A celebration … then a reunion?
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Interesting scene at Fenway Park last night. Once the Red Sox beat the Twins, thousands of fans stuck around to watch the end of the Yankees game on the scoreboard.
When the Yankees had lost (Edwar Ramirez, 8.55 ERA), the celebration started. The Red Sox had not won the division since 1995 and were thrilled.
Was it a little over the top? Probably. But the Yankees were out of hand when then they celebrated clinching the wild card. It’s what teams do.
Baseball is such a long season that when you get a chance to celebrate, you take it.
Now both clubs have a chance to rest, regroup and get ready for the first round. It would be a surprise at this point if the Red Sox and Yankees didn’t meet again in the ALCS. The Angels and Indians are formidable teams but the two best teams are the two old rivals.
“Let them celebrate,” one of the Yankees said last night. “They earned it. But we’ll see them again.”
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I am 1st one? cool!
If Yanks pitching can hold on, they should win over CLE
Whatever happens,no matter what occurs,we must all bow our heads and say this fervent prayer……..PLEASE DEAR GOD, NO RONAN TYNAN…….I have not seen much of my fellow Irishman at the Stadium this year,perhaps that is why we resurrected our season,but please,do refrain from asking this JINX from singing at any playoff game.Since the tragic events of 9-11-01,he has sung at the Stadium numerous times…….and we havent won diddly ever since.Lets break this curse of Ronan Tynan!!!!!
The Red Sox did something they haven’t done in quite sometime. I can respect that. I don’t think the Yankees celebration was over-the-top. It was on point given the season they have had. They did something that was improbable.
I feel bad for Willie Randolph. Poor guy.
I just hope Torre is taking notes this last week with a pencil. We cant trust Mussina,Giambi and Ramirez come playoffs. Olendorf and Meinktavich have deservidly beat out those guys and Hughes has pitched much more consistant than Mussina. Like Solo said about the goaltending, time to live in the present and not the past. Torre needs to do whats right for once.
No matter how good Angels or Indians are, it’s almost like destiny that we’ll see the red sox again in ALCS. Bring it on.
Time to bring 27 to the bronx
Let’s hope the Mets will keep falling and won’t make the playoffs. Reporters must be clamoring for this to happen since such a collapse would make a terrific story. But being this year’s Cardinals, the Mets are already preordained to win it all now: *NEW YORK METS, THE CHAMPIONS OF BASEBALL 2007* — bet your life’s savings on it.
In no way over the top, sounds like a wee bit of jealousy, maybe you need some sleep Pete.
how insane is the N.L.
if the phillies and mets lose their next two games and the rockies win the next two, the team with the 3rd best record in the league wont make it to the playoffs. Insane!
Jeter/Bernie have said it’s important to celebrate making the playoffs to show the new guys that it this is what they play for and to not take it for granted.
If their closer elects to make an ass out of himself by dancing on the mound in spandex with a case of beer on his head, so be it. We already know from his quotes about “not being 100% into it” vs. the Yankees what he’s all about.
This time, let’s complete the sweep!
I too expect the Mets to find some way to recover. You can almost count on Charlie Manuel to make some catastrophic decision or for the Phillies themselves to find some way to blow it. I know Cubs and Red Sux fans tend to fatalism because they like to imagine their teams cursed franchises. But the Phillies belong in the select company of teams who never miss an opportunity to forsake an opportunity. My prediction: Phillies lose today; Mets win. They both win tomorrow and the Mets beat them in a playoff game on Monday, although I have no inkling who the Mets would pitch. Sosa, I gather.
BTW, ANYONE A BIT CONCERNED ABOUT MO’S PERFORMANCE LAST NIGHT? IT WAS PROFOUNDLY UNSETTLING TO SEE HOW LITTLE TROUBLE RIGHT-HANDED BATTERS COULD HANDLE MO’S TWO-SEAM FASTBALL OUTSIDE AND TAKE IT TO RIGHT-FIELD.
Look, there’s no one I trust more or for whom I feel more gratitude than Mo. But he’s not invincible anymore because he’s lost about 2-3mph in velocity on both the cutter and the two-seamer. This off-season, I hope he perfects that change-up he has been toying with during the past two Spring Trainings. With a change up in his repetoire, Mo could remain the game’s elite closer for another 3 years.
