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Game 154: Blue Jays at Yankees

Peter Abraham
September
22

Here is the lineup:

YANKEES
Cabrera CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui LF
Posada C
Giambi DH
Cano 2B
Mientkiewicz 1B
Hughes RHP (4-3, 4.75)

Pregame chatter: Yanks are facing RHP Shaun Marcum (12-6, 4.15). He lasted only five innings against the Yankees on Sept. 12, giving up four runs. … Jeter has hit in eight straight at 14 of 37. … Cabrera is 3 for his last 38 with one run scored. … Yanks have won 11 of 14. … Players didn’t have to report until 11:30 today and half the team isn’t here yet.

UPDATE, 12:00 p.m.: Roger Clemens expects to be able to start Monday despite a little “stinger” in his left hamstring. … The President of Panama, Martin Torrijos Espino, will throw out the first pitch. I suspect Mariano Rivera will catch it. … Kyle Farnsworth is probably not available because a tight shoulder.

Actor John Turturro was in the clubhouse before the game. He was good as Billy Martin in The Bronx Is Burning. But he was better in Quiz Show, Do The Right Thing and Miller’s Crossing if you ask me. Good actor any way you slice it.
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UPDATE, 1:01 p.m.: The tarp is on the field but the rain seems to be letting up. I’ll let you know when they announce a starter time.

UPDATE, 1:06 p.m.: Here is some pre-game audio for you:

Roger Clemens talks about his hamstring:

Joe Torre on assorted subjects:

UPDATE, 1:34 p.m.: Well, the tarp is still on the field. They’re showing Andy Pettitte’s “Yankeeography” on the scoreboard and I’m listening to Jackson Browne on my iPod. Not much else to tell you at this point.

UPDATE, 2:03 p.m.: They’re pulling the tarp off the field now. The start time is scheduled for 2:30.

UPDATE, 2:35 p.m.: The president of Panama threw out the first pitch and Mo came out to catch it. As he got behind the plate, Posada offered him his mask. Mo declined. The prez tossed a 59-footer that bounced past Mo.

UPDATE, 2:37 p.m.: First pitch, 2:37 after a delay of 1:12. Now we’ll see if the Franchise can have a good first inning for a change.

UPDATE, 2:44 p.m.: Good start for the kid. He needed to get over those first inning issues he had.

Still overcast here in the Bronx. But the rain is supposedly gone for good today. Huge crowd at the park.

UPDATE, 2:48 p.m.: Anybody checking out the blog from within the park today? Drop me an e-mail with your impressions and I’ll post them. There could be something in it for you. PAbraham@LoHud.com.

UPDATE, 3:00 p.m.: It’s fascinating to watch Hughes mature. Two weeks ago, that jam would have led to two runs. Instead he works his way out of it by getting a weak swing out Lind that leads to a double play. He has a lot of composure for 21-year-old.

UPDATE, 3:07 p.m.: Alex Rodriguez, in addition to everything else, is a heck of a base runner. He goes first to third well not because he is especially fast, but because he always makes a good read on the ball. He doesn’t get himself thrown out very often. Jeter runs the bases the same way, with as much smarts as speeds. It’s the kind of thing guys like Melky need to learn.

UPDATE, 3:09 p.m.: That’s the kind of thing hitting coaches love, a hitter getting turned loose on a 3-0 pitch and hammering a line drive. So may hitters are OBP-conscious that they automatically take that pitch. But Posada is such an aggressive player offensively.

They have a chance to turn this into a big inning.

UPDATE, 3:24 p.m.: Tough to get three hits and walk in one inning and score once but the Yankees found a way. Can’t get a starter off the hook like that. Melky is now 3 for 40.

Meanwhile, for all the good things Robbie Cano does, he still mixes in a knucklehead move from time to time. That was clearly Mientkiewicz’s ball and he bumped into him for some reason. The scorer gave Cano an error for “inhibiting the catch.”

UPDATE, 3:57 p.m.: So much for my faith in Phil Hughes. A guy with his stuff has to be able to put away a “hitter” like Curtis Thigpen, who was 0 for 23 and was hitting .203.

If it wasn’t official before, it is now. Your postseason rotation will be Chien-Ming Wang, Andy Pettitte, Roger Clemens and Mike Mussina. Argue all you’d like, but that’s what it will be be. Torre has been dropping hints left and right and this latest disappointment from Hughes will seal it.

UPDATE, 4:03 p.m.: Shaun Marcum left the game with a sore right knee. Yanks down 3-1 here in the bottom of the fourth. That scoring update is for loyal reader Kasey, who is in a bus somewhere with his band headed for a gig.

UPDATE, 4:47 p.m.: Bad day by Jason Giambi, who has the hat trick and has left three men on base, two in scoring position.

Meanwhile, it seems to me that Torre is trying Ron Villone in a variety of spots to determine his postseason worthiness. … You have to like what you see out of Ross Ohlendorf. He throws strikes

UPDATE, 5:06 p.m.: That’s 145 RBI for A-Rod, the most for a Yankee since Don Mattingly had 145 in 1985. Since 1938, the only Yankee with more was Joe DiMaggio, who drove in 155 in 1948.

UPDATE, 5:15 p.m.: That’s 102 RBI on the season for Hideki Matsui. … A-Rod has scored 137 runs.

UPDATE, 5:34 p.m.: Anybody who believes that the Yankees are going gung-ho for the division title, please take note of Jose Veras being allowed to labor here in the seventh inning of a game they lead.

Torre told us before the game that he would rest the Viz and I guess he meant it. Krazy Kyle is unavailable as well. They obviously have no faith in Bruney and/or Britton.

But Rivera can pitch assuming they figure out a way to get to the ninth with a lead.

UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: It’s all well and good that the Yankees plucked Edwar Ramirez out of an indy league and got a few good innings out of him this season. But I don’t see how he could survive an entire season as a set-up man with his one pitch being a change-up. You might trick guys once or twice but it’s never going to last.

UPDATE, 5:52 p.m.: Received this e-mail from Ashley, a blog reader sitting in section 301. She writes: “Just wanted to let you know how much I hate the wave.” We’re with you Ashley.

Meanwhile Melky Cabrera is 0 for 4 today and 3 for his last 42. Memo to the Melkman: This is not a good time to give Torre the idea of starting Damon in center and Giambi as the DH in Game 1.

UPDATE, 5:58 p.m.: That would be a huge hit for the Melkman.

UPDATE, 5:59 p.m.: Also, it would seem Joe Torre is a genius as he pinch ran for Mientkiewicz at second base right before a soft single to left.

Krazy Kyle now warming. Yikes.

UPDATE, 6:07 p.m.: 46 at-bats since Alex last homered. He’s about due, don’t you think?

UPDATE, 6:08 p.m.: Nah, just another huge RBI. So long Donnie Baseball, look out Joe D.

This is quite a game as each team’s bullpen tries to stink less.

UPDATE, 6:19 p.m.: I for one am shocked – shocked! – that Krazy Kyle is botching up this inning. They should keep him off the playoff roster just to assure Torre doesn’t use him.

UPDATE, 6:25 p.m.: The fans here at the Stadium chant “MVP” whenever A-Rod comes to plate. They need to chant “DFA” whenever Farnsworth pitches so Brian Cashman gets the idea.

Now Kei Igawa is coming in and the fans are booing before he even gets to the mound.

Now I’m convinced the Yankees will win. The K-Man will get an out, the Yankees will score twice in the eighth then Mo will wrap it up. 11-10, piece of cake.

UPDATE, 6:33 p.m.: See, Igawa got an out. OK, so 12-11. They just need to get A-Rod up again.

UPDATE, 6:48 p.m.: This is either the best game of the season or the worst, I’m not sure.

Meanwhile, Melky was given a single on that last play.

Thank God, Mo is pitching. If Igawa stayed in I might have run out there and tackled him.

UPDATE, 7:04 p.m.: Hey, Toronto didn’t score. What a concept.

I’m supposed to be objective and I’d like to think I am. But, please, somebody win this game right now.

Meanwhile, seriously, you have to admire Toronto. They beat Boston three straight, beat the Yankees last night in 14 and they’re playing this game hard as heck. I give them a lot of credit.

UPDATE, 7:10 p.m.: What a game by A-Rod, 4 for 5 with a walk and three RBI. Now somebody needs to drive him in.

UPDATE, 7:28 p.m.: Wow, what a throw by Robbie Cano and a nice play by Posada. After all that, now somebody has to figure out a way to win the game.

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1,083 Responses to “Game 154: Blue Jays at Yankees”

  1. Chris

    Hey Pete, is there a link to that ESPN thing that you did the other day? I missed it, i really wanted to see it…

  2. Kill-Schill(ing)

    I can’t fathom why Joe would place a hitter who currently is 3 for 38 over his last forty at-bats in the lead-off spot.

  3. Kill-Schill(ing)

    Pete-Abe,

    Can you give us an update on Roger’s health as soon as you have one?

  4. Leonardo

    Aside from not being able to pinch hit for Molina last night, Melky’s at bat in the 9th was the key. The Yankees had them on the ropes, and Melky failed. I really hope that he can turn it around, no better time than today to start.

  5. SJ44

    With Damon out today, who would you suggest they have leadoff?

    You don’t change the entire lineup for one guy. Perhaps hitting leadoff gets Melky going again.

    Since he has started to play full-time, Melky has leadoff in the games in which Damon didn’t play. Its not a big deal.

  6. Leonardo

    Melky in the leadoff spot for his career: Avg: 292, OBP: 377, RBI: 23, SLG: .411, BB: 25…..respectable

  7. Sherri

    Pete – any stats on when Melky has batted leadoff?

  8. Sherri

    never mind :) Thanks, Leonardo!

  9. Joe from Long Island

    Disappointing game last night, just couldn’t get that one hit. I didn’t think Bruney’s pitch was that bad, give Zaun credit, as well as Halladay.

    Maybe hitting leadoff will make Melky be more selective, though “leadoff” is a bit of a misnomer. It will come down to who pitches better, as it frequently does.

  10. Kill-Schill(ing)

    Jeter.

    Why give Melky an extra at-bat, if it isn’t necessary? Slot him in the ninth spot and he hits in front of Jeter anyway after the first time through the rotation, but receives one less at-bat.

    I realize Joe has been hitting Melky in the lead-off spot when Damon doesn’t play. But that’s precisely my point. Joe gets fixated with a particular order and then shows reluctance to alter it when conditions warrant.

    Marcum is the weakest of the four pitchers the Yankees face this weekend. They have to beat him. In fact, I was disappointed to see Joe rest Damon today and not tomorrow against McGowan or Monday against Burnett.

  11. mike

    torre shoud try putting abreu leadoff….he was a great leadoff guy his whole career

  12. J-Dawg--Veintisiete en '07

    Melky’s due to break out of the slump and leading off could add some fuel to the fire for him. It’s not a crime to have to rest Damon. Damon’s probably seeing action tomorrow and definitely on Monday against Burnett. Damon socked a homer off of Burnett in last Thursday’s game.

  13. Leonardo

    Joe from LI, you’re right, obviously numbers number tell the whole story but they’re still fun to look at:

    Shaun Marcum vs NYY this year: 3 G, 6.06 ERA, 16.1 IP, 15 H, 11 R, 11 ER

    NYY stats vs Marcum: .250 Avg (15/60), 2 HR, .348 OBP, .400 SLG

    Marcums ERA in day games: 4.80, 50.2 IP, 13 HR, 27 ER

    left field in yankee stadium: still 314 ft

  14. SJ44

    Why move Jeter out of the #2 spot now that he is hitting again?

    He is also playing on one leg. Meaning, he isn’t going to be stealing bases. That makes him batting leadoff an actual detriment to the team.

    If Melky gets on, Jeter is the best hit and run guy on the team. He can also allow Melky to steal a base and Jeter advances runners better than anybody on the team.

    He is the perfect #2 hitter for that reason.

    If you move Jeter, who bats second? Again, you are changing the entire lineup over one guy. It makes no sense.

    Arod was 2-33 until last night. You don’t see them moving him out of the cleanup spot.

    Torre is set on his batting orders for a reason. Its working.

    They have the best record in baseball the last 3 months. They have won 11 of 14 and are 13-5 in September.

    The lineup isn’t an issue. Every team has offensive lulls. The Yankees just have fewer than others.

  15. mike

    i think we should go after barry bonds at the end of the season…..it would be great!!, this way we can reunite king kong and godzilla

  16. Skeeter

    The next few games are must-win for the Yankees. By the end of Monday, they could be tied with the Red Sox.

  17. TimH

    Pete, Did Bowa send Posada from third last evening on the pop-up that resulted in an inning ending third out, Posada was out by at least ten feet, seemed the odds were not our favor sending Posada, Jackie Robinson possibly, I wonder if he went on his own.

  18. Denise G

    Pete,

    is Torre still gunning for the Division? I thought that, in my manager hat, seems like we are in the playoffs – so why don’t we just rest our guys, rotate them in and out of the lineup?

  19. Leonardo

    I had a melky wristband (you know the ones they have at the stadium now with the players number and name) that I lost last week….in Boston, on Friday night. And I know its retarded, but I keep kicking myself in the ass. Since then:.095 AVG (2/21), .200 OBP .095 SLG…blame me not melky. love this guy.

  20. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Excellent.

    You guys are the best!

  21. JJNJ

    Yahoo has Roger listed as Monday’s starter. Hopefully that’ll hold true.

  22. TKinDC

    I think Joe put Melky in the lead-off spot to let him see better pitches and hopefully start going again. He hasn’t done anything of note (except the slide into first) for a long time so shaking things up is worth a try IMHO.

    Not a good idea to shake up the 2-3-4-5 so I like the approach.

    I know this isn’t exactly controversial, but FARNSY is driving me nuts with these phantom maladies. How is he hurting himself when he isn’t even making any appearances, I thought he was a fitness freak! Disgusting.

  23. Phil - 27 in '07

    “Joe gets fixated with a particular order and then shows reluctance to alter it when conditions warrant.”

    Did you forget last year’s playoffs when A-Rod batted 8th? Or earlier in the year when he dropped Abreu to 7th and 8th.
    Or in the past when he dropped O’Neill and Tino down?
    Or when he jumped A-Rod up to 2nd to get him going?
    Or when he put Matsui in the cleanup spot when he was really hot last year?

    I hope the post about getting Bonds was a joke.

  24. we miss paulie

    Are the Kennedy/Clemens scratches just Joe lining up the rotation for the playoffs?

  25. Leonardo

    Look, I think that Faramaduke (taken from another awesome blog http://bronxbanter.baseballtoaster.com/) is just a spineless player. I still don’t condone the boos, because I just think booing is wrong. But this “sore shoulder” thing its bull. He’s trying to stick it to Torre, because he feels disrespected. If he really wants to pitch he should have been available last night, when we needed him. Everyone knew once Bruney came in, the game was over.

  26. Bring back O'Neill

    I agree – who cares that Damon is out. With the lineup and depth that the Yankees possess there a plenty of options at lead-off and Melky is fine in that position. Maybe they shold put clemens in the lead-off spot..

  27. Leonardo

    I just want to win today. Damon’s been struggling lately too, so its not like its a huge hit to the lineup. He’s been strugglin lately too (3/22). His body’s gotten older this year, and he needs the rest. Plus its about pitching. Big big games for Hughes, and his playoff hopes.

  28. Denise G

    I knew it was over when Bruney came in…i figured they just wanted it to end one way or another and go home b/c they had a 1:00 game!

  29. Leonardo

    I really need to re-read, apologies.

  30. Leonardo

    If the Yankees even consider getting Bonds, I’m going to be so pist. I hate him, he’s a dispicable player. While normally I don’t give a crap what other people think about the Yankees, but just think about, think about it for one second, all the crap that we would have to deal with.

    Then again, I really hope the red sox dont get him. He’s still a sick hitter, and he would bring down Fenway. Bonds, Ortiz, Manny (assuming they keep the latter). Not cool.

  31. we miss paulie

    Bonds has too much baggage with him Great hitter, but a PR night mare. He’s not coming to NY, no way.

  32. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    No way Bonds comes to New York.

    I mean, maybe if Steve Phillips was our GM, but (thank G-d) he’s not.

    Not going to happen.

  33. Sherri

    No bonds…

    Denise – I agree. When Bruney entered the game, I figured it was over.

    BUT – TODAY is a new day!!! GO YANKEES!!!

  34. Phil - 27 in '07

    I wonder how heavily Bruney’s game last night weighs into the postgame roster decision. Couple last night with his “anger” issues and chirping at the umpire and generaly pitching…

  35. Sherri

    I can’t stand Steve Phillips or Bonds. We will never see either one in pinstripes, thankfully.

  36. Phil - 27 in '07

    edit…postseason roster decision.

  37. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    So guys:

    What’s the over/under on the Louisville/Syracuse football game?

    I’ve heard 60 points…

  38. Clubhouse Chairs

    We were all shaking last night when Bruney came back in the clubhouse!

  39. Stuart

    bonds will never play for the yanks even though I assume many of our knowledgable brethren would love having him. he fits right in to there plan, he is old, overpaid, cannot move, and gets hurt all the time.. Just what these brain surgeons want..

    Yeah change the whole lineup becuase of Melky, smart move Epstein Jr.

    We need a Clemens status please??

    Look Kennedy gets slight injury and it screws up the whole plan to give the guys a extra day or 2 of rest….

    we need a split this weekend eith the jays

  40. Leonardo

    Then again if Steve Phillips was our GM we’d have the Blue Jays Joe Kennedy, and not our very own Ian.

    see the zambrano trade.

  41. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    It’s raining in north Jersey.

    BAH I SAY! BAH!

  42. Phil - 27 in '07

    I was angry at Posada / Bowa last night for tagging up and getting thrown out on the pop foul out. But after watching the replay on YES, I can understand what they were thinking.

    Had Overbay made the catch, he would have had to make a 180 pivot and fire a strike after leaning into the stands and regaining his balance. There was also a strong chance that the exertion of the catch makes them forget about the runner at third. Upon further review, I don’t think it was a bad play.

  43. Jeter's future wife

    MLB Extra Innings doesn’t have the game on today…what’s a girl to do?

  44. Phil - 27 in '07

    Torre just said Clemens could have pitched today, but wanted to be extra cautious.

  45. IrishCarBomb

    steve phillips didn’t make the kazmir for zambarno deal.

  46. Clubhouse Chairs

    JFW – Sopcast

  47. Joe from Long Island

    I’ve been upset with Bruney this year, as well, but he did do a great job at the end of last season, and most recently as that game against Boston where we came back in the 8th (4 big outs, and Torre gave him the lineup card); so let’s not totally bury the guy.

    Like everyone else, I do not want Bonds on the team next year. If nothing else, there’s no room for him. Boston might make a grab for him, though they’ve committed a lot of $ this year with Dicey, Drew and Lugo (all not worth the investment to this point). I know the Sox make a lot of money, but apparently John Henry is going through a nasty divorce, as well as a 50% drop in the value of his hedge fund, so he may be a little tight with the cash to pay Barry. Oakland, right across the Bay, might be the best fit for him. Although that would mean deposing Jack Cust, at a lot more salary. But where Barry Bonds winds up – as long as it’s not the Yankees – is the least of my worries.

  48. Sherri

    You can watch the game on sopcast – do you know about that?

  49. Jeter's future wife

    MLB TV?

  50. TKinDC

    Stuart:

    “he fits right in to there plan, he is old, overpaid, cannot move, and gets hurt all the time.. Just what these brain surgeons want..”

    That is so 2003 :)

    Cashman is fortunate that this year didn’t blowup on him and that the youth movement can continue with him at the helm rather than under the bus.

    Steve Philips and Barry Bonds belong together on some hellish baseball island.

  51. Jeter's future wife

    no, what is that? (sopcast)

  52. Phil - 27 in '07

    Torre just said Farnsworth is doubtful for today.

  53. Kill-Schill(ing)

    Most of those example you cite Phil were in the post-season where Joe has shown greater flexibility with the order, to his credit. In fact, in battting A-Rod 8th, he proved himself downright reckless with the batting order. (But then again the flip-side of stubborn rigidity is reckless panic.)

    My two complaints however with Joe’s lineup decision still remain:

    1) He waits for too long to alter his order to accomodate changed conditions. Often waiting, as this year, with Abreu, for weeks until he dropped him in the order. More recently, he has stuck with Matsui in the 5 or 6 hole, even though, he’s been mired in a wretched slump– home-run against Burres notwithstanding– and probably should have been switched with Posada and/or Giambi in the order, by now.

    2) He’s overly enamored with alternating lefties and righties. This explains why he prefers to bat Matsui before Posada rather than vice-versa, though with the way Posada has hit this year he should never bat below 5th in the order.

    3) Melky has yet to demonstrate the plate discipline and/or propensity to walk a lead-off batter requires. As a lead-off hitter, Melky is batting .260 with a .309 OBA and 8, yes eight, BB’s:http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_player_splits.jsp?c_id=mlb&playerID=466320&sitSplit1=All&statType=1&statSet=1&splitSet=2

  54. Sherri

    download software at: http://www.sopcast.org

    view schedule at: http://www.myp2p.eu/MLB.htm

  55. Leonardo

    Phil, to add to your point, I think it was still Stairs out there at that point, trying to make the catch by the tarp. He is considerably less capable as a first basemen.

