not Arabu. there was that joke – Hideki I-Rob-You.
yeah, he taped/glued about 100 quarter sized round magnets to his undershirt. they looked like fishing weights.
Shamus
THAT WAS JETER WHAT DO I WIN?!?!
Did anyone catch that movement Posada made just before Vizcaino threw the 0-2 pitch? Almost like he was frustrated Viz was staring in.
*2007* if Johnny runs through he causes a tie, when he dives he increases the risk to injure himself the pitcher could step on his hand, jam his fingure..etc.
P.S. *Nardi Contreras* got his name out there again anything that Nardi recommends should never be questioned
2 out.
I never knew about the magnets…that only adds some more humor to the ‘fat toad’ comment. The magnets were adding to his bloated look.
ROCCO wins! Rocco Wins! ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOCCCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOO wiiiiiiiii-nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnsss! ! ! !
bb
WOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
3-1
come on Viz. Bear down.
Shamus – small world indeed, and I believe you about the atmosphere for Yankee fans. LOL
Viz doesn’t look too sharp so far.
6 damn walks
Who let the Viz out? Boo! Boo! Boo!
“Kenji Jo Jo ma”
lol nice name
Walks the lugo. terrible.
Pedroia. Sounds like some thing you catch in a Jersey reststop bathroom…
NYR – this is my last response to you because I don’t appreciate you always calling people “idiots” just because they don’t agree with your opinion.
Movement on a pitch is not adding “10 mph to your fastball.” It can occur in a number of ways. Late tailing. It can rise. It can sink. Too many ways to mention.
Farnsworth does have movement on his fastball when he is on, according to Torre, both of his pitching coaches from the past decade, Leo Mazzone, Bobby Cox, and many others. If you know better than all of them, good for you.
This is clearly going to be Viz in the 7th, Farnsworth in the 8th, Mo in the 9th.
All right, Viz made it through.
in a way this is good Papi leads off the inning
Nobody beats The Viz!
WHO PITCHED THE 8TH????
If i see farnsworth i will poke my eyes out.
*NOBODY BEATS THE VIZ*….:)
Anybody just catch that look aand the words from beckett when he realized it was God Bless America time
K-Ram or Farnsie for the 8th?
Will Joba close tomorrow then?
I hope Beckett’s arm fall off here and needs Tommy John.
Good job by the Viz.
With Ortiz leading off next inning you *have* to go with Farnsworth. He’s pitched well as of late and has very good numbers against the Red Sox.
I’m hoping we blow the game open though so we can see some Chris “Great” Britton.
You don’t slide into first. Its false hustle and a dumb play. Just run through the base. But, that’s over.
Turns out to be a smart walk by Vizcaino because Ortiz can now start the 8th with nobody on base.
Would be nice to get an insurance run or two here.
did everyone see that the Sox dodged Erik Bedard in their next series with Baltimore? he is missing 1 start, so they get to face two bums and then daniel cabrera.
…both of his (Torre’s) pitching coaches…
Does Viz work the 8th?
ESPN just cut out from the 7th inning stretch! How unAmerican can you get! “God Bless America” and Yankee Stadium IS America, damn it.
gayle,
what did the primadonna do?
Kenji:
Don’t go dissing my state!
The only good aspect of NESN for Yankees fans stuck in New England ?
Falling asleep to the sights and sounds of Hazel “I-can- barely-walk-upright” Mae and Tina “I’d-like-to-service” Cervasio.
Muy bueno !
tehy better only use him 1 inning tomorrow so i can see him on saturday
This is clearly going to be Viz in the 7th, Farnsworth in the 8th, Mo in the 9th.
That will be two days in a row for Mo, which means the optimum for tomorrow will be Wang for 8, Joba in the 9th.
If all that plays out, the short-term BP assignments will become fairly clear.
The caveat to all of these best laid plans is exactly what SJ44 has been saying for so long… good starting pitching. After that, the game management is easy.
global – britton has not fared well against boston (at least from all the games i saw last year). keep him for the teams like tampa bay.
Farns has been a pleasant surprise his last few outings. But if Steve Phillips mentions that, we’re screwed.
I didnt call you an idiot, I said if you thought something so ridiculous, you have to be an idiot. 2 weeks ago you gave methe whole argument about how Farnsworth couldnt be successful because he has a straight fastaball. Now that he has been very good the past 7 outtings, Farnsworth has movement on his fastball because it goes with your theory. Talk about being a hypocrite.
Anybody else notice the face Beckett just made coming out for the 7th when they started to play God Bless America. What a classless jerk.
“K-Ram or Farnsie for the 8th?”
Ed-…..WAR!!!!!!!!
Did anyone just notice Beckett grimace and curse under his breath when he ran out to the mound and hear Shepperd announce God Gless America? Commie.
I agree. You go to Farnsworth in the 8th. That’s the play.
When he is right, his fastball does have movement. Watch how much trouble Jorge has catching it when its right. It has good movement.
When he tries to overthrow it, that’s when its straight as an arrow and guys can get on top of it.
Santana 1st Inning: 4 runs, > 40 pitches
Santana COB 6IP, 4 Runs
Unbelievable
I would find it hard to have any respect for Beckett. That’s just my opinion, though. Nobody asked me!
OH CRAP FARNSY !!!
…Steve Phillps.
*sheesh*
Can’t he go on a misson to Iran or something?
oh jesus no
joba ???
