Donnie Baseball makes a stand
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Don Mattingly on Joe Torre:
“Let me put it this way, and it’s really pretty simple for me. He deserves to be treated with respect. No matter what happens, no matter what the decision is, Joe Torre needs to be treated with respect.
“Anything less than that, to me, would be unacceptable. He deserves that. You don’t hear him talk bad about the organization; you don’t hear him talk bad about any members of it. You don’t hear nothing negative from Joe in those terms. He’s handled himself with class. He needs to be treated with respect. … He has demanded it in a sense by the way he’s treated everyone and the job that he did.”
Strong words from the bench coach, especially considering he’s a candidate for the job.
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Read the post on my blog about my thoughts on the manager situation if you get a chance please
donnie is the definition of a true Yankee. This comment just shows why he is the leading candidate!!
This statement has bothered me all day. Other coaches and all the players have stood by Torre and said he should stay, and the manager-in-waiting talks about he deserves respect as he’s fired.
I know Mattingly is sainted around these parts (and rightly so), but this message just rubbed me the wrong way.
This is turning really nasty really quick.
I’ll ask again…Why you don’t get rid of a guy who commands the respect of so many?
I’ll tell you one thing, Mattingly is really doing a great job of selling himself. He is already showing initiative and drive like this can only help him when he is considered as the next manager. He is standing up for what he believes in and he is unafraid of any repercussions that his words might have. He could be the guy.
That should be…
Why do you get rid of a guy who commands the respect of so many?
Peter,
That statement by Donnie answers part of your question why people like Donnie so much.
Stephen what are you reading? I must be missing something. It sounds like he is saying that if Torre is not re-hired than he should be treated with the respect he deserves.
Off topic but here’s a story I have
In the middle of June with the Yankees looking dead and the Red Sawx doing great I made a bet with a Red Sox fan on a forum I visit (Baseball-fever.com check it out, its pretty cool)
“If the Yankees last longer than the Red Sox do than you have to wear and Yankees avatar and sig until Manny reports to ST
If the Red Sox last longer than the Yankees than I have to wear a Red Sox avatar and sig until New Years Day”
At that point ironically the Yankees turned around their season and started winning. I actually was pretty confident I`d win going into October. However, sadly I lost but its only two months at least. In 2004 one member had to wear a Boston avatar/sig from Novemebr through April
I agree completely with Stephen. Mattingly, knowingly or unknowingly, is talking about Torre in the past tense, whereas everyone else refuses to accept that he has been fired.
I can understand how he might be excited about the prospect of being appointed as the manager, but he needs to show some of that class that people expect from him.
What is Mattingly supposed to say, “Yeah, obviously I want Joe’s job and can’t wait when it’s my turn to be in control. Joe has held us back.”? LOL
General manager Brian Cashman said the club was just beginning its decision-making process and he would soon meet with ownership.
“Have some patience. Things take time. There will be a process and we’ll work through that, and it will lead us where it leads us,� Cashman said.
Why isn’t Cashman endorsing Joe and supporting him now. Joe had to work with the lousy pitching staff that Cash assembled and I would hate to see him not pay the price. Hire Torre back and get a new GM, who can focus on local young talent instaed of bringing in several over the hill losers.
Carson Torres’ contract has expired, he can not be fired and please point out the past tense you.
Cashman has been focusing on local young talent.
Peter, you look so much different than how I might of thought. Good interview, well spoken. I think you hit the nail on the head. We need A-Rod more than he needs us, but if he is a baseball historian, certainly he puts more stock in going in to the HOF as a Yankee, right?…. …. …. …. right?
Ravi – I think Cashman has been focusing on young, homegrown talent, and has been avoiding bringing older players with longer contracts. Pettitte and Mussina both got two year deals, Clemens just one year. I doubt Cash will sign any veteran not named Alex to a contract longer than three years. We’ve seen some good young talent this year and I think we will see more in the coming years.
Pete,
Now you know why Mattingly is held in such high regard by Yankee fans…(Going back to the post a day or so ago) He is as classy and professional as they come. Oh, and he knows a little something about baseball and how it is supposed to be played….
Yes, in years past the Yankees definitely would have at least looked at Barry Zito last year. They may have also looked at Gil Meche. But they allowed Cashman to stick to his guns and not get locked into those long-term deals. Just like Zito and Meche commanded 7 and 5 year deals, Cashman went the safe route and signed Andy Pettitte to a 1-year deal with a player option for next year. This year the Yankees introduced Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, and Ian Kennedy to the big leagues. Now THAT’s local young talent!
Peter
Thanks for a great blog.
Whats your gut feeling, who will be manager on opening day and will Arod be there as a Yankee?
By the way, I have to brag that I predicted Zito to have an ERA over 4.30 before the season. Sorry, done now
We Yankees fans expect too much.
We expect a World Series every year. We expect our team to make decisions… leterally over night.
Take it from me, I used to work for Yankees Magazine… THe Yankees are a business, just like your business, or just like the business you work for… except there are 9 million repoters around. Would you expect any business to make any major decision about it’s future less than 24 hours after the end of its fiscal year? Froget about the reporters. Peter’s got a job to do too, and that’s to keep you reading. The Steinbrenner thing in the Daily News was probably fake. Get over it.
If the Yankees knew what was best for themselves from any kind of business standpoint, they’d give Joe Torre another three years… and groom a successor. Don’t listen to Pete, or the Post, or the News, or the Times…. they’re all just trying to get readers, it’s business.
“The Yankees” as a business, are taking the day off.
Get a life.
mattingly talks the talk but he cant walk the walk. to me, as a manager he is all bark and no bite, good player though.
like joe, donnie baseball is a class-act.
and “.i.”, donnie has never BEEN a manager, so how do you know he “is all bark and no bite” as a manager? me confused.
just fire torre already and let this drama all end.
The way the game is today, a successful franchise needs a blend of youth with upside and a certain amount of veterans to guide them while still able to play well enough themselves to show example.
The Yankees are attempting to win while at the same time go through a transition of getting younger – a delicate balance to achieve maximum chemistry. The phasing out of contracts like those of Giambi and Mussina are part of the process.
Well said VOIII.
Last week said he Pete didnt understand why Mattingly got the loudest ovation when introduced at the Stadium.
During the Ugly Eighties Don Mattingly not only gave us pride with his flawless play, he was a beacon of class and decency as opposed to Steinbrenner’s Howie Spira et al embarassments.
I need new glasses. I cant type for nuthin
Torre doesn’t have to be fired, just replaced. His contract has expired. Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones never fired Tom Landry, he just moved on without him and hired Jimmy Johnson. The Yankees have the same situation. They don’t have to fire Torre, just name a replacement and move on.
Very good ~ Adam. You’ve just made easy work to many in taking the guesswork out of why you used to work for Yankees Magazine. Past tense.
I love all this Mattingly doesn’t have the experience BS…Since when did Baseball become rocket science? Eric Wedge wasn’t all that experienced was he? How did Girardi do with no managing experience? Oh yeah that’s right he won NL manager of the year!!!!The only thing needed on a resume to manage this team will be a knowledge of the game and the ability to handle the NY media and George. I think Donnie freaken Baseball can handle that. When did Torre become a God? All year everyone’s ripping him for his BP management and the line-up changes and now he’s the life blood of the organization. The guy cost totaly got out managed in almost every Post Season since 2000 and has been lost since Zimmer left. The 2004 collapse was an embarasment to the sport. He had something to do with that. Like not pitching around Big fat Papi, Like not bunting on Schilling just to name a few mistakes of many in that series. The man should be revered and should get a boatload of respect. However he should not get a lifetime pass to the manager’s office. Donnie will be fine…
Sign Alex to an extension, re-up Mo and Posasda for three, pick up Abreu’s one year option, convert Matsui to 1B, and go get one more pitcher and some middle relief.
I just don’t see how they don’t bring him back. Give him a few more years, let him groom Donnie a little more then he can go out with glory. Donnie is right Joe deserves some respect here. He has done nothing but be a class act for this organization.
I’d rather have Girardi.
Are the Steinbrenners boiling tar and gathering feathers in monument park? Or are they lighting torches and carrying pitchforks like the simple Frankenstein villagers? Has Mattingly “pulled a Sherman” and said he will refuse the Yankee job if Torre isn’t offered an extension?
This whole thing is being mishandled by everyone involved. But that’s to be expected given the culture George created.
You’d think if all involved just had the best interests of the team involved they would have figured out all of this behind closed doors, and I’m sure Torre would have been big enough to come out and “pass the torch” to Mattingly(if that’s indeed who it’s gonna be). Torre’s loyalist players would be more likely to stay if it happened that way I would guess. Mattingly wouldn’t have to be in the awkward situation he’s in.
George should have kept his mouth shut. Nothing good came of that stupid interview the other day. Nothing.
I think a lot of us are torn between our own love of Torre for the memories he has provided us as fans (after all, he’s been one of the few remaining people in the dugout from the glorious run in the late 90s) and our desire to get something new. We don’t blame the manager, we point at all the players and say: They’re not producing. What more can Joe do?
I don’t know, myself. I don’t know if ther eis anything else that Joe can do. I love the guy as a person and a manager, and if he comes back, I’ll be happy.
But if he isn’t brought back (remember his contract is UP. He’s not being “fired.”) Then I hope we get another “True Yankee” in his seat.
No one is bigger than the Yankees. Not even The Boss (I mean Steinbrenner, not Springsteen.)
The Yankees have had an incredible run, but maybe another manager would change the dynamic in a way that would make them perform better in the post season. They seem to do fine in the regular season. Torre’s failure has really only been, lately, in the post season.
And even if Torre leaves. It doesn’t mean he’s gone forever. Unlike players, Managers aren’t limited to age 45 (46? 47? let us know Roger.)
We’ll all still be here. Even if we lose those beautiful players that gave us all the best baseball memories of our lives. Because we’re Yankee fans. And we love the Yankees.
Mattingly has made his respect and feelings for Torre clear throughout and has defended him repeatedly over the course of the season, especially at the start when there were rumblings of joe being in trouble.
He’s a class act. If people want to read some devious motive behind these statements so be it. Mattingly has been on the up and up on this throughout.
It’s amazing that the near universal respect that the players and Cashman have for Joe seem to mean so little.
Welcome to the 1980’s.
Oh yeah. I echo the statements of Paul9. At least in terms of DOING the right thing: Re-sign him to a 1-3 year contract and say that’ll be the end of his tenure. Name a successor in the last year or whatever.
It would give EVERYONE a chance to say goodbye and give him respect and love that we want to.
Many are anxiously awaiting a statement to back Torre from none other than Carl Pavano himself who singlehandedly put a hex on the 2007 Yankees by toeing the mound on Opening Day.
Many are anxiously awaiting a statement to back Torre from none other than Carl Pavano himself who singlehandedly put a hex on the 2007 Yankees by toeing the mound on Opening Day.
I don;t doubt it
I bet he`s feeling extremely dissapointed his team didn’t manage to pull it out in the end. he was probably throwing things at the TV
Of course no one ever really knows what a person truly is like, but I really don’t think Mattingly is the kind of guy who would be campaigning for Joe to be let go.
He hasn’t hidden the fact he wants to mange and may very well have been promised the job when Torre is gone. That doesn’t mean he is trying to force him out.
I really don’t want to see the media start to vilify Mattingly with no reasons other than speculation.
What did Boras just say on ESPNews?
NVM, meant Rosenhaus
JIM cLARK,NO THEY ARE JUST NUTS TO TREAT jOE WITH ANYTHING LESS THAN RESPECT AT THIS TIME!!!
Maybe Donnie knows it’s a done deal.
Truck,
Very well said. Everything does have to come to an end and something does need to be changed regarding the dynamic in the playoffs.
I personally don’t think the major factor in this lack of playoff success is Joe. Baseball is just not like football where the coach impacts games in a concrete fashion. Joe isn’t perfect but no manager is. They’ve had tremendous success with him at the helm and that’s just being discounted now. In many ways he’s a victim of his own success.
Anything beside 4 world series in 6 years is perceived as a dissappointment.
That said, it is difficult to get rid of all the players, especially when you have an all star at every position. How do they no hit in the post season? The pitching you can see what the problems are. The hitting is mystifying.
Either way its inexcusable what they are doing with Torre and unclear how any of these potential candidates are going to change that playoff dynamic.
I saw Steinbrenner’s entrance into Yankee Stadium Sunday night with my own eyes. He shuffled more than walked, his face was expressionless and sagging. He needs help to move. The man is obviously not well. I’ve had members of my family stricken with Alzheimer’s. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if George was in the beginning stages. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
I’m confused about Donnie’s statement. First of all, who is disrespecting Torre? Anyone, except maybe a few reporters in Westchester? It sounds like the more we make of not respecting him, its going to rutn into an issue. Lets see how the Boss handles it and everyone else shut up.
There is no firing going on. The question is if the Yankees want to re-hire Joe.
But secondly, Donnie’s statement sounds a bit disingenuous, I hope not, but possibly. He’s obviously gunning for the job and its an opportunity for him to make some noise. I love Donnie, but maybe he should just stand pat and let it play out.
I just hope we don’t get another weeping Joe Torre being re-hired one month into the season.(ala Billy)after Mattingly is fired (ala Yogi). Its happened before.
Mike- Carl would have to throw things at the TV with his left hand, of course. We wouldn’t want to harm that magical surgically repaired right elbow!
Breaking news
Roger Clemens is going to be back next season and Yankees are also in talks with David for a return to the Yankees next season(The Rocket never retires). Also Yanks are in talks with Chad Pennington of the NY Jets to make the opening day roster for 2008 as the starting Pitcher. LOL.
Wow. Digging around I found that Peter made atleast THREE apperances today on ESPN.
http://tinyurl.com/2kgqej
In this clip, Peter reviews the issues facing the Yankees
I’ll post Peter’s 3rd clip, along with some other interesting interviews, including Cashman, overnite.
There’s many managers that realize that they’ve been hired to be fired. Since the game itself began, a manager is always the scapegoat for the failures of a team. That will never change. You can’t fire 25 players. As soon as a manager stops pushing the right buttons, he’s gone. Some just push them longer than others.
I appreciate Mattingly standing up for Joe, but what exactly amounts to “respect for Joe” at this point, prior to a decision being announced?
As I see it, no one at Yankee HQ was prepared to make a decision on whether Joe stayed or left prior to seeing how the ALDS turned out. Is that what constitutes disrespect in Donnie’s eyes? That’s not a very reasonable position knowing that you all work for George and winning is the only thing and that the team has been sent home in the first round the last three years.
Now Cashman says we have a process to go through. A new contract for Joe would require negotiation and that takes time. Similarly, deciding that they are really sure they want Torre to go away requires some gut checking and that takes time too. Either way, it’s a good thing, not a bad thing, that Cashman thinks some time will pass before a decision is reached as long as it’s not an unreasonable amount of time.
I think Mattingly should have ignored Steinbrenner’s remarks and talked instead about trusting the Yankee process to be fair to Joe, and waited until a decision was announced. Then he could justifiably set fire to everything if the decision was a bad one or it was handled the wrong way or it took way too long. What’s Donnie accomplished by making this an issue of “respect” when we don’t know the outcome of “the process” yet or how soon a decision may be rendered? Donnie spoke too soon.
