Game 150: Orioles at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Sep 17, 2007 
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Here is the lineup:
YANKEES
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui LF
Posada C
Giambi DH
Cano 2B
Mientkiewicz 1B
Hughes RHP (3-3, 4.91)
Pregame chatter: Yanks are facing RHP Daniel Cabrera (9-16, 5.37). …
Check out the blog WFAN’s Sweeny Murti did on his weekend in Boston. For a radio guy, that Murti can write. The benefits of a Penn State education, I guess.
UPDATE, 7:14 p.m.: The Yankees are 1-4 in games following a series against the Red Sox. The Red Sox are 1-4 in those games as well. The Yankees have been outscored 36-29 in those five games, the Red Sox have been outscored 32-29.
That should tell you something about the emotion the teams put into the games each other. Meanwhile, I’m listening to the radio and John and Suzyn seem personally offended that Phil Hughes gave up two runs. “And there’s not an out in the Baltimore lineup!” Sterling said. Well, there must me an out or two someplace. They’re 64-84
I’m giving baseball a break tonight and going for a walk with my iPod then to a movie. Enjoy the game.
Hope we see Bad Daniel today. Ejected in the Boston game, no suspension?
He was suspeneded 6 games if I recall.
Ever wonder how the Yankees get so much young talent? Here’s how they do it, and how the Red Sox counter.
http://octobersox.blogspot.com/
Okay guys:
Don’t worry, I’ve seen squirrels today!
Anyway:
*We need to pick a player to rag on!*
Seriously. It worked with Giambi, Matsui and the Mient Man…
Very nice.
He is appealing a 6 game suspension. That’s why he is available tonight.
Tonight is the night the bats need to come alive again. Except for two 8th innings (Friday and last night), the bats were quiet all last week.
The way you beat the bad teams is to pound them and pound them early.
At this stage of the year, you get an early 4-5 run lead against teams that have nothing to play for, they go quietly into the night.
The Yankees inability to beat the Orioles this season is what’s keeping them out of first place. Time to change the karma and tonight is the perfect time to do it.
Thanks, all.
It seems that Damon throw harder in left than in center. Is that an optical illusion or what?
re-sign doug m. for next year. His glove is still great for a late inning defensive replacement. Who knows how Phillips wrist turns out.
I mentioned this a couple days ago and after watching this series I have to mention it again. Lowell at first next year? The guy kills us everytime we play them. He is probably the m.v.p. for boston this year. Besides supposidly being a good clubhouse guy.
Good lineup for tonight. The glove of Mientkiewicz came up big yesterday and he could surprise with a couple of key hits against the O’s.
look alikes
elsbury=beltron
I’m leaving for the game soon. I’ll say hello to the squirrel!
SOS,
Lowell’s having a great contract year. He’s already said that the Yankees are near the top of his list.
http://www.bostonherald.com/sp.....id=1031666
And as a bonus, there’s a picture of Papelbon that sort of reminds you of Shill.
Is Farnsworth available.. Has not pitched in 7 starts and the pen seems weak with no Chamberlain?
Man I hate Lowell… I can’t stand him and Youkilis, I hope I never see any of those guys on pinstripes…
Why isn’t Melky playing?? Hurt or benched (day off) because he looks like he’s lunging at every pitch? Let’s hope Matsui gets on a roll after his day off.
Come on, Franchise!!!
mel,
Thats a great picture of puckerbon,but the bent over schill after the homerun shot yesterday trumps that.
Lowell’s o.k., but he sure seems stiff over there in Boston. He looks so sad all the time and much older than his 33 years. Maybe he’s still a Yankee at heart because he’s very reserved.
If Alex opts out, Lowell may become a very rich man. Boston might go through the roof to keep the Yankees from snatching him up. That seems to be their m.o. nowadays ala Matsuzaka and Gagne.
If Alex hits the market, will he look to be playing 3B or SS?
And yes to whoever asked, Ellsbury does look like a very young Beltran. As soon as I thought that he looked Hispanic the announcers said he was Navajo. He’ll probably be their Jeter in the future. Scrappy Doo’s (Pedroia) alright but he doesn’t have that aura and he looks so eager.
Mike Lowell is a good guy and a damn good ballplayer. That said, picking up somebody from the RS is never a good idea, especially when he is going to want BIG money based on this year’s stats. Let the RS re-sign Lowell for the BIG $$ and hope his stats fall back to where an aging veteran stats are.(see Varitek)
LOL if Lowell won’t be third base for us. Because AROD is staying. (unless they move the banged up Jeter away from SS, and Arod back to his old place, then that’s a different thing)
Melky needs a day off anyway. Hopefully JT tells him he is benched tonight for sliding into first.
Guys! C’mon! We need to rag on someone!
Rebecca – I missed something – what’s the “ragging on someone” thing and how does that mesh with optimism??
Sweeney usually does have something interesting to say — whether you agree with him or not.
He’s a Big Ten rival for me because I graduated from Purdue.
Sherri: The past few games we’ve done the following:
Against Toronto, we ragged on Giambi pregame, and Giambi had a grand slam.
Next night we ragged on Matsui, and he had a 2 run single.
Last night we ragged on Mient, and his defense saved the game.
Guiseppe,
I thought you graduated from the Hollywood School of Cosmetology?
Ethan Foxx they get young talent by drafting better in recent drafts and making wiser international fa signings.
Minky was great last night!
Matsui might still need a little ragging…
Do pitchers count? If we rag on Hughes, maybe he can do a job on the O’s!
Well, I don’t think Hughes needs it…
Matsui it is!
“Last night we ragged on Mient, and his defense saved the game.”
There were a lot of heroes last night. In my opinion Minky was the MVP of that game. Without his scintillating defense, the game gets out of hand early and Clemens gem becomes rubble, and Chamberlain and Rivera never get into the game.
This is why I have been so adamant about defense. Philips or Minky need to start at first. With Giambi there, we lose one of the biggest games of the year without question. You simply do not sacrifice defense for a big hitter. If you have two equally competent players at first, than sure take the hitter. The Sabremetric nazis will never be able to account for this kind of play in their dizzying maze of statistics.
Hopefully last night was enough to convince Torre of how defense at first is so much more important than anything on offense. Then again Igawa was warming late tied at one.
BJ
Becca-
Melky and Matsui deserve our ragging the most. Here are their Sept. BA/OBP/SLG:
Melky .190/.242/.241
Matsui .125/.308/.200
That is brutal, and Melky’s season line is down to .336/.408/.744. Those numbers would be barely acceptable, IF he played gold golce caliber centerfield defense. And I have seen no evidence in statistical results or by viewing to support the notion that he does. Not to mention, he simply LOOKS terrible lately.
What more can I say about Matsui but that the Yanks simply need him to get in going by the post season.
I fear “ragging” on those two will be lost. So how about this: “What have you done for us lately, ARod”! A weak overall series in Boston and an ugly line of .125/.308/.125 over the past week. With only one RBI and nary an extra base hit since you dominated in KC.
Sure you can hit the weak Central teams, but to become a True Yankee (TM) you need to get it done against the AL East! In September.
BJ:
The very very very first thing I was ever taught about baseball was courtesy of my older brother: A good defense will ALWAYS beat a good offense.
I agree. Giambi should never be used as anything but a DH and late game post hitter. That is where is value is at its highest.
*pinch hitter*
Micheal T:
Well, A-Rod is WAY WAY WAY overdue to hit one out.
Melky’s slump I think has been overshadowed because of his defensive play, because Matsui and Giambi were slumping and because while Matsui hits behind A-Rod, Melky hits 9th.
As I said before, I don’t like Damon in CF, but Melky needs the day off.
It’s getting tiring seeing that false science “sliding headfirst doesn’t get you there any faster” and intellectually-challenged “otherwise olympic runners would do it” stupidity passed around as truth on every blog. For the nth time, olympic runners don’t do it because…well, sliding on rubberized latex probably will break something, esp with 9 others huge, muscular guys running at over 20mph right behind you. DUH. Nothing to do with getting there faster/slower.
Now if they want to get on Melky for sliding feet first, that’s fine, yes that indeed slows you down
Meanwhile, sliding head first (and executing it well) indeed gets you there faster, at some expense of injury risk.
What Melky did the other night was stupid, not because he slid, but because he slid feet first.
We do not need Melky to be red hot to win in the postseason, but we do need him to be productive at the plate. Need to get him going again in the next 2 weeks.
That seasonline for Mleky is OBP/SLG/OPS
Minky or Phillips at first – agreed!!!
Sweeney is a fellow PSU alum?
roar, lions, roar.
Mike S.
Class of 1983
AD:
Maybe Melky isn’t playing because his average, near .300 not long ago, is now .282. Hopefully a day off helps. With his speed, he really should try a drag bunt sometime….and no sliding into first when he does it!
This amused me:
“Boston Red Sox
Coco Crisp: He didn’t really used the “P” word after Friday night’s loss to the Yankees, did he? Even as a negative. He said, “It’s not the time to panic.” It wasn’t the time to drop that word into a conversation.”
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Yeah, that is great writing from Murti. Are f’en kidding me. Kiss ass much, Pete?
“What Melky did the other night was stupid, not because he slid, but because he slid feet first.”
i’m saying asking this totally to cause trouble. if running through a base is faster on offense, then why did mientkiewicz dive for the bag last night and tag it with his glove? was that stupid? should he have ran through the base tagging it with his foot. he does get his side of the base so he could have done that.
i think maybe it’s faster to dive for the bag on defense ,but not on offense. just kidding.
…and then clemens slid feet first into first to make an out. there sure is a whole lot of diving and sliding going on at first base. just saying.
skinny mike and bj,
agreed, defense wins championships. We have enough hitters to score some runs. Look at the 2001 team. They were possibly one of the worse hitting teams we had and were one inning away from being crowned.
Giambi pinch hitter. If Sierra,Strawberry,Fielder could do it and accept it why wouldnt he.
Time to grind out some wins. Playoffs are not blowouts. Its more of the tight scoring games, pitchers battling and timely hitting that get you over.
*GAME TIME NOTES*
· Dice-L next start has been pushed to Saturday, giving him 7-days off.
· Bostons arrived in Toronto at 4:00 AM
· Sox are complaining about the Toronto’s “cold” 60° weather
· Best reaction to ShelleyGate by Matt Schweber: Sometimes, it’s necessary to express the truth, no matter how vulgar, unseemly, or even obscene it may appear. I commend Shelley Duncan for the courage of his conviction and the valor to convey the truth.”
· In a classy move, 36,533 fans at Fenway chanted “yankees suck” after Cano went deep.
· Boston Hearld says the Soxs are in a “dumpster of denial”
· Bernie Williams will be performing with Jose Feliciano at the Utopia Paradise Theater this Saturday night
I looked it up. Melky is 1 for his last 31.
Yanks seem to have a trend of let downs after many of their exhausting Boston series. Last time was Tampa … remember that disaster of a series?
Daniel Cabrera is only 9-16. He’s big and can throw hard, but he’s erratic & inconsistent, and occasionally he’s shown really good stuff. I saw NY face him at the stadium on a night when NY could only muster a weak hit or two against him.
After this Boston series NY better not be complacent or take for granted they’ll beat him just because he’s 9-16 and playing for Baltimore. If NY goes in with that frame of mind instead of going out and playing good ball, Cabrera could pitch well enough to capitalize.
randy L:
It’s not a dumb question, there are actually some physics behind slinding (in theory). See the wiki link below. To me, the issu is that it makes sense for a fielder to dive because: a) you have to catch the ball with your mitt, not your foot, and b) if you are diving to the bag (Like minky di last night), they aren’t usually runnign full speed and it is much easier to “time” the dive correctly so that you land exactly on the bag. If Melky could do this running to first, he might get there a little faster ,, putting aside injury risk. But he can’t, and you can verify this by watching his slides/dives where he wither takles 3 stutter steps to slow down, or hits the dirt 5 feet in front of th bag and slows donw quickly.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does.....ase_faster
1 for last 27. Sorry. Still….
Lowell ? For the right $$$ and a sincere desire to play in the Bronx opposed to silly Boston, I’d consider him for a 2-year deal with A-Rod moving to SS and Captain Jetes prolonging his career by shifting to 1st base. It could be a good move for all concerned but that’s for offseason discussion.
Dr. A–60 as cold?!
I would think Boston has thicker skin than that! Heck, when it’s 60 in Syracuse it’s time to break out the bikini!
…Okay, maybe not right now, but in April when we’ve got that first warm day after MONTHS of 10 F weather…
There is only one reason to dive or slide into first base: to prevent a collision. The batter has the right of way and should always run through the bag unless he is going to be tagged while the 1B is away from the bag and the runner is trying to avoid the tag.
The reason defenders dive is because they cannot overrun the base for fear of colliding with the runner. The runner has the right to the bag and the line through the bag. The reason Rocket and Minky dove was to be able to take a direct route to the bag and to not run through it and get nailed by the runner.
Okay…
sliding into first no matter the slide does in fact slow you down. You begin decelerating the moment you leave the ground so running hard all the way through the bag is your best bet.
