Girardi makes an appearance
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Nov 06, 2007 
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That the culture of the Yankees has changed became clear today when Joe Girardi, bench coach Rob Thomson and pitching coach Dave Eiland arrived at the GM Meetings.
Managers normally do not attend this event, never mind coaches. But Brian Cashman clearly wants Girardi heavily involved in the process of building the roster for 2008. Girardi and coaches also have started planning out spring training.
In what I took as a good sign, Girardi came over and spent about a 30 minutes talking to four of us from New York. A lot of it was informal, but he also spoke candidly about Florida 3B Miguel Cabrera.
Girardi managed Cabrera and talked about his issues. But he made it a point several times to say that Cabrera always played hard for him. Girardi didn’t say whether he would push for the Yankees to obtain him. But he said he wouldn’t recommend against the idea.
Girardi will be here through tomorrow. It’s a smart move by Cashman, getting his new manager this involved. It also says a lot about Girardi and the influence he wants to have.
can this be seen as a power play? I.E. Cashman and Girardi will be linked together no matter what happens next year. So when it comes time to re up his contract, cashman can have girardi in his corner?
Pete,
Does Girardi’s presence mean that something could get done this week?
My question is the following: Is Cabrera just adjusting to American life (he is still really young and make not have had the choices before that he does here) or is he lazy? Does he want to be an all-time great? His talent would suggest that he could be, but does he have the desire of a Jeter or a Rivera?
That is a really good sign. I think the fact that Girardi is so heavily involved at this stage shows how enthusiastic he is about the season and his job. This can only rub off well onto the players.
Seems like the power is back in the hands of the “baseball people”. I think Hank and Hal put Randy Levine in charge in the beginning, then got burned with the Torre disaster, so they have given control Cashman.
I like the idea of Miguel Cabrera as a 3rd basemen.
So Joe can sit on the meeting with Jorge and talk him into just signing.
Good to see hes being a hands on manager.
Also a good sign hes working so well with the executives.
“That is a really good sign. I think the fact that Girardi is so heavily involved at this stage shows how enthusiastic he is about the season and his job. This can only rub off well onto the players.”
No always the case: see Showlater, Buck
I think they just had Levine be the hatchet man and be the guy who looks like a jerk. All the idiots around here blew that way out of proportion.
This from the Chicago Tribune
A Crede-for-Damon trade would hit the White Sox in the wallet, as Damon is due $13 million in 2008 and 2009. But the deal could be expanded to include some pitchers the Sox are making available — most likely Jon Garland (with the Yankees sending back another player or two) but possibly Jose Contreras or reliever Mike MacDougal. The Sox believe they are six-deep in starting pitchers (Jon Danks, Gavin Floyd, Mark Buehrle, Javier Vazquez, Garland and Contreras) and could use that pitching depth to try to fill holes in the outfield and at shortstop.
If only Mark Buehrle didnt sign that extension…
Sounds like Girardi is laying the foundation for the next Yankee dynasty.
I’m glad that Girardi took time to chat with you guys, hope word gets back the Madden. He doesn’t seem to like this Joe too much.
Smart guy Girardi. Won’t push for a 3B who’s grossly overweight and doesn’t field his position all too well. Yet won’t say don’t no to that kind of talent.
Hey, Pete, you got a feel yet for which of the Joes is more diplomatic?
Vince-
Interesting report… A lot of that would hinge on who those other players would be from the Yankees..
Why the hell would the Yankees take back or trade for Jose?? He stunk here. Who is that hack of a writer?
Well, I don’t want any part of that deal, to be honest. I think Damon will have more value to another team looking for a center fielder.
Yeah.. If Andy comes back, we’ll basically be 6 deep at pitcher spot too.. Why add another SP to that list?
Migames,
There’s an article at the Times site about Showalter. Buck was not too flattered when they said that Girardi would be a control freak like him. Great read.
Because two of our three starters will be on inning limits. Both Hughes and Joba pitched only 114 innings last year. And if Cash has his way, I doubt they surpass 150 during the regular season. Which means, a lot of fanagling or another decent starter needs to be had so Joba and Hughes have an option of developing without the stress of possible injury.
Actually, I like migames’ nickname for Buck better – Showlater. HA!
Does anybody think the Contreras can pitch at a high level anymore? He looks cooked.
Dman,
It might make sense to go with a 6-man because we’ll be so rookie heavy and some of them might be on innings watch. Also Moose usually needs a rest period each season.
Hopefully Andy comes back and we won’t to worry about all this.
I can’t believe that we’d get rid of Damon in the wake of Torre and Alex leaving.
sunny615,
You’re such a showoff with all your formatting! Can you give us a quick primer?
Maybe the Yankees thinking is to get Garland then spin him he a trade with Melky and 2 mid level prospects for Santana
sunny615-
Ok I hear you..
But, if thats the case, are you saying we need 7 starting pitchers? 1 to protect Hughes’ pitch count and 1 to protect Jobas?
How would that work? I mean you clearly wouldn’t have a 7 man rotation right? So would you just give Hughes and Joba every other start off and use Moose or someone else in that spot?
Or if Moose gets a starting spot, do you take him out every now and then and plug Hughes or Joba in?
Doug,
I dont think Garland is better than Wang.Hes not even a #3 pitcher. The latest rumor was Wang, Melky and Ian. That proposal seemed much better and cheaper for the twins.
In todays nypost they said that Crede isnt being considered. It was Lowell,Beltre and Cabrera.
Phil Rogers is the writer, respected nationally and on the level of Stark and Gammons. But it’s just speculation, really. I don’t think the Yankees will trade for Crede. It’s more likely he’ll be non-tendered.
thes chicago rumors are almost as bad as 1/2 the retarted trade porposals on this site..
yeah get contreras the guy is old, overpaid, and innefective, sounds like a shreww move… Steve Phillips would make that move………
Damon CAN STILL PLAY………WATCH.
HA! Sorry mel – here’s the lowdown on what I got so far
this server seems to be HTML based so all of these “codes” are between pointy brackets ( – shift comma, shift period)
So the following code is started with pointy bracket (), – your text – and then a pointbracket (). forgive the ambigious way of typing this, but when I try to type an example, it performs the code operation instead.
b or strong – bold
i – italics
blockquote – gets you the nice box around text (if you want it quoted for example)
You can even combine the coding to get multiple effects:
I don’t remember the Showalter era–I was 10 in 1996, the first year of the Torre era, but I like the idea of Girardi getting involved.
As someone mentioned earlier, can it be that Girardi showed up because they are on the verge of making a trade? Why would he go their just to hang out. I sense by the comments Cashman has made in the last day, that something might be up.
Thanks!
Domo Arigatoo!
Cabrera’s team blows chunks (71-91) and it ain’t getting better anytime soon. It would seem to me that the team and its manager have a crappy attitude and poor discipline so Miguel gets fat because what’s the point of not eating that extra dozen or so twinkies after dinner?
Unless he has an undisclosed hormonal or glandular problem, Cabrera is playing the role of unhappy, spoiled superstar on a bad team. Cabrera’s agent, unless he or she is a complete moron, knows this kid needs a change of scenery ASAP.
I apologize if this is off-point or in the wrong thread or has been pointed out already, but an observation regarding the Posada negotiations. The Yankees cannot be surprised that Posada is shopping himself, based on the Yankees’ history of dealing with Posada. Now, this is not to suggest they have been fair or unfair, but from the player’s perspective, it is a factor.
In 1999, Posada wanted a raise from $350,000 to $650,000, but was denied, as the Yankees had just lost arbitration cases on Jeter and Rivera. He ended up with $450,000.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f.....A96F958260
Then, after the 2005 season, when Posada’s contract for 2007 was about to vest based on the number of games played, they tried to trade him:
“The Daily News reports that though moving Jorge Posada to first could also be an option, Cashman would prefer to trade the catcher and his hefty contract. The team hasn’t been able to find any takers, mostly due to the way Posada’s deal is structured. Posada is still one of the more productive catchers in the big leagues. The problem is the combination of how much his production costs, and the fact that it is only likely to decline as Posada gets older. The Daily News delves into his contract details:
“But assuming they’re unable to find a deal, the Bombers may be stuck with Posada. The Yanks would be able to pay him a $4 million buyout after next season if he doesn’t start 330 games at catcher between 2004-06, but he’s already at 249; making matters worse, if Posada reaches that plateau and 2007 becomes guaranteed, then Posada receives a player option for 2008.”"
http://www.nj.com/weblogs/yank.....05_11.html
It’s not hard to see where Jorge is coming from by “making the Yankees pay”. This will be his last contract and he should get as much as he can.