  56. Chris

    where on sopcast can u watch it?

  57. Stuart

    soem truths.. Arod cannot cathc pop flys, he is scared of the stands..

    Posada is a moron baserunner. The guy has been thrown out trying to take the extra base minimum 10 times this yr.

    Farnsworth not only stinks which would be bad enough but is a pansy with all his rules and maladies.

    the pen today is a joke for a change. Mariano threw very few pitched last night but the problem with VIz is he is pretty good but he throws alot of pitches because he nibbles.

    they need to score mucho runs today..The yanks have scored over 200 more runs then Toronto so far this yr..

    we need runs today, PLEASE.

  58. Kill-Schill(ing)

    Thanks for the update on Clemens, Phil. How did you get it so early? Do they give updates on players’ health on that tedious batting practice show? Thus far, I’ve been unable to watch it. Too tedious. I keep hoping Kim Jones will waltz out in a tight bikini one day during the BP show to keep my attention.

  59. Phil - 27 in '07

    Killer: I’m not arguing in favor of Melky leading off. Not at all.

    However, there are numerous instances of Torre making lineup changes during the season, not just in the postseason. I think Torre doesn’t make the panic moves that fans often want made (many of us on this board).

    During the season:
    -A-Rod hitting second.
    -O’Neill dropped to 6th and 7th.
    -Jeter being moved around wherever he is needed: 1st, 2nd, 3rd.
    -Knoblauch dropped out of the leadoff spot.
    -Giambi dropped out of the 3rd / 4th spots.

    And I can recite countless others. He doesn’t often make panic moves, but generally (not always) does it over time to not affect the hitters’ confidence.

  60. Sherri

    sopcast channel 25568

  61. Phil - 27 in '07

    During the BP show, when they don’t have any filler, they air some of Torre’s pregame press conference/meeting.

  62. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    So it’s raining now, but looking at the radar, we should be good for a game…but don’t be surprised if the game doesn’t actually start till later.

    Of course, I’m not an umpire, so what do I know.

    And holy mother…SYRACUSE LEADS LOUISVILLE!

    It won’t last, but for now it’s fun!

  63. Phil - 27 in '07

    I didn’t know Syracuse still had a football team? :)

  64. Jim PA

    I don’t know about Clemens. He says he’ll be fine by Monday, but hammies are scary business, especially for us old guys.

  65. Leonardo

    wow, michael kay is bruuutal right now. call me heartless.

  66. E-ROC

    I can’t wait to see Hughes in action. He has gotten stronger in his last few outings. Maybe something magical will happen in the Bronx. Is Shelley still hurting? Can he get some starts?

  67. Sherri

    From earlier today:
    The D train September 22nd, 2007 at 10:18 am
    Sherri –
    Steps have been taken with the bullpen/warmup routine of Phil Hughes to try and correct his early inning woes. We’ll see how the adjustment pans out and hopefully it makes a difference.

  68. Phil - 27 in '07

    From Torre:

    Farnsworth, Chamberlain, Vizcaino are out for today.

    However, Joba can pitch back to back in the playoffs as the rules can be adjusted.

  69. Leonardo

    Those steps being taken with Hughes, brought back a name that I hate to hear: Kevin Brown. Apparantly they were thinking of having Hughes throw a simulated first inning in the bullpen, to maybe ease his start of the game jitters. They used to do the same thing with Kevin Brown. Eww.

  70. Joe from Long Island

    Brown had problems other than the first inning blues.

  71. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    The thing to remember though, is that before he joined the Yankees, Kevin Brown was kinda sorta a good pitcher!

  72. -. . --. .- - .. ...- .. - -.-- .-. ..- .-.. . ...

    Let’s hope Phil gives up less than 3 runs in the first few innings.

  73. Ava

    It’s pouring here. Wonder if there will be a delay.

  74. Leonardo

    Rebecca, I understand what you’re saying. But all I need to remember is 2004, and a certain pitcher punching a wall. I HATE HIM.

  75. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Ava: I live northwest of the City, it was raining here for a bit but it’s tapered off and the sun’s beginning to poke through.

    We should be fine.

    Leonardo: I try not to think about that!

  76. Kill-Schill(ing)

    What thus far has amazed me is how Hughes has managed to be so effective with what amounts to two pitches: (i) a fastball that rarely exceeds 92mph and (ii) a very slow 76mph curve?

    Is it the movement or explosiveness of Hughes’ fastball that makes it so lethal? Or is it his command and location? Compare it to Joba’s stuff and you wonder how Hughes has been so successful.

    If Hughes can perfect that third pitch– I wonder whether a change up, given the slow speed of his curve ball, would enhance his repertoire as much as a better slider would– he could evolve into the staff’s ace one day.

    I wonder too whether when he pitches for a full season whether his velocity won’t increase. Evidently, minor league scouts often clocked his fastball around 94mph rather than the 90-91 it has been this year.

  77. Leonardo

    I was in my second year of college in the middle of Worcester,MA. I am officially scarred for life. That said while the forecast predictions are normally shady I have a good feeling about today.

    I am a little worried about how any sort of delay might affect Hughes.

  78. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Well, they’re not going to call the game off cos there isn’t good time to make it up.

    Let’s just hope the delay doesn’t last too long.

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  79. Ava

    Oh good. I live in the city and I was having breakfast outside when it just began pouring, but you’re right. It does seem to be calming down now.

  80. Joe

    I’m proposing my own version of the Joba rules to my boss on Monday. You know, I don’t work back to back days and obviously two days off if I put in extra time in one day. It sounds fantastic in my head so it should work.

  81. Leonardo

    Kill (schill), while I’m impressed with his ability to pitch with two pitches, its really only working for a little more than 5 innings, at an almost 5 ERA clip. His curve, like you said is very slow. And because of a large lack of bite, when he misses its smack in the middle of the plate. I don’t know how I feel about that, other than there’s very little room for error with it.

    That said he’s 21 years old, which is amazing on so many levels. He will learn to control it, I hope. Right now though I can’t see him as a number 1. However, #62 might take the cake on that.

  82. Jeff NJ

    You can play in this type of rain, this will not result in a rainout. Can we talk about postseason rotation? I was assuming Wang would pitch game one, but there is some rumors that they would hold Wang for game 3 at home because he has a better record in the Bronx. I personally think Wang in game 1 would be better, than you could use him twice. Wang, Pettitte, Clemens, Mussina if necessary.

  83. Brandon

    well good afternoon my people :D

    young phenom Philip Hughes pitches today, this rain is also lightning up :)

    *optimism + squirrel lets go Yanks !*

  84. PB in DC

    I think it depends on who they play in the first round, Jeff NJ.

    I’d feel a bit uneasy about holding Wang back until game 3, personally.

    The stats do say he is clearly better at home though.

    Imagine matchups in games 1 & 2 of: CC Sabathia (cy young winner, IMO) vs Pettitte and Fausto Carmona vs Clemens.

    I don’t like either of those matchups for the Yanks.

  85. Paul

    Ava: it’s 1 oclock and you call it breakfast??? lol!

  86. Leonardo

    I like Pettitte, Clemens, Wang, Mussina. Pettite has more experience pitching in big games than Wang, and he’s been just as good if not better in the second half of the season. And game 1 is huge.

    Wang’s home ERA is 2.75, while on the road its 5.05, where he’s allowed 12 more ER. There are more pressing numbers to look at, but that disparity speaks volumes to me.

    Saving him for a game 3 at home has two advantage: 1) in a potental 2-0 hole you have your best pitcher trying to stop the bleeding, 2) In another other scenaro (up 2-0 or 1-1) you have your best pitcher ready to close it out, continue momemtum, or stop the other teams.

    Torre has always stresed the importance of game 3, which is why I think he might want Pettitte, whom he’s trusted forever there. I think that would be wrong, but what do I know.

  87. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    You forget, we BEAT Carmona.

  88. Brandon

    Ava must have had a long night like me :D

  89. 2Yankees143 - - 27 in '07

    For Derek, GO BLUE!

  90. Leonardo

    Yanks swept the season series.

    Carmona’s splits vs Yanks: http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2007

    Sabathia’s splis vs Yanks: Yanks haven’t faced him = NOT GOOD = season series sweept not as impressive, because he is gross, in the awesome way.

  91. Joe from Long Island

    Kill-Schill – Interesting analysis of Hughes. It matches what I’ve read over the year. He does need that third pitch, and this is why they ideally wanted him at AAA for longer than circumstances allowed. He should continue to improve. As far as velocity of his fastball, I think his leg injuries are still having some effect. He will need the off-season for that to completely heal.

  92. Jeter's future wife

    thanks Sherri!

    whats happening?

  93. Kill-Schill(ing)

    what’s the word on the length of the delay? Anyone estimate when they expect to start?

  94. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    http://www.weather.com/weather.....=whatwhere

    Radar.

    Storm’s moving north and east, and there’s nothing behind it.

    I’m no meterologist, but I *think* this game will start by 3…

  95. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    If you go to ‘weather.com’ and type in 10012 you’ll get a radar.

    Looks like it should clear in a little bit.

  96. DurhamYankee

    After I have downloaded sopcast what do I do? I log in but dont know how to find the game

  97. PB in DC

    I’m not saying Carmona is unbeatable, Rebecca, I’m saying I don’t like either of those matchups. I especially don’t like throwing Clemens in game 2. He is also much better at the Stadium. I’d like the idea of having Wang in game 2 and available for game 5 if nec.

  98. Sherri

    MLB Schedule for sopcast:
    view schedule at: http://www.myp2p.eu/MLB.htm

    However, the channel it’s showing (25568) is not currently working, but it may start up once the game starts up.

  99. Fred

    this blog and it’s steward are the best.. quick format question, if comments be listed in reverse time order, i.e., most recent first?? puts one right into the action, and one can “drill down” as compared to having to scroll down and “read up”. i think wordpress has this functionality, but use wordpress as a content manager on my blogs, and have no experience managing comments.

    perhaps the good ship farnsworth is pulling into port pavano. he can’t be happy. we can’t rely on him. keeping him going, and on the hook, is a lose-lose. maybe the shoulder thing will allow for an mri, and no one passes an mri, thus a bit of wordsmithing can allow everyone to save face and take him off the post season roster… he needs a small market, two saves a week, etc… this town and this team is a terrible match. we’ve all been there. this said with compassion.

    as bad a fit as is farnsworth, i suggest ohlendorf is right. how’s about we rev him up?? perhaps he wasn’t brought in last night, in what was at best a 50/50 blow-up loss and confidence hit, because they plan to get him ready this week, and build on success. any thoughts?

    was hard to swallow the kennedy in-law caterwauling about the wedding. pretty soon we’ll have donna hanover doing pregame ceremony readings from the monologues.

    till next, over and out. this blog rocks.

  100. Twenty-Three Grannies

    Rebecca – I think the ORANGE are actually WINNING 21-7 late in the 2nd. I know, they’ll still probably blow it, but you don’t think “winning big games” with the Syracuse Orange much anymore.

  101. Larry

    John Turturo’s best role in a film was obviously as Jesus “the Jesus” Quintana in “The Big Lebowski”. Any argument against this is merely a farse.

  102. Genesis 3.1

    Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made.

  103. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Okay, anyone mind explaining how Syracuse is up 21-7 on Louisville? My friends and I are all speechless.

    The GOOD sort of speechless!

  104. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Rain has completley stopped in dear old Northwest Bergen County.

    Shouldn’t be too much longer now.

  105. dontfirecash

    Hughes threw his changeup pretty well in his last start against Baltimore. He doesn’t need to throw it that often, but he certainly needs to be able to throw it for a strike.

  106. Brandon

    The Cuse’ is winning !!!! maybe my Irish have a chance vs Michigan :(

  107. E-ROC

    Can we please get the game started? I’m tired of watching college football!!

  108. Twenty-Three Grannies

    BuffaloHead – Yeah I mean, the man just had polio. It’s like the flu, a walk in the park. I mean, the man’s faking it, he doesn’t need that wheelchair, and those rotten teeth are from smoking crack.

    Right?

  109. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Don’t worry guys, they should start the game soon!

  110. Brandon

    Buffalohead, leave Mr. Joba alone

  111. Fred

    with all due respect, harlan chamberlain probably has no idea he’s on cameral all the time. the tv guys are exploiting his disability. have a little compassion, dude. in the scheme of life and men, he’s a hero, a man among men.

  112. PB in DC

    Quick survey: On a scale of 1 to 10, w/ 10 being most important to you, how important is winning the division to you guys?

    Personally, I’m in the camp that the division would be nice, but it doesn’t matter when the playoffs start.

    So I say it is a 4.

  113. Phil - 27 in '07

    Folks – do not feed the trolls. Let Pete block them.

  114. li

    What happened to the Ultimate Banter link?

  115. Chicago Dave

    The idea of Hughes scrambling around a wet infield to grab soft grounders scares me a bit. I have visions of him slipping and tweaking his hammy again…

    Still, hopefully he doesn’t get injured and ends up having a good start. We really could use the boost after last night!

  116. Sherri

    5 – would like the division (they are the Yankees), but will be okay with the wildcard, too. Main thing – the playoffs for the ultimate goal – # 27!!!!

  117. Twenty-Three Grannies

    Sherri – I’m trying this SopCast thing for the first time. It’s also not working for me, but it might be that I’m a newbie at this and I don’t have it set right. Let me know if it comes back on for you so I know it’s not on my end.

  118. Chicago Dave

    Yanks need to take the next three straight from Toronto if they still want the division. Personally, I’d rather see them rest guys and try to get thing completely set up for the playoffs (as the wild card).

  119. DCJim

    Did I hear correctly that Joel Sherman will be in the broadcast booth with John Sterling today? Sooz W is out observing the Jewish holiday.

  120. Sherri

    No, I looked on the forum for sopcast and I think it’s just because we’re in a rain delay. It shows it will be broadcast on 25568 and AFAIK, it will come up once the game starts.

  121. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    I don’t care what the Yanks do as long as it results in #27!

  122. Chicago Dave

    Twenty-Three – SopCast is spotty at times. It doesn’t always work (in my own experience)…

  123. E-ROC

    7–Our pitching sucks on the road. I think we should go for it. We’re only 21/2 back right now. Why not? We can still rest some guys and give the rotation an extra day of rest. If not, we still have the WC.

  124. Twenty-Three Grannies

    Sherri – Thanks. I am now getting the Pirates-Cubs game through VLC, so I can’t be that bad at this.

  125. thenextandykosco

    Pete:
    Last night you indicated that Sanchez was with the Yankees for some workouts. Any news on the whereabouts of Rasner?

  126. IF

    Gotta love Jackson Browne.

  127. PB in DC

    freakin’ mlb.com says the game is blacked out?!?

    what the heck? They’re not playing the orioles, why can’t they stream the game??

  128. Chicago Dave

    Yeah, what the heck ever happened to Rasner…The forgotten man!

  129. YankeeJosh

    Rebecca,

    it’s the power of the squirrel. Spreading to Syracuse.

  130. gayle

    If the game doesnt start til the Fox window 3:55 lets say can YES still broadcast?? Farnsworth is very frustrating on so many levels.

  131. Chicago Dave

    gayle – The question is, will Farnsworth still be here next year? I, for one, think Cashman should go above-and-beyond to get rid of him, but stranger things have happened!

  132. Ellen

    Rebecca – still raining in southern Rockland, but barely

  133. Chris from MI

    What’s Yanks record in rain delayed games?

  134. Phil - 27 in '07

    Still raining in Jersey City.

  135. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Hmmm…I don’t think the Yankees’ record in rain delayed games is necessarily that good, but 7.18.99 was a rain delay.

    You never know. Anyway, it’s not like this game is starting at 11 PM!

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  136. Dave

    I love how melky is mired in a horrific slump and should be benched today. What does Torre do? He bats him lead off. He was 0 for 5 last nite and is 3 for his last 38. Why in Gods name is he batting leadoff? Torre is just a puzzle sometimes. If this actually works for him, ill bite my tongue. Damon should be playing – hes not forty yrs old. He cant play a day game after a nite game any more. Absolutely retarded. LETS GO YANKS!

  137. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Andrea says tarp coming off!

  138. Phil - 27 in '07

    I thought we agreed the use of the term “retarded” was one we were going to avoid on this blog?

  139. Sherri

    Thanks to Andrea!! GO YANKEES!!!!

  140. Keith

    The Yankee Tavern, Stan’s, et al must be doing a brisk business at this point ….

  141. Chicago Dave

    Well, Alex should get a rest too, and probably Posada as well…But maybe they’re all pleading with Joe to stay in the lineup…Who knows?

  142. Dave

    SORRY NOT RETARDED -lets just say extremely stupid.

  143. Phil - 27 in '07

    Why shouldn’t Damon get a day off? And Melky maybe gets a better pitch to hit with Jeter behind him as opposed to Damon? And maybe Melky hits his way out of his mini-slump?

    Posada is the one I worry about. Day after a lllooonnnggg night game.

  144. Sherri

    According to PETE – game starting at 2:30.

  145. Dave

    they just had thursday off – we have a shot to win the division – why do they need another day of rest when they didnt play two days ago? Melky needs to come out of the lineup for a day or two and get his act together- we cant afford to have a centerfielder with absolutely no power and an OBP under 330. Thas prolly one of the worst in the league

  146. Chicago Dave

    Phil – Yes, sometimes I wonder why exactly we got Molina? I thought it was so we’d have a quality #2 catcher that would allow us to rest Posada more down the stretch…but I guess not!

  147. 13

    i agree The Big Lebowski was incredible. I think Turturro is one of the best actors around.

  148. Dave

    im not saying damon shuldnt get a day off but they had off on thurs. They treat damon like he is in his 40s and he is as young as jeter. He can play a day game after a night game. And melky is 3 for his last 38 with one run. He shuldnt be leading off! Thats all Im saying. I dont think he should be playing but certainly not batting leadoff. The guy has a 330 OBP right now – worst one the team and its not like hes a speedster. He shuld be batting ninth right now whether damon is playing or not.

  149. Phil - 27 in '07

    This is where we get hurt by not having a true 4th or 5th outfielder on the team that can back-up all three outfield positions. Without Melky, we don’t have a player who can play CF. Damon’s arm is too weak. Matsui did it when he was younger, but I think those days have passed.

    Throw in the fact that we don’t have a 3rd catcher, and our 25 and 40 man roster have an odd construction.

  150. randy l

    since we’re in this rain delay ,i have a question for the statistically adept out there who might be able to answer this. if the yankees wild card magic number is 5 (which i think it is), is the probability of the yankees losing the wild card about one in a thousand.
    i figured 9 things would have to go the tigers way( 5 yankee losses and 4 tiger wins ) and the two teams would be tied. then there’d be 4 games left each that would be 50/50. so 2 to the ninth power is 1024( i think that’s how that goes if wins and losses is a 50/50 thing).
    is that crazy or close to the odds?

  151. mel

    Don’t forget that Turturro saved that god-awful (is it pc to say god?) movie “Mr. Deeds”.

  152. Brandon

    alright tarp is off 2:30 baseball !!!

  153. DurhamYankee

    I wonder if MLB.tv will lift the blackout now that theres been a delay…PROBABLY NOT

  154. 13

    Last time I checked the only person’s name with rings as manager is Torre. I guess I must be a chump to not second-guess him all the time too. I must have been born with the wrong fan gene. To me rooting for the Yankees is enjoying the game, watching some outstanding play.

    I always thought baseball the ultimate thinking person’s sport, each player having remarkable skills and the manager and coaches working together to create a team. And of course this is just my opinion, perhaps not so humble (was accused of being an elitist fan whatever that is).

    Baseball is a thing of beauty and I enjoy it for what it is. I guess I just don’t get off on berating my manager. I do enjoy cussing out the umpire. Maybe I am just old school. Maybe I just do not think I know my players as well as Mr. Torre does or his coaches.

    Just one fan’s opinion who gets tired of the Torre haters and beraters.

  155. YankeeJosh

    Randy I,

    According to ESPN, the Yankees have a 99.4% chance of making the playoffs right now. Not sure exactly how they calculate it but it is the last column at this link:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/hfo

  156. Dave

    Phil – thas why we have 16 relief pitchers. I think damon can still play center – his arm is a liability but he has great range. He can play in center if need be. We really just cant keep throwing out a centerfielder every day that just never gets on base any more. He shuld be the one sitting today not damon. Hopefuly with all my complaining he’s go 4 for 4 with a homer now.

  157. 13

    ooops meant to say: Last time I checked the only person’s name(mentioned on this blog) with rings as manager is Torre.

  158. Dr. Acula

    I wonder how he _really_ hurt his neck.

    “I think I slept on it wrong,” Farnsworth said. “I don’t know if the pillow is too soft, but my neck’s tight.”

    I mean come on, that has to be a Yankee PR version of “I have no recollection, Senator.”