Sliding into second/third is quicker because the impact with the ground decelerates you faster and more adequately than running standing in. By lowering your center mass it is MUCH less likely your inertia will carry you off the bag as it would if you tried to come to a halt standing up. This is also ignoring the obvious notion of becoming a harder target to tag…
Olympic runners don’t dive because they are afraid of getting hurt…If they had to stop exactly on the line at the end of the race I garuntee you they’d all be diving at the end….
woops…i meant “olympic runners don’t dive NOT because they are afraid of getting hurt”
Putting Jeter at first is a good idea,but I dont think hes ready to hang em up at short yet. I expect him to come out next year and play gold glove caliber defense, being the proud competitor that he is.
A-rod is to big now to play short. I think he is comfortable playing third(from what iv heard).
If Jeter were to go to first than there would be no use for Lowell unless we lost A-rod to free agency.
Again, if all stays the same for next year. I would enjoy watching Lowell play first base in a Yankee uniform. GOOD GLOVE,BAT AND ATTITUDE.
Regarding whether a head-first plunge to first base gets you to your destination faster than running through, it does.
So why don’t Olympic sprinters do it? Because they’d tear half their bare skin off every time when they land, and probably get injured with a variety of other performance-hindering bumps and bruises too. Often, they’re racing in qualifying heats and need to run again (usually needing to go even faster) soon after a race. If they’re running multiple events they may have to rave a qualifying heat the same day or the day after a final.
It’s actually better for their bodies to gradually decelerate after a race rather than stopping abruptly in any way, which is why you often see them coasting 40-50 meters into the turn after finish line of a 100m race.
So, they could steal an occasional race but they don’t do it because they can get injured. Same applies to baseball players. Baseball players are at less risk of injury because they dive onto dirt rather than a track, they’re wearing thicker & more skin-covering clothes than lightweight lycra shorts, many are wearing gloves, some are wearing pads, and they’re all wearing jock cups. Yes, that cup DOES make a difference in diving if you’ve ever tried it with or without.
that’s not cold, but I don’t like it when temperatures drop so quickly – four weeks ago it was a nice 80 degrees.
I dont know if this question has been asked but if you slide head first,would that get you their quicker. I saw Ricky Henderson and Vince Coleman do it with the notion that it did. Not sure.
Sorry,
Ranting guy you answered my question.
Need to refresh more often.
SOS – it does get you there quicker if you don’t dive too early or too late.
I like Damon in CF, Melky has been abysmal with the bat.
With Doug M at 1B, it’s a good balance between hitting and defense.
This lineup and Matsui DH/Damon LF/Melky CF/Giambi 1B look to be our Playoff lineups. Sort of a 1A and 1B, depending on who you play and who is pitching. If we are matched up against the Angels, then you will probably be seeing Alphabet Soup at 1B for the majority which is the right thing to do.
SOS27-
I like defense as much as the next guy, but it really isn’t as simple as “defense wins championships”. What wins championships is consistently scoring more runs than your opponents. Usually, but not always, this is a combination of good pitching and hitting, with defense and potentially speed on top of that. But pitching is much more important in preventing runs than defense. 2001 was a great example of balance by the Yankees, 3rd in league ERA and 5th in runs scored. I don’t have any team defense stats handy, but really doubt that was an above average defensive team with Jeter at SS, Sori at 2B, Bernie in CF and Kobby in left.
For fun, here are how the Yankees in the last run “did” or didn’t do it it. ERA Rank/Runs Scored Rank:
1995: 7th ERA/6th RS
1996: 2/9
1997: 2/2
1998: 1/1
1999: 2/3
2000: 6/6
2001: 3/5
2002: 4/1
2003: 3/3
2004: 6/2
2005: 9/2
2006: 6/1
Of the “Ring: teams, we had 1 that was a result of great pitching and timely hitting in the post season with a medicore offense (1996), 1 that was simply dominant in all facets of the game (1998), one thas was great and well-balanced between pitching and hitting (1999) and one that was simply lucky/intangibles/”knows how to win” (2000).
Of the teams that didnt win, the 1997 club was claerly the best but just had bad innopportune luck in the short series, with an untimely gopher ball by Mo. The 2003 club also had good enough pitching and hitting but ran into som hot young arms.
Since 2003, they simply haven’t had pitching good enough to win series in the post season as the elite teams cool off the great offense.
Sos … Me too sorry
And i know the decelerationg from the .002 seconds you’re in the air is nothing major…but I’d have to see video evidence of being able to bend and explode off your legs with a perfect dive (avoid ground friction) while mainting constant velocity…to me I don’t see that happening.
There are way to many variables in this to come to a definite conclusion sitting at a chair. Live testing is needed for this to really be settled. Mythbusters did it if I’m correct and found out that you are slower sliding…
I was thinking about Lowell as a possible 1st baseman. And we would fit our need for a right-handed bat.
Yes, my son always gets very frustrated with me when he comes at me with, “Do you know why the other team won??” And I always say, “Yes, they scored more points.”
Please allow me to give you some empirical (sp?) evidence:
I coach high school baseball and every once in awhile, one of the kids pulls a Melky. To stop them of the bad habit, I have him run three times sliding into first base…then have him sprint through first base three times. I time all of their runs. I always have them do the slide runs first while they are fresher. Guess what always happens?
That’s right…running through the bag always gets you to the bag faster.
Having said that, I think it takes a balance of offense and defense. You can’t win without having the most points, and you can’t have the most points without having good defense (usually).
By the way, big props for Roger Clemens last night, what a performance by the old timer.
I wonder if Michael Johnson could run as fast in sweats, batting gloves and a jock cup, would the world record for 200m be less than 19 seconds instead of 19.32?
Yes, Roger really impressed last night. Thankfully, more so than 38complaints.com impressed.
Yes, the ROCKET was TOUGH ALL DAY!! Did you hear the announcers saying that Joba has been hanging out with him, and has told Rocket when he does certain things, “You’re doing it this way, but you told me to do it this way…” and Rocket told Joba to “do what I say, not what I do.”
If you have the most points, you’ll never win. If you have the most runs, you’ll always win.
Michael T,
Great stats. But doesnt great pitching and great defense go hand in hand. Perfect example, yesterdays game Doug saved a couple of runs for Clemens. So it will show Clemens pitching a shutout but in reality if it was any other first baseman their,it would have hiked up his e.r.a.
Phil – point taken!
One last thing, I’m hoping we don’t face a typical post Red Sox Series let down here at Game 1 against the Orioles.
That would be disappointing.
I ran track for 7 years (many moons ago) and in track you learn that a well-timed lean (or lunge if you’re either desparate or dramatic) will get you there sooner, and an I’ll-timed lean/lunge will not.
Same goes for a dive which is not worth it because it’s just asking for an injury anyways. If you don’t time it right you won’t get there sooner. You could, but unless you’ve practice it once in a while, you probably won’t.
Dr. A–Eh, when you’re sitting in an attic apartment and it’s 95 F outside and you have no air conditioning, 60 F looks pretty damned good!
Sherri,
That’s great to hear. “Do as I say, not as I do” is the the Golden Rule of Parenting.
Mel – don’t I know it! I think that what Clemens brings to the clubhouse with the younger guys is of immeasurable worth.
It would be nice to give some of the old timers some needed rest before October if we can clinch the wild card with still some season left. I am really hoping there’s nothing terribly wrong with Mr. Clutch that might linger, although this past series he said otherwise.
Okay. It’s official, Steve Phillips is nutz.
He just said, the “red sox _got_ to Jaba Chamberlain, the same way the Yankees got to the Red Sox bull pen.”
Yeah, it was a mirror image.
Who’s pitching Wednesday? I’m leaving work early to go to that one.
It’s nearly GAME TIME! WHOOO!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Rebecca-
where digya live during the summer?
I just wonder if that dummy Phillips has learned how to pronounce “Joba.” For weeks he was calling him “Jobber.”
Rebecca – S.U.?
Olympic runners don’t dive because they win with their chest, not the whether they touch the base or not = =||
Fortunately, I have DirecTv and can switch between Yanks/O’s and Red Sox/Jays.
That also means I get to choose between “McNuggets, McNuggets, yeah…” and “Guiseppe Franco….”.
Doesn’t Michael Kay need another day off?
It’s going to be a long night…
Obviously, when someone shrugs and then proceeds to get the next person out, that means “getting to.”
I’m no genius, but I’m pretty sure that 6 runs/2 pitchers before the 1st out was recorded is not equal to a solo homerun with 2 outs.
Kay looks sharp! And he makes Girardi look like a shrimp.
Dr. A–I was in London last spring, and spent the summer mostly in New Jersey.
Ranting Guy–Syracuse University, the one and only!
The game hasn’t even started yet and you are complaining about the announcers
Ach, c’mon Phil, you can do this! Have faith!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
ya know, there’s alotta Scotter in Jerry Remy.
Maybe we can sign him, too!
Me too. 80′s. School of Architorture. Flint. Day. Lancaster. Red House. Is the Varsity still there? “Rebecca … youuuurrrrrr wings are ready”
GO YANKEES!!!!
Not complaining, call it anticipating.
Optimistically speaking, the Orioles are as welcome as a toothache.
Ranting Guy: YESSSS
I’m A+S /Maxwell, cos I’m a history major which is an A+S major, but taught by Maxwell faculty. Architecture? Man, I hear that’s tough.
I was in Haven two years (yes, the toilet bowl), I lived on Lancaster last fall and I’m on Ackerman this year, off campus is the best!
Though it’s true: BB has the best dining hall on campus!
SOS&-
Pitching and defense are definitely “partners” in keeping runs off the board. But, I would argue that dominant opitching (i.e. no walks and lots of Ks) can cover up for poor defense. But: lots of balls in play coupled with poor range up the middle like the 04-06 vintage Yanks is not a recipe for success.
C’mon Phil! You can do this! Get the first inning jitters out of your system!
If anyone has demons, NOW is the time to excise them!
arent these games a let down after coming off of those 3 games at fenway. this seems like the ’03 world series
Anyone notice, Singleton is fired-up.
Momentum Only Lasts Until the Next Game’s Starter (TM)
doctor, i think i have a markakis
_arent these games a let down after coming off of those 3 games at fenway._
Nah, I’m using mood stablizers.
cmon phil, tear this down and hit your stride.
Oh.
Okay, c’mon Yankees, let’s do this, let’s you know, actually get batters out?
You can do this!
Damn I’ve seen better start to games than this one…
markakis!
Nick Markakis is less welcome than a broken toe. Come on Phil!
God, more of the same from Phil. This guy is pretty terrible early in the game.
Way to inject life into a team that is playing awful baseball, as bad as anyone in the league.
Varsity was the ONLY dining hall after dorm life Rebecca. Well there were a few worthy joints I guess. The V probably has the same guy calling your name when you’re food’s ready. Pear-shaped guy, glasses, 6 ft tall, might be about 50 now. Sound familiar?
Hughes is pitching for the second time after a big series against Boston. Tampa the first time now Baltimore.
the problem with hughes is that he doesnt have an effective out pitch yet
hitters are just way to comfortable hitting with 2 strikes
Kei Igawa, anybody?
“I time all of their runs. I always have them do the slide runs first while they are fresher. Guess what always happens?”|
ah, but phil, you the tester has already made up your mind. if you are clicking the stopwatch, you are hardly impartial. not exactly a scientific test.
maybe some people are better at diving than others. according to some theories a dive to the base that is all in the air so there is no friction slowing things down is the fastest. a dive would be an athletic move and someone like ricky henderson might have it down where a david ortiz might have a little problem with diving.
Ranting Guy: I think so…I don’t go down to M street often though.
Phil hughes is not the guy we want on the mound when this team struggles after Boston series. Could be a long 3 hours
They have played like garbage all year against the Orioles.
Its hard to explain but, it comes down to pitching. The Orioles own Yankees pitching. Its not going to change now so they better bring the lumber the next 3 days.
Hughes again showing why he’s not yet ready for primetime. Simply can’t throw enough quality strikes to be a consistent pitcher at the ML level at this time.
Toronto up 2- zip in the first.
Let’s go Offense!!
why doesnt millar just go away, far away with mike greenwall and ellis burks?
Good news: Toronto up on Boston 2-0.
Cleveland’s scoreless, but got a runner on third.
Hughes will settle down
Could he please throw something other then a curve and fastball?
this has the feel of a 4+ hour long slugfest
Randy – I have the captain of the team and my first base coach time them. Don’t make assumptions. Running through the base always gets the faster time.
I’d rather see the Indians win today than the Blue Jays. Of course, I’d just prefer if the Yankees won but…
Jax, he threw one changeup to Millar, the fourth pitch of the AB. He really needs that pitch to be effective.
He just threw two in a row to Huff.
Okay, no worries.
Yeah, we’re down two runs, but the Yanks haven’t even come to bat yet and you know the bats are WAY DUE for a big inning!
Have faith guys, we can do this!
TWENTY SEVEN IN OH-SEVEN!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
These 30+ pitch first innings are getting a little old. By the time Phil gets it going, he is gassed in the 5th inning.
Dmitri may be onto something. We’ll probably see Igawa at some point tonight.
just tuned in, bad inning but at least Hughes limited the damage. Let’s just pray Bad Daniel Cabrera shows up tonight!
i can live with 2 runs. maybe…
Good job by Hughes to strand the runner at third. Let’s go Bronx Bombers!