Once his contract is over, he’ll return to the Stadium for a $1,000 appearance fee per occurrance (standard for the Old-Timers).
Hip, hip, Jorge!!!
Well, since we probably don’t need a 5th until June, you can start with both of them in AAA on limited Innings/Pitch counts until June – maybe a 4 or 5 inning – or 75 pitch limit? And pull up Karstens/Rasner/Igawa/Clippard in those certain instances where a 4th and possibly a 5th starter is needed. That will help with keeping them fresh and still working. However, I’d probably still include a pitch/inning limit after june as well, keeping a long man/6th/7th inning guy in the pen for use when they pitch (depending on how our season/record is shaping up). That OR get another starter and keep Joba in AAA just to get his pitch count up to 150-165 and debut him in 09 with a possible Aug/Sept callup. That scenario would probably only happen if we’re kicking butt or tanking tho.
use the code as follows mel
open bracket, blockquote, closed bracket; open bracket, b, close bracket; open bracket, i, close bracket; your text; open bracket, slash, i, close bracket; open bracket, slash, b, close bracket; open bracket, slash, blockquote, closed bracket;
I really think the Yanks should take the year and just see what they’ve got. Champs perhaps in 2009, but how can they possibly know what they’ve got now? Let 2008 ride and see what happens.
No third baseman is out there, including Crede or Cabrera, that screams “TRADE” for me. Nobody on the FA circuit either. Yanks have Betemit. Let’s see what they can do. Heck, they had Sojo out there quite alot way back when and that turned out fine, right?
With A-Rod and Pettitte of the books, and Mo and Po potentially walking (thanks guys, you are legends, but it’s time to part ways–Adieu!), look at how much payroll that frees up! And the Yankees can run with a team that does not include them next year, probably with the same results if they stay on.
It’s gonna be young, unpredictable and exciting.
NO MO’ MO!
NO MO’ PO!
GO YANKS GO GO GO!
That’s my motto.
no punctuation of course
Orlando, AP:
For the first time Tuesday, baseball general managers recommended instant replay be used to help umpires make difficult decisions.
The recommendation, by a 25-5 vote, was limited to boundary calls — whether potential home runs are fair or foul, whether balls go over fences or hit the top and bounce back, and whether fans interfere with possible homers.
so by mixing and matching and moving those bracket codes around you can do just about anything really.
Test
The only 2 problems I have with Betemit is that he’s got a crappy work ethic and he’s got no plate discipline. If he can lose about 30 pounds and show some motivation about learning how to recognize pitches, then I’d be open to that. But as it stands right now, Betemit’s best fit is as a utility guy.
I have faith in Joe Girardi’s eye for talent. If he were to sign off on Cabrera I would be totally on board. As of right now I have my reservations with him. The lack of discipline scares me.
showalter or later, however you want it didnt like the way ken griffey wore his hat backwards. I remember readin in yankee magazine (no less) that he use to sleep in his office and that he wouldnt see his family for days on end. Wierd guy
blockquote I think is the best code so far – helps separate posts.
sunny615-
That’s a good prediction of how they might work it.
It’s walking a tight line though..
I think you’re right.. It’ll go Wang, Andy (I hope), Moose, Kennedy until June.. Then they can play a few games with whoever preforms the best out of the spring training invties like Karstens, Wright, Igawa, etc..
Igawa makes sense if they don’t trade him in the mean time.. They did spend a fair amount of money on him..
A lot rides on Andy.
sunny,
There will be riots in New York if Joba’s not there for the whole season.
If you have the fortune of having 7 good pitchers you go with Wang, Pettite, Joba, Chicago dude, Mussina in the first part of the season. Kennedy and Hughes work out of bullpen with Hughes being the longman and Kennedy being a reliever. Second half of the season Hughes and Mussina switch roles. I don’t know if this works out, but I’ve been managing games in my mind for a couple of seasons now.
More likely than not, we won’t have 7 guys. I see them trading for a pitcher only if Andy doesn’t come back. I don’t see them trading Damon either.
I would agree to a Damon/B-Prospect for Crede/Garland trade. I agree that we will need a sixth starter for next year for insurance/innings count purposes, even though I do not agree with the person who stated that Garland is better than Wang.