  159. Phil - 27 in '07

    Great range is an overstatement. Check out his range factor and zone ratings…you’ll find that he is in the average range for both.

  160. Dave

    13 – of every one praised every move torre made in every comment – this blog, sports talk radio and espn would start getting extremely boring. Im sorry but not every move Torre makes is brilliant and I dont think he is the only manager that won rings – there been hundreds of managers to win the world series. The fan has the right to discuss moves made by the staff whether they are good or bad. If you dont like reading and discussing torre and the other coach’s moves then stop reading the blog. It will just aggravate you.

  161. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    …The Syracuse game is on ESPN. I JUST found out. Wow.

    Oooh, just in time too!

  162. Mike B in the 'cuse

    Rebecca-Louisville just scored a t.d., but the cuse came back and scored one too. 28-14.

  163. Dave

    ok well average range still means he can play in center a couple of times this season and we will still be ok. Im more concerned with melky batting leadoff then damons play in center but i guess either could lose a game.

  164. Chicago Dave

    Dr. Acula – Farnsy will use any excuse (no matter how flimsy) not to pitch. Then again, with the way he pitches, do we really care?

  165. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    ach, I meant MSG but all the same!

    LET’S GO ORANGE!

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  166. mel

    si.com also gives the chances, but they source and link to baseball prospectus.

    http://baseballprospectus.com/.....s_odds.php

  167. Joe

    For those of you currently trying to get the game on sopcast, the channel doesn’t seem to be working. However, there is a Tawainese (I think that’s how you spell it) showing the game. You have to download a different program, but it it working fine. Plus listening to it in Tawainese is absolutely fantastic.

  168. Dr. Acula

    What’s “The Big Lebowski” about ?

    I can’t trust the coen bros, not after “raising arizona” and the gimicky “Fargo” (ie “lost in translation”).

  169. TKinDC

    Holy Spin Move by the Orange!

    GO YANKS – - – It would be great if Phil Phranchise could give them some length today, that’s a lot to ask from a rookie but that is where we are.

  170. YankeeJosh

    Wow, a “Let’s go Orange” chant in Louisville! Who would have ever thought?

  171. Luthien

    Joe- What program are you using?

  172. DurhamYankee

    Is anyone watching on Sopcast and is it working yet?

  173. BBB

    OK Farnsy really irks me sometimes. He hasn’t pitched in ages, and I bet his shoulder doesn’t hurt when it comes time to cash his paycheck and go buy a deer caller or whatever that contraption was.

    Anywho, just had to get that off my chest. LET’S GO YANKEES!

    P.S. Why isnt Damon playing today? Bad numbers vs Marcum or just a regularly scheduled day off?

  174. BBB

    Oh, and the Big Lebowski is the best movie EVER. Evereverever.

    Are we gonna split hairs here? :)

  175. Luthien

    Nvm. It’s called UUSEE

  176. Joe

    It’s a program called Uusee. It’s listed in the same area as the other Yankees vs. Toronto channel, down three or four lines to the right. They don’t seem to be actually calling the game, just translating the english. Living in San Francisco will not stop me from watching the Yankees games.

  177. Luthien

    U didn’t like Fargo??? One of my favorites.

  178. Sherri

    If you click on the “usee” link above where it shows the Yankee game is broadcasting on the Taiwan channel, it gives you a link to download the software:

    Here’s the download linK:

    Official Download: http://www.uusee.com/download/UUTV_Setup.exe

  179. Brandon

    cross you fingers for Philip Hughes guys if he pitches a gem this is the 3rd time Toronto has seen him so he is pitching for a playoff job right now.

  180. BBB

    Fargo is one of my favorites as well. I would be very hard-pressed to decide who I love more, the Coen Brothers, or Buscemi.

  181. Chicago Dave

    There are people that don’t like “The Big Lebowski,” including yours truly…

    By no means is it the “best movie ever.” Just sayin’…

  182. Luthien

    DurhamYankee – Sopcast channels don’t seem to be working right now. Try the other link that is on the far right under UUSEE: It’s a Taiwan channel tho. The program is some asian language too. But all ya gotta do is install it and then click the link and it will bring you to the channel

  183. YankeeJosh

    Does this mean Mo is our emergency third catcher?

  184. PB in DC

    Can somebody please tell me WHY Mlb.tv is blacking out this game???

  185. TKinDC

    Shelly can catch!

  186. DurhamYankee

    PB in DC if you have a premium account and are actually in DC then it shouldnt be blacked out

  187. Luthien

    PB in DC – FOX has rights to ALL games in Saturday. So if you arent in the Yankees area you will see something else most likely.

  188. YankeeJosh

    PB

    I believe MLB.tv and Extra Innings block out Saturday afternoon games. Only local cable or free channels can air 1 pm games.

  189. Sherri

    I downloaded USEEE (or however it’s spelled) and I’m getting the game there – still nothing on sopcast. It’s a trip listening to the Taiwanese announcers!!

  190. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  191. mel

    Here’s to a good 1st inning by Hughes!

  192. BBB

    Chi Dave: It’s all relative, but I am sure I love Lebowski enough for the both of us anyway! That movie is my zen.

    YankeeJosh: Joe said a while ago that if we needed an emergency catcher, Shelley would do it…without equipment, even. LOL

  193. Peter Rabbit

    Where’s Susan Waldman again? She sick?

  194. Luthien

    Angel Hernandez is behind HP again :(

  195. DurhamYankee

    Luthien, is it extra slow?

  196. Joe

    I just saw a Taiwanese kentucky fried chicken commercial. Fantastic.

  197. BBB

    BTW I hate that Angel Hernandez is the HP ump today. Cant they just…ya know…NOT let that reactionary fascist ump our games?

  198. Phil - 27 in '07

    Waldman is off observing the Jewish holiday.

  199. YankeeJosh

    BBB LOL. Yeah, I heard last night that Shelley or Betemit could go back there in a pinch. Somehow I think Mo could do it too, though obviously it will never happen.

  200. Luthien

    Anybody watching on UUSEE and following with Gameday? Am I the only one where UUSEE is WAY behind?

  201. PB in DC

    1. I am in DC.
    2. Fox is not showing a game as of yet.
    3. I don’t have the ‘premium’ account.

    DurhamYankee, are you SURE if I get the upgrade, I’ll be able to watch this game??

    Thanks, in advance.

  202. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    I am such a bad Jew.

    Ooops.

  203. mommy

    Why the hell is YES still showing Yanks on Deck????

  204. Joe

    Luthien,
    I’m not watching gameday, but I am watching Uusee, I would suggest you turn gameday off. Gameday is usually a bit ahead of any internet showing.

  205. 13

    Dave- thanks for your thoughts. Am not saying to praise him that’s for sure. I just don’t get how everything is Torre’s fault. but then again maybe you have fun doing that and who am I to negate that. Carry on.. just did not understand and now I do.

  206. TKinDC

    If Phil is really hitting 95 with his heater that is a really good sign. He was topping out around 91 a couple of weeks ago.

    Must be getting stronger after the injury earlier in the year.

  207. Brandon

    good 1st inning PHILIP PLEASE KEEP IT UP !!!

  208. Dan

    Hughes had a great first inning, nice and easy 1-2-3 inning

  209. Chicago Dave

    BBB – It’s cool…I know lots of people love the work of the Coen Bros. Personally, I dug Fargo, but their other stuff doesn’t thrill me.

    I’m much more of a Jim Jarmusch type of guy…

  210. Twenty-Three Grannies

    Does anyone know when the last time Syracuse beat a top 20 ranked team on the road?

  211. YankeeJosh

    Rebecca,

    Me too.

  212. DurhamYankee

    Im not 100% sure, it has worked for my father in law in the past

  213. Chicago Dave

    Yanks need some bats to come alive again (like Melky, Alex, etc.). No time like the present to start!!!

  214. TKinDC

    Isn’t Angel Hernandez the ump that tossed Joba in the Youkilis (sp?) thing?

    Maybe the moron can deliver a warning this time if he is feeling froggy.

  215. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    LET’S GO YANKEES! LET’S SCORE SOME RUNS!

  216. TV

    is Sopcast working for anyone. I cant get it to dial up the channel.

  217. Global Warming

    Melky has been absolutely terrible with the bat. It’s disgusting to watch!

  218. Vader

    I know it’s only one inning, but Hughes control looks really good, and if I’m correct that was his staple comming up.

  219. Sherri

    It was good to see Hughes have a good first inning. Whatever they did with him must have worked!! (for today, at least!)

  220. Dave

    Melky grounds out to second – SHOCKING. A leadoff hitter on the yanks cannot have an OBP of 330 -

  221. Brandon

    Philip has topped out at 93.5 mph according to gameday & his location has been very good on the outs

  222. TimH

    How nice, Yankee fans of all religions listening to today’s game benefit from the Jewish Holiday.

  223. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Not our inning, no worries. We’ll get to them!

    LET’S GO PHIL!

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  224. Twenty-Three Grannies

    I can’t navigate UUSee at all. I got it from the official download link from http://www.myp2p.eu/MLB.htm and then looked at that forum where they break down how to navigate UUSee, except whatever version I have looks completely different.

  225. Brandon

    Dave Melky is 23 yrs. old calm down it’s just inning # 1

  226. Dr. Acula

    The wood-chipper scene was cool, but “Fargo” didn’t have any car chases or explosions. I mean the greatest movie ever has to be “Die Hard III” – it gets extra credit for filmin in NYC and in yankee stadium.

  227. Luthien

    Twenty-Three Grannies – Ya, it looks like an updated version. I just clicked the link on the schedule page and it loaded automatically. Havent bothered trying to tinker with the interface

  228. GF

    I’m Guiseppe Franco.
    I’m not turning my TV on, for a team that doesn’t win!

  229. Dr. Acula

    greatest movie ever (runner up) “GI Jane” – bombs, bullets, and boobs ;)

  230. Twenty-Three Grannies

    Luthien – Don’t know HOW I missed that, thanks!

  231. randy l

    thank you mel and josh for the odds links.i’m feeling better now.

  232. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    Phil just got squeezed…DANG !

  233. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    C’mon Phil, you can do it!

    LET’S GO PHIL!

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  234. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    come on DP ~!!!

  235. YankeeJosh

    Randy I,

    Before yesterday’s game espn had the Yanks playoff odds at 99.8% So despite the bad day (Yanks lose, Tigers win and Sox win) our odds just dipped .4%.

  236. Ethan Foxx

    Melky’s in there because he’s the only one on the Yankees than can play center field adequately. As far as his bat, he’s league average and doesn’t get on base much. He should be batting at the bottom of the order in this lineup.

  237. Brandon

    YEH BABY GOOD DP PITCH !!

  238. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Syracuse now up 37-21, will be 38 if the X point is good.

    YAH PHIL!

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  239. TKinDC

    SWEET DP!!!

    Enough of the Melky bashing, we get it.

  240. 13

    Yes. DP’s are us!

  241. Da Bronx

    Michal Kay is a horrible announcer. “Phil Hughes gets an inning ending… (in a completely different voice) rally killing (back to normal voice) double play.”

    He tries way to hard to make everything dramatic. Melky could make a slightly above average catch in a 9-1 game and Kay will yell as if he just saved the game.

  242. 13

    Yes. DP exactly what we needed!

  243. Mike B in th e'cuse

    23 Grannies- I am almost positive it was 2004. They beat Boston College

  244. YankeeJosh

    As long as John Sterling is in the Yankees employ, Michael Kay will not be the worst announcer they have. That being said, I love his talk show, and he is a great source for team info but his play by play skills are bad. Any fly ball is a deep fly. I love when O’Neill starts ragging on him.

  245. tessa

    Dude, if you are unhappy with Kay, you should really try the Taiwanese feed. Makes just about as much sense as Mr. Kay…

  246. Sherri

    Oh my gosh – some of these Taiwan commercials are HILARIOUS!!

  247. Jeter's future wife

    turn on Fox now!!!!! McCarver interviews Torre

  248. Brandon

    Matsui is back I can tell by his swing :D

  249. mel

    Listening to Sterling. Who’s with him? Sterling got REALLY excited about that DP.

    “LINED DEEP, but foul” lol.

  250. TKinDC

    I think A-Rod should come out his lull today, he has been hitting the ball up the middle lately and to the warning track.

    Marcum wanted no piece of him.

    Go Godzilla!!!

  251. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Whoo! Let’s go Yankees!

  252. Joe M

    It’s only the 2nd inning an the announcers are being bashed if you don’t like them change the station get a life

  253. mel

    Matsui!

  254. Kill-Schill(ing)

    Matsui had a very good at-bat against Marcum. Let’s hope this signals his emergence from his slump.

  255. Brandon

    Georgy rest the bat

  256. Da Bronx

    Wow, this ump has a really small strike zone. Could be a long night…

  257. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    JIP JIP JORGE!

    GO SYRACUSE!

    GO YANKEES!

  258. Sherri

    Yes, less whining, please…MORE OPTIMISM!!! GO YANKEES!!

  259. YankeeJosh

    Posada didn’t try for a double. Progress!

  260. Brandon

    never mind :D

  261. mel

    Posada’s numbers against Mracum are astounding.

  262. TimH

    Melky has 14 assists,although 2 from left field, can’t remember who was last the last Yankee to give us that kind of an arm in the outfield. Melky is still a kid, we need to be patient, he does too many other things well.

  263. Kill-Schill(ing)

    come on, robbie, get this run home.

  264. Phil - 27 in '07

    Abreu has a better arm than Melky…the reason Melky has more assists is because they are more apt to run on a newbie who has yet to be tested over time.

  265. Dr. Acula

    Now THAT’S funny – ‘Zilla has a sense of humor.

  266. Kill-Schill(ing)

    this team need remedial base-running lessons. That’s the third run in two days they ran themselves out of.

  267. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Bases loaded, two out, exciting!

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  268. mel

    Joe M.,

    Not complaining. I find Sterling rather endearing, almost like a great-grandfather type.

    Now Kay, that’s a different story. j/k. He’s o.k. too. He was a real fashion plate other day.

  269. Da Bronx

    Posada just cost the Yankees a run by not going to third in that rundown. You HAVE to run to third when they’re chasing the player towards home plate. They aren’t going to throw to third and allow the run to score.

  270. Brandon

    meanwhile someone in the minor league must have showed Minky how to hit because he is hitting

  271. Dr. Acula

    Maybe Jorge can buy some legs during the offseason, cuz his treads are hitt’n the 50,000 mile mark.

  272. mel

    Fox running a special about Phil Rizzuto right now.

  273. Global Warming

    Oh boy that should of been 2 runs. Now Melky is up and things don’t look too good.

    Make me eat some crow Melky.

  274. Twenty-Three Grannies

    I would be careful about UUSee, on the forum page where you download it -

    http://85.92.128.155/~myp2p/fo.....hp?id=8970

    There’s a strange line:

    “***Note***
    It could give (with some anti-virus software) a warning of a threat, we think you can ignore it, but if you don’t feel comfortable, don’t install it then.”

    That sounds a little sketchy. I’m trying to use VideoLAN instead since it’s just streaming video, it might work without UUSee.

  275. Brandon

    P.S. Bobby Abreu’s arm is not faster than Melky, not a chance

  276. Kill-Schill(ing)

    You really think Abreu has a better arm than Melky? If it’s a stronger arm, I don’t know that it’s more accurate.

    And Abreu is perhaps my favorite Yankee.

    Come on, Melk, quality at-bat.

  277. mel

    Oops. Sorry. Running a segment on World Series. Of course, lots of Yankees footage.

  278. TKinDC

    Things don’t look good with the bases loaded? Jeesh, take some happy pills.

  279. Brandon

    MELKY :(

  280. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Okay, unlucky there, but still, we got one run!

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  281. Kill-Schill(ing)

    Another awful at-bat by Melky. Did he swing on 2-0? I could murder him sometimes.

  282. Woah

    Garbage Melky

  283. Global Warming

    Hey Melky didn’t swing at the first pitch, that’s progress.

    Makes the out anyway, oh well. At least the Yankees are on the board.

    They better fix Melkys bat because he’s in no mans land in that batters box.

  284. PB in DC

    melky! cmon man, that’s a hitter’s count…

  285. mel

    Did they give Melky the green light? I would have waited out Marcum, he was quickly digging his own grave there. That’s o.k. Melky, we still love you!

  286. Phil - 27 in '07

    I absolutely think Abreu has a stronger arm than Melky.

  287. Da Bronx

    Horrible execution by the Yankees. They only got the one run because of the walks they were given by Toronto. Between Matsui and Posada’s running errors which cost the Yankees at least 2 runs and Melky’s at bat to end the inning, that was embarrassing. How do you swing at ball 3 with the bases loaded?

    That is not how you win ballgames.

  288. Tucson Ken

    Things looking food for Hughes. Got thru the second without giving up a run. He always gets stronger from here on.
    Huhes will keep getting nothing but better each time out as he gets stronger & shakes off he rust from his layoff.

    What really shocks me is Edwar. In following the Yankees for over 50 years I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone with as Jekyl & Hyde performances as him, although not a large sample to go by, all in the the same outing! So far this year 18&2/3 Innings
    6 HOME RUNS
    29 STRIKEOUTS. SO dominant & so vulnerable almost very time out. No wonder he has bounced around. I just don’t trust him for the post season. No way we can afford a reliever who gives up a home run every three innings, no matter how many he strikes out!

    We need Hideki & A-Rod to get locked in again soon. If A-Rod goes into the post season cold, with all the extra pressure he will face I think he will be tormented by the last 2 years postseason demons & succomb again.

  289. BBB

    Awww, Melky.

    At least we made Marcum throw a decent amount of pitches though. Hopefully his struggles pick up right where they left off next inning.

    LET’S GO PHIL!!!

  290. TimH

    Abreu might have a stronger arm, but not as accurate, Melky finished second in assists with 11 in the MLB 2006 season when he did not play the whole season, this year leading with 14.

  291. Brandon

    Kill Schill I went to the stadium myself and witnessed this, Melky threw a ball 6 steps from the warning track and hit the screen in foul territory. Yesterday’s throw by Abreu is the best thrown I’ve seen in from him in some time.

  292. Twenty-Three Grannies

    Nevermind. Oh well, GO YANKS from GameCast!

  293. Global Warming

    “Things don’t look good with the bases loaded? Jeesh, take some happy pills.”

    You and Melky will need some of those after watching that AB!

  294. Dimitri - 27 in '07

    I’m more worried about Clemens than this game. We definitely need him in the playoffs.

  295. Da Bronx

    Melky should be batting 8th, and that’s only because Minky’s in this game.

  296. Joe M

    Mel
    I have listened to many announcers from many a teams an I will take these guys any day. Most are dull It would be more fun to watch grass grow than listen to say the White Sox guys

  297. Yankee Fan in Boston

    This is when I worry about the Yankees, to be honest. They have a pitcher who was reeling; just couldn’t throw strikes, and Melky goes to first on a 2-0 count. You gotta make the pitcher throw strikes, and I think that pitch was borderline itself. Wait it out, let the next guy take a stab, especially with the way Melky is slumping.

    A Yankees team that is firing on all cylinders ends Marcum’s day right there.

  298. Kill-Schill(ing)

    You think it’s more accurate, Phil? I’m not sure I do, even though I agree with you that Melky has more put-outs because runners challenge him more. That will continue untill he learns to refrain from reckless throws home that allow runners to advance to 3d. He still makes that mistake fairly often.

  299. TimH

    Posada definitely not the second coming of jackie Robinson on the bases.

  300. TimH

    Posada definitely not the second coming of jackie Robinson on the bases.

  301. Brandon

    Robi :(

  302. Da Bronx

    Wow, this team is falling apart. Cano didn’t even pick the ball up after it fell!

  303. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Okay, Robby, if Doug says I got it, it means he’s got it.

  304. Erick

    Do any of you guys know if they are showing the game on sopcast and which channel? I have it listed for VP1 but it’s offline, any other options?

    Thanks

  305. Erick

    Do any of you guys know if they are showing the game on sopcast and which channel? I have it listed for VP1 but it’s offline, any other options?

    Thanks

  306. Dimitri - 27 in '07

    Yeah! Good job by Hughes. Let’s go, Yankees!

  307. Da Bronx

    Yankee Fan In Boston, a Yankees team without Melky batting leadoff likely tacks on some runs there.

  308. Phil - 27 in '07

    Kill: I’m not sure about accuracy. Hard to say. I agree, Melky makes the high school mistake of airmailing the ball and letting the trail runner advance far too often.

    Tim: You can’t use assists as your benchmark. Guys don’t run on good arms. Ichiro, for example…otherwise Ichiro and others would rack up the assists from the OF.

  309. BBB

    Nice inning for Phil, not much help from Cano but he only had to throw one extra pitch cause of it…

  310. Dimitri - 27 in '07

    Does anybody know Hughes is pitching on how many days rest?

  311. mel

    Joe M.

    Great point. One of the espn baseball chatters this week was asked which broadcasters he really hates. He only mentioned one guy and that was the Hawk of the White Sox. Totally ragged on him and his homerism.

