ALDS Game 1: Yankees at Indians
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Oct 04, 2007 
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Here are the lineups:
YANKEES
Johnny Damon LF
Derek Jeter SS
Bobby Abreu RF
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Jorge Posada C
Hideki Matsui DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Melky Cabrera CF
Doug Mientkiewicz 1B
Chien-Ming Wang RHP (19-7, 3.70 regular season)
INDIANS
Grady Sizemore CF
Asdrubal Cabrera 2B
Travis Hafner DH
Victor Martinez C
Ryan Garko 1B
Jhonny Peralta SS
Kenny Lofton LF
Franklin Gutierrez RF
Casey Blake 3B
C.C. Sabathia LHP (19-7, 3.21 regular season)
Pregame chatter: Yankees were 6-0 against the Indians in the regular season and have beat them eight straight going back to 2006. Going back 10 years, they are 57-31 against them, including the postseason.
UPDATE, 6:40 p.m.: Nice job by the umpire on the line, Jim Wolf. One thing to watch and he blows the call. But at least they got it right. Quite a start for the Yankees and Damon, who now has 14 hits in his last 24 at-bats.
UPDATE, 6:58 p.m.: Sabathia threw 33 pitches in that inning. It was huge for the Yankees to make him work like that. Of course 3-0 would have been even better.
UPDATE, 7:18 p.m.: Bad, bad inning for Chien-Ming Wang. He went from two outs, nobody on and a 1-2 count against Victor Martinez to giving up three runs. Very uncharacteristic of him. Just poor pitching.
UPDATE, 7:48 p.m.: The Yankees have drawn four walks off Sabathia in four innings and none of them have scored. He has been lucky. Of course, he’s also dominated hitters with his fastball. I don’t see how he’s going to give them seven innings.
Then again, with how Wang is pitching maybe it doesn’t matter. He left that pitch way up to Cabrera. The Yankees may want to think about Phil Hughes here to try and stay in the game.
UPDATE, 8:23 p.m.: Torre seems to be trying to get some offense going here by pinch-hitting Shelley Duncan. Doug Mientkiewicz is on the top step of the dugout cheering, not in the trainer’s room.
By the way, that cameraman who ran him over was fired by YES. He was a freelancer based in Cleveland.
UPDATE, 8:37 p.m.: Sabathia is batter to batter. He has thrown 112 pitches.
UPDATE, 8:46 p.m.: This is the first time April 29 that Chien-Ming Wang has allowed two home runs in the same game. Nice timing.
The playoffs are usually about pitching and he’s just not getting it done.
UPDATE, 8:52 p.m.: Bad job by Torre leaving Wang in to face Lofton as well. Bob Klapisch of The Record and I both first-guessed that Wang should have been out of the game after the double by Peralta.
Wang has pitched extremely well for two years for the Yankees. He was lousy tonight.
I’m sure there will be people ready to leap off the cliff. But they won Game 1 the last two years and what did that get them?
Besides, this game is far from over.
UPDATE, 9:04 p.m.: Well, now it’s over. Cleveland has two great set-up guys in Betancourt and Perez. Even Joe Borowski won’t screw this up.
It’s a shame, too. If I told you before the game that the Yankees would score three runs and knock Sabathia out of the game after five innings, you all would have signed up.
Instead he gets an ugly win and Wang an even uglier loss.
Meanwhile somewhere in Oregon, Brian Bruney is watching Ross Ohlendorf and saying, “I could have done that!”
UPDATE, 9:51 p.m.: Some of you Chicken Littles making comments should be ashamed of yourselves. The Yankees WON Game 1 the last two years and went on to lose the series. Beyond that, this team has come back from trouble time after time this season.
Beyond that, they got to Sabathia. Cleveland now comes with totally inexperienced Fausto Carmona then Jake Westbrook and Paul Byrd.
Have more faith in your team. Of course, most of you probably declared them dead in May.
UPDATE, 9:43 p.m: Phil Hughes? That would seem to make Mike Mussina your Game 4 starter.
Ready your dinner and eat hearty.
For tonight, WE DINE IN CLEVELAND!
The tank on the Optimism Bus is full of fuel and ready to go. Who’s coming?
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Here we go!
Meanwhile, Philly has turned bottom up – wouldn’t doubt if they get swept.
So – Who’s da’ team to beat ?
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Well, let’s ask some vets who’ve been there
NASTY BOYS !!
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Harlan and Jaba Rock da Jake
In case ya missed it – Wang’s press conference
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You Give Us 2-Minutes And We’ll Give You Da’ Wanger!!
He’s shy, and that’s cute.
Time for the Baby Bombers to come through and stand beside the old Veterans! The official game thread from Pete….let’s go Yankees!!!
i just want to say go yankees before i leave work. (it stunk here today – can’t wait to get home)
go yankees!
go wang, go yanks, 27 on 07
Longest hour of my life, waiting for this game to start…
Beyond Grady and Victor, that lineup shouldn’t scare anyone.
*No Such Thing As Home-Field-Advantage*
Since 1998:
The team with HFA in the AL Divison Series
16 of 36 have won = 44%
last year 1 of 4
The team with HFA in the AL Championship Series
10 of 22 have won = 45%
last year 0 of 2
*In the last 16 seasons, only one team with the best season record won the World Series (1998 Yankees). This year, Boston had the best record in the Majors.
If ryan howard and chase utley doesnt hit, the philly’s dont win. Rollins cant be there only offense and they have NO pitching
OPTIMISM ALL THE WAY!!!! TOUGH ALL DAY!!!
GO WANG!! GO YANKEES!!!!!
Good #s Dr. A!
OCTOBER BASEBALL!!!! HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOO!
peter, can you please go remind kim jones of 2 things.
1. that joba faced 6 hitters in cleveland in his 2nd outing, she failed to realize that in her pregame comments.
2. tell her not to jinx the yankees, i am one who is very superstitious and for her to be told twice by derek jeter that she is jinxing him and the team is truly unacceptable.
GO BOMBERS
ONE TEAM, ONE MISSION, 27th TITLE
LET’S GO YANKEES!!! Less than 45 minutes left.
Wang and the Yankees got an entire country of fans halfway around the globe behind them today. The bombers will rock Sabathia and Wang will DOMINATE.
#27 in 2007.
“for her to be told twice by derek jeter that she is jinxing him and the team is truly unacceptable.”
He was joking with her and being sarcastic. Relax. Kim is not jinxing anyone.
looks like the phillies game will go past 6:30, what will TBS do?
I know Matsui is hurting a bit (I would have started Duncan), but why not have him bat in front of Posada to stagger the L and R(S) batters?
TNT broadcasts the beginning of games in case of overrun on TBS.
I know Matsui is hurting a bit (I would have started Duncan), but why not have him bat in front of Posada to stagger the L and R(S) batters? Now we have 4 lefties in a row at the back of our lineup for Perez to mow down later in the game.
Mazun Posada was/is the Yankees 2nd best hitter this year. It makes sense to have your best hitters get more at bats in the game. All of the lefty/righty stacking lineup stuff really doesn’t matter. Good hitters can hit both lefties and righties.
I think someone actually showed that the team’s record is better during YES games–they dont’ want to have to answer to Kim Jones.
It was funny. I wouldn’t want to answer to her either!
*Cleveland*
First appearance in the playoffs since 2001.
The Indians haven’t won a World Series since the Bill Veeck led 1948 team.
Sabathia has only one postseason game under his belt.
Sabathia is 1-7 versus the Yanks, with a 7.13 ERA.
Jeter is batting .545 vs Sabathia.
ARod is batting .412 vs Sabathia.
*In the last three years*
a) Yanks are 4-1-1 in season series vs Cle
b) Yanks are 6-4 at Jacobs Field
c) Yanks are 9-2 at Home
Kaz Matsui needs a single for the cycle. Im sure mets fans will love that.
Mazun,
u answer ur own question – matsui is injured and mired in a slump. He is also 0 for 9 against sabathia for his career. We dont want arod to get pithed around for many reasons so we need a strong bat behind him and one that sabathia might mind facing. Although posada only has 3 hits off sabathia – two are homers. Arod needs protection.
mazun, isn’t melky a switch hitter? so you’ve got possada who’s switch, then 2 lefty’s, the switch, then 2 leftys, then jeet who’s a righty. right?
Phil,
you can tell for sure that Jeters was pissed about the questions from her like that. And yes, thats unacceptable
I don’t care if he;s a Sux broadcaster, but Don Orsillo is a hell of a play by play guy. I like him much better than Mikey Kay.
Let’s forget about the numbers and just win today’s game.
less than 30 minutes to go!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Or let’s just think about upcoming CURRENT numbers and WIN!!!
Someone on a previous post was mentioning how in last year’s ALDS we started Jaret Wright in Game 4 down 2-1 rather than Wang on short rest. I rememeber the reason we didnt start Wang, because he had been experiencing some issues with his shoulder, which he has had problems with before in his minor league career so we didnt want to risk him hurting it worse by starting on short rest. I do not believe there is any such concern this season because Wang has not been linked with any shoulder or arm issues all season. And it usually makes sense to start a sinker ball pitcher on short rest because I believe having a slightly more tired arm helps keep the ball down.
That was me,
But I said we should only start wang in game four this yr if we are down 2-1 at that point like last yr. I only mention it because pete mentioned something about Moose or wang possibly starting game four NOT Hughes
“you can tell for sure that Jeters was pissed about the questions from her like that. And yes, thats unacceptable”
No, they have done that type of banter at least four other times this season that I can recall seeing. Jeter has a dry, sarcastic humor. He was not pissed, he was joking/teasing with her.
who in the indians’ lineup scares you guys the most? grady? hafner?
ITS GAME TIME!!!!!!!!!!! (in 20 minutes)
If history keeps repeating itself and if we lose game 1 of ALDS, then we would win the ALDS series!
So, for tonight, GO INDIANS!!!!!!!!
i’m not scared of anyone who’s nickname in Pronk
Hafner had an awful yr. Sizemore had a mediocre yr but is prolly their best hitter. Martinez had the better yr but sizemore i think is the best hitter and prolly the scariest because he is versatile – speed, power, avg
fyi here in Northern Jersey TNTHD is on 710 (Time warner) for those who will be looking at game time since the Phils ganme looks like it will be going past 637
If we beat sabathia it is highly improbable that we lose the series – westbrook and Byrd are absolutely horrible in the stadium and we have beaten carmona this yr already. MLB.COM claims we have a significant edge by their computer program statistics but if we lose game one, the edge goes to cleveland – i dont buy it because the indians need this game more than we do i feel.
Dr. Acula – great video about Joba and Harlan.
SI just came out, and there is a tremendous article on how Joba was raised by his dad, and the obstacles that he/they overcame. Unless you’re the biggest cynic, you can’t read it without getting teary eyed.
Does anyone know what happens if the Phillies-Rockies game goes long on TBS? Are they switching the Yankees game to another channel??
Longest 20 minutes of my life…
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Seriously, we take one on the road, we sweep at home, ALCS here we come!
Raf: see above.
Carsten Charles Sabathia vs. The New York Yankees on October 4, 2007:
IP H R ER HR BB K
9 1 0 0 0 0 9
“Yanks make us proud”.. Wang will have a stellar game tonight. I got a good feeling about Cano this series. Just a crap shoot, but this series should be a good one. Damon over Giambi is great, with Minky’s glove will become factors.
how about that classic introduction on the radio
phil, lets not argue as we are on the same team. but just agree to disagree on this one. i do truly believe that jeter was pissed and you apparently dont agree.
go bombers
all those numbers acula posted are a good argument why wildcards are really at absolutely no disadvantage for the post-season and they should prolly change things./
thank you phil
Jared: why would a YES reporter knowingly try and piss off the Yankees Captain? Today and three other times this year? Why would Jeter tolerate it that many times? Because he is not being serious. That’s his sarcasm. Watch the YES postgame shows the last few years and you’ll see how Jeter is with the beat reporters and YES interviewers.
Jared – I’m sorry – but I’m with Phil on this one (and don’t worry guys, I won’t say anything else), but Jeter and Kim Jones have a long-standing relationship of him ribbing her. I think you’re projecting your feelings to Jeter, who is, I can assure you, very much in control of his emotions. Kim Jones is the least of his worries right now.
what time is game time
Ten minutes! So nervous!
I was wondering where Fear Factor was. Hadn’t seen him/her in a while.
Jeter was not pissed. Calm down people.
Just a piece of horrific history…
Boston: 2 World Championships since 1918
Cleveland: 2 World Championships since 1920
At least Cleveland went only 28 years between championships opposed to Boston’s 86.
Ah, Law and Order. Quite the pregame, if you ask me!
Nice picture, Pete!
I heard Jeter was pissed at Rocco.
Now, I’m really irritated. I have TBS but not TNT. Updates please!
Im soo tired of this lefty conversation – if u r a good hitter, u can hit anyone. If you are a good pitcher – u can get anyone out. Ppl put way too much into this lefty righty thing. Matsui and cano have great career numbers off lefties
Damn TBS and TNT…we should get to watch the introductions and singing of the National Anthem instead of this Law and Order rerun!!!
mel: you must have TNT. It’s the channel that Law and Order is on constantly.
“New York was left for dead.” ?? Nice…. And here we go!!!! GO YANKEES!!!
*LET’S GO YANKEES!*
Right here, right now, we win!
So the Yankees cant beat the Angels. According to the media we faint at the very sight of them, what with their slightly better than .500 record against us in the Torre era. However, their mostly picking the Indians and saying their 0-6 against us doesn’t matter nor does CC Sabathia 1-7 career mark. Yankees in 3. Bet the farm on it.
um usually if you have TBS you have TNT
Game time at 6:37.
TNT channel 75 on DirecTV. Let’s go Yankees
I hope we didn’t miss introductions.
Andrea = my idol
We already missed introductions…look at Pete’s photo above.
Is the sound off for anyone else? The voice ain’t matching with the video…
your idol?
Well lets hope we see them introduced at Yankee Stadium were they’ll be cheered.
Here we go! No turning back now!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
—I heard Jeter was pissed at Rocco.—
yes, my idol
woops no idea why that did the cross out
Hey Fat Bruce Frohming the best cardiologists in the world are in New York so remember that when your calling balls and strikes
Yankees Chick, it’s when you do double hyphens.
I use double hyphens all the time, so half of my posts end up–like that–
And dude, that was such a home run.
I love that Damon completed the HR trot!!!
can we get a replay
YEAH BABY!!!
Yes! That would have sucked if they didn’t overturn it.
nice why are we not seeing a replay on this
HAHA. Now that’s a start!
HR!!!
DAMON STARTING IT OFF – DAMON HAD GOOD NUMBERS AGAINST CC I DUNO WAT GWYNN WAS TALKING BOUT
…1-0, I like it!
JOHNNYYYYYYYYY
YEEEEEEEEHA!
strange, but man does damon perform in the postseason
Camera work leaves a lot to be desired…where is the slo-mo replay showing the ball into the stands?
Damon sucks!
DAMON WAS 6 FOR 14 429 AVG AGAINST CC
My basic cable doesn’t have TNT, only fuzzy Law & Order. But my Gameday tells me that JD just jacked one!
gotta keep getting ahead in the count… looks like he is giving room on the inside corner but not outside
Pretty weak that they didn’t show a replay until after the umps changed the call. Plus the replay was inconclusive. Either way, it obviously, could not have started better.
Well I guess Fear Factor’s prediction was wrong!
What is this – amateur hour?
TBS is awful, awful, awful!
So glad it was called a home run but how bout a freaking replay or 3…unreal that such a crucial call would not even get a second look by these yahoos.
well that was quick lol
SABATHIA MISSED BADLY ON TWO PITCHES IN TWO BATTERS THAS A GOOD SIGN
Johnny D has some big post-season hits… and he’ll have a bunch more
Good at bat for Jetes. Run up the pitch count.
is it just me or is MLB.TV acting up strangely? it’s a tiny screen and audio/video are not matching….
tnt doesn’t have one view that shows the HR. That is unreal. Guess we’ll have to deal with Bush League coverage this week.
ok forget aboutt he replay it was useless they only have 1 camera to rf horrendous
Someone on one of the other threads was asking if Phillips was travelling with the team. He was just shown on the replay on t6he bench.
Making CC work so far.
My guess is that TBS was unprepared for such a quick strike and just flat out missed the shot with their other cameras.
its been 5 minutes and i’m already irritated w/ TBS…
Say what you will about michael kay and the gang, i’ll take YES’s camera crew, facts, stats, etc any day
WOW…. close call on ball 3
OMG a 3-2 count. CC threw 3 balls!!!
Terrible job by TBS.. Half of America missed Damon’s solo shot, because unless you were perceptive enough to recognize the tiny little ticker saying the Yankees game had started, you missed the first atbat.
Yankees Chick: yeah, I hyphen a lot, so I used to cross out a lot of posts. I’m glad to be an idol. Jeter really is pissed at Rocco
Nice eye Bobby!
All right A-Rod, show everyone why this year is different!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Tight strike zone. CC is going to get frustrated quick if this keeps up.
I like Froemming’s strike zone!
yeah bobby! froemming is definitely not giving any room off the outside.. he did call one 3 inches inside to jeter… hopefully wang is taking notes
OMG we got a walk! Not against CC! It just doesn’t happen!
Way to battle it Bobby.
Here comes the MVP!
lets go A-ROD!!!
CC IS STRUGGLING WITH CONTROL – WE SHOULD HIT HIM NOW BEFORE HE REGAINS HIS COMPOSURE
gotta pitch inside tonight
20 pitches already… LOVE IT
Agreed, Yanks Chick. TBS is not showing the speed of the pitches, either…sad that the most important games are broadcast so poorly when they are capable of so much more.
I HOPE AROD GETS A HIT NOW TO SHUT EVERYONE UP
I am liking the pitch count on Sabathia. I want him outta here asap.
The HBP does not appear to be consistent with his balls/strikes calls. I hope the Yankees just suck it up and not complain too much.
It’s the umpire’s last year before retirement. We don’t want to get unnecessarily dinged before his last few games.
SABATHIA IS ALL OVER THE PLACE
Full count on Arod….LET’S DO THIS
beautiful… make CC work
Where’s all my friends from the earlier thread who told me I was crazy that we would be patient and make him throw a ton of pitches?
Full count on Alex.
Dave, any chance you could take the caps lock off for normal posts?
I LOVE LOVE LOVE that they’re at bats
Mel, the Rockies/Phillies game is over, so the Yankees game is on TBS now.
Whoo, walks!
i wonder if he has had back to back walks all season
20 pitches in the first inning? I’ll take it.
Great AB A-Rod! LET’S GO YANKEES!
OBP! Hell yes.
thats right take your walks arod not being too anxious
OMG ITS CRAIG SAGER!!!!!!! HES HERE!!!!!
What color is that jacket Craig Sager? Orange sherbert?
NICE AT BAT! 2 straight walk!
C.C. looks like he’s losing his control!
Great start!
Good patient at bat by A Rod. 24 pitches so far. Good sign that A Rod didn’t chase one.
YES!!!! sabathia’s nerves might be getting to him (and the tight strike zone on the outside corner
)
CC never issues back to back walks… I love the patience
yea im taking the caps off i didnt even realize sorry about that
Can we get a fastball velocity here TBS?
Horrible
I meant I love that they’re having *good* at bats
This has to be a 2-3 run inning. No 6-4-3 Jorge.
2 quick points
1) Sabathia clearly has control problems, a little bit shocking.
2) With Posada up here, I’d like to see a double steal to stay away from DP.
Hip hip…
Hip Hip
what is the deal with the pitch-tracker? am i the only person who cannot seem to understand how the on-screen graphic corresponds with what they are saying?
i researched sabathia’s starts this year and he was prone to giving up big innings…. when teams scored more than a few runs, it was usually 1 big inning. the point – gotta score when you get the chance. they need to hit with RISP and get the big inning.
sabathia = rattled
the Cleveland fans are getting restless
Let’s break it open here Jorge. I would like Wang to get a lot of length today.
Back on TBS
why doesnt TBS have a radar gun?
brilliant career? I wouldnt describe sabathias career as brilliant – arod, santana, pujols, clemens not sabathia
Dave, thanks.
I hope, that when I’m 68, I have the energy equal to umpiring a major league baseball game behind homeplate like Bruce F.
Come on Matsui!!! (Welcome back!)
Awww Jorge Ks. It’s ok. Godzilla will deliver. As long as they drive his count up.
Ach, not this time Jorge, but next time, you’ll get him.
Anyway, you need three pitches to strike someone out, so by my count that’s a five pitch at bat, getting the pitch count up…
Posada couldn’t lay off the high stuff that Abreu and A Rod wouldn’t bite on. Let’s go gimpy.
Key atbat there from Posada.
Can’t let him get off the hook with only 1 run on the board. Already starting to see him gain confidence
Thursday, October 4, 2007
ALDS Preview Yankees v.s. Indians
This is where the fun ends. No more playing inexperienced rookies. No more giving your scrubs a batting order spot just to make them feel good. We are no longer in September, folks. This is October.
