Staff changes on the way as well
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Oct 29, 2007 
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It will be interesting to see how having Joe Girardi as manager will change the look of the coaching staff.
Obviously Don Mattingly is out. This has to be a bitter day for him. He returned to the team as a coach with the specific goal of becoming manager and never got a chance. He did nothing wrong. Tough way for him to leave the organization
Larry Bowa will probably take the position in Seattle now. Ron Guidry wasn’t coming back regardless.
Tony Pena could be the bench coach or third base coach. Look for the Yankees to retain Kevin Long. They also are likely to promote Rob Thomson, a coaching assistant last season, to a field position.
Girardi had Gary Tuck on his staff in Florida. Tuck was with the Yankees for nine seasons as a catching instructor. Perhaps he will return.
Meanwhile, consider this:
The last time the Yankees hired a manager it was a broadcaster who had a losing record as a manager in the National League. He was a former catcher who was friends with Don Zimmer.
That was Joe Torre. You can say the same about Joe Girardi.
What are the chances we get Leo Mazzone as pitching coach?
I could see Bowa staying – with A-Rod now leaving and your suggestion of Cano playing third, the Yanks could use someone to help Robbie make the transition.
And since Bowa’s done so well with Cano already, the move makes sense.
But obviously, it’s all up to Girardi.
I love Donnie. He was my favorite growing up, so I hate to see him go out like this as well, but I think Girardi was the best choice.
I’d like to concur in asking if there’s any interest from the Yankees to Mazzone and vice versa?
Mattingly did not deserve to the the manager.
If he was truly serious about becoming a manager, he would have told the Yankees that he wanted to manage in the minor leagues, but he didn’t probably because it’s not a comfortable way to live.
But the idea that he should have been handed the managerial job of the most prestigious franchise in professional sports without any experience as a manager is beyond absurd.
Looks like mattingly might be heading to LA with Torre. And who knows, if Torre gets the job in LA, Arod, Mo, and Posada might follow as well. Torre could even steal Kevin Long from the Yanks, and Bowa could change his mind about Seattle and head for LA as well.
I think Bow as good for them. Too ad about Donnie. I think they made the right choice in Giradi. I think He’ll bring some “positive-discomfort” to a team that I believe was entirely too comfortable in Joe T’s last years at the helm. I think Donnie would have provided the same atmosphere. This will be good for the younger players……….Cano in particular.
Posada won’t go out to LA. I’m sure he wants to be close to PR and he woudln’t be living out there. And why is everyone under the assumption that all these guys are tied to Joe. Maybe it is about time that got out from underneith him.
I’m happy with Joe G. as manager
But I am so sad for Donnie. My heart is breaking a little bit.
Posada wont go because they already have an all star catcher half his age.
What is Posada going to do in LA with Russell Martin behind the plate?
Get real.
I really don’t want Mazzone.
I’d rather the Yanks go with Eiland and Nardi Contreras as pitching and bullpen coach.
Keep Kevin Long. Try to keep Pena or Bowa. We probably won’t have both and let Girardi have some kind of say so he’s not looking over his shoulder all the time.
I too feel sorry for Mattingly, he was the sentimental favorite.
But I’m looking forward to seeing Girardi on the top step calling a squeeze bunt.
I don’t think the Yankees will trade for anybody to play third base. They’ll probably move Cano or Jeter over there. Insert the attorney general at second or shortstop. Juan Miranda and Shelley Duncan might share first base duties. Trade Damon and Giambi. Matsui will probably serve as the DH. They might even Barry Bonds.
Besides the fact that the Dodgers would probably not be able to afford all three players, they have no need for two of them. Russell Martin is one of the best offensive catchers in baseball and he’s very young. As for Rivera, the Dodgers have probably the best and most underrated closer in the NL in Takashi Saito.
Why is Pete assuming Bowa will leave to Seattle? Will the Yankees not offer him a job? Does he want to leave?
Pete,
I could see Gary Tuck becoming the bench coach. He and Girardi are very close and Tuck and Posada are very close.
Also, if there are any percieved differences between Posada and Girardi (not sure that’s the case. But, that’s the rumor) Tuck is the perfect go between guy.
I definitely see Rob Thomson on the staff. He’s too valuable to the organization and I think they have wanted to get him a field position for some time.