34 pitch first inning against a dead team. Pure garbage.
This kid has a long way to go before people pencil him into the 2008 rotation.
If I’m Torre, and they make the playoffs, Ian Kennedy gets a start before Hughes. He’s a better pitcher.
Hype is one thing, production is another. Right now, he’s more hype than production. Its not like he has to face real teams. He’s facing awful teams and still can’t find any consistency from start to start.
That’s just Phil’s one bad inning. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he mows the O’s down for the rest of the game! Let’s go offense!!
here comes daniel cabrera, i hope he doesnt balk, he might throw at Pedroira if he does
If im the Yankees PR guy, Im putting a stuffed squirrel on top of that foul pole. Just a thought.
lmao could you imagine if pedroia charged the mound on cabrera
Not a surprise here.
Script for this game:
Phil puts us in a big hole from the start, and Cabrera no-hits or one-hits the Yanks through 5 or 6 innings. Cmon Indians!
Nice motto
Jeter just tied Bernie! Whee!
Jeter!
McGowan is pitching for toronto. 6 up – 6 down. 19 pitches- 2Ks
There goes the Captain again!!
Cabrera is wild but the Yankees need to make sure he’s not effectively wild. Get into the Oriole bullpen early and often.
Good he threw a couple in the first. He needs to keep throwing it. He’s not throwing it enough. Hitters are always looking curve/fastball. It’s too easy for them.
Jeter is heating up at just the right time!
there goes the no hitter!
SJ44-
IPK has shown me a lot more than Hughes, but he is already at 165 innings this year. With 2-3 more regular season starts he will be above 180 for his first year as a pro. This is probably a huge increase over a year for a college pitcher.
It is going to be a dilemma down the stretch and into the playoffs.
Wow. Bitter Bernie.
We need Alex to tie it up here
“to help who?”
awesome
MVP! MPV! MVP!
Well he didn’t tie it up but I’ll take it
Matusi is dead weight right now.
Maybe Matsui will cheat and run into a fastball.
Posada really needs to be batting after A-Rod. Just sayin.
Ah, not our inning.
It’s still early, and, well, it’s not the first inning any more. C’mon Phil! Hold them here!
I’ve decided I’m not scoreboard watching until this game is over.
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Or maybe Matsui will does what he does. Bail out ealry and hit a weak pop-up to left.
Michael,
Perhaps but, he is older and more experienced, in terms of pitching, than Hughes. I think he will be able to handle it.
Put it this way, Kennedy knows how to pitch. Hughes does not. That can’t be overlooked when putting together the playoff roster.
Plus, Kennedy seems to be getting better from start to start. I just don’t see that with Hughes.
He can’t pitch at Yankee Stadium, can’t throw consistent strikes and, as I have maintained since he has returned, has less velocity and stuff than he did prior to his injuries.
I’m all “patience” and all that stuff. However, its a pennant race and he is in the rotation. Either do the job or find somebody else to do it. It may sound harsh but, that’s the reality of playing for a team that has playoff and World Series aspirations.
Putting the team in another first inning hole against a horrible Baltimore team is inexcusable.
They have a bunch of guys in that bullpen. First sign of another struggle, get him out of there and find somebody else.
You hate giving these games away to the Orioles. Their inability to beat Baltimore is why they are in second place.
reall BBB, you are right, Its getting to the point where Matsui doesnt show any signs of getting out of this slump which is possible as to why Arod hasnt hit a homerun in 31 AB. Just a thought.
Why hasn’t Posada been hitting after A-Rod?
Looks like it’s gona be a long game..
Good question Scooter.
Maybe we should give Matsui another day off. He looks off-balance when he swings.
Pete: Enjoy the movie!
Posada batted behind Alex what seems like no more than once or twice recently. Why he isnt batting there every day is beyond me, Alex would see such better pitches to hit.
Bold prediction: Hughes doesn’t give up any more runs tonight! If he does, I’ll stay here and take the criticism.
He keeps hanging the curve.
why does he keep throwing the curve in 2 strike counts, its obviously not working
Great play robbie
Most troubling about Hughes is that he has had about thirty 0-2 counts the past four starts and I can’t remember him striking anyone out without getting to 2-2, 3-2 or the like.
SJ- To me Hughes or IPK isn’t a matter of who is better right now, it is whether you want to risk piling 200 innings onto a 24 year arm that probably only threw 150 last year.
Nice play by Robbie!
alright hughes!
Nice DP!
Dunno bout you lot, but I think the top of the 2nd was a bit better than the top of the 1st!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Nice play by Cano. You know what that means. Homerun!
Good! Now the bats need to come alive!!
what a DP. Cano isn’t my favorite player but he didn’t give up on that one.
Hughes is making it seem like he only has a curve as his breaking pitch. HEY PHIL THROW YOUR SLIDER TOO.
For all the “lacsidasical” knocks on Robby, he can sure make some creative seamless plays around the bag.
Way to go, Robbie
Yeah Jorge! LET’S GO YANKEES!
What’s worse is, he can’t locate it. Since he has come back, he pitches backwards. He doesn’t challenge guys with his fastball late in counts. Its almost as if he is gunshy and is trying to trick them.
Its why its always dangerous with pitchers who have missed a lot of time. They lose the feel for how to attack hitters.
There is an art to pitching. Its not just throwing or the radar gun. We see that in Kennedy’s starts and saw that with guys like Clemens and Schlling.
Right now, Hughes doesn’t have that yet. Will he get it? Hopefully, at some point in his career.
He’s young and he has that going for him. I know this much though, if I’m the GM, and the Twins call about Santana, I would trade Hughes in a heartbeat for him.
Joba or Ian? No way.
Hip Hip, Jorge!
Once again, he needs to bat after A-Rod!
i like it when big poopi poops up in big spoots.
Looking at the standings, it wont make much difference what happens in CLE Vs DET series as long as we win 2. If CLE is swept, we have both CLE and DET behind in standings, if DET is swept our wild card lead will be huge and if it goes 2-1 or 1-2, we gain ground on one and dont lose any ground to other.
C’mon Joe! Live dangerously. Call the double steal.
Now Robbie can put us ahead!
Damn, Giambi’s always getting hit!! If only we had an 8 game lead, I’d say he could take Cabrera…
…Dude.
All it means is that we get a baserunner.
Let’s make them pay for that!
GO YANKEES!
(SJ, you know baseball pretty well, would it kill you to try to be a little optimistic? I’ll let you off the hook if we’re losing 10-0, but right now it’s 2-0 in the second and we’ve got two on…)
Please no DP.
Posada and Giambi on base- what are the odds for a double steal?
Wild Cabrera is here!
2-1 Detroit
Mel and I thinking alike
SJ-
Cash $$ will probably get his chance next year. I wouldn’t trade any of those guys since Santana should be there for the taking in the free agent market anyway.
Bases loaded, 0 out? Pretty cool.
LET’S GO YANKEES! WE SCORE HERE! WE SCORE NOW!
bases loaded WE NEED TO DO DAMAGE!!!!
A few more of those will work for me.
o.k. next 2 guys need to take one for the team.
The way Cabrera is looking, Phil just needs to last into the fifth, annd avoid big innings.
I’m laughing at the double steal odds. How about a triple? Robby’s got the back end covered!
SJ44,
You’d be selling low on Hughes if you traded him for Santana now. You admit he’s lost his touch because he’s been injured last year. He’s thrown a few good games and this one still isn’t in the books yet. I like Kennedy too but he’s only had 3 September starts. Jeff Karstens had a great September too last year. I’d go to war with Kennedy, but stuff-wise Hughes is much betetr. Even with a bad year, if I had to include one pitcher for Santana it would have to be a touch and feel guy like Kennedy as opposed to someone most think could be a future ace in Hughes.
SJ44…Looking forward to you jumping on the Hughes bandwagon once he settles down here. Remember when you said you’d rather have Jeff Weaver than Hughes down the stretch??? Have you checked their numbers since you said that?
Girardi certainly gets it, mechanically. Cabrera cannot maintain his balance point and therefore has no control over his lower half.
Minky delivers!!!
theres a man with heart
See? I told you!
WE SCORE HERE!
MIENT MAN DELIVERS!
Dougie!!
How was that not a double? That looks like Giambi running.
Yeah Minky!!!
With Giambi, Posada, and Minky all lumbering at once they may have set a single play record for piano-pulling.
He got greedy, though…
phil-
just busting you in a kidding way because i know it pushes your buttons. i’m personally all for running through the base. i was going to throw in the “straight fastball debate” and tell you about how i read an article where shilling says he works on getting his 4 seam fastball as straight as possible so he can locate it better. i’ll save that for another day.
one question that hits me about this game is why do two old guys averaging about 43 throw as hard as a touted yankees phenom. i know it was a fast espn gun last night, but what’s up with hughes’ velocity ?
It’s funny how Sj44 does most of his posting when the Yanks are losing or a starter like Hughes is struggling a bit with his control.
Why is that?
We definitely need to pinch hit Minky with the bases loaded. That’s a nice average.
How do you give that pitch to a guy who hasn’t hit the target all inning?
Minky is another Aaron Boone!
Great job by Minky, although I wish he was less aggressive. Horrible AB by Damon. Way too many K’s with RISP by the offense the past week.
Damn, whats up with Johnny tonight? Think he needs us to bash him more?
Come on Jeet!!
I would not trade Hughes for Santanta.
hughes will alright, dont believe the negative propaganda
Eric Cooper is a dolt. He makes a strike call and immediately looks in the Yankee dugout….
Aww, well, we did tie the game!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Minky giveth, Minky taketh away… good inning, though.
I’d like to know why Daniel Cabera is a major league pitcher if he has zero control.
“Joba or Ian? No way.”
There is only one logical reason not to trade any of these players, next year is Santana’s walk year. If you could swap any one pitcher for Santana with equal number of contract years you would do it in a heartbeat, trust me.
Sanatana has dominated the league for years. Chamberlain for weeks. Kennedy for days. They all have tremendous potential, but there is absolutely no guarantee.
One could only dream that a Chamberlain or Kennedy could become half of what Santana is. He is that special. Chamberlain or Kennedy might become special. The jury is out. There is no pitcher or prospect in this league ANY GM wouldn’t trade for Santana. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
I love Kennedy and Chamberlain as much as the next guy, but saying you wouldn’t trade them for the single most dominant pitcher over the past few years is emotional and irrational.
BJ
Anybody who wouldn’t trade Hughes for Santana is crazy. One guy is either the best or second best pitcher in the league, is lefthanded and still young.
The other is a young kid with potential. Its a no brainer deal for the Yankees although I am well aware that’s a trade the Twins would never make.
Jenn: But that line of thinking also asks the question “why is Sean Henn in our bullpen?”
WHOO! K FOR PHIL!
damon has 5 ks this months…that was his second in the past week….i dont know where sj gets his facts
It seems like Hughes has trouble in the the first couple of innings of every game he starts. He throws way too many fastballs and thinks that he can over power batters with it like he did in the minors. When in the majors it isnt that good of a fastball. He also hangs way too many curveballs. Joba and even Kennedy have so far looked way more polished with their pitches then he does.
sj, i just read the full post “by the offense the past week.” my bad.
Becca I’m asking because if you recall when Angel Hernadez threw out Joba he said he should have control if he is in the bigs. So I guess Angel throws out Cabera every game since he has no control.
Hughes has been throwing the change for strikes tonight. That is a great sign.
I don’t trade either Phil, Ian or Joba for Santana.
Right now, at least on the pitching end, the Yankees have a class of rookies that rivals the likes of ’96.
There is a dynasty awaiting the Yankees.
All they have to do is take it….
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Nice inning Phil!
8 pitch inning. QUICK – send the kid back to triple A!
It has become apparent that Phil needs to do something before he enters the game. What it is I don’t know. But he always has trouble in the first inning, than he settles down.
another good inning by hughes
hughes settling nicely.
Jenn: But Angel Hernandez isn’t calling the balls and strikes tonight, is he? Or did I miss something?
Wow the Indians are playing like garbage. Do they not want to make the playoffs? Weren’t they the team who had the division won, than proceeded to give it up a few years back?
No he’s not, Sorry for the confusion.
Not with Chamberlain BJ. That’s a kid I don’t deal.
The hypothetical was a one for one type swap which I am well aware is not going to happen.
Obviously, a Santana trade would require multiple players.
The only way you trade for him (or attempt to) is knowing you can sign him to an extension prior to free agency.
If he is willing to test the market, clearly, you would just wait it out.
“I don’t trade either Phil, Ian or Joba for Santana.”
Becca,
I love you sweety but yes you would trade any one of those pitchers, including the mighty Joba for the single most dominant pitcher in the league for years.
BJ
Jennifer: I was thinking the same thing when Cabrera hit *2* of our guys in a row. Serious double standard, why doesn’t he get thrown out? Or, why doesnt Dice-BB get even so much as warned for hitting A-Rod every time he faces him? Shouldn’t he have more CONTROL when pitching to the best player in baseball?? Things that make you go hmmm…
Who is trading half their farm for a soon to be FA pitcher who’s going to cost a ton of money? A dumb GM would only do that.
Jenn: I think you mean the Tigers last year?