There are no more easy games. No more “Tampa Bay Devil Rays” on the schedules. We have reached the big time. And the first stop is Cleveland. The Yankees swept the season series with Cleveland, finishing 6-0 against the Tribe. But don’t fool yourselves, the Indians are a force to be reckon with. They boast a strong pitching rotation, led by one of my favorite pitchers, big C.C. Sabathia, followed up by 24 year old stud Fausto Carmona. With 19 wins and a 3.06 ERA in just his second full season, don’t be surprised if this guy racks up few CY Young’s before hanging up the boots. Oh, and you musn’t forget veteran Jake Westbrook. When Jake is on, he is on.
Cleveland also has a few decent position players themselves. Wait a minute, decent? Grady Sizemore, Victor Martinez, and Travis Hafner are superstars. All three can deliver a big blow with one swing of the bat at any time in the game. Grady is also a gold-glove caliber defender in CF. Johnny Peralta, Franklin Gutierrez and Johnny Peralta are also solid role players.
However, the Yankees will still win this series. Why? Not only is the offense by far the best in the league, the starting pitching has the potential to dominate, they just haven’t all clicked at the same time. Chien-Ming Wang can hang in neck and neck with Sabathia, plus has the monstrous Yankees offense as a cushion. Andy Pettitte is a veteran that has been there before and has pitched his as.s off this season. Mike Mussina is a grizzled veteran who like Pettitte has been in the post-season before. And the Rocket, well, he’s just the Rocket. I do not see the Yankees sweeping, but I see them going the distance to 5 games with a very good Cleveland Indian ball club.
Let’s get ready. This will be one interesting post-season.
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Crap – here’s where Matsui’s choice will be made a good or bad one. I’m waiting for the inevitable.
“Let’s break it open here Jorge. I would like Wang to get a lot of length today.”
I bet you would
what is that? war and peace?
Yup
posada swung at a ball or two. Matsui isnt out of that slump but at least we upped his pitch count if nothing else.
Okay, it’s 1-0 us. Let’s make it stand!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
At least Matsui’s knee looked ok while he was running down to first.
Great inning. Patient ABs, and a run to boot.
33 pitches in 1 inning. Glad we got the lead anyway. Now shut them down Wanger.
33 pitches for CC in 1 inning.
If we can have 2 more of these innings Sabathia will be gone real soon.
33 Pitches for Sabathia.
Quick inning by Wang would be huge.
Nice, got the lead and made CC throw 33 pitches.
LET’S GO WANG!!!!
Thanks, guys. I caught everything after the HR highlight. 33 pitches. Nice.
Let’s go CMW!
we need another quality righty bat in the lineup next yr – teixera would have been perfect but he isnt a FA until 2009
*33 pitches by Sabathia.
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Global – quick inning would def be huge… sabathia is good… but he’s still a fat bastard
alllllrighty then….
way for TNT/TBS to switch coverage in the middle of an at bat.. what’s up with that
Just setting up the DP
Batty
October 4th, 2007 at 6:54 pm
Crap – here’s where Matsui’s choice will be made a good or bad one. I’m waiting for the inevitable.
Really? This one at bat will determine if Matsui playing tonight was a good choice? What if he hits a grand slam next inning?
damn wang – he just put on one of their speediest players in one pitch
Nice recovery!
way to recover wang – two pitches – two outs
Global Warming aka Nostradamus
raymagnetic – seriously…. its not like Duncan was a lock to go 2-4 against the Cy Young winner. I cant argue with Duncan or Matsui but its way too early to judge.
Ha. Maybe Wang getting a HBP wasn’t so bad.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Double play! Yes, looks like Wang is over his nerves!
how bout a 6-8 pitch inning? cmon wang
Exactly Boston Dave.
this lineup reminds me of detroits lineup last yr
u dont wanna walk hafner to face martinez – i wouldnt think
Joshn728 – ‘no more inexperienced rookies’. Have you looked in our bullpen?
They are the correct choices, but Hughes, Joba, Ohlendorf and Veras dont bring a lot of experience to the table. Neither do Shelley or Sardinha.
Melky and Cano don’t have a whole lot either.
These is the new Yankees.
Granted it is different from throwing out Clippard and Chase Wright, but they are still rookies.
VMart is the only guy who scares me in the entire lineup…. big out here
and thats why
Not a good start hopefully he calms down
Come on Yankees! One more out! LET’S GO YANKEES!
Brian M – you actually read that whole thing? hats off to ya
I know i’m a little behind, but I don’t think Wang hit the first hitter of the game. The announcers didn’t say a thing!!!
And Wang doesn’t look sharp at all.
sizemore is a better hitter i think but victor had the best yr on the team.
frits is back…let’s go yanks!
jennifer i was thinking the same thing
dammit wang
Okay, Wang, please, let’s get this last out?
Thanks much.
Way to start the game Wang.
goddamn
All this with two outs
lame.
Oh, Dang. That’s o.k. CMW, let’s go!
I see the Rockies voted to give the Coolbaugh family a full playoff share. Nice move. I hope they finish off the Phillies to bump it up a little.
No one said this was going to be easy. Settle down Wang. It was a ground ball – and we know that every once it a while one gets through.
jennifer: You’re not the only one.
horrible location a hi sinker that didnt sink
wang looks too strong.
These announcers are HORRIBLE!!
i think wang should just go to the windup, they are not stealing here
Wang come on!!! 20 pitches ALREADY!! Shut up that damn drum.
I have it on mute already.
I hope Wang will settle down soon.
Boston Dave: i was thinking the same thing
He seems so much more comfortable in the windup
He’s hanging everything up in the zone. Ugh.
Got lucky with that 1st strike. Ok, two strikes – stand and clap folks. . .
They are terrible with replay too!! It took them 3 minutes to replay Johnny’s homerun!!
he looked better against the sizemore and hafner
wow…. i guess its consistent.. no outside corner
…that was a strike. For the record.
Yeah Dave – that one DID look over the plate.
What’s up everyone??
This is going to be a LONG game is Wang stays up in the zone!
GO YANKS!!
they can pitch gems but both of them are already over 30 pitches … how long can they last after a first inning like that?
A quicker inning wud have helped… but they didnt win 96 games for nothing.. we shud take it gladly if we are tied or leading by the 6th and CC is gone..
Damit!!
Come on Wang!! SETTLE DOWN!!!
Man the Jake is really rocking.
Let’s hope CMW can somehow get Lofton out…
does playoff experience make up for being 45 years old?? i guess we’ll see
Wang is too strong. Too much rest.
Lofton to KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
Anyone else just want to burn that damn drum?
I wonder if we will be seeing Phil tonight?
gwynn is clearly being biased as %$#^ right now.
FUHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
fuuuuuuuuuuuckl
FU KENNY!!!
Okay, so that was Wang’s bad inning. No worries, Wang will settle down and the Yanks’ offense will do their thing.
We win tonight.
LET’S GO YANKEES!
all with two outs an 2 strikes
Not what we needed. Optimism!!!!
that was awful. Shoot me.
Why didn’t Joe pitch Wang on Sunday, than Friday?
Ok, only the first inning. This is where Guidry needs to settle him down. Way down.
I am so glad I’m watching this in the privacy of my hotel room. If I was in the bar they’d be locking me up right now.
I think the whole theory that his parents being in the stadium was going to be a plus is shot.
Somebody get them back on a slow boat China stat!
And that’s the series. Can we stop this myth now that Wang is an ace, or even a very good pitcher?
Get ‘em back guys. It’s going to be a long game.
wang looks terrible
the key now is too keep CC’s pitch count up. cleveland’s bullpen is one of the worst.. wang can settle down and keep it close.
wang was complete shwit that inning – what the $%#*?
Indians got the big hit. We didn’t.
Down 3-1 and the momentum is really showing at Jacobs field. Either Sabathia continues his control problems or settles down with the lead….
Okay we’ll go right back at it, and go after CC. CC will be saying see ya after the 3rd when we knock him out.
Unbelievable.
Greedy to think Wang could post a zero in the first when he’s most vulnerable. Sinkerballers need a few innings to get moving, and he almost dodged it with that pitch to Peralta, which was strike three. No excuses for allowing 3 runs, once again it’s up to the offense to put this team on its back.
screw you, kenny lofton.
Luthien – I think we’ll do that as part of the pre-game on Sunday!
Idiot Wang – hit batters, walks, what the hell!! First game ever??? Pitch like you been there fool.
My prediction yesterday, Yankees down 4-2 until CC gets forced out, then Ohlendorf comes in and gets the win. Of course I predicted today the Yankees would lose today and win in 5. Guess I’m right either way.
Good news is, 3 runs is not winning this game.
Wang is leaving his pitches up and has no out pitch. It’s the same story in every bad start he’s ever had. I’d take him out now while we’re still in the game.
Garbage outing by Wang. Get him out of this game NOW!
He’s too petrified to throw the ball over the plate.
Two outs, nobody on and he falls apart. Its Boston Part II all over again.
A pathetic performance.
Go to Hughes in the second. Frankly, he should have been out of there after the Peralta walk. They waited too long.
Its the playoffs and you have 11 guys on the roster for a reason. Get him out of there and go to Hughes. He’s too afraid to win tonight.
This isn’t May. He has nothing, can’t throw strikes and can’t miss bats. Go to Hughes and forget him for the rest of this series.
wang continues his trend of sucking away from the stadium – i think he lets the crowd get to him
what happened to 27 outs we play for 27 outs not 3 everyone
Adam:
“That’s the series?”
Wow. Bandwagon fans are hilarious, but tough to ignore.
Guys jumping ship after one inning? Pathetic.
LET’S GO YANKEES!
IF WANG DOESNT SHAPE UP IN THE SECOND, WE NEED TO TAKE HIM OUT AND PUT HUGHES IN.
LETS SAVE WANG FOR AT HOME WHEN HE CAN ACTUALLY FIGURE OUT HOW TO PITCH.
This is PATHETIC. 2 outs and he finds a way to load the bases with walks and hits, allowing 3 runs. Some “ACE” we have.
Adam, are you kidding? or just a moron?
Man.. are u guys for real… some AQUAFINA wud help.. we ar talking abt Hughesy already?
i feel sick. this game makes me want to die.
thanks Wang 9___9
2 outs and nobody on and you let them score 3 runs? Whatever, at least it’s only the 1st inning.
A 40 minute inning. This is the Yankee team we know.
SJ44
you are a moron
Everyone needs to calm down. It was just one inning.
wow i cant believe what some of u are saying. How would phil hughes make a difference? he has no playoff expierence. think before you all speak
Whoa, SJ44, we agree for once. Glad to see it.
Wang needs to be taken out and Hughes needs to be in the 2nd. No doubt.
Throw something at them that they havent seen
I thought they shipped Lofton’s ass off to Tokyo?!
That can’t be the real SJ44. If it is, I have lost a lot of respect for you.
Why would Joe sit Robbie? Oh how I hate when people who don’t know the team do the games!
Adam
October 4th, 2007 at 7:15 pm
“And that’s the series. Can we stop this myth now that Wang is an ace, or even a very good pitcher?”
Sure we can. We can aslo accept that you don’t know sh*t, if you don’t mind.
umm cleveland has one of the worst bullpens? They have two relievers with 40 plus innings, with era below 3
there you go
Are you insane, SJ?
Get Wang out of there NOW!?!
Talk about unnecessary panicking.
evidently, the Jew-hater has a wide strike zone.
…Good eye Robby!
Tying run at the plate!
Looking at the first inning makes me wonder why we used Wang in Game #1 on the road. Sure he is the Ace of the staff, but he is just so much better at home. I would´ve gone with Pettitte & Moose on the road followed by Wang & Clemens at home. But I guess there´s a reason I´m not the manager heh.
Let´s just hope CC hasn´t settled in yet. Looking at the first 4 pitches I would think not.
LETS GO YANKEES!
Its the playoffs, forget the excuses.
He’s not “too strong”. He’s too afraid of the strikezone.
Two walks, a HBP, 3 hits. An awful inning. Pitched afraid the entire inning.
Go to Hughes and move on. Putting him out for the second is as foolish as him pitching to Lofton. He has to be out of this game. The moment is too big for him.
Give Wang a chance to settle down. He will. Dont panic SJ44.
four pitch walk to Cano. Nice long inning of sitting by CC, hopefully that helps us.
Here we go Yankees, here we go. . .
Ok, and maybe Froemming won’t be completely horrible. ??
…You guys are really crafty, you know?
pete is right that one guy down the right field like in only there two call homers and foul and his first and possibly only call in the game and he blows it
Dougie’s gonna rip a double off this guy.
“Garbage outing by Wang. Get him out of this game NOW!
He’s too petrified to throw the ball over the plate.
Two outs, nobody on and he falls apart. Its Boston Part II all over again.
A pathetic performance.”
SJ44 you can’t take him out after 1 inning. That sort of thing could kill a pitchers confidence going into his start, next round, next season. Let’s just hope he settles down.
That’s not SJ44, guys. He thinks Hughes needs more “seasoning” in the minors.
lead off walk from cano… lets go! rally it up kids!
You guys don’t panic much do you ???
It’s the first inning !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not to mention it would burn out the entire pen on day one.
Dougie’s helmet is gross
SJ wang is a battler ive seen him have absolutely nothing and five up 3 runs in 6 or 7 innings. You need to at least start him in the second – one more run, then we can panic
this is exactly why we need a johan santana or a good power pitcher. face it. wang is a very nice number 2, just like when moose came from Baltimore. Maybe Wang is a #1 for KC, Pitts, etc but not for a World Series caliber team. Series over, at least there is good fall TV and football.
mel – i know. you cant really take anything SJ says seriously. we’d have traded everybody on the team by now if he was running things.
yay, 2 popups :/
Now i remember why i stopped commenting here… either there are a 100 Sox trolls posting with Yankee monikers.. or u guys really are nuts..
No, that is the real SJ44. You can tell by his style of writing and general pessimism.
He makes decent points at times, but he’s completely gone senile.
Wow. What a start. Wang leaving pitches up, he gets burned every time that happens. Then again, of all those pitches, only one resulted directly in outs. This isn’t over yet, pessimists! It’s the first (second) inning of game 1!
Guys, that’s a fake SJ44, no way the real one would call for burning out the entire pen on day one. Peter, check his credentials, not cool imitating a poster.
You hear that?
Thrown out by Victor Zambrano.
*Rock Bottom*
Fifty pitches in two innings?
Don’t worry, we’ll be in Cleveland’s bullpen soon enough.
Robby, you probably shouldn’t be running the bases like that, but no matter.
Top of the order next inning.
i dunno about hit and run the way sabathia has been wild… and you want to get his pitch count up. let him off the hook there.
Thrown out
Good news is, he is already up to 50 pitches, bad news Wang isn’t too far behind.
cannot cant f’in run u morons
i meant cano not cannot
I love how whenever the Indians get a hit or make a play, the play-by-play announcer goes crazy, but when it’s the Yankees, he’s lukewarm 9__9
dave, it had to be a hit and run but the pitch was unhittable for damon.
Yeah that doesn’t sound like sj! He’s saying Wang should have walked in a run? HUH?
Ok – Johnny up again to start the 3rd. Now, let’s just have Wang hold them now — Settle down and keep us in the game. CC is up at 50 pitches. Let’s get to CC and let’s get to the bullpen. No need to panic. It is EARLY!!
doesn’t matter if its the real sj or not. Its stupid to make some comment like that. If that person has no faith in yankee players why be a yankee fan at all?
No Tony, you are a moron. Wave your pom poms for somebody who gives a crap.
Its the playoffs. If your starter is crap, you go to the bullpen.
Give Hughes the ball and see what he can do. We already know what Wang can do and it isn’t much.
You can’t give up anymore runs in this game. Three may already be too many.
You aren’t going to burn out the bullpen because you have off days in this series.
He can’t throw strikes. Get him out and hope Hughes can.
Wang I think will make a great number 3 pitcher next year when Hughes and Chamberlain pass him. No need to get Johan.
melky – nice outfielder…maybe a fourth outfielder for the blue jays or some other also ran – and minky – wow – i cant believe we won as many games as we did.
I noticed that too, LC – - and its TBS, it’s not supposed to be so homer-biased!
well, this could be the biggest inning of the game (wang in the bottom of the 2nd and yanks in the top of the 3rd)
1-2-3 would be real niiiice
SJ
You know absolutely nothing about baseball, and the things you said tonight confirm that. Take out the 19 game winner b/c he was horrible in the 1st inning – which every baseball fan knows is his vulnerable time. Hm, throw in a 21 year old rookie into the deep end of the pool with his team down in his first playoff game. Yeah, I’m sure he’s mentally ready to step in for the Yankees Game 1 starter. Get real.. get quiet or get lost. You’re being idiotic and making Yankee fans look just as stupid,
I predicted he’d hit 100 in 4th-5th inning earlier and I was scoffed at.
We just need Wang to hold the fort down.
That was a busted hit and run, not a straight steal so I’m angry. I like seeing Joe being aggressive like that.
cano is one of the slowest runners on the yanks I dunno wat the f they r doing right now. We have five players who can steal a base and cano isnt one of them.
HA !!!!!!
missed badly on that out to guttierez… got a little lucky he swung at that and popped it up. ill take the out though.
Johan chamberlain Hughes wang and kennedy would be nice in two yrs. No?
this game makes me sick. the fact that the red sox will be celebrating while we are being eliminated makes me want to die.
I like Damon leading off the inning better anyway. Hopefully Wang makes quick work of Cleveland’s 2nd.
note to Dave – i highly doubt cano was straight stealing. it had to be a hit and run – pitch was 3 feet outside and in the dirt so nothing damon could do.
we suck but we beat u guys six times this season – it all makes sense now.
matt – you probably should anyway with a comment like that
Hey Wang is doing well in the 2nd inning, how about that fake SJ44?
Is that a Yankees Suck chant? Wow. New low. Why does one of the commentators sound like he’s from the hills or the swamps?
Think you’re right Boston Dave
There is no way that is him. He doesn’t speak to people like that.
two quick outs again!! Lets make the third quick!!
Greetings all. Just got home to find the Yankees down 3-1.
What is the mood in here tonight?
He wasn’t hit!! These broadcasters are horrible. Did they put out a casting call for morons?
well why hit and run with cano on base … cano is the third slowest player on the team and its not like sabathia is throwing nothing but strikes so far. It was a stupid call either way
Tony Gicas,
Absolutely true. So Wang is a little strong in the first. He’s done that before. No need to go into cardiac arrest in the first inning.
Take a valium SJ.
Matt is obviously a Red Sox troll with nothing else to do on a Friday night then whine in Yankee comment sections. Ignored
Wang will need to be the ace next year. Joba, Ian, and Phil cannot be expected to jump to 200 innings. And there lies the problem. Wang = #3. And Cano…. how the heck can our lean mean young 2B not swipe 2nd?
if this game tells us anything, its that joba absolutely must be a starter next year
pepper, depends on which population you are asking about. the sane or the insane people in here.
“What is the mood in here tonight?”
Suicidal.
Nothing new around here.
Yea – I think you’re right Mel. Surprising to hear in fact.
Darn, another ground ball with eyes. Again with 2 outs.
is it my imagination or has every single ground ball found a hole? Its alright wang is pitching alot better this inning – that pitch wasnt even in the zone
Got him!
wang – 5 outs, 7 baserunners – get him out!!!!
NICE!
Nice throw Jorge!
JORGE!
can you say…….. PERFECT THROW!!!! holy crap
Hip Hip Jorge – take that!
YEAH POSADA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well now, I think that half inning was a bit better than the bottom of the first.
Don’t you agree?
all i can say about that inning – WHEW!
That just means we’re due for some DP’s Dave…knock on wood.
nice throw by po see sizemore is fast, cano is slow that is the difference
I can see from some of the posts that the idiots and trolls are in rare form… Oh well.
Good inning for the Yanks… singles mean nothing with good defense.
Bats will come around.
That CS was more impressive. Cano is slow is the #7 hitter and Grady is the leadoff man.
Now we do our damage against CC.
CC has thrown 50 pitches in 2 innings. He will be gone by the 6th. Patience at the plate will pay off in the late innings.
Argh and fake SJ44 are the resident trolls for now. Until they change their handles.
big inning here…. even if we dont score, we need to make CC throw 20+ pitches.
Jorge is the f*&#*^#%$ MAN.
We will score 2 this inning.
Jeter 2-run homer. Because Damon will walk.
Hey SJ – good thing we took wang out. oh wait…
i was trying to stay away tonight cause i knew it would be full of friggen idiots declaring our postseason over in the first inning of the first game of the first series… some of you people are unbearable.
cmon yankees. time to bring the pain.
Luigi – It is the darn 2nd inning. What are you talking about “if this game tells us anything” — because you don’t think Joba will ever give up 3 runs in an inning?
That wasn’t me. Somebody posting as me.