The recommendation, by a 25-5 vote, was limited to boundary calls — whether potential home runs are fair or foul, whether balls go over fences or hit the top and bounce back, and whether fans interfere with possible homers.
somewhere jeffery maier is smiling
I don’t know, call me crazy but, I think its a tad premature to write off the 2008 season.
Geez, some of you need to go outside and play for awhile and relax a bit.
The panic in here from some is pathetic.
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{blockquote) I think is the best code so far – helps separate posts.{/}blockquote}
{b}{i}testing{/i}{/b}
SJ: But it’s friggin’ cold as f— outside!
Has anyone read anything on what kind of package Seattle would seek for Beltre? I’ve read his name mentioned in connection with the Yankees in several places, but haven’t seen anyone mention any possible proposals.
Mel-
I don’t know.. If they do it that way, I tihnk its far more likely that you’ll see Joba in the bullpen and Hughes in the rotation.
And I cant see them switching a guy into the rotation half way through the season..
If they want one of the rookies to be a starter, and he can’t fit into the rotation, he’ll be a starter in AAA.
Obviously, not right.
Maybe Mussina will actually provide some flexibility. I don’t know if he would want to keep it up, but he could be used some as a spot starter of a long reliever. He was willing to be used as a long reliever in the playoffs when Wang left Game 4 early. I say that with some reservation though, because we all know how important that his routine is to him.
And yes, I changed my handle to include my first name!
LOL Rebecca
Mel, how do you get the bold? I can’t seem to get it!
[b]Like this maybe?
SJ – You are completely right. We should wait to lose at least two games before we panic and write the season off.
Doreen – It isn’t {} it’s
Yanks can do better than Crede at 3rd.
Sorry…it is lesser than sign and greater than sign.
shift + ,
Shift + .
panic after torre might have been pathetic
panic after arod might have been premature
panic after pettitte…do i see a trend.
Obviously, nothing is a guarantee. And the future does look bright. I say, im cautiously optimistic about 08. Doesnt mean I think the yankees will lose 100 games, but right now, its not looking so good.
(b)bold(/b)
Agreed Phil. Crede would be a work around, not a solution.
Start with
mel,
I can’t see Cashman risking injury to Joba because fans will riot. I think he’d be more upset if Joba started showing signs of injury or hitting a wall come July than fans being upset in April. Getting the most out of Joba for a 162 game season is more important than starting off good. Kennedy makes more sense in the rotation since he threw 165 innings last year and is on track for 200 in 08.
raymagnetic – use the pointy brackets (above comma and periods)
Dman,
I thought about that, too. Hughes really needs to work on getting stong again and getting back to being the groundball pitcher that he was pre-hamstring.
I’d really like to see what Joba can do for a full season.
Whoever has the lower innings cap needs to chill in the first half and Mussina usually peeters out in the second half.
It’s better to have more than enough (e.g. Boston ’06, Yankees ’07), but I can’t imagine trading for a pitcher unless we lose Andy. This year we’ll be depending on Joba and Hughes to fill holes rather than Clippard, Rasner, and Karstens (God bless his soul).
Come back Andy!
Good to see. At this time Torre was usually vacationing in Hawaii.
Thanks Sunny
I say “pass” on Garland.
They need to keep the young arms and forget trading for Santana.
Depth is far more important than an “ace”.
What time is class on these text tricks?
But when I try this it doesn’t post!
Sunny,
Both Dman and I got two box quotes. One with text and one blank. Do you know why?
I agree that depth is more important, but if we can land Santana while giving up 1 pitcher and position players I think we should do it, because you are gaining an ace without affecting the depth.
Except then.
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I think it’s because you’re putting the slash blockquote in the wrong order when closing out the code… you have to do it in reverse order that you put it in – well, not have to, but it may help
blockquote, b, i then text, /i, /b, /blockquote
Best blog on the net. Where else can you cheer for the Yankees, second guess their personnel moves, trash the Red Sox, cheer and jeer the blog host, play GM, AND learn HTML code?
ahh I finally got it
Sunny not all html code works here I gather? I was trying to do a bulleted list but it didn’t work.
Ahhhhh wow my last message is hard to read heh..
Yah dont forget to put the “/” at the end of your blockquote people.. Yikes, sorry..
Sunny – How about a Visual Basic class next week?
The only problem with that is the Twins aren’t going to trade Johan Santana without getting Joba or Hughes in return. They can’t trade the best pitcher in MLB without getting a viable replacement that is major league ready to plant in his vacated spot.