In the meantime, Joe should have dinner with the St Louis owners and see whether Big Stein gets jealous.
I do not think Mattingly is the answer. He is too much like Joe but with no experience. for that matter they might as well keep Joe. If they go with LaRussa they risk losing guys like, Jorge, Andy and Mariano. I think if the want a change in coaching style but want to keep peace with the veterans they should bring in Joe Girardi.
Does anyone have or know where to hear the audio of Suzyn Waldman crying from yesterday?
I think there’s still hope for Torre.
http://www.boston.com/news/glo.....07cat?pg=3
It’s not like Oscar da Mystic Cat is hold a vigil outside Yankee Stadium.
the longer the yankees wait on making a decision, the more the fans will get use to the possibilty that torre might stay. We were all convinced in the 2nd inning last night that he wouldnt make it to midnight, by the 9th inning we had accepted it. By this morning we were moving on. By the afternoon we started to doubt, now, it seems its might be up in the air. The more they wait, the worst the backlash will be. I have a feeling this will be ugly when the yankees make, what seems now to be, their unpopular decision in not bringing back torre.
Stewie G-
why yes, I do know someone who has the Suzy clip.
http://tinyurl.com/2xaaay
It’s a HOOT – Sterling has to remind her nobody died. I set the audio to pictures (naturally), unfortunately I couldnt find any good pictures of Suzy, so I used photos of Kim Jones instead; which makes it even funnier.
Dr. Acula, who is the redheaded chick you have right in the middle of all the kim jones pictures in your susan waldman video?
I’m stunned that anyone would read anything less than honorable in what Don Mattingly said. Anyone who followed this team in the 80s on a daily basis knows that this was a team first guy who would NEVER say anything against another teammate in public or to the press. If he had an issue with a teammate back then, he’d say it to the player privately with as little fuss as possible. You might read about it much later on in the papers (and I said “might”). I’d imagine that holds just as true today with the manager.
Dr. A.
Just listened to it. That was great and listening to Sterlibg try to console her was even more funnier. I enjoyed listening to her when she first started on WFAN years ago. But ever since she switched over to the radio side, shes gone downhill.
Thanks for the audio.
pat m,
Completely agree. The idea that people are reading negative intentions into what Donnie said or the idea that he was being disingenuous is completely off mark. That’s completely, entirely out of character for mattingly. He’s never shown any back stabbing characteristics in the past.
That’s just people reading a quote and interpreting it cynically. Mattingly loves Torre. There is no way he’s angling for that job by making damning statements in the press.
hey everyone just wanted you guys to know that Pete is gonna be on WFAN around 10:40, with Marc Malusis. Topic: shocker here, Yanks.
Seany Boy you beat me to it!! I was just getting on to let everyone know.
Question, isn’t what Boras is doing considered tampering. He is after all still under contract. How can he speak publically about what he thinks he is worth.
“Why isn’t Cashman endorsing Joe and supporting him now. Joe had to work with the lousy pitching staff that Cash assembled and I would hate to see him not pay the price. Hire Torre back and get a new GM, who can focus on local young talent instaed of bringing in several over the hill losers.”
you are clueless.
really, you don’t think Cashman is focused on young talent?
were you watching this season?
Melky
Cano
Wang
Hughes
Joba
Kennedy
Duncan
plenty more in the pipeline.
why don’t you bring your criticism back to 2004 when it actually made sense?
Just like everyone on this blog, as a true Yanks fan, I’ve felt nothing but sadness today with the results last night. It was the end of an era. I lived my prime years through Joe Torre. I remember watching Charlie Hayes catch that foul ball in 1996 when I was 13 years old. I teared when Paul O’Neill, Tino, BERNIE, etc. left. This is why last night hit me hard. The rest of our heart – Torre, Posada, Mo may be going as well. If we don;t re-sign Posada and Mo, they’ll be a publci outcry.