I am watching the game with an Indians fan and he thought it would be “cool” to “have fun”.
see what I mean? When Victor Martinez throws out a batter, he went nuts. When Jorge does, he acts like it’s no big deal.
Whatever, just score some runs Yanks
ok top of the order – we need to get a run back now – i dunno what everyone is talking about becauze the indians bullpen isnt too shabby perez betancourt and fults were all fantastic this yr – only their closer blows
cano wasn’t running Look at the replay
I’ll have the Chilean sea bass with Saffron Markakis.
I want Torre gone if we don’t win!!!
Well, those innings got the heart pumping a little.
Valium’s anyone ??? You guys are hot. Both sides will settle down now and we’ll have a good game.
STOP THE PANIC NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, at least that Martinez/Cano play allows Damon to get some more looks.
Patience at the plate, and patience at the keyboard…
The Yankee way is to show some patience and grind it out. That mantra should apply to the fans as well. These games are a lot more fun to watch if you put the sharp objects down, come in off the ledge and just appreciate the fact that we can still watch the Yankees play in October.
We need to grind it out as well…
Tony & Dave – i’ll try to keep my negative thoughts to myself, but i am certainly not a red sox troll. i’m just praying NY gets it together tonight. GO YANKS!!!!
More comfortable the second time through the line up?
You can tell that with just one batter?
not that it helped
im actually not too worried about this game, we are only down 2 runs, CC has a high pitchcount, we will see borowski if they are still ahead, provided we hold them
even if we lose i have alot of confidence in pettitte and clemens in the next 2 games
ok… at least it was a 5 pitch AB… cmon derek
when cc strikes out a yank the announcers go nuts when wang does it the announcers r like well a strike out by wang and there is one down. wats that about
Uh Andrea, you ok there girlfriend?
matt – negative is ok when warranted. panic that the yanks are about to be eliminated is a little overboard.
Where did they get these announcers? It is almost funny to hear them. Note I said ALMOST.
Lori: I was just trying to lighten the mood. The Saffron Risotto guy was on–his commercial, anyway. And one day, during an O’s game, I decided I’d rather have the Saffron Markakis. I thought it was funny…
Markakis is just a funny word…
I guess nothing’s going to lighten the mood, is it?
yeah someone should set off a hand grenade in that announcers booth. we should all sign a petition cause listening to these fools is makin me sick.
I’m not a fan of the play by play guy.
Optimistically speaking, of course.
WOw Jeter looked really bad on that swing.
CC is turning up the heat. I haven’t seen look that silly before.
Sabathia is pitching no better than Wang is. Time will do him in.
Think Jeter was swinging hard or what ?
Dave,
Don’t be so sensitive. I don’t sense any anti-Yankee-ism. If it’s there, so what?
The reality is that Chip Carey is one of the better p-b-p guys around, and no one does a better job of analyzing the game than Bob Brenley. Tony Gwinn adds more than he takes away.
sabathia throwing first pitch fastball right down the pipe every time. not good – unless the yanks want to stop being patient and swing but i think CC knows they wont.
Guess we won’t see Jeter on Dancing with the Stars. Jeter will do something unreal in this game. He doesn’t like to be embarassed.
I guess we get different commercials here in New Orleans . . . I didn’t see the Saffron Risotto guy. I hate that commercial.
I think we need to get more games on the score board before the mood lightens in here.
Why should it take time for CC to get used to the mound? He is at home isn’t he?
By the sounds of the crowd, there’s tape recordings of a Boston crowd there or else they took Boston lessons. This should put fire in the bellies of the Yankees listening to drunken goofs.
play by play blatantly biased
Lucky thing Hernandez is not behind the plate, CC’d be gone.
Throw him out!! He doesn’t have control. Shoudn’t a major league pitcher have control?
cmon bobby… walk would be big… even if just to make CC throw more pitches this inning
Rebecca:
That’s probably because Bob Brenly is one of the announcers. Who obviously does not have much love for NYY
I wasn’t aware that Skip Caray was an Indians fan. Glad to see he remains impartial on his call. Pathetic!!!!!!!!!!
caray went into his strikeout call on a foul tip
So, where’s the genius who used to take such pleasure in posting other people’s comments about how Wang is not an ace and then ridiculing them endlessly? Go ahead, brother, start posting my old comments about Wang again…At least have the stones to admit you’re an idiot!
In the meantime…An “ace” pitcher who absolutely goes to pieces whenever anyone gets on base. Better yet, a pitcher with no control and no composure in one of the biggest games of the year for the Yanks. And this is what some of you call an “ace.” Lord help us… I’ve seen Little League pitchers who work better with guys on base than Wang.
Again, he’s a decent pitcher, who looks really good when his sinker is on and guys are chasing it. But an ace? Come on!!! I think we can close the book on that argument tonight…
Time to take the crowd out of the equation. They sound worse than some of you guys.
Good eye Bobby!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Jennifer, I just said the same thing (joking of course)
if he does it again, throw him out
MVP MVP MVP – Let’s go ALEX!!!!!!
Okay Alex my boy. Please come up big!!
YES!!! good eye bobby… 66 pitches and counting
Let’s Go A-rod! (clap clap clap clap clap) You get the idea.
Almost 70 pitches through 2 2/3…good plate discipline tonight.
Keep it going ARod
first pitch no less!
damn… once again first pitch fastball but arod got under it. ugh. 67 pitches through 3.
Well, this is a Yankees game.
You all know they’re not going to score till they put a five or six spot up in the seventh or eighth…
A-Rod needed to be patient there.
No excuse.
I missed it because I was typing. Did he look like he wanted to tie the game?
68
ALex don’t do that
HAHA that is a funny commercial.
Simple…Wang is not an ace, just a good pitcher that has yet to prove himself in the postseason. On the other hand, we keep CC’s pitch count skyrocketing,,,we will have him out no later than the 3nd of the 5th inning.
oh dear. bobby works a nice 7 pitch walk and a rod pops up to short.
0-1
Only Abreu and Damon have showed up so far.
AROD had the right idea there. Not the result he wanted, but CC’s been grooving over first-pitch fastballs all night. He just missed tying this game up there. Smart hitting
I don’t care WHO it is on the Yankees…if you swing at a first pitch, and make an out in the process, when the batter before you works a walk, you need to be fined $5000. That is just terrible.
There’s a sense that this game is already over.
Indians lead series 1 – 0.
Gabriel -
Relax. Wanger is our undisputed ace.
Jennifer – was that the Lou Pinella commercial you’re commenting on?
Mel – I got that same clap going.
Come on Wang . . . be tough!
Another high pitch count for CC. Things are not as bad as 99% of you make it out to be. Relax. Wear down the starter and win it later. We will be OK. You dont lose a series in inning 1 of game 1.
A-rod will also do something unreal tonight, he knew that was a bad at-bat.
wang already looks better on those first 2 pitches
Pettitte better have the game of his life tomorrow night… Otherwise, it’s another real short trip to the postseason for this team.
i could be wrong but i think wang has settled down
CC’s pitch count
1 – 33
2 – 16
3 – 19
total – 68
tick..tick..tick..tick..tick..tick..
I can’t wait to see Mike Lowell in pinstripes next season
Chicago – man you are so right – lets take EVERYTHING this man has accomplished and throw it out because he had a bad inning…. yeah makes perfect sense to me.
19 wins last year, 2nd in the cy young
19 wins this year, missed the first month of the season
he has more wins then anybody the last two years (that is the point right?? to win??)
but yeah he had a bad inning – lets get rid of him
ok i was wrong and will shut up
WARM UP HUGHES.
NOW
He left that up too high….ouch ouch.
Oritz 2-2, 1 Hr. 2 RBI
A-Rod 0-1, 0 Hr. 0 RBI
Not a good start!!
Wang!
Boston Dave – I think you jinxed him.
ok i wasnt really panicking after the 1st inning… but when do you think they should pull wang outta there??
Gabriel,
What are you talking about? Wang pitched a one-run game last year. Get your facts straight before you start spewing garbage about “proving himself”. He had a rough first inning. PERIOD.
Good for you Tony G. Glad someone is watching the game here.
4-1 Wang needs to start on 3 days rest.
Uhhh…remain calm. All is well.
Oh boy, had him 0-2 and then that. It didn’t even sound like he got it all.
This game is on the brink.
HUGHES OR MOOSE EVEN
Lori – i know… no more wang comments
I see the ledge is filling up quickly tonight.
JoeT – OK, so win totals mean everything? In that case, Wakefield should garner some votes for Cy Young this year. Please…
Everything he has accomplished?! What has Wang accomplished in the postseason? Nada…Niente…Zippo…Zilch.
Um this is starting to hit that borderline of “scary”.
Wang seems to overthrowing the sinker and it is not sinking.
Ok boys, time to get serious.
Yankee Chick,
You’re better than that. Relax, it’s only the 3rd inning.
Please don’t incite these guys on the board.
Wang’s location is gone. He’s been having problems with it for the entire second half. I don’t know what it is, but he just can’t put guys away or make them swing at close pitches when he gets ahead.
Though, frankly, having two on with one out and getting no more runs is also pathetic.
Not the kind of outs we want, but they are outs none the less.
Time to start thinking about whether you pull Wang soon to bring him back in Game 4 on short rest @ Home.
That is a question not a statement.
BS hit.
Nono vinny, I didn’t mean pull him this second. This game is by no means over
That was an honest question of “when”, not a panicked “hurry hurry get him out!” 
You know, I’m kind of glad I wasn’t here in May.
You all are scaring me.
As long as Wang keeps the Yankees within five runs or less, he’s not going to come out before the sixth.
LeBron James = standup guy.
yes Chicago – wins do mean EVERYTHING – i don’t care if he goes out and gives up 15 runs – if he wins, he wins – obviously you can’t pitch that bad and win. however the most important stat is wins and losses.
At the beginning of the year when Wake was the quickest to 16 wins then yeah he WOULD have gotten some Cy Young consideration if he kept that up – but guess what…. he STOPPED winning, so no more votes
Torre should pull Wang now, his command is terrible.
Viz against the lefties? WHAT!!??!
Wang better start stop throwing the off speed stuff which he seems to have no control and keep throwing sinkers… he has to remember that sometimes just the sinkers will work… Tony G is calling wang’s 85mph pitchers as sinking fastballs…Wang’s sinking fastball is 90+…
Ok. I’m here now. Let the fun begin.
People that are already putting things like “A-Rod: 0-1″ seriously need to get a life.
Wang is really elevating, horrible. (although, the babip is not helping)
let’s just ignore the numbers. they don’t matter. don’t look at wang’s mediocrity bordering on really bad pitching on the road all year. don’t look at sabathia’s dominance against lefties and just fire five of them into the lineup. this game isn’t important.
The Yankees will never win anything because they lack a guy that can go out and match zero’s vs the other teams ace.
Down 4-1 already? What the………
yeah you gotta let wang go to his pitch allowance, hes gonna have to pitch again and i’d rather he settle himself in this game then carry a bad performance to the next start. if its the 6th and hes still getting lit up, pull him.
Right, then.
LET’S GO YANKEES! LET’S SCORE SOME RUNS! KNOCK SABATHIA OUT OF THERE!
We have to break thru!!
My kingdom for a pitcher that can successfully put a guy away once he gets two strikes on him!!!
Wouter, the ARod 0-1 dude is a known RedSox loser
He’s getting alot of fly balls. Not usually a good sign BUT we’ve seen the Yanks come back from more than 3 down so valium for everyone!
Kj… they will never win a game? where have you been all season? or, ya know, the last 14 years?
Obviously it will be the offense that carries us to victory tonight….keep working pitch counts on CC and be smart with every other pitcher they throw at us…
Let’s hear it for the great rally-killer – Hideki Matsui. HUGE mistake by the organization to allow a strugling lefty to face Sabathia WHEN WE HAD OPTIONS!!!!! I’ll told you all this last week – Someone other than LowerDeki had to be the DH tonight.
Matsui’s failure to deliver in the 1st inning will prove to be the game.
Wang must stay in the game and tough it out. We have no one to go to, as Hughes could be need in Games 2, 3 or 4..
Wang *does not give up home runs.* So to see him give one up today tells me something is definitely not right. Either they’ve scouted the crap out of Wang, and are sitting on his pitches, or he is not feeling it. Either way, it’s tough to see this. We don’t look like the team of just a few days ago.
I am not a troll but honestly I felt that at bat by A-Rod was a make or break. They got a two out walk in the first and proceeded to score 3 runs. We got a two out walk and had A-Rod up with a first pitch that was perfect to hit and he just popped it up. That will be the epitaph on A-Rod’s time in NY. Just watch.
just keep making sabathia work…. good things will come
right KJ, which is why joba MUST return to starting, dont waste him like boston is with papelbon, relievers are highly overrated, come playoff time its all about the starting pitching
Hey – Clay (aka Joe) is here. Our good luck charm?
Yankees will win this game.
Lotsa baseball left
Is it at all possible for everyone to stop being so unhappy with EVERYTHING that’s going on?
YC,
Wang is just too strong because of too much rest. He’s already calming down. He’ll go through 7 innings, 100-110 pitches. He isn’t elevating near as much now. He’ll be fine, we’ll be fine too.
just a sidenote… but we see so many red sox fans coming over here just to trash the yanks – what is the point? do yankees fans do that to red sox fans? i would hope people have better things to do than spend 3 hours posting crap on message boards of their rival team, i know i do.
I’m a happily married guy, but I must admit (and I hope I’m not out of line) Yankees Chick is as cute as a bug in a rug! Adorable accent too.
Eff – Wang is crapping a horse and the lineup cannot cash in.
That said, after 6, they’ll pound their way back into this game.
i predict heroics from arod around the 8th inning – he has been so good late in games this year, and he seems to have SUCH a better attitude – i believe in him!
Matsui has no business in there tonight.
Good call on Matsui, Skip. He looks futile up there.
great at bat by hideki.. look at two strikes over the plate and swing at one off the plate
what accent?? i’m from california!
with wang so off, the yankees need to take sabathia out with a high pitch count and get to the indians bullpen. hitters need to make every at bat as long as possible. quick outs are the enemy right now.
Man, Godzilla has been overmatched so far. Hopefully that is the last time he faces CC
Instead of instituting a registration process for this site Pete Abe should just print tonight’s comment thread, hand out an IQ test and trim the fat. There are way too many posters in here who are either Boston trolls or have no idea what baseball’s all about, particularly postseason baseball. Some of the people here need to get on a roller-coaster to understand that if baseball were all “ups” and no “downs” we’d be watching all-star games and not a 162 game season.
Matsui is a mess at the plate right now.
JoeT – Yeah, the quality of a team’s offense has absolutely NOTHING to do with a pitcher’s win total… It must all be the pitcher’s doing if he gets a bunch of wins… Ummm, yeah, that’s it… It takes a whole lot more than just nice win totals to be a great pitcher.
More to the point… How good can a pitcher be if he can’t pitch effectively in the playoffs?
Part of this no doubt is that the Yankees haven’t played since Sunday.
Anyway, it’s still not technically late in the game. Not worried.
AAARRRGGHHHH – MATSUI IS TERRRRRIBLE!
Yankees Chick,
It is 8:00 and most Sox fans have finished their Algebra homework. They will go to bed soon. We will win this game against their bullpen.
Yankees Chick,
There’s a hint of Californian in your voice.
The truly sad part is we have wasted 4 walks by CC. It seems to be our Achilles every postseason. Either we walk 7 times in a game and get 3 hits or we swing at everything and 9 hits with no walks and score 3 runs at best. It is only 4 innings and I am already tired of this team. We have already seen Asdrubal Cabrera, Ryan Garko and Kenny Lofton get key hits while our guys just go up there to flail away.
YEAH !!!!!!!!!
YAH ROBBY!
canoooooooooooooooooooooooo
CANO-STER!
Robbie!!!!
Yeah ROBBIE!! Funny did you hear someone yell YEAH, near the mic!!
YEAH ROBBIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a shot !!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah Robby – Whoo hoo!!!
There’s an up for you bandwagoners.
Way to be RObbie
get that slob camera guy off the field
That was a nice swing. 2 hits, 2 dingers.
DON’T CHA KNOW…ROBBIE CANO!!!!!!!!
Robbie!
first pitch to melk was way high… ugh
chip carey tried to start a discussion with Brenly about the difference between the nl and al and pitching decisions. thanks chip were morons all the Yankee and Indian fans need chip carey to educate us. Its very relevant to the game were playing
This announcer is the most obviuos Cle fan. He was as quiet as the stadium on that HR
Ok – Got one back. Here we go Yankees, here we go (clap clap).
Well he is over 80 pitches, and the lead is cut in half. Wang just has to go out and throw zero’s we will come back!!
Nice Robbie. We needed that to sneak over that wall because 2-out hits are not our specialty.
Positive ABs. Now the Yanks need to win the inning.
i hate that asian guy (indians fan) and the tall bald guy who want to be on TV all day…
Tony Gwynn saying you have a good stroke is sort of like DaVinci saying that you’re a good painter.
4 innings – 80 pitches…. keep it up and he only goes 5-6innings
Not all the lefties will hit sabathia as well as Cano. Should have sat Matsui for Duncan. Matsuueey seems overmatched. he is 0-11 against c. see ya.
Dun”Can” get it done.
you guys who were all over the broadcast crew – you couldn’t be more right
this announcer should be tossed outta the both, for the HR “call”
We’re seeing Matsui in the absolute low point in his career. He’s not physically right and it shows. It’s killing Torre but he needs to sit him no matter what he thinks of him.
PH Shelley or Betemit for Minky leading off the 5th. We have 15 outs and we can’t just give them away. When you’re down two, the luxury of defense goes out the door.
Hhaha
Good call “Buchholz Stole”
This is when you put DUNCAN IN for Matsui and later replace him with Giambi late in the game.
C’mon Joe!
If Wang settles down and keeps it 4-2, Joe will be praised for his decision to keep him in.
I’m sure this has been discussed. but yeah:
1996 ALDS – Lost game 1 vs Rangers, Won in 4
2000 ALDS – Lost game 1 vs A’s, Won in 5
2001 ALDS – Lost games 1 + 2 vs A’s, Won in 5
2003 ALDS – Lost game 1 vs Twins, Won in 4
2004 ALDS – Lost game 1 vs Twins, Won in 4
And go robbie cano, shut those announcers the hell up baby.
“Robinson Cano cuts the Indians’ lead in half”.
Seriously? A 3-run deficit turns into a 2-run deficit, and that’s cutting it in half?
This one is not over yet!
Optimism!
Just wait til the squirrel shows up.
Everyone starting to calm down yet ???
27 outs is when the game is over.
Take a chill pill. Enjoy the game.
This is the key inning right here. CMW needs to shut them down this inning. Make it a quick 7 pitch inning and get the O back again.
I still think Sabathia is capable of going 7. Yeah, he’s at 80 but he’s perfectly capable of going 120.
chippin’ away
It was fairly obvious from the first inning of the game that these announcers were rooting against the yankees. When CC was pitching the first, they kept saying that he could get out of the inning giving up only 1 run even when it was 1st and 2nd 1 out and that it would be a successful inning. Then when Wang was pitching, they kept saying that the Indians needed perfectly placed hits to score their slow base runners. The guys sounded like the quintessential home team announcers wishing for the best for their particular team. And that team is the Indians for Chip, and Bob.
I want more Yankee home runs just so we can watch the cameraman with man boobs run around the bases.
the lefties are the only ones giving him trouble, only one positive right handed ab was arod’s walk
Good stats Rusty but I’ll take 1-0 every time.
chicago – i’m not gonna argue with you, i’d much rather enjoy this game. All i’m saying is look at the end result – if you win, it’s a win – and any win is a good win.
that being said, lets hope he can get his $#!T down and get us to the back end of our bullpen to give us a chance.
game is far from over. BUT, a couple things look clear:
Melky has to sit. he hasn’t hit in two months. damon should play CF AND duncan should be DH’ing. matsui looks awful and was 0-9 coming into the game against cc.
Hindsight is 20-20 I know, but no way Wang should have started tonight on 8 days rest. He should have thrown a simulated game in between starts and thrown Sunday at the stadium 5 days thereafter. Sinkerballers need regular starts not 8 days rest. Also, 4.91 era on the road and 2.75 at home this year. Could have gone Pettitte game 1 and clemens game 2. That way you also start your veterans on the road. Regardless of how this turns out, that would have been our best chance to win.
Homers are nice, but the Yanks will need to string together some clutch base hits to really get back into this thing.
All of you with Matsui comments are right – but it really makes you wonder. My theory on Torre has always been that his loyalty to his veterans is driven more by a need to be liked than anything else. This was not a sound baseball decision.
If Duncan k’d thrice tonight, I would have accepted it, because he had a better chance than a hobbled lefty coming off a .186 month.
Seriously Vinny..
The inmates are running the asylum right now.