Beckett really is a jerk. a good friend of mine works with the sox and knows all the players pretty well. he said beckett is one of the cockiest and biggest jerks he has ever met. he said papelbon is pretty cocky and sort of a jerk but not in the same league as beckett. and my friend is obviously a Sox fan so he wants to like them and they have to be pretty bad for him to not.
yankees better score 5 runs here if they want to win
He tries to be too arrogant, like a younger Rah-Jah. What a jerk. Have some class. No wonder he plays for Boston, a classless horses ass.
Kenji as others described he was running out full force to the mound then when Sheppard announced please rise he halted gave a little roll of the eyes and an “for (insert four letter word” sake thing going on
We’ll know early with Farnsworth. Not only is Papi the opening gig, but if he is “rushing the plate”, and not staying back before breaking for home, he will get some heavy whiplash.
May I just say once again that I loathe Steve Phillips…..He’s an absolute jerk, who just happens to hate the Yanks…….He bashes the Yanks at every turn….He harps on the Joba rule, then moves on to something else to rag on…..
*Don Vito Bellamo* he pitched yesterday under the laws of JOBA RULES he skips a day for each inning
Come on team. Make them work. A-Rod has not been lights out.
was the beckett shot on NESN YES or ESPN2?
Steve Phillips = GM of the decade.
NOT!
Owner of the worst trade in the last five years— a young prospect named Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano.
Stick that in your commie pipe!
You knew that was coming.
MVP MVP MVP!!!!
*RALLY FARNSY !!!!!!!!!!* …
oh yes thank you arod
Look an A-BOMB!!!!
44!!!
Beckett really is a jerk. A good friend of mine works for the Sox and knows the players all pretty well. my friend says he is one of the biggest jerks he has ever met. He said papelbon is kind of but notacc in the same league as Beckett. he is a die-hard Sox fan and wants to like them all so you have to be pretty bad for him to say that.
I TOLD you ARod would make up for the baserunning blunder with #44!
I felt it too. I frickin felt it. I saw it in his eyes after he took the first ball.
i called that !
SJ- YOu must be hallucinating. The only difference with Farnsworth is he has better location. Throughout his career he has never had movement on his fastball. He has always been known for it and it is not gonna change.
WOOHOOO
MVP!
MVP!
MVP!
Dammit. I wanted to call it. Go ARod regardless.
I wonder if he knows how many people his age are dying everyday in the Middle East while he plays a kids game for millions of dollars a year.
It won’t kill you to stand at attention for a minute or two….
Go A-Rod. Captain America!
take that josh, you commie !!!
“Stick that in your commie pipe!”
Bahahahaha!!!
This the way I like it – A-HA, A-HA~~~~
yes~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Im surprised they left Bucket in there that long. Thats a big run.
wooooooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooooo
see ya beckett!
kaplow !!!!
YES ! ALEX ! MVP !
somebody called that HR earlier in the thread. i’m not the only one with ESP, evidently.
It was on the YES feed…I don’t know about ESPN.
Is Beckett a Commie? I just thought he was a yahoo and a obscurant.
so sad that no one ever gives the BIG MVP chant for Arod….. He will get it in September, but it wont be loud at all….. Hope I am wrong
Did someone say ‘movement’???
Right on, Phil ….
A HUGE insurance run.
Kyle has to attack the hitters in the 8th. No walks. Go after guys and don’t give them free passes.
If they hit you, that’s baseball. Walking guys with a 3 run lead? Can’t do it.
He just has to do what he has been doing his last 7 times out. Pound the strikezone and trust your stuff.
OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boston Dave,
Other yourg players with that attitude have been in MLB. Should surgery humbled them a lot…
_May I just say once again that I loathe Steve Phillips…..He’s an absolute jerk, who just happens to hate the Yanks…….He bashes the Yanks at every turn….He harps on the Joba rule, then moves on to something else to rag on….._
Why do so many people care what Steve Phillips thinks?
kill schill – read my post earlier. beckett is a confirmed arse.
or are we just Red(sux)-Baiting?
Did anyone else think beckett rolling his eyes during the 7th inning moment of silence was disrespectfull?
This is kind of late but….
I find it hilarious that orel hersh on espn said that he thinks its insullting to torre that he is not allowed to manage the arm of Joba out of the Pen, clearly Orel doesnt wathc or pay attention to the reckcless abuse that happens to our relievers arms…I mena for god sake there is a blog called named after one of our ex-relievers arm…haha
The whole emphasis with Farnsworth is NOT TO OVERTHROW. He can such a meathead sometimes that he wants to muscle up and throw it through a wall. Any one who knows anything about pitching knows that the harder you throw, the less movement you get. His natural motion and arm slot is enough to generate good late movement (because of the velocity) and makes him more effective.
WOW. So many people saw that coming? That tells you how good ARod has been in the late situations this year.
Oh, I know he’s an a-hole. That I wouldn’t deny. But I have nothing against commies.
RALLY FARNSY
Gotta go to bed and Tivo the rest of this. early deadline in AM. G’night guys and gals. Hopefully I can wake up and not hear the words…
“And then Rivera / Farnsworth served up….”
make that…. FOURTEEN hits and counting…. how bad the Sox and their vastly superior pitching staff!!!!!
Boston Dave, I have seen Beckett be an ahole also at Marlins games when I lived in FL. He would never sign for anyone, even kids! You’d think he’d be appreciative of all 10 people that attend Marlins games but guess not..