Agreed on Kevin Long. I think he will back.
I think Pena ends up as the third base coach.
Pitching and bullpen coach? Dave Eiland will fill one of those positions, IMO. Just don’t know which one.
hmmm and sj44-
catch you later when the dust settles. hard to keep up with everything with so much happening.
i like girardi a lot so i’m not unhappy with him getting the job. at the same time arod ‘s numbers during the regular season will be hard to replace.
next up is where is posada going to be ? what’s the window for exclusive negotiation?
signing posada is not going to be a slam dunk.
his agent will now probably be asking 4 years at 60 million. that may not what he gets ,but that’s where it’ll start. i do not want to hear hank saying something like,”our offer is 3 years at 13 million a year. it’s either that or goodbye”.
i’m not big on this “or goodbye” phrase.
this kind of ultimatum is not conducive for completing deals with players who have options.
Pete:
Do you REALLY think that Zimmer will return? Nice scoop!
Jeter is not moving to third base. That will never happen.
You have a better chance to see Joe Girardi play third base for the Yankees next year than Derek Jeter.
Rumor has it Bowa and Girardi either don’t get along or Girardi envisions someone else as the 3rd Base coach.
The offseason is a public relations disaster.
Really wish we can keep Mattingly in the organization, but its understandable if he bolts back to Indian for good or to LA. Joe Giradi is the smart and non-risky of the choices out there. Smart, because he has the approach that a lot of managers are taking to today’s game, with a great deal of evaluation and analytical breakdown. Non-risky, becuase if the team is to get off of a sluggish start and never get going, the idea of having to fire Mattingly would make me feel ill.
ya right. jeter to third is just a pipe dream for now …. if jeter wasn’t moving to 3rd for arod what makes you think he will for anyone else ? renteria? tejada ? please. now cano could be interesting
What is this love affair for Girardi all about? He had ONE frickin season with a team that nothing was expected. Then he was promptly out of a job. THAT is what gives him the credentials for being the manager for the Yankees?
Big deal, one year as opposed to no years as manager.
When the Yankees threw away Torre, it signaled a number of things. It reminds me of the 80′s when everywhere you looked the team was folding. How is that any different from now?
No A-Rod, new manager who is, despite all the accolades, untested, Mo – who knows, Jorge – who knows, all the hopes being pinned to untested arms.
Bowa probably gone, Girardi hiring whomever he wants as coaches, and everyone is talking like the WS is won. Yeah, right. What will be said when the Yankees finish 3rd, behind the Red Sox and Blue Jays?
Girardi isn’t going to be good for this team. That is if you can even call the Yankees a team.
I posted this on another thread but Gary Tuck is with the red Sox. Will they allow the Yanks to talk to him,not sure what his contract status is with them.
i was listening to MLB this Morning on XM and Buck martinez went on and on about Gary Tuck and what he has meant to the Sox bullpen (he is their bullpen coach) and how much the players h ave credited him for getting them prepared. he said that one of the things he does is keep all of the scouting stuff in the bullpen and tells the pitcher all of the tendencies etc and has them throw in their warmup as if they were putching an at bat to whom they think they will be facing when the come in.
What I don’t get about the arguement that Mattingly doesn’t have enough experience to manage is that he has exactly the same amount of experience as Girardi did prior to getting the Florida job – zero. In truth, Mattingly has more, as he has 3 years as hitting instructor and 1 year as Bench Coach, while Girardi had 1 year as Bench Coach. Girardi won Manager of the Year in Florida, though he did get fired because he couldn’t get along with a very demanding and meddling owner (geez, where have I seen one of those before?). It will be an interesting arrangement, for sure.
I am not saying that Girardi isn’t a good choice – he certainly is – but I wouldn’t be so sure this will be 100% successful either. We shall see.
Girardi is Buck Showalter Lite.A control freak.
Perfect situation and solution for the Yankees.
Joe Crede will cost peanuts and is arguably the best defensive 3b in the AL. He made 4.9 million last year. He had back surgery in June and should be fine for Spring Training. Yanks need RH pop, which he can provide. Will hit b/w 20 and 30 hr and hit b/w 260 and 300, drive in 75-95 rbi. What else do we need out of that spot?