I don’t see Kennedy as that guy.
yes Mel
{[]}{b}{i}cant get this right{-i}{-b}{-[]}
Good work people!!
If you want, but I think people would fall asleep here in a visual basic class unless Jeter was teaching it.
HA!
raymagnetic – no – I think they disabled a lot of it – including bulleted list and underline. I’m going through a lot of alternate coding to see if they have their own specialized code for those things…
Thanks, sunny. I wasn’t closing out the code with the slash. Anyway to get strikethrough and superscript before today’s workshop ends?
S.o.S.27 (shift comma and shift period) pointy brackets.
man you people are demanding!! HAHA!
Thanks again Sunny!
S.o.S27 its not the “{‘ bracket..
Hit the ‘Shift’ Key then hit the keys that looks like sideways ‘V’… It’s the keys that would normally be your comma key and your period key..
I would make a deal for Miguel Cabrera, and include Ian Kennedy and Jose Tabata on it.
I know many of you won´t like it, but for me is simple: The Yankees have two choices, contend in 2008 or rebiuld. Clearly by taking Abreu back, and talking to Mo, Posada and Pettite, they want to contend. They don´t want the first round draft picks those guys could bring. They need a 3b and a RH cleanup hitter. Cabrera is the obvious choice, not Crede, Rolen, Lowell or Beltran.
Look, I love IPK, but there´s a chance he could end up having the same career as Allan Horne. And Tabata is more Bernie Williams than Manny, and his wrist could be a problem his entire career. Do you know who is closer to be the next Manny? Miguel Cabrera. He is young and capable of filling A-Rod´s production, and the Yankees will be getting his prime years.
sunny,
But it did take our minds off of 3B, Andy, and Pavano. Thank you.
blockquote, b, i then text, /i, /b, /blockquote
[b,i,this is killing me,/i,/b,]
Sunny – I would like to include .gif animations. Make it happen…Now!
hahahahaha
Do a favor and you’ll have a job for life my friend.
how bout hitting at the same time the Ctrl Alt and arrow sign pointing left or right….good times to follow…
DISCLAIMER: Dont do it if you freak out….you have been warned
only works on some windows pcs
testing
boo I can’t figure this codes thing out
SOS
Hit the following keys in the following order…
Shift + ,
b
Shift + .
T
E
S
T
Shift + ,
/
B
Shift + .
Involved and informed…. good
Influence…. bad
The manager is the on field employee, let him worry about. Last thing I want is Cash making moves, or not making them, based on his manager. This happened a lot with Torre… he had guys he would trust and guys he wouldnt. So often instead of making the smart baseball move they made the move Torre was confortable with. Let’s not repeat this with Girardi.
Heres another cool thing with this blog, Im not sure if people noticed…
If you put your cursor over the date and time box in the top right of each message, then right click on it and go to properties, you can see in the link what comment # it is..
For example my last post url was http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....ent-190356
So it was comment 190356…
I’m not 100 percent sure its counting just from this blog, but if you follow the numbers, it sure seems to be..
If thats true, then were closing in on 200,000 comments.. Whew..
Does anyone actually know how much Cabrera weighs today? There are reports of 30-75lb weight gain which is a huge margin. I know he’s fat, not just chubby but by how much? Johnny D was fat last spring but look at him now.
Pointy brackets?
Okay, I’m going to go all English minor on you!
() = Parentheses.
{} = Set brackets.
[] = Brackets. I call ‘em open brackets, but that’s just me.
The thingies that share the keys with period and comma? Less than and greater than signs.
Seriously, though, anyone want to teach me CSS?
People don’t realize how great a talent Cabrera is. I would prefer he play 1B though, since he and Jeter would be miserable defensively together on that side.
Rebecca – I work at Software development firm. I have about a dozen people here that could give you CSS pointers.
Geesh-
Becarefull, when you put the ending ‘blockquote’ make sure you write it /blockquote
dont forget the “/” or you’ll end up quoting the whole thing, even what you write..
sunny615, if you want the open and close brackets to show up (to teach people how it’s done), i think you can type < and &rt;.
I think it’s
text
from left to right (couldn’t do it horizontal because it would do the command.)
SOS, like MIKE R said
Hit the following keys in the following order…
STEP 1
Shift + ,
b
Shift + .