“1996 ALDS – Lost game 1 vs Rangers, Won in 4
2000 ALDS – Lost game 1 vs A’s, Won in 5
2001 ALDS – Lost games 1 + 2 vs A’s, Won in 5
2003 ALDS – Lost game 1 vs Twins, Won in 4
2004 ALDS – Lost game 1 vs Twins, Won in 4
To add something to the above, the Yankees have won the first game of their last three playoff series. All losses.
Not that I’m giving up on this game, though.
if wang gets through 6 and keeps the indians at 4 i think we win this game
lalaa, i’m talking about the fan in the dugout who’s on the left top corner of the screen… cant he get a seat?? its annoying to see someone standing and waving and showboating ..
Whats up folks, just checking in. I, as ussual, can’t sit still long enough to blog tonight. Come on Yankees! Just 2 runs down!
Clay – werd.
Brian C – couldnt disagree with you more. if petitte got rocked, you’d say that wang should have started.
is it me…or did the ump just squeeze Wang on 3 straight pitches ???
My Name is Earl is on
the way cc’s is pitching to the righties the guy who should be in for matsui is giambi
Vinny: won’t happen.
I can’t remember the last time I heard a playoff announcing crew that I actually liked, can you?!
Of course, if you think these guys are homers…Remember Brent Musberger during the Yanks-Mariners Division Series in 1995? Now THAT was a case of completely over-the-top homerism!!! Brent wanted to have Griffey’s love child during that series!
It’s true, Matsui has looked awful so far today. Then again, before the game I could see Torre’s reasoning. It was hard to predict. Abreu, another leftie who has had some problems against lefties (up to the point where they sat him against some southpaws during the season not to mess with his swing), has had some great AB’s today.
Let’s hope Hideki can break out, soon!
Come on, CMW!
C’mon Wang!
great at bat by cano . takes a first pitch strike. doesn’t swing at two balls, and hits a home run on the fifth pitch.
there is absolutely no reason for any hitter to swing at a first pitch with sabathia having thrown so many pitches.
So what’s with the 6foot marker for the runner at first. Is there something magic about 6 feet? And why red to the right and green to the left?
“All of you with Matsui comments are right – but it really makes you wonder. My theory on Torre has always been that his loyalty to his veterans is driven more by a need to be liked than anything else. This was not a sound baseball decision.”
Stick to your day job.
Please TBS, get that 9 foot graphic out of there!
wow, great play rob
Nice play on both ends.
Okay, this is really random but I like the way the play by play guy pronounces Guitierrez.
Just random FYI.
matsui was 0 fer 9 against they guy not exactly a shock to see hes over matched
randy – i agree with you except sabathia is throwing a first pitch fastball down the middle EVERY time. might make sense to rip a couple so he knows they might swing at it. he knows they wont
yeah, HRs are nice, but we need a base runner or two. CC’s pitch count is rather high for the 4th inning, and throwing that many fastballs, do you think he’ll last til the 7th?
Baba Booey!
Have to go to bed now, unfortunately (I hope I can catch the entire game with you guys tomorrow!), let’s go Yanks!
The highlight of this game so far has been the Frank TV commercials
Tony Gywnn sounds just like Bubba in Forest Gump.
yeah seriously, it would be so much better for all fans of their respective teams if we were just allowed to have our regular season broadcasters, im sure even the Cleveland fans would rather be listening to their own guys in the booth, these guys don’t seem to really be familiar enough with the details of either teams seasons, MLB should rethink this stuff, it very much affects my enjoyment of watching these games (and apparently others as well!)
Lawnmower: “the luxury of defense goes away” – i think we’d regret having giambi lunging around at first base pulling a buckner this early in the game
Tony Gwynn can stay, but who would have thought Yankee fans would miss Michael Kay this much
Did Tony G just say ARod had a slow start this season?
Looks like another first round exit for the Yankees. That first inning hit by Lofton reminded me of the soft pop hit in the seventh game of the 2001 World Series. Bang, series over! Boy, this is getting old. Well, the good news is there are only 133 days to pitchers and catchers.
Really Mar? I’m not impressed by them. He has the voice down, but not the looks or the mannerisms.
What is this Frank TV you speak of? I havent seen a single commercial or promo for it since I started watching postseason baseball on TBS.
I am amazed that Wang has only given up 4 runs…if the ump takes away the strike at the knees for a sinkerball pitcher ON THE ROAD….it usually kills any chance of victory….wow !
You can always lower the sound and listen to John & Suzyn.
Don’t kid yourselves… the only thing MLB thinks about is the BILLIONS, with a B, that their industry receives for the broadcast rights.
I’m not a fan of the way TBS is handling these games. It’s crap, quite frankly…
Oh, and who thought Craig Sager would be a good idea? Come on!!!
Q- Are you kidding me? Didn’t you see Rusty’s stats?
reasonable statement q. real reasonable
Baserunners, baserunners, and more baserunners. From there, run producers …. BIG TIME. Get hungry.
oh thank god!
Randy the Man..
I have to say I agree with Boston Dave. You don’t have to swing at every first pitch strike, but A-Rod had the right idea putting some doubt in his mind. Otherwise Sabathia could just groove em over to start every hitter without any consequences.
Whoo! Okay, LET’S GO YANKEES! LET’S SCORE SOME MORE RUNS!
Three would do nicely…
Have make C.C. throw 20 pitches this inning.
meaning – the broadcast is called by their own teams in their respective home markets, they can get whoever the hell they want to call the game for the national audience.
even the tech crew is better at YES, the replays, camerawork and highspeed are so much better than this. We would have had like 10 different angles of Johnnies 1st inning HR within 10 seconds of the hit, it seemed like they COULDNT show the replay on TBS until after the call was made, and then it was only one crappy angle. TBS sucks.
Yeah baby. Wang much better now. We need to get to CC now.
Think small and hope for big.
Can’t take these announcers. They have no feel for the game. Turning to Sterling and hoping the delay isn’t that noticeable.
the radio broadcast is always about 3 seconds faster than the TV broadcast, sorta kills the anticipation in watching the game unfold if you hear what happens moments before.
Rebecca!!!!
We need your optimism!!!! Let’s have a big inning.
They just have to keep grinding. CC is tough. You just have to hope Wang can keep it at 4 and they can generate some offense.
Wang? He is what he is. A good pitcher but not the guy with #1 shutdown stuff. That’s why Joba will be in the rotation next year. He has #1 starter type stuff.
Down only 4-2 after 4 innings is in NO WAY too far back…especially for this Yankees team. This inning we even up the score OR take the lead. Go Yankees !…A-Rod is gonna MASH one !!! Stay Positive Everyone !….this game is OURS !
Alright Wang. Keep us in the game.
Let’s work a 20 pitch inning off Sabathia and chase him off. The offense will come in for you!
I hate to say it, but Cleveland does have a decent bullpen. That is to say, you might actually regret having C.C. out of this game.
ok, 4-2, wang looked better. now to hang at least a 15-20 pitch inning on sabathia.
The last time I remember see a lefty that weighed over 2 bills pitch in the postseason, he was walking off the mound of a World Series game after only 1 inning with a sore back just days after bragging that he never stretches or works out and still can pitch fine. Too bad that will never happen to benefit the Yanks.
yeah guys I’m in FL now, you don’t realize how lucky you are to have Michael Kay and Ken Singleton (al lieter, john flarety, joe girardi, paul o’neil…) because outside of NY I think every announcer just gets on my nerves – there was a game on espn that I put on my XM Radio and PREFERRED to listen to John and Suzyn.
A Tampa Yankee,
Frank TV is a commercial with a look alike of Jack Nicholson (at least it looks like a bit younger Jack). I don’t know how you haven’t seen it. it premieres right after Thanksgiving!
this is the key inning. cc @ 80 pitches. don’t even have to score, but get a runner or two on, see 4-6 pitches an at bat, and we’ll be in their pen by/during the 6th.
of course, a run or two would be nice.
Thanks Joe, you listened. C’mon Shelley!
Shelley sighting.
SJ44, totally agree with you. Joba EASILY is the #1 starter on this staff, then, IMO, comes Andy or Wang, then IPK and Hughes. That starting 5 is gonna be very good in 2008.
Woah man, Shelley’s in?
So is Minky really hurt?
Shelley, I’m a bit surprised!
I think it’s safe to say Shelley is trying to hit a HR.
This has to mean that Minky is hurtin’.
Do you think Minky’s foot is hurt (as these announcers speculated) or that Joe is reading some of this group’s comments?
LET’S GO YANKEES! YOU CAN DO THIS! YOU WILL DO THIS! LET’S SCORE SOME RUNS!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
that camera man is fired. taking doug’s glove out now?! ugh
either Minky is hurt or Joe feels a sense of urgency to score…. good AB already for Shelley
Way to go Shelley to work the count.
Wang is no ACE. 7 days rest and road game against their Ace.
Dont tell me you didn’t see this coming
Jeets wife
I was being sarcastic and I hope you were as well. TBS has shown promos and commercials for that show about 16 billion times in the last 2 days. I cant think of anything more annoying since the time FOX decided it was a good idea to promote Girls Club during the World Series and it lasted 2 episodes.
Duncan delivers!
way to make him work !
Nice 8 pitch AB.
sloth lives! baby f-in ruth!
thats it shelley…. very composed for a first post season AB
Shelley works his magic. Let him be the catalyst that chases Sabathia!
God these announcers are stupid. Joe pushes the right button, be brought in Duncan cause Doug was hurting.!!
Here we go Yankees . . . Let’s go Yan – kees! (clap, clap, clap clap clap).
Good job, Shelley!
ya know, Shelley has a good eye.
two of those pitches were really hard to lay-off, still, he worked the count and got a hellva liner-drive.
now ya Gotta give Torre AND the Dunc-man props on THAT !
anyone have any idea of wang’s performance by team this year? just sitting here thinking that while he does have his dominant performances, he looks like an average pitcher against stronger teams. for example, with the exception of one start this year, boston has always given him problems. i have no data but wondering if anyone else has it or has a subscription to BP
that’s true dave… but even if it’s a good pitcher that comes in next, it might help the yanks to see someone new
Where’s Scooter?
90……
froemming has been pretty reasonable tonight
Too bad we cant combine Shelley’s offense with Melky’s Defense. We could call him Shelkey Dubrera.
Good eye Damon !!!
we break it open this inning
That’s it Johnny. Make him throw those pitches.
wow…. those are VERY close pitches but the ump has been very consistent… cant argue that
shelley duncan just had an incredibly good at bat especially for his first at bat in the playoffs. and not because of the hit, but how he took pitches. 6-7 pitches. excellent.
brenley argueing balls and strikes. unbelievable
LET’S GO YANKEES! KEEP THIS GOING!
C’mon Captain . . .
i smell a rod coming to the plate…
time to Wear CC Down….heart of the order…this is going to be a big inning for the Yankees…can ya feel it ?
Come on Jete. Have a good at bat!!!
Lets go Captain!
Haha, Jennifer… We all know what they SHOULD be saying, just be happy you know baseball well enough to know the difference.
Remember that they are speaking to a national audience, and it’s much more acceptable nationally to root against NYY than for…
BUNT here
Did you see any squirels today Rebecca,,,,
yeah, Shelley! woo hoo! tying run at the plate…think positive!
TWO ON AND NOBODY OUT! this is the “big” inning,I can feel it!
O’ Captain, my Captain !
who is screaming into the microphone?
NICEEEE.
Sabathia’s GONE after this inning. Let the offense awaken for Wang!
UPDATE, 8:23 p.m.: Torre seems to be trying to get some offense going here by pinch-hitting Shelley Duncan. Doug Mientkiewicz is on the top step of the dugout cheering, not in the trainer’s room.
By the way, that cameraman who ran him over was fired by YES. He was a freelancer based in Cleveland.
- I knew it
I wonder if CC said “Watcha u talkin ’bout Willis”
Third time through the order…
exactly the inning the yanks need…
Andrea-
I was wondering that too…
anyone warming up in the cleveland bullpen??
seems like they’re trying to buy some time here
i think the aura of the Yankees is in the back of CCs mind now!
We don’t have Kay today. It is TBS announcers!
Did we ever find out who the camera man was? Where he worked. All I heard was a local news station.
now is the time for the captain to deliver
take some pitches derek…. cmon
Drag bunt to 3rd
Gotta feel bad for the guy freelancers gigs are not so dependable. Like Minky said it was an accident.
What’s with this AL vs. NL discussion??? Oh I hate these announcers.
If I was Jeets I would bunt and make fat @$$ get off the mound and make a play
derek is WAY late on the fastball… cmon derek
I guess I didn’t realize that Doug was in the dugout. It is still very early in the game, suprising that he ph.
why was there a YES camera man? YES shouldn’t even be there….
this would be the time for a BB!
cmon baby!!! load em up derek
Jennifer,
Supposedly, it was a YES cameraman.
sabathia seems to be distracted by Shelley on 2nd
Captain Intangibles comes up clutch!
Damn. Well, hes at 100 pitches..
Ok – but this next pitch is #100. C’mon Bobby. Make him work. C’mon C’mon. . . . . . .
doesn’t seem like CC is hitting his “spots”
These key AB’s are going to find a way to Alex until he delivers.
i heard he was a local ny camera man. From what I heard in Doug’s interview he someone joked if he worked for Yes he would be fired.
sabathia is up in the zone.
CC is going to fold like a cheap suit !!!!
Come on Bobby !!!
Yeah baby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Woot! LETS GO AROD!!!
YEAH BOBBY!
WHOO!
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Lori,
Unfortunately, TBS chose to put three NL announcers on the AL ALDS.
Here come the Yankees. . . and look who’s up!!!
YES!!!!!! another glass of wine I pour!
Atreyu!!! no its Abreu!
El Colmaduce! Or whatever
They HAVE to walk ARod here.
A ROD! NOW IS YOUR TIME!!!
wow lets go jorge make them pay
Those cowards! Those smart, smart, cowards!
how can they disrespect Jorge like this? are they stupid?
Doug felt so terrible in the interview when he heard he was supposedly fired.
Alex getting some R-E-S-P-E-C-T.
GO JORGE!!
Jorge can make an extra few million on this AB alone… cmon Jorgy
great game by abreu
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jorge, make them pay
I knew that was coming, no way he pitches to Arod here.
Let Po do it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, Jorge, make them pay for that, okies?
LET’S GO YANKEES!
BOOOOOO!!!
Yeah, Bobcat – NL is all they know.
THAT WAS ALL SHELLEY
YES@!!
that’s right, Bombers, manufacture those runs!!
make him pay jorge, make him pay
I think Jorge is going to do some damage here!!!!
Our favorite bat boy is there!!
YES cameras are there because of the hour-long pre and post game shows.
They are walking A-Rod. How stupid, this is his least favorite postseason situation, runner on third less than 2 outs, this is where he fails the most, infamously in game 4 of the 04 ALCS with a chance to go up 3 runs in the 8th he struck out on 3 pitches.
LOL and they walk…
Time for Posada. Hip hip…..
For those of us stuck at work with gamecast and no TV, how does Abreu get to 2nd and Johnny not score on that ball?
how ’bout a squeeze play??
perfect situation, with one out
The cameraman was a free-lancer working for YES and was let go.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
make sabathia throw a fb down the middle… he has no control right now
just let CC walk the tying run home…I’m down with that!
reason # 182373 I couldn’t be a baseball player: if someone intentionally walked me, I’d get pissed and try to run out there and hit the ball anyway.
That dude that’s sitting by the mic going “uh no no no” is really starting to bug me.
At least a tie right here !!!!!!!
NO DP !!!!!
Long fly or a hit will do it.
I wouldn’t pitch to Arod either
A Yankee fan is by the Mic. LOL clapping on all balls.
Pen is busy busy busy!!!
andrea – agreed
…And that’s why I’ve been saying for two weeks that Shelley should have started tonight.
this umpires strikezone is ridiculuos
now that is a strange decision by abreau to swing at the first pitch, but you can’t argue with the result.
sabathia legs are wasted.
that’s why he’s been up in the zone throught the inning
Yanks gotta do it here. CC is on the ropes, 100+ pitches. get to their bullpen!!!
holy crap…. green light? that is confidence
who is yelling “no no no” after pitches….i hear it on the tv. is it Pena?
Come on Jorge… COME ON
JOR – GE! JOR – GE!!
Jorge can’t catch up to that high heat!
this umpire is so short, he doesnt even have to squat to get in position
Hes thrown about 6 fastballs in a row.
Ok..who is the Pinch Hit Hero today ???…PLEASE don’t let Matsui bat !!!
Way to go, Rizzo the Rat!
Give Sabathia credit battling back from 3-0. C’mon Matsui, you owe Joe a good AB.
It’s the 5th inning and a radar gun finally shows up. Nice work TBS.
Ah, not his time. It’s all right, bases still loaded, CC’s not out of the inning yet…
“now ya Gotta give Torre AND the Dunc-man props on THAT !”
Duncan should have been in the line up in the first place.
UGH now Matsui is up. ;( Come on do something!
time for matsui to deliver…. this is it
poor AB’s this game vs. cc for Posada.
c’mon matsui… justify joe’s faith in you!
matsui will come through here
Ouch. I just hurt my wrist banging on the table. Darn. Time to break out Hideki . . .
i hope i have to eat my words, but here would have been the time I put duncan in.
OK…this is the first postseason bonehead move by Torre if Godzilla does not come through…
UGH MATSUI!!!
Squander! Matsui sucks!
Why oh why was Posada swinging.. Oh well, next inning.
Wasted that inning.
well, the good news is sabathia is done… we can score off of that bullpen
still plenty of time left…
BUT COME ON. that was a big opportunity. sucks to waste it.
kill me
We got one run, we’ll get more. It’s still early. I don’t expect CC to be in the game that much longer.
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Sabathia is up to 114. It’ll be interesting to see if he comes out for the 6th.
Look at the positive side.
We are only down by one run.
CC’s pitch count is up.
How do you swing 2-0 Matsui?!!! At least make him throw you a strike!
Chip Chip chipping away. I wouldn’t expect to see CC in the 6th. Wang has to hold them now and we still have lots of at bats left. . .
damn, well the good news is that CC is up to 114 pitches
why is that dumbass swining on 2-0…Bad call having Matsui as DH… Should have put in Giambi there.
F***
CC is not long for this game. 114 pitches so far. Down one run, not a bad place to be. I like our chances now.
anyone else watching this game on MLB.Com and having problems with the video
ryan h – are you even watching the game?
We still need Wang to shut them down!
why in the hell is Matsui in the freakin lineup??
Based on the ABs that Matsui has had, Posada was put in a tough position. He knew he had to expand the zone there and try to get the job done.
Clutch hit….anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Man, I can’t believe they strand 3 here. Jorge and Matsui not producing that much tonight.
At least Sabathia won’t be in after this inning anymore. He’s so done.
Posada overmatched in two straight at bats and MATSUI SUCKS!!!!!!!
Sabitha is finished.
114 pitches
has to be one of his shortest outings of the season.
ps. Jorge let him off the hook by swing at those high pitches.
if the guys right behind a-rod don’t hit, we won’t win games. that’s posada and matsui, 0-6, 0-4 w/RISP. bad.
We’ve let them off the hook way to much.
Yankees will win this game
yanks still win this game… but those are two godawful AB’s by a pitcher just begging to be driven from the game.
i’m not a torre hater, but his desire to stick w/ “his guys” (re: matsui) is utter blindness.
matsui does not belong in the lineup. Duncan needed to be the DH tonite. Giambi tomorrow.
We just let him off the hook.
Unbelievable AB’s by Posada and Sui!
“Look at the positive side.
We are only down by one run.
CC’s pitch count is up.”
Rafeal Betancourt will probably go 2 Innings. He’s one of the best setup men in baseball…
I know that it is getting tiring watching Matsui bail out on pitches. Time for Joe to do something.
this is hard to watch
Good luck is on its way!
When i clicked at the bottom of the post by Peter, the number of comments was “777″
I’m feeling it guys. Momentum has changed. We will be in their bullpen and Wang can go a few more. Let’s put these b@st&*#s away!
So far, the offense has wasted two on, one out AND bases loaded, one out opportunities. Totally unacceptable. If they lose this game, there is PLENTY of blame to be spread around. Everyone will blame Wang, but no one will blame Jeter and Jorge. They might blame Matsui, but more likely they’ll blame Joe for playing him in this game at all.
Wang is at 76. It would be helpful if he had an efficient 5th.
they’ve all been way behind on CC’s fastball (except damon and cano’s blasts). jeter was overmatched, even abreu went 3rd base line. good thing he is out of there.
if there was ever a place to pinch hit Giambi, it was right there. Sure Giambi is a lefty and might not have fared much better, but keeping in Matsui, whos got a bad knee, 0-11 with 2 bad at-bats already tonight? I don’t get it.
Jeter also should have bunted!
Not to second guess, but I too was a bit surprised Duncan didn’t start over Matsui. Michael Kay was saying today that Joe was considering Duncan at 1st not DH. I hope Shelley at 1st now doesn’t come back to bite us.
Wang needs to hold them here. Not a good thing to walk the first batter.
That was an inning that could come back to haunt the Yankees.