And as someone pointed out, how can Cash endorse him, if someones mind is made up in the organization than it looks as though Cash has no juice in the org. it reflects poorly on him.
What is everyones limit on a contract for Alex? Years/money?
I think to give him a 10 year contract is nuts! Yeah he is producing now, but who knows 4-5-6 years from now.
For my money he still has 4 years left on this deal at very good money, it is absolutley sick that his money hungry agent wants something in the range of half a BBBBBILLION dollars!! I wouldn’t see that money in a million lifetimes!!
GRAMMATICAL CLARIFICATION
Mattingly’s statement contains no past perfect. His use of past is imperfect.
“Pete’s blog was great” = past perfect, i.e. the blog is past tense and exists only in the past
“Pete’s blog has been great” = past imperfect, i.e. it includes the possibility of continuing
“Question, isn’t what Boras is doing considered tampering. He is after all still under contract. How can he speak publically about what he thinks he is worth.”
jennifer, i don’t see how this is tampering. it’s only tampering if he starts talking to other teams to see how much they would be willing to pay.
he is alex’s agent. it’s his job to say that alex is worth 1 bajillion dollars.
“For my money he still has 4 years left on this deal at very good money, it is absolutley sick that his money hungry agent wants something in the range of half a BBBBBILLION dollars!! ”
well, it’s 3 years.
and it’s Boras’ JOB to say that. no one is going to give him $500M. but when you are negotiating you always want to ask for the moon first, right?
Dr. Acula…is there any more of that Waldman Clubhouse report you can post? I’d like to hear it in its entirety.
Great job with these links…
2008 Yankees:
Coach: Geez, PLEASE DONT LET IT BE TONY LARUSSA! He is essentially the same as Torre. We need a younger coach to achor this rebuilding team.
Starting Pitching is set:
#1 – Pettite – a strong veteran to anchor the rotation, we need Andy back!
#2 – Wang
#3 – Hughes
#4 – Chamberlain
#5 – Kennedy
Other options: Humberto Sanchez, Minor League. I just can;t see the Yanks bringing in another veteran. The rotation looks to be set and young and exciting! We need help in the bullpen.
As far as Mussina goes, he is a #5 at best. The only way I see Mussina getting in the rotation is if Pettite doesn’t return or Chamberlain stays in the bullpen.
Position Player Moves:
1B – Andy Philips/Shelly Duncan platoon – dump Doug Meintkiewicz – Philips and Duncan are just as good defensively, and both have alot more pop than Dougie.
2B – Cano
SS – Jeter
3B – HOPEFULLY A-Rod, if not, free agent to be named
CF – Melky
LF – Matsui – has showed signs of decline, but stil stuck with him for 2 years
RF – ?
We’re still stuck with Giambi for one more year, dont know where he fits into this.
Damon is another question.
Lots of questions, lots of old guys that we want to dump but we cant yet (Mussina, Giambi), etc. etc.
Should be an interesting offseason!
But I don’t trust Boras as far as I can throw him. Everyone knows that with Nancy Drew, he knew the deal he would get from the soxs. So I wouldn’t be shocked if he knows the deals that would be out there for Alex, in fact I’d bet my life savings on it. Okay well maybe not. But he knows!
Pete Abe on now.
PeteAbe on the Fan now.
Pete you need a segment on WFAN really because Sweeny Murti does nothing for me
Pete is trying to get Philip Hughes, Melky and Ian Kennedy traded for Santana
PeteAbe-
Sorry, I don’t trade Melky, Kennedy and Hughes for Santana. Johan is great but I don’t give up two high ceiling young quality arms for ONE older (but still in his prime) starter. Maybe I’d trade one, but not two.
why not wait for Johan to be a FA, he’s 1 yr. away
Pete- good job, one complaint or comment. you’re nuts trade Kennedy, Phil and Melky! NO NO NO!!