STEP 2
Shift + ,
/
B
Shift + .
RED SOXS SUCK
scratch that last post, it did the commands anyway.
+”b+>test+”/b+>
{what the}
SOS no plus !!!!
<b>Just testing my own theory…</b>
Sorry SOS. It isn’t plus sign. The plus sign means press shift and the comma at the same time
like that ^^^
ugh why can’t we go back to the old codes. Just when I got those down, we change.
Are we messing with the blog? Some comments are piggybacking each other between the 3:05 mark and the 3:07 mark.
So what’s everyone do for a livig…
(Im looking to get back out on the job market…)
Mike R–Aaah!
See, I want a template for my blog that isn’t one of the defaults, but doesn’t reek of myspace or AOL 2.0 web skillz
So if you know anyone, point ‘em my way
Ooohhhh he got it to show! Thats the code for it everybody..
S.o.S.27 (NO PUNCTUATION – punctuation is for separation purposed only)
italic words are key combinations
bold words are non-coded text
regular words are code inside brackets:
BLOCKQUOTE
shift+commablockquoteshift+periodyour textshift+comma/blockquoteshift+period
BOLD
shift+commabshift+periodyour textshift+comma/bshift+period
shift+commaishift+periodyour textshift+comma/ishift+period
to combine them:
shift+commablockquoteshift+period shift+commabshift+period shift+commaishift+periodyour textshift+comma/ishift+period shift+comma/bshift+period shift+comma/blockquoteshift+period
make sense?
miller–I’m a senior undergraduate at Syracuse University.
Yourself?
“b>test”/b>
<b>Bold text</b>
<i>Italicized text</i>
<u>Underlined text</u>
<blockquote>
</blockquote>
I think those are the only ones allowed, but I could be wrong…
Yeah, I guess the underlines don’t work either.
sos,
replace each of your quotes with the left arrow symbol and you’ll be in business.
testing
Guys:
Please find some earlier post from a week ago to work on your coding. You’re cluttering up this latest post. Thanks.
Uncle Lukie has it. Im not sure how he got the code to show, but just copy that code.
Im a lowely Paralegal thinking about Law School.
But I dont know if its for me anymore, I figure looking for a job on this board could’t hurt…
UNCLE LUKIE, pretty much giving the answers to the test it’s up to them to use it
Does anyone here think Pettite declined his player Option(opted out) to get more than 16 Mil this season?
guys, lets remember this is a yankee blog. not a coding forum. (although, i always wondered how to do the fancy stuff.)
PETE – WE NEED MORE YANKEE NEWS, WE’RE ALL DORKING OUT RIGHT NOW!!!
wow, i just went to a 6 month old thread to test out code after sunny’s first post.
meanwhile, this has turned into the test code out thread…
need to figure out how to post links now…
SOS is pulling our leg
rebecca – greater than and less than signs… sorry.
Here’s another reformatted version that’s easier to read:
(NO PUNCTUATION – punctuation is for separation purposed only)
italic words are key combinations
bold words are non-coded text
regular words are code inside brackets:
BLOCKQUOTE
shift+commablockquoteshift+period your text shift+comma/blockquoteshift+period
BOLD
shift+commabshift+periodyour textshift+comma/bshift+period
shift+commaishift+periodyour textshift+comma/ishift+period
to combine them:
shift+commablockquoteshift+period shift+commabshift+period shift+commaishift+period your text shift+comma/ishift+period shift+comma/bshift+period shift+comma/blockquoteshift+period
cant take this anymore
I don’t think so. If anything, its to get another player option for 2009.
Rebecca – I’ll talk to a couple of my buddies here to see if they have any recommendations.
NYY,
If he did, that’s o.k. by me. At least he did it the right way. ha ha.
“I don’t know, call me crazy but, I think its a tad premature to write off the 2008 season.”
it’s also a tad premature to say it’s going to be a good one.
one thing i notice trying to read the tea leaves of 2008 is that the yankees have coaches who weren’t stars and were primarily journeymen. so non stars are going to be the authority figures over star players. that generally works better with young players than veterans. these kind of coaches are a better fit for ayoung team than a veteran all star team. maybe that is what cashman has in mind.
if he does, i wish he’d just say goodbye to the veterans and get moving on the switch to a younger team. maybe he wants them to leave ,but doesn’t want to take the public relations hit and say it.
everyone has to admit this is one of the stranger periods in yankeedom. this is not business as usual.