    But he did say he liked the Yes crew.

  312. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Phil is pitching on full rest.

  313. Global Warming

    “Does anybody know Hughes is pitching on how many days rest?”

    He’s pitching on normal rest.

  314. Joe M

    Hawk is awful

  315. Twenty-Three Grannies

    Erick – the SopCast links aren’t working, you need to use UUSee and the ESPN Taiwan link.

  316. Kill-Schill(ing)

    erick, don’t neglect to check the channels at the bottom of the page. Go methodically through VP1 through VP 18. Sometimes the channel changes and the site neglects to update it.

  317. Erick

    Thanks 23 Grannies, will try.

    I wanna see Hughes dealing.

  318. TimH

    phil, and what do you use as a benchmark? Ichiro doesn’t have the numbers because they no longer test his arm. Melky’s presence discourages adavancing runners too, but he is a young ballplayer and does not yet have the reputation he will.

  319. Scooter

    “Do any of you guys know if they are showing the game on sopcast and which channel? I have it listed for VP1 but it’s offline, any other options?”

    Yes there’s another option. You can watch it on UUSee. It’s 100% more reliable than Sopcast but it’s the ESPN Taiwan feed.

    At least you don’t have to listen to Michael Kay.

    This link has the schedules and links to download UUSee.
    http://www.myp2p.eu/MLB.htm

  320. Da Bronx

    And now Abreu can’t get the bunt down or advance the runner. This team is seriously lacking in fundamentals right now. They can not win playing like this in the playoffs.

  321. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Abreu not bunting is understandable, three hitters usually aren’t good bunters.

    A-Rod looks like he’s coming out of it.

  322. Da Bronx

    That’s a run Abreu just cost the Yankees.

  323. Phil - 27 in '07

    Tim: for defense…it is damn hard to quantify…if you figure out a correct and accurate way to do it, you’d be just as famous as Bill James and the Abstract…and Theo Epstein and all of the other GMs would pay you a lot of money.

    No one looks at the OF and says “better not run on Melky, he’s got a cannon.” He might get there, but no one is afraid to run on him right now and they test him.

  324. Kill-Schill(ing)

    so much for the A-Rod Haters’ theory that Alex was starting his autumn swoon.

  325. Erick

    Thanks Kill-Schill(ing), but today it seems none are working

  326. Chris from MI

    Move runners one base at a time is so painful to watch. Comon GET That Big Hit!

  327. Da Bronx

    Abreu’s missed bunt is only one of the many miscues the Yankees have made in this game and it’s only the 3rd inning.

  328. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Not our inning; no worries. We’re still up and it’s still early.

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  329. Yankees Chick

    the boys have been really poor with RISP the past couple days. VERY frustrating.

  330. Phil - 27 in '07

    12 LOB through 3 innings….not good. They’ll come around eventually.

  331. TimH

    phil, I’ve been watching the Yankees for over 50 years, I know what my eyes see, I don’t need Bill James to tell me. Melky has a great arm, there is no two ways about it.

  332. Da Bronx

    Up by a run without a bullpen tonight. It’s a big deal if the Yankees lose.

  333. Phil - 27 in '07

    Tim, you are arguing with yourself. Calm down. If you think Melky has a great arm, good for you.

    I view assists like I view saves. Interesting stats, but not great indicators of the realities of the game.

  334. mg

    Posting from the right field bleachers. Hughes looks decent so far but he still seems a little tentative with his stride. It seemed longer in his first couple starts. I think when he starts to trust his legs again we’ll see a couple extra mph and better bite on his curve.
    It’s good to see him through the first couple safely though. Now he just needs to get that K to BB ratio closer to his minor league numbers.

  335. Kill-Schill(ing)

    Couldn’t agree more Yankees Chick and worse, they’ve been running themselves out of innings. No excuse for not getting Matsui home from 3d with no one out. And then for Posada not running to 3d during the run-down.

  336. TimH

    Great another elitist from the Bill James school, Thank you for your time,have a nice day.

  337. Da Bronx

    “Do you wash your hand before you put it in your mouth… that’s nasty.”

    Bobby’s such a funny old guy.

  338. Phil - 27 in '07

    Tim: Not an elitist…I’m a pragmatist who understands the importance of the various stats, but only in the proper context.

    A Yankee (and Naval Academy) victory would make the day much better, but thank you for your concern.

  339. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    *SYRACUSE BEAT LOUISVILLE!*

    Come on YANKEES!

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  340. Dr. Acula

    What’s Bowa yelling about ?

  341. Mark

    The run producers have gone south. Let’s hope it’s a real short funk. It can’t carry over to the playoffs.

  342. Da Bronx

    God damnit! The Yankees are really stinking up this one!

    They’d be behind right now if they weren’t so lucky.

  343. Phil - 27 in '07

    Let’s go Phil…get out of the jam.

  344. Da Bronx

    We need a lead, not a deficit going into the late innings. Their bullpen is much better than ours.

  345. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, and David Ortiz ate my hamburger (aka Joe)

    I agree with MG. Once the legs get stronger, the velocity will improve. I think with Hughes fresh arm he can be a big factor in the postseason.

  346. Chicago Dave

    Yanks can’t buy a big hit with RISP and Phil still needs to learn how to put away major league hitters when is ahead in the count, as he is still throwing WAY too many pitches.

  347. Chicago Dave

    Come on, Phil, he’s a lousy .200 hitter!!!

  348. Phil - 27 in '07

    Notre Dame just scored their first offensive touchdown of the season!

    If they can score, so can the Yanks!

  349. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, and David Ortiz ate my hamburger (aka Joe)

    Pete,

    I would love to post from inside the Stadium, but I can’t because Clay Buchholz stole my laptop.

  350. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Dude. Yankees.

    Come on, you can do this.

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  351. Yankees Chick

    oh man. phil needs to settle down…. we really have no options but to keep him in. who do you think they’ll bring in if he can’t get out of the 5th or 6th inning?

  352. Da Bronx

    And the Yankees continue to lay a big fat egg with the playoffs on the way. I almost hope Detroit gets hot so I don’t have to watch the Yankees in the playoffs if they play like this.

  353. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, and David Ortiz ate my hamburger (aka Joe)

    Damn. You knew that was coming. He let him hang around too long.

  354. Chicago Dave

    Debate me all you want, but Phil is not ready for the majors right now. Making Curtis Thigpen look like Ichiro Suzuki is embarassing…

  355. Yankee Fan in Boston

    Ugh. Those LOB don’t look so innocent now, do they? It really felt like Hughes had nothing to actually put the batter away on that pitch. He’s going up 0-2 on all these batters, and letting them back in the count. It’s maddening.

  356. Da Bronx

    Phil, just throw a FRIGGIN strike! The gig’s up now, you need to worry about keeping your pitch count down enough to pitch 5 innings.

  357. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    I am using that Uusee thing and it was awesome…Phil made a great pitch to get out of the inning and the hitter got totally jammed and the flippin’ ball bounced into the stands for the Ground Rule double…nothing he could do abou that….GET THIS GUY, PHIL !!!

  358. mike

    hughes is the least economical pitcher the yanks have…….

  359. Vader

    Thanks Kay, Thiegpen is 0-23…..dumb a$$. I do not understand why he always has give those F’n stats. I am a firm believer in the jinx and he seems to always say things that I wouldn’t.

  360. Yankees Chick

    calm down da bronx…. you’re forgetting that they won 8 of 10 before last night. i wouldnt exactly call that “laying a big fat egg”.

  361. Yankee Fan in Boston

    Also, Hughes is flat, and has two speeds. 91-92, and 71-72. That’s why you are seeing all the foul balls. It’s a bad lineup locked in to a pitcher’s speed. A good lineup would torch what Hughes is throwing right now. 3 runs is lucky.

  362. Phil - 27 in '07

    Chicago Dave: He definitely needs work…but who else do they have to make this start?

  363. Bob

    Comeon now, somebody wake up the bats.

  364. Da Bronx

    Yeah, it just wasn’t the Yankees inning, right? It’s OK if they’re messing up because they still have a one run lead. What a crock of bull.

  365. BBB

    Dammit. This sucks hard.

  366. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    that ball caught too much of the plate and again a flippin’ bloop singl scores 2…DANG ! Yankee bats will come alive again in the bottom of the inning…Their starter will be cold and OUR HITTERS WILL BE P*SSED !

  367. Kill-Schill(ing)

    If the Yankees have to remove Hughes after 6 innings or god forbid, 5 innings, they’ll probably go to either Edwar, Veras, or Villone. Joe will probably save Bruney for the 8th inning. I only hope he doesn’t resort to using Britton.

  368. BBB

    Toronto going into their pen already??

  369. mike

    i think they should bring in igawa….

  370. Kill-Schill(ing)

    Today is a game they must have. McGowan has developed into a very dominating pitcher and Burnett already is one.

  371. Chicago Dave

    Phil – At this point, I’d take Clippard over Hughes.

  372. Woah

    Agreed – Hughes really isn’t pitching well and it scares me if this is the best stuff quality-wise that he’s got (as I watch Giambi swing sloppily at everything thrown). He only has 2 pitches from what I see – a fastball that isn’t really good enough to strike anyone out, and a curveball that everyone and their mother can foul back. If he didn’t have somewhat control, he wouldn’t be up right now. Verdict: move him to the bullpen, no room for 80+ pitches in 4 innings.

  373. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    Yankee Fan in Boston,,,,,believe me,,,Hughes is getting squeezed big time…Umps are giving him NOTHING !

  374. Brandon

    Philip has been solid today it’s a shame only because this inning started off w/ a double by Rios, P.S. Georgy he’s a first pitch swinger come on …

    but Philip was good until he got away from his fastball on Lind and Thigpen , the last out was a ground ball to Cano he threw his fastball. And again damn that luck how bloopers come in packages of breaking balls today.

    so far 2 mistakes by Hughes both curveballs

  375. Yankee Fan in Boston

    Something is definitely up when you see Giambi going down on 3 pitches, 2 of them swinging. This is the king of OBP, and he just went down about as fast as you can. Follow that up with vintage 2005 Cano, and it’s textbook flat play by the Yankees the past two days.

    Off-days have a way of really killing this team’s momentum, and it looks like thursday did just that.

  376. BBB

    I wouldn’t mind T-Clip coming in in relief of Hughes at all. In fact, I think I’d prefer him over Igawa.

    Oh, Marcum w/an injured knee. They have a good bullpen but it seems most of their best RPs got a lot of work in last night, hopefully they will at some point bring in one of those “seedy underbelly” relievers.

  377. Chicago Dave

    Giambi back to his old self, I see…

    When this team goes flat, it REALLY goes flat…So maddening to watch!

    Pete was right…This series was the key to the division race…and it’s going out the door with every passing runner left on base and every Toronto batter that Hughes can’t quite put away. AAARGH!!!

  378. Da Bronx

    lol, good job Dougie

  379. BBB

    “Hughes is getting squeezed big time…Umps are giving him NOTHING !”

    Uncle Vito, because that bitch Angel Hernandez is behind the plate. God I HATE him!!

  380. longtime

    guys the issue is not hughes it’s the offense the whole team is in a funk anyone can them out at this time even hughes

  381. BBB

    another crappy inning for the bats. Man this sucks!

  382. Da Bronx

    Yeah, Hernandez is squeezing both pitchers. That’s his strike zone. Remember when I said, “it’s going to be a long day?”

  383. Yankees Chick

    yankees fan in boston, you are 100% correct… last night WAS very disappointing, and i’m guessing they cant shake the feeling this morning. on the other hand, toronto is riding a great win (for them), so i’m sure they’re playing better for it.

  384. Yankee Fan in Boston

    This game is going out the window because Torre decided to give Cabrera, in a 3-43 slump, the most at bats on the team today, and Hughes can’t put people away.

    We have so many options on the bench, and this is the lineup that Torre runs out there in a middle game? Good god.

  385. Da Bronx

    Yeah, Chicago, if the Yankees lose tonight the division race doesn’t look too good.

  386. Yankees Chick

    who would YOU put as leadoff then? melky has good #s as a leadoff, and he’s a good hitter – slump or not. who else is he gonna put there – betemit??

  387. Chicago Dave

    Hughes is definitely part of the problem…80 pitches to get through 4 innings? Getting guys to 0-2 or 1-2 and then proceeding to give up hits and/or walks? It’s not just because he’s getting “squeezed.” All rookies get squeezed, even Joba. However, the good ones have the stuff to make batters swing-and-miss, regardless. I don’t see that Phil has that sort of stuff, at least not this year…

  388. Bob

    You need Cabrera in the lineup. He’s gonna be playing in the PS, and you need to get him out of this funk.

  389. Da Bronx

    They can’t shake off yesterday’s game this morning? What kind of a team is this if that’s true?

  390. Vader

    Is Matsui, playing on the warning track?

  391. Brandon

    Matsui-San better hit a HR today

  392. Kill-Schill(ing)

    Yankees Chick, check out Melky’s stats as a lead-off hitter.

    As a lead-off hitter, Melky is batting .260 with a .309 OBA and 8, yes eight, walks.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/indiv.....splitSet=2

  393. pat

    All the whiners are out today. Nothing a few runs can’t cure.

  394. Kill-Schill(ing)

    they’re hardly awe-inspiring.

  395. Kill-Schill(ing)

    Supposedly, the Yankees are going to pitch Ohlendorf today.

  396. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    Phil is missing his spots a lot now…we need a GDP !

  397. Da Bronx

    Melky is not a good hitter, he’s a league average hitter with poor plate discipline. Damon is much more suited to the leadoff spot. And it’s not like Matsui couldn’t use a day or two off with the slump he’s in.

  398. Bob

    I don’t know if it’s all whining.

    The past 18 innings have been very tedious and frustrating to watch for sure.

  399. Brandon

    he’s 23 yrs. old !!!!

  400. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, and David Ortiz ate my hamburger (aka Joe)

    Even if they won I would imagine that they would still be in a bit of a funk.

  401. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    REAL BAD PLAY by Matsui….that ball was catchable and he LET it drop right in front of him…terrible !

  402. Da Bronx

    lol, Yankees Chick, those are good numbers in your mind? No wonder you think Melky’s a good hitter.

  403. Yankees Chick

    why are are y’all so negative this afternoon? stop asking why the YANKS cant shake off last night, why cant YOU shake off last night?

    losta angry folks out today. simmer down. they’ll be fine.

  404. Chicago Dave

    To be fair, a lot of teams find it difficult to get a good leadoff guy. That’s part of the reason the Yanks wanted Damon so bad to begin with. Of course, it was a good bet at the time…Damon was one of the few “proven” leadoff batters in the game (at least at the time they signed him).

  405. fleas

    ugh… so we get to 1 1/5 games…

    But where is our run support? I can’t believe BRuney blew it last night like that. Actually I can… and Melky is looking as horrible as he did in the beginning of the year.

    Why is that when Melky is doing bad Cano typically does too? Is there any coincedence because they are best friends and staying out partying before games?

    Matsui, well hell he hit the ball well the other day.. but we cannot afford these cold bats at this time of year.

    It would have been nice to win the division for sure, but I just don’t see it happening with slumping batters, hurting starting pitching, unpredictable bullpen.

    It wouldn’t be so bad, if we can get Arod and Matsui hot.

    geez, I love Melky, but all year I have been saying that he has absolutely no plate discipline and has no biusiness swinging at the first pitch. He really needs someone to work with him here. He swings at soooo many pitches out of the strike zone. Poor guy is getting to be that guaranteed out again.

  406. fleas

    1 1/2 typo

  407. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, and David Ortiz ate my hamburger (aka Joe)

    John Ford Griffin? Wasn’t he our former #1 pick?

  408. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    REAL NICE pitch by Phil there…sweet !

  409. Da Bronx

    And if Cashman didn’t pitcher the rotation so much, Hughes would be put in a much better situation for him to succeed this year and in the future.

    Between Hughes’ injury and the tiny amount of time he got at the Triple-A level, he has gotten very little development done this year.

  410. Yankee Fan in Boston

    If anyone is watching this game on Gameday, pay attention to Hughes pitches on the chart. It’s his 91-92, small-break stuff that they’re keying in to. He’s putting it over the plate, and he’s not mixing up his speed.

    Also, on the curves he got burned on, I’m pretty sure it’s because they were sitting on the curve, because it was the first one he’d thrown to each batter. It was a very obvious “and now I’ll put them away with my curve…” call, and the Jays were on top of it. That’s his inexperience.

    The Jays are swinging, and they aren’t missing. That doesn’t usually lead to godo results unless you thrwo Wangian bowling balls.

  411. Chicago Dave

    pat – OK, so a few runs are going to “cure” Phil Hughes, eh? Explain that logic to me, please…I’m very curious to know exactly how that will actually work!

  412. BBB

    Yeah there is a lot of negativity here today! I kinda woke up on the wrong side of the bed this AM for other reasons but trying to remain positive in terms of the team.

    What ever happened to OPTIMISM guys? Let’s go Yanks!!!

  413. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    …and that time he missed his spot by a foot at least, with the pitch tailing back over the plate RIGHT IN Thomas’ wheelhouse…he was lucky that didn’t get jacked !

  414. Yankees Chick

    do you think the fact that hughes wasn’t expecting to pitch today affected him much? i know he had sufficient rest, but is it possible that the last minute change in plans shook him up a bit?

  415. Da Bronx

    We’re not being payed to play for the Yankees. It doesn’t matter for sh*t if we can’t shake off last night.

    And for the record, I woke up optimistic today but the Yankees have fixed that in a hurry. They’re doing all the wrong things and very little right at the most important time in the regular season.

  416. Phil - 27 in '07

    Yes, JF Griffin was our first round draft pick…he was traded away in the Jeff Weaver deal, IIRC.

  417. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    come…time to K someone here !!!

  418. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, and David Ortiz ate my hamburger (aka Joe)

    I understand what you’re saying about Cabrera, but it’s not like by him hitting leadoff, he’s getting 2 extra at bats a game than everyone else.

  419. Bob

    Yep, John Ford Griffin. Part of that Weaver deal.

  420. Da Bronx

    No, I think it’s more likely that Hughes is struggling because he’s not ready for the majors as he’s demonstrated all year.

  421. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    ( I meant come on )….nice pitch there..batter just wealkly fouled it off….

  422. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    Way to work out of it Phil !!!…YANKEES TAKE THE LEAD NOW…GO GO GO TEAM !!!

  423. pat

    Dave
    The rus are to help the whining not the pitcher. Let’s hope the Yankee players have a better emotional balance than some of their fans. Prozac is needed all around here today.

  424. BBB

    I think that could be a factor Yankees Chick, especially coupled with the rain delay. Which was looking as if it may have messed up Marcum a bit too, so Phil’s not alone.

    Anyway, sweet that Thomas is out of the lineup now…

  425. Chicago Dave

    Yankees Chick – If Hughes’ last several outings hadn’t been so similar to today’s effort, I’d say maybe the short notice played apart. However, today is just an extension of the way he has been pitching, period.

  426. Da Bronx

    Toronto’s in the heads of the Yankees bats now. They have a look on their face like they’re already out when they walk into the box.

  427. Yankees Chick

    what the team (and the fans!) need today is a little dose of…

    SHELLEY DUNCAN!!

    high fives all around will cure what ails ya

  428. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, and David Ortiz ate my hamburger (aka Joe)

    Yankees Chick. Do you do your own eyebrows or are they professionally done?

  429. Da Bronx

    Pat, how can you be anything less than disappointed with the team’s effort today? This is embarrassing.

  430. fleas

    other than Giambi with that clutch hit yesterday… he is a wash..

    Is it just me or is he shedding pounds like crazy? he is looking ultra-thin!

    I just looked at the lineup.. same players doing the same thing again…

    Jeter,Arod,Posada… hits

    melky, abreau, cano .. no hits! When these guys don’t hit like that collectively we are in big trouble..

    Do you think we will keep Abreau next year?? I sure hope not! Maybe we can trade him for Sheffield… (just kidding)

    Can we get Matt Holliday please… !

  431. Phil - 27 in '07

    Alright, Abreu’s on!

  432. Da Bronx

    Come on A-Rod, we need someone to carry this team.

  433. Bob

    I heard this A-Rod guy hits lots of homers.

  434. Jeter's future wife

    what is the channel # of the gameon sopcast?

  435. Chicago Dave

    Yankees Chick should supplant Kim Jones!!!

  436. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, and David Ortiz ate my hamburger (aka Joe)

    Fleas, it’s not you, he looks much thinner than earlier in the year.

  437. Da Bronx

    fleas, it’s not mystery why Giambi’s losing a lot of weight…

  438. BBB

    IIRC, the last time the team was looking and playing flat, putting Shelley in the lineup did in fact do the trick.

  439. Chicago Dave

    Yes, it’s called the, “Hey, did I mention I’m off steroids now!” diet!!! ;)

  440. Da Bronx

    Nope, instead A-Rod looks silly striking out just like Jeter.

  441. Chicago Dave

    Can Shelley play CF? If so, I say sub him for Melky NOW!!!

