Comments on: The Sunday links http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/ A Yankees Blog by Journal News beat writer Peter Abraham Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:17:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Yankees Chick http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166887 Yankees Chick Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:16:59 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166887 homegrown... i actually DO think posada is worth it - look at the catchers other teams have. a good catcher at any age is hard to come by. the key will be groom a young guy (or find one somewhere) that can start playing half time. let jorgie DH some times in a couple years. Part of his value is also that he hits equally well from both sides of the plate. homegrown… i actually DO think posada is worth it – look at the catchers other teams have. a good catcher at any age is hard to come by. the key will be groom a young guy (or find one somewhere) that can start playing half time. let jorgie DH some times in a couple years. Part of his value is also that he hits equally well from both sides of the plate.

]]> By: Homegrown http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166879 Homegrown Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:05:42 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166879 Yeah let's look at that bloody sock shall we? Why didn't Torre ask the umpire to order Schilling to take it off and put a new sock on? That's a distraction if I ever saw one. Since when can a pitcher wear a discolored sock? Why didn't Torre ask the umpire to look at that sock i.e. what if it wasn't blood but a foreign substance? It'd certainly get under Schilling's thin skin what you want and turnabout's fair play for all the hijinks Pedro pulled. Schilling hurts his ankle in his first start of the series, yet Torre doesn't start Kenny Lofton so Lofton could show no mercy and bunt on Schilling. Torre doesn't bunt as much as possible to put strain on Schilling. It's fair play, not dirty pool. When a guy fouls one off his foot, you bust him inside in that area so he doesn't think about swinging. As far as Posada leaving if Torre does, good riddance cuz that's just being an immature jerk and an ingrate. The Yankees gave Posada top years and dollars. They NEVER talked about trading him or letting him go, ever. He's probably made more money that prime I-Rod did adjusted to inflation. It's none of his business who manages the team and if he wants to make it that, then let him go cuz then that's letting the inmates run the asylum. Posada is too old to give 3 years @ $12M/yr. = $36M to. He's one bad injury via collision or whatever away from being an overpriced Greg Zaun. His .338 BA this year is an anomaly, he will not hit anywhere close to that. He will not have anything close to Damon/ Cabrera then Jeter/ Abreu/ A-Rod/ Matsui batting in front of him. Remember no Yanks to offer him a contract means his leverage is severely damaged. Teams will think "He's 36. When will he break down? Did he plateau in 2007?" Ramon Castro hit 11 HR in Yeah let’s look at that bloody sock shall we? Why didn’t Torre ask the umpire to order Schilling to take it off and put a new sock on? That’s a distraction if I ever saw one. Since when can a pitcher wear a discolored sock? Why didn’t Torre ask the umpire to look at that sock i.e. what if it wasn’t blood but a foreign substance? It’d certainly get under Schilling’s thin skin what you want and turnabout’s fair play for all the hijinks Pedro pulled. Schilling hurts his ankle in his first start of the series, yet Torre doesn’t start Kenny Lofton so Lofton could show no mercy and bunt on Schilling. Torre doesn’t bunt as much as possible to put strain on Schilling. It’s fair play, not dirty pool. When a guy fouls one off his foot, you bust him inside in that area so he doesn’t think about swinging.

As far as Posada leaving if Torre does, good riddance cuz that’s just being an immature jerk and an ingrate. The Yankees gave Posada top years and dollars. They NEVER talked about trading him or letting him go, ever. He’s probably made more money that prime I-Rod did adjusted to inflation. It’s none of his business who manages the team and if he wants to make it that, then let him go cuz then that’s letting the inmates run the asylum. Posada is too old to give 3 years @ $12M/yr. = $36M to. He’s one bad injury via collision or whatever away from being an overpriced Greg Zaun. His .338 BA this year is an anomaly, he will not hit anywhere close to that. He will not have anything close to Damon/ Cabrera then Jeter/ Abreu/ A-Rod/ Matsui batting in front of him. Remember no Yanks to offer him a contract means his leverage is severely damaged. Teams will think “He’s 36. When will he break down? Did he plateau in 2007?”

Ramon Castro hit 11 HR in

]]> By: Rivera http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166877 Rivera Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:03:19 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166877 This series is far far from over. A win today puts us just one lousy game behind the tribe. We need to catch fire fast and hope that Joe Weaver Torre doesn't dismantle the house of cards at an inopportune time. This series is far far from over. A win today puts us just one lousy game behind the tribe. We need to catch fire fast and hope that Joe Weaver Torre doesn’t dismantle the house of cards at an inopportune time.

]]> By: Rivera http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166875 Rivera Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:01:35 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166875 The strategy of dogging it the final week of the season is wreaking havoc right now. 'Setting up' rotations and 'resting' players is a double edged sword, something that clearly hasn't worked and has sucked the heart out of our beloved yankees. The yanks are in a 'rest' state of mind right now. Unfortunately you need to enter October fighting hard and furiously. They can still reclaim that aggressive attitude, but it has to happen quick. Unfortunately we have a Torre instead of a Martin or Piniella. Ballplayers need fire and determination, not rest, comfort or coddling. The strategy of dogging it the final week of the season is wreaking havoc right now. ‘Setting up’ rotations and ‘resting’ players is a double edged sword, something that clearly hasn’t worked and has sucked the heart out of our beloved yankees.

The yanks are in a ‘rest’ state of mind right now. Unfortunately you need to enter October fighting hard and furiously. They can still reclaim that aggressive attitude, but it has to happen quick. Unfortunately we have a Torre instead of a Martin or Piniella.

Ballplayers need fire and determination, not rest, comfort or coddling.

]]> By: Rivera http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166872 Rivera Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:57:57 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166872 "Your defense of Torre is tiresome, Peter." Careful, Pete doesn't take too well to criticism of any kind. “Your defense of Torre is tiresome, Peter.”

Careful, Pete doesn’t take too well to criticism of any kind.

]]> By: willis http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166868 willis Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:54:45 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166868 Jim Clark More like LaRussa didn't want to know.. Jim Clark

More like LaRussa didn’t want to know..

]]> By: willis http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166867 willis Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:53:38 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166867 Girardi or Mattingly? Girardi or Mattingly?

]]> By: Jim Clark http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166866 Jim Clark Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:53:36 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166866 I think Posada and Rivera will give the Yankees a Torre discount. If Torre is let go they may stay but money becomes more of a factor. Torre is not as stupid as LaRussa who had no idea McGwire was juicing. I think Posada and Rivera will give the Yankees a Torre discount. If Torre is let go they may stay but money becomes more of a factor. Torre is not as stupid as LaRussa who had no idea McGwire was juicing.

]]> By: Homegrown http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166863 Homegrown Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:48:15 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166863 Oh b.t.w. any of you think I'm saying the Yanks will lose tonight get a clue. I root for them as hard as anyone as unlike alot of you I don't lay claim to "biggest Yankee fan". I truly hope the Yankees win the 2007 World Series, I'm not one to hope they don't win so Torre can be fired. If they won it all, and the Yanks brought back Torre for another year, cool. To say "Oh I don't want him back" after another ticker-tape parade is just not liking the guy, and truth be told, despite what will be labeled as "anti-Torre" au contraire: I have deep respect for him as a spokesman against child abuse, his charity work, and insofaras what I've read, being a regular guy with fans. It's purely about his managing and did it ever occur to you that a manager can fade like a player? It'd just be in a different way. Torre's main problem is he doesn't have the Mendoza to Nelson or Stanton then Mo combo. Yeah he has Joba then Mo, but what if he had a guy behind them good enough to pitch the 7th then Joba for the 8th and Mo to close it? You could say "Well that's Cashman's job." Yes, but TO A POINT. At some point, the manager has to discern who to go to from what he has been given. He had plenty of time to figure out a bridge between the starter and Joba in September, but he took the easy way out and chose Joba to Mo. He didn't figure out that 7th inning bridge. The Yanks paid for it dearly in Game 2. B.t.w. Cashman should be fired if the Yanks get knocked out early cuz he clearly did not do his job putting together a deep bullpen besides lucking out with Joba who will be a starter next year, so there goes the bullpen -better take out the checkbook and spend about $20M on 6 new guys and another $22-30M to keep Mo cuz there's no one in your wretched farm system outside of Joba, Hughes, and Kennedy to give a job to next year. Ohlendorf and Hughes are a former and current starter, respectively. Ohlendorf and Veras had Oh b.t.w. any of you think I’m saying the Yanks will lose tonight get a clue. I root for them as hard as anyone as unlike alot of you I don’t lay claim to “biggest Yankee fan”.

I truly hope the Yankees win the 2007 World Series, I’m not one to hope they don’t win so Torre can be fired. If they won it all, and the Yanks brought back Torre for another year, cool. To say “Oh I don’t want him back” after another ticker-tape parade is just not liking the guy, and truth be told, despite what will be labeled as “anti-Torre” au contraire: I have deep respect for him as a spokesman against child abuse, his charity work, and insofaras what I’ve read, being a regular guy with fans. It’s purely about his managing and did it ever occur to you that a manager can fade like a player? It’d just be in a different way.

Torre’s main problem is he doesn’t have the Mendoza to Nelson or Stanton then Mo combo. Yeah he has Joba then Mo, but what if he had a guy behind them good enough to pitch the 7th then Joba for the 8th and Mo to close it? You could say “Well that’s Cashman’s job.” Yes, but TO A POINT. At some point, the manager has to discern who to go to from what he has been given. He had plenty of time to figure out a bridge between the starter and Joba in September, but he took the easy way out and chose Joba to Mo. He didn’t figure out that 7th inning bridge. The Yanks paid for it dearly in Game 2.

B.t.w. Cashman should be fired if the Yanks get knocked out early cuz he clearly did not do his job putting together a deep bullpen besides lucking out with Joba who will be a starter next year, so there goes the bullpen -better take out the checkbook and spend about $20M on 6 new guys and another $22-30M to keep Mo cuz there’s no one in your wretched farm system outside of Joba, Hughes, and Kennedy to give a job to next year. Ohlendorf and Hughes are a former and current starter, respectively. Ohlendorf and Veras had

]]> By: BBFan http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166857 BBFan Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:37:59 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/07/the-sunday-links-35/#comment-166857 The bottomline is Yanks have been failing in the postseason for five years, sometimes early and sometimes later. When that happens consistently, the mangaer has to be accountable. Torre's bonehead moves or non-moves (bugs, bloody sock bunt,...) are well documented. He is an honorable man, but results matter. I am glad Big Stein spoke up and took the mystery out of what will happen. I beleive that Yanks have to make it to the WS for Torre to save his job. The reason is, if Yanks make past this round (I still beleive they will), then they will face Rex Sox in ALCS unless Angels make a comeback. If Yanks lose to Red Sox in the ALCS, no way Big Stein will bring back Torre. I continue to be amazed at what Pete continues to write that Posada will leave if Torre is not brought back. Once again, it is utter non-sense. If Girardi is the next manager, will Posada hold agianst him, given how Girardi mentored him and gladly accepted backup role when he was playing with Yanks? If Mattingly is the manager, will Posada hold against him? come on..... The bottomline is Yanks have been failing in the postseason for five years, sometimes early and sometimes later. When that happens consistently, the mangaer has to be accountable. Torre’s bonehead moves or non-moves (bugs, bloody sock bunt,...) are well documented. He is an honorable man, but results matter. I am glad Big Stein spoke up and took the mystery out of what will happen.

I beleive that Yanks have to make it to the WS for Torre to save his job. The reason is, if Yanks make past this round (I still beleive they will), then they will face Rex Sox in ALCS unless Angels make a comeback. If Yanks lose to Red Sox in the ALCS, no way Big Stein will bring back Torre.

I continue to be amazed at what Pete continues to write that Posada will leave if Torre is not brought back. Once again, it is utter non-sense. If Girardi is the next manager, will Posada hold agianst him, given how Girardi mentored him and gladly accepted backup role when he was playing with Yanks? If Mattingly is the manager, will Posada hold against him? come on…..

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