Spandex? oh no
Enoch:
Did Papelbon really do that?
Lemme guess, Youkilis was sitting in the stands with the fans downing some Sam Adams being a “regular guy” at Fenway last night.
And Varitek probably came out dressed in his giant letter “C” costume and took pictures with all the kids.
kill Schill: Relievers, especially closers often have trouble when there’s nothing on the line.
Rivera’s the guy I want up there in ninth inning, game seven.
It’s time for Joe Torre to think with his head and not with his heart.
Ross Ohlendorf and Doug Mientkiewicz should be on the playoff roster. If Torre has any intention of making a case to manage in the Bronx again, he’ll go with what will do best to make No. 27 a reality.
The Yankees celebrartion was not over the top Pete. It was mostly the youngsters doing the excessive celebrating and the Yanks deserved to celebrate from coming back from where they did. Just about everybody counted them out, they deserved to act like kids for a few minutes.
Speaking of Yankees vs. Red Sox, it seems clear to me that Clemens is on his last legs, and is trying to coax one last magical month out of those legs, his right arm, head and heart. If he does so, and contributes a great deal to another Yankee WS ring, then calls it quits, do you think that would put a dent in the notion that he has to go into Cooperstown with a B on his cap?
I finally got a chance to wear my ‘Red Sux’ t shirt out to a bar last night. I was literally inside for 2 minutes and got flipped off.
And a testament to how classy most Sox fans are, the guy sent his 4 yr old kid to come tell me that the Yankees suck.
Kill-Schill(ing)–You’re not the only one. I think Rivera should use his changeup more often.
The Yanks were celebrating for just making the play offs not the wild card. They came back a long way just to get in so who cares about the division. They deserve to celebrate just like every other team does. Let those morons in Boston do whatever they want..everyone knows they always have to look like fools, be over the top and the center of attention.
I totally agree with hopefully Torre will do the right thing. Hughes should be starting not Mussina who had absolutely nothing yesterday. Mien. plays first and Giambi is a bench player. Olendorf on the roster. He has really good stuff and he has shown poise. Veras is wild, Ramirez has proved with his 1 pitch he has to be perfect otherwise he is smacked around…ohh just like Mussina. Ramirez will nopt get anyone out in the play offs.
Cashman should order Torre to start Hughes in Game 3 if Clemens can’t pitch, not Mussina. How is that any different than giving Torre the “Joba Rules”? What’s Torre gonna do,
quit before during, or after the A.L.D.S? No. ‘He quitting after the postseason ends whenever it does? No. He’ll grin and bear it. His contract is up after this season whenever it ends.
If Mussina doesn’t like it, he can ask for a trade I’m sure Cashman would be happy to make. Make a list of N.L. teams you want to go to Mike, only no Mets or Phillies cuz you’re not having the comfort of pitching in N.Y. with the chance to face the Yankees twice a year in the regular season (interleague games) or close to your home in PA.
Bad loss last night. I can’t remember a year with so many rough losses. Congrats to the red sox. Strangely enough, I feel like the red sox are the team we have the best chance of beating.
Why so bitter toward Mussina? He’s not TRYING to suck.
“Why so bitter toward Mussina? He’s not TRYING to suck.”
That’s the scary part, Andrea.
The way they celebrated you would have thought they hadn’t made it to the playoffs in years…oops I mean a year.
Well congratulations to the Red Sawx and their fans for a long year, going wire to wire. But now the real season starts and it doesn’t matter how you played all year its how you finish.
So lets go Yankees and bring us back to the Canyon of Heroes….27 in 07.
Let’s hope Bob Sheppard’s laryngitis clears up soon so he can be back behind the Stadium microphone for the postseason. Nobody like him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Sheppard
Enjoy this week Yankee Fanooskies! The team did good this year.
But I have seen the future and it is a Red Sox vs. Indians ALCS.
The Fearless……………………..FORE…..casssss…..terrrrrrr.
Useless info for the day:
When the Yankees are televised on My 9 we always tease that they are going to lose, doesn’t matter who they play. In 2007
My 9
Useless info for the day:
When the Yankees are televised on My 9 we always tease that they are going to lose, doesn’t matter who they play. In 2007
My 9 8-13
Yes 81-49
ESPN 5-1
Fox 3-6
We call it the Kim Jones Factor. They play better when they know they have to answer to Kim.
OOPs
76-48 on YES
Sorry your boys are goin down 3-straight to the Indians…you really belive they can beat CC & Caromona? Plueeze. All you have to do is get in your pen early—game over. And, If i was you I’d be concerned about Mo. Congrats on making it, but game over, sorry not enough piching
I wouldn’t want to have to answer to Kim Jones either!
I was wearing my new Hot Joba t-shirt, and got compliments on it.
Quick turn on the Mets John Maine is throwing a NO hitter. Not that I want to jinx it or anything. I don’t know if you heard me right, a NO HITTER!!
UGh, I cant watch that game, it is going to make me ill. 9-0 lead now. GO PHILLIES!! You control your own fate, just win baby!!
Benches clear in Queens.
With this no hitter, John Maine is in serious consideration for the NL Cy Young, while David Wright has already won the NL MVP. I have not compared the numbers, but David Wright must have way better numbers than A-Rod.
Across I would assume you are joking. John Maine has been horrible the second half of the season. And David Wright, he can’t hold a candle to Alex.
Not being a mets fan, I just realized that this is the first and only no-hitter in Mets history. WOW. What an accomplishment. Nicely done John Maine!
It won’t happen. Take it to the bank.
And hopefully what they are doing is too little too late. Phillies control their fate!
I’m scared.. and I will tell you why.
Going into the playoffs I am asking myself both our strength and weaknesses. Quite frankly, I have had this feeling of perpetual doom all season. So maybe I am not the most optimistic of the bunch, but the Yankees sure have proved me –I’m not alone here– wrong by even getting to the playoffs with the awful holes in their performance this season. Yes, they have come back from the dead and threw it right in my face and thankfully so, since I take it way to personal when Yankees blunder.
I am not going to go off on a statistical tangent here.. but I do want to make some observations.
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PLAYERS I AM COMFORTABLE WITH
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Jeter: No doubt about it
Arod: Post season numbers schmumbers, he is hungry!
Posada: Great Year and he’ll step it up for the post season
Damon: Seems to be on fire lately, never to late..
(They have the talent and experience and been here before)
Cano: He had tough times this year, but he’ll be fine.
Doug M: defense stellar, he’ll do fine offensively
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CONCERNED ABOUT (1-5, 5 being most concerned)
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Melky:3: really struggling of late
Giambi:5: Absolutely Horrible
Matsui:4: Since his wrist injury, never been the same
Abreau:1: We need him hot and dependable
!!!Now for my biggest concerns that may mean it all!!!!
If your not concerned about our pitching/bullpen then you have not been watching this team all year.
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Pitchers Im Comfortable With
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Andy: Great to have him again in the post season!
Joba: Can you feel the force? He is on fire!
Wang: Couple bad outings, but he’ll be fine.
Phil: Who else do you got to feel good about?
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CONCERNED ABOUT (1 – 5)
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Rocket:4: his injuries oh my!
Moose:5: couple good starts don’t by my belief!
Mariano:4: has looked horrible the last month (never seen him miss his spots this bad)
Ian:4: No post season exp, injured back?
Viz:4: Not sure what you’ll get with him
Farns:4: repeat viz comment
Ohlendorf:4: Where is he?
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TOTALLY FREAKED ABOUT
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Generally speaking our entire BP minus joba
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Edwar: Worthless
Villone: Ditto
Bruney: Garbage
Henn: ditto
Desalvo: Uh, what?
Veras: Uh, who is he anyway?
Britton: Laughable, why did you guys get excited about him?
Moose: worth a second mention
Igawa: You have to be kidding me 40+ million? can’t shake it
Clippard: Ugh, who does that leave us?
Karstens: no comment needed.
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How about Rasner? Where is he anyhow?
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SO being that I am not the optomist, where the heck does this leave us? I am for sure not going have high expectations! I will say, that they proved me wrong this year and only hope they do so again!!
Now, I am not a Joe Torre fan, and hope he doesn’t come back next year.. but you really got to feel for him about this.
What choices does he have with his SP and RP?
Total Mess!
Sorry for the way my post came out.. kinda weird that the line breaks got so screwed up…
hopefully it is still readable.
This is kinda cute.
http://trailfire.com/sportsinbox/marks/153961
Tells pavano what he can do with his post season share.
I don’t care about if that’s a no hitter or not–that was an awesome fight.
I missed the fight!! UGH. I only saw when the benches cleared the first time.
Anyone on the mets get kicked out?
Its great to see such optimistic fans.
I find it kind of funny there are still two regular games yet and Indians trolls are already showing up talking smack.
Oh well…welcome to The Empire boys!
Resistance is futile…you will be assimilated.
Nope. Just the Marlins catcher.
Too bad
I can’t believe I missed it. Were there punches thrown?
CB Buckner behind the plate, known baseball wide for being a terrible ump.
Puches thrown at Reyes but 3rd base coach stepped in and took the brunt of it. Lots of wrestling and guys being held back.
Too bad, would have been funny to see some black eyes.
Strike zone aside, a no-hitter is a no-hitter.
Yeah, Alomar took a punch for Reyes.
I”m not going to watch, any other team besides the mets and soxs, i’d watch.
Haha. Yeah. Why can’t th Royals have a guy throw a no-hitter? I’m still pretty much in love with Shannon Stewart.
Wow!
Yanks fans sure do have something — or rather many things — to be worried about heading into the next week.
Congrats on the wild card — but the division is so much sweeter.
Now watch as you get steamrolled by the Indians.
jennifer you should have kept watching.
fleas,
Some of your conerns are legitimate.
But do not lose sleep over it…..
Playoffs are a crapshoot and any thing can happen.
What I suggest you do: Do similar analysis of Cardinals last year and see how they won the WS. I am sure it will make you feel better.
http://news.monstersandcritics.....supplement
did you guys see this article ? not sure if someone posted it but jeeez. I guy got killed because he stole a paper in taiwan about wang.
Since there’s no Yankee game on, some thoughts on the Mets game:
1. Tough luck for Maine on losing his no-hitter.
2. Jose Reyes has tremendous talent and a 10-cent head. His team has given away their division lead through their poor play over the past few months. They may not make the playoffs. And in a blow-out win today, which doesn’t come close to erasing their bad play over the weeks past, he mouths off and gets involved in a fight. What if he or one of his teammates got hurt, and couldn’t play in the playoffs (granted, a longshot but still possible).
I have the impression, which I admit may be wrong, that Reyes got so full of himself at midseason – first place, big contract, praise in the newspapers – that he figured he didn’t have to try anymore. His poor play, declining production and poor baserunning (getting thrown out stealing 3rd with two out recently; not running balls out ) is a sign of that, and maybe finding out that he can’t turn it on when he wants to. Lasting Milledge is another player with lots of talent but no sense (getting thrown out of a game, and suspended during a pennant race). Someone needs to get in the face of guys like this. But the Mets don’t have Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada, Andy Pettitte, Paul O’Neill or players like that. I’m surprised Willie Randolph tolerates it.
3. They really don’t have the necessary pitching. But while Cash had Hughes, Joba, Kennedy to call up, the Mets didn’t. Pelfrey and Humber have shown that despite the hype, they’re not ready. Next year? Maybe. But not now. I don’t know the Mets farm system, but do they have reinforcements to help next year? The free agent market looks slim. They may have the same team. Granted, Pelfrey and Humber, Maine and Perez, may step up, but Glavine? Pedro? El Duque? And the bullpen? Delgado, Alou, will be another year older. They may want to upgrade catcher, but, as WE have seen, that’s easier said than done.
Thanks to the work of Cash, Damon Oppenheimer, etc, the Yanks future looks pretty good. I don’t know about the Mets. Thankfully, I root for the Yanks, and only observe the Mets.
_I was wearing my new Hot Joba t-shirt, and got compliments on it._
Oh, Behave!!
I disagree with Peter; Boston is a mess.
Their May team is a long time ago and in a place far, far away.
The current team is dried-out mess, the Joan Rivers, if you will, of baseball.
BBFAN, good point, who expected the Cards to win?
But on another note, being that I am no big fan of Torre…
I really do feel for him here, there maybe a lot of players to choose from but the pickings are ultra small.
Maybe we should go with a 2 starting pitcher rotation and one relief/closer.
Game 1: Wang :Relief Joba :closer Joba
Game 2 Pettite :Relief Joba :closer Joba
Just keep going on down the line until the final game of the WS…
(Yes people, I am joking here)
That photo of Papelbon in spandex with a case of beer on his head is priceless. What an idiot. Can you imagine what that guy was like in college?
You’re seeing it.
Tabs Tear Mets New One
http://tinyurl.com/2dxu6e
Check it out – Red Sox TV, I mean ESPN, jacked my Swag!!
http://tinyurl.com/33qwmb
The Nerve! Boy, a check better be in the mail !
Red Sux will never go away…even after we either MASH their team’s candy@$$ in the ALCS OR they simply don’t even get past the 1st round ( more likely ) they will talk smack even up to and after we win Ring Number 27 this year. They are Lords of the Idiot Nation that simply have no class, just like their team. They can bask in the AL East Championship all they want….as a life long Yankees Fan, I know that MY team ALWAYS sees getting into the playoffs ONLY as the 1st step and basically worthless if they get bounced out easily and early in the 1st round ( which is likely to happen with BOS this year. ) I SO HOPE that they somehow DO manage to get past LAA, not so that WE don’t have to face the Angels ( because WE need to get that flippin’ monkey off our backs ourselves ) …but it will give me great personal pleasure to see the same stupid looks on the fans’ faces as we did when we ripped their hearts with that comeback IN Boston, when we send them packing again. They all KNOW that we have their number and they can only hope and click their heels together and wish with all of their might ( little that it is ) that CLE beats us….cuz’ they KNOW that seeing the Yankees in the ALCS this year, means GUARANTEED Heartache. Those bums have ONE postseason pitcher then CRAP after. With Roger healthy, we’ll have 3….and as for Bullpen,,,I’ll call that even….but for hitting…PAH-LEASE !!! Nighty Nighty Idiot Nation Trolls…sweet dreams….your nightmare awaits you, either in LAA or in NYY,,,,but it WILL come. And after you lose, make sure you go crying to your mommies and ask her if she’ll let you stay,,,just one more year…in her basement…this time you really WILL get that job ! LOL !
I can’t wait to see how the Angels and Boston series plays out. I have full faith that the Yankees will beat the Indians in either 3 or 4 games. Either team that we get to play after that will give us more trouble than Cleveland, but will still not stand in our way to AL Champs. It would be awesome to see the Yankees and Cubs in the World Series this year. I am all for that. The next 2 games meaning nothing, should just be injury free. I hope that the Rocket is ready to pitch game 3,,,or I think we will be faced with either deciding to go with Wang on short rest ( not really a bad idea, in my opinion ) or “pick our poison” between Hughes or Mussina. I really think A-Rod and the rest of the bats are going to come up huge and we have an excellent chance to win our 27th Championship. ( check out the Vegas odds, we are actully the favorite ! )
LOL Pete. Wow I am suprised that you made that prediction. Anyone who has watch this year would know that the Angels are the best team in baseball. I am a die hard Yankee fan and I can see it. Boston isn’t going to get past them. Hopefully the Sox can take enough out of them for the Yankee’s to capitalize.
Uncle don-
well said but you forgot one thing –
when we lose we don’t look to place on anybody but ourselves. (check out the crying they did when we beat Pap-smear, excuse was HE WASN’T WARMED UP ENOUGH)
gimme a break
That cannot be said for the city with the inferiority complex north of us, they find any reason why it’s NOT their falt they lost. IT’s always someone else’s fault.
Definitly not theirs. Definitly not.
Here’s a slightly off topic question. I’ve spent the afternoon watching the Mets win and the Phillies (currently) losing and the announcers keep saying that if the two teams end up tied, they play a one game play-off in Philly on Monday. But if Philly owns the series for the season, why doesn’t that break the tie? I thought we had been saying that if the Yanks and Red Sox ended the division tied, Yanks would win due to the season record between the two teams. Is that just an AL thing?