Two bad AB’s by Posada and especially Matsui. A 2-0 count, you can’t swing at a pitch over your head. Just work the count. He’s been brutal for a month now and it doesn’t look like he is coming out of it. He’s killed them tonight.
Leadoff walk. Not good. May be time to get Wang out of this game and go to the bullpen. He hasn’t been sharp at all tonight.
ball 4.
Posada ( total surprise ) and Matsui ( totally predictable ) have killed us today. Each one of them have already left 5 men on…..that is SO NOT Clutch….No Matter…Wang shuts them down and we either get CC totally spent OR a shot at their bullpen bums…either way…we are only 1 down and lotsa baseball left here…Stay Positive
Anybody know the last time Matsui got a hit????????
First of all, OUTSTANDING atbat from Shelley there. Even if he flied out to center, he did a great job. Matsui looks horrible and they now let Sabathia off the hook twice. Can’t do that in one game and expect to win. Not that they can’t win, but you’re working your way uphill all night that way.
Well it’s been a good matchup so far, both starters stink.
We can and will get to their pen !!!!!!!!!!!!
Cmon double play
Ok Wang dont blow this
its amazing the yanks got 6 walks with sabathia throwing a first pitch strike most of the time… wang needs to do that same. he needs to be ahead in the count
matsui and posa – nada stink – needed to start duncan and molina. they are killing us along with cmw. if this doesnt turn out right, dont blame arod. he hasnt gotten a good pitch to hit yet
What’s wrong with Wang, why is he suddenly wild these past games?
Man – Wanger is looking bad.
Thankfully everyone is remaining calm and not overreacting.
Were Torre to make all of the changes the board is suggesting, the Yanks would have made 6 pitching changes already and pulled half of their starting line-up for pinch hitters. LOL
Calm down, everyone. The Yanks are only down one run with a lot of baseball left.
in 241 innings, Sabathia allowed only a grand total of 37 walks.
tonight, he walked 6 in 5 inn.
posting during this game is hilarious, i keep pacing around my livingroom like a caged animal, screaming obscenities, turning my hat around everytime im trying to get some different mojo going, retreating back here in between high-tension moments to soak up as much chatter as i can. im gonna need to be sedated.
This will be the third first round exit in a row for the bungler Joe. There is no way the Yankees come back to win this series. It is the curse of 2004. Once you blow a 3-0 lead in a seven game series, you will never see the second round again!
I would have liked to see Giambi there and see what he would have done. I have zero faith in Matsui…maybe his long lost cousin of the Rockies, but not our Matsui!
Huge out by wang, just need 2 more outs, baby!
What in God’s name is Craig Sager doing on this broadcast. NOBODY CARES
they should get wang out now. too many fly ball outs is just asking for someone to tatoo one
I”m sick. Totally ILL.
And this play-by-play guy absolutely loves the Indians, what a disgrace
not good.
…
I am sad now.
ugh… and they just did. just awful.
freakin lovely!
Can someone shove that drum stick where the sun doesn’t shine. Does that jerk really have to put the mic next to it. I do like my hearing you know.
Dammit.
Guys Wang just sucks right now.
now, i want to blow my brains in.
CC sucked today, but Wang sucked worse.
NYY is TOTALLY SCREWED if they don’t win today with their ace, and with CC pitching so poorly
Stayed too long with Wang. Once he walked another guy, he has to be out of the game.
Only thing we can learn from tonight is, if there is a Game 5, Andy Pettitte has to pitch that game.
You can’t pitch Wang the rest of this series. He just isn’t good enough at this stage of his career to trust in big games.
An awful outing tonight. Hopefully, its his only outing of this series.
Ok….Hope I am wrong but that was the nail for Game 1.
Come back tomorrow night and get Game 2 with Pettitte.
Stick a fork in Wang, he’s done.
Pitiful performance. He should have a talk him Jim Mora.
wow, the announcers so did not sound this excited when the yankees were trying to rally last inning, although it’s too much to ask for them to try
Wang has been plain awful.
Yanks take a lead in the first, he blows it.
Yanks get back in the game in the 5th, he gives it up again.
Ace my ass!
And that guy threw out the first pitch? Does that mean we should have Freddy and his frying pan throw out the first pitch this Sunday?
great, nice job wang. really. we’ve battled and have been one or two hits away from an 8 run outburst. you on the other hand are trying to give this one away. seriously….6 runs. who are you, tom glavine? pathetic excuse for an ace.
“Leadoff walk. Not good. May be time to get Wang out of this game and go to the bullpen. He hasn’t been sharp at all tonight.”….and why can’t YOUR BASEBALL KNOWLEDGE be passed on to Torre….Joe simply can NOT tell, intil it smacks him dead in the face, that a pitcher needs to be pulled in ANY situation….AND HE LEAVES HIM IN ??? Classic pitching staff bungling that has been going on ALL SEASON…I don’t know why I expected any less.
wow, the announcers so did not sound this excited when the yankees were trying to rally last inning, although it’s too much to ask for them to try to be impartial
I cant believe we are listening to some idiot with a drum…
Even if we lose this game, we all never expected a sweep.
Wait to hit their pen and hope for the best.
“tonight, he walked 6 in 5 inn.”
And they scored NONE of them. That’s HORRIBLE.
And Wang just looks awful. He can’t locate his pitches at all. They lay off the sinker because they know he can’t throw it for strikes and just wait for something in the zone, and then they hit it.
Basically, this is a team-effort of a disaster. Bobby is the only one that’s come through with RISP and Wang has NOTHING.
They could have won this game with just a decent start by Wang and DH’ing Shelley. Instead, on a night when Sabathia doesn’t have great stuff, they squander a great opportunity…pathetic.
What a tragedy
We have no hope in the postseason. Our number 1 starter gives up 6 in 4.2 innings, while Beckett shuts out the Angels without a walk. SCREWED
another flyball… what is joe waiting for???!!!
Arods fault
Need an out right about here.
Wang is great giving up the momentum in games. How many times have the team either given him a lead or the team scores to make the game closer he gives runs right back.
I think it’s funny that everyone is calling for Wang’s head. I know he has pitched a terrible game tonight, however he had the 2nd most wins in the majors this year. He had a bad night. Get over it.
oh so NOW he gets the pen going
riots in taiwan
I called it, Ross Ohlendorf will be the first relief pitcher we see by the Yankees in this series.
I swear I’m banging my head against the wall in my room listening to these guys.
I’m sorry, but I will puke if anyone ever says Wang is the ace of our staff. He does not have ace stuff. But the bigger question is why is this bust still in the game? How many runs is too much for our beloved coach? Again if this guy is our ace, then this doesn’t say much about our current staff. 19 games or not, this guy is NOT an ace.
Wang is not pitching like an ace……if he doesn’t get better, we’re not winning anything…we don’t have a Beckett, thats what we need to go with all of these other #2 starters Pettite
Wang is not pitching like an ace……if he doesn’t get better, we’re not winning anything…we don’t have a Beckett, thats what we need to go with all of these other #2 starters Pettite
Good night.
How many frakiing runs with 2 outs tonight!!!
Finish it monkey boy!!!
Wang is ace material if he can get his sinker down. He’s just leaving them all up in the zone.
I think the Yankees have a better history when they lose the first game of the ALDS.
There is the problem with our team. We cant score consistently when we need to when other teams get two out hits like they are nothing
We should have dealt Lofton a career ending injury when he was in NY.
This is miserable to watch.
Pull him NOW
Not having anyone warming up during this meltdown should cost Torre, and Guidry, their jobs, no matter what the outcome
i guess joe feels like he doesn’t want to blow the pen for a game they probably lose anyway
can we DL wang and bring up Ian K? Heck, I’d even take Igawa, Chase Wright, Kevin Brown, Jeff K, Javier V., even Guidry. This team has no friggin heart.
wang blows wang blows wang blows wang blows wang blows wang blows and finally wang blows
a couple of key hits the other way and this game could easily be 7-3 Yanks
Joe is a moron….PULL THE PITCHER !!!,,,,Why isn’t giving up 6 runs in 4 innings enough ? Will it only be after we are down 7-3 or 8-3 that Joe WAKE UP…they are playing baseball out there !!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Yeah sure, Fruitbat. Thanks for the optimism. What’s next, the end of the world ?
This might be one of those 10-8 games.
Look, I love Graig Nettles. But what the heck was that?
somebody get him a body bag!!
(i.e. i think wangs done)
time to get ohlendorf in there…
were still in it! dont give up, boyos
“You can’t pitch Wang the rest of this series. He just isn’t good enough at this stage of his career to trust in big games.”
That’s BS. He had a 1.35 ERA in the postseason his rookie year, and had a quality start in his only start last year. However, he was a DISASTER tonight. A total disaster. Though, the offense has also been horrible. How can you get SIX walks and score NONE of them? It’s just horrendous.
Okay, now, that wasn’t really the inning we needed.
Still though, you play twenty seven outs.
The game is not over yet.
LET’S GO YANKEES!
You just wonder why he is staying so long with Wang. A bad decision. Its clear from the first inning on he was struggling.
After the walk to start the 5th, you have to get him out of the game. After the HR, its a no brainer. To keep him out there longer is just a bad decision.
This is Joe’s weakness as a manager. He stays too long with guys who struggle, especially if he “trusts” them.
Its hard to understand, even rationalize the logic of staying this long with a guy who had NOTHING tonight.
Gotta hope Andy is on tomorrow. Somebody on this staff has to step up and make up for the fact they don’t have a shutdown ace. Its Andy’s turn tomorrow night.
hey fruitbat, why dont you take it elsewhere throwin in the towel after 5 innings into game 1. If i see you back here rooting for this team after they win the next 2, im not gonna let you live it down.
Its best 3 out of 5 chump.
Damn, Jeter broke the wrong way on Lofton’s hit….
Joe Torre is racist in Kenny Loftons eyes
Terrible terrible terrible
Well, too much rest makes Wang a hitable guy.
HOWEVER – CC and the music factory is probably done for the night so let’s do some damage to the tribe’s pen!!!!
GO YANKS!
he was way too strong. The sinker wasn’t sinking. Major mistake not making sure he pitched on no more than 5-days rest.
When the ALDS roster was announced, many were saying that Ohlendorf will be last guy in the bullpen.
Now he is the first guy and hopefully, he will make a difference. 4 runs are not insurmountable in four innings.
All in all, this is a crappy performance by the entire team. We need Pettitte to come up big tomorrow.
Did anyone else’s sound just switch so we’re listening to the Cleveland crowd drown out the announcers? What station are we watching, some independent, local station?
Someone should tell Torre that the playoffs have started. Wang has been giving up the fly ball all night.
Just awfull. How disheartening
Ohlendorf in. Probably too little too late but let’s see
Ohlendorf in. Probably too little too late but let’s see
Nice job Joe…REAL NICE….we have pulled to within in one at 4-3, and because you have NO CLUE how to manage the pitching staff, we gotta chase FOUR RUNS NOW ??? SUPER JOB JOE !,,,,where do I cast my vote for Torre as Manager of the Year ???
It would have been nice to be able to start Wang at home where he is so much better. However, there were really no other options this year, especially with Clemens injury. Hopefully the team can still overcome it.
Can anyone else not hear a word the announcers are saying? Thank goodness for the little things.
Like we can’t come back from 4 runs down?
Don’t panic!
Have some faith.
Yes, TBS, sucks.
Two coaching errors tonight by Joe. First, should have pulled Wang sooner. He has had very little control.
Second, no ph Giambi for Matsui has killed us….
This one is in the books. Fingers crossed for tomorrow night. Did not expect a split in Cleveland. How big will Clemens game 3 start be. Hope he is dealing.
Fruitbat=Troll
First, Wang hasn’t pitched consistently, and like an ace, all season. But second, this is why we desperately need the Torre era to come to an end. His in-game deficiencies are never more glaring than in the post season. And this time is made for that time of year.
Please, Joe. Go fishing.
Hey Ross, there was a runner on 1st by the way.
How did the yankees do against the indian’s bullpen during the regular season?
One of my predictions, Yankees comeback, Ohlendorf gets the win.
Olendorf for president!
Andy has been very good in game 2′s. But we still have some work to do tonight with the best offense in the bigs.
IF they lose this series… this game really is an argument for Torre not to be re-signed. anybody with eyes could see wang didn’t have it all night. and you HAVE TO BE PREPARED to pull him after the BB to start the inning. probably the turning point of the game. i hope it wasn’t the turning point of the series.
Let’s go Yankees!! #27 in 07!!!
Don’t give up a walk here
Pete: Please think about instituting registration sooner rather than later if, indeed, all you need to do is push a button. This board is awful…the overreactions, trolls, and negativity have driven me away tonight. Good night.
oh my gosh, what a nitemare!
thanks, pete, for calling torre out on leaving wang in too long. i’d take it a step further and say he should’ve been out after the 2-run shot, but either way, his night was over before joe realized it. it’s a short series and we’ve got a short time to do the damage.
Theseannouncers hate the Yasnkees and the guy is banging the drum still!
Not looking great here.
Why is everyone giving up on this game already? it’s the 5th inning…
I was just watching 30 Rock…what happened?
what an awful game this is. wang was a disgrace tonight. yanks continue to fizzle with RISP. let’s see how this 200+ million dollar team reacts to a must win game tomorrow
*On Thursday, April 19th, we were losing to Cleveland 5-2 and we scored 6 runs in the 9th.
LOOK – it ain’t over, until the fat guy (Giambi) swings@!!
5 game series, we shall prevail
GO YANKEES!!!
* On Thursday, April 19th, we were losing to Cleveland 5-2 and we scored 6 runs in the 9th.
LOOK – it ain’t over, until the fat guy (Giambi) swings@!!
Nothing happening tonight for the Yankees.
It’s a blow out now.
This is getting ugly.
The object of the game is to get 3 outs is it not?? Do the billionaire idiots not know how to count….GET THAT THIRD FRAKKING OUT THE REST OF THIS SERIES YOU MORONS!!
So is it Torre’s fault Ross is pitching terrible too?
Sorry but, from the first inning on tonight, he pitched tentative. He isn’t an “ace”. Aces shutdown other teams.
Wang is a guy who pitches to contact. Tell me another “ace” who pitches to contact>?
Unfortunately, he has pitched like this the past month. He did it in Boston, in a big game, and he did it here.
Its the same pattern. Tentative, can’t throw strikes from the stretch, too many bad counts, and he absolutely crumbles when the pressure is on.
This isn’t pitching against bad teams and crappy #4 starters the offense pounds. This is playoff baseball and, at least tonight, he stunk.
Meaning, if there is a Game 5 in Cleveland, you don’t have Wang anywhere near that game. Not if you want to win.
Now that Ohlendorf has fallen apart, this saves the better part of the Indians bullpen tonight.
I hope the bats show up tomorrow and Andy can get the job done or its going to be a very short post-season stay (again) for the Yankees.
the key in this game has been the failure of Posada and matsui to produce in 2 big situations. if they don’t produce in the upcoming games arod will never see anything to hit.that’s why Jeter said we
Like I said. You play all 27 outs.
I’m not panicking until it’s the ninth inning of the elimination game and we’re down by 10.
Anyway, if the past is any predictor, the first game doesn’t mean much…
(Also, this is why you start Pettitte game 2, he’s his best after a loss…)
objectively, wang is a very good but not great pitcher. he is awful on the road and if this series makes it to game 5 he can’t be the starter. the good news is the yanks have never won the alds after winning the first game. good night and go yanks tomorrow.
OH MY GOSH, can we please get out of this freakin inning and get to the plate? I can’t take it anymore…..
Pettitte will play stopped tomorrow.
Remember last year we won the first game and look at what happened.
five 2 out RBI? Wow. Thats terrible.
… This is getting painful to watch.
4 for 4 with RISP tonight for the indians… speaks volumes at this point
did Torre abandon “manufacture a run”?
ok that was ugly. I am switching to my other prediction, Yankees lose tonight, win the series in 5. I’m not giving up on the game or the blog. I don’t find it too bad troll-wise tonight at all. Ripping on Wang at this point is not trollish, it’s objective. Ripping on Wang after one inning is trollish.
well…. they’ve got their work cut out for them! but still 4 more shots…. 12 outs to make it happen
Can these announcers be any more anti Yankee?
4 more innings for the media to figure out how this was A-Rod’s fault somehow.
Dammit, Im angry at this team. It’s a 5 game series, I should relax..
anybody else see the scores of yesterdays playoff games – all low scoring, good pitching, and worry like I did? Yes, our staff can hang SOMETIMES – but statistically – you’d take Boston’s and Cleveland’s over ours in a heartbeat. I want to vomit. After committing so much time to this team this year this is the way the Wanger and Joe-Blow reward us? No effort and bad in game management?
They announcers are killing me.. you think they will interview Freddie Sez in the bronx??? I doubt it
Guess I’ll get ready for work tomorrow..
Somewhere Joe Borowski is thanking God he won’t be used tonight.
Gotta get a couple back here.
well, this game is over… time to win the next three.
Phil – registration wouldn’t stop some of the panic tonight. These are all folks who would be registered. This is what happens when you take passionate folks and allow to post every thought as a playoff game develops.
So deep breath and let’s go after their bull pen now. We still have time – and we’ve scored late in games before.
Phil – 27 in ’07
“this board is awful…the overreactions, trolls, and negativity have driven me away tonight.”
Phil, don’t overreact to the overreactions. such reactions are all part of the game – just get on a #4 train.
Chip, chip, chip, chip ………..
1-8 RISP. That is an awful stat. Either way, Wang never gave the team a chance. Bringing in a rook was throwing gasoline on a fire.
Gwynn is the only decent announcer, the rest aren’t even good enough to lick my feet.
A lot of rest + playoff adrenaline = ineffective Wang.
I bet he pitches a gem in Game 5.
I feel sick….I CANNOT face another 1st round implosion and this one will result in A-Rod getting run out of town by the media….this sucks
Yanks are done – see you in ’09
Besides, this game is far from over.
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WRONG,,this game IS over…Good Night Everyone…I have had enough…wake me up when Andy is pitching again….oh..and if Torre had 1/2 a brain, which we all know he doesn’t, he’s put in Veras for the rest of the game, so he doesn’t waste any of the ( cough, cough ) good playoff pitchers that we have…..
,,,tonight was nothing short of a total disaster….
Might have been nice to have a lefty to bring in to face lofton…he has a .545 OPS against lefties this year (.838 against righties)
For all those wondering, THIS is why you have Pettitte start game 2. You want Pettitte pitching after a loss, not anyone else.
Anyway, when you’re starting a series on the road, you go for the split on the road and the sweep at home. As long as the Yankees win one of the two games in Cleveland, they’ll be fine.
LET’S GO YANKEES!
Throwing those beach balls over the plate obviously hurt us in more ways than one..
TYPICAL YANKEE CHOKE JOB IN THE POSTSEASON. AN OCTOBER TRADITION!!
good thing they still plan on playing another 4 innings tonight. All without CC I suspect. It’s time to get the bats going.
15.43 ERA for Wang. Bravo, Long Duck Dong.
Ok, I’m pissed that the game is going the way it is, but this game is NOT OVER YET.
WE SCORED 10 RUNS IN AN INNING NOT TOO LONG AGO. DONT YOU REMEMBER THIS?
Cleveland’s bullpen is not good and we are already facing them. We will WIN THIS GAME. Watch and learn
Okay, is it time for our 5 run inning now?
Now we need to make the Rafaels work
No, the key to this game is the #1 starter pitching like crap.
Sorry but, if you have a #1 starter, he can’t pitch like this and expect to win games.
Runs are tough to come by in the post-season because you are facing the opposing teams best pitchers. When your #1 starter can’t throw strikes and can’t shutdown innings, you have trouble.
No excuses for Wang tonight. This is playoff baseball and he stunk. Plain and simple.
If Joe has any brains left, and there is a Game 5, Pettitte gets that start. If not, its a loss.
Either way, gotta hope they can get to Carmona tomorrow night. You hate to go home down 0-2.
Bad, bad night for the Yankees. Hopefully, Andy pitches much better tomorrow night. When you think about it, he can’t pitch worse than Wang did tonight.
Wang’s performance tonight probably seals the fate of Joba as a starter next year. No way you keep an arm like that in the bullpen. The Yankees DESPERATELY need him in the rotation next year.
Jeff NJ, I totally agree.
what is RISP?
If this is a loss, its Wang’s lameness and hitters lack of timely hitting that did them in
It seems that this play by play dude is as excited about the Tribe scoring as are the Indian fans……Hell the Yanks fair better lately when they drop the first game as opposed to winning game 1……Gots to think positive……Somebody wake up St. Joe…….
C’mon Yanks, you’ve got nothing to lose in this game now. Let’s get some runners on and who knows?
will see what the team is really made of now
We’ll get a good look at their bullpen tonight. That’s a positive.
Phil,
the problem with waving pom poms is that it obstructs your view of the game. Torre’s by now familiar deficiencies don’t mean we can’t come back. But they shouldn’t be ignored either. Particularly when they impact the Yankee postseason chances. Again.