Also regarding your comment on Donnie, if you’ve read thru these comments most of us don’t want Donnie as the manager. There would be no need for explanation by the Yankees.
Brandon,
Johan can sign a contract extension with a team he gets traded too. No sure thing he hits free agency.
Hughes and Kennedy can give you 60 starts a year. Santana only gives 30. Hughes also seems to be coming in to his own. I want Santana, preferably as a free agent, but that is too high a price to pay.
Plus Hughes and kennedy’s combined salary is 600,000. Where as Johan would be commanding 28 million or so.
Dr.Acula, get some Waldman pics on that video I like Kim Jones keep her out of that
Jennifer, excellent point. In addition to losing depth, you’d be taking on salary with Santana. Kennedy may not have as high an upside as the others so Id consider it, but Joba and Hughes are almost untouchable imo.
here Jennifer..
http://blog.masslive.com/tunin.....04-320.JPG
Brandon is right. Don’t trash Kim by equating her with Waldmyn. Kim Jones is one of the few I will listen to on YES. I like her attempts to elicit something resembling personality from Jeter in the postgames. Keep up the great work. I heard somewhere that she might be let go from YES.
No trades for Santana. PLEASE! I’m down with throwing FA$ at him when the time comes. Especially with Petite gone and Moose gone as well.
Not quite sure what Mattingly would bring to the table that Torre doesn’t change for changes sake I guess sometimes that makes sense, but I think if the Boss does something it should be all the way not incremental.
Dr Acula you are a surgeon with those clips.
Thanks.
CB
I’m gonna guess that the people who read negatively into Mattingly’s comments are too young or didn’t follow the team to have remembered Mattingly as a ballplayer and as a clubhouse presence. If I’m wrong, I apologize.
I’m curious as to where the Mattingly is a Torre clone idea comes from though. Because he sat next to him for the last 2 seasons? Because his demeanor is calm and low-key?
Yes he has no managerial experience. But FWIW, he was a damn smart player –no mental mistakes or bad baserunning. None. He was the captain. He commanded respect thru his example (and with the occaisional word behind the scenes). He played for this team when it was still a contending team, when no free agent would come here because of the Boss, when it finished in last, and when it finally made it back to the postseason. He played under Yogi,Piniella, Billy, Dent, Stump Merrill, Dallas Green and Showalter (did I miss someone there?). Don’t you think he learned a thing or two under them as well as Joe?
I don’t know if he’s the right choice to succeed Joe. Given the requirements of the job and how passionately so many feel about Torre, who is? It’s going to be a rough ride for whoever does come in. I just hope that the team gets off to a good enough start so the new manager can get acclimated. And that the fans give him a grace period before 2nd guessing moves.
Carson-
She was on “Yankees’ Road Trip” (in with the keeping Yankee orientation).
She had the perfect “shocked” look.
I wonder if Mattingly found out for certain that the Yankees have already reached out to LaRussa?
That might explain some of the comments. Perhaps he found out he’s not 1st in line as promised and he’s pissed.
Personally, I think he has more character than that, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
Here’s the full clip Suzy Waldman crying
http://tinyurl.com/yqphzaclip
Runs 6:53
Regarding Mattingly:
http://tinyurl.com/2fl7pr
Here’s a short clip. To me, it looks like Donnie is speaking up, on behalf of Joe.
I still feel as we should go after a big pitcher like Santana. I wouldn’t want to see Joba, Hughes, IPK, or perhpas some other prospects get traded form him, but for some FA’s and some cash that seems doable. I think with the possibility of Pettitte and Clemens gone it’s worth it to solidify our rotation with another pitcher who’s been around, since Moose is the only guy we can count on.
AS far as a managerial standpoint, I wouldn’t mind Joe G if we can clear him as a suitable manager, and that the FO problems from the Marlins wasn’t his fault. Mattingly would be my second.