Comments on: The waiting is the the hardest part http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/ A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:48:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Scud Missile http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/comment-page-1/#comment-181859 Scud Missile Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:37:46 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/#comment-181859 "Maybe they can ship him back to Oakland by offering to pay 75% of his salary plus a six month supply of NYC Pizza". You cracked me up LathamJoe. Too bad money is an object for us now. I would prefer to pick up Abreu's option AND sign Rowand. Damon - DH Abreu - LF Rowand - CF Melkman - RF Matsui/Duncan platoon at 1B I would love to have: Damon or Matsui(One of them traded)/Duncan - DH Abreu - LF Rowand - CF Melkman - RF Jeter - 1B Cano - 2B ARod - SS Lowell or Crede - 3B Some scrub who plays decent D and actually calls a good game - C Giambi - MLB's most expensive pinch hitter “Maybe they can ship him back to Oakland by offering to pay 75% of his salary plus a six month supply of NYC Pizza”. You cracked me up LathamJoe.

Too bad money is an object for us now. I would prefer to pick up Abreu’s option AND sign Rowand.

Damon – DH
Abreu – LF
Rowand – CF
Melkman – RF
Matsui/Duncan platoon at 1B

I would love to have:

Damon or Matsui(One of them traded)/Duncan – DH
Abreu – LF
Rowand – CF
Melkman – RF
Jeter – 1B
Cano – 2B
ARod – SS
Lowell or Crede – 3B
Some scrub who plays decent D and actually calls a good game – C

Giambi – MLB’s most expensive pinch hitter

]]> By: hmmm http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/comment-page-1/#comment-181708 hmmm Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:48:48 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/#comment-181708 the Yankees have already exercised Abreu's option. the Yankees have already exercised Abreu’s option.

]]> By: LathamJoe http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/comment-page-1/#comment-181676 LathamJoe Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:16:12 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/#comment-181676 Right now (in my opinion) Giambi is the odd man out. Matsui is not going to move to 1B. He may be 33 years old with a wonderful work ethic but he is limited athletically in order to make a successful transition to the infield. He should be the DH in 2008 with occasional spot starts in LF. $26 Mil contract or not, the Giambino may be a glorified pinch hitter in 2008. Unless he can somehow return to the production of 2005 and 2006 (and at Age 38 with knee,wrist,foot and weight issues - that's unlikely!) there's no place in the lineup for him. Maybe they can ship him back to Oakland by offering to pay 75% of his salary plus a six month supply of NYC Pizza. Even if ARod is signed, the Yankees still need some offensive hitting from the right side. I believe signing Aaron Rowand instead of exercising its option on Abreu would be a wise move. Abreu is a nice presence in the dugout, but seems to be a "soft" player, especially in pressure games. He's overrated defensively and is not the "great" two-strike hitter that some of these broadcasters claim him to be. Defensively, an outfield of Damon, Rowand and Melky would be the best since the mid-90s. Right now (in my opinion) Giambi is the odd man out. Matsui is not going to move to 1B. He may be 33 years old with a wonderful work ethic but he is limited athletically in order to make a successful transition to the infield.
He should be the DH in 2008 with occasional spot starts in LF.

$26 Mil contract or not, the Giambino may be a glorified pinch hitter in 2008. Unless he can somehow return to the production of 2005 and 2006 (and at Age 38 with knee,wrist,foot and weight issues – that’s unlikely!) there’s no place in the lineup for him. Maybe they can ship him back to Oakland by offering to pay 75% of his salary plus a six month supply of NYC Pizza.

Even if ARod is signed, the Yankees still need some offensive hitting from the right side. I believe signing Aaron Rowand instead of exercising its option on Abreu would be a wise move. Abreu is a nice presence in the dugout, but seems to be a “soft” player, especially in pressure games. He’s overrated defensively and is not the “great” two-strike hitter that some of these broadcasters claim him to be.
Defensively, an outfield of Damon, Rowand and Melky would be the best since the mid-90s.

]]> By: Klev http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/comment-page-1/#comment-181671 Klev Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:11:32 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/#comment-181671 Pete/raymagnetic: To paraphrase the First President Clinton, "it depends on what the meaning of [power] is." Clearly Cash has less of it than he had before H2 came on the scene, and Randy Levine grabbed his 15 minutes, but Cash's getting what he wanted -- the chance to make the baseball decisions, with approval from the Four Boss-men of the Apocalypse (Big G, Hal, Hank and Randy). I vote for Donny B. Ask Pena to be bench coach; Bowa to stay at third; Eiland to handle the young arms. Resign Mo and Jorge. Keep A-Rod for 5 additional years at $32/mil per; line up a bunch of new arms for the pen; and trade Matsui or Damon if you can (assume Matsui does bring in a lot of ad revenue from Japan, if not, let him go too). Okay Pete and Ray, now kiss, makeup and make your charitable contris…. Pete/raymagnetic: To paraphrase the First President Clinton, “it depends on what the meaning of [power] is.”