  442. fleas

    BTW, last’s nights final called strike was just pitiful!!

    Chipper Jones is the only one who has the balls to call out MLB on the steadily degrading performances by MLB umps. He even told MLB that it is an embarassment to baseball.

    wow, we just look pathetic at the plate.. totally pathetic!

  443. Bob

    Well, A-Rod is in mid playoff form alreay.

  444. longtime

    this team is in a slump better get out of it before October

  445. Chicago Dave

    Time for Joe to call another clubhouse meeting, methinks…

  446. choke-rod

    time to start booing me again

  447. BBB

    If Giambi’s spot comes up with runners on vs a lefty, perhaps they should PH Shelley. I am extremely sick of Giambi lately.

  448. pat

    Have they looked off their game? Yes.
    Can they turn it around? We’ll see.
    I usually wait until all 9 innings are played before I judge effort. Still lots of baeseball left to play.

  449. Woah

    Yankees: 36 hits, 14 BB, 1 run, 0 earned.

  450. Da Bronx

    Thank you Reed Johnson. Good to see we’re not the only ones messing up.

  451. Phil - 27 in '07

    Matsui-san!

  452. BBB

    Matusi-san!! HOLLA!!!!

  453. Brandon

    *Matsui-San now you need one more to redeem thyself !!*

  454. DCJim

    Matsui-san … arigato

  455. Da Bronx

    pat, what happened in the 3rd inning still counts come the 9th inning.

  456. choke-rod

    i like being booed cause i suck

  457. Chicago Dave

    Someone mentioned Ohlendorf might be pitching today. At least that’s something to look forward to!

    Come to think of it, seems we have several pitching prospects that are better than Phil Hughes at the moment…Joba, IPK, maybe even Ohlendorf. Makes me wonder why Hughes was voted to be their top guy (be everyone and their mother/brother) the past few years…

  458. Woah

    prediction: strikeout

  459. Bob

    Giambi hitting behind Jorge is gonna get Jorge nothing to hit.

  460. pat

    And what happens in the 9th can’t be predicted in the 3rd.

  461. Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez

    I like being the man to such an immense degree that people on blogs impersonate me from their mommas’ basements.

  462. choke-rod

    i dont look forward to seeing ohlendork pitch. he cant throw strikes to save his life.

  463. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, and David Ortiz ate my hamburger (aka Joe)

    I predict a big hit by Giambi.

  464. Brandon

    Matsui-San you still owe me a run for that LF pull up

  465. Chicago Dave

    Ugh…Jason’s up again!

  466. Da Bronx

    Let’s hope Giambi got a shot in the ass this morning. We could sure use steroids era Giambi right now!

  467. choke-rod

    Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez is posting from his mom’s basement??

  468. Woah

    “prediction: strikeout”

    didn’t fail me. Giambino get off my team.

  469. Da Bronx

    Nope, Giambi forgot to eat his HGHie Flakes this morning.

  470. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, and David Ortiz ate my hamburger (aka Joe)

    What a dumb prediction.

  471. choke-rod

    good one giambi. why dont you go sit on the bench for the rest of the season, loser.

  472. Chicago Dave

    choke-rod – At least Ohlendorf actually looks his age, unlike your boy Bucholz. Oh, and he doesn’t have a criminal record, either…

  473. BBB

    Enough Giambi. WE WANT SHELLEY!!!

  474. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    that’s OK…got one of them back…we are OK !

  475. Phil - 27 in '07

    And now the trolls come out..my time to exit. Have a great night everyone!

  476. Da Bronx

    I don’t see anyone playing psychic here pat.

  477. Twenty-Three Grannies

    CUUUUUSE!!

    Our best win in three years. Robinson had an insane day today, 4 TDs and 400+ passing yards. I really don’t know what to say.

    (Sorry for the derail… back to baseball.)

    I love you Matsui. Big Number 100 right there, when we need it.

  478. boo giambi

    i suck more than choke-rod

  479. Brandon

    Giambi is pitching a gem today 10 pitches and 3 K’s

  480. Chicago Dave

    Well, if we could at least keep it at 3-2 we’ll have a chance…Even for an offense slumping like the Yanks are, freak things can still happen that lead to a single run.

  481. Jeter's future wife

    channel please?

  482. Bob

    Villone…oh well so much for this one.

  483. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, and David Ortiz ate my hamburger (aka Joe)

    One of my favorite line ever. “I don’t own the company, in fact, I don’t know anything about it”.

  484. redsox forever

    YANKEES SUCK AHAHAHA

  485. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    in Jason’s defense, that checked swing strike 2 call was BOGUS !!

  486. rbizzler

    Trolls are lame. Wait until the Sox get smoked by Tampa tonight and they will crawl back into their little holes.

  487. redsox forever

    look at yankees fans panicking! afraid you will lose your wildcard lead? what a collapse! GO REDSOX! BIG PAPI > CHOKEROD

  488. Brandon

    you still owe me a run Matsui-San

  489. Chicago Dave

    Yes, “Troll Nation” is coming out into the light of day again. Have any of you little beasties seen Manny lately? Perhaps passing him in the street on his way to his favorite shrink? Just curious…

  490. Bob

    Hey, Matsui caught one!

  491. erin

    wow redsox trolls huh? i guarantee we win today or i will jump off a building!

  492. randy l

    sometimes you have to go rational instead of emotional in a pennant race if you want to keep your sanity.. before this game according to espn( thank you josh) the yankees chance of not making the playoffs was 1 in 166. so while not playing well last night and today is annoying, it’s not the end of the world.
    this yankee team is flawed more than the championship teams. we’re just going to have to accept that and ride it out as long as possible in the playoffs and hope for the best. next year’s team should be a lot better assuming cashman signs/extends posada, rivera, abreau, and arod.
    … once the yankees are in the playoffs anything could happen incuding #27.

  493. Wake up time

    The Yanks are back to playing inexplicably stupid baseball.

    Look at last night: Matsui swings on the first pitch with his team down 4-1 with one out in the bottom of the ninth, Abreu swings on the first pitch after Jeter leads off an extra inning with a single, and Giambi swings at the first pitch in extra innings as well. Matsui and Molina don’t take on 3-1 counts (same inning) which could’ve resulted in a walk or two thus men on base, what you want in a 4-4 tie. Everyone was swinging for a walkoff homerun.

    Today: Matsui gets caught in a rundown, but dumbo Posada isn’t on 3B thus Cano couldn’t go to 2B, next guy gets a hit, thanks for costing the Yanks 2 runs Posada. Posada is officially a postseason liability with his slowness and baserunning and you need only look at the Mets in Game 1 of the 2000 World Series to see that bad baserunning can lose a game.

    It is too late in the season for the Yanks to make stupid baserunning mistakes like they have these past two games.

    I am alarmed that this team time and time again plays great ball then goes the polar opposite with atrocious ball. It shows they are unbalanced and that could kill them in the postseason.

  494. Chicago Dave

    redsox forever – That post was a huge (and very weak) stretch. Don’t try to make us out to be the Choke-Sox. Even your own network, ESPN, has taken to calling you chokers every chance they get…How’s that feel? Oh yeah, and Fat Papi was really clutch in the ninth inning of that 4-3 Yanks victory, wasn’t he? I mean, weak popouts are always clutch, right? HEHEHEHE!!! What a joke…

  495. redsox forever

    hey chicago dave- shutup. the redsox nation will prevail! the redsox will win the world series! i like how your young stud in phil hughes got ripped by a dude named thigpen. nice future! what a collapse theeeeeeeeeeeeee yankees looooooosee!

  496. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    unlike the play earlier….Matsui got a very good jump on that fly ball…

  497. Brandon

    Red Sox forever it must be sad knowing your Bucholz can’t throw a ball to a base

  498. Jeter's future wife

    what’s the score?

  499. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    I will tell ya…leaving Matsui at 3rd after his Triple, needs to be made up for….

  500. anthony from bronx

    I am new to this site but I have been saying for ever that giambi is shot.He is either always hurt or just about “right there ” with his swing.Man I cant wait for his contract to be up.Joe needs to give Melky a few days off.What do we make of Melky?I still say he is at best a 4th o.f.He has a good arm but doesnt always take the proper route to the ball.Can we win a championship with him as our starting c.f.

  501. redsox forever

    hey brandon you must be sad knowing phil hughes cant get scrubs like thigpen out! the next clemens! haha :)

  502. Chicago Dave

    redsox forever – That’s original…”shutup”…That’s the best you have to offer? Who’s the public school commissioner in the ghetto where you live? I’m going to call him/her and have a serious chat about the plummeting educational standards…

    Now go to your homework before I have to call your momma.

  503. Brandon

    anthony be calm and patient w/ Melky remember he’s 23

  504. Brandon

    Red Sox forever I could always use Dice-K aka I get hit 12 times per game :D

  505. redsox forever

    you guys must be jealous of ellsbury. he is 500000x better than melky. melky’s swing is perfect for the little league :)

  506. Chicago Dave

    Time for yours truly to take a break from this scintillating chat and enjoy the fabulous weather we’re currently enjoying here in Chicago. Here’s hoping the Yanks find a way to pull this one out!

  507. Dave

    Giambi has three strikeouts in two clutch situations. Melky is looking horrible right now- he really needs to be benched and put in fear of his job – he is too comfortable and thinks no matter how he plays he will start in center every day. Thas a bad mindset

  508. Jeter's future wife

    ok, well at least I got it on MLB audio….i hate these Saturday games before 5. they are always blacked out on MLB Extra Innings and also on MLB TV. the sopcast is a bit perplexing to me.

  509. Dave

    obp under 330 and the guy is NOT fast. Why shuld he lead off at all?

  510. randy l

    resox forever-
    are you alarmed that papelbon didn’t get a pitch over 94 the other night when he gave up the grand slam? shoulder problem flaring up?

  511. Brandon

    hmmm.. very original hows Craig Hansens doing ?

  512. redsox forever

    chicago dave- oh ya thats so original! ive never heard that before!

    LOL i just saw melky hit the ball to the pitcher! ROFL! if someone needs to inject steroids, its him! ellsbury > melky “little league” cabrera

    brandon- im pretty sure dice k owned you guys :)

  513. Dave

    not every prospect can pay off and melky is NOT our centerfielder for the next 10 yrs – he is a DECENT centerfielder on a bad team. On the yanks, he is just not good enough offensively to start in center every day. No power, not much speed, 280 batting avg which means his obp wont be much above 330. That is awful for a centerfielder on the yanks. we shuld sign hunter or someone in the off season, make damon our permanent dh. Giambi wont be healthy for most of the yr anyways so the 20 games he does play, he can just pinch hit and occassionally play first. melky is a quality fourth outfielder or great trade bait

  514. Bob

    Guys, don’t feed the trolls.

  515. fleas

    Pete, instead of setting up registration… why doesn’t your company just ban people by IP address? Or better yet, hire someone to do in game monitoring .. sounds like a great intern position!

    also you can write code that will say.. somethling like..

    If the same poster keeps changing his name in the name form field, match that to his/her IP address, if it happens more than twice in say 10 minutes, block them from posting..

    (Melky is totally lost.. beyong lost… HORRIBLY LOST!)

  516. Dave

    im pretty sure dice k’s era is over 7 against the yanks despite his most recent performance.

  517. Jeter's future wife

    Hey redsox forever, i have to tell ya, you better hope your starters are in for the long haul, game in game out, b/c oh by the way, you have NO bullpen! GAGME, Papelbomb, take your pick! get out of here already!

  518. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    I can’t resist..after Melky stunk it up in the 9 hole last night…..SUPER SMART MOVE to lead him off today….NOT !

  519. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    Bobby AND A-Rod are gonna bail us out here…YOU WATCH !!!

  520. Brandon

    Red Sox Forever if bases loaded 5 times per game is owning someone then I’m pretty sure NO-K w/ his 6.12 ERA vs NYY is owning but from the other side :D

  521. Luke

    Gimbi is a shell of his former self and should not be considered even a GOOD player anymore.

  522. Jon

    Pfft, don’t doubt Ron Villone!
    2 batters, 2 outs! Outstanding job!

  523. dmm

    y the injury delay?

  524. Jon

    Meanwhile, Melky has been awful lately. I think Damon should have pinch hit for him just now in the 6th.

  525. Dave

    melky goes 0 for 5 and torre rewards him by batting him leadoff today. No matter how u slice it – this makes no sense.

  526. Yankee Fan in Boston

    I live in Boston, and it’s absolutely amazing how much the Yankees are in the heads of every single Red Sox fan in this town. I have never seen any group, of anything, so utterly fearful of another group. Red Sox fans live more for hating other teams, namely the Yankees, than they do for loving their own team.

    It’s called schaedenfraude, and this town is rife with it. I’ve lived in NYC, and honestly, the Red Sox are a footnote there. Here, the Yankees loom over *everything.* I literally don’t wear Yankee clothing for fear of a beating. It’s palpable on the streets. The Yankees are so inside the head of every Bostonian, that I laugh when I read comments like I do on these boards. Even after they won the 2004 World Series, many of them were waiting for the other shoe to drop. It’s a horrible, horrible way to live, and I can’t imagine following sports with that mindset. Yet, the trolls on this board prove it time and again: Red Sox fans are more interested in the suffering of others, than in their own happiness. I guess it’s just been bred out of them.

  527. fleas

    Dave,

    You are selling Melky short. He has the potential to be a good hitter and is already a great defensive CF.

    He is pretty quick, or at least he is always hustling and isn’t afraid to run his heart out and dive into FB…

    However, with a team with bats like ours.. we can afford to have a .280 hitter in CF with Melky’s defense.

    No one else would care about his offiense so much if it wasn’t for his amigos (cano, abreau) doing nothing

    I would not want Tori Hunter… We need a solid young outfielder like Matt Holliday.

    I just don’t get why Melky,Bobby and Robby always seem to have O for’s together…

    it’s either they hit or they don’t. .. coincedence?

    But I do feel the same way at times as Dave.. for sure it is frustrating to see Melky at bat like this.

  528. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    HERE IT COMES !!!

  529. Bob

    dmm, they thought Frasor might be hurt after that play.

  530. redsox forever

    why do you want to ban me? trash talk is part of the game! :)

    dice k pitched very good against the yanks. he has figured them out. i predict complete games here on out.

  531. Paolo

    Showtime for A-rod…

  532. Bob

    Comeon A-Rod, you’re due!!!!!!

  533. dmm

    thanks Bob. glad its not a yank. COME ON AROD!!!!!!!!!!!

  534. Brandon

    do you need footage to see how NoK looked :)

  535. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    MVP !!!,,,Just a base hit here to score 2 and we take the lead…Bobby did his part…COME ON A-ROD !!! ( Grand Salami ??? )

  536. Yankees Chick

    what a CHOKER a-rod is.

    NICE!!!!!! CLUTCH!! MVP!!!!!!!

  537. YanksFanLV

    Well this is the time for Arod to break out of it.

  538. Dave

    Everyone says we can sacrifice center field offense b/c of our lineup but really u cant think like that. We need guys that can hit in every spot. I dont care really if melky has potential, at this point he has to show that potential.

    I said Hunter because he is a free agent this off season. Holiday is clearly a better younger hitter but we would have to give colorado farr too much to get a guy like that. All we have to do is give hunter some money.

  539. dmm

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! finally some runs! AROD 4 MVP

  540. Bob

    Nice!

    BTW John Sterling is soooooo annoying. lol

  541. BBB

    MVP MVP MVP MVP!!!!! Gawd I heart Alex!!

  542. pat

    A-Rod rockin the double and the start of a goatee!

  543. Dave

    and diving into first base is NOT a good thing. He isnt fast he just hustles – but alot of players do that. I just meant we cant say he doesnt have any power but he has speed cuz he doesnt have either. Hes just too mediocre of a player to be a starting centerfielder for the new york yankees.

  544. Yankees Chick

    bob… i’ll still take sterling over kay! heheh ;)

    its the THEEEE-E-E-E-E Yankees WIN! vs

    GOING BACK, AT THE WALL, SEEYA!

    which one is more annoying?!

  545. anthony from bronx

    Thats why Sept1 I would have also called up bret gradner for at least defense.Torre needs to figure out c.f. before the playoffs.I do not believe we can win a series with Melky as our starting c.f.Damon also is not the answer.these last 20or so innings is why the angels beat us.The yanks always have a problem with situational hitting.I m not sure but I would love to see our % of getting the run in from 3rd with less then 2 out.The angels always socre that run against us

  546. Bob

    Comeon man.

    Hunter is gonna cost WAAAAAY more than he is worth at his age. 2 years from now whoever signs him will be trying to dump him.

    and why in the name of God would Colrado trade Holliday?

    Let’s try and be rationale.

  547. BBB

    BTW, LMAO at sox fans trolling NOW. Where were you punks last week when we were gaining game after game? Where were you when Jeter homered off 38donuts.com?

    I’m thinking of a word, it starts with p and rhymes with “wussies”… ;)

  548. Brandon

    *Matsui-San you still owe me a run dammit*

  549. Bob

    Yankees Chick, Sterling just drives me nuts. I’ll be in the other room, hear him screaming, run back in the room, and hear it was a shallow pop up. lol

  550. TKinDC

    wow I come back 2 hours later and Dave is still ragging on Melky? Have you considered a different hobby?

  551. Global Warming

    “Thats why Sept1 I would have also called up bret gradner for at least defense.Torre needs to figure out c.f. before the playoffs.I do not believe we can win a series with Melky as our starting c.f.Damon also is not the answer.these last 20or so innings is why the angels beat us.”

    Are you kidding me? I’ve been down on Melkys bat myself but no way do you sit him down for Brett Gardner. Brett is the future but as of right now he wouldn’t cut it up.

    By the way, this lineup is good enough where they can carry around Melky. He won’t be leading off in the postseason so it’ll be alright.

    You have 5 guys who will be at or near 100 RBI’s. You don’t need 9 all star bats to win a post season series– how did that work out last year for us?

  552. Bob

    Anytime you’re mentioned in the same breath as Mattingly, you must be pretty good. :)

  553. Brandon

    consider your error in LF redeemed MATSUI-SAN …ARIGATO :)

  554. BBB

    MATSUI-SAN!!!!! Previous slump now a mere blip on the radar of his epic greatness! :D

  555. Bob

    2 out rallies. :)

    Now who is gonna hold this lead?

  556. Paolo

    Brandon, you got it…

  557. Leonardo

    hey red sox forever, after that admittedly good start from dice-k over the weekend, it dropped his ERA to an impressive 6.02 against the Yanks this year. You know its only too bad that the yankees have averaged 6.42 runs per game since the break. Otherwise he would have been a winner. get out of here.

  558. dmm

    whos hurt now?!?!?!

  559. Joe M

    I go for two hrs and they start ragging on the announcers go to chicago an maybe you all will be glad to here key and sterling

  560. fleas

    that is what I am talking about!!!!

  561. Defense matters

    whos injured?

  562. Luthien

    Kay and Sterling are god compared to the two white sox announcers

  563. YanksFanLV

    what the crap are all of these injury delays?

  564. Joe M

    Thank You

  565. redsox forever!!!

    sorry guys i got banned. i dont think i can post here anymore without using proxy. bye and im really a yankees fan. i was just frustrated so i pretended to be a redsox fan! HEHEHEHE!

  566. Yankee Fan in Boston

    Statistically, Melky Cabrera is not a total loss in centerfield, right now he is, but that is, across baseball, not the greatest hitting position in the league. Where we really get killed is first base. Our first base averages for our mega-platoon we have going there is below league average, yet the salary eaten up by the position (Giambi alone) is astronomical. We carry our first base position by our incredible 3B and C production. We shouldn’t carry ANY position. Outs are too valuable to be able to give any up.

  567. Global Warming

    Question:

    Should Edwar Ramirez be on the Postseason Roster?

  568. dmm

    just tell me it wasnt one of ours who is hurt….please?

  569. Brandon

    no it was Downs they pulled Ohlendorf to get a feel for Veras who I must say has impressed me

  570. TKinDC

    GW -

    I think he will be because he strikes people out (of course, when they don’t hit the ball about 400 ft on a rope)

  571. I love Joba

    Is anyone else having trouble with mlbtv? It keep stelling me the game is on Fox, but it’s not :(

  572. Brandon

    another bloop hit

  573. Vader

    Kay is 2-2 for today with the jinx.

  574. Luthien

    I love Joba – FOX has the rights to the games and unless you are in an area they are broadcasting it than you won’t be able to see it on TV

  575. Leonardo

    i think that we need edwar on the post season roster. he’s good if he doesn’t have to face more than a few batters. and 2 outs in a tough situation are valuable in the playoffs. the reason why thats an interesting question for me is, can he handle it? he has the stuff, but can he do it? we’ll have to wait and see.

  576. BBB

    Am I the only one wondering why they didnt leave Ohlendorf in longer? It’s not so much that I have a problem with Veras pitching but we are still only in the 7th.

    But Mo is available today right? What about the Viz?

  577. Leonardo

    also, we have to make it there first. lets go yan-kees.

  578. Mike

    IGAWA.