*bout
“Beckett really is a jerk. A good friend of mine works for the Sox and knows the players all pretty well.”
Of course.
Hip Hip….
“Since winning Game 6 in 2003, Beckett has an 8.10 ERA against the Yanks in seven starts.”
Unfortunately, that little tidbit will never stop ESPN from harping back to that Game 6 performance.
Jorge !!!!!!!!!!
It is OK for you to freak out, Mr. Lopez…
Timlin … anybody for batting practice?
Stop with the Orel and Phillips action…
I guess that squirel would love those two nuts.
Time for the Andy Phillips bloop special!
BBB, i believe that. makes it even easier to root against him.
i thought it was funny when Arod was on the front pages with a mystery woman earlier. if people only knew what the married Sox players did. there might be 2 or 3 faithful players on the entire team (at least this was the case as of last season).
commmmmme on torre bring in duncan right here.
Boston Dave,
Let’s not go too crazy… this is just one more playoff game in the string of 40-50 playoff games left this season.
Granted the Red Sox are not playing scintilating ball since the break, but they haven’t had to. They have been barely a .500 team since the AS break, up until that debacle in Chicago, when the AA CWS disrespected the game with their performance.
yey timlin BP pitcher!
Interesting what you posted about Hershiser. While watching the 6pm SportsCenter, he and Phillips were talking about the Joba Rules and Orel said he agreed with them and they were needed to protect the pitchers regardless of how well they pitch.
Peter, don’t sell Beckett short here. He pitched well, Clemens simply lucked out all night.
4 Runs in 7 or some odd innings @ The Yankees? That’s fricking great.
Am I the only one sick of the ESPN announcers complaining about the Joba rules?
Generally I hate it when fans complain about “bias” in sportswriters, but this just irks me. Partly because they’re asking questions that you would hope a professional sports commentator would have looked up before the game (”Do you think Cashman had anything to do with the Joba rules?”).
Bah. Get it done, Yankees. This would be a big win.
I know carolinanyy. They have lit him up ever since then, but all you ever hear out of John Kruk’s fat mouth (aside from ‘now I;m not the fat slob my wife said I used to be before Slimfast!’) is what a ‘gutsy performance’ this ‘big kid from Texas’ had against the Yankees…. six trips to the DL ago….
Boston Dave,
It doesn’t count if the players cheat on their wives with each other. That’s the Veritek Rule.
Bobcat, what do you mean? what did I say?
Farnsworth will be fine. He’ll probably make it interesting like always but he won’t croak the lead away.
I was kind of hoping we’d see Gange.
ADKwriter- This Beckett is supposed to be untouchable. I hardly call this a good performance.
Lopez, Timlin, Gagne, Iwojima, how many of these Cy-Young caliber relievers do they have.Damn .Damn.
KEnji, Varitek’s wife is ugly and super annoying. he gets a free pass to cheat.
go to bed Shamus
Gotta love how Hershiser wondered if the Joba Rules being public had anything to do with Torre possibly overusing him.
Boston Dave,
The post about the “vastly superior” pitching staff….
Kuirticus…. I know. Its so pathetic how little most announcers actually know about the game (which is their job). If I knew that little at my job I would be fired.
Hershiser is contradicting himself from 4 hours ago.
Tek married Human? I thought he was attempting some kind of gene splicing with a sasquatch.
wow the Mets lose in Philly to a stupid interference push at 2B that prevented a DP
Farnsie is going to pitch to Ortiz, Lowell and Youkilis.
Um….
What’s the ERA of their ‘pen?
2.2-ish?
Bobcat – I am joking somewhat. All season long we’ve heard how great Boston’s staff is and how horrendous NY is. just nice to see the yanks laying yet another beatdown on the legendary and cy-young shoe-ins Beckett and Daisuke.
whelp. here goes farnsey… i will be holding my breath…
And down in Philly the Mets lose another to the Phils
Peter still postin in here?
Peter,
Has Ian showed up yet?
YES, FOR THE LOVE OF F’N G*D, STOP WITH THE F’N GUISEPPE FRANCO COMMERCIAL, PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I’m lighting the candles
BTW, as an aside… there have been a lot of negative comments regarding ESPN tonight. For all of those reasons, I have not turned my TV to ESPN in over three years. They are the biggest negative influence on our kids’ behavior on the athletic fields. Between “Jacked up”, the posturing and all the other rude behavior they glorify each and every night, I refuse to acknowledge their existence.
I remember when MNF first came on and if I now need to partake, I listen on the radio.
Don’t worry Rebecca. New Farnsworth. I’m cautiously optimistic. That insurance run enables Farnsworth to throw gas.
You’ll know early if he’s throwing strikes, we’re okay.
Go Kyle – attack that zone!!!
John Maddening taking a nap. LOL!
I’ll give Kyle a stripe if he mows down Ortiz and a 1-2-3 here. he’s starting to earn some.
The Scranton manager has got to be pissed heading into the playoffs…he has no Joba, no Hughes, no Ramirez, no Britton, and now no Kennedy to pitch.
My hair is thinning. Anyone know of some good product so that it appears that I have a full head of hair?
98 high and tight would have been better
CANT WAIT TO HEAR FROM/SEE Kennedy!!!
cmon Kyle… buckle down
Scortch it to Posada.
what’s farnsy got going on under his jersey? is that a camo t-shirt or a tattoo?
Nice sequence.