The problem is not that Hughes is throwing mostly fastballs. It’s that he’s not locating them well and doesn’t have good command with it.
Clemens throws about as hard as Hughes right now and he pitched great last night.
The fastball is still the best pitch in MLB if you can locate it. Every other pitch in a pitcher’s arsenal is setup by it.
May be it is a good idea for Phil to throw an inning to the bench guys before every game.
Captains’ Corner…your analysis is correct but I put the blame on Posada for calling only FB’s in that first inning. I think they talked to Phil when he was struggling and told him to stop shaking his catcher’s off (which he used to do quite a bit but never does anymore). Once PO started calling some off speed stuff mixed in the resutls changed immediately.
Oh was it the Tigers? My mistake. Anyhow the Indians are in the process of throwing away there game. two errors in the same inning. What a *JOKE* of a team.
cleveland is a fluke
rebecca-
minnesota calls you…santana for the squirrel straight up. what do you do?
BJ:
Mayhaps we should agree to disagree? Santana is great, yes, but I don’t want to disrupt the chemistry that this class (Phil/Joba/Ian) has brought to the team.
Now, if say Clemens retires or whatnot, and we can get Santana to sign as a free agent, I wouldn’t complain…
Cleavland’s not giving us any help.
Randy: !!!
I’d need to flip a coin!
GODZILLA IS BACK!
Where is the squirrel anyway?
MATSUI!! NICE!!
Matsui-san.
hooray for hentai!!!
A THRILLA BY GODZILLA!!!!!!
Matsui!!!!! YES!!! Slump-busters woot!
What you are really dong if you trade one of our kids for Santana is trading a no-cost starter for 4 years plus about $180 million to get Santana for 6-7 years, including next year. And if you don’t sign him to an extension, you are trading young, under control talent for a one-year rental.
And, if you wait until 2009 you could have Santana, and the kids, spending only the money and draft picks.
This isn’t a no-brainer, unless you look at the strawman of Santan vs. Hughes and put aside the control/monety issues.
Meanwhile, that was the chating on a fastball I was calling for last AB from Matsui.
Rebecca – You were right! Matsui HR!!!!
I hope this gets Matsui going.
5-1 Tigers and the Indians look terrible. Got to find a way to win these games against bad teams. Doesn’t look like the Tigers want to lose.
3-1 Jays
Digya see how Shelley used his will to force the ball outta the stadium!
Michael,
I guess my point is, if you can sign him without him leaving for free agency (a trade, then an extension) its something you have to consider.
Mainly because, by taking him out of the marketplace, you eliminate your competitors from bidding for his services.
I cannot believe I’m actually rooting for Toronto tonight, but there you have it!
LET’S GO JAYS!
More importantly,
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Okay. It’s game time, boys and grrls!
Toronto just went up 3-1. McGowan is pitching a gem (2-hitter, 4Ks, 64 in 5 inn)
if we keep up keepin up, then we’ll be 3 out in the loss column.
We win thing, after All!
Now get in there, and hit somebody!!
WOW they are alive 5-2.
Next two matchups for Tiggers/Injuns:
J. Verlander vs. J. Westbrook
N. Robertson vs. C. Sabathia
Of the four scheduled starters, only Cy Cy Sabathia has reasonably good numbers vs. the opponent. Verlander has been torched by the Indians over his career.
“Not with Chamberlain BJ. That’s a kid I don’t deal.”
I understand the emotion. Its not a strategic move though. If Chamberlain had two or three years of dominance I would agree with you. No pitcher, even Joba is beyond a trade when you are talking about the single most dominant guy in the league for years. Further, he is not some 40 year old guy we are talking about here.
The only upside to a Joba is years, and you would have to guarantee me he will perform at that incredible level. You are not improving talent wise. You are risking everything for perhaps a couple of years.
Ponder what I am saying a bit more and I think you will see it really does make more sense.
BJ
That was a fantastic pitch by Hughes to get out Tejada.
Hughes just threw like six fastballs in a row to Tejada. I know he struck him out but you can’t throw the fastball that many times in a row and expect to get away with it.
SJ44-
If those are the rules, I would would trade IPK or Hughes, but not Joba. I think we are in agreement.
I liek to see swinging Ks to start each of the last 2 innings.
tejada struck himself out, hughes didnt strike him out
“Now, if say Clemens retires or whatnot, and we can get Santana to sign as a free agent, I wouldn’t complain…”
That is gonna be the move. I wouldn’t trade any of those guys simply because next year is Santana’s walk year. We will sign him without a doubt. Rotation Santana, Chamberlain, Kennedy, Hughes, Wang in no particular order.
BJ
They were pounding him inside. He had no clue that what he swung at was a ball.
SJ44 –
I don’t think anyone would dispute the notion that if the Twinkies are going to allow Santana to hit the market, the Yankees will be major players. Despite the current “plan”, all bets are off when a premier SP becomes available.
I’d be stunned if that ever happens, though. As we all know, the one of the worst/cheapest/crookedest owners in baseball owns the Twins.
i hate millar
BJ: You know, the sound of that rotation alone is enough to give me chills…
Joba Chamberlain has electric stuff BJ. Phil Hughes does not.
Joba hasn’t even shown his full reportoire of pitches yet. He unveiled his 12 to 6 curveball last night and his changeup is dynamite.
Chamberlain is a once in a generation arm. That’s why I don’t deal him for anybody, including Santana.
migames, they were pounding Tejada inside the entire at bat. They weren’t going to let him extend his arms and drive it. Hughes through it 2 seemer up and in and Tejada couldn’t get his bat on it. It was a good pitch. Nice try though.
YAH YANKEES!
LET’S GET SOME INSURANCE RUNS!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
sweetness, another good inning by hughes
Great job to get out of the inning there after Millar got into scoring position with only 1 out.
Michael Kay is calling for Aubrey Huff to be benched for jaking it down the line. Does he even pay attention? This entire team quit two weeks ago.
Scoot over guys…I think SJ44 is getting ready to hop back on the Hughes bandwagon.
Yes! Keep it up, Phil!!
cleveland pulling their usual september antics
Damn they had runners on first and second no outs, run already in and they don’t score another. Why are some scared of them?
Kevin,
I am not “off” any bandwagon. We are having a baseball discussion. Its not cheerleader practice.
I hope the kid does very well. Let’s be honest, he’s facing a team that quit a month ago. Do you not think he should be solid in this game?
Its not like this is some awesome offensive team.
Big Hurt just mashed a wakefield “fastball”. 4-1 Toronto.
SJ: I DARE you to make an optimistic post. DARE you.
Toronto 4-1!
Boston is in big trouble.
Have I mentioned how I get a kick outta boston losing??
Anyways, 4-1 Toronto!!!!
Now that’s the count-working Giambi we know and love!!
SJ,
If you were listening to Sterling you might think otherwise about the O’s lineup. He keeps saying how there are “no holes in the Baltimore lineup.” Hey John, THEY ARE 20 FREAKIN’ GAMES UNDER .500.
SJ44…There’s a difference between having a “discussion” and quitting on the kid everytime he gives up a run. That’s fine too…just don’t jump back on his bandwagon when he does well.
P.S. Still want to take Jeff Weaver over Huges down the stretch like you did 2 weeks ago???
When does cheerleading practice start?
Michael T- How fast was it, 67 miles per hour? LOL!!
YEAH ROBBY!!!!
WHOOO!!!
Holy crap, Giambi scores from first!!!!!
Giambi. Is. Sloooow.
Giambi from 1st!!!!!
Giambi can fly lol
THESE LEADS are GONNA HOLD !
Yankees over O’s
Blue Jays over Idiots
After the last out is recorded, Yankees only 3 games back in the loss column with 12 games left to play….MORE WIND IN OUR SAILS……Go Yankees….Trolls Expire !!!
Dude, on the replay, that slide was BRILLIANT!
But what a slide.
Giambi scored from first, and he didn’t even have to use a cart!!
Imagine if Jeremy Giambi knew how to slide like Jason just did.
dougie is really motivated to get his job back
I’d say about 90% of all sac bunts are “beauties”, per Micheal Kay.
JOHNNY AVOIDING THE HAT TRICK!
WHOO!!
Good call on Waldman/Sterling, Peter.
I thought that they should be on suicide watch.
Yeah Johnny!
An RBI single for the Damonator!!
Way to go, Damon!!!
JDawg-
Wake’s knuckler is actually 66-68. he dials the old # 1 up to near 80.
Actually shows you how strong an arm these guys have. If you ever thrown into one of those guns at the fair, it is freakin hard to get it over 60 mph.
Heck, I’m lucky if I can throw it over 45 mph at a fair!
Michael T. If you have any athletic/baseball ability, it really isn’t that hard to get over 60 at all.
Micheal T…I’ve done the same thing at a fair and was shocked that I could only throw in like the mid-60′s.
REGIS!!! He loves Jeter!!!
Whoo! We got us some insurance runs! The bottom of the order is carrying the game today, but that’s okay, I’ll take my wins any way I can get them!
C’MON YANKEES!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
If McGowan keeps this up he’ll be one of my favorite pitchers…
ANyone know where the video of the soxs players being hazed is?
Jennifer, it was posted on bostondirtdogs.com earlier in the day. There is probably still a link to it on there.
Sterling and Waldman are absolutely annoying. Listening to them is like hearing nails dig into a blackboard. They make Michael Kaye a great listen….
Dude, guys.
I threw a ball once at a carnival with a radar gun thingie.
Wanna know how fast I threw it? Really?
*23 mph*
No, I am totally not making that up! (I have really weak wrists, which don’t help…)
Becca, he’ll be one of your favorite pitchers until next Sunday.
Looking good Yankees. Lets keep it up!
Boston is flopping around like a herd of wild fish.
They had this long shot of Poppi sitting on the bench hanging his head.
6-outs left.
All the talk about ‘let-down’ – it’s all ON boston.
back to the Johan Santana discussion, does anyone think the Yanks could get him without giving up Joba? I’m curious what other teams would offer. You’d have to give up top young talent plus pay him $175M/6 range – or something close to that. The Twins might ask for Joba and Hughes.
The O’s are acting like they’re P.O.’d about that first inning taking so long.
Never saw a pitch they didn’t like.
Rebecca, you throw like a girl!
My friend and I have been saying that the Yankees needed to get Santana for about a year now. Why could Joba not stay if Santana came? I would imagine Clemens won’t be around much longer, and I had heard Pettitte was considering whether he wanted to play next year or not.
Trick to Phil Hughes’ starts: Have someone else pitch the first inning, or let Phil take a first inning’s worth of warm up pitches!
I think that grass is flying everywhere because Phil is mowing them down!!!
Based on the depleted state of the Twins’ minors system, the team that offers 3+ position prospects will probably have an inside track to Santana.
It would make a lot of sense for them to trade Santana to the NL, where they wouldn’t have to see Santana 3-4 times per year.
Hate to tell you guys this but most good HS pitchers can pop alteast 80 on a radar gun.
a-rod due for a bomb
Dr. A–But I make up in good luck what I lack in athletic talent!
(Seriously. Four years of basketball, one basket made but 3/4 championships won!)
SJ44
September 17th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Michael,
Perhaps but, he is older and more experienced, in terms of pitching, than Hughes. I think he will be able to handle it.
Put it this way, Kennedy knows how to pitch. Hughes does not. That can’t be overlooked when putting together the playoff roster.
Plus, Kennedy seems to be getting better from start to start. I just don’t see that with Hughes.
He can’t pitch at Yankee Stadium, can’t throw consistent strikes and, as I have maintained since he has returned, has less velocity and stuff than he did prior to his injuries.
I’m all “patience� and all that stuff. However, its a pennant race and he is in the rotation. Either do the job or find somebody else to do it. It may sound harsh but, that’s the reality of playing for a team that has playoff and World Series aspirations.
Putting the team in another first inning hole against a horrible Baltimore team is inexcusable.
They have a bunch of guys in that bullpen. First sign of another struggle, get him out of there and find somebody else.
You hate giving these games away to the Orioles. Their inability to beat Baltimore is why they are in second place.
Does anyone else think that Hughes just needs to warm up longer? Once he gets out of the first, he’s great.
Sherri – I think the Yanks could maybe get Santana for Hughes and 2-3 of their top 5 non-Joba minor leaguers. However, I guess it would all come down to who the other teams offer. If Boston offered Ellsbury and Buchholz and the Twins were going to bite, how much would NY offer to keep him out of Boston? The Twins will not have a hard time finding buyers, even if Santana would command a huge deal.
Maybe we can get Santana in return for a Scoresâ„¢ franchise
Has the entire AL Central decided to mail it in against the Tigers?
I wouldn’t trade anyone for Johan. Why pay for a guy twice?
Seriously Rebecca, you just need to stretch out that arm – that and an emory board glued to your glove.
There is no way the Yankees should give up TWO top pitching prospects for Santana. That makes no sense at all, no matter how great Santana is. Two very good young cheap pitchers are more valueable than one great one. Remember, the kids are 7 years younger than Santana too.
I’d consider Cano, Kennedy and another prospect as a starting point for Santana if the fo decides a trade is necessary. Maybe Horne could be thrown in too if the Yanks don’t think he’ll become a star. Santana, Wang, Hughes and Joba is a great rotation for years to come.