  579. I Love the Yanks

    * sigh*
    here comes the 3 run HR

  580. Brandon

    my god this crowd in Yankee Stadium needs to show some support atleast :(

  581. BBB

    At least one of those balls was a strike. Just sayin.

  582. Scooter

    Way to not hustle out there and allow an easy extra base.

  583. Todd

    Why the hell did he take Ohlendorf out????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  584. Leonardo

    Olehndorf looked great, if anything he throws strikes. I was wondering the same exact thing. I really like him out of the pen. I can’t stand walks, especially walks with a 3 run lead. Joe Veras is walking a tight rope. Stairs has some serious power.

  585. Da Bronx

    Stairs should be sitting fastball here…

  586. Leonardo

    Maybe, he’s trying to see what these guys are made of, and the only way to do it is put them in these pressuer situations. But man i really want this game. I hope Veras comes through.

  587. Leonardo

    Thank you matt stairs.

  588. Da Bronx

    Thank you Stairs. That was one ugly AB.

  589. Leonardo

    Rios is really good anything in the zone right now is a big mistake.

  590. Da Bronx

    Not the prettiest inning from Veras but he’s one out away from getting the job done.

  591. Brandon

    com’on Jose

  592. Bob

    ughhh

  593. Leonardo

    As great a season as Posada is having Offensively, he needs to handle taht pitch, I dont know what Kay is talking about. Crossup or not, thats a pass ball. I dont care.

  594. Bob

    How do walk this guy?????

  595. anthony from bronx

    global warming the heat is getting to you.Last year the Yanks had the best offense of all time according to jim leyland.Did they win?No my point is the playoffs are usually decided by one or 2 runs If the Yanks dont start playing for that run when it presents itself they wont advance.My point with Melky is that he has a better chance of hurting you in aclose game then helping you.Also you just cant give away outs in a playoff game.My point about Gardner is that he is as good defensively as Melky and who knows about hitting.He is compared to Ellsbury and look at how he is doing.Also Gardner is the fastest player in the system

  596. sunny615

    this is one ugly half inning by veras.

  597. Leonardo

    Aaron Hill is the new Shea Hillenbrand, God I hate his face.

  598. Brandon

    *dammit Matsui-San you owe me another run !!!*

  599. Miller

    A. This guy sucks.

    B. Why doesnt Matsui ever lay out??? Thats the 4th hit today to pop right infront of him.

  600. - - - -

    Still impressed, Brandon?

    Have to figure Torre is running an open audition for post-season roster today. Still, why take Ohlendorf out after 1/3 inning?

  601. BBB

    NICE F’N CALL TAKING OHLENDORF OUT!! grrrrrrrrrr

  602. Bob

    good call Leonardo. I agree about Hill. lol

  603. Da Bronx

    Matsui can not be in left field in Yankee Stadium. How many runs has he cost us today?

  604. Dimitri - 27 in '07

    How many bloop hits can a team have in a single game? This is unbelievable.

  605. Josh

    I don’t understand why Ohlendorf didn’t go back out for the 7th. Doesn’t make any sense to me at all.

  606. Leonardo

    While I’d want him to lay out too, laying out and missing that ball, means tie ball game. He’s not the most athletic man in the world.

  607. BBB

    Disgusting bullpen management today.

  608. WangFan88

    Yankee fielders have been extremely sloppy this inning. Bobby Abreu let a single turn into a double, Posada with the passed ball, Matsui let that fly ball drop in, and ARod was in bad position to make that tag.

  609. - - - -

    Veras is making Krazy Kyle look good.

  610. Global Warming

    Cy Ross Ohlendorf and his 2.1 innings of big league ball and people are complaining he didn’t stay in.

    C’mon people!

  611. Todd

    Torre is friggin senile for taking out Ohlendorf, and may have cost the team a win. Stupid, stupid move

  612. Leonardo

    HOW IS THAT NOT A STRIKE?

  613. WangFan88

    Guys, Veras wasn’t that bad this inning. If you think he was, you’re probably watching Gameday rather than actually looking at how he’s pitching. He gave up two hits on soft fly balls and the defense hasn’t been backing him up.

  614. Da Bronx

    Why the hell do you back up on a ball that’s going to drop right in front of you?

  615. BBB

    that was a ball? O’RLY?

  616. Miller

    PATHETIC!!!

  617. Leonardo

    THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU THROW 3 FAT PITCHES IN A ROW

  618. Brandon

    did Georgy call for a high change up but K-RAM com’on !

  619. BBB

    OMFG I want to break something right now.

    Actually many things…starting w/Angel Hernandez’ fcking fibula.

  620. Yankee Fan in Boston

    Wow. Not even a three run lead is safe to this team right now. I think this is an example of how a extra inning loss can result in two losses, not one. Edwar Ramirez has done nothing impressive.

  621. Leonardo

    great chris britton is warming up, chime the bells, i’m outta here.

  622. Miller

    Unreal right now.

  623. Vader

    Glad, that were having auditions today.

  624. BBB

    and could the Blue Gays please get a little luckier? I have never seen such a disgusting amount of luck in my life.

  625. Dr. Acula

    Check it out.

    Babe Ruth’s ghost is warming up in the bullpen

  626. YankeeJosh

    I would have left Ohlendorf in too, but it’s not like Joe had many options. Farnsworth is hurt. Veras has major control issues but looked okay. Maybe should have gone to Edwar before Veras.

    This is where coming back and losing yesterday hurts us. If the team went down quietly 4-0, you’d have had Joba, Viz, Mo for 1 inning each to seal off a win today.

  627. WangFan88

    WHAT IS WITH THESE BLOOP HITS?!?!?!?!?!?!?

  628. Global Warming

    Other than Vizcaino, Joba, and Mo–this bullpen is average at best.

    Which is why I find it funny that people complain why so and so didn’t come in or stay in. Like when people complained about Farns not pitching the other day…..really? The Farns?

    Ross Ohlendorf has 3 innings of MLB ball. Not exactly a proven thing.

  629. Yankee Fan in Boston

    We literally threw this game away.

  630. Brandon

    wtf is w/ these bloops !!

  631. randy l

    well ,it’s not likely 7-6 will be the final score in this one. yanks are still in it.

  632. Onkel Bob

    Does K-Ram ever throw a fastball? 3 change-ups over the heart of the plate and batters are going to hammer it. Why would Jorge call that pitch selection is simply baffling. I suspect he have wanted the pitch outside and drifted over the plate

  633. Dimitri - 27 in '07

    I just accepted the fact. Today is not our day. Most of the damage are done by bloop hits.

  634. Rusty

    ok is there a f*cking record for amount of bloop hits in a single f*cking game??? We’re getting out a$$ handed to us with the most limp wristed cheap offensive push i’ve ever seen… drivin me f’n crazy…

  635. BBB

    Global, no Ohlendorf isnt proven but he and Villone both looked good today. So why use them both up in the same inning? Why not stretch them a little farther? No he absolutely has to give everyone a chance today.

    Torre Loss. Where’s Girardi?!?

  636. KQ

    We need better bullpen options for the playoffs. Edward Ramirez does not cut out to be a good option. He’s too inconsistent.

  637. BBFan

    Stop the cursing guys.
    Yanks still have 3 innings to bat and they will come back and win.

  638. WE MISS PAULIE

    Well, I guess we all know who the playoff relievers are now. If we make it.

  639. - - - -

    You miss the point, Global Warming. Putting aside that everything looks better in hindsight (e.g., what if Veras had struck out the side?), the question is if you are trotting out untested relievers, why not let Ohlendorf pitch another inning and then have Veras throw? The 1/3 inning makes no sense when there is a whole lot of ballgame left and not so much left in the bullpen.

  640. passer by

    How many more bloops are going to fall in for hits?? I can think of only 2 hits today that the bluejays hit hard. One by Big Hurt and the double by Adams.

  641. Global Warming

    “Global, no Ohlendorf isnt proven but he and Villone both looked good today. So why use them both up in the same inning? Why not stretch them a little farther? No he absolutely has to give everyone a chance today.

    Torre Loss. Where’s Girardi?!?”

    True, but I’d hold off the “Torre Loss” or “Fire Torre”.

    Remember when everybody wanted Farnsworth in and it was later found out that he had a stiff neck? Maybe Ross cramped up or something to that sort.

  642. Miller

    Its a damn shame. We really needed this one. I mean we need everyone, but especially this one.

  643. passer by

    f’in bloop hit bonanza

  644. Stuart

    here are the bullpen morons posting now…

    really, maybe this midgets can get guys out….

    they have 3 guys and 15 midgets. viz, joba, and mariano. the rest including edwar and the band of midgets stink..

    THEY STINK AND ARE A JOKE. 0 and 2 on a scrub, Wp, walk and then all the rest of the crap..

    No sorry BOB said they should keep ohlendorf in, why he wears high socks??what the hell has he done????

    there pen is pathetic..

  645. Wolf In Pinstripes

    I tuned in time to see us take the 6-3 lead and then watch Veras give the lead back like a hot potato. Amazing. What were they doing? Waiting for him to take _himself_ out of the game?

    Not pushing hard for the division title is one thing, but we still have a wild-card lead to protect. None of these games are anything we can just gamble on, especially following a loss last night.

  646. Stuart

    Ohlendorff looked good today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    really the guy pitched to 1 batter, you guys are literally morons..

  647. BBB

    Global: I know I am jumping the gun a bit; it’s not like we are going to see the cream of the crop of Toronto’s pen in the next couple innings either. We can still win, but it is extremely frustrating to feel that we must do so in spite of Torre’s poor in-game decisions. (Also I’m fasting today, making me not exactly the most tolerant/patient person in the world, lol.)

  648. fleas

    I guess Joe is trying to figure out who will be stable in the playoffs after winning the wild card. Looks to me like he gave up on the division while playing “guess who should lose the game for today”

    Unreal…

    Edwar and his 7.11 ERA can kiss my *bleep* too.

    What are we going to do if we get in to the playoffs???? Freaking pray for miracles??

  649. (-. . --. .- - .. ...- .. - -.-- .-. ..- .-.. . ...) .-.. . ...

    Miller
    September 22nd, 2007 at 5:48 pm
    “Its a damn shame. We really needed this one. I mean we need everyone, but especially this one.”

    Just curious as to what makes this game so special that we really need it? Torre’s usage of the pen today is definitely questionable. Villone got 2 outs and didn’t allow a baserunner and was taken out. The Ohlendoff pitches to 1 man and is taken out. That is definitely questionable. I agree the Yankees need to win games but no one game is not more important than the other. Just win baby which they still will probably do.

  650. Dr. Acula

    is there a full moon tonight?

    So much anger, angst, and pessimism, today.

    guys, we gotta save some energy for tonite’s Dice-BB roast.

  651. Bob

    Giambi is really starting to get on my nerves.

  652. tterba

    I love the yanks and the Torre era… but his bullpen management is terrible the last couple of years… and the JOBA rules are a joke at this point… bring him in to get one out two days in a row… do it now.. or you might not get into the playoffs to see if he can… we gotta play the drays – who drive us nuts and the O’s – who own the yanks this year… nothing is certain yet..

  653. BBFan

    There is no question (as Torre would day that Posada is a great hitting catcher. But his game calling is not great. No wonder some accomplished pitchers do not prefer to pitch to him and rather pitch to no-offesne backup catcher.

  654. Rusty

    I still like Edwar, he just needs to step up the conditioning and add a few mph on his fastball. Hes obviously not comfortable throwing it since hes given up so many homers with it – and the bugs bunny change isn’t gonna do much without a good fastball to mix it up with. Thats a plus plus change right there, i don’t think you let that go, he just needs to improve the rest of his pitches.

    Really, i’m not impressed with the bullpen today, but they weren’t awful – you take away the past balls and we’d probably still be in the lead, even with the bloops. the Jays are getting very very lucky with those cheap hits. Honestly feels like we’re playing the goddam Angels, who always seem to kill us with those shallow bloops and high inflield chops. Still plenty of time to take this one back…

  655. BBB

    “really the guy pitched to 1 batter”

    And he got him out. So why not let him pitch to another one?!?

    And what is the excuse for taking Villone out so quickly?

  656. NanjemoyEd

    Giambi is such a waste. I can’t believe we’ll have to suffer through another season of him next year.

  657. raymagnetic

    When the Yankees make the playoffs they will use less relievers. It’ll be Mo, Joba, Viz, and Farns(who hasn’t been as awful as most people think he is)Villone will probably be the lefty and Hughes will probably be the long man out of the pen. With their lineup they should be able to win a lot of games this postseason. Most teams only have 3 or 4 really good pitchers in the pen.

  658. daneptizl

    Shelley deserves some time over Jason now.

  659. Miller

    Melky needs to step it up

  660. Brandon

    where’s Andy Philips when you need him in a game like this

  661. Let's go Yankees

    I don’t care Ramirez how many Ks he has since he got called-up, I don’t have any faith in him from the beginning,I don’t want to see him in the postseason….

  662. Bob

    Pinch hit Damon

  663. Yankees Chick

    THE MELK-MAN!

  664. Miller

    Thank god

  665. Brandon

    MELKYYYY :D

  666. pat

    YEAH MELKY!!!!!!

  667. YankeeJosh

    We rag on Melky and he gets the game tying hit!

  668. Bob

    Nevermind :)

  669. Adam

    We don’t need this game. Torre is just seeing what he has in the bullpen when the games don’t matter. It sucks to lose, but at least you can understand what he’s doing today.

  670. raymagnetic

    Okay, another move I don’t understand. Take out your best firstbaseman in a close game to try to score the runner from second on a single in the 7th inning?

  671. BBB

    A DELIVERY FROM THE MELKMAN!!!

    Man how I’ve missed saying that!

  672. Rusty

    Bob – they had the shift on Giambi and he went to left field – AGAIN – which is a good piece of hitting. It just says alot about how the luck is shifting today – they keep hitting them where they ain’t and Giambi tries to hit it where he NEVER hits it, and still, Lind didn’t even have to move to catch that ball. Just bad luck.

    In other news: MELKY!!! (hope he breaks out of that slump now!)

  673. BBFan

    “Stop the cursing guys.
    Yanks still have 3 innings to bat and they will come back and win.”

    Game is tied and there is good chance we will win.
    Stop cursing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  674. Bob

    Sterling said Krazy Karl is warming up?

  675. Dr. Acula

    PRAISE-BE ‘da LECHE!!!

    Bombers n da air

    BOOM!! BOOM!! BOOM!!

  676. Global Warming

    Sweet Melky made me eat some crow. And the Doomsday crowd sulks back into the shadows.

  677. BBB

    Agreed, raymagnetic. Pinch running for Dougie confounded me too. Now who plays 1st, Wilson or Shelley?

  678. Brandon

    Let’s go Yankees
    September 22nd, 2007 at 5:57 pm
    I don’t care Ramirez how many Ks he has since he got called-up, I don’t have any faith in him from the beginning,I don’t want to see him in the postseason….

    ——————————————————–

    oh calm down do you see the bloop hit bonanza today… it’s as if whoever has medium power and a bad contact hitter today is your day

  679. mel

    Torre’s faith in Cabrera is rewarded.

  680. randy l

    “is there a full moon tonight?
    So much anger, angst, and pessimism, today.”
    i think it’s one strange day (and not just in baseball), but maybe it’ll turn again…. it just did. melky!!!!
    fasten your seatbelts folks. i think we’re in for a wild finish.

  681. passer by

    Calm down guys. I am not saying this just to put a positive spin on this. I honestly think, losing this game may be a blessing in disguise. If we have a realistic chance of catching the sox, we will be forced to go for the division. In that case we may or may not win the division but we sure will not be able to lineup our rotation. Dont get me wrong, I would like to win the division too. But that is not guaranteed. It is not even a 50-50. If we lose this game and the sox win tonight, we may have to give up on the division and then we can rest our guys (Jeter, Jorge etc).

    Having said that, I hate to lose this game or any game for that matter.

  682. BBB

    Cmon Bobby!!

  683. mel

    Hold, chip, hold, chip. Let’s go guys!

  684. BBFan

    “We don’t need this game. Torre is just seeing what he has in the bullpen when the games don’t matter. It sucks to lose, but at least you can understand what he’s doing today.”

    Unbeleivable. Saint Joe can do nothing wrong!!! That is why we have so many WSs in the last six years.

  685. passer by

    Sardinha scored 2 runs without doing a thing in 2 days

  686. YankeeJosh

    “Krazy Kyle now warming. Yikes.”

    The sad thing is he’s probably the best available option right now. Mo only threw 10 pitches last night so I’d suspect he’d be available for 1+ if needed.

  687. NanjemoyEd

    Toronto now leads the Yanks, 7 pitchers to 5.

  688. BBB

    something I’ve been meaning to ask for a while, is Brett Gardner injured or something? Otherwise why would he have not been called up to be the pinch runner?

  689. Dr. Acula

    _Sterling said Krazy Karl is warming up_

    what? the bullpen has a hot tub??

  690. Brandon

    ok we guarantee ourselves Alex in the 9th

  691. Miller

    bad move. badddddd move.

  692. Yankees Chick

    i hope thats exactly what the melk-man needed to bust him out of his slump!

  693. Brandon

    someone up there loved Wolfe yesterday will they today ?

  694. Yankees Chick

    MVP!!!! clutch?

  695. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    You know, my dad picks GREAT times to guilt me into visiting the cemetary…

    Still though, a squirrel crossed my path there!

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  696. Rusty

    Give Alex all the money he wants. Every penny.

  697. Miller

    Arod’s new nick name is Clutch McNasty-face

  698. TKinDC

    Just HUGE!!!!

    MVP MVP
    MVP MVP
    MVP MVP

  699. BBB

    Yeah Alex!!! MVP!!

  700. YankeeJosh

    Acula…line of the day!

  701. BBFan

    All that clapping must be making Alex happy and feel positive about staying in New York next year.

  702. Dr. Acula

    There!

    Thank you, AROD

    Can I get a “what, what” from da choir

    See, there is no substitute for CONFIDENCE!!

  703. TKinDC

    LMAO @ Miller!

  704. Brandon

    Matsui-San you owe me a run

  705. nate c.

    Rusty – i agree.

    just give him a new 250mm deal, keep him however you can

  706. Vader

    How’s that choke-rod????

  707. Defense matters

    here some the farns

  708. Brandon

    oh god FARNSY :(

  709. state of the Yanx

    There’s a real dilemma with Giambi. His skills have eroded almost to the point of being a hinderence and he’s on the books for 21M in ‘08. A bonafide squeeze.

  710. passer by

    I don’t think I have ever bashed or supported Torre. I dont usually indulge in it because, not matter what people think abt themselves or Torre, Torre still knows more abt BB than us. Definitely he knows more than I do.

    But today, I will defend him because I dont think he was wrong. A manager IMHO, should not react to just what is happening. He should react to what is happening and HOW it is happening. You dont pull a pitcher out just because he allowed 3 straight batters to reach on error, for example. If you look at last inning, Torre should’ve pulled Veras out as soon as he let the 1st 2 reach base. Then Veras struck out 2 batters and you cant pull him out there. After that you cant pull him out anytime before the Adam’s double because all of those hits could just as easily been outs. The only way Torre can pull Veras out is if he has somebody that is guaranteed to strike out the next batter or guarantee you that bloops off him wont fall in for base hits.

  711. BBB

    Farns in. Smoke em if you got em people!

  712. Miller

    Kyle has earned back some of my faith and respect over the last couple months hopefully he continues it.

  713. Yankees Chick

    Rusty – i hope Big Stein and the Cash Man agree!!! He is worth whatever he wants!

  714. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    …Unlucky there. C’mon Farnsworth, you can do this!

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  715. mel

    Veras & Ramirez were just setting up that MVP moment.

  716. BBB

    ucch

  717. Miller

    sorry same post

  718. TKinDC

    This would be funny if it wasn’t so sadly predictable.

  719. Brandon

    the bloop off K-RAM

    god dammit another blooper :(

  720. Dr. Acula

    Oh ratz, it’s Kyle

    I thought Cartman was warming up, no??

    http://tinyurl.com/ytdv3h

  721. Rusty

    Seriously. We’ve pissed away so much money on crap players who never panned out ( Brown, Pavano ) and even more players that i felt were good but not worth the money we were paying or the time we let them have ( Giambi, Shef ). So i’m hardly ever in support of big long term contracts for anyone – particularly when our farm system seems to be cranking our quality players again – but A-Rod? Unreal. The Natural. 1st Round HOF. Keep him in pinstripes no matter the cost.

  722. Vader

    Yankees Chick,

    If he wants to stay he will stay.

  723. gargoyle

    passer by

    My only question is why yank Ohlendorf after 3 pitches?

  724. BBFan

    For Giambi it is not just $21mil next year, there is $5mil option for 2009, so the total is $26 mil.

    Even if they have to eat about $16Mil, if any team is interested, they should trade him. He has a no trade clause, but may waive it to a West Coast team.

    I rather see they trade Giambi and keep Damon. Matsui should DH or learn to play 1B.