Crede=Brosius Redux
I wanted Mattingly with Bowa as bench coach because of his strategic sense and fire in the belly. Now that it is JG, I think that Bowa should stay as 3rd base coach and infielder instructor ( he was great at both) and Pena should be the bench coach. JG has the strategic sense that JT was lacking. Pena will help on the player relations/personality front (in addition to having a good baseball mind). If JG needs anything, it is someone to make him a little warmer and fuzzier. I said a little.
>> What is this love affair for Girardi all about? He had ONE frickin season with a team that nothing was expected. Then he was promptly out of a job. THAT is what gives him the credentials for being the manager for the Yankees? >>
Girardi had run-ins with the Marlins’ ownership, not because he didn’t do a good job. Big difference.
Have you ever heard a YES broadcast with Girardi, by the way? The guy knows what he’s talking about. Mattingly doesn’t come off *nearly* as cerebral or as knowledgeable about what it takes to manage ballgames.
Just because Mattingly “really really” wants the job is no basis for hiring him.
Why is it we assume that the difference between Mattingly and Girardi came down to experience. based on what I have heard,Girardi is so prepared and perhaps he came into the interview with his charts and books and perhaps articulated very specifical;ly what he thought the team needed, what was wrong, what his vision is and did it better than Mattingly. I think that this would impress the baseball people a lot.
Ian, how well did Randy Johnson’s back surgery work out?
I wonder how Girardi will handle the missives from Tampa?
i’m not sad because a-rod is leaving the team, i think this is the begining of a new era for the yankees, i believe things are going to change for good cuase this team needs to breath new air, needs to be turned into a real “team” like the dynsaty of late 90′s, a team with grity players like o’neal, brossious, williams, boggs….. i think that a’rod will sorry for this because players like hughes, chamberlain, cano, cabrera, wang are going to rebuild the dynasty joined with veterans. thing s are going to change and all of this roaring of a monster that has been sleeping and now is awaking to claim his throne
Well change isn’t always a bad thing. Let’s see who Joe wants to bring in. By the way, Bob Michaels please take a nice walk in traffic please.
Will Girardi tell the Senile Yankee Boss to shut up? Will he last the year?
How old was Unit when he had it?
Crede will be 30 in april. Does anyone remember Brosius’ back problems? Plus remember there are no other options. I mean we could trade for Chavez but hes even more injury prone and hes left handed. Big difference between a 45 year old 6’10″ freak pitcher and a 29 year old 3b. Plus whats the most it costs us?
3 years 18 million? thats what farnsworth makes.
October 29th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
Another option is to get Crede from chicago. They already have Fields at that position and he would come cheap(after his back problems). We might be able to catch lightning in a bottle. Plus hes a right handed bat.
Mentioned it on the last thread. Totally for it!
Who said that Jeter hated Girardi? Even if he did, he hates A-Rod as well yet managed to play with the jerk for 4 years!!! If Girardi wants to win above all else, Jeter will be on board. That’s all Jeter cares about – winning. That is why he tolerated A-Phony. He thought that he could help the team win. He was wrong. Oh, well. Time to turn the page.
By the way, any guesses as to what time Jeter’s “Thank God He’s Gone” party starts tonight? I’m guessing 9pm EST.
Remember that Crede is a free agent.
Just because Giradi didnt get along with the bos in FL does that mean he won’t succeed here” Nope.
I’m sure Girardi learned from his experiecne in FL and knows the new situation here. He’ll adjust his style to work with the Yankess brass.
Crede is not 40 like the big unit. if they brought crede in it would be a short deal and he can put up brosius type #’s for sure. then they will only score 70 less runs then this yr. which is not much since they lead the league by about 70 runs over the tigers. the yanks can add other pieces and develop more of a TEAM…
TEAM, remember that word….
Will the Yankees win 81 games in 08?
The powerhouse Yankee team of 07 will suffer with a severe outage.But wait the YoungBrenners say have patience, until we we sell the team to CABLEVISION and JAMES DOLAN.
I really think the Yankees need to keep Larry Bowa. First of all, the guy is a fantastic 3B coach. Second and more importantly, I think it would be good for Melky and Cano not to lose Torre, A-Fraud and Bowa all at once.
Actually Pete I may be wrong and if so I apologize, but from what I read Torre and Zimmer didn’t really know each other. Apparently someone recommended Zimmer to Torre, and Torre called Zimmer out of the blue and asked him to be his coach. It wasn’t until afterwards they became close friends.
why not bring edgar renteria to play third or second and place cano at third, he’s a good fielder, and he’s a clutch hitter, and he hates boston he could fit in very well in this team
The Yankees are in a lot of trouble. Their entire roster of position players is aging and their produciton is plummeting. And their best young position players prospects are few and undeveloped.
Damon, Giambi, Matsui, Abreu all have regressed.
A-Rod, along with Jeter, was the bridge to link the youth movement to the current roster of veterans and to keep the Yankees’ competitive while their young pitching germinated.
Anyone who thinks the Yankees are playoff team without A-Rod’s production is deluding himself.
Worse, no combination of free-agent 1B and 3Bs can equal his offensive production.
And trading for a good 3B will constrain the Yankees to relinquish a considerable number of their pitching prospects.
A great 3B– a great hitting 3B– that is, like Miguel Cabrera would cost a price I sincerely doubt the Yankees would pay.
Don’t count on the Yankees making the playoff in ’08.
Hank Steinbrenner’s recent assertion that the Yankees are in transition became self-fulfilling prophecy. Nice work, Henry. Another idiot son to match Dubya and Dolan.
According to Donnies own words he spent 3 years in the cages, didn’t pay attention to the game.
ALso first job in the Marlins is a whole lot different than the first job with the Yankees.
“Remember that Crede is a free agent”
Even more of a reason to get him. Doesnt cost us anything but money.
Crede is NOT a free-agent until ’09
The YES NETWORK will decline in value, one reason why the YOUNGBRENNERS will sell the team.
whoa -
They were willing to give both Randolph and Girardi the job before either had experience.
I don’t think Girardi is a good fit for the team either. Not with his former teammates and not when he wasn’t even a leader on that team. When you think 1996-2000, who thinks they were led by Joe Girardi?
Maybe when they finish third they’ll can Girardi after one year. I don’t doubt that he could be a decent manager. But not for this team – he is Buck-lite.
BRING EDGAR RENTERIA HE HATES BOSTON AND IS NOT A MERCENARY AND IS A GOLDEN GLOVE
Alex and BORASS had an inkiling that the Yankees are headed in the wrong direction
Is Crede a free agent?
I was wrong about Crede, he is still arbitration elgible. White Sox could non-tender him and then we can get him for nothing. Even if they offer arbitration it shouldnt cost us more than a b- prospect.
Bob Michaels,
Are you in a creative writing class right now and texing from your phone?
You are spewing more nonsense than I do.
Poor Mattingly =\
I hope he isn’t to bitter..
The media in New York unfairly mistreated Alex`s wife, just look at the NY Post with a picture of ARod walking with a Blonde in Toronto.
I love all these made up rumors that so and so don’t get along with Girardi. Bowa hates Girardi, Posada hates Girardi, Arod hates Girardi, blah blah blah. Please until I hear that player or person come out and admit it, then its just a bunch of garage. Girardi seems to be well respected around the game and was well liked when he played. Now all of a sudden he’s the most hated man in baseball, sorry I don’t see it.
One more thing thats amazing about arod leaving is that we get at least 1 draft pick from whatever team signs him.
Sell the franchise?
Give me a break. This team is going to be fine. I seriously doubt abreu and damon will show up in bad shape like last year. Think of the continued development of Cano and Melk and we’re fine. We need another right handed bat.
How good was 900+ runs for us this year?
It is about the pitching and we all know it.
Ian-
Do we? I hadn’t heard that, but thats great. Ill take draft picks all day.
Joe Crede could be non-tendered this winter.
Donnie Baseball and Yanks part company per agents statement.
Ian-
Do we? I hadn’t heard that but thats great. I’ll take draft picks all day.
Bob Michaels
October 29th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
The media in New York unfairly mistreated Alex`s wife, just look at the NY Post with a picture of ARod walking with a Blonde in Toronto.
You are right… and cheating on your wife with a stripper is completely moral. I mean if it is good enough for Tony Soprano, it should be good enough for Arod…. Shame on the NY press.
“The Yankees are in a lot of trouble. Their entire roster of position players is aging and their produciton is plummeting. And their best young position players prospects are few and undeveloped.
Damon, Giambi, Matsui, Abreu all have regressed. ”
Ugh please go play in traffic. PITCHING WINS!!! And if the young guys develop as they should the yankee will always be competitive. Giambi is an afterthought on this team so stop throwing his name out. Abreu may be getting older, but his numbers last year sure looked pretty standard, no?
Damon got off to a terrible start and while he can’t play center anymore, is an adaquete leftfielder and his second half numbers were great. Jeter will get healthy and be his usual self, Melky will get better, cano is only going to get better. Matsui is definitely declining, but he’s a proud man, he’ll do whatever he can to stay productive and help the team. Just a few nice signings here and there and the yankees will be more than fine. God relax will you please.
The Yankees are, “in a lot of trouble” for next season now?
Why not wait until the moves are made in the off-season, see the team what the team looks like in spring training, then determine whether or not the team is going to be “in a lot of trouble” in 2008?
I seriously doubt the Yankees aren’t going to make any moves in the off-season.
To predict the doom of 2008 6 months before Opening Day is just silly.
Andy Pettitte may look to the The Dodgers? They may become the Yankees west.
I think Cashman has to see what Joe Crede and Eric Chavez would cost (both coming off injuries) and whoever costs less talent wise should be the next Yankee 3b. They’re both the same age (Cahvez turns 30 in Dec), both coming off back surgery. If we’re gonna take one of those guys, let’s take the lowest risk/give up the least to get him.
Personally, I’m a Chavez fan. If you look at his numbers, when healthy he’s good for 27 HR’s and 100 RBI’s and plays a solid 3b with the glove. He’s also a bit of a team leader on the A’s and a solid citizen. That’s the kind of veteran we need.
I think Crede will cost less though and at least he’s RH.
I hope Boras didn’t talk A-Rod right out of his pinstripes, convincing him that the Yankees would deal with him even if he opts out…
For all those thinking Pettitte will bolt from NY now remember Girardi actually served as Pettitte’s personal catcher when he was with the Yankees. I would have to think that Girardi will give him a call and soon to try to convince him to stay.
Mo and Posada will stay as long as the Yanks offer the most money which I believe they undoubtedly will do. With a better pitching staff and at least a league average third basemen I see no reason why the Yankees can’t make the playoffs next year.
Bob Michaels is just trying to bait people, StandingO’Neill. Just ignore him
I like the Crede idea, but he is not a free agent. He’s still arb eligible and will only be a FA if the Sox decline.
I read something recently that the White Sox were going to offer arbitration to Crede, but with their logjam at third, it seems possible that he could be available.
Actually Ray wasn’t Leyritz Pettitte personal catcher? At least that was the case in ’96.
Pepper Brooks i love my Yankees, but i keep hearing Frank Sinatra and that old refrain, The end is near, but i did it MY Way.
I wasn’t responding to Bob E-Roc. In fact I have been ignoring him.
I’m pretty happy. With all the dough Cash and co are saving with the departure of The Rod, Torre and Rocket, they’re well positioned to re-sign Mo and Jorge. Plus, they could afford a different 3rd baseman every day if they wanted!
I believe Donnie was the heir apparent when Joe G went to the Marlins. But since he didn’t stay there, I believe having him helm the team (a much younger team than last spring) is a really good choice. He’s well regarded; he’ll get the coaches he wants. He and Posada have a great relationship, he’s close to Andy and Mo, he’s got experience raising the kids right. Plus, he’s a media pro – his demurral from ever trashing the Marlins ownership shows his good sense and class.
110 days till pitchers and catchers!!
The YOUNGBRENNERS have no class, they treat Yankee Icons like they treated their wives of many years.
I was trying to find reference to the fact that Don Mattingly returned to the team in 2004 with the expectation (or even the desire) to be manager. I found nothing. Indeed, prior to accepting the Mets job, it was conventional wisdom that Randolph would replace Torre.
It is definitely true that Steinbrenner personally convinced Mattingly to come back — so the hint of making him a manager in the future might have been there as well — and once he becomes bench coach, the public perception was that he was next in line for manager. But I don’t think Donnie Baseball did enough to distinguish himself as a bench coach separate and apart from Torre’s sidekick. He never seemed to be giving Torre advice the way Zimmer did or establishing his own voice. The game in early May (see many earlier posts) and at least one other where Mattingly was acting manager may have hurt his canidacy more than they helped. The Yankees are making a break from the Torre era while keeping with Yankee tradition — in my mind, that led to Girardi instead of Mattingly. The fact that Girardi played catcher, has a very good mind between his shoulders, and did very well with the Marlins in 2005 also helps.
