Comments on: Update on Posada and Rivera

By: JDnotDrew

JDnotDrew — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:40:10 +0000

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JDnotDrew — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:39:49 +0000

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JDnotDrew — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:39:24 +0000

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JDnotDrew — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:38:58 +0000

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JDnotDrew — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:38:24 +0000

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By: Jeff in MA

Jeff in MA — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:54:19 +0000

You just donâ€™t make emotional decisions on players. It IS a business. Fans donâ€™t like hearing it but it is.

Fans also donâ€™t like an old, unathletic roster of players who canâ€™t play anymore. They hate that more than it being a business.

Patronizing doesn’t suit you, SJ44; thought you were above that. It’s not all about emotion. The guy has high value now when we are clearly going to be needing rbis next year. We need to keep him around and four years might be necessary to do that. Beyond that, why is it a foregone conclusion that he’s worth being the highest paid catcher for three years, but a crippling albatross in the fourth? If it’s truly 100% all about business, then Jorge most likely shouldn’t be the highest paid catcher in the game in the third year, either. Chris NY said it best; handling these guys at this point in their career is tricky. Compromises sometimes have to be made (ideally by both sides a la Schilling today). I hope Jorge accepts a three year or shorter deal, but I think it’s short sighted to show him the door if he won’t. Give him four years for less money—negotiate. Take it or leave it is not a good way to do business. (If the Mets really offer something as crazy as five years, then OK, I guess he’s gone.)

This attitude that fans who actually give a **** about the players are just dumb and emotional and sentimental finds its ultimate embodiment in players like ARod. If that’s really true, then let’s just build the new stadium with nothing but corporate luxury boxes and let the stupid masses watch on YES (and hopefully PAY for the privilege) if they’re still interested. Hank’n’Hal at least give lip service to the importance of the fans; I hope it’s not just lip service.

Sorry for the late response; actual work precluded putting this together earlier.

By: Faiaz

Faiaz — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:22:08 +0000

Hey guys, maybe we should all be positive about Pavano. After all, he still is under contract with us and we should support everyone on our team even if we dislike them. Who knows, if he doesn’t hurt himself during walking from the lockers to the field on the first day of spring training and has stuff like he did in 2003 in case Pettite doesn’t sign, not to say he’ll be better than pettite but wang, joba, phil, ian and pavano doesn’t sound half bad, looks better than mussina at the last spot.

By: YankeeInMichigan

YankeeInMichigan — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:54:18 +0000

Assume that Rivera continues his trend of dropping his inning count by four innings/year. He will then average 63 innings/year over the next three years. $40 million will then be $211,640/inning.

By contrast, Roger Clemens made about $175,750/inning this year.

By: Samples

Samples — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:48:48 +0000

Tarheel – One example of over spending on others preventing the Yankees from spending on the right player – Carlos Beltran. A ton of foolish money was spent on Pavano, Wright, Karsay, Giambi, etc making them skiddish about dropping another $100MM. He’s not always the impact player people thought he could be, but passing on a 28 year old free agent, with his prime years in front of him was a huge mistