lol. one of the best things about this past weekend is the end of that douchbag’s career…

With the exception of Hauk, can anyone name a Yankee manager that went for 6 years consecutively without winning a ring? Oh, yeah… Joe Torre.

Stengel was forced to retire after two years without a ring (and whether Stengel was a good or a bad manager, as long as the Yankees won, he got to keep his job. When they didn’t, he was let go). McCarthy got three years. Showalter got 4. If we applied the same criteria to Joe Torre, he would have been let go after 2002 or 2003 or 2004. Instead, here it is 2007… and now we get to listen to him make comments about it being unfair to be graded by wins and losses, or how the playoffs are all about the team that gets lucky.

Must have been a heck of a lucky Yankees team back from ’49 – ’53.

The Torre haters are just a bunch of pathetic blowhards who have latched onto a single organizing principle for their explanation of why the Yankees have not won 12 World Series titles in a row – Torre sucks. Baseball, the game of failure, where even hall-of-famers fail more often than they succeed, offers an endless supply of situations that people can cherrypick to prove any point they want.

Judging managers is very difficult, because obviously it is the players that really make the difference. Casey Stengel is the perfect example. Based on his Yankee record, he could be considered the greatest manager of all time. But before he managed the Yankees, he managed two teams, for a total of 9 years, and never finished higher than 5th place, out of 8, and ususally lower. After his stint with the Yankees he managed three and a half years with the Mets and accumulated a winning percentage of .302 – perhaps the worst performance ever. Was Casey a horrible manager, a great manager, then a horrible manager once again?

Luis Gonzales, an excellent hitter, gets the narrow part of his bat on a Rivera cutter and lobs it into short center, and its Torre’s fault, for having the games best closer in history closing the last game of the Series. These people are so ridiculous it is funny.

Joe Torre can manage my team for as long as he likes.

That is soooooooo weak.

Really?

How about Joe McCarthy? 7 Championships.
How about Casey Stengel? 7 Championships.

You are confusing dissent with complaining.

As an American who has been socialized with the values that have made this country great, I weep for you.

Joan in Cheshire, i totally agree. I couldnt have said it better my self. Nicely put!!