I hope Mattingly doesn’t hold this against the Yankees long term — and he shouldn’t unless he was explicitly told that the job was his at some point over the past four years — and that we see him again in a Yankee uniform.
Bob Michaels is like our own William Hung from American Idol. He’s got nothing going for him. Maybe he and Ed Whitson can get together.
bob michaels and kill shilling do us a favor and shut the f up….
Kill shilling mental midget who is playing 3B this yr for the whitesox?// Josh fields he is like 25, Crede is expendable and has 1 yr on his contract. they have a DH his name is Jim thome!!!!!
yeah the yanks have no good young position players; cano, melky, tabata, ajax, etc…
“The Yankees are in a lot of trouble. Their entire roster of position players is aging and their produciton is plummeting. And their best young position players prospects are few and undeveloped.
Damon, Giambi, Matsui, Abreu all have regressed. �
Ugh please go play in traffic. PITCHING WINS!!!”
You’re a fool, Standing O’Neil. If that were the case, the Toronto Blue Jays would have the second best record in the AL. They were second in the League with a 4.31 ERA. And the San Diego Padres would have won the NL. They led their league with a 4.89 ERA.
Yes, pitching is a necessary ingredient. Alas, it isn’t a sufficient one. I would have thought the Blue Jays– who Kevin Long credited with the best 11-man staff in the AL– would have taught you something.
I think I’ll decline your invitation to play in traffic, considering what’s it’s already to done to your mind.
Standing Oneil according to Buster Olney it was Girardi.
G Love. Eric Chavez is good for at least 150k`s a year.
How about we sing ‘The Best is Yet To Come’ instead Bob Michaels?
Murphy Dog you couldn`t touch my Fast ball, you`d quake at my heat, buckle at my curve.
Bob Michaels is most likely just a chump from nomass. Ignore the trolls and they leave.
I don’t think Crede is a bad fit at all. I mean what options do the Yankees really have at this point? We NEED a right handed hitter to fill the spot and has a little pop in him. I personally have always liked Crede and would love to see him come to the Yanks…
It would be great if the Yanks were able to resign Mo, Jorge and Pettite in the next 10 days so AFRAUDS latest excuse about the uncertainty could have been answered therefore making him come up with another lame excuse to avoid what every one knows. ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY WITH HIM.
Just looked up ARod in the dictionary this is what I found: 1. Money hungry
2. Mr April
3. The greatest regular season player to ever live
4. To take October off
Stuart, must you resort to Vulgarity!
Sherri – I’ve been wondering the same thing.
Lets say for example that Boras doesn’t have another team lined up and January rolls around and A rod doesn’t have a team. Then what? Not that I’m saying I want him back, but I was just thinking over different scenarios.
Bob Michaels – Arod just struck out 120 times in his MVP season and from looking at Chavez’s records he’s never K’d 150 times in a season in his career.
Crede stikes out a lot less, but Chavez was good enough for Mr. Moneyball to give a fat extension to and he’s all about on base and OPS.
Um, no, Bob Michaels is an idiot. The people from No Maas are smart.
i agree sj. we must wait to see what happens. But as of right now, we are looking up.
The key is the health of the young pitching, if we have that, we should be ok, if not, its going to be a long season
Chris in Mass , do you realize the Yanks have to make up at least 16 wins with the loss of Alex`s bat, without him they never would have made that resounding comeback.
It was Cashman the dwarf, who made the call, a little man does not have the proper shoe size to fill the shoes of a Yankee GM.
“BRING EDGAR RENTERIA HE HATES BOSTON AND IS NOT A MERCENARY AND IS A GOLDEN GLOVE”
how is renteria, who has played for more teams than A-Rod, not a mercenary?
D`man i wish that was the case.
Bob Michaels — Why are you trolling here instead of pleasuring yourself to the constipated look that Papelbon has on his face right before he throws the ball? Go celebrate the World Series with your boys at that big nineteenth century era port-a-potty in Boston also known as Fenway.