Wanger in game 4 at the stadium (assuming there is a game 4). He should be fine on 3 days rest.
This entire game was pathetic. Jorge in particular had 1st and 2nd 1 out in the first inning and struck out on a high fastball and bases loaded 1 out in the 5th inning and struck out on a high fastball after getting a 3-0 count. I thought Jorge’s offensive production this year was an illusion because he could never get the job done when we needed it and he proved it tonight When people like Garko, Lofton, Blake and Asdrubal Cabrera can get big hits in their first playoff games (excluding Lofton) and you just lay down and die against a mediocre 96 MPH fastball with no movement you dont deserve to play. What a bunch of failures.
Matthew – 2009? you taking all of next year off?
why couldnt that camera man have tripped over wang, not minky? maybe duncan should give him the ol’ forearm bash. thats the problem. joe holds nobody accountable. “Ah shucks, he’ll get ‘em next time”. 5 game series. there is no next time. im rooting for cleveland to light up the board so joe doesnt do anything stupid like bring in joba.
I got drilled about 2 weeks ago by several people here as well as Pete himself for suggesting that Wang pitches game 3 at the Stadium….Maybe it wasn’t such a bad idea after all…….
Rebecca,
thought you wre the queen of optimism?? we haven’t lost yet, 4 more innings to play and not against CC! LET’S GET SOME OPTIMISM HERE!
At least the Rangers are on. I am listening to them on NHL radio. And of course with big expectations they are promptly losing their home opener 2-1 to the loser Florida Panthers.
Borowski has done a “magnificent job” per the announcers. Did they notice his over 5 era and high number of blown saves?
RISP = Runners in scoring position
I don’t think 10 beers will ease the pain so far tonight
Where are the people that thought Wang was an ace, that thought Torre was a good manager, or that thought Ohlendorf should be on the playoff roster? I TOLD YOU SO!!!
I like the idea of getting the lose out of the way early.
Nobody should feel safe with any lead with this lineup
tonight is the reason joba resumes his life as a starter next year. i won’t bury wang, but no way he’s an ace. too unreliable with that sinker. you have to have great starting pitching first and foremost to win in the playoffs. joba has the potential to be a stud starter. no way you don’t give him the chance to be that.
For those concerned about game 1 – don.t
we been in *12* consecutive AL Division series:
we’ve only swept twice (99, 98).
we gone to 4 games 5 times.
we gone to 5 games 5 times.
the odds are against sweeping.
Moreover, we’re 6-4 at the Jake (lst 3-yrs), but we’re 9-2 at home.
Lastly, most importantly, the winner of game 1 has only gone on to win the series twice (yup 99, 99) – overall *the game 1 victor has loss the series 10 times (2-10).*
This is not regular season baseball. This one is over. The series is far from over but, this one is done.
They just have to regroup and get better pitching from Andy tomorrow night.
A big step back for Chien Ming Wang. Can’t pitch like that in the post-season and have “ace” status.
Good, young pitcher but, he will be much better next year when he isn’t the Game 1 post-season starter. Much better suited in the #3 role, IMO.
Seems like not the brightest managerial move to give us a good look at the A relievers for the Indians. May come back to bight Wedge later in the series.
does anyone else feel like they could personally strike out Melky right now??
Traditionally the Yankees win the series after dropping game 1 – so we have the Indians right where we want them.
Sheez….if we can put some runs on the board NOW, this could get way out of hand fast.
GOAL Petr Prucha and the Rangers tie it up. WOOHOOO
Yep, Dr. A. This is all part of the master plan . . .
The think with wang is how many times are you going to throw a high slider before you realize it isn’t working.
Melky is an absolute loser offensively. I wouldnt trust him to hit a beach ball.
guys… adam… i think its pretty silly to be busting out “i told you so” and things like that. its the 5th inning of a 5-game series. this is NOT over.
Wow. I guess the freak camera man attack on Minky was a bad omen after all.
OK, let’s not panic. Let’s protect the bullpen, don’t use everybody and tire them out in this game, and let’s come out and play Yankee baseball in Game 2.
Yeah, ill post it again:
1996 ALDS – Lost game 1 vs Rangers, Won in 4
2000 ALDS – Lost game 1 vs A’s, Won in 5
2001 ALDS – Lost games 1 + 2 vs A’s, Won in 5
2003 ALDS – Lost game 1 vs Twins, Won in 4
2004 ALDS – Lost game 1 vs Twins, Won in 4
Melky and Matsui…. He is as raw right now as sashimi
…Well I was off the bandwagon in April/May and back on in Sept.
I am off again, they look the same. Just a team, no spark.
Over matched and outplayed.
“Meanwhile somewhere in Oregon, Brian Bruney is watching Ross Ohlendorf and saying, “I could have done that!â€?”
Haha brilliant!
and on a note we all can agree on…is david ortiz the most annoying arse in the world? after 4 awesome seasons we’ve now made up a nickname “Papi” and he refers to himself in the third person as Papi. And that stupid beard/gotee? If Arod referred to himself as “Arod” the world would hang him by his toes. I used to root for the yanks because we were just simple, hard working, clean cut, nice, but successful rich dudes. now, the successful part is gone and the world roots for jerks like john-spandex-pableblown, kevin-wow, thats terrible facial hair-yuk, and eric gagme.
Scratch out a few runs now and they`re back in it
We’re fine. If the Yankees win this game, all the better. If not, it’s not like we’re eliminated. We’re fine.
LET’S GO YANKEES!
I agree with you Yankee Chick, except it’s now the 6th inning. Make that the middle of the 6th inning.
SJ44, just went back and re-read some older posts.
sorry to parrot your argument about joba.
obviously, i couldn’t agree more.
what’s the word on Perez? how many innings can he go?
Adam October 4th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
Where are the people that thought Wang was an ace, that thought Torre was a good manager, or that thought Ohlendorf should be on the playoff roster? I TOLD YOU SO!!!
I’m right here, and the series isn’t over, so shut up.
It will be better tomorrow.
bad pitching by wang.. got the lead in the first.. gave it away… couldnt keep the game close and when the yanks were close, gave it away again.. Even if they dont have their great stuff, Aces usually keep your team in the game.. Thats what sabathia did… Wang couldnt get the key outs when it mattered..
This hump announcer is a Cleveland fan, or at the least he took the underdog Indians tonight…….
Good post Rusty, keep posting that.
More good news, Jorge Posada’s value is dropping, we’ll be able to sign him to a reasonalbe 2 year extension.
forget tomorrow… the key is Game 3 with Clemens. If he deals the Yanks might have a shot. If not, then it is over.
Two Ks. Good way to come back
…Well I was off the bandwagon in April/May and back on in Sept.
I am off again, they look the same. Just a team, no spark.
Over matched and outplayed.
good riddance, what do you think you are a Mets fan? real fans wear the hat and follow the team regardless of their performance. dont show up tomorrow when they tie the series or sunday when they pull ahead.
well, we now know wang doesn’t pitch well on 7 days rest. that’s just baseball common sense. didn’t yankee management know that before? they get to the post season and do very strange things like give a sinkerball pitcher 7 days rest.
someone is choking and it isn’t necessarily the players.
YankeeF’gFan –
No one wants your kind here. Go root for the Red Sox.
YankeeF’gFan
“…Well I was off the bandwagon in April/May and back on in Sept.
I am off again, they look the same. Just a team, no spark.
Over matched and outplayed.”
good riddance, what do you think you are a Mets fan? real fans wear the hat and follow the team regardless of their performance. dont show up tomorrow when they tie the series or sunday when they pull ahead.
FIRE GUIDRY! HE MADE WANG KEEP THROWING THAT CRAPPY SLIDER! NOW HE CANT EVEN LOCATE HIS SINKER! I THINK THAT SLIDER ACTUALLY MAKES HIS SINKER SUCK!!!!!!!! FIRE HIM!
CHIEN MING CHOKE! NICE GAME CHOKE FACE! MAYBE YOU SHOULD STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE MOUND AND JUST PITCH, LOSER CHOKER!
Pete just called this game over.
I think that means we’re going to win…
So if this one is over, does that mean that all of the spoiled, arrogant know-it-alls on this board will be leaving for the night(please say yes…)?
2004 ALCS – Won games 1 + 2 + 3 VS Red Sox, Lost in 7
WOOHOOO, Drury and Callaghan scored back to back and the Rangers take a 4-2 lead. At least something is going right tonight.
oh man
“If the Yankees win this game, all the better. If not, it’s not like we’re eliminated. We’re fine.”
With all due respect, I don’t agree.
1) Carmona is arguably as good as Sabathia. Pettitte is not as good as Wang.
2) Clemens is a big X factor. He hasn’t pitched in a long time. Mussina is also an X factor.
Yankees need to put together one of their patented comebacks– tonight. Game 1 is key– it totally swings the odds dramatically one way or another.
Pinch hit Giambi– it worked with Boston. Defense be damned.
Its hard to bang on Ohlendorf. That’s a pretty impossible situation to be put in. At least he gets his feet wet.
This game is on Wang folks. Can’t pitch like that and expect a win. He had chances to keep it close (like CC did) and was awful. No other way to say it.
Regular season baseball is about offense. Playoff baseball is about pitching. You don’t pitch in the post-season, you don’t win.
Wang gave them no chance tonight. I am confident Andy will give them a chance to win tomorrow night.
At least the Rangers are rolling. Just scored 2 goals in about 15 seconds to take a 4-2 lead over the Panthers in the third period.
good thing olendorf went to princeton… he’s gonna need something to fall back on
Nice Ace you got there. Going home early wild card losers.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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eff this year after year of torre playing for the big inning never bunting asnd weak ass finesse pitchers like wang sucking in the pre season get me a freakin horse that can throw hard.I dont care what anyone says torre sucks
So i guess hes keepin Ollie in to take one for the team at this point? Save the rest of the pen?
Adam,
I still think Torre, overall, is a good manager, better than most. if it wasn’t for Torre, we wouldn’t even have a stinkin game to watch right now, I believe.
As for Wang, well, I can’t say I thought once this season that he was an ace. I never thought we had an ace all season at all, it was pitching by committee or so it seemed.
As for Ross, I didn’t see him enough to get an opinion of him one way or another….again, pitching in regular season is like spring training compared to NOW!
THIS GAME IS OVER!
the wheels on the bus go ’round and ’round…err… the players on the Tribe go ’round and ’round…..
Maybe we should pull all of our starters now, rest them for tomorrow.
YankeeF’gFan
â€?…Well I was off the bandwagon in April/May and back on in Sept.
I am off again, they look the same. Just a team, no spark.
Over matched and outplayed.�
good riddance, what do you think you are a Mets fan? real fans wear the hat and follow the team regardless of their performance. dont show up tomorrow when they tie the series or sunday when they pull ahead.
Who has a better bullpen?
Who has better OF?
Who has better baserunning?
Who didn’t spend 230 million?
There is no way we can pull this series out.
At least the Mets..ummm… never mind.
As is always the case, and the beauty of the game, we start over tomorrow and everything may/will be different. We’ll still be saddled with Joe’s in-game work. But here’s hoping Pettitte gives us the start we need.
And maybe let Matsui sit. Please?
By the way, did anyone hear the Cleveland fans chanting Yankees Suck? Why is it when the Red Sox are losing on the road, you dont hear the opposing crowd chanting Red Sox Sucks?
Hopefully we can use this tomorrow as motivation to unload on the indians.
Good thing Edwar Ramirez was left off the roster for Olendorf.
http://video.aol.com/video-det.....2682993989
Get it out of your system Tribe! Tomorrow the hammer comes down.
Bottom line is the road team needs to win 1 of the 2 games over the first two days. Guess that one is tomorrow for us. Remember, don’t panic, ignore the trolls, ignore the back pages, ignore Phillips, Russo and especially Lupica.
Tomorrow will be Andy to Joba to Mo to home field advantage for the Yankees.
i like your thinking, bobcat
Meanwhile, Ohlendorf takes one for the team tonite.
just here to remind some people this is game 1 we have won 16 of our last 21 series , we have more fight than this.
Rebecca get the WE STILL BELIEVE TOWELS OUT
P.S. Ohlendorf isn’t this bad he will bounce back.
I am really disappointed in Wang. I was always a little skeptical, now I know why.
They do that everybody clap your hands somewhere other than Shea? Very minor league.
i repeat torre is a god awful manager always was just caught lightning in a bottle with great yank teams.right away our middle relief was exposed
gee, who would’ve thought that a rookie whose thrown 6 innings prior to the post-season would have a tough time in the playoffs? apparently not pete or joe torre. it’s too bad, b/c you just know that if pete hadn’t been the biggest ohlendorf cheerleader for the last two weeks of the season, he’d be ripping him to shreds right now and anyone who believes in the youth movement. the irony is disgusting.
Jeff,
Good advice. It is very important to ignore Lupica. Tho’ that goes with almost any occasion.
Pettitte is not as good as Wang? Are you crazy? Pettitte is a MUCH better pitcher than Wang. Its not even close.
Wang would KILL for Andy Pettitte’s career. Hell, if they hit the first two months of the season, Andy would have won 20 games.
Carmona is not a better pitcher than CC. Plus, he’s righthanded and the Yankees have faced him twice this year.
Forget comebacks tonight. Hope the Indians hit themselves out tonight.
Pettitte pitches and Andy Pettitte game tomorrow night, they will win.
Fruitbat: Uhh, we beat Carmona?
Pettitte also has LOADS more postseason experience than Wang. He thrives on the pressure. There is NO ONE else I want on the mound tomorrow.
I feel bad for Ross Ohlendorf. This game isn’t his fault, but it’s making him look a lot worse than he is.
Anyway, as I’ve said, the Yankees will be fine. They’ll make the appropriate adjustments and win tomorrow.
first of all olendorph shouldnt even be in there
YANKEES WILL WIN GAME 2 AND 3! THEY WILL LOSE GAME 4! GAME 5 WILL BE CHIEN MING CHOKE AND GUESS WHO WILL CHOKE!? AHAHHA THATS RITE ITS CHIEN MING CHOKE TIME! CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE! TAKE HIDEKI BACK TO CHINA WITH YOU, CHOKER LOSER!
FruitBat-
_”Carmona is arguably as good as Sabathia.”_
Good!
CC gave up 2 taters and 6 walks in 5 inn.
-”Game 1 is key—it totally swings the odds dramatically one way or another.”_
Completely FALSE – the winner of game one has gone on to lose the series 10 of 12 times. That’s 83% of the time.
I think it is about time to start the Lets Go Rangers chant.
LOL I think Lofton has more RBI in this game then he did in his Yankee career.
i bet the house on cleveland how the hell were the yankees favored against a better team with better pitchers?
i get Torre now…lull CLE into a false since of security and tire them out with all of their baserunning, high-fives, jumping for joy, etc. what an wicked but good plan. ill try that at work tomorrow . ill suck til noon but then man, ill do one thing right and nobody will expect it. bam! instant promotion
Lofton is 48 years old and has four, 2 out RBI’s!?!@?!2
The worst thing is that so many of these runs are with 2 outs.
HIS NAME IS ohlenDORK! GET IT RIGHT, GUYS!
Dr. Acula: Unfortunately, your stock is slipping dramatically. You are the one who for the past month has nonstop beat the drums about desperately wanting to play the Indians at all cost. Well, now you’ve got them.
In all seriousness, though, tonight’s a disaster in virtually all areas. This is the 3rd straight postseason beatdown the Yanks have suffered. It’s pretty bad when you consider tonight’s game and the last two in Detroit in ’06, the Yanks have been blown out by the last of the 5th inning in all 3 games.
Having said that, the weight of the world is on Andy for tomorrow’s game. The Yankees do have that bizarro stat about being undefeated when losing the 1st game of the ALDS. I guess we’ll see a better performance tomorrow night and hopefully Pettitte can hold them to less than 9 runs in 5 innings.
yeah, ok, now is it over?
Sj,
Right you are. Pettitte has pitched a lot of important game twos over the years. This is just another one.
…They just had to do the Lofton commercial?
Can we put the game back on YES please?
“Pettitte is not as good as Wang? Are you crazy? Pettitte is a MUCH better pitcher than Wang. Its not even close.
Wang would KILL for Andy Pettitte’s career. Hell, if they hit the first two months of the season, Andy would have won 20 games.
Carmona is not a better pitcher than CC. Plus, he’s righthanded and the Yankees have faced him twice this year.
Forget comebacks tonight. Hope the Indians hit themselves out tonight.
Pettitte pitches and Andy Pettitte game tomorrow night, they will win.”
Agreed.
Win tomorrow. Then pound Byrd and Westbrook at the stadium.
Wow, Lofton is killing them tonight.
Johan Santana looks better and better….
a few years ago when the yanks played the dodgers in LA (back when i lived in LA) i caught lofton before the game and he gave me a ball. he was a nice guy.
i’m gonna think of that memory right now and pretend he didnt just get another goddamn RBI….
Here’s more good news, after beatings like this the Yankees this year have gone on positive winning streaks almost every time. Gives them some confidence that it will happen again.
like I said, see you in 2009 – the team will be emptied of its starts in order to rebuild!
Chip Carey should be tarred and feathered and wedgied
Poor Ross, u thnk he’s ruined after this outing?
Lofton with 4 RBI’s tonight! I would have guessed Torre was pitching if I wasn’t watching this massacre
SJ – yeah, im with you. this is on Wang, i just can’t fathom how he comes out here and performs so awfully in game 1, wheres the mental preparation? He looked lost up there, i just dont get it. You definitely have to consider them shaking up the rotation for the rest of the series, he was completely ineffective.
Heres hoping that the old school Andy / Rocket combo can get it done, i for one was most worried about game 1, just didn’t have a good feeling about it.
OK…then Veras finishes the game…maybe bring in Farnsy for one, just to blow him outta game 2 for good measure…LOL !
That’s two pitchers Joe can’t use the rest of this series. Two guys who turned Kenny Lofton into a player tonight. Inexcusable.
Down to 9 pitchers for the rest of this series if I am the manager. Its the playoffs, can’t run the risk of guys who can’t get outs killing your team.
He’s got 9 pitchers to try and win 3 games. Not going to be easy unless Andy and Roger come up huge in this series.
An awful start to the post-season for the Yankees. At least the Rangers are winning.
Malik scores, Rangers up 5-2.
let ohlendorf or veras take the battering here. joba can go 2 tomorrow. mo can, too. five good innings is all we need to ask from andy.
if the yanks can score a few more runs tonight we can at least skim some of the cream off their bullpen and not let them off too lightly. let’s hope carmona pulls a wang tomorrow night (heh, pulls a wang)
i’m not jumping off any ledges, but this is a depressing effort. cc was there for the taking tonight. this looks like so many yanks playoff games from game 4 ’04 through last year.
Fruitbat= Troll (It’s what RS Fans call Mariano)
This night is frustrating enough without people debating idiotic posts.
This game sucks —
at least torre is using Ohlendorf and Veras instead of the top relievers here.
If he gave the greenlight to Matsui at 2-0 with the bases loaded before, that’s just awful – that is where the game turned.
How can anyone here not love Lupica? I was waiting all week for him to recant his articles earlier this year waxing poetic about the greatness of Jose Reyes. The smile that lights a thousand hearts, the ease with which he glides around the bases, and the arm of Hercules, and of course the fact that “Poop”ica thinks Reyes is better than Jeter. He wrote this two weeks into the season.
“Traditionally the Yankees win the series after dropping game 1 – so we have the Indians right where we want them.”
Yes, but just rememeber that was back when Clemens and Pettite were 8 years younger and we also had some combination of Cone/El Duque/Wells. These arms are not as good, and that, in a nutshell is why the Yankees haven’t won since 2000.
pettitte will bring the calm tomorrow
Ron,
first, that’s no house, it’s a dorm room. second, Cleveland works with two good starters. The back end of the rotation isn’t worth much. And they may have the worst closer in the playoffs. Comparing the lineups is a waste of time, it’s really not even that close.
Doesn’t mean the Tribe won’t/can’t win. But betting the house (tent?). Not a great idea.
The game turned when Wang threw the first pitch of the game for the yanks.
Wang on extra rest always leaves the ball up. Throw in his season-long, high road ERA and this is not completely unexpected. But what alternative, really?
The thinking had to be to try to win one of the two on the road. Wang they figured should have at least kept them in the game against CC and the Indians shouldn’t have outslugged the Yanks. (Boy were they wrong, but hindsight is usually pretty good). With Pettitte as the stopper in Game 2 they will probably win one at Cleveland and go from there.
With the score as bad as it is now, they have to make sure they make it a “turn the page” game and come out roaring for game 2. And they also need not to use the entire bullpen tonight. Somebody’s got take one for the team.
i cant wait for 2009!
santana (traded for cano, wang, melky, horne)
peavy
sabathia
hughes
chamberlain
YEAH!!!!! YANKEES ALSO BUY THE MARLINS AND MAKE THEM THEIR AAA TEAM! AWESOME
WOOHOOO
Rangers on fire. 4 goals in the third period. This is a completely different team than last year. I dont think they scored 4 goals in the third period for the entire season last year. Now that is a real team.