Pop out. Otiz …HE GONE!
one down, two to go!!!
go Kyle…………
every compliment Micheal Kay gives FARNSY I say another prayer
“ADKwriter- This Beckett is supposed to be untouchable. I hardly call this a good performance.”
Whoever said he was untouchable? I never did. I’m just saying his performance tonight was more than respectable.
Camo. He always wears that.
camo shirt – farnsworth is a total redneck
Farnsworth has the tough inning. This is the “save” inning.
Philips is a twit and Anal Hershiser ought to deck him.
Farnsey is a hunter…he is stalking unemployment.
99mph on nesn
thanks kjjm — must be farnsy’s nod to the Deer Hunter.
Girardi, 2006 NL Manager of the Year, just mentioned Farnsworth’s “late run” on his ball tonight. I think we’re in good shape for a decent outing.
why is jeter SO far away from that ball lol
NESN SUCKS
he stinks!
I looked it up! Article 3.1, page 6, line 28 of the Varitek Rules clearly stipulates: “What the Red Sox do in the shower room doesn’t count as cheating on their wives.”
If you look on page 7, line 18, it’s clear that ugly wives do indeed give a player free reign, so what he does with the guys in the shower is just of his free will.
Goooooo captian …
Um…
Does anyone think Ian Kennedy could be a Jered weaver type of pitcher? He doesnt throw too hard but locates all 4 of his pitches and can throw them in any count. I think that is what I am expecting from Kennedy. (or hoping for)
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F&^%*^*^
ugh – that was actually a good pitch to youk
CRAP, damnit kyle
I hate you Kyle.
FARNSWORTH WHY?!?!?! FRIGGIN HELL PICK ANOTHER GAME TO DO THAT!
PULL HIM. HE WILL GIVE UP AN HR to Varitek right now. PULL HIM!
oh no.
damn.
God I saw it coming…
Thats what happens when you miss location and you have no movement
I hate to say it but I saw that coming…
Yikes. That’s too bad. Farnsworth was starting to look pretty good.
did i ever tell you guys i hate farnsworth? what a big home run that was by arod now…..
Farnsworthless
I want Mo!!!!
Oh…nevermind. its Nancy. not varitek. my bad
That A-Rod homer is huge now.
For some reason, I think Mattingly might get the nod over Girardi if Torre is gone next year. For two reasons: 1) Girardi’s alleged poor handling of his young Marlins pitchers and 2) Girardi clashed with the GM whereas Mattingly hasn’t done either (but hasn’t been in a position to do so, either).
i didnt see the gun on that pitch but it must have been 96 and on the paint on the inside corner. just gotta give youk credit. he hit jorges spot.
Bring in Edwar, he’ll be fine for 2 batters.
Did anyone else notice how fast Guidry got on the phone after that shot?
Props to Youkilis on that one. Good hitter hit a pretty good pitch, just bad location.
Nice one Farnsey. Real nice.
This is why you will never be a big game pitcher.
Get out of the inning gorp-head.
adkwriter,
i am a Yankee fan but I think Beckett is turning out to be a ine pitcher. On the other hand, he is a jerk. When he was traded to Boston by the Marlins,teammates found him to be arrogant, rude and vulgar, according to newspapers aricles. Even some clubhouse attendants said Beckett was horrible.
there you go. now the missed opportunities seem quite a bit bigger.
five outs left. anyone feel comfortable with a one-run lead and joba unavailable?
farsny will be ok.
The old Kyle Farnsworth we know and loathe has returned after a two week disappearance. Also is there any reason why our $1 million a start pitcher can’t go more than 6 innings??
This is key… if Farnsworth doesn’t panic and muscle up, he’ll get through it.
im pissed about the hr but u cant blame kyloe for that, he put it where it was supposed to go
nice siging drew by the red sox lol…. seems like he always strikes out in big situations.
“Drew goes down on strikes.”
Hello Mr. Strikes, how have you been?
“1) Girardi’s alleged poor handling of his young Marlins pitchers ”
Alleged? Two Tommy John surgeries and the continued decline of Dontrelle Willis don’t serve as proof?
What is up with Hinske’s hair? A Mohawk in 2007?
This is where A-Rod’s baserunning blunder comes back to haunt us. We would have at least a 2 run cushion, if not more.
OH THIS SOMAMABITCH IS GOING TO IMPLODE NOW !!
Drew is signed for 5 years…Super.
I typed alleged only because I don’t really follow the Marlins.
“Also is there any reason why our $1 million a start pitcher can’t go more than 6 innings??”
He’s 45?
Farnsworth is awesome, he is my favorite pitcher and you are all stupid heads for saying otherwise and I am nine years old. He can throw 101, I can throw almost 45 and one day I will throw as fast as the great Kyle Farnsworth!!!!11
stay with the cheese kyle.
this is getting stupid
Farnsey with the pure heat.
Phil: Don’t you know the 80s are so in right now?
Give ‘em the heater, Ricky.
I WANT MO!!!!!
Nice.
someone kick farnsworth in the throat
gotta go to Mo
well, it’s in mo’s hands now.
thanks for the memories, farns.
of course if 1 man reaches, ortiz comes up in the 9th
Coco.
Not a name you want in prison or hunting camp with the Farns…
Thats the Kyle Farnsworth you get in big games. We cant rely on him
Yes…I just never expected to see the ’80s come back on a 38 year-old guy’s head in the form of a mohawk. (and a bad mohawk that looks like it came from Supercuts, at that.)
