Comments on: Shocking day marks end of an era http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/ A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:12:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Bob http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/comment-page-3/#comment-216100 Bob Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:46:59 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/#comment-216100 No effect what so ever. No effect what so ever.

]]> By: rover http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/comment-page-3/#comment-176092 rover Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:06:32 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/#comment-176092 thankyou randy levine, for allowing us the fans, to know and understand that each and every person involved in the tampa meetings steadfastly agreed to the contract offer to joe torre. nobody hesitated and everyone stands by their work. now that you come off as something less than good baseball management. we the fans can take heart in the fact that as ignorant as you appear, you were smart enough to know joe torre. you the brain trust insinuate that mr. torre didn't manage to win. that is absurd. i, we the fans could understand a no raise offer. yes, we could. but to tie his future to incentives, arrogant. try retaining mo,po,arod, in such a manner. the worst part is to believe you could save face doing this, put it on joe. apparently joe just taught all of you something about human nature. im appalled by such behavior. most ot the fans are not idiots, you fooled nobody, but yourselves. if the attempt was to make joe look bad you failed miserably. if you negotiate this way in an ongoing manner, i welcome you to the tampabay yankees. i love the yankees, but i'm told there are openings on the sux fan list. it is a consideration. gentlemen, your methods are dispicable at the best. all you ever needed to do or say is we have informed joe of a change in course. end of story. but then that takes morals, honesty, integrity and the ability to look farther down the road. if arod didn't intend to opt out, you have given him a taste of the future, not a good one. you should have thought about these things, i'm sure you did, but not long or hard enough. it is my guess you are the laughing stock of mlb. you are with me. thankyou randy levine, for allowing us the fans, to know and understand that each and every person involved in the tampa meetings steadfastly agreed to the contract offer to joe torre. nobody hesitated and everyone stands by their work.
now that you come off as something less than good baseball management. we the fans can take heart in the fact that as ignorant as you appear, you were smart enough to know joe torre. you the brain trust insinuate that mr. torre didn’t manage to win. that is absurd. i, we the fans could understand a no raise offer. yes, we could. but to tie his future to incentives, arrogant. try retaining mo,po,arod, in such a manner. the worst part is to believe you could save face doing this, put it on joe. apparently joe just taught all of you something about human nature. im appalled by such behavior. most ot the fans are not idiots, you fooled nobody, but yourselves. if the attempt was to make joe look bad you failed miserably. if you negotiate this way in an ongoing manner, i welcome you to the tampabay yankees. i love the yankees, but i’m told there are openings on the sux fan list. it is a consideration. gentlemen, your methods are dispicable at the best. all you ever needed to do or say is we have informed joe of a change in course. end of story. but then that takes morals, honesty, integrity and the ability to look farther down the road. if arod didn’t intend to opt out, you have given him a taste of the future, not a good one. you should have thought about these things, i’m sure you did, but not long or hard enough. it is my guess you are the laughing stock of mlb. you are with me.

]]> By: Viking Coach http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/comment-page-3/#comment-175736 Viking Coach Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:26:40 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/#comment-175736 How serious a candidate is Bobby Valentine?? That would be interesting How serious a candidate is Bobby Valentine?? That would be interesting

]]> By: Annie Savoy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/comment-page-3/#comment-175531 Annie Savoy Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:43:22 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/#comment-175531 Without Joe Torre as the manager, I expect that Andy Pettitte will really retire, Jorge and Mo will take an offer from another club, ARod will go elsewhere and only Jeter will be left as a Yankee - perhaps not for long. By removing Joe Torre, George Steinbrenner et.al have changed the whole persona of the Yankees - they won't be making the post season for years. As Pete said Paul O'Neil doesn't even want to leave home for an overnight, much less a season - forget him. As for a new manager, now that the new Steinbrenner crew has shown their colors so to speak, most reputable baseball men will turn away from that kind of ownership. In fact, George and Sons have just devalued their business. Without Joe Torre as the manager, I expect that Andy Pettitte will really retire, Jorge and Mo will take an offer from another club, ARod will go elsewhere and only Jeter will be left as a Yankee – perhaps not for long. By removing Joe Torre, George Steinbrenner et.al have changed the whole persona of the Yankees – they won’t be making the post season for years.

As Pete said Paul O’Neil doesn’t even want to leave home for an overnight, much less a season – forget him. As for a new manager, now that the new Steinbrenner crew has shown their colors so to speak, most reputable baseball men will turn away from that kind of ownership.

In fact, George and Sons have just devalued their business.