  725. Vader

    Ditto that, TKinDC

  726. Defense matters

    I agree “Clutch McNasty-Face” is his new name

  727. Brandon

    Farnsy doing what he does best, make the game exciting

  728. Joe M

    Can’t anybody throw strikes

  729. Yankees Chick

    farnsworthless…

  730. mel

    You need to take Kyle out now!

  731. BBB

    for the love of all that is holy. THROW A STRIKE!!

  732. Yankees Chick

    Miller… may i please hijack Clutch McNastyFace on my blog? i’ll credit you :)

  733. mel

    Is his fastball that straight?

  734. longtime

    so let me get this straight joba viz and mo that’s it for the bullpen?

  735. dmm

    this is exhausting to watch…even on mlb.com. I do not understand how the highs and lows. it’s like having manic depression

  736. Brandon

    BETEMIT !!!

  737. Yankees Chick

    what a catch!!!!

  738. YankeeJosh

    Wow, Betemit with a nice play!

  739. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    …WILSON!

  740. BBFan

    “Who will play 1B”

    Wilson Betemit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  741. TKinDC

    WILSON!!!

  742. BBB

    Nice catch Wilson!!!

  743. passer by

    “My only question is why yank Ohlendorf after 3 pitches?”

    gargoyle, I don’t know. I don’t even know, if he was right or wrong in doing that. Like I said, I dont usually judge Torre, because I do not know whats right or wrong unless it is very, very obvious.

  744. NanjemoyEd

    We’ve gotten so stuck with Giambi. I hope that Cash can talk him into accepting a trade over the winter. We should dump him even if we have to pick up 2/3 of his ‘08 salary, just to free up the roster spot.

  745. Yankees Chick

    i shall repeat: farnsworthless.

  746. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Come on Yankees, you can do this!

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  747. BBB

    Farnsworthless clearly didnt appreciate Betemit’s D there. Ingrate. :(

  748. Tanto

    Do you think Farnsworth realizes what a piece of garbage he is??? Save me Jeebus!!!!!

  749. Vader

    F@#$

  750. longtime

    this bullpen is pathetic

  751. raymagnetic

    Why won’t the Blue Jays just lose already? They are so very annoying.

  752. YankeeJosh

    I can’t kill Torre for today. He’s made a few questionable moves but he’s working with a very depleted bullpen. If the Yankees went down quietly yesterday 4-0, Joba, Viz and Mo nail this down and it’s an easy win.

  753. gayle

    garbage

  754. BBB

    F U Farnsworthless!!!

  755. Brandon

    damn you Betemit for ruining FARNSY’S day w/ that what looked to be game saving catch

  756. ron hall

    i really cant understand why torre likes to torture fahnsworthless so much?.Put him out of his misery let him go coach junior college

  757. BBB

    god, what an arse hat.

  758. Miller

    How could this have possibly happened????????

  759. PB in DC

    ugggg

    how many times do the bats have to come back?

  760. TKinDC

    I wish Torre would kiss Farnsy and say, “You are dead to me”

  761. mel

    2 runs 2 late.

    It sucks losing a game 3 different times.

  762. nate c.

    this is the most annoying team i have ever seen. what are they playing for? why do they care so much?!?!?!

    ugh. please lose today detroit

  763. BBB

    oh great idea Joe. Britton will make everything MUCH better! ugh.

  764. Russell W

    16 pitchers and you bring in Farnsworth? Are you nuts?

  765. BBFan

    Bats have to come back only one more time and they will….

  766. Bob

    Go F yourself Farnsworth.

    Seriously get this POS away from the team even if you have to eat his salary.

  767. Dean

    Kyle FarnsWORTHLESS

  768. YankeeJosh

    There’s nobody available out of the pen who could be seen as more reliable than Farnsworth. Joe’s only alternative would have been to use Mo for 2 and then give him tomorrow off.

  769. Stuart

    this bullpen is Tampa like… they do not have a guy besides the big 3 who can get 3 outs in a row..

    playoffs>>>>>>>>>>>

    they are not in yet……………….

    they need to win some games………..what a friggin joke………

  770. dmm

    this is such BS. Why is it we (novices) see that certain players just aren’t able to deliver and yet they still go into the game? Just incredible….we get into such a jam they have to bring in another sub-par pitcher to clean up the last guys mess.

    Sign AROD but get a real bullpen. The pitchers owe the team more. Oh and Farnsworth should never be allowed to suit up again. yeah i am disgusted…

  771. wutupg?

    look, stop the torre bashing- if you only had 3 reliable relief pitchers- all of which were used yesterday- and in an attempt to have their arms not fall off- you had to choose between:
    ramirez
    farnsworthless
    britton
    bruney

    what are you supposed to do?

  772. Yankee Magic

    Wow Kyle sucks..

  773. BBFan

    Igawa time…
    It is going to be great…..
    He will nail a post season spot with clutch pitching!!!!!!!!

  774. BBB

    Igawa?!? um…

  775. raymagnetic

    I guess Toronto is playing so hard for the “integrity” of the game. Seriously though could one team be so annoying? Do you the the Twins putting up any kind of fight these days? No!

  776. dmm

    omg igawa… see what i mean?

  777. Dr. Acula

    Torre is like a kid in the basement w/ a new lab set.

    That, and I guess Joe’s doctor told him to excercise more by walking to the mound.

  778. Defense matters

    look out its BBBBBBB-Igawa

    sorry guys even optimism might not help here

  779. BBB

    BBFan, from your lips to God’s ears, hopefully!

  780. YankeeJosh

    The bullpen isn’t quite as bad as it looks. The big guys just are unavailable because of last night’s mess. Viz, Joba and Mo are fine if we get to the playoffs. We just need to get there.

  781. Bob

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Igawa.

    Seriously someone just shoot me now, I can’t take this game anymore today. lol

  782. wutupg?

    if im torre,
    i don’t know who i am putitng on the playoff roster besides
    viz, rivera and chamberlain…
    maybe they really should consider putting kennedy in relief- at least he throws strikes!

  783. Stuart

    they have no guys who can get people out..

    it is staggering how bad they are..toronto lost there closer and there pen is 10 times better then ours..

    this is pathetic…..farnsworth could not get 3 guys out!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sorry Bob said the yshould have kept Ohlendorf in that was the key, a guy who is 25 and may be good but so far has done nothing is the key to truning the pathetic slop pitching staff around….903 runs scored and this team is fighting to get in the playoffs….

  784. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Igawa?

    Wow.

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

  785. Doreen

    raymagentic –

    Thanks for the giggle. That’s just what I’m feeling. What do they think they are — in a pennant race or something???

  786. ~Adam.

    So, A Rod will have to win the game a third time.

  787. mel

    I can only fault Torre for leaving Villone, Ohlendorf, and Britton in for so few outs. IF we even tie the game we’re left with Clippard and Mo? He knew we were thin.

  788. awesomeness

    Igawa’s baccckkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  789. dmm

    “look, stop the torre bashing- if you only had 3 reliable relief pitchers- all of which were used yesterday- and in an attempt to have their arms not fall off- you had to choose between:
    ramirez
    farnsworthless
    britton
    bruney

    what are you supposed to do?”

    Maybe they should Hughes should suck it up and work a few more innings.. he was doing better than the bullpen no?

  790. Brandon

    beaver ? :(

  791. Alex

    IGAWA!LUNA! Next on FOX!

  792. Stuart

    clowns they have not made the playoffs yet. they need 5 wins or Detroit losses, they have clinched nothing yet….

    Igawa is his only choice…..morons

  793. BBFan

    look, stop the torre bashing- if you only had 3 reliable relief pitchers- all of which were used yesterday- and in an attempt to have their arms not fall off- you had to choose between:
    ramirez
    farnsworthless
    britton
    bruney

    what are you supposed to do?

    Well, the point many are making was “why take out Villone and Ohlendorf when they were not in trouble?”

  794. raymagnetic

    Doreen I think Toronto is actually upset that they might never make it into the playoffs again. It’s very hard to be a team in the AL East right now if you are not named the Yankees or Sox.

  795. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Okay, it’s only two runs.

    We came back from four yesterday. We can do this!

    LET’S GO YANKEES! GET SOME RUNS AND WE CAN PUT MO IN!

  796. Dean

    Igawa sucks as well

  797. BBB

    ok i give up.

    most despicable bullpen management I’ve ever seen.

  798. kill-schil(ing)

    igawa? Is torre retarded? Britton has a decent outing and he brings in Igawa? What is wrong with him?

  799. raymagnetic

    So Britton comes in does his job and Torre puts in Igawa after 1 batter, and this makes since how?

  800. awesomeness

    alright, in play run(s), …..made my day

  801. dmm

    yep. its good to have him back. I feel better already.

  802. Jeter's future wife

    it’s the battle of whose bullpen stinks the most…. we are thin,,,it’s not Torre

  803. Bob

    There is no way Farnsworth would be on the PS roster is there?

    Although I have a feeling he’ll end up on it for some stupid reason.

  804. Stuart

    8 runs in 2 innings off our golden arms…

    Luna got a hit, he is the equivalent of Bobby Meacham but he got an RBI.

    The yanks have 3 arms the rest all SUCK ANYONE WHO thinks differently is in a dreamland a friggin dreamland…

    what a car wreck……………..

  805. george

    >>

    look, stop the torre bashing- if you only had 3 reliable relief pitchers- all of which were used yesterday-

  806. Doreen

    2 runs in 2 innings, but zero for the Jays in 1. this can be done.

  807. rogerk

    Farnsworth should never again pitch for the Yankees-anybody would be better in the post-season-how could torre leave him in when every pitch he threw in the zone was scorched-what a waste

  808. awesomeness

    getting the third out the old fashioned way, gotta make a move for igawa on the postseason roster at this point, the guy is lights out.

  809. BBB

    “Britton has a decent outing and he brings in Igawa?”

    Just like he did with Villone and Ohlendorf. What a farce.

    “What is wrong with him?”

    I’ve decided, it’s the green tea.

  810. Brandon

    well I’m guessing Torre and Farnsy + Igawa trying everything in thier power to get Alex the goat award today

  811. Jonathon

    I hate to say it…but they are going to have to break the Joba rules come the playoffs. There is noboby in that bullpen able to get guys out besides Joba, Mo and Vizcaino (sometimes). Everyone else is a liability. Joba will HAVE to pitch some back to back games…have to.

  812. Luigi 27 in '07

    there goes the division

  813. dmm

    Skipper should be fined for poor bullpen mgt. How many !@&*^%$ pitchers did he use and how many runs did they let up?

    Whoever said it was good to bring Igawa is smoking crack

  814. Alex

    If Joe Morgan were commentating:
    “See, that’s what I call winning baseball. Igawa there didn’t try to do too much, he just made his pitch and let the defense play behind him. Too many guys nowadays try to make the perfect pitch; Igawa here KNEW he could get the out.”

  815. Scooter

    Sigh. Giambi and Cano are a combined 0-7. We need them to wakeup!

  816. Bob

    ohh great Giambi’s up.

  817. mel

    Let’s go Jason! Earn your pay.

  818. pat

    Well, the point many are making was “why take out Villone and Ohlendorf when they were not in trouble?�

    Did they pitch well. Yes. But…they may have been one pitch away from imploding and then you’d be damning them too. Hindsight is always 20/20. You gotta play with the guys you got and today this is who we got.

  819. raymagnetic

    If the Yanks lose today this will be another loss you can put on Torre. His bullpen management in the 6th made absolutely no sense whatsoever. Villone should have been allowed to at least try to finish the 6th and then you have Ohlendoff pitch the 7th. Who knows how things would have turned out. Maybe Toronto still scores 7 more times but I doubt it.

  820. Jeter's future wife

    it doesn’t really matter. we’re basically in the playoffs, I don’t see DET resurrecting from Wildcard dead.

  821. TKinDC

    Another comeback coming here and another beverage

    Here’s to the greatest rollercoaster in sports –

    Cheers!

  822. Brandon

    if I’m Giambi take a sissy swing it’s working for everyone else

  823. BBFan

    It is time for Giambi to redeem himself….

  824. Jeter's future wife

    maybe Torre is having “tryouts” for the playoff roster

  825. BBFan

    I guess not…

  826. dmm

    Jeter’s future wife: what makes you so sure we are in the playoffs?

  827. Brandon

    everyone realize it’s that type of a game not 1 R scored by a HR, it’s sissy swing night

  828. Luigi 27 in '07

    im not gonna relax until they clinch, baseballs a funny game, you just never know

  829. BBFan

    “Did they pitch well. Yes. But…they may have been one pitch away from imploding and then you’d be damning them too. Hindsight is always 20/20. You gotta play with the guys you got and today this is who we got.”

    How do you know they would implode, given they were pitching good at that time? Would they have been worse than implosion that took place with the moves made?

  830. Jeter's future wife

    mets are up 7-1

  831. nyyfaninlaaland

    This is kinda like Borg vs McEnroe in that classic set at Wimbledon in the 70’s that was like 16-14.

    Except to look like this they’d have to serve underhand.

  832. TKinDC

    Is Wolf canadian for Farnsworth?

  833. Mike P. (Living in NH but in a NY State of Mind)

    Mark my words….A-Rod wil get a chance to win this one……

  834. Mike P. (Living in NH but in a NY State of Mind)

    Mark my words….A-Rod will get a chance to win this one……

  835. BBFan

    For the record, I do not necessarily quesiton Torre for the moves of a single game today. But, when it happens again and again and again, there is reason to question. It is not just the many people on this blog, but many respected people in media also say the same about Torre’s bullpen management.

  836. mel

    Can he do it twice?

  837. TKinDC

    Come on Leche! We need something here.

  838. pat

    How do you know they would implode, given they were pitching good at that time? Would they have been worse than implosion that took place with the moves made?

    That’s the point. Until it happens Torre doesn’t know what’s gonna happen while everyone on here has the luxury of second guessing after the fact. If they had kept pitching and done poorly, keeping them in would be second guessed too.

  839. Dean

    11-11 ~!!!!

  840. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    MELKMAN!

    Okay, so we win this in the bottom of the ninth.

    No biggie.

  841. Brandon

    IT’S SISSY SWING NIGHT IN YANKEE STADIUM !!!!

  842. gayle

    this game of baseball is crazy lets hope that Mo can restore some sanity

  843. Jeter's future wife

    dmm, b/c we’ll sweep the O’s again, for sure and take at least 2 from TOR, we’ll be fine. I’m absolutely sure we’re in. DET can’t resurrect from the dead, impossible!

  844. TKinDC

    That was something alright! WOW

  845. YankeeJosh

    Definitely Mo-time now.

  846. ~Adam.

    How many beers do you wanna bet, A Rod ends this thing in the ninth?

  847. Alex

    This is the dumbest game of the whole year.

  848. Bob

    MO NOW!!!!!

    No one else.

  849. raymagnetic

    So, I got 10 bucks that says the MVP hits the gamewinner bottom of the 9th, Yanks go home happy.

  850. Dean

    Booooooo~~ no more Igawa PLEASE!!

  851. Dimitri - 27 in '07

    Even when we catch a break, Melky has to do something to hurt the team. At least the game is tied.

  852. mel

    What a wild game. Let’s go guys.

  853. Jeter's future wife

    SEE THERE, we’re tied now! Mo is coming in next inning

  854. ~Adam.

    Forget signing free agent relievers… the Yanks should just put all their money into finding a way to clone Mariano.

  855. Scooter

    Can we go a game without retarded base running?

  856. Dean

    SEE YOU IGAWA~~ GO BACK TO AA~~

  857. raymagnetic

    I believe the Yanks will make the playoffs. They would have to really tank to miss out on the playoffs. Detroit won’t sweep the rest of their games I wouldn’t think and the Yankees will win at least 3 more times I would have to imagine.

  858. Luigi 27 in '07

    this is retarded

  859. raymagnetic

    Dimitri – 27 in ‘07
    September 22nd, 2007 at 6:48 pm
    Even when we catch a break, Melky has to do something to hurt the team. At least the game is tied.

    Ummmm didn’t Melky tie the game twice today?

  860. PB in DC

    some bad baseball at the Stadium today… Rivera should put an end to that…

  861. Brandon

    I want people to remember what type of game it is bloop hits are the only thing getting through unless your name is Alex.

    here comes Mo Mr. F’N Bloopers only beat me

    anyway

    *ENTER SANDMAN !!!* :D

  862. corsari

    I haven´t often seen games like these. What an ugly game. It´s hard to sit through this one.

    Maybe finally some decent pitching in the top of the 9th??? We can only hope.

  863. MiketheMike

    i say the worst,hard to watch the terrible pitching on both sides, this game is retarded

  864. Tucson Ken

    The abominable relief pitching curently being displayed by both teams is simply absolute proof there are probably 10 too many teams in MLB. It is now crystal clear that Hughes & Kennedy both need to be our bullpen in the postseason.
    At least Mo is now coming in.
    What is wrong with this official scorer? Is he totaly blind?

  865. YankeeJosh

    That was a bad baserunning play by Melky for sure but I can’t kill him for being a bit aggressive. It took a perfect throw back to get him. Having a runner in scoring position with two outs is so much bigger than just at first. Bad job by Melky, but I understand the agressiveness there.

  866. passer by

    This absolutely sucks. Yuck. This is the kind of game you dont even want to win. This is like charity.

  867. mel

    They just showed Farnsworth’s lowlights on Fox.

  868. Khoa

    I vote worst as well.

  869. Khoa

    Tucson, you’re right about the pen. At least Torre can have some more options in October. The current situation is not acceptable.

  870. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Dude, guys, I’m talking to my friend in Australia. He’s just started following baseball because of me, and this is the first game he’s seen.

    Mo gets the first batter out and his response is:

    “I already like him better than Farnsworth”

  871. YankeeJosh

    Matsui’s seemed a bit shaky on a few balls today. I definitely prefer Damon in Left defensively.

  872. randy l

    “i believe the Yanks will make the playoffs. They would have to really tank to miss out on the playoffs”
    the odds are higer than 100 -1 that the yankees will make the playoffs. whether they win or lose today,they are still in a commanding position.
    this feels bad though. on a day like today it’s hard to imagine this team doing well in the playoffs.

  873. BBFan

    “I for one am shocked – shocked! – that Krazy Kyle is botching up this inning. They should keep him off the playoff roster just to assure Torre doesn’t use him.”

    Looks like Pete, who is strong supporter of Torre, is also having enough of Torre moves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  874. pat

    Mussina better be ready to go 12 innings tomorrow.

  875. ~Adam.

    It’s official. John Sterling has crowned this the “Wildest Game of the Year”.

  876. mel

    Come on, Mo. One more.

  877. VOIII (try again)

    The Yankees should spend some money on a shrink for Farnsy. Maybe then they can harness that cannon attached to his right shoulder. Really is a shame he’s such a head case. Edwar is being used wrong his stuff is made for facing one or two batters in between a pair of hard throwers…Be nice to see him learn the splitter…or the cutter to make his fastball more effective and his change devastating.

  878. Khoa

    Is Farnsworth still under contract next year?

  879. Khoa

    LOL Adam

  880. Dean

    Now that’s how you DO IT!

  881. Yankee Fan in Boston

    Here’s the problem: the save situation for this game is the 8th, not the ninth. You gotta get Mo in for the 8th inning, to preserve the lead. If Mo has to go two, he has to go two.

    This is a must win game now. You can’t afford to lose this game. The resources you spent on this game, and last nights game are too much. Mo in both games, Joba in last nights, now 11-11 after giving up and retaking the lead all game long, how can you afford to lose it? Devastating loss, huge victory. One or the other.

  882. VOIII (try again)

    Doesn’t he have one more year?

  883. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    …and THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is why Mariano Rivera is the greatest of all time.

  884. Carmine

    Ramirez apparently has a slider that he hasn’t used on the big league level. Maybe Joba can help him develop it. He definitely needs another pitch to be effective. It’s very hard to have your best pitch be a changeup when you only throw 2 pitches.

  885. Brandon

    com’on lets win this before some crazy sh** happens

  886. mel

    Mo’s the master. I hope the $5M man was watching and learning.

  887. Khoa

    Time to drop the A BOMB!

  888. Samuel

    Go Mo. I love you

  889. Khoa

    Thats what I thought VOIII…i was hoping i was wrong

  890. Global Warming

    I wonder how it feels like to be Mo walking back to the dugout with all that bullpen incompetence sitting around him.

    God Bless Mo!

  891. Chris

    hey im not in the NY market, anyone know how i can watch this game???? fox and thier blackout rules blow

    anyone watchin on sopcast?

  892. YankeeJosh

    Yankee Fan in Boston

    I think that’s a valid point. Or at least have Mo ready for the first sign of trouble with Farnsworth. I’d have taken Mo for 2 today, knowing Vizcaino could go tomorrow.

  893. Carmine

    Is Vizcaino available today or is his arm still hanging by duct tape?

  894. Global Warming

    “Meanwhile, seriously, you have to admire Toronto. They beat Boston three straight, beat the Yankees last night in 14 and they’re playing this game hard as heck. I give them a lot of credit.”

    Huge contrast between them and Baltimore who clearly gave up on the season.