Clearly Cash has less of it than he had before H2 came on the scene, and Randy Levine grabbed his 15 minutes, but Cash’s getting what he wanted — the chance to make the baseball decisions, with approval from the Four Boss-men of the Apocalypse (Big G, Hal, Hank and Randy).

I vote for Donny B. Ask Pena to be bench coach; Bowa to stay at third; Eiland to handle the young arms. Resign Mo and Jorge. Keep A-Rod for 5 additional years at $32/mil per; line up a bunch of new arms for the pen; and trade Matsui or Damon if you can (assume Matsui does bring in a lot of ad revenue from Japan, if not, let him go too).

Okay Pete and Ray, now kiss, makeup and make your charitable contris….

]]> By: asburyboss http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/comment-page-1/#comment-181670 asburyboss Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:10:35 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/#comment-181670 move Matsui...Damon is "untradeable"??? that is crazy. First off, why would you want to, secondly, there would be a list as long as your arm of teams wanting him. move Matsui…Damon is “untradeable”??? that is crazy. First off, why would you want to, secondly, there would be a list as long as your arm of teams wanting him.

]]> By: hmmm http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/comment-page-1/#comment-181669 hmmm Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:09:47 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/#comment-181669 "Newsflash: 2008 Yankees OF: Damon (LF, $13M, $26M through 2009, untradeable), Cabrera (CF), Abreu (RF, $16M) DH: Giambi ($26M total for 2008, untradeable). THEREFORE, NO ROOM FOR MATSUI IN LF. Damon, Giambi, and Abreu are not getting " did you ever think that a healthy Damon will play CF next year and Melky will resume his role as 4th OFer? not sure that will happen, but you don't know what happen either. it certainly COULD happen. it's not like Melky hit well enough in 2007 to say he has won the starting CF job already for 2008. “Newsflash: 2008 Yankees OF: Damon (LF, $13M, $26M through 2009, untradeable), Cabrera (CF), Abreu (RF, $16M) DH: Giambi ($26M total for 2008, untradeable).

THEREFORE, NO ROOM FOR MATSUI IN LF. Damon, Giambi, and Abreu are not getting ”

did you ever think that a healthy Damon will play CF next year and Melky will resume his role as 4th OFer?

not sure that will happen, but you don’t know what happen either.

it certainly COULD happen. it’s not like Melky hit well enough in 2007 to say he has won the starting CF job already for 2008.

]]> By: Matsui must move to 1B http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/comment-page-1/#comment-181641 Matsui must move to 1B Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:35:29 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/#comment-181641 Yeah SJ44, the Yanks are platooning an old backup 1B who can't hit for average, power, or OBP, or drive in runs (Mientkiwiecz) with a career minor-leagueer bad backup 1B with no plate discipline whatsoever who strikes out a ton and just hits homeruns (Duncan.) Thank heavens you're not the Yankees g.m. or manager. Your 2008 Yankees LF, CF, 1B, and #4 OF: Matsui stinking it up in LF Damon stinking it up in CF relative to Cabrera who's defense there destroys his Mientkiewicz/Duncan 1B platoon (the worst of the A.L. East 1B) Cabrera wasted as a super #4 OF My 2008 Yankees: Damon LF > Matsui there Cabrera CF buries Damon there Matsui 1B w/ Mientkiewicz backing him up Duncan backing up in LF and RF, playing a little 1B, spot DHing, pinch-hitting, and being the insurance RF and DH if Abreu or Giambi fall to injury YOU LOSE. Yeah SJ44, the Yanks are platooning an old backup 1B who can’t hit for average, power, or OBP, or drive in runs (Mientkiwiecz) with a career minor-leagueer bad backup 1B with no plate discipline whatsoever who strikes out a ton and just hits homeruns (Duncan.) Thank heavens you’re not the Yankees g.m. or manager.

Your 2008 Yankees LF, CF, 1B, and #4 OF:

Matsui stinking it up in LF
Damon stinking it up in CF relative to Cabrera who’s defense there destroys his
Mientkiewicz/Duncan 1B platoon (the worst of the A.L. East 1B)
Cabrera wasted as a super #4 OF

My 2008 Yankees:

Damon LF > Matsui there
Cabrera CF buries Damon there
Matsui 1B w/ Mientkiewicz backing him up
Duncan backing up in LF and RF, playing a little 1B, spot DHing, pinch-hitting, and being the insurance RF and DH if
Abreu or Giambi fall to injury

YOU LOSE.