1 inning tonight and hopefully 1 plus from Rivera today. Think Joba is our closer for tomorrow. You can use him in the 8th for 2 tomorrow. Not huge if you lose him for 2 days against the D-Rays.
Joe Torre why you take out Kyle Farnsworth you are a bad man and my dad says you will die of cholestrol poisoning. You are all stupid idiots and Kyle Farnsworth is the greatest pitcher who will be in the Hall of Fame next year. I can throw 50 miles per hour and one day I will throw 105 like Kyle Farnsworth!!!
This would be where the loosening of the Joba Rules would have helped us…would have kept Mo out of a two-inning save.
Come on.
K the fool.
please god let that Alex Rodriguez HR be the difference
we wont need a closer tomorrow after we blow out schilling.
Go NYR – Every time the hitter guesses location right, you can’t use hindsight and say the bat hit the ball therefore the location was bad.
Now I wasn’t watching when the pitch came in … I just looked when it was landing. So, I don’t know how the at-bat went and whether the location on that pitch was good or not. Maybe the old Farnsworth was pitching instead of the Farnsworth of the last week and a half.
BUT … fact of the matter is the hitters and pitchers are both trying to outsmart each other. The location could very well be good (maybe not in this case – to reiterate I didn’t see it) but ML hitters can often anticipate what to expect.
K-out the sock puppet.
damn stupid farnsworthless! once the offseason comes along try to get rid of him! i’ll take anything for him! he cant make an outing without giving up a run!
no chance coco
Joba can’t pitch two tomorrow…he won’t have had two days of rest, according to the rules.
with farnsworth its not that result that is as bothersome as the way it came about. he threw two sliders, one for a strike to lowell, one to strike out drew, his entire appearance. he has a good slider. how about mixing it in every now and again. he wasn’t going to keep pitching as well as he was forever, but he doesn’t have to give up two run homers if they are sitting dead red on his fastball all the time.
how bout some insurance runs? 3 lefties coming up and lopez is out of the game.
4 outs is not a 2 inning save…. especially after throwing 3 pitches.
I would trade Farnsworth for Santana…straight up. Seriously. I would throw in Henn too.
I should be a GM.
FarnsworthRULES is gonna throw 100mph next week as he just gained 5 mph in the last 5 minutes. Phil, you should scout this kid. He might be your future ace
here’s what really ticks me off about farnsworth’s performance — if anyone gets on in the ninth, ortiz gets an AB. not a great scenario as the guy has been smoking the ball.
“Joba can’t pitch two tomorrow…he won’t have had two days of rest, according to the rules.”
That’s not how it works.
If he pitches 2 tomorrow, then he would need 2 days of rest *afterwards*
“This would be where the loosening of the Joba Rules would have helped us…would have kept Mo out of a two-inning save.”
Hell, using Britton or Edwar would’ve done that too.
Joba’s services weren’t required tonight.
Ranting Guy- When you see Jorge set up outside and the ball is right down the middle, you can say his location is bad
Joba rules state that if he goes 2 innings he needs 2 days rest afterwards. Not 2 days rest before as far as I know.
I thought he had to have the same number of days off before as he did after?
“I would trade Farnsworth for Santana…straight up. Seriously. I would throw in Henn too.
I should be a GM.”
Well, just think, if Steve Phillips could do it, why not you?
I heard the Schill sent his huge mouth ahead to New York to rest before his start.
I’m not as sold on Ramirez as the rest of you as an eighth inning set-up guy.
We need another run here.
come on guys.
Phil- I really dont think many people are sold on Edwar being the setup guy. He has shown brilliance but is inconsistent.
i’m very curious what they plan on doing next year for the 8th inning. we know joba is out. if they trade farnsy who do they have as a setup? no proctor. just viz ? ramirez is a 7th inning guy, i dont know if i want alot of rookies in the pen AND the rotation. hopefully cash can work his magic … or keep farnsy. but i dont’ trust him
From the NY Post’s George King:
The Rules state that the 21-year-old Joba Chamberlain needs a day off for every inning he pitches and that he can’t work two innings if he hasn’t had two days of rest.
base hit…chip chip chip.
Scott Procter tonight, 3 scoreless innings and the win. I have to root for him.
yea smack that out!
1-2-3.
Come on Mo!
LETS GO MO!
This web server needs HGH or some ‘meth.
Runs like it’s been eating paint chips from birth.
George King is wrong
if its not 1-2-3, ortiz comes up as the go ahead run… lets go mo
Anyone else just a little nervous here? I mean, I’d rather Mo than anyone else right now, but still…
Look – I’m as big a Joba fan as anyone out there. And I think he is going to be something special. But do 10 innings of work warrant him being valued more long-term than Hughes? All I’ve read this week is about Joba being our top arm – and maybe he is, but are we being too quick to judge the two studs? Does anyone else still feel the best arm we’ve got is Phil?
the todd – unless farnsy implodes they will prob keep him. doesnt make sense to trade him for very little AND pick up at least half of his contract
Rebecca i love you.
Rocco?
Rocco?
I have a small Hinskie on my left foot.
THAT inning and what we have to do for the 9th is exactly why the Joba rules BLOW, as they stand. Joba pitched yesterday, but had a 3 day break after his last 1 inning pitched…there is NO REASON not to bring in Joba to pitch the 8th and instead bring in Farnsy the Dink. That guy was on borrowed time and tonight showed that. Now we have to take a shakey MO into the 9th to give us a 4 out save and if anyone gets on base, Ortiz comes to bat as at least the go ahead run. This could have ALL been avoided with Joba in for the 8th IMO…but that is all that is…JMO !
all that said…MO WILL DO IT !!!
