Comments on: Day 2 on Joe Torre Watch commences http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/ A New York Yankees blog by Sam Borden, Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:24:13 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: sunny615 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/comment-page-4/#comment-172992 sunny615 Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:08:31 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/#comment-172992 _This year? He starts Wang then Pettitte in Cleveland, not Pettitte then Hughes. It should’ve been Pettitte/ Hughes/ Wang/ Clemens/ Pettitte & all hands on deck save Clemens in Cleveland Game 5. Wang and Clemens pitch at Yankee Stadium. Hughes pitches in Cleveland away from the pressure of performing in front of the home crowd as who wants to fail in front of them? An opposing crowd is better cuz you expect boos there. Mussina could’ve been on standby in case Hughes got in trouble._ Hmmm... Pitcher A 4.46 ERA, 5W, 3L, 72IP, 39R, 36ER, 8 HR, 29BB, 58SO, 1.28 WHIP Pitcher B 3.70 ERA, 19W, 7L, 199.1IP, 84R, 82ER, 9HR, 59BB, 104SO 1.29 WHIP Who starts game one of your LDS? So you start a rookie with a 5-3 record and a 4.46 era versus a 19 game winner with a 3.70 ERA. How does life look with those hindsight 20-20 glasses of yours? _This year? He starts Wang then Pettitte in Cleveland, not Pettitte then Hughes. It should’ve been Pettitte/ Hughes/ Wang/ Clemens/ Pettitte & all hands on deck save Clemens in Cleveland Game 5. Wang and Clemens pitch at Yankee Stadium. Hughes pitches in Cleveland away from the pressure of performing in front of the home crowd as who wants to fail in front of them? An opposing crowd is better cuz you expect boos there. Mussina could’ve been on standby in case Hughes got in trouble._

Hmmm…
Pitcher A
4.46 ERA, 5W, 3L, 72IP, 39R, 36ER, 8 HR, 29BB, 58SO, 1.28 WHIP

Pitcher B
3.70 ERA, 19W, 7L, 199.1IP, 84R, 82ER, 9HR, 59BB, 104SO 1.29 WHIP

Who starts game one of your LDS?

So you start a rookie with a 5-3 record and a 4.46 era versus a 19 game winner with a 3.70 ERA. How does life look with those hindsight 20-20 glasses of yours?

]]> By: No Morre Torre http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/comment-page-4/#comment-172980 No Morre Torre Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:49:53 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/#comment-172980 Doreen First off don't put words in my mouth. I never said the Yanks in the postseason was a birthright or more specifically my birthright, but you know what? Yes, I expect this team for all the talent and money spent on it to execute the little things like move baserunners over, drive in men on 3B with Doreen

First off don’t put words in my mouth. I never said the Yanks in the postseason was a birthright or more specifically my birthright, but you know what? Yes, I expect this team for all the talent and money spent on it to execute the little things like move baserunners over, drive in men on 3B with

]]> By: Miller http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/comment-page-4/#comment-172966 Miller Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:36:48 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/#comment-172966 THe joke is on MLB..they could have had NY, LA, CHicago, PHilly instead they have the Red Sox and 3 mini cities. Only inciteful thing youve said all day THe joke is on MLB..they could have had NY, LA, CHicago, PHilly instead they have the Red Sox and 3 mini cities.

Only inciteful thing youve said all day

]]> By: No Morre Torre http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/comment-page-4/#comment-172949 No Morre Torre Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:22:55 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/#comment-172949 B.t.w. what tactical moves did Torre make in the 1996, 1998, 1999, and 2000 World Series which directly won them games? I can name five moves he made which lost postseason series including two World Series: Game 7 2001 World Series: Brought in Mo an inning too early when he should've brought in Mendoza. Game 3 2003 World Series: Brought in Jeff Weaver to hold a tie in extra innings at the away ballpark. Talk about ringing the dinner bell. Game 5 2003 World Series: Started David Wells without being 110% sure Wells was good to go. He had Zimmer, Stottlemyre, and trainer Monahan (who should've been fired after that series) as extra sets of eyes. None of them could test Wells to see if he could pitch. Game 7 2004 A.L.C.S: Starts Kevin Brown then brings in Javier Vasquez. Game 4 2006 A.L.D.S: Bats A-Rod 8th, embarassing A-Rod and all but putting up the white flag of surrender before the absolute final elimination game (Game 5). This year? He starts Wang then Pettitte in Cleveland, not Pettitte then Hughes. It should've been Pettitte/ Hughes/ Wang/ Clemens/ Pettitte & all hands on deck save Clemens in Cleveland Game 5. Wang and Clemens pitch at Yankee Stadium. Hughes pitches in Cleveland away from the pressure of performing in front of the home crowd as who wants to fail in front of them? An opposing crowd is better cuz you expect boos there. Mussina could've been on standby in case Hughes got in trouble. B.t.w. what tactical moves did Torre make in the 1996, 1998, 1999, and 2000 World Series which directly won them games?