People need to relax. It’s Game 1, we weren’t supposed to win this game with Sabathia starting anyway.
Don’t understand why Wang was kept in as long as he was, when Hughes would be a better alternative for long relief. At least we could have stayed in the game. Sabathia wasn’t “on” tonight by any means, shame we weren’t able to capitalize upon that.
That being said, tomorrow is another day. Let’s hope Andy brings it.
Jeter’s future wife
October 4th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
Poor Ross, u thnk he’s ruined after this outing?
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nope it puts a chip on his shoulder. It’s his post season debut ofcourse he would be shaky. If anything we’re now going to see if our team has that energy, that chip on thier shoulder to respond during or after this game.
SJ, I dont think its fair to say that Wang and Ole cant/shouldn’t be used at ALL for the rest of the series. Wang had a sh*tty start, absolutely. Ole had trouble, but who wouldn’t coming into this game? Ole was probs not the right person for Torre to go to, but I wouldn’t say “the yankees only have 9 pitchers to win 3 games”.
Hey what happened while I was gone?
I don’t hear no fat wench singing … there are still innings left and there are still games left.
Good thing there’s a quick turnaround tomorrow at 5:00. Glad we didn’t have the day off between Games 1&2 to stew over this horrid performance.
3-11 in postseason last 14 games.
Tomorrow, Pettite to Joba to Mo. Just hope the “2003 Game Two” Andy shows up, not his alter ego.
I wa hoping to at least get a look at the front line Indians relievers tonight as a moral victory. I guess for my moral victory tonight I’ll have to hope for that poker player pud to get the boot on Survivor.
Now repeat after me:
Momentum Only Lasts Until The Next Game’s Starting Pitcher
And parting thought, but my key takeaway from this game is that Matsui and Cabrera are lost. Torre needs o show some sense of urgency and get Giambi or Duncan some more ABs. But, I guess if he had a sense of urgency we would have seen hil Hughes before the 5th inning got away from Wang. I think this shows how little confidence he has in Mussina and Clemens, and how much he has in Pettitte.
Am I the only New Jersey Devils fan on this blog?
Dr. Acula:
You are obviously learning disabled.
I guess that is why you are a Yankees fan.
I know one thing, if this does go to a Game 5, Wanger won’t be pitching….Pettitte will have to. that would be 5 days rest….right?
i am so fired up with the TROLLS here… have you NO lives??
haha go Rangers!
Farns is pitching tonight.
The game truly isn’t over, but this is going to be difficult
Its all about starting pitching in the post-season. If you get it, your team looks great.
The Red Sox hardly hit last night. However, Beckett was so dominant, the Angels never got into the game.
That’s what is missing with the Yankees. Who is their “Beckett”? Its not Wang. It will be Chamberlain next year, because he has the stuff and the moxie.
Tomorrow night is a night for a #2 stopper and Andy Pettitte is the best there is at that. If he gets the job done, they got what they came to Cleveland for…..a split in the series.
Only thing we learned tonight is that Wang can’t be the Game 5 starter if it goes to Game 5. That has to be Pettitte. No brainer decision and hopefully Joe sees it the same way.
CHIEN MING WANG IS A CHOKER EVEN IN HIS PRESS CONFERENCE! HE WAS CLEARLY NERVOUS AND UNCOMFORTABLE! WHAT KIND OF CRAP IS THAT? YOU KNEW HES GONNA CHOKE BIG TIME WHEN ITS GAME TIME! GO MARRY MATSUI AND LEAVE FOR CHINA, CHOKERS!
2009- SANTANA, PEAVY, SABATHIA, CHAMBERLAIN, HUGHES
8 run comeback unlikely but lets make the Cleveland bullpen work at least
boooo Devils.
That piece of crap announcing is Chip Carey…..He sucks…..Wonder he has to say after game 4 when Cleveland is calling for tee times…..
please chien ming loser – - if you must be obnoxious, at least take the capslock off.
Yankees Chick–Of course the trolls have no lives!
Not winning a World Series for 84 years does mess with your mind in such a way that is irreparable…
Who are the NJ devils
If the Yankees were to be so fortunate to have beaten C.C. Sabathia on the road, with Wang pitching, we all would have said, “they stole one.”
Okay, so (so far), they haven’t stolen one. A week ago, it was clear that the Pettitte/Carmona matchup was the one that most favors the Yankees. Nothing has changed except that some of the “SAKIA’s” (Spoiled, Arrogant, Know-it-Alls) haven’t liked what they’ve seen. Too bad.
Be happy the Yankees are in the playoffs and that you’ll have the opportunity to root for them again tomorrow.
And, thankfully, none of you are the Yankees’ manager. I’ll take Joe Torre any day. His track record gets him a pass with me, but then again, one of my faults is that I’m just loyal.
This guy Perez IS one of the top relievers on Cleveland, him and Betancourt.
and by the way, matsui is from JAPAN and wang is from TAIWAN.
neither of those are CHINA.
just win tomorrow. get the split. just freakin WIN!
You people are sickening. The sky is NOT falling !
Even if we lose the 1st game SO WHAT ! We can win tomorrow.
SJ, you are an alarmist. I guess no pitcher can have a bad game in you’re eyes. You are becoming worse than the trolls.
If you hate the way this team is built and plays, do us all a favor and find another one to watch. It’s really getting annoying reading you rant and whine over everything you don’t like. Who cares really what you think. If you are so knowledgeable, ask for a job in baseball and do it your way.
Maybe its the global warming effect.. 86 the first week in oct?
IT DOESNT MATTER IF SOMEONE GETS ON BASE. THE INDIANS WILL KEEP WALKING AROD AND PITCH TO CHOKESUI, POOSADA, GIAMBI JR (DUNCAN), LITTLE LEAGUE MELKY, ETC.
NOOOOOO I CANT BELIEVE THEY SUCK! ITS ALL THAT CHOKER CHIEN MING CHOKE’S FAULT! I SAY WE BOO HIM IF THERES A GAME 5!
Maybe the Yankees should consider trying to borrow Chris Drury from the Rangers. He is known as Mr Clutch and he did pitch his team to the Little League World Series. Maybe he could be our ace instead of Wang.
Makes you wonder why Indians aren’t going to one of the lesser Gods in the pen with a 8 run lead.
SJ44 nailed it. A big time, bat missing starter is what you need in the post season. That is why idiots calling for Joba to take over the closer role from Mo are nuts. We had our chance to beat CC tonight, and it won’t be as easy the next time as the ump will have a more liberal zone than Froemming did tonight.
Anyone who watches Hockey before February needs to get a life
Let’s hear some Sweet Caroline!!!!!!!
that was so not a strike. Anyway, the more this game plays out, the more I think Joba should be in the starting rotation next year. What good is it to have this great weapon if we can’t get him a lead? Joba vs. CC or Joba vs. Verlander and we’re not giving away game 1.
i like wang. he has compiled a lot of wins for us. he has had a lot of spectacular and dominant games. but wins are not the best measure of a pitcher, and his lack of consistency keeps him from being a true ace. tonight we saw that. he is a very good pitcher. but not one we can throw out there on the BIGGEST stage and always expect results. he’s a #2, we need an ace moving forward.
I still have faith even though I wanted Torre fired after the debacle in Detroit last year…watching this team game after game we have all picked up on certain things with Torre…yes he has gotten us to the playoffs but we are the Yankees and thats not good enough, if that is good enough for you then go root for the Indians or Angels, or even the Mets occasionally….I know we can’t win the World Series every year but we have some bad tastes in our mouths, like 01 vs. DBacks, 03 Marlins, 04 Sox, I want another championship to get those tastes out!!! We have a chance this year but we need good pitching…I mean does anyone have confidence in Mussina in game 4, he has been so so in the last few years in the postseason and Torre insists on pitching him in this series, what if Mckeon went with experience in the 03 series instead of Beckett..pitch Hughes instead of Mussina Torre, he has the ability to give us a shutdown start, we know Mussina can’t and will not do that…he couldn’t even hold a lead vs. Detroit in the shadows last year..pitch Hughes Torre or go home now!!! You sat Martinez in 96 for Fielder, show your guts and get off your but and don’t sit in the dugout like a troll like you did last year vs. Detroit…sit Matsui, he is rusty and not ready …..
Hughes coming in for some reason.
yankees chick, ignore him. Don’t dignify the rantings of fools.
I was just thinking to myself how in the hell Joe could start Wang over Pettitte. Andy has proven to be one of the best post season pitchers of all-time. Wang has been shaky lately and is on too long of rest. It would have been much more beneficial to the team if we had Started Pettitte, Clemens, Wang.
This Indian team is not this good. Don’t let them fool you. They scored 11 runs so far, true. But those 11 runs came off of a pitcher that truly was WAY off of his game and was throwing the ball over the middle of the plate and up. The next runs came off of a rookie pitcher who has 6 innings major league experience. We have gotten 3 runs off of their best pitcher, and should have had about 4 more. This is a failure of our offense and a failure of our manager to make the correct decision. Wang is better at home.
BTW, yankees chick, I still love you.
Joe M
Come on, Hockey is a great sport to watch and an even better sport to attend. I live in Florida and only wish I could get to more games. But at the Garden with the crowd going crazy, it rivals the Stadium for one of the greatest sports venues on Earth.
NJ Devils = Stanley Cup winners 1995, 2000, 2003.
Eastern Conference Champions 1995, 2000, 2001, 2003.
Vezina-winning goalie Martin Brodeur, who is so good he actually has two goals himself…
I haven’t ever posted on this blog before, but i read it all the time and think its great. I know theres a lot of reason for optimism in this series, and that we weren’t supposed to win this game anyway, but doesn’t anyone think that when you get Sabathia out in the 5th, with 6 walks or whatever, you have to take advantage of that??? I feel like the old yankee teams were really good at that. And the good yankee teams were all about their pitching, and now it seems like we try to slug our way out of everything. I’m not completely writing this thing off, but man, I feel pretty bad right now.
Hughes now? Hmmmmm, who comes in tomorrow night if Andy gets shelled?
ahhaha jeter is the choker, not arod! look at his stats tonight 0-3?? what kind of crap is that? dont forget it was 2 on and no outs and what does jeter do? OHHH it was that patented fly out to right! abrebooed bailed that choker out! too bad his ‘true yankee’ friends matsui and posada choked anyway!
I dont know what to do guys! maybe ill just jump off a building!
Murph,
That’s true to a point. However, Wang has struggled all year in these type of (ace vs. ace) games.
I think he overthinks and panicks a bit. Its what happens to young pitchers, especially those who don’t have killer stuff like Joba.
Joba has 4 pitches he can throw for strikes anytime in the count. Wang has one. The league knows it, has caught up to it, and its why he struggles against good teams.
I also think all of this “ace” talk surrounding Wang has done him more harm than good. He tries too hard to be something he’s not out there. He gets too cute, throwing too many sliders and changeups, and he gets away from his bread and butter pitch. Its why he has lost the feel of his sinker, IMO. Its also why most of his pitches the second half of the year have been up.
To me, the best slot for a guy like Wang is the #3 slot. It will take a lot of pressure off him and he will be a better pitcher in that slot. He simply isn’t an ace on anybody’s staff. He’s not that kind of pitcher.
Next year, with Joba and Andy in the first two slots in the rotation, I think Wang gets back to being Wang. This year, its a crapshoot with him. Its why I don’t pitch him the rest of this series. He’s too unreliable.
The great thing about the playoffs is, it doesn’t matter if you lose 20-1 or 3-2, its one loss.
Its up to Andy tomorrow night. That’s why they brought him back…..to pitch games like tomorrow night.
He gets a win, they are in good shape.
CC battled tonight. He came back and got Posada after he fell behind 3-0 with the bases loaded and one out up a run. He kept his team in the game.
Our ace did not compete. A pitcher who can’t pitch on the road nor in the playoffs has something missing. He’s a #2 but not a ace on a team that is the favorite to win the championship. He came up disturbingly small.
Show him how it’s done tomorrow Andy!
Good question Brian. They never even tested Hughes as a reliever, no way they let him pitch back to back, he’s younger than Joba. I think Torre is counting on a win tomorrow. Pettitte to Joba to Mo. Hughes looking good so far.
Hey Rebecca- Go Devils! Love ‘em!
Hockey season is four months too long. I will maybe watch it when the playoffs start and I think that is sometime around June
i think joe m is joe morgan
Now we see Hughes. With hope, it is just a one inning tune-up as tomorrow is a Must Win Game (TM). He looks sharp too, but I think Froemming is now working his Its A Blowout strike zone.
so much for Hughes being ready to take over for moose if he falters. guess that would now be a patchwork job spending the entire bullpen now. or if Clemens can’t pitch? Is this Hughes’ throw day and that’s why he’s in for an inning?
we win tomorrow I think the Yanks win the series for sure.
Torre…Hughes has the possibility of no-hitter type stuff, he should start instead of Mussina, what are you doing pitching him now..this game is over…..
Booooo Devils, go Rangers
Oh by the way Hockey is a great game but the season doesnt need to start in Octomber
Look wang is really a 1-b or a 2 starter, not a bona fide one. The Yankees are a year or two away from having one, whether Joba matures into one or they sign Santana or Sabathia after the ’08 season. The key this off-season is to retain all their free-agents including A-Rod.
And BTW, this series isn’t over. Carmona has the potential to be as erratic tomorrow as Wang was tonight, too strong, too liable to overthrow, too erratic.
Pettitte will give the Yankees all the need tomorrow on the mound. They just have to shake off tonight and hit Carmona.
I like the drama of the two forsaken dynasty pitcher, Pettitte and Clemens returning to deliver them to the Promised Land.
Red sox have a dominate game, Yankees have an off game…. Its a 5 game series not a 1 game playoffs. Yankees will win this. Ignore the Red Sox trolls.
Did I fall asleep and miss all of the playoff games? Are we now watching the end of the World Series? These TBS announcers are going off on the adversity the Indians had to go through to get to this point . . .
Don’t rule out Wang coming back on 3 days rest as the Game 4 starter in New York over Mussina now…especially since Hughes is in the game. His sinker is usually better on shorter rest.
Typical Torre, though – applying the band aid after we’ve bled to death.
Hughes should’ve been in in the 5th.
We’ll be fine tomrorow – how many times have we been embarassed and then come back to a huge game? Alot. I cant believe how many people are jumping ship and sayign this whole thing is over. C’mon get real.
I cant believe we are using Hughes now. What a waste. We have to go to Game 4 to win the series and we are going to put our hopes on Mike “5 innings 6 runs” Mussina. I usually defend Torre, but this is pure genius. I can only hope Torre lets Wang come back on short rest for Game 4 since he should pitch better considering he will be at home.
Vinny,
Unless you have taken over as keeper of the posts here, I will post when I want and say what I want.
You don’t like it, don’t read it.
I am a realist, not an alarmist. Wang has pitched poorly for most of the second half of the year. If you actually watched the games instead of fixating on my posts, you would see that.
Unfortunately, he fell apart tonight. When I see that, and knowing you have a better option (Pettitte on full rest) for a possible Game 5, its not alarmist to want Andy pitching that game.
Its actually quite logical.
At least Phil looks good
lets to offense – i won’t give up until the 27th out
Franchise! Looking good!
go*
lol, I agree Lori. The announcers have declared the Indians world champions! Congratulations Clevelanders, you deserve it. No reason to play the other games, the Indians are your 2007 world series champs! Cleveland Rocks!
All right, LET’S GO YANKEES!
LET’S GET SOME RUNS HERE…
Thanks Jeff NJ, Hughes looks great but we still need a long reliever “just in case” tomorrow. Can Hughes go back to back days? Joe, you really make me wonder sometimes.
Not based solely on this inning, but his last 2 starts (and Moose’s inconsistency), I wanted to see Hughes start game 4, but knew I wouldn’t.
Nice inning of relief though. Hope that’s it for his night so he’s ready for the Clemens and Mussina games.
This is why the Yankees signed Andy Petitte, hes the stopper. Look for Andy to throw a heck of a game tomorrow.
Great move getting Hughes in the game now. When he does have to pitch in a meaningful inning/game/situation later this series, it won’t be his maiden voyage.
It’s still a marathon, not a sprint. Thankfully, the SAKIAs are confined to the blog.
That may have been Hughes doing his throw day in live action rather thsn in the pen. It’s never bad to get a young ones feet wet.
A-Rod definitely Homers here – just because lol
Lori: THANK YOU! Finally someone else sees the (hell)light!
Correct me if I’m wrong but usually when we win the first game of a series, we lose and when we lose the first game we win. It’s all falling into place now. lol
Of course this loss still is eating away at my guts.
There are not too many pitchers in this bullpen. Yeah I guess he could have left Veras in another inning, but I agree getting Hughes some postseason work is important.
Man, evaluating our loss is making baseball so not fun. A loss is a loss why overthink it? Im only crying because I Have the so called” Taiwan pride” for Wang.
This one aint on AROD…
Why I am not a Torre fan: He doesn’t bring Hughes in to start the 5th down 4-3, but left in a struggling Wang. He then brings Hughes in down 11-3 in the 7th.
can someone tell who won game 1 against detroit enough said
A very healthy strike zone!
I feel confident about tomorrow, but tonight Torre cost us. At the very least, you have to rip Joe for (1) green-lighting Posada on 3-0 with the bases loaded, (2) keeping Wang in the game when it was obvious that he didn’t have it, and (3) he threw up the white flag early with his bullpen management. If you are going to bring in Phil Hughes why not do it while it mattered?
I won’t kill Torre for not sacrificing with Jeter (the announcers are dopes… a hit would have broken the game open in favor of the Yanks), starting Mienk over Duncan (Wang SHOULD equal groundballs), or starting Wang (Wang/Pettite are the Yanks only Game 1 & 2 options)
This is a game we could have won. Tomorrow we win.
Peter, how are you the only one who actually thought Torre would start Hughes on Monday? I never even thought that was a question.
Hey everyone who was saying this series should be a cakewalk – after all, we did win the season series 6-0 – do we now understand that regular season doesn’t matter in the playoffs?
Hey, everyone who was saying the Yankees playoff experience should carry them thru this – do we now understand playoff experience means nothing? What did it mean in 2001 when we lost to AZ – what did it mean in 2002 vs Ana, 2003 vs Fla, 2005 vs Det. For that matter, what did it mean for us in 1996 against the Braves?
We won our World Series due to pitching. We lose the series for the same reason. If we don’t get the pitching, we done in the first round again.
The incredibly sad thing is the 2 best teams in the AL are playing each other right now. I mean, how lucky did Boston get playing a banged up, sad angels team in the first round. I can only hope the Indians can get past Boston if they beat us in this series.
That being said, the best quote of the night in this blog tonight is this by Dman…
“Dammit, Im angry at this team. It’s a 5 game series, I should relax.”
Try again tomorrow…
4-43
Steve Howe You Doin makes a very good point about game 4. I was wondering about that myself, since Wang also pitches better at home..
Matsui needs to evalutae himself after the game..love him…but he looks lost…
*I’d put my foot up the a$$ of the beat writer that dare blames Alex for this game*
The yankess lost Game 1 in previous years and came back to win the series. Have some faith and lets see how this all plays out. If they dont get better pitching the rest of this series then they’re in trouble, but before anyone jumps, let the series develop into whatever it will be.
Hughes needs to start a game. That’s all i know. He needs to.
Hughes is a guy we really need to get on track- there was that really good article about his difference in mechanics and why he seemed different- http://bronx-bomberz.blogspot......ephil.html
they shoulda left matsui in NY. He’s been garbage for a while now.
Let’s go Yanks…tomorrow!!
I think the Yanks will have to rely on some Stadium magic to get back into this. Cleveland will have massive momentum going into tomorrow’s game. Unless Carmona is really off and Andy is really on (which is theoretically possible), I think Cleveland will take Game 2 as well. Honestly, it would really be nice to have a starter that could consistently strike guys out and absolutely dominate a game. With Andy, his control has to be perfect, otherwise it will be a game much like tonight.
A-Rod is 0-2 with 2 walks. Isn’t that an OBP of .500? I better not read anything in tomorrow’s papers blaming him. Not that the idiots calling the game didn’t bring attention to it as if he hasn’t walked twice.
Keith in Florida…..I shudder at the thought of Mussina pitching in any postseason game…..Bla-bla-bla about Mosse having a few decent games in September…..He’s washed up, Cleveland will turn him into a human Christmas tree…..Much rather see Phil Hughes pitch….He’s a low contact / strikeout pitcher….There’s many of us who feel that way…..Hey Vinny 5743, no brushback pitches….Yanks bounceback as Cleveland shoots their wad tonight
I better not see Matsui in the lineup tomorrow
Posada where was that flyout when we really needed it??