Boston Dave?
Lugo poo tinky.
Don Vito…. Mo is shaky?
You guys are using the Joe Torre method of bullpen usage. Unless it’s your relief ace (Mariano), then always, always, always have a second guy warming up.
Put Edwar in, but have Britton and Kyle F ready to go if he struggles.
Rocco… just thought your comment to rebecca was odd.
Don? Where’s the Love?
A-ROD !!!
Don – the obvious sentiment is we should have brought Joba in – but if Farnsworth had a scoreless inning we’d all be praising Torre and the bullpen for having 4 reliable guys. Up 3 that is absolutely the right move, no need to bend the rules in a 3 run game. A one run game with a week left in the season, yes. Now, when the game seemed to be in hand – no way you risk ANYTHING w Joba.
Pete, Mo may not be available tomorrow, but it’s worth nailing this one down. And, you know, there’s this other guy who WILL be available…
Two strikes to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One strike to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ped-roida – Anal inflamation on infants.
.
MO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mo looking sharp. 3 batters, 9 pitches. 3 outs. 1 to go
OUT! come on
*TIED*
Now it’s on to Schilling, and let’s sink his krispy kreme rear
Great game, everybody.
Luck be a lady, tomorrow afternoon!!
THERE YOU GO CONO !!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy Moly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cue Sinatra.
BOOOYAH!!
WOW rivera looked awesome there coming off the mound.
Just Mo being Mo….
Theeeeee Yankees win!!!
I love you MO!!!!!!!!!!
Justin – I disagree…but I won’t call you any names !
how come there were no Sox trolls tonight?
6 back and IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR AGAIN !
YANKEES WIN…..TTTTTHHHHHEEEEEEE YAAAAANNNNNNKKKKKEEEESSS WWWIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!
thank god for MO!!!
Tomorrow’s game is HUGE. Can’t let the Sox up off the mat.
I would say Giambi doesn’t make that play…nice Andy…
Good win
Mo does it again!!!!!
Boston math for the first post?
Farnsworth just wanted to improve our record in 1 run games.
How gratifying is it after everything that happened the 1st 3 months of the season that we are now tied for the WC!! God I love this team!!!
Ahhhh. The Wangster vs. 38hotdogs tomorrow. Bring it!
Kim Jones’s looks are on the same trajectory as Mussina’s career.
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
too bad i cant watch tomorrows game because i have to work… ugh.
Shulman and Hershisher need to console Phillips in the booth and keep him away from any sharp objects!!
If only the Yankees didn’t sh*t the bed vs. DET/LA. Boston would be in flames
Mo looked particularly amazing tonight, too. so have perma-grin right now! Mo is the GOAT and A-Rod for MVP!!!!
2007 NY Yankees – Win one for the Scooter!!
Don – That’s fine if you disagree. But the fact of the matter is – its a 3 run game. And you don’t put such a valuable arm into a 3 run game if you don’t absolutely have to. If you start doing that, where do you draw the line? Any time we are ahead and its after the 6th, we should use Joba?
“Ahhhh. The Wangster vs. 38hotdogs tomorrow. Bring it!”
LOOOOOL
There is only one closer and his name is MO!
thank god for mo. farnsworth and the offense did their best to make sure the red sox hung around.
good win.
Farnsworth may be back to normal but so is Rivera!!! Could you use a sundial to time Hinske “running” to first after a weak groundball? All players should hustle but especially the scrubs who need impress GMs to keep jobs. Or start practicing your “Welcome to WalMart” greetings.
The Yankees win with an outstanding outing by Mo. I like the chances for the sweep with tomorrow’s match up- Wang vs Schilling. THen its six out- who says we are out of the division race?
THANK YOU ALEX !!!
THANK YOU MO !!!
LET GO FOR 3 IN A ROW TOMORROW NO EXCUSES, BLOODY SOCK MUST GET PUMMELED !!
Once again, G-d is a Yankee Fan.
Uh… Season Series against the Sox is 7-7 with 4 games left.
honestly, the Sox lineup looked pathetic tonight. Without Manny they look average at best. The division is going to be tough but the Yanks should be able to make it interesting. One thing is for sure, the Sox fear the Yanks.
Justin,
Great point. And that has been Joe Torre’s problem over the recent past. With Gordon especially, it was “it’s a 5 run game but could be 3 soon, so let’s use him.” It leads to burn-out.
that was one hard throw by mo to andy. I think andy was scared
VT Yankeefan: We win tomorrow, we’re five out.
Someone tell the ESPN crew that Ortiz is still on deck!! HAHA!!
with a sweep – 5 out and lots of momentum…. if Ian Kennedy is even decent.. LOOK OUT!!
Cringe does not even remotely describe the feeling when I see him come out of the bullpen. Once again, he almost blows the game… get him off the 40 man roster asap.
Does this make Mariano available tomorrow?
Go NYR:
Under normal circumstances, Mo should probably have the day off, but:
1) this is the Red Sox
2) Torre has the wheel
3) Mo will want the ball
4) Mo had two very easy outings the last two days (the most important factor)
man i hate steve phillips.
Terry Francona said Manny will be out “multiple days”. Same with Kielty.
What did Steve Phillips do now?