I love Joba-
Now you are throwing down the gauntlet. I was a pretty darn good athlete back in the day and even played high caliber baseball into mid high school. Of course, I did have to move over from short to 2nd due to lack of arm strength.
I don’t really think it has much to do with athleticism. Throwing hard is simply amatter of generating arm speed, which is a natural talent that can be imprioved withn reason by mechanics and coaching. But I knew some pretty bad atheletes in little leagyue/legion who could still bring it.
We need CLE to get their bats going, paaallleeessseee! and you go TOR, beat those Sox! Hmmm, what is the nearest bridge in BOS? can we say we’re tasting 3 1/2 games???
Arod really helped out cabera I could see they were going to throw him a pitch in the dirt.
Rebecca,
The radar gun was broken, no doubt!
YankeeJosh – even if its the best pitcher in baseball? you know Boston would be as active as anyone in that bidding. Can the Yankees let him go to Boston even if they offer a ton of talent? That would be quite painful.
Getting Santana might be a big bonus, he might perform “Oye Como Va” for us!
If I had to pick a “natural” trade partner for the Twins, it would probably be the Dodgers. They are loaded with position prospects and have the revenue stream to support the $25M/yr that Santana will require.
The Diamondbacks have almost as deep a pool of talent, but not the cash.
Don’t count the Mets out. If Omar put two of Gomez/Martinez/Milledge in a package, the Twins would be interested.
By the way, I think the new slogan/rallying cry “27 in ’07″ fits best with my user name, do you think?
“Throwing hard is simply amatter of generating arm speed, which is a natural talent that can be imprioved withn reason by mechanics and coaching”
More specifically, it’s about having more fast twitch, A delta muscle fibers.
Dr. A–Hah! Probably!
Michael T. 60 MPH is not hard. I would be willing to bet that in your athletic prime you could hit it on a radar gun if you had time to warm up.
can boston afford Santana, after all, they’re a po’ small-market team.
I am rather partial to our “homegrown” boys. It just wouldn’t seem right to trade them for Santana. Too bad they couldn’t just buy him outright. Santana is pretty incredible. Under NO circumstances would I want JOBA traded. I LOVE JOBA!!!!!!!
Hey we could probably strike them out with our 30 mph heaters. They’d look like bugs bunny swinging at it.
Bobcat, I hope he does go to the NL if not to the yanks but not really to the mets. i cant imagine how filthy johan would be in the NL either. 1.50 ERA?
Sherri,
They can “buy” him in the 08-09 offseason. I’m pretty sure Cash said the following earlier in the season: “Why pay twice for a guy?”
Boston Dave,
I understand. And no one wants Santana here more than me. But for Santana you get 30 starts a year, where he is dominant. If you trade Joba and Hughes for him, you are losing 60 very good starts a year. So even with Santana being great 30 times, you still have 30 games you’d have to fill that you wouldn’t by keeping the players. Thus, if I am making the trade, at worst I give up ONE stud pitching prospect. Melky, Cano, Miranda, and Tabata could all be included too. But the team needs 5 starters and given what we’ve seen of Joba and Hughes, giving up 2 for 1 is not a wise move imo.
YankeeJosh: Probably not that broken. I’ve always had weak wrists; I get horrible writer’s cramp when taking exams…
This Year: Yes! Beautiful!
I am amazed at Posada’s consistency. What a valuable player to the Yanks.
dontfirecash – the twins arent letting johan hit free agency. unless they hire gilbert gottfried as the GM this offseason.
The only thing that worries me about Santana is that he’s thrown many, many innings and he’s not quite as dominant this year. He has been very durable, but we all know how quickly that could change.
“The Roof, The Roof, The roof is on fire, we don’t give a ….. ” Dang…these Yankees have NO SHOT ( LOL ) to catch the Mighty Boston Idiots….3.5 games out, with 12 games to go….TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE….RedSux need to call the jewelers and get fitter for their rings….HA !
YankeeJosh – so you would give up Joba and Cano? I’m just curious what people think… obviously nobody has any real idea what the Twins would ask for and what other teams would offer.
Trading Hughes and Joba for Santana would be a drugged out nightmare.
Boston Dave – I hear Gilbert has the inside track. Wait till he does his first press conference although he is supposed be a saber-genius.
Boston is down to three more outs.
I will dare to hope.
LET’S GO YANKEES!
I love Joba-
I think we are on the same point. In my “prime”, I could hit into the 70s at least, but it was never easy and there was now way I could do it ofr even 30 pitches in a row.
These major leaguers do it wihtout any effort. even a “joke” fastball like Wake’s is still harder than probably 98% of us could ever throw for a single pitch.
ReDSux just 3 outs from opening the door just a LEETLE wider for the Yankees to come STORMING IN !….The 2007 Division Choke Hold Illusion !!!!
MAYDAY!! MAYDAY!!
Boston is going down!
i cant believe bartolo colon won the cy young over santana in 05. saddest thing ever
I’d be impressede if Phil could finish this guy off and stretch into the 7th.
Damn their game is flying.
hughes is dealing!
Or over MO. That was the year Mo should have won it.
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you got it all wrong. my sources say Jackie the Jokeman is coming outta retirement.
“the twins arent letting johan hit free agency. unless they hire gilbert gottfried as the GM this offseason.”
Dave,
I have to disagree with you here. It is not the Twins decision to make, it is Johan’s. Unless he doesn’t care about money(which I doubt) there is no way he won’t be a FA following next season. We all know the Twins ain’t ponying up the cash to keep him.
true, colon was 3rd best, at the very least
Michael T, fair enough, but consider me in the 2% that could
Ach, c’mon Phil! One more out! LET’S GO YANKEES!
If the Yanks could acquire Santana and still employ Joba and Kennedy i’d do it. I think the world of Hughes and he is still very young and raw in some ways, but Kennedy would offset the rotation of Santana, wang, Joba and etc. I is always in my mind that the Yanks should only aquire him only if he is offered and the Redsox are invovled, but getting him as a free agent and having a rotation of
1.Santana
2.Wang
3.Joba
4.Hughes
5.Kennedy
that is a freak rotation which would blow the sox rotation out of the water. Kennedy is the only “soft” thrower of the bunch, but has better control.
If they were to obtain Santana the Yanks should package Hughes “I feel sick saying that” along with Hilligoss and Tabata. That sounds like alot of talent to give up for him. I’m at a lost on this one!
Hughes still hits the wall at 85 pitches.
OK, all you YES viewers, how does Hughes look tonight? Is he is sharper/stronger or about the same?
Someone forgot to tell Frank Thomas he has a contract for next year. He’s hitting them out tonight (3) like he’s in a contract year.
hughes last batter
no way doc, jackie is makin a comeback? tell me you are kiddin.
hurry up edwar
Oh Cmon
A wall? Expectations are WAY too high if we have to critique ayone for htis. Hes a pitch away from gettin out of it.
He looked bad the first inning, than fine thru 2-5. He hit the wall with 2 outs in the 6th.
Boston Dave,
That’s a really tough call. I’d hate giving up Joba, since his stuff looks so awesome. Santana is older and if he breaks down the trade could be awful.
I’d at least have to consider it. If I’m throwing Cano in, I’d probably try and get the Twins to take Kennedy. I love his moxy, but for Santana he’s the chip I’d try and use if the Twins bite. If not, with Joba I’d probably have to insist on giving up lesser secondary prospects or players.
Okay, who’s going to defend Phil loading the bases up?
And you guys are nuts to think of trading Joba/IPK/Hughes (any combination or any one) for Santana.
Johan is only getting older people. Let’s ride our kids as long as we can.
Man, Phil has got to get those first inning jitters out of his system!
Though, if K-Ram does the job here, Phil can get his first Stadium win…
Is anyone else not even sure if they want Ramirez to come in? I don’t know what would be worse.
eww look at the picture of reed johnson on game day.
This is where I get angry. The kid needs to learn to get out of his own mess. We have a 5-2 lead. Give him a crack. If he doesnt learn to get out of jams now, he will never learn. You cant bring someone in to save him whenever trouble comes around. I dont think he should have taken him out.
I love it!
I love it!
Frank Thomas just hit his 3rd tator of the nite off the vaunted Boston pitching staff
Please let Edwar do well!
Terry,
I agree, if you trade for Santana you can only give up one of the big three- Kennedy, Hughes, Joba.
Let’s also remember we still don’t know what Joba would do as a starter in the Bigs. He’s been awesome in relief, but can he keep it up from 7 innings? That’s still not proven.
IMO, the Yankees aren’t a good match for the Twins, trade-wise. The Twins have no position players, particulary infielders. The Yankees do not have MiLB depth in the IF, so the teams like the Angels and Dodgers, who have a ton of MLB ready IF are the best matches.
However, since the Angels won’t trade their prospects (Bill Stoneman might be the worst/luckiest GM, along with Bill Bavasi in Seattle), I would suggest Dodger blue for Santana. As I indicated earlier, that would keep him out the AL as well.
In the NL West, Santana might very well have an ERA under 2.00.
Torre the moron shows up again. Hughes has no arm strngth because he was injured fo so long. He should have had Edwar ready to go as soon as he reached 80 pitches. Cash, please ease him out next year. And if Guidry is not telling him this stuff, he should go as well.
A litte dodgy bringing in Edwar, as the most likely outcomes are strikeout or HR.
This is where you need someone who keeps the ball in the park, but I guess it is too early for Viz in the Torre playbook (TM).
Okay, who’s going to defend Phil loading the bases up?
I will. Eric Gagne was warming up and hit Phil’s elbow
Yes, Phil still can’t seem to cut down on his pitch count and/or stretch out his starts. Also, his K-to-walk ratio isn’t improving much. Hopefully he’ll get better next year once he’s 100% healthy…
Go NYR -
This is a playoff race. You take him out as he obviously cannot find the strike zone.
The kid is done. Get a fresh arm in and get out of the inning. The time for learning was a couple months ago.
I’m a little nervous with Chocolate Rain in this situation, but it’s time to get Phil out of there. He gave us a good game and it’s time for the relievers to do their part.
Already everyone wants to boot Phil back to the minors. He did good.
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digya know he got divorced from Nancy.
dontfirecash – i have to disagree with you. the twins are NOT letting santana hit free agency. they will trade him and the team that trades for him will only do so if he signs an extension. i am sure santana will only sign with a team he wants to play for, but i dont think he hits free agency. unless the twins new GM is a complete imbecile, they will sign him or trade him next season or even this offseason.
And if Joe did not take Phil out we would be yelling at Joe for mismanaging. It was time to take him out, he ran out of gas.
Going into the top of the 9th! 6-1
well…
*IT’S K-RAM TIME !!!*
YES!!!!!!
WHOOO!!!!
K-RAM YOU ARE THE MAN!
Keep the ball down there edwar!
That’s why you take HUghes out.
looks like edwar is officially one of joe’s “guys” now
Gotta win this game. I love how everyone says. 4.5 games with 13 to play is too much. Yah? what about 3.5 games with 12 to play? is that too much? Boston’s rotation is too good to lose 5 games? Really? outside of Beckett they have a shell of Schilling and 3 prayers. Please. This thing aint over.
Yes, it would be bad to get Santana and him pull a gagme!!
i did not know that Doc. seems like you got the inside scoop.. when did he 86 her? i thought they were in love forever.
Nice JOB. All in all Phil pitched a pretty good game. He had a bad first, and got into trouble in the 6th. He’s good inbetween. They just need to figure out how to fix the ends of the game.
I don’t think you can defend Hughes loading the bases. It seems to be a product of throwing alot of pitches early in the game and having nothing left in the tank in the 6th. Phil does not have the stamina needed to go beyond 100 pitches.
Oh, and Edwar is the shizzle. Nice to have a strikeout artist to bring in for situations like that.
michael t-
throwing hard is an athletic ability, but you can improve it a lot with training. for a simple training program to do with no equipment or radar gun,go on to a football field where you can measure yardage accurately. if someone can throw 90+mph they can long toss the whole 100 yards. whatever your maximum distance is, throw every day for a few weeks and you’ll see your distance increase. if your distance increases, your velocity of course does too.
What a job by Edwar!!! Mora swung at two pitches way outside the k zone.
Edwar is the man!!!
who uses the term “wall of sound” more? Michael Kay or Phil Spector?
p.s. dont fire cash – santana took much less money to stay with the twins originally. he is less likely to cry for $28M a year if he can just sign a longterm deal with a team for $25M/yr. he could….. but he seems less likely. at this point he probably jsut wants to be on a team that will contend and not be cheap in keeping their talent.
All right!! My 7:44 prediction held up, Phil did not give up any more runs!!
yeahhhh, Edwar!!! whew! And the Sox are all but sunk, the Jays closer is warmed up and on the mound! I smell blood!
Yeah, Edwar is one of “Joe’s Guys” now. Hope Edwar isn’t too attached to his arm, cuz it’s gonna fall off in a year and a half lol.
I would not want Johan anywhere nea this team. He would be our next Randy Johnson, Kevin Brown type pitcher. Plus he has let up over 30 homers. Thats a red flag to me. His homerun total has steadily increased the past few years. Johan Santana, no thanks.