Not quite sure why Hughes is in the game now when we are down by 8 runs and not when we were only down by 3. Dont quite get using OHlendorf over Hughes if it had already been decided that Moose is going in Game 4. I understand that neither one of them has experience but someone want to tell me who the long man is tomorrow god forbid we need one??
At least no one can blame this on Arod.
This is a 5 game series not won or lost on game 1 as we have all seen the past few years.
SJ,
Anyone with any knowledge of the game doesn’t go off the deep end over every little thing and issue.
I guess it wasn’t Wang who won 19 games in two consecutive years. He had a bad game. Does every pitcher pitch perfect games every time out ? I think not. He wasn’t as effective this year I will agree but to lambaste him for a poor performance, I would think someone of your knowledge would have a slight understanding of why it happened. Second guessing every move made becomes annoying to those of us who don’t winge and whine like a 12 year old would. Man up, take it as a loss and have hope for another day.
BTW, tomorrow night the Torre cannot play both Minky and Melky. One or the other is fine to play for defensive purposes but neither are going to hit– Melky looks awful in every bat and Minky is hurt.
BIG GAME ANDY ALWAYS SHOWS UP FOR GAME 2′S
Rick – could you please change your name to Captain Obvious.
If Jorge puts one over the fence, or even in play the entire game changes.
Matsui looks awful tonight – I wouldn’t be surprised if the Giambino takes his place as DH in the next game. Anyone else?
This would also be a throw day for someone who would pitch on monday. SO unless they leave him in for 50 pitches he could start or be available again when its Mussina turn in the rotation.
i would like to think this is a low pitch count tune up incase Clemens or Moose don’t measure up. He seems very composed (Hughes).
Wanger looked like the squirrel crawling up the foul pole as fast as he could….
I don’t even thing he wanted to be on the mound after that walk in the 5th.
hopefully we pound carmona with RISP…something we didn’t do against sabathia and hopefully andy does a much better job than wang did. he was a disgrace tonight. never pitch him on the road AGAIN.
OK I guess Hughes is mop-up guy in Torre’s eyes.
My God does Phil look great tonight. He’s like an entirely different pitcher; attacking hitters, being aggressive with his fastball, hitting his spots and his wicked curve is back. This is the Phil Hughes that utterly dominated the minor leagues in 2006.
Hughes is doing well. Not sure why he’s out there, but he looks good.
by the way i think wanger beat detroit in game one last year
TK, yeap, I’m with you! I think Pettitte should go to the hotel now and try and get a good nite’s sleep and stop watching this massacre, can’t be good for the psyche
I don’t mind him going to Hughes or Ohlendorf. Might as well get their feet wet in playoff baseball.
Two innings won’t hurt Hughes should they need him more in this series. He hasn’t pitched enough this year to be tired.
I would have pulled Wang after the leadoff walk (and gone to Hughes) in the 5th inning. Joe stayed WAY too long with Wang tonight.
Playoff baseball is all about pitching. Especially starting pitching. Tonight, the Yankees starter was crap.
Tomorrow is a whole different game. I expect Andy to pitch very well tomorrow night. Get a split, then its Best of 3.
I HOPE THE INDIANS SCORE 50 RUNS TONIGHT AND SCORE NONE TOMORROW!
I hope the Indians are using up all their runs tonight.
ah, Kevin,
you typed too soon!
SJ44,
I think you were right earlier. Despite this homer by Garko, I would have loved to have see Hughes in there a lot after the second.
Peter, please tell me this was Hughes’ throw day, and not more abysmal managing by Torre (going with Wang despite his home/road splits, going with 5 lefties against Sabathia, etc.) Hope trusting Clemens and Moose in spite of their late season troubles won’t join them on this list.
gosh, the pressure on Andy! what a man to handle that it seems like every season with the Yanks. he usually is up for it though! thank GOD!
I agree SJ44, if Torre were going to use Hughes tonight, why couldn’t he go to him after Wang.
Oh well…this is why they brought Andy back…we’ll see if his big game reputation comes through.
In re to peter’s quote: “Cleveland now comes with totally inexperienced Fausto Carmona then Jake Westbrook and Paul Byrd.”
Is it just me, or wasn’t Beckett of the 2003 Marlins and Verlander of the 2006 Tigers “totally inexperienced”? Sure, we beat carmona, but he’s no slouch – he has the lowest ERA in the league for a reason.
I think watching the massacre gets Pettitte pumped.
with seven days off , why would a sinkerballer like wang have a good start?
pettitte should have started this game on his 4 days rest. wang should have pitched last sunday on three days rest just to get work in and then had 4 days rest for tomorrow’s game.
whoever does the yankees strategic planning for the playoffs should be fired.
it’s ridiculous to have to wait until thursday to play the first game when the season ended on sunday, but someone on the yankees had to figure out how to get the rotation in sync.
they didn’t do their job.
the yankees seem to get to the playoffs and go into wing it mode. last year it was the sheffield debacle at first base. this year it’s 7 days of rest for wang.
who comes up with these decisions?
I know but Garko went the other way with a fastball on the outside corner. Not a terrible pitch, but pretty good piece of hitting. On another note, tomorrow Andy does what he came back to NY to do. Come up huge and save the season.
Well there are 3 goats for this game.
1. Torre………….why is wang starting on the road? he is terrible there.
2. Matsui Why ? Why ?, this guy has done NOTHING in the playoffs since game 3 of the alcs in 2004. He is injured and looks absolutely dreadful.
3. Wang – he is a decent pitcher I will give him that but he is by no means a ace. He chokes everytime against the red sox, especially at Fenway. He also has gotten absolutely rocked in the 2 biggest games of the year, the one earlier in September vs Beckett and tonight.
This team is looking dead already like it has the last 2 years in the postseason and IF we do make it to a game 5 on the road Pettitte MUST be the starter
I can’t believe Ohlendorf was chosen over Edwar for the postseason roster. hopefully joe torre puts in edwar for the alcs if the yankees advance.
AS PAULIE FROM ROCKY SAID TO MUCH TV IS BAD FOR MY EARS
Strange the Wedge would use his two best setup men in a 9 run blow out…
Maybe that works out to the Yankees advantage the rest of the series.
Who knows.
Godzilla has to sit… he looks like the Geico lizard at the plate. Not all his fault… Slump + Injury =/= Success
I STOPPED TAKING HGH BEFORE THE PLAYOFFS STARTED. I GOT SCARED…
9 run lead and they have Betencourt in? If Torre brought Joba in with a 9 run lead, he would be skewered in here.
what in the world is going thru Andy’s mind right now?
inside, inside – and more inside?
Is it me or do I think Cleveland is stupid for burning their two best relievers with a 9 run lead?
maybe the indians will have a let done after toniight i thought they will lose tonight and win the next two then loser game 4 and win game 5
Edwar is with the team. I saw him pat wang in the butt when he was going in to the clubhouse after torre got him out of the game. He is traveling with them but not on the postseason roster. so that means that he can be put in the roster for the alcs if they advance, because he wasn’t sent home.
I agree Andrew…here I’m hoping for Betancourt to throw a bunch of pitches.
God these annopuncers ar awful. Like giving an Academy Award acceptance speech for the Indians offensive outburst tonight. There is a simple explanation for this in baseball. It is calle $hit Happens (TM).
Tomorrow is do or die.
Wang sucks big time, man.
A 7 pitch AB for Leche counts as tonight’s moral victory. He actually put a good swing on the first pitch.
Vinny,
Wang has had more run support than any starter in the league this year. His wins total are the result of winning games against bad teams and getting a lot of run support.
He hasn’t pitched well against good teams all season, especially on the road.
That’s why he has to be done in this series if there is a Game 5. Pettitte is a better pitcher, will be on full rest, and is a better choice.
I don’t think Wang is a guy you can trust in a Game 5. Just my opinion based on how he has pitched this season.
If you have a choice, which they do (if they get to Game 5), I believe Pettitte is the hands down best choice.
Torre really slept away this game. Wang had nothing!!! Doesnt pitch good on the road, pitching on 7 YES 7 days rest. He should of had Hughes ready in the 4th inning when the socre was 4-3 or after the Martinez homerun at 6-3. You CANNOT allow Wang to give up 7 runs in 5 innings. Why is Hughes getting wasted in in this blowout game? Now you lose him for the series, does he really expect Clemens and Mussina to pitch shut out ball…Just pathetic job by Wang. Torre never should of pitched him on the road or changed the schedule so he would be pitching on 5 days rest.
Also let Giambi play tomorrow. Matsui’s at bats are absolutely beyond pathetic. He takes fastballs right down the middle??? Swing the damn bat. Melky is as overmatched as overmatched can be.
This should be an interesting postgame show tonight although I’m guessing a short one.
This was a team loss tonight, no timely hitting, crappy pitching. Good thing it only counts as one loss. Good night all.
AS I SAID GUYS, WE SHOULD GET USED TO THIS BY NOW.
PITCHERS AND CATCHERS IN 133 DAYS.
THERE IS ALWAYS NEXT YEAR, AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT, AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT, …..
The announcer just called our DH, Kaz Matsui.
Giambi just earned himself a start for tomorrow night.
Wang does not suck. You want to know who sucks, Matsui. He is dead weight and at this point we can get ALOT if we trade him. Get him the F out of here.
And you know what. Who else do you want on the mound in a big game like tomorrow?
ANDY PETTITIE.
Anyone on this blog, who considers themselves a Yankees fan, that says this series is over, give me your address and if you are in the New York-NJ area I will personally come beat the crap out of you.
Im sick of all you cry baby wannabe die hards. I have pride and faith in this team. We will win this series.
Did that announcer just say can’t post this ALL on ARod? Give me a break. Can we petition TBS to switch announcers for tomorrow? Please.
TBS ANNOUNCERS SUCK….”ITS HARD TO PUT THIS ONE ON AROD” NO SH#$
Did Brenly really just say this would be a tough one to pin on A-Rod as if he knows someone will try to.
Man…when was the last time Matsui got a hit? He is batting 0.185 in Sept/Oct. He needs to step up.
crappy start for wang… but on the road… and somewhere… steinbrenner exclaims… great to see you tommy!
Torre is going to get second guessed for a bunch of things tonite:
Starting Matsui, not bunting with Jeter, sticking with Wang too long. Obviously, Shelley should have started with Sabathia going tonight. Sometimes, Joe’s loyalty kills him.
Something also to remember: Kenny Lofton was a Yankee, but Joe wouldn’t play him because of Bernie Williams. While Yankee fans won’t argue with Joe with that, it showed he wasn’t washed up. Kenny killed us tonight, and you know he was loving every second of it.
They should be fine for tomorrow. Pete pointed out that the first game is no biggie. I feel like even if they lose tomorrow, they could still win the series.
I wish we had Kaz tonight (2B, 3B, HR, 5 RBIs) over Hideki. At least Giambi got a good hit.
Okay, just getting online now. A bad job overall tonight especially by Torre. I’m not sure it would have made a difference but this game should have been closer.
Duncan should have been in the starting line-up (as DH for Matsui) to balance out the lefties against Sabbathia. Joe remedied it by pinch hitting for him and getting him in there.
Torre stuck with Wang a bit too long. Once the team clawed to get it 4-3, Wang needed to be on a short leash. After 6-3 he needed to be pulled, and should have been pulled for Hughes. IMO you don’t waste Hughes in a blowout game. See what he can do, and then wrap up with Ohlendorf and Veras if things get out of hand. Your best pitchers should be pitching when the game is closest. I hate giving the Tribe a look at Hughes when we might need him again in a big spot.
Again, I doubt that we would have won the game, but we could have been in a better position had Torre handled the game better.
the yankees are in better shape than the angels because at least cleveland had to use betancourt and perez. they at least got in their bullpen. it’s better than having sabathia go 9 innings like beckett did.
Way to make Betencourt work
Matsui doesn’t need to step up…he needs to sit down on the bench.
Duncan should have been the DH tonight like everyone who has watched the Yankees this year, with the exception of Joe Torre, knew.
Leche, Giambi and Damon battling until the end in a 9 run game. You have to give credit to the professionalism at least.
C.C was not pitching well tonite
but c’mon…
5th inning, full loaded base , 1 out
and we couldn’t score!
and I think I dun need to stress about the
pitching tonite
I still can argue about Wang is a good pitcher
maybe his practising of slider and other breaking balls
make a bad influence to his deadly sinker etc etc
but enough with excuses. Wang was awful tonite
and then our bullpen, I dun need to say much….
I hope Game 1 is a good lesson for the team (and Torre)
so that they can pull themselves together
and start winning…
Carmona in the 5:00 shadows tomorrow. Andy has to be sharp from the git-go.
LETS JUST PUT THIS BABY TO BED…THE SUN WILL RISE TOMORROW
Pete,
Just for the record, I have a whole lotta faith in this team, and in tomorrow. That doesn’t make Torre’s errors any less aggravating. It’s not that the sky is falling. It’s that we’ll win this thing in spite of Joe, not because of him.
And just for the record, I’ve been saying that since this time last year.
Oh well, at least there’s no off day to have to stew over this.
Right back out there in 19 hours or so.
Quick switch — who ever thought that they’d be able to start any game on TBS on time after a Yankee game was smoking something.
But seriously, what is with the 9ft thing off of first base? What is the significance? And why red and green??
After reading this blog most of the night I’m just glad that none of you are managers of any baseball team
So, what I learned from tonight: the cutout at Jacob’s field’s infield is 9 feet from first.
I can’t wait to hear Bloe’s excuses?
bottom line – could’ve been closer, with the start Wang gave us it wasn’t going to happen – with CC starting you can’t complain about a loss too much. Come out tomorrow and beat carmona, sweep at home… hello boston/la angels of anaheim ca of the west coast of the united states
Carmine – It apparently is the same distance in Arizona.
Well, it’s ok. We have Pettitte tomorrow. If he can’t give us a quality performance after a loss, this postseason wasn’t meant to be.
yes Andy has to be on…and we need lead off hitters on, and then manufacture a run..not always hit the runner over…not going to happen too often against Carmona.
I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE KEPT A LEFTY RELIVER ON TEH ROSTER.
So many panic-stricken losers on this blog… wake up, this is baseball, you don’t need win every game, you need to win every elimination game
Jorje is calling the pitches,shouldn’t he get some of the
blame too? where are the yankees bats? 3 runs on a pitcher
with 114 pitch count, unbelievable crazy game!!!
CC beat us in 5 innings,the rest was icing on the cake.
I’m not impressed with Ross !!!!!
This team was prepared for the Yankees today.
The Yanks will not and can not win the World Series until they get real pitching. That means an ace pitcher who can face other teams aces. Wang is a good #2 starter…not an ace. Cant pitch on the road, runners on base hit over .300. Then a bullpen where everyone can get people out. Not just Rivera, now Joba and then everyone else. Pitching wins…Yanks havent had good enough pitching for 7 years. I have not given up but tonights game was a joke from pitching to situational hitting.
Also, Carmona pitches a lot like Wang so hopefully he’ll leave his sinkers belt-high tomorrow as well.
Just remember everyone, we were all in a good mood after game 1 last year.
Who knows what will happen, but like Pete said, if we learned anything from this season, don’t ever count this team out.
Carmona is a right handed pitcher, with a high leg kick and an average catcher behind the plate. Yankees better wear their track shoes tomorrow night and manufacture a few.
Didn’t we also lose Game 1 the last two times we advanced? Both against the Twins. I know we definitely did in 2004, but not sure about 2003.
Two points:
TBS coverage is mindbogglingly (is that a word?) awful. I’d rather have Joe Morgan over this pile of garbage they deem calling a game.
Second, it’s 1 game. I wish the panicky Pete’s would chill a bit.
Rough loss tonight, but tomorrow is another day boyos.
This loss is NOT on Joe, it is on Wang 1st, Posada 2nd and Matsui 3rd. Those guys did not come through tonight. Get off Joe’s ass. By the way, this series is NOT over by a long ways.
Okay, I’m getting off and avoiding all of the re-hashing of this game. All this means is that we get two home games now. (clay/Joe – anything ??)
Hey anyone who has played ball knows that this is a much easier game to swallow than losing a tight close game….Hell, they got they tails handed to them and now you move on…..Please , no Moose…..By the way, didn’t Matsui have 100 rbi’s this season…….Bad game yes, a bum, no
well good nite,
everyone that is negative about tonite, just let it go, it’s done and tomorrow is a new day.
let’s take these positives:
* their ‘pen (set up guy and closer) got more work than they should have.
* we saw their setup guy and closer’s pitches
* we shouldn’t be tired after that performance
*Hughes got his playoff jitters out (so did RO)
* Torre got his blunders out in the open and will learn from this
ok,now go to sleep and sweet dreams!
Carmine, I may be missing a series, but I really think the last time we won an opening game and won the series was back in ’99 when we beat Texas in the ALDS.
Of course that does not mean we’re gonna win this one, but it does mean that game 1 is not the most important game of the series.
Captain is right. Can’t pitch, can’t win.
Its why next year’s team will be better than this year’s team. Joba is a true #1 starter. Once he assumes that role, Wang can be put in a slot better suited for him in the rotation.
Fact is, the Yankees don’t have the pitching advantage with Wang against ANY of the #1 starters in the AL in the post-season. Its hard to win Game 1 when your ace is a weak link. He is, in comparison to Sabathia, Beckett and Lackey.
Its not the regular season. They aren’t going to slug their way out of Wang’s bad starts.
If they had a true, shutdown ace tonight, its a whole different game.
Pettitte is the closest thing they have (until Joba is in the rotation next year) to a true ace. He has to come up huge tomorrow night.
If not, another short stay in the playoffs for the Yankees.
I have a lot of confidence Andy will come up big tomorrow night. He’s the guy I want out there in a must win game.
Matsui needs to sit, give Giambi a shot at DH tomorrow. It’s not fair that Matsui is either in the field or at DH and he is not hitting the ball. There is definite favoritism going on here, the guy needs to sit when he is not hitting like everyone else does, he can’t play LF like Damon and he is not hitting, what more is there to say? Is Joe blind?
TOP TEN REASONS THIS FIRST ROUND EXIT IS A GOOD THING:
10. THIS ASSURES US THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE TO ENDURE ANOTHER SEASON OF TORRE’S BONE HEAD DECISIONS. GOOD LUCK JOE, IT WAS NICE KNOWIN’ YA!
9. THERE IS NO CHANCE WE WILL BLOW A 3 GAME LEAD TO THE RED SOX IN THE ALCS.
8. OUR HOT STOVE SEASON STARTS EARLY.
7. THE RED SOX WILL HAVE TO LISTEN TO THAT STUPID DRUM.
6. THERE IS NO CHANCE THAT WE WILL HAVE TO FACE THE ANGELS UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
5. WE CAN START OUR CHRISTMAS SHOPPING EARLY.
4. WE DON’T HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ON “2007 LEAGUE CHAMPION” T-SHIRTS.
3. CLEMENS WIL FINALLY RETIRE.
2. THE “BOSS” WILL NEVER KNOW THIS EVER HAPPENED.
1. HELLO JOE GERARDI!
Wang has the plus 10 wins that a # 1 is expected to provide, however he’s not shutdown type # 1 or an Ace that matches up real well vs. playoff type # 1′s as SJ points out…He will be the beast # 3 in MLB…Hell he could find himself behind both Hughes & Chamberlain next season….Then of course there’s Pettite ( I hope )…Still think he should have been fitted for game 3 at the Stadium…..
SJ-
They could have slugged out of this game. No? The RISP performance was awful and if it was better, then the whole pitching approach would have changed.
We won game 1 last year, how did that work out?
We just need Andy to pitch tomorrow and it will all be ok. I just wish A-Rod had gotten a hit in garbage time tonight to make sure he doesn’t turn the bat to sawdust on us. Jeter and Matsui too (although I would bring in Giambi to DH)
SJ-
They could have slugged out of this game. No? The RISP performance was awful and if it was better, then the whole pitching approach would have changed.
We won game 1 last year, how did that work out?
We just need Andy to pitch tomorrow and it will all be ok. I just wish A-Rod had gotten a hit in garbage time tonight to make sure he doesn’t turn the bat to sawdust on us. Jeter and Matsui too (although I would bring in Giambi to DH)
sorry for the double post
It is very obvious why the Yanks lost tonight, and it had less to do with Joe Torre than how players produced. Wang had a lousy game. Whether it was because of too much rest, his parents watching him, or whatever, he made bad pitches and good ML hitters hit those hard. Ohlendorf did nothing to justify the faith of Joe and Guidry in putting him on the roster instead of Villone. And Jorge and Matsui failed with men on base TWICE each. That’s why they lost.
Nothing else to say but go get’em tomorrow. They’ve done it before. Just have to do it now.
Pete…i submit to you 50% of tonight’s posts for evidence as to why registration should be required.
if we can’t beat carmona, Westbrook, and Byrd to win this thing then we deserve the early exit.
In through the nose, out through the mouth
Brian Bruney is a looser and cost yankees in the regular season.Who care what he said.
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to all of yankees fans:
it’s just only one game,bombers will comeback and win this series.Don’t stop believe.