I can name five moves he made which lost postseason series including two World Series:

Game 7 2001 World Series: Brought in Mo an inning too early when he should’ve brought in Mendoza.

Game 3 2003 World Series: Brought in Jeff Weaver to hold a tie in extra innings at the away ballpark. Talk about ringing the dinner bell.

Game 5 2003 World Series: Started David Wells without being 110% sure Wells was good to go. He had Zimmer, Stottlemyre, and trainer Monahan (who should’ve been fired after that series) as extra sets of eyes. None of them could test Wells to see if he could pitch.

Game 7 2004 A.L.C.S: Starts Kevin Brown then brings in Javier Vasquez.

Game 4 2006 A.L.D.S: Bats A-Rod 8th, embarassing A-Rod and all but putting up the white flag of surrender before the absolute final elimination game (Game 5).

This year? He starts Wang then Pettitte in Cleveland, not Pettitte then Hughes. It should’ve been Pettitte/ Hughes/ Wang/ Clemens/ Pettitte & all hands on deck save Clemens in Cleveland Game 5. Wang and Clemens pitch at Yankee Stadium. Hughes pitches in Cleveland away from the pressure of performing in front of the home crowd as who wants to fail in front of them? An opposing crowd is better cuz you expect boos there. Mussina could’ve been on standby in case Hughes got in trouble.

]]> By: ron hall http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/comment-page-4/#comment-172942 ron hall Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:19:17 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/#comment-172942 Saucy, you should likely look the work sarcasm up in the dictionary...you don't know what it means. Saucy,

you should likely look the work sarcasm up in the dictionary…you don’t know what it means.

]]> By: Doreen http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/comment-page-4/#comment-172941 Doreen Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:19:16 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/#comment-172941 Catya - Yes, even without considering their really poor start. Catya -

Yes, even without considering their really poor start.

]]> By: ron hall http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/comment-page-4/#comment-172939 ron hall Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:16:49 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/#comment-172939 THe joke is on MLB..they could have had NY, LA, CHicago, PHilly instead they have the Red Sox and 3 mini cities. THe joke is on MLB..they could have had NY, LA, CHicago, PHilly instead they have the Red Sox and 3 mini cities.

]]> By: saucy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/comment-page-4/#comment-172938 saucy Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:16:13 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/#comment-172938 "a CLeveland vs Arizona world series could be the most boring pitchers dual series of all time and would draw about 200 viewers a night." yeah, lets route for boston this ALCS so the WS has more interesting pitching to watch[/sarcasm] dude, you are such a troll, just quit already... “a CLeveland vs Arizona world series could be the most boring pitchers dual series of all time and would draw about 200 viewers a night.”

yeah, lets route for boston this ALCS so the WS has more interesting pitching to watch[/sarcasm]

dude, you are such a troll, just quit already…

]]> By: catya http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/comment-page-4/#comment-172935 catya Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:14:34 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/#comment-172935 Doreen, you forgot to mention ,we were the only team in postseason from last year,consdeing our really bad start. Doreen, you forgot to mention ,we were the only team in postseason from last year,consdeing our really bad start.

]]> By: ron hall http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/comment-page-4/#comment-172932 ron hall Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:13:24 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/10/day-2-on-joe-torre-watch-commences/#comment-172932 Bob, are you saying that (not knowing what you know now) you thought CLeveland had a chance against the Yankees after an 0 for 6 regular season...and you would have rather have been home against the Angles (who seem to always beat the Yanks)? Bob,
are you saying that (not knowing what you know now) you thought CLeveland had a chance against the Yankees after an 0 for 6 regular season…and you would have rather have been home against the Angles (who seem to always beat the Yanks)?

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