]]> By: Kevin M. http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/comment-page-1/#comment-181635 Kevin M. Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:31:43 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/#comment-181635 Perhaps Pete also forgets that he chewed out Steinbrenner for not holding a press conference after that Ian O'Connor interview. Quite a few people called Pete out for the utter lack of class in that statement based on Steinbrenner's obvious mental and phsysical failings. Now that you've acknolwedged Steinbrenner's problems Pete perhaps you owe the man and his family an apology. Perhaps Pete also forgets that he chewed out Steinbrenner for not holding a press conference after that Ian O’Connor interview. Quite a few people called Pete out for the utter lack of class in that statement based on Steinbrenner’s obvious mental and phsysical failings.

Now that you’ve acknolwedged Steinbrenner’s problems Pete perhaps you owe the man and his family an apology.

]]> By: Matsui must move to 1B http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/comment-page-1/#comment-181630 Matsui must move to 1B Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:27:41 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/#comment-181630 Excuse me SJ44, who are you talking about? You live on this board or something? Who died and left you the all-knowing authority on the Yankees? Last I checked you don't work for the Yankees front office, serve as Matsui's agent, or know Matsui personally, and I never said I did any of that. Oh yeah, since when does Matsui decide where he's playing when the Yankees are his employer? If the Yanks want him to move to 1B, he will move to 1B. If he doesn't like it, too bad, OF and DH are filled up. Hence they may have to trade him if he can't or won't play 1B a la Sheffield. Newsflash: 2008 Yankees OF: Damon (LF, $13M, $26M through 2009, untradeable), Cabrera (CF), Abreu (RF, $16M) DH: Giambi ($26M total for 2008, untradeable). THEREFORE, NO ROOM FOR MATSUI IN LF. Damon, Giambi, and Abreu are not getting Excuse me SJ44, who are you talking about? You live on this board or something? Who died and left you the all-knowing authority on the Yankees? Last I checked you don’t work for the Yankees front office, serve as Matsui’s agent, or know Matsui personally, and I never said I did any of that. Oh yeah, since when does Matsui decide where he’s playing when the Yankees are his employer? If the Yanks want him to move to 1B, he will move to 1B. If he doesn’t like it, too bad, OF and DH are filled up. Hence they may have to trade him if he can’t or won’t play 1B a la Sheffield.

Newsflash: 2008 Yankees OF: Damon (LF, $13M, $26M through 2009, untradeable), Cabrera (CF), Abreu (RF, $16M) DH: Giambi ($26M total for 2008, untradeable).

THEREFORE, NO ROOM FOR MATSUI IN LF. Damon, Giambi, and Abreu are not getting

]]> By: raymagnetic http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/comment-page-1/#comment-181626 raymagnetic Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:23:06 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/10/26/the-waiting-is-the-the-hardest-part/#comment-181626 Pete: This is actually what you wrote - "The power over baseball operations Brian Cashman gained had started to slip away. Hank Steinbrenner “insists� that Joba Chamberlain be a starter. Thanks for the input, Branch Rickey. Can’t wait to see what he insists happens next. The Yankees have been a classy bunch a while now. For all of the antics in Tampa, at least Cash and Torre acted like professionals and it rubbed off on the players. Now Torre has been pushed out and Cashman marginalized." Now this is what the definition of marginalize is from this website: mar·gin·al·ize· (mär′jə nə līz′) transitive verb to exclude or ignore, esp. by relegating to the outer edge of a group or by diverting the public's attention to something else - CUT Now to me, to say someone has been marginalized means they don't have any power in the organization, I could be wrong however if you interpret it to mean something different. Ray Pete:

This is actually what you wrote –

“The power over baseball operations Brian Cashman gained had started to slip away. Hank Steinbrenner “insistsâ€? that Joba Chamberlain be a starter. Thanks for the input, Branch Rickey. Can’t wait to see what he insists happens next.

The Yankees have been a classy bunch a while now. For all of the antics in Tampa, at least Cash and Torre acted like professionals and it rubbed off on the players. Now Torre has been pushed out and Cashman marginalized.”

Now this is what the definition of marginalize is from this website:

mar·gin·al·ize· (mär′jə nə līz′)

transitive verb

to exclude or ignore, esp. by relegating to the outer edge of a group or by diverting the public’s attention to something else – CUT

Now to me, to say someone has been marginalized means they don’t have any power in the organization, I could be wrong however if you interpret it to mean something different.

Ray

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