Being that the Red Sox aren’t going to have Manny for a week, the division could really be in reach. They are nowhere near as scary when he is on the bench.
Manny told Tina Cervasio that he would be out “about 10 days”.
Just from watching the end of the game when Pedroia was up. He is sitting there saying ‘don’t try and hit it out, just get on base and let Ortiz hit you in’.. crap like that. It’s really wishful thinking to look for objective sportscasters from ESPN..
Ugh, sign him up for NESN. He’d love it.
I’m at work tomorrow, surrounded by RSux fans.
If the Yankees win, I’ll work for free!
Swee(p/t)!
As I indicated earlier, ESPN is four-letter word in our house. Steve Phillips (who should not be employed by the network that fired Harold Reynolds for the exact same crime that Phillips committed) is one of many reasons.
I still have faith in Farnsworth…
he has pitched quite well lately… Youk just nailed a 96mph fastball that wasnt too badly located…it was off the plate and inside.
I must be huffing fumes or something, I can’t really explain my farnsworth faith.
You’re right rebecca, 5 out’s even better! Bring out the broom!
I have no clue why people still have faith in Farnsworth either, im just sick of everyone waiting for him to perform. How many games are we going to bring him in and “wait” for him to get outs. As I mentioned earlier, he was on a one way track to blowing the game, which wouldn’t be the first or second time.. I don’t get it
Thank you, Clemens and MO!!!!!!! Glad Manny’s out, and hope Wang has a good game tomorrow. Farnsy is still scary. The boys fought hard tonight. Damon wanted so bad to make it to first that one play. Love to see the heart they’re all playing with!! GO YANKEES!!!!!
great job by rivera the last two nights.
i know he hasn’t had to work too hard either night, but pitching two nights in a row is pitching two nights in a row, especially against the sox with one of them being for four outs.
so i’d stay away from him tomorrow. tomorrow’s game would be great to get, but we don’t need to wear mo down again like we did two weeks ago. when he’s rested, he’s his old self, like the last two nights. seattle is coming in four days, and those games are all just as important, if not more important, as tomorrow’s, no matter how bad we want to sweep the red sox.
let viz set up and joba close.
if you’d rather have Britton or Edwar facing the heart of the sox order in the 8th inning…. I’d have to greatly disagree with you, even taking Farnsworth choking tendencies into consideration.
With Viscaino and Joba off the board in the 8th.. Farnswoth has to be the guy
LETS GO YANKEES!!!
Great. Bedard is out for his next start against the Red Sox because of a sore muscle. But everyone knows he’ll be right there against the Yankees.
Tell me what is the point to put him in when he can’t close out the inning? He isn’t a utility pitcher last time I checked. Fact of the matter is obviously a 3 run lead isn’t enough to keep the guy in for the entire inning.
Guess who our closer is tomorrow night? YES!
Steve Phillips can go….
you can fill in the blank.
Stef….
tomorrow afternoon. 1 pm start.
Just for the heck of it… this in from the Scranton game…
IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
White (W, 6-4) 7.0 3 0 0 5 7 0 3.34
Oh, and by the way, tomorrow ends the “20 game back-breaking schedule run that will ruin the Yankees chances of making the postseason”
A win would give them a 12-8 (.600) record in that stretch. Even 11-9 isn’t all that terrible.
Farnsworthless just lost whatever worth he recovered in the past couple of games.
We might not have won it if it wasn’t for #508. MVP.
Tomorrow should be a sweep. Wanger back in shape, no Manny in the line-up, Joba available (I hope for 2 innings). GO YANKEES
Darrin: You’re right.
Everyone thought it would break us, and even after that massacre from Detroit it seemed that, but then Seattle picked a helluva time to start losing, and, well, whaddya know?
Yogi Berra is *so* right:
It ain’t over til it’s over.
And after tomorrow? We can feast, if only for three days, on the bounty that is Tampa Bay!
That’s right. We have held up very well through the stretch of games that was supposed to sink us. I have a really good feeling about this team right now. I’m looking forward to the opportunity to sweep Boston tomorrow and hopefully Seattle can trip up at Cleveland. Take care everyone, and let’s get our sweep tomorrow!!
in case you’re wondering – i wore the clemens shirt. it worked.
yankees, baby!
If we lose tomorrow, we’ll 7 back – and would seem as though we’ve accomplish nothing.
Finished watching this game at work after we threw out the last bar patrons. Felt kind of silly cheering on Mo in a empty bar / restaurant, but you do what you can.
Great showing by Clemens, almost like he had an axe to grind against Boston (sarcasm on) … nice solo shot by Alex and another lights out performance by Mariano.
As for tomorrow, I’d love to see Alex beat up on the Schill again…
Yanks miss Kazmir and Shields (not that Shields worries me) in the Tampa series. Can you say 30+ runs?
though they see king felix and washburn (who pitches well against the yanks) after that. gotta take 2 of 3 there.
The Sox already go thru weird run scoring slumps — look at all those Dice K losses — and without Manny? This is a fairly ordinary lineup. And no one in their right mind will pitch to Ortiz as a result.
Sure, the odds are long re the AL East title. But if Manny is out for an extended absence? Cut ‘em in half.
are we going to hit 1000 posts?
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Throughout June and July, all the “experts” kept saying that the Yanks were finished because it seemed so unlikely that they would win 95 this year, and it seems that 95 is the number to reach annually to win the AL Wildcard. Well…as I brought up about a month ago, I think this season is different, and it may only take 90 wins for the WildCard this season.