Now that was impressive!!! Kid keeps his cool bases loaded and strikes him out.. Gotta love it. Go Yanks…
i am not betting on it, but boston could legitimately be swept in toronto and the yanks could and probably should sweep. even then, boston has a cake schedule with oakland and minnesota basically packing it up already. but it could get close… really close….
Looks like Toronto wants to make their game as interesting as possible…bah! End it Toronto!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
if the Yanks do well in the playoffs, will Arod smell championship and stay with the Yanks?
Kay said the o’s bullpen is arson like.
Jacoby Ellsbury just got thrown out stretching a single into a double. Down by 5 runs in the top of the ninth.
Now taht is gritty baseball by the grittiest little underdog since Pedroia.
The Yankees need to hold onto what they have now. Resign Pettite to bring that experience to the rotation. Along with Wang they will have what they need.
Gibbons is not making the same mistake with McGowan that he did with Halladay. He’s starting the 9th at 105 pitches.
go NYR – Santana is 28 – generally thought of as a pitchers prime. are you really comparing him to guys who were over 40 when NY got them?? santana is still the best pitcher in baseball. he can give up HR as long as he keeps his ERA down. he probably doesnt quite have the intensity he would ahve if he didnt know his team sucked. you can say you dont want to give up talent and $$$ for him, but its not really right to compare him to Unit and Brown.
Two outs in Toronto. Papi takes the Sombrero on the evening.
Ortiz has the silver sombrero. One more out!!
Oakland will still play Boston hard, they love to beat them too! bet on it!
Oops, just the hat trick… a 3-K night for the big fella.
Pettitte is under contract for next year. All ANdy has to do is say okay.
Come on Toronto!!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Blue Jays win, 6-1.
Denise – i hope so. its definitely possible oakland could take 2 of 3 if the pitching matchups are right.
jennifer – pettite is coming back. mark it down!!
YES! LOWELL GROUNDS OUT!!
YANKEES WIN THIS TONIGHT!!!!
GAME OVAH in Toronto.
are the Mets backing into the playoffs or what? the NL is so terrible….
what are all the Sox fans’ excuses going to be? I just can’t wait to hear them? unless of course, they are jumping off the bridge now that they lost!
that’s not a good sign Hughes is getting tutored by Guidry on his arm motion
David- We are playing the Orioles. Playoff race or no playoff race,you have to let him get out of his messes. If he lets up a grand slam, I would still feel like we will win the game
god, the red soxs are pathetic
the yankees are going to put it out of reach this inning.
Hoey Lewis comes into the game and walks the first man he sees. Great pitching, NOT!
Let’s get another late inning beatdown going so that we can rest Mo and Viz.
Where is Farnsy, anyway?
Boston Dave,
Pettitte never really left, one sub par game, so what – he’s allowed in my book – just not in the playoffs!
Excuse #1 we got into Toronto really late.
#2 we made the rookies dress up, so we didn’t pay attention to getting ready for the next game.
13-
yeah, they broke up in early 2003
excuse number 3: we suck
Brandon he’s letting him know what he did wrong during the game.
The red sox have another tough matchup tomorrow. and even when they face tampa bay its Kazmir, Sonnanstine, and Jackson (ok they will prob hit jackson)… but it wont be a piece of cake. sonnanstine shut them down once and kazmir usually does as well.
after tonight….yankees go 10-2, as Boston goes 6-5….DIVISION GOES TO YANKEES…..Totally IMPOSSIBLE,,,,RIGHT ??? WRONG !!! Optimism Rules….Set your sights high ! Division, AL..then World Championship Number 27 !!!
jeter bunting: me throwing up
Indians have a rally going.
I hate small ball.
I definitely want Pettitte back. I just read somewhere that he said he’s going to wait and see how things go, but the way he’s pitching – I see no reason he won’t be back. I hope he is!! He is very exciting to watch!
Excuse #4: The turf hurts our feet.
2 on no out against Zumaya! tying run at the plate and his name is Hafner, Travis Hafner
David- We are playing the Orioles. Playoff race or no playoff race,you have to let him get out of his messes. If he lets up a grand slam, I would still feel like we will win the game
??????
getting interesting in cleveland…
just noticed posada in the dugout watching guidry show hughes something about how to break his hands to initiate his throwing motion. posada is such a student of the game. he would make a great yankee manager when his playing career is over.
excuse #4 curt flooded the bathroom with his tears so we couldn’t get ready.
and oh, before you go to bed, pray for the D-Rays to win tonite against the Angels, since it looks like Cleveland is allowing DET to misbehave in their living room tonite.
I find myself agreeing with Michael Kay. Spooky.
what would the red soxs need to do in order to miss the playoffs?
Pudge is hurt on a foul tip! he is in major pain
Sherri – Pettite is a true Yankee and you can tell it hurts him to lose more than some of the otehr guys. definitely a true yankee and great competitor. you gotta love those guys. posada is on that list too (among others)
Papi struck out THREE TIMES
I don’t see the bosox missing the playoffs.
YEAH BOBBY!!!
WHOO!!!
Jennifer, as much as I want to agree w/ you Guidry is not a better pitching tutor than Dave Eiland so IDK why they’re letting that happen.
meanwhile Bobby Abreu is latin for LH Jeter
Arod Man you are due!!
Damon should be awarded home, there is no doubt Johnny would have made it.
excuse number 5: we have an online vote to see who is the president of our fan club
says injury delay on gameday in cleveland, anyone watching the game? is it zumaya thats hurt?
Red Sox will have to CHOKE! you know how they love to use that word on us, now maybe they will redefine it!
randy – catchers always make the best managers. posada could probably do it. i’d love to have him around in some fashion with the yanks but hopefully he can give them 4-5 more years
RBI Double for ABREU!!!! 6-2 !! GO YANKEES!!! LOVE THOSE INSURANCE RUNS!
Another Boston excuse: Playing indoors makes us claustrophobic.
C’mon, Hafner.
Luigi,
it was Pudge, he got hit on a foul tip, he stayed in the game.
“And he does his job.” /Kay
Denise – how great would that be? 14 1/2 games… it would be hard to ever top that much of a choke.
GREAT RUNNING DAMON!
Arods worst RBI of the season…. but I’ll take it!
Damon did some kind of dive into home.
thanks denise
Hell,,,if the BoSux go 5-6 the rest of the way, we can even go 9-3 and win the division….but I’ll stick with my original predicion….Yankees go 96-66 and win the division ( either by winning the division by virtue of owning the 10-8 edge in the season series over the Idiots OR by just flat out beating them, completing for THEM, one of the worse regular season collapses in baseball HISTORY ! !!! )
indians tie it
team leading sacrifice fly # 9 for Mr.MVP
Jhonny Peralta
Cleveland ties it 5-5 !!!!!!
7-2! what in the world was the O’s catcher doin that far in front of the plate to catch that ball?
Damon could have slide in normally. He really could have hurt himself.
Go NYR, are you serious comparing 28 y/o johan 20 two 40 y/o guys with bad backs?
Also, remember when damon had ridiculous hair. I think he was better.
CLEVELAND JUST TIED IT!!!
JHONNY PERALTA!
damon slide is a pretty as youkilis face
Does anyone know if Farnsy is available today?
Cleveland tied it up!
alright tribe!
I LOVE THE INDIANS!!!! (well, during this series)
uncle vito – im with you on that one
tie game in cleveland!!!!!!!!!!
yeah, CLEVELAND!!! go Peralta!
I don’t know about the rest of you, but nights like these make me feel wonderful!!
Zumaya with a 4.70 ERA now…. ouch
Go Cleveland….5/5
Tom Caron and Jim Rice (NESN post-game) are talking about how the Red Sox have a 6 game edge for the Wild Card, and how it’s not whether you win the Division, but that you get into the playoffs. Their contention is that the RS “should” be okay for the WC.
Mat with one tI was basically saying that the Yankees dont have much luck with big name pitching acquisitions. They come here and get hurt or are horrible. Its not worth giving up our prospects or a ton of money for a 30 year old pitcher. Its not long before the downside of his career starts.
Boston Dave, 100 agree with you, was a way for a few minutes when i saw that ridiculous post.
Also, ball flys out of the homer dome in left.
yanks should do everything in their power to get santana.
If the Yanks take care of business and win 2 of 3 against Baltimore, even if Detroit takes 2 of 3 from Cleveland, the Yanks would then be just 1 behind Cleveland. If the Yanks pass cleveland, then you let the Tigers and Indians fight it out for the Central and secure the wild card. So, Tigers victories do help, though not as much as Tigers losses obviously.
I believe Farnsworth’s neck is still STIFF!
Too bad Indians have Borowski.
J-Dawg: It’ll make me feel wonderful if the Yankees win–I take nothing for granted.
LET’S GO YANKEES!
So they are conceding the division while they still lead it. Wow talk about giving up already!
zumaya not the same pitcher he was
bobcat – isnt the great??? the sox themselves are already putting up their shield with the “well, even if we do lose the division we can still get the WC”…. how things change!!!!
come back to us K-RAM !!!
Who is available tongiht? We need to get someone ready.
ahhh.. the trolls (-. . –. .- – .. …- .. – -.– .-. ..- .-.. . …) are even gripping for anything they can to stop the freefall
Mat- With the Yankees young prospects there is no need to get an aging veteran. That was the whole point of loading up the farm system.
I don’t know if they are conceding the division, but they are certainly very, very nervous, because they just can’t find any SP, other than Beckett. He’s been a true ace for them (like him or not), but after that, it’s actually pretty awful.
Guitar Hero > Zumaya
Viz warming. I can’t believe Krazy Kyle has been sidelined this long…is it still the stiff neck that ails him?
Re: Johan, I think it’s important to remember a lot of big name, very successful pitchers have struggled upon coming to new york. guys who have been just as good as johan, if not better. clemens needed at least a year to adjust and rj fell apart.
Oh it gets better, AJ Burnett is going boston and lester tomorrow
Ach, c’mon K-Ram! You can do this! Two more outs!
funny isn’t it Dave.
Robbie was a little too short. That took a long time get get over his head.
Bobcat,
that is too funny them talking about the WC……I so wish I could fast forward about 2 weeks
Ugh. Bloop.
lol Sherri
Amazing isn’t it BBB. Jorge gets knocked into next week and plays the next day. Kyle sleeps wrong, and is out a week.
real BBB-
_Krazy Kyle has been sidelined this long…is it still the stiff neck that ails him?_
yeah, he uses too much viagra on the road.
“elsbury=beltron”
ahahahahahhaha
…dude needs to get the HOOK RIGHT NOW !!!
Yanks have not had luck with big name guys lately. They had some pretty good luck with Key, Cone, Wells and even Mussina
their luck would change if they traded for good pitchers as opposed to media hyped bums like UNIT, vazquez, pavano and Brown. Unit was way over the hill when he joined the team. His numbers were much better in the NL.
Stay away from the marginal national league pitchers.
Johan — proven commodity. There are like 5-6 guys in his league. Halliday, Peavey, Oswalt, Webb and sabathia as of late.
if the yanks are going to make a move, they should only go for that calibre of player.
NYR and PBL – i cant argue if you are saying that the yanks should keep Joba and Hughes… but dont call Johan a risk or an aging veteran. he is in his prime and ill take any best from anyone who thinks he will falter. he is nasty.
bets* not best
When Posada retires, I want him managing the Yankees.
Yeah.
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Does anyone remember when Zumaya pitched against us last series? He dominated us.
yes-Farnsworth neck is stiff,he made himself unavailable….just god, please don’t hold tryouts again Torre, we already know Britton can’t string 2 outs!
otherwise, i agree holding onto the prospects too.
what a GREAT MOVE by Torry…let a failing Edwar face the best hitter in their lineup with 2 runners on base…SO SMART !~
damn F’n Orioles stealing signs
who is coming in from the Pen????
Well he hit him. Lets hope Viz can take care of busniness.
KEWL….now the tying run comes to the plate in the form of a former ( nah, current ) Idiot and who is gonna toe the rubber for this challenge ????….drum roll here…
LMAO Dr. Acula! That must be it.
For such a big dude, Krazy Kyle seems *awfully* delicate…
opps, we forgot that we still have to win this game
Go Viz!!!
The Viz,,,gotta admit…I agree with the choice though…
Great. Bases are loaded and a Yankee killer who can hit low pitches will be up against a sinker baller. Lets hove the Viz gets the best of Millar.
Is it me or are the Yankees’ secret members of the American Heart Attack Association?
We have to trade Kyle in the off season. We can’t have a reliever not being able to pitch everyday.
Viz, wow, can he be tired?
Denise,
In watching the Red Sox’ broadcasts, the tone and tenor reminds of the pre-2004 days… object resignation to the worst that could happen, happening.
Why did the zone change?
damn you millar, damn you
com’on Viz I believe in you !!!
What is with the necklaces that viz wears?
Who’s next?
Oh god, DET just stole 2nd base and elbowed Tribe 2nd baseman in the process
…That would be a yes.
Who is hurt in the Tiger game?
GO YANKEES!!!!! C’mon VIZ ~~~ get this OUT!!!!!
Real BBB-
there’s this tell all on Farnsy from two years ago (almost to the exact date).
http://deadspin.com/sports/bas.....126277.php
and that same runner, Maybin, ran on a ground ball and Tribe got him out at 3rd! ha ha!