Anaheim would be the best team except their closer is highly suspect (see the 2 walks) last night) and Shields is not Shields anymore. Anyone can win.
Lori, there is a one game playoff if one of the teams would not win the wildcard. In the case of the Yankees and Red Sox, both would make the playoffs, so the season series decides the division. In the case of the Mets and Phillies, the Padres are going to win the wildcard, so they have to have a one game playoff to decide the division and thus, who makes the playoffs
The angels have other injuries: Matthews, Vald, K Escobar, Justin Spier.
Plus the rally monkey is on strike; Boras walked out over the peanuts they were offering.
Just dropping by on a busy day/night, but I had to add my two cents, naturally.
My feelings about Mo’s outing last night was that he got a bad outing out of his system. Moving on.
Edwar Ramirez, when he’s good he’s very good, but he’s not good near enough.
Mussina had a 7-pitch inning, then sat for quite awhile for a second time while the Yankees put up more runs. Perhaps, just perhaps, that could have had an effect on his performance. (Long offensive inning, 7 pitches, long offensive inning – maybe?)
Even though the game didn’t mean much, you hate to lose when you score 9 runs.
All the AL Teams are capable of winning it all. The NL is absolutely a mess! And I feel bad for Willie Randolph, too.
I got the impression from reading Mo’s comments (in Peter’s previous post) that maybe Mo didn’t take the outing seriously, for whatever reason. (Hey, he’s human, too.) And then he couldn’t rachet it up. Better last night than next week. He’ll be ready next week.
Lori-
this is from official rule # 33 and # 34″:
If there is a tie for a Division Championship and the winning percentage of the two tied Clubs _is lower_ than the winning percentage of the _second-place_ Club with the best record among all _non-Division winners_ in the same League, the tie for the Division Championship shall be broken as follows:
A one-game playoff shall be played to determine the Division Championship. The site of the game would be determined by a coin flip and the winner of the game shall be declared the Division Champion.
Doreen,
I know what you’re saying about Moose, however, no excuses. that’s baseball; would he rather sit and watch his team score runs are watch 3 up and 3 down and get no run support….he is going to have to learn to deal.
JBL,
Angels are very good, however beat up now. Interesting to see if Scosia changes up his game plan, will he be less aggressive without Matthews,etc.?
Joe, I sure as hell hope so! I still will be biting my nails when he comes in the game, just b/c of his performance last nite, I won’t be able to help it!
i didn’t mean to type “learn to deal”, I am sure he (Mussina) knows how to, he just needs to exercise that quality!!! better?
do we have a lineup yet?
Phillies down to last out and then they are tied again with NYM?
B lineup tonite
Cabrera is scared!
Wow are you all for real? At least Tito doesn’t weep like Joe, as much as i like and respect him, if i see him cry again i think i will puke. Do your homework, folks, the Angels are a mess, the only team they could probably beat is the Yankees, and thats only becuase they are in their head. Facts are facts, and once you get in your bullpen, (early) it’s game-over. Now, you had Mo blow up, Andy P looked like a bag of crap last night; Clemens is done; are you chalking up Mo & Andy’s outings as “not taking it seriously? Meanwhile the Sox get a great outing from Dice-K and Wakefield does his usual great job. Making the playoffs just isnt enough (except i guess for you guys) Winning is the thing….Andy P struggles on the road as does Wang, and Cleveland is on fire. You may go four, but I expect a sweep in Yanks v. Tribe; the Sox-Angels won’t go more than 4…..we own the Angels at Fenway, Vlad is banged up, Chone Figgins is in a huge slump….have fun on the golf course this October
One other thing: they call it The Best Record in Major League Baseball………..
Mariano Rivera has pitched 1071 innings in the majors, including regular, all star and post season. I can’t find where he’s given up a single grand slam. Not that many news outlets blasted that Papelbon gave up a grand slam recently, they came up with other angles. That’s one of the advantages of having your closer be a ground ball pitcher, as opposed to a fly ball pitcher such as Papelbon, Joba, and certain others.
If a ball is hit on the ground, there’s not too much chance it will go over the fence.
Just trying out some smileys…don’t mind me
*popcorn*
nevermind…