Consider…right now the only viable wild card contenders are the Yankees, Mariners, and Tigers. Think the Tigers are gonna win 95 this year? They’d have to finish 24-5. Just to win 90 Detroit needs to go 19-10, which will be pretty damn difficut.
And I don’t think Seattle’s winning 95 either. I don’t see a 22-9 finish for the Mariners. Frankly, I’m no longer sure they’re going to even make 90.
In my humble opinion, the Yankees have the best chance to reach 95, as they’d have to finish 21-8 which would be similar to their really hot post-All Star game stretch.
Can they actually win the East? For that to happen, they’d have to win tomorrow and sweep Boston up there in two weeks. Then they’d have to make up 2 games elsewhere. Is it possible? Sure, but without a doubt, if the Yankees miraculously pass the Red Sox, Boston will still be in the playoffs.
For Boston to not make the playoffs at all from their current position would take a collapse of historic proportions.
Evening everyone!! I just got home from the game. Had a bunch of Baston fans sitting in front of me. Wow were they annoying. Screaming Rogers old, he sucks take him out. I said if he is old and sucks why would you want him out of the game? Also every deep fly ball they thought was a homerun. We probably had the best vantage point, so were able to tell it was just a fly out. We joked on the next foul out, it’s gone, they looked back and actually thought, that we thought that. They couldn’t tell we were ragging on them. Also i kept throwing in their faces their lines. Like good eye, when the Yankees layed of a pitch i said that same. LOL
Anyway to the game. Roger pitched a gritty game, didn’t look like he had his best stuff, but somehow he pitched a no hitter till the 6th. I had to leave in the middle of the 7th, damn mass transit!! I was walking down the street to the port authority and i hear that the score is 4-3 I just knew our friend was the one who gave up the runs. And of course Mo had to come in to save the day!
Why wait to make a roster move until Saturday. Than he won’t be available for the post season/
I think we’ve learned by now not to believe what we are told or read…. stuff changes everyday.
jennifer-
he will still be eligible. he can replace one of the injured guys (like Pavano) on the 40 man now.
Also Paul Mcartney was in the house, they played his hit single and kept showing him on the screen. Was getting loud cheers. Lavern (sp) from Lavern and Shirley was also there. She got some cheers, but none was louder than Paul’s.
I would laugh sooooooo hard if those Beantown bums didn’t make the playoffs. oh man.
But Pete said the roster move won’t be made until Saturday. And Saturday is the 1st. Too late for ps.
I’ve learned long ago not to listen to the experts. Especially ESPN.
Baseball is pure guesswork anyway. The only thing baseball guarantees is that the best teams almost always make the postseason because of how long the season lasts. But once you’re in a 5 game series? Who knows?
All the Boston fans are so confident that they’ll win a short series because their top 3 (Beckett, Dice, Schill) are the best. Big deal. What if Beckett has a wild outing? Schilling is off his game just a little? Their offense goes into a short-term snooze? Boom – out of the playoffs over a long weekend.
It can be turned around in the Yanks favor, too. I heard on local radio today (So Cal) that the Angels aren’t worried about facing the Yankees because their starting pitching is so terrible. Really? What if Pettitte is on his game? Or Wang’s sinker is working? Or Clemens has an outing like tonight?
In baseball, the playoffs are a total crapshoot.
jennifer – where were you sitting?
Awesome Jennifer that you got to see such a big win in person. My buddy was there last night. He stil has the season tickets we used to share and every time he is at a game, he sends me a text that says simply “Enter Sandman” when MO comes in. I didn’t get one tonight so I assume he wasnt there.
I haven’t been to the Stadium at all this year, but did see the one game they won out here against the Giants, and the win against the As.
I hate you Kyle Farnsworth!
My 3 steps to fixing our pitching**
1) Keep Ian Kennedy as our #5 in the rotation. Move Mussina into the pen as our long arm and let Britton take Farnsworth’s spot.
2) Hit Farnsworth with the team bus!
3) Repeat step 2.
How much hair dye is Paul McCartney using nowadays? His younger brother Mike McGear was completely gray 20 years ago.
At least the Kyle Rules prevent him from being used tomorrow.
38Pustules.com is dog meat in the third game
Hey, Jennifer. How was the game? lol.
Thanks so much for the score text info.
I’m six hours behind, so your game time is my drive time. I used it several times to keep up with the score. Kyle could’ve really driven a nail through their heart, but otherwise it was good,huh?
“When he is right, his fastball does have movement. Watch how much trouble Jorge has catching it when its right. It has good movement.”
You can talk about this jokes movement all you want. The bottom line is major league hitters have been creaming him for 8+ years now. For all of his wonderful recent success, Farnsworthless has made ulcer inducing messes almost every single time, escaping with his life. Tonight he wasn’t so lucky picking up his dreadful and predictable path towards destruction. He still represents a tremendous problem in our pen and can single handedly unravel EVERYTHING this team has accomplished.
The Yanks will have to amend the Joba rules because as they stand now they simply don’t make sense. He should be on a strict pitch count, something that will protect his arm, without benching him needlessly in critical opportunities.
The rules will and need to change, otherwise there was little reason to bring him up in the first place. Expect to hear about the amendment soon.
BJ
I was in section 21 last row! I think i was in a different hemisphere. LOL
Anyway we had a great view of all the flyouts by the red sox players.