]]> By: Wolf In Pinstripes http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/comment-page-3/#comment-175464 Wolf In Pinstripes Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:04:42 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/#comment-175464 I'm one person that is not happy to see Joe go. Yes, I know he was not going to manage forever and I'm not disputing that some changes could benefit the Yankees. Here's one way to be able to think positively about the future that involves Joe Torre, for those of us that weren't entirely ready to see him go: I saw somebody mention a few days ago that when Torre was hired, the general reaction among Yankee fans was anything but favorable. When I read that post I realized that I was among those people that were thinking "What, are you _kidding_ me???" when the hiring was made. I had watched Joe manage other teams and end up with a mediocre record. But something very cool happened - and that was that Torre managed to be a perfect fit for the job somehow and a manger that I didn't think was a good choice ended up leading us through our first true dynasty in 50 years. Since then Joe Torre has become one of my favorite people that I admire. There's nothing to say that the next manager that comes in can't surprise us by dismantling our expectations of him. The words of caution of course are that the Torre years have shown us that it's not just about a amanager, or one player, or a decent GM. There needs to be a chemistry or dynamic in which all of the pieces fit. This is the task ahead for the Yankees as an organiztion. They need to find a manager that can be the glue of the team like Torre was and still be a good field general for the club. They need to let the GM (whether it is Brian Cashman or someone else eventually) do their job without interference from Steinbrenner's minions. The players need to hunger again. And our needs as a club need to be viewed realistically and addressed with vigor. I’m one person that is not happy to see Joe go. Yes, I know he was not going to manage forever and I’m not disputing that some changes could benefit the Yankees.

Here’s one way to be able to think positively about the future that involves Joe Torre, for those of us that weren’t entirely ready to see him go:

I saw somebody mention a few days ago that when Torre was hired, the general reaction among Yankee fans was anything but favorable. When I read that post I realized that I was among those people that were thinking “What, are you _kidding_ me???” when the hiring was made. I had watched Joe manage other teams and end up with a mediocre record. But something very cool happened – and that was that Torre managed to be a perfect fit for the job somehow and a manger that I didn’t think was a good choice ended up leading us through our first true dynasty in 50 years. Since then Joe Torre has become one of my favorite people that I admire. There’s nothing to say that the next manager that comes in can’t surprise us by dismantling our expectations of him.

The words of caution of course are that the Torre years have shown us that it’s not just about a amanager, or one player, or a decent GM. There needs to be a chemistry or dynamic in which all of the pieces fit. This is the task ahead for the Yankees as an organiztion. They need to find a manager that can be the glue of the team like Torre was and still be a good field general for the club. They need to let the GM (whether it is Brian Cashman or someone else eventually) do their job without interference from Steinbrenner’s minions. The players need to hunger again. And our needs as a club need to be viewed realistically and addressed with vigor.

]]> By: the simple approach http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/comment-page-3/#comment-175451 the simple approach Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:56:46 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/#comment-175451 Buy out Giambi's contract and in the process give Joe Girardi his old No. 25 back. Girardi won't get Torre money so that takes some of the sting out of Giambi's buyout. Buy out Giambi’s contract and in the process give Joe Girardi his old No. 25 back. Girardi won’t get Torre money so that takes some of the sting out of Giambi’s buyout.

]]> By: Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, and David Ortiz ate my hamburger (aka Joe) http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/comment-page-3/#comment-175440 Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, and David Ortiz ate my hamburger (aka Joe) Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:51:47 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/#comment-175440 Hey, they forced Casey out and they won the WS the next year! Hey, they forced Casey out and they won the WS the next year!

]]> By: Lee http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/comment-page-3/#comment-175435 Lee Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:49:44 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/#comment-175435 On September 24, 1934 Ruth played his final game as a Yankee, although it was not billed as such. He did know it would be his last. The Yankees obeyed baseball law by sending him a registered letter containing their 1935 offer prior to January 1 of that year. The contract called for one dollar. On February 5, 1935, after spending 15 years in pinstripes and leading the Yankees to seven pennants and four World Series championships, Ruth was released at age 39. http://www.astrosdaily.com/column/10708120726fan.html Seems like old times! On September 24, 1934 Ruth played his final game as a Yankee, although it was not billed as such. He did know it would be his last. The Yankees obeyed baseball law by sending him a registered letter containing their 1935 offer prior to January 1 of that year.

The contract called for one dollar.

On February 5, 1935, after spending 15 years in pinstripes and leading the Yankees to seven pennants and four World Series championships, Ruth was released at age 39.

http://www.astrosdaily.com/col.....26fan.html

Seems like old times!

]]> By: Mr. Reality http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/comment-page-3/#comment-175434 Mr. Reality Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:49:40 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/#comment-175434 The age old theory rides again. Every manager is hired to be fired or forced out. The age old theory rides again. Every manager is hired to be fired or forced out.

]]> By: Andrea http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/comment-page-3/#comment-175425 Andrea Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:45:48 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/18/shocking-day-marks-end-of-an-era/#comment-175425 Thank you, Pete. I've been trying to say that about Paul O'Neill forever. Thank you, Pete. I’ve been trying to say that about Paul O’Neill forever.

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