Kind of a big pitch here…
didnt felix heredia use to wear number 52?
Santana will probably never happen since the twins would pretty much require
Melky
Joba
Hughes
I just dont see their GM getting out of the twin cities alive if he makes a trade for anything less during this offseason.
if the yankees can get him for less, they should pull the trigger.
Look, you need to selectively move guys in the minors when they have value for major league ready guys, especially if you can get studs like santana.
WOOOO!!! C’MON VIZ!!!! ONE MORE!!!!
Is there a reason that Torre is treating this game like it doesnt matter? You allow Ramirez to load the bases before you take him out?? Why didnt Viz start the inning…Since when is Ramirez a pitcher that should be trusted in the 7th inning of a game you have to win?? Where is Farns…??? What is Clueless doing with this game..He is treating it like the game against Toronto when he brought Britton in..Makes no sense…
Viz wears magnetic necklaces
migames who is this felix that you speak of? I don’t recall him. You can call it selective memory though.
Denise what is it supposed to do?
Nice pitching by VIZ!
jen — i think those are magnets. but my wife thinks they are magic beads.
He’s the Viz and nobody beats him!
Yeah, got Milla!
NOBODY BEATS THE VIZ !!!
*NOBODY BEATS THE VIZ*
(And yeah, the Yanks are definitely on the payroll of cardiologists everywhere…)
*THAT’S RIGHT DAMMIT NOBODY BEATS THE VIZ !!!!!* …
Where is Bob?
hey — wheres bob shepard???
torre did what he had to do. go vizzie
That’s right. Sit down, IDIOT!
Indians going into bottom of 9th
THE VIZ!!! Nobody beats him!
My freakin’ MLBTV went blank right as he was pitching. I almost had a stroke!!!
cashman really did a great job with the RJ trade
he shed a ton of payroll and we got 3 guys who are contributing on the team right now, meanwhile RJ may never play again
please stop loading up the bases every damn inning!
king felix the 1st
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/14/140945m.JPG
Bob Shepard-Drinking some beers with the squirrel and shelley duncan
Boston has what pitcher going tomorrow nite? I know AJ is going for TOR
Dr. Acula: hahahaha priceless!!! Sounds like Farnsy has some Shawn Kemp style baby mama drama!
Agreed, unloading Unit was crucial.
I’m guessing Torre was trying to save Viz for the 8th inning. With Joba and Farnsy unavailable unless the Yanks score more runs, who’s gonna pitch the 8th?
now lets blow this game open to get Ohlendorf his Yankee Stadium debut
Sherri,
MLB tv is horrible, you need to spend a little more cash and get MLB Extra Innings, totally worth it.
Tribe lead off guys BB!
mlb tv screwing everything up
I know who Felix is, I was just joking. I don’t want to remember who he is though.
Jorge, your being greedy!!
lester
You can have Ramirez start the inning. However, he has to be out of there after the Roberts hit. That was a mistake and it cost them.
For whatever reason, they can’t pitch to this lineup. The only way to beat them is to keep scoring. Need more than 7 tonight.
Farnsworth either is still hurt or may pitch the 8th.
Jorge has got to stay at first. Its the 5th time in the last month he has gotten thrown out trying to stretch a single into a double.
NOTE TO SLOW YANKEES!
dont run on Markakis
WHY in the world was Posada trying to double on Makakis? with nobody out?????
Ach, Posada was safe. No matter, Yankees still up.
Jorge was right, he was safe. Tough call for the ump though.
The Bostons are in desperate need of a quality start, so they are breaking the “Clay Rules” and starting Buckholz on Wednesday, and pushing everyone else to later in the week. Matsuzaka will pitch on 6 days’ rest.
Did you guys just hear what Carlos Pena siad on BBTN? Bulletin board.
how many more runs do we have to score so that some of our regulars can get the rest of the night off?
Posada was safe…But more of his idiotic base running. For some reason he thinks he is a fast runner.
Denise – I’ve been holding out, but I think I’m going to have to do that!!!
Boston Dave – I’m not doubting johan’s talent, but clemens on the heels of 3 cy youngs needed at least a year to adjust to new york.
Denise – Lester is going for Boston
What did he say passerby?
POsada was clearly safe. More anti-Yankee conspiracy. Oliver Stone is directing this thing. And Kay as usual has no clue.
Tribe bunted lead off guy over successfully……
I think Pena was notioning the “special medicine” he injected into his behind this spring.
PBL – I suppose but I don’t think you can throw a blanket statement out there that all pitchers will have to adjust just because. Adjusting for Santana might be 20-8 with a 3.20 ERA followed by seasons of 22-6 2.80 and some rings.
Cumberberg: Probably need at least 10, right now a grand slam can still tie it…
LET’S GO YANKEES! LET’S GET SOME MORE RUNS!
Ravich to Steve Philips on BBTN- “Steve is jonesing for the Yankees to give it up.” To which Kruk replied “Steve just admit you don’t like them.:
When asked by Ravetch to rank Angels, Sox and Yankees, he said yankees are certainly the most hated team and He ranked Angels, Sox and Yankees in that order.
over looking pete blog from saturday’s game during the break. this killed me:
UPDATE, 4:52 p.m.: I see Dane Cook in the Fox booth. What a time to not have a hand grenade. I remember hearing about him last year, wondering what all the fuss was about and then watching his show on HBO. It was brutal.
I used to get comedy albums when I was a kid. Richard Pryor, Steve Martin, Eddie Murphy, Rodney Dangerfield. Those guys were funny. Dane Cook is like a drunk guy at a bar at 2 a.m. who thinks he’s funny and he’s not.
But some marketing whiz at MLB figures he’s down with the kids and they hire him to do promos. You know who should do promos? Roberto DeNiro. Everybody likes DeNiro. Or Denzel Washington. Who doesn’t like him? Get Jay-Z. But Dane Cook?
OK, rant over. Back to baseball.
Indians – 2 outs, 2 on, bottom 9th
anybody watching cleveland? they are threatening!
tribe bunting:gross
I’m just gonna call Robi the hit machine from now on
Going into the 10th in Cleveland, 5-5.
three outs – on to the 10th
We are going into extras.
WHOA what a sight for sore eyes. KYLE
pat, that’s funny. phillips really should admit it. id give him more credit than him trying to act like an unbiased weasel.
Indians going into extras, guess I’ll be staying up late tonight!
oh no FARNSY
and now Francona will pitch Clay “golden boy” Buccholz on Wed? sign of desperation?
hafner out again… seems so long ago but he was once actually a feared hitter. 4 men LOB in the last 2 innings.
The o’s have walked over 600 batters!! WOW
Denise – i hope they pitch Buchholz. he will have a tougher time with Toronto and he is approaching his “max innings”. i hope they push him too hard…
Will francoma hide his laptop?
Dougie is looking like a damn fine 1B these days.
struck out Granderson!
haha, i am already getting excited that Tampa got a man on in the first against the angels… shows how exciting this season has been.
Not our inning, no worries, still up by four!
LET’S GO YANKEES! LET’S WIN THIS THING!
I always have liked Minky. Him and A-Rod are buddies and I think he plays with heart. GO DAMON!!!!!
lotta pressure on clay to perform.
more likely than not, he’ll just be so so like most rookies whose names are not joba.
Boston Dave, your dispatches have the air of a resistance fighter in occupied France during WW2. I love it. Keep the faith, brother.
hasn’t hafner been struggling with injuries all year?
yeah well, a no hitter against the lowly Orioles is a lot different when your team desparately needs you and you are not pitching at Fenway…..Jays need to work the count on him Wed nite.
Sherri – good point. I like Minky too. he may not be an every day 1b but he’s a good guy to have on the team.
They are starting Buckholz because they need to push Matsuzaka to 6 days’ rest. He has been brutal the past two months.
luigi – probably. he cant be this bad. either way, i hope the injuries linger into the division series against the yanks
1st and 3rd no outs for tampa
escobar getting in a little trouble
Viz back out for the 8th, how many outs is Torre asking of him?
I know you guys probably know this, but did you see where Buckholz already has his own blog? http://www.buchwild.com (careful with the spelling!)
are the sox definitely starting Buchholz? last i heard it could be Clay or Tavarez.
This should be Igawa, Britton, Bruney, or Ohlendorf’s inning. No need to run Viz out back there, again.
Supposedly, Buckholz will be on a very strict pitch count on Wednesday, as he’s near his pre-set limit. The vets in the Red Sox’ clubhouse are clamoring for him to start game 2 of the ALDS, as he’s “clearly the second best pitcher we have”.
every time he catchs a pop up an Angel gets it’s wings
polanco doubled – sheffield struck out – 1 on – 2 outs
At this point in time we’re as close to Boston as Detroit is to us…. This is going to be a fun (and sleepless) two weeks.
Dave,
Tito said on “Terry’s Take” that he was (tonight’s post-game).
Sherri…. wow… i just went to the Buchholz blog. rather than making it seem like he is tooting his own horn, he has “The Baseball Insider” post his accolades for him. what a joke. I don’t see Joba doing this.
I’m crackin open a beer to settle in… what’s everyone drinking?
thanks Bobcat
thanks Bobcat
sherri — wow, i hadn’t seen that. he certainly has linked a lot of news articles about himself…
I read somewhere that the boston guys did blogs b/c their sports guys were not that great and they were afraid of getting misquoted. Don’t know if that’s true or not, but I thought he didn’t waste any time.
Baltimore, what a lousy franchise. they gotta pretty big market too.
betancourt should be clevelands closer
He was on Jim Rome one day and told about his blog.
Come on you freakin Indians!
Someone punish this Zack Miner dude!
Alex is bored
Buckholz blog just makes me love JOBA more!!!!!
cmon put Garko into the game!
Adam,
I meant to drink half the wine bottle tonite and save the other half for tomorrow nite, but I’m on my 3rd glass and goin strong
Go Cleveland! Gotta love the scoreboard tonight (so far)!
Very nice Denise. Good to see you keepin it classy with wine.
this … is … a … long … game …
was there a rain delay or something?
Wow – did you see that pitch by ViZ?
GO INDIANS!!!
1-0 tampa
DET walked Perolta. Tribe pinch runnin for him
As I said before,
*Nobody beats the Viz*
Let’s go Indians
LET’S GO YANKEES!
yes, classy, how pathetic am I drinking a bottle of Silver Oak Cabernet by myself???
The Jake is rockin!
WHoa Jay take a chill pill!! Suspension coming? one can only hope for a former dirty sox.
FU Payton!!! Gaaaawd what a bitch!!!
:extendsmiddlefingertoPaytonwhileshouting:
*NOBODY BEATS THE VIZ !!!!*
already 30 pitches for Escobar in the first against Tampa
The Vizardry continues!!
Yeah Jeter! Yeah Bobby! WHOO!
tigers / indians on to the 11th
nice pitch count on Escobar in 1st inning!!!
Woohoo Bobby!!
WAY TO GO JETER!!! GO YANKEES!! WAIT – GO BOBBY!! 8-3 YANKEES!!
Alex is due!! don’t get yourself out!!
Hoping for a Shelly Duncan sighting tonight
Good thing we’re winning because there’s little doubt that Detroit will win too.
GROUNDZILLA
This is so hard to watch after this past weekend. The Orioles are so awful.
the phantom slide spooks Tejada
-..–
don’t see “little doubt” DET will win. the home team usually wins those kind of games.
do i have to ask again? what’s everyone drinking?
Here is the 4th best hitter in the AL batting 6th….
Remember when the orioles were a terrific team?
Another lousy year for them.
Me? I’m drinking water.
Hydration keeps you optimistic!
ok, Indians, let get it done in the 11th!
Bottom 11th in Cleveland…
Mountain Dew for me, caffeine keeps me going!!
anybody see that funny fall tonight by Red Sox SS Alex Cora
lol Becca, if you say so
SHELLEY SIGHTING!
DDP for me – caffeine!
duncan in the house
Bobcat,
Hard to watch? Oh my god, I am in sight of Shelly Duncan too! this is the best, the game AND the scoreboard, (so far!)
SHELLEY!!!!!!
omg enough with these pitching changes baltimore
The Indians need to channel the spirit of the Browns yesterday and knock off a division rival!! I still can’t believe they scored 51, even against the pathetic Bengals defense!!
im drinking coffee, shelley duncan is drinking napalm to quell his heartburn
i thought this blog seemed a little hyper for a monday night. too much mountain dew, man. that stuff is radioactive. i bet you shelley duncan drinks like 15 mountain dews per game.
GO INDIANS!!!!!!
lofton grounded out to second, one out
Come on Yankees! THREE MORE OUTS! YOU CAN DO IT!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
(uh, who pitches the 9th?)
hang your head in shame Robi popping out to a AA SP w/ no control
I still can’t stand Kenny Lofton.
The “hard to watch” part is the effort by the O’s…
did anybody see the so-called fantasy expert on espn who said to bench all cleveland brown players from your lineup
thats worse than steve phillips!!!
Liz sucks….