I think they should rebuild. I think the window to contend is closed for now.
We need to find a successor to Posada and Mo. That is only going to come through the farm.
Think about it, the offense shuts down in the playoffs and the pitching is crap for how many years now? That was WITH everyone aboard last year (meaning A-Rod, Posada, and Rivera).
It does not stand to reason that it will improve by much this year, with the same cast of characters. With extended contracts MAYBE in the final year of three year contracts would Mo and Po be ale to contend with this team.
I think letting them walk is smart, it saves money and cuts a clear path in terms of goals for player development and adds to the “war chest” for future FA signings (Santana, for example).
Just my .02, and I am not panicked by any stretch at all.
this is amazing!
less than (shift comma) a href=”http://link” greater than (shift period) linked text less than (shift comma) /a greater than shift period
SOS is pulling our leg
Guys as you can see im the most computer illiterate person on this site.
Go figure a mortgage broker with no concept in computers.
Thanks mel
testing
schools out – no more coding hints from me –
sorry about that pete.
I’ll post a blog on it later and email it to pete so he can send everyone there if they still need help.
COOL
Damon to St.Louis for 3B Scott Rolen and CF Jim Edmonds then Edmonds to the Angels for a prospect (since the Yanks are just moving his $8M).
The Yanks pay a mil a year less for Rolen than Damon 2008-09 (Damon’s $13M – Rolen’s $12M each year) and an extra $10M in payroll in 2010 only ($12M for 2010 Rolen – $2M saved 2008-09 trading Damon = $10M).
The Yanks get their 3B (Rolen). Cabrera bats leadoff. Matsui plays in LF. Giambi remains at DH/ far away from 1B. Shelley Duncan gets work in at 1B and battles Andy Phillips for the job in spring training. If Duncan wins the 1B job, the Yanks would have three righthanded hitters (Jeter, Rolen, and Duncan) to complement their lefthanded hitting (Cano, Matsui, Abreu, and Giambi).
Cabrera/Jeter/Abreu/Posada/Matsui/Rolen/Cano/Giambi/Duncan
The Cardinals get their new veteran leadoff-hitting CF (Damon) and shed $18M from their payroll through 2010 (Rolen’s $36M the Yanks take on – Damon’s $26M they take on = $10M + Edmonds’ $8M for 2008 = $18M).
The Angels get an old familiar face who becomes their one-year $8M DH (Edmonds).
The bottom line is the Yanks need more righthanded hitting and power and a 3B, Rolen fits the bill despite an off-year in 2007. Damon finished 2007 strong, but who knows what shape he’ll be in or if he’ll even be in shape for 2008? The guy has shown himself to be a lazy. Also he returns to Missouri/ a more chill environment than N.Y. Also remember Cardinals fans are still smiling from the 2006 World Series, so Damon is free and clear of ire (not to mention he should be better than 2006-07 Edmonds).
Okay. We’re getting somewhere!
HURRAY! I can be taught
Sorry about that Pete, but I’m sure Girardi would be happy that we were working very hard to get it perfect in his thread.
Please, everyone remember 11/6/07 Girardi thread as the one to look for when you need the hints.
see above Brandon
thanx sunny
neat
Quickly – for quick blog coding hints (that I know of so far) go here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/su.....6140135122
my pleasure JDnotDrew
Thanks Sunny
ok people back to news, any updates on Edwin Encarnacion rumors ?
Steve Goldman is an idiot! http://www.nysun.com/article/65905
WTF Goldman equates this scum with the a true Yankee and legend. Someone should remind Goldman that Jolt’n Joe actually made it past the 2nd round and into the BIG SHOW winning them almost more years than this phony’s played in the bigs.
LOLzzzzzzz
Matthew Reed:
Goldman is not equating ARod’s status with DiMaggio as ” a true Yankee legend”, but is equating his offensive production to Joe D’s in the Yankees 91941) lineup… and he’s absolutely right!
Regardless of the “circus” that is ARod, .314 BA/.422 OBP/.645 SLG OCT/ 54 HR/156 RBI/ 143 R will be difficult, in not impossible, to replace with one hitter.
That said, good offensive production from 1B, 3B and DH could help offset those impressive numbers.
That’s (1941)!
(too many “codes lessons” today!)
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thanks for the GREAT post! Very useful…