The Core of the Yankee team is in a state of flux.The old game plan instituted by Cashman is now? Does anybody know with certainity?
RE: Joe Crede
http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....0017.story
“Questions, however, remain about third base because Crede can become a free agent after the 2008 season…..
The value of Crede, who is eligible for arbitration, will be an interesting topic for the Sox. He received $4.94 million last season but played only 47 games, hitting .216 with four homers. That was a considerable drop from 2006, when he batted .283 with a career-high 30 home runs.”
“Chris in Mass , do you realize the Yanks have to make up at least 16 wins with the loss of Alex`s bat, without him they never would have made that resounding comeback”
16 wins?
if A-Rod was worth 16 wins, the yankees would have paid him $45M/year to stay.
Peter,
Am I missing something? Wasn’t Joe Kerrigan (incumbent bullpen coach) the pitching coach (and short-term manager)for Boston? Why isn’t he being considered as the new pitching coach?
“To predict the doom of 2008 6 months before Opening Day is just silly.”
it would be just as silly to predict the opposite that everything will be fine.
not that you are doing that. just saying.
kerrigan is knowedgeable but has a reputation as a baskstabber. he was basically a cashman snitch. that may sound harsh,but unless girardi himself picks him, he’s gotta go.
The most important hire now will be pitching coach. Hopefully it will be Eiland, with Patterson, Adred or Pavlick as BP coach.
Hate to brake it to you people, but the Yankees would have been in transition had the manager and third baseman remain the same. It’s now been 11 years since 1996. You need to change course, and I’d say they’re almost a little late in doing so. I apologize in advance if there are more growing pains ahead. I guess everyone here must be 12 years old or younger, since no remembers that we needed 1991-5 to get to 1996.
MurphyDog, you are a joke…..go suck up more to Peter…I like Peter, but he was dead wrong on Donnie….since you are obviously obsessed with me, go back and re-read my posts…I called Joe Girardi…your hero was wrong….you add nothing to these posts except man adulation for Peter.
Ciao, joke.
Chuck, I am not a Stinksox fan, I have my Yankee World Seies ring, 100 yr anniversary watch, pinstripe undershorts, Yankee Windbreaker, bat, Jacket, sweather, tie, Chair, Baseball pictures, plaques and Danbury mint figurines, Yankee pen, autographed balls, books etc.
It`s Yogi redux again.
Kill-Schill(ing)
“Hank Steinbrenner’s recent assertion that the Yankees are in transition became self-fulfilling prophecy. Nice work, Henry. Another idiot son to match Dubya and Dolan.”
As Ronaldus Maximus once said “There you go again.” Why do you insist on these gratuitous political comments? We are Yankee fans here, not R’s and D’s. BTW, news flash, a lot of us out here in “Red state” America don’t like people calling our President an idiot, especially during a war. So please, I’m asking with all due respect, let’s just talk about bsaeball, huh?
yanksrule57-
i don’t mind kill-shilling calling dubya an idiot. he’s just pointing out the reality of incompetent leadership. i go by another principle whether in baseball or politics and that is: question authority.
Girardi will turn more to littleball to make up for the power shortage. I can see a sign saying CHICKS DIG THE SCARIFICE BUNT
You’re a fool, Standing O’Neil. If that were the case, the Toronto Blue Jays would have the second best record in the AL. They were second in the League with a 4.31 ERA. And the San Diego Padres would have won the NL. They led their league with a 4.89 ERA.
Please Schill- the Blue Jays didn’t get their rotation in order until late in the second half when Burnett decided to start pitching again. Also the Jays offense isn’t even close to the Yankees offense. Even without arod the yankees have enough players who can hit the team into the postseason. And the Padres, they ahve no offense at all. Now if the yankees lost Posada, Arod, Damon and cano this year, then I’d say our offense is hurting. But while not as potenent, there is still a lot of offense to go around.
I’m not going to go back and see who keeps dissing Hank but I for one think he might be just what we need. He is obviously going to let the baseball people make the decisions and mostly keep his nose out of things. It may take a couple of years to get rid of the deadwood and bring in some real ballplayers but it will only be for the best in the long run.
bh blue-
with all due respect, hank is a dunderhead. keep his nose out of things? do you read the papers?