The Orioles will never be a good team since Cal left. Their owner could give 2 sh-ts about them, all Angelos cares about is his law firm….and money. he won’t sell b/c he is still making good money off owning the O’s. it is sad, b/c Camden Yards is a beautiful ball park, been there many of times, there are plenty of ball fans in the area, they just don’t see a point in going to the park with that product on the field.
as much as i love robbie, he just needs to work that count and not shallow pop on the first pitch with the bases loaded
lol migames- i think he just mainlines the napalm.
shelley duncan starts everyday with a protein shake made from Carnation Instant Breakfast, one dozen eggs, pure Colombian cocaine, and rattlesnake venom. He injects it directly into his neck with a syringe
INDIANS WIN!!!!!
Indians win.
Indians win walkoff HR
THANK YOU CASEY BLAKE !!!!!!!
Indians WIN
CASEY BLAKE!!! INDIANS WIM
INDIANS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
casey blake!!!!
My idea of fantasy anything is to draft all your guys on draft day, set the roster and see what happens.
Yeah, I never win.
Thank you Casey Blake!! INDIANS WIN!!!!
Indians win!
Indians won! Homerun by casey blake
Huge win for the Injuns. Worst they can be after this series is 3.5 up.
INDIANS WIN!
what a great night for yankee fans
Nice. we’re closer to boston than Detroit is to us now.
ladies and gentelman, i think its ok to say now that the yankees will make the playoffs
Casey Blake longball!!! Yeah!!! Ok, and no mountain dew here, just now shocked that Farnsworth is out there! and of course, he walked his first!
Ach, c’mon Farnsy! You can do this! I want to go to sleep at a reasonable hour tonight!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
that’s not cool bobcat.
grrrrrr @ leadoff walks.
Rebecca – I’m way to anal to do that!! We lost week 1 from our fantasy team, but we’ve won week 2. This is my first year to do it, and it’s fun!
Tonight has been a good night for Yankee baseball!!!!!! Let’s just get this finished up! GO YANKEES!!!
I need a tranquilizer when Farnsworth is pitching. Come on!!
Robby Cano!!
ROBI !!!
i love to be the first with Breaking NEWS!!
Robbie!!!! Nice play!!!!!!
ROBBIE JOE!!!!! What an AWESOME play!!!!!
lol miagames, as long as it’s pure columbian
Bullpen won’t be in great shape for tomorrow. With Edwar, Viz and Farns used tonight and no Joba. Hopefully will be a blowout win.
i missed it…. what did Cano do??
HAHA Sherri- best name of the year, Robbie Joe!!
TPA up 2-0
com’on Farnsy slider here
Joba is not available tomorrow night. Viz is not as well. So with a 5 run lead, let’s put in Farnsworth. The night is great, but Torre is still a moron as far as handling a pitching staff is concerned. Earth to Joe: who are you pitching in relief of Mussina tomorrow night when he is out in the 5th or 6th?
fyi – Tampa up 2-0…. could it be a 4 game sweep tonight (NY and Cleve win, LA and BOS lose)
unbelievable play by cano! he was so far into shortstop territory jeter had to duck when cano threw the ball.
Angels fans got the CLE v. DET score and they booed it!
dammit stop making it interesting Farnsy
oh – I didn’t even realize I said that! That’s what we always call him here at home b/c his name is Robinson Jose Cano, so we call him “Robbie Joe”!
phillies might blow an 11-0 lead…. now up 12-9 with tying man on and alfonseca pitching (that guy is atrocious)
What a night……Mets lose, ditto Detroit and Boston and the Phillies are winning……..Lets Go Tampa Bay
Farnsy. Come on! You can do this! Two more outs!
With an off day Thursday, wonder if they’d consider using Kennedy in the pen tomorrow. Moose to Ian to Mo?
Let’s go Kyle, two more outs!! Stop making us nervous (if you can).
ive had enough of these 4 hour games
TORRE will have to bribe the bats tomorrow so he won’t have to use the depleted bullpen….don’t count O’s out yet, Farnsworth isn’t done stinking up the mound!
do the Angels really prefer to play the Yankees? Boston is the one who is struggling.
Farnsy, Farnsy, Farnsy… gotta be better than this.
Calling in Mo…..
Denise – does this mean the Angels WANTS to play the Yankees? Are they seeking an early postseason exit?
throw a strike krazy kyle
ansky – could be a perty good night
One more out!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
correction – warming up Mo….
sit down mo
cmon Farns…one more!
One more!!
We could probably use Britton, Kennedy, and even Igawa if need be for tomorrow’s game.
com’on Farnsy !!! god it pains me to say it, I believe in you too some how some way !!!!!
Mussina for 5, Ohlendorf for 1, Pettitte for 1, Edwar for 1, Mo for 1, if it’s a close game.
get up mo
phillies bullpen is awful… 12-0 to 12-10 now… tying run at the plate.. something tells me cards are gonna get a walkoff win..
Yeah, why would the Angels want us in the ALDS? they’ve owned us! Boston plays them better. Check out the cheer to take Farnworth out!
Put it away Farnsy!!!! lets go yanks!!!!
why are we burning down the pen in a game like this
Optimistically speaking, there is NO reason Mo should have to be in this game…
Ah, well, we’re still winning…
christ, let him finish the inning
Go sit down, Farnsy….geez…. the boo-bees are out!
Ladies and Gents
The G.O.A.T is in the house!
Curse Farnsworth for making us even begin to believe that he had mended his ways!!! This guy is just so brutal…
When you see the word disaster in the dictionary Farns. picture should be right next to it. What did he throw 50 pitches in that inning? The AAA kids are better then him.
the Yanks ahve played the Angels fine this year and will be the hot team going into the playoffs.
is anyone watching the catastrophic collapse of the Phillies?
this is truly pathetic that Farnsworth well rested arm couldn’t close this thing out…..I sure hope we don’t need him in the postseason…its like he is on Boston’s payroll or something.
Honestly, I want to see the Angels in the first round so we can finally end this “Yankees can’t beat Angels” crap.
My sympathies to Mariano’s arm…and the arms of all the other burned-out arms in the Yanks’ pen…
could the Phillies actually crack again ?
I would have given Farnsworth one more batter. Try and avoid Mo tonight at all costs. Oh well.
12-11, Pujols up.
mo will pitch max 3 pitches, he is ready tomorrow. he pads his saves. Igawa pitches tomorrow
ugh!
Any chance Farnsworth will be gone next year? (I hope)
Farnsworth can’t even be trusted to close a garage door. Come on Mo!!
Farsworth must be liquored up again
Ummm…make that “burned-out relievers”…My bad!
Come on Yankees. One more out. Please, my heart can only take so much!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Doesnt it seem like everyone these days has great numbers against Mo?? His 1 pitch is clearly not enough anymore.
espn…has said several times that the yankees won…wow, the game isn’t even over yet. what’s the matter with them?
Boston Dave,
no we haven’t! Angels are so aggressive on us and their gambles always seem to pay off and make us look stupid.
get this last freakin out paaallleeez!
farnsorth looks so afraid out there. how can you be afraid when you throw that hard. he’s go to get some optimism and pitch without fear.
i can’t believe rivera is coming into this game.
can we get proctor back for betemit? we need some one for the 8th inning !!!
COME ON MO!!!!! ONE MORE STRIK!!!!
This one is not Farnsy’s fault, when was the last time he’s pitched? He has turned it around the last few weeks. this game not withstanding. The Yanks will need him in the playoffs.
Can’t we have a quiet ninth for a change…This is just getting to be too much to endure!!!
thank god for MO !!!
OH there is a GOD!
phew
EXIT SANDMAN!!! YANKEES WIN! THEEEEEEEE YANKEES WIN!!!!!
randy,
We have Joba and Viz for the 8th inning… Farns was there for the 9th trying to close it out.
Should have been Igawa Time.
YES!
*PHIL HUGHES GETS HIS FIRST YANKEE STADIUM WON*
3.5 back of Boston, 3 in the Loss column
3.5 up in the WC, 4 up in the Loss column
Whoo!
Unfortunate Mo had to come in, unfortunate Hughes couldn’t finish the QS, but we won and the other guys lost.
Whew. That was a LOOONG game!!
Phew…Thank god those runs were charged to Farnsy’s ERA (where they rightfully belong!!!)…
Piece of Cake ;>)
3.5 Games Back of the BoSox; 3.5 Games Up on the Tigers.
YANKEES WIN!! We inch closer to Boston and farther away from Detroit. Perfect!
ESPN News has the coverage on now…
And yes, thank goodness for Mo!! Although he shouldnt have had to come in in the first place, grrr @ Krazy Kyle.
But woo hoo for gaining a game on Detroit! Thank you Casey Blake!
no fear when mo’s there..
cards almost had a 2 run double there.. rowand misreads and takes the catch comfortably.. its 12-11..:)
So between the 9th yesterday and the 9th today, who else’s nerves are completely shot?
I need a pink drink, stat!!
maybe we can get OJ out of jail for the set up role!
so far this season, 5 – 8 against the Orioles. That’s a championship season all right!
It’s all been downhill for O.J. after they stopped making the Naked Gun movies.
why does Mo have to make it interesting so much lately? is he lights out still?
Farnsworth hasn’t pitched in over a week. You expect rust.
The problem is, short starts burns out bullpens. They need starters to go deeper so you don’t burn guys like Ramirez and Viz for multiple innings.
Also, if you look at the season series, the Orioles have pounded every Yankee pitcher this year. For whatever reason, they own the Yankees offensively.
Its why they need to score 10+ runs a game against them. Anything less, its still a game.
Every year, there is a team Yankee pitchers can’t get out. Two years ago, it was Tampa Bay. This year, its Baltimore.
Farnsworth pitched poorly, but it never seems to me a good idea to boo your player. Great Rivera got the job done as he usually does. However, with a five-run lead in the ninth inning, we still needed Rivera to secure the win, and that bothers me!
lol Denise
I think Mo is simply fatigued, used-and-abused, etc., etc. It’s a disease affecting everyone in the Yankee bullpen these days… (except maybe Joba, and even that is changing now!)
right mike- i meant to set up rivera or to spell him when he should be unavailable.
i still wish we had proctor back. it constantly seems like the yankees are a decent reliever short out there. if not proctor than someone. anyone. having to bring your closer in a game like that. damn.
but wow! the lead is 3 1/2 on the tigers and it’s 3 1/2 behind the red sox. there’s a nice symmetry to that. it’s been a good night.
I don’t blame you Peter, when I have to listen to John and Susan (however she spells it) I often want to take the night off from baseball too
GO YANKEES, great win, with of course the exception of Krazy Kyle
The problem wiht Farnsworth is he stinks. If he just stunk that would be bad enough but he stinks and cannot pitch more then 1 inning or in back to back games and often is not available becuase of numerous maladies.
they have 3 guys in the penthat is it.. the rest are nothing; mo, viz, and joba and that is it…
Hughes looked good except for his usual terrible 1st inning , why does he stink in the first inning…
this pen is why torre burns everyone out… the Orioles probably left 13 men tonight…
BJ Upton steals HOME…. 4-3 Tampa
I dunno, I think OJ would be available and we know he needs the money, since his book proceeds goes to his buddy, Ron’s, family….
BJ Upton just stole home to make it TAMPA up 4-3!
Orioles left 11 on base, we left 12!
Hughes must need longer to warm up on days that he starts….
“The Yankees will need him (Farnsworth) in the playoffs.”
To do what, open the champagne bottles with his teeth? The best thing about tonight’s win is Farnsworth further exposing himself as untrustworthy without costing us a game. And spare me all the excuses about rust, his sore neck, his glasses being too tight, etc. The guy’s horrible and always has been. Cash should keep him off the post season roster as it’s the only way to keep Joe from using him in a big spot.
Terrific win all around and with Mussina going tommorow, Joe was 100% right to empty the pen to lock this one up. Pick up two more on Boston by close of business on Sunday, and next week will be very, very interesting.
the Orioles announcer, former player, Rick Dempsey, can’t even pronounce Cano’s name right, he did it twice…so funny
sweet victory
Question is…Will Mussina be effective tomorrow, or back to his old ways?
In the meantime, hopefully A.J. Burnett can school Boston like he did the Yankees the last time out.
call me crazy but i really expect Mussina to pitch well tomorrow – by well I mean 6 1/3 2ER but that isnt bad
same place, same time – tomorrow nite! pray for same results! I’m going to bed
nite Denise
Mussina s/b fine tomorrow, just how long is the question
oh god Wussina pitching tomorrow
APB on every bat in the Yankees lineup tomorrow, stand on alert
Farnsworth should have to earn a playoff roster spot. You cannot be inconsistent and be trusted.
Proctor would have been used and likely would have lost a few games in the past few weeks–great trade for Betimit, and Joe’s toy was taken away.
Wait for Santana to be a free agent. I agree with Cashman–why pay for him twice? He’s NOT going to sign an extension without testing the market.
Mussina has to pitch his way onto the post-season roster. They are trying to win the WS, not make a temperamental pitcher happy.
If Burnett toasts the Sox, and Yankees win tomorrow—two in the loss column with 11 to play??? Could it happen?
If the Devil Rays had just held on to those 2 games last week it would only be 1 in the loss column right now.
Also, I hope the guys come ready to score some runs tomorrow. We are probably going to need a lot in order to win. Hopefully A-Rod can get back on track tomorrow. He’s due for a homer.