  895. randy l

    for those of you at the game, volunteers are being asked to line up behind the yankee dugout for pitching tryouts between innings.

  896. dmm

    Now that is what i call pitching.

    Thank you God for Mo

  897. VOIII (try again)

    I wonder if Goose can still pitch ;)

  898. Carmine

    Chris:

    The sopcast stream wasn’t working for me, but via the same P2P site, I’m watching on ESPN Taiwan.

  899. ~Adam.

    “Or at least have Mo ready for the first sign of trouble with Farnsworth.”

    Haven’t you learned anything? THe first sign of trouble IS Farnsworth warming up.

  900. -. . --. .- - .. ...- .. - -.-- .-. ..- .-.. . ...

    Yanks should just save the arms and forfeit this game now. They should’ve done that last night, when it’s determined that they can’t win this type of games.

  901. Khoa

    Chris, i’ve been able to watch it in the past by changing proxy settings for my Web browser. I use firefox on a mac and its located in preferences. there are a bunch of lists on google that have proxy numbers you can enter. sounds complicated but not really. just search proxy list.

  902. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Of course it comes down to this.

  903. VOIII (try again)

    I would question why Toronto hasn’t played like this all year? Isn’t that what they are supposed to do? Why play hard when they can be spoilers and not when they can be contenders? Credit no way….Classless jerks…

  904. Will

    A-Rod Walk off…?!

  905. Chicago Dave

    Wow, just got home and I thought for sure this game would be over by now. Come on, Yanks, we can’t afford another tough loss! Someone please crank one out of here NOW!!!

  906. Khoa

    ABOMB time

  907. Mike P. (Living in NH but in a NY State of Mind)

    Let’s go A-Rod!!!

  908. YankeeJosh

    MVP. That is all.

  909. Brandon

    Matsui-San you owe me a run dammit !!

  910. Mike P. (Living in NH but in a NY State of Mind)

    That works too!!! RBI chance for Matsui!!

  911. BBFan

    What a complete player is A-Rod!
    How can we let him go at all?

  912. Dr. Acula

    Can we put AROD in the Hall, now ??

    I mean, why wait.

  913. mel

    Nice, let’s go Matsui. Detroit down in the 1st.

  914. Khoa

    It feels a little wrong saying “A-BOMB” with Matsui batting after ARod.

  915. Chicago Dave

    At least A-Rod is coming out of his slump!

  916. Bob

    please end this game. I can’t take extras today.

  917. Tucson Ken

    If we don’t score here in the ninth they’ll have to use Guidry in tenth. MVP MVP MVP- Come on Hideki, I can’t watch tis nonsense any more. Put me out of my misery.End tis nonsense now. Please.

  918. Chris

    carmine:

    which site u refering too?

  919. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    ….

    A win in extra innings would be really nice. optimistically speaking.

  920. Chicago Dave

    Who the hell is left in the bullpen? Does anyone have the list?

  921. Bob

    Sonof…. now what?????????????????????

  922. WE MISS PAULIE

    So, whos it going to be?

  923. dmm

    Another ’see-saw’day in the Bronx. This was a bad time to quit smoking.

  924. BBB

    sigh

  925. WE MISS PAULIE

    Chase Wright? DeSalvo?

  926. Carmine

    Gameday says Jeff Karstens.

  927. Khoa

    These games are losses regardless of the score. Extra inning up and down games are not what we need at this point…especially when we lose em. F’n a.

  928. wutupg?

    karstens

  929. BBB

    Karstens.

  930. Chicago Dave

    OK, Josh Towers is complete garbage. We HAVE to be able to get to him, right?!

    Another thing…Is there any way Giambi bats next inning? It has to be Duncan time!!!

  931. BBB

    Wondering what would have been wrong with Clippard; PLEASE Karstens make me regret that I am pining for T-Clip right now!

  932. randy l

    karstens? we need some “atom” balls.

  933. WE MISS PAULIE

    We’ll win this.

  934. Carmine

    This has been quite a week for the Blue Jays. I guess they feel they have something to prove as they’re better than just being spoilers, but not quite the Yankees or Red Sox. It does make you wonder, though, why they wouldn’t play like this all year. They definitely have a decent enough roster to be better than their record shows.

  935. Brandon

    AAAA – Karstens

  936. Bob

    they’re gonna score 7 runs this inning.

  937. dmm

    this is horrendous.

  938. raymagnetic

    Detroit’s losing 3-0 already!

  939. Chicago Dave

    If Jeff can hold them here we have to get to Towers (or whoever) in the bottom of the inning. I don’t see how the Yanks can get through that many more innings unscathed with the pitchers they have left.

  940. Bob

    At least they Royals are up 3-0 in the 1st.

  941. -. . --. .- - .. ...- .. - -.-- .-. ..- .-.. . ...

    Karstens? Game over. Too bad they had to waste Mo for this 5 hour disgrace, not to mention ARod’s contributions.

  942. Chicago Dave

    raymagnetic – That’s cold comfort considering KC had a 4-0 lead against the Tigers just the other day (and still ended up losing)…

  943. Vinny 5743

    These are the Jay’s playoff games. They won’t get into playoff’s so they want to feel like their in it.
    They aren’t making the Yankees look too good, that’s for sure.

  944. Pleased end this

    Our pen is garbage

  945. randy l

    except for mariano, with all these relievers coming in, this feels like the end of a spring training ” b” game.

  946. Yankee Fan in Boston

    The reason karstens is in there is because he *is* a long-relief guy. IT’s not a white flag, but it’s a “I’ve got to go with an inning-eater, and hope my $200M lineup can get 1 run before they do.”

    It’s a move that had to be made, but probably without some duress.

  947. Mike P. (Living in NH but in a NY State of Mind)

    Oh No not Zaun again!

  948. Bob

    This is not our pen.

  949. Khoa

    Well, at least Bruney’s unavailable right?

  950. Chris

    carmine whats the address or the link to the espn taiwan feed?

  951. Vinny 5743

    They’re in it. Typo.

  952. Bob

    Karsten’s is in for the same reason Towers is in.

    they stink and this is the role they have…last ditch effort guys.

  953. little m

    The Yankees need to get their act together

  954. Captain America

    It’s just a matter of time before someone hits one of those fair.

  955. Carmine

    http://www.myp2p.eu/MLB.htm

    You have to download the player for ESPN Taiwan. It’s the link that says Uusee.

  956. Bob

    oh he’s gonna give up runs, it’s a guarantee.

  957. dmm

    Khoa- LOL on that A-BOMB quip

  958. Vinny 5743

    Zaun always hurts us. He’s due to K.

  959. Vinny 5743

    GOOD !!!!!!!

  960. Bob

    Detroit already got 1 run back.

  961. Carmine

    I really wish Karstens was better at throwing borderline pitches. Ahead 1-2, there’s no reason to have to throw low-middle.

  962. Pleased end this

    Hill scares me right here

  963. Bob

    Uh oh Aaron Hill(enbrand)

  964. Vinny 5743

    YEAH BABY WOO HOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  965. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    LET’S GO YANKEES!

    MELKY! WHAT AN ARM!

  966. BBB

    Thank you Karstens!

    Now let’s WIN this!!!

  967. gayle

    HUGE!!!!! I was just about to type that I was surprised that they didnt put in a pinch runner for Stairs who is not the fastest guy in the ballpark

  968. YankeeJosh

    Holy crap! I really thought Stairs would score and on live look that he’d be just safe!

  969. Dr. Acula

    More Leche, PLEASE!!

  970. Bob

    PHEWWWWWWWW!

  971. Vader

    Yahhhhhhh!!!!

  972. BBB

    And thank you Melky as well, haha whoops, YOU DA MAN!

  973. mel

    Who was saying that outfield assists were an insignificant stat?

  974. Dr. Acula

    Gayle-

    did you go to the game today?

  975. Bob

    Good thing they didn’t pinch hit Damon for him.

  976. Brandon

    man F*** this game !!! I’m going nuts here !!!

  977. Khoa

    hiphipJORGE! Lets get this over with.

  978. Vinny 5743

    Cano made the better throw. Anyone but Stairs running and they score on that.

  979. longtime

    i guess that was a good inning for one of our relievers

  980. Chicago Dave

    Jorge is SO DUE for a homer it’s not even funny…

  981. Khoa

    Theres a reason to not start Damon in Oct. exactly what pete was saying in his earlier post.

  982. Carmine

    Thanks to Matt Stairs for being fat.

  983. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    JIP JIP JORGE!

    Okay Yanks, BRING HIM HOME!!

  984. Vader

    Hip Hip

  985. YankeeJosh

    Posada! Pinch run here? I’d consider it.

  986. Bob

    FINISH IT NOW!!!!!!!

  987. Chris

    sweet i got it workin, thanks carmine….cant understand a lick, but mute works well

  988. Khoa

    …JORGE!

  989. Go NYR

    Assists are only good if the runners run on you. Not a great way to tell OF arms.

  990. Carmine

    As a sidenote, Jeff Karstens reminds me of Benicio del Toro.

  991. Bob

    They’re walking Giambi?

    Fools. LOL

  992. BBB

    IBB-ing Giambi?

    Make em pay Robbie!

  993. Vader

    Cano needs to lay one here

  994. Go NYR

    Still..GO LECHE!!!

  995. Carmine

    Yeah, same here. I actually just listen to them anyway.

  996. Vader

    lay one down here

  997. Bob

    He’s not a good bunter.

  998. 13

    It is really bad when you have to beg for a hit… anything… just get this game over with, it is most painful. in fact last two games hurt.

  999. mel

    GO NYR,

    Thanks for that.

    I still feel that Melky will be the POG IF we win.

  1000. Khoa

    You might be right Dave…only a matter of time to get to Towers

  1001. Go NYR

    damn this is a hell of a game.

  1002. Brandon

    it’s that type of game , I’d bunt too

  1003. Bob

    no pinch runner for Giambi?

  1004. Carmine

    Kinda weird to walk Giambi to face Cano. But it does set up the double play.

  1005. Vader

    That will work

  1006. Bob

    just as good a s a bunt.

  1007. Go NYR

    No PR for Giambi because his run means nothing.

  1008. Khoa

    good question bob. whos avail?

  1009. BBB

    Got the runners over. Cmon Wilson, you can do this!!

  1010. randy l

    posada at second, giambi at first. i guess a double steal is out of the question. cano is a lousy bunter. too bad we didn’t have cairo on the roster. a sacrifice bunt would be nice right now.

  1011. Vader

    Giambi means nothing

  1012. Bob

    was thinking about breaking up a DP though.

  1013. Go NYR

    come one betemit!!!!

  1014. YankeeJosh

    I’d rather have a better contact hitter up here than Betemit.

  1015. Bob

    horrible at bat horrible

  1016. Go NYR

    damn wilson! you have to make contact there.

  1017. I love Joba

    I’m really tired of Betemit.

  1018. Khoa

    if Wilson cant get it done, guess who gets a shot on offense?

  1019. Yankees Chick

    MELKY! how about that?! 3 at-bats in a row, 5 rbis!!

  1020. Rebecca--27 in 07! Nothing beats Optimism!

    Okay.

    Guys.

    Go back and read the top of this thread.

    Enjoy a laugh.

    I’m off to order dinner and blog.

  1021. YankeeJosh

    Leche! Great job by Melky. Huge win, as the playoff magic number drops to 4!

  1022. ron hall

    its ovah

  1023. randy l

    are suicide bunts illegal now in baseball?

  1024. Bob

    THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1025. Phil - 27 in '07

    MELKY!!!!!

  1026. Vader

    LECHE!!!!

  1027. Dr. Acula

    They’re MOBBING MELKY!!!!

  1028. I love Joba

    yankees win

  1029. dmm

    AMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

  1030. mel

    Cabrera is no doubt the Player of the Game. Good for him.

  1031. 13

    Melky came through!!!

  1032. BBB

    I LOVE YOU MELKY WITH ALL THE LOVE MY HEART CAN HOLD!!!!!!!!

    Woooooooooooooo THE MELKMAN DELIVERS theee Yankeees WIN!!!

    I could not possibly love Melky any more!!!!

  1033. Dimitri - 27 in '07

    I take back any negative things I said about Melky. He’s the man!

  1034. TKinDC

    WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Where is that SOB dave that bashed Melky for the first 5 hours of the game?

    How you like Melky now bihatch????

    Way to go YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1035. Mike

    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

  1036. Khoa

    Ah….MAZE….ING.

  1037. Bob

    The beers will taste much better tonight now.

    Have a good one all.

    And Pete, good luck recapping this one for the paper.

  1038. randy l

    now that was a nice relaxing game.
    MELKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1039. Pleased end this

    KC up 4-1 top of 2

  1040. dmm

    Thank you God, even though we don’t deserve it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1041. NanjemoyEd

    OMG!

    Is that Guidry I see warming up out there for the 11th?

    And Whitey Ford stretching to get ready for the 12th??

  1042. Yankee Fan in Boston

    One to always eat my own words, evidently (a word sports interviewers wake up in cold sweats over, tell them Pete) Melky batting first was how we won this game. It started so long ago, it really feels like two games ago. Talk about a one man show. The good, the bad, the ugly, the game winner, Melky did it all.

    I love baseball.

  1043. Brandon

    SISSY SWING NIGHT !!!!

    MELKYYYYYYYY !!!!!

    LATINOS UNIDOS !!!! :D

  1044. Vinny 5743

    All I can say is wow.

  1045. Doreen

    Terrible game; FANTASTIC ENDING!!!!

  1046. BBB

    Melky Melky Melky WOOOOO!!!

    THIS KID IS THE MAN!!! Next pet I get I am naming after him!!

    And it is SO MUCH SWEETER that the win came off Towers after that crap he pulled on Alex. See A-Rod Melky’s got your back!!

    WOOOOOOT Melky 4 Prez!

  1047. Vader

    You’ve got to love Melkys’ Jimmy Super Fly Snuka impersonation going up the line.

  1048. Yankees Chick

    i guess melky has shown us all not to second-guess torre’s decision to put him in the leadoff spot ;)

  1049. Vince

    Gracias a dios, Leche!

  1050. mel

    Joel Sherman of the Post sitting for Suzy. Making a comment that in a game like this all kinds of story lines, but he had a feeling that this game’s story hasn’t written itself yet. I’ll bet he’ll write about Melky. We won that game 3 times. Too bad it only counts for one. We needed that win. Awesome.

  1051. Doreen

    Rebecca – LOL! And Syracuse won a big one, huh?

  1052. mike

    KRAZY game, but a good one…….everyone contributed (except middle relief) and should be a good up lift for the yanks

  1053. BBB

    Melky says, “how ya like me now Steve Phillips?!”

    4th outfielder my elbow! ME GUSTA LA LECHE!!!!

    Sit the eff down Steve Phillips….and Josh “beyatchface” Towers!!! MELKY like whaaaat!!?!?

  1054. dmm

    a beer would be good right about now. OK TEAM see ya all tomorrow for round #3 of this Great North American Slugfest!!!!

  1055. Vader

    Four more

  1056. Chicago Dave

    You know, I loved Betemit at first, but now he does nothing but strikeout. I mean, seriously, I’ve never seen such an automatic “K” in my life!

    Thank god we won this game…A huge win!!! YEAHHH!!!!

  1057. Scooter

    Yes Melky came through, but the player of the game is A-Rod. No argument.

  1058. little m

    THAT’S what I’m talking about!!! The Melkman delivers!!!!

  1059. Vinny 5743

    Both teams battled with practically everything they had. Got to give credit to the Jay’s for never laying down like the Orioles did. We needed this win for a mental boost.

  1060. Chicago Dave

    Now if KC can actually hold their lead…

  1061. Uncle Vito - †his ¡s ®eall� mÊ

    I will admit that I was 100% wrong questioning Melky’s placement in the lineup….there…I said it…BUT…Boston Loses tonight and we are headed for the division lead STILL by the end of play Monday Night….with the Dice-BB and WhiffleMan pitching the next 2 games, Tampa should put up 20 !!!

  1062. gayle

    Acula no game for me today Yom Kippur. Great win for this team although the last two games have pretty much decimated our pullpen for tomorrow the pickings are pretty slim down there for tomrorow and I am sure Mo will NOT be avalable. Moose needs to pitch li8ke he has th epast two outings and go deep and the bats need to continue from what they did today.

    BY the way the Scooter tribue looks loike it will be pretty moving accoring to Yankees.com. Yogim, Reggie, Bill White (have not seen him in ages), Scooter’s family, video tribute, wreath at the monumennt etc

  1063. rbizzler

    Looks like Melky ’sorted out CF’ for Torre today. I love this blog b/c the negative nancy’s pick out someone every day to rip and that guy usually has a big day. Today the award goes to Melky, who was harangued by the armchair managers and delivered with a variety of ‘clutch’ plays.

  1064. JRVJ

    BBB,

    You may not know this, but in Spanish, “Leche” can be a slang term for sperm.

    So saying, “Me gusta la leche” might have a meaning you’re unaware of.

  1065. Stuart

    the Pen stinks that is a BIG problem..

    Melky is a good player. The guy is 23 yrs old and has 70 RBI’s with 8HR’s.

    he will improve for yrs…Is he going to be great I doubt it but he is a legit major league player…

  1066. BBB

    I am in absolute heaven right now. Maybe my reactions are amplified cause I’m lightheaded from fasting but I love Melky so much I am just buggin out!!

    All the haters who said he was no good. All the “experts” who said he’d never amount to anything. All the brainiacs who said we should have traded him. He has proved them all wrong SO many times, and not a one sweeter than today. It feels so unbelievably good to see him have this success.

    What a great win!!! Thank you MELKY, yous my man!!!!!

  1067. Chicago Dave

    gayle – Of course, the Jays’ pen is now pretty gassed, too. Also, it looks like one of their best relievers, Downs, will now be unavailable for the rest of the series.

  1068. BBB

    JRVJ: Wow, not only was I not aware of that, but I had “me gusta la leche” as my AIM away message for many, many months, lol. Thanks for the heads-up…can’t believe no one ever clued me in until now!

  1069. pat

    5-1 Royals

  1070. Mysterjc

    Holy Cow!!!

  1071. Vinny 5743

    I hope they win one for the “Scooter” tomorrow.

  1072. JRVJ

    Well, I should be frank on this: I can’t guarantee that “Me gusta la Leche” means “I like Sperm” in all Spanish speaking countries, but it sure does here in Panama (and at least in a couple of countries I know of).

    So it could be that (a) The Spanish speakers that you know don’t know that expression;

    (b) The Spanish speakers that you know are not as gutter minded as I am (:-)).

  1073. TKinDC

    ROFLMAO@ “me gusta la leche” meaning that –

    Sorry I took french or I would have warned you BBB. That is hysterically funny.

  1074. Pleased end this

    When was the last time the Yankees scored 12 runs without hitting a single home run. Kinda of hard to do. As long as we win i’ll take em any way we can get em.

  1075. Khoa

    JRVJ, i was wondering when someone was gonna catch on to that. working in a kitchen during my youth, i picked up several of the more flavorful Spanish terms :-)

  1076. 161st & River Ave, The Bronx

    They’ll be a lotta arms iced down in the trainer’s room tonight.
    Hold on you Royals and how about some hot bats against Matsuzaka you Rays…

  1077. dale d

    bbb- not to worry
    almost everything has two or three meanings in Spanish.
    but do be carefull around the words leche,mama and dale as in dale duro

  1078. ray

    Vito
    Get used to being wrong…especially with your prediction that Tampa Bay gets 20 runs next two games. What a joke! Through five innings they have 2 runs…guess they didn’t get your memo.

  1079. DCJim

    Today’s Nevermind Post Award:

    “I can’t fathom why Joe would place a hitter who currently is 3 for 38 over his last forty at-bats in the lead-off spot.”

    Joe Torre can fathom.

  1080. Jaewon

    def. i record breaking # of posts in one game Mr. Pete:
    34 POSTS
    IN ONE GAME
    CRAZY

  1081. 56Bomber

    Just got back from the stadium… got there at 11:30 AM – sat thru the rain delay and all 10 innings. I’m too exhausted to read thru all the games posts but I’ve got to share a story about Kyle Farnsworth. Now I suppose he got lit up again (deservedly) in this blog like he did on the mound but what he did during the rain delay was beyond anyone’s expectations. He stood in the constant rain for well over 90 minutes (no exaggeration) signing autographs while no other player from either team was anywhere in sight. He was literally standing in a puddle near the area where the tarp is usually kept and must have signed over 200 autographs. He patiently took the time to wipe off the rain from the balls (and whatever) was handed to him, so that he could sign a dry area on the item. After the towel he had was drenched, he was drying the items on his uniform. Now believe me, I’m not a Farnsworth fan, but seeing him standing in the pouring rain signing autographs made me feel pretty good about the guy. At least until the 8th inning.

  1082. Mel

    Boston choking their lead!

  1083. Shirley

    56Bomber-
    A great story about Farnsworth. All I have seen on TV is his inconsistent pitching performance, which could be horrendous sometimes. It’s nice to know more about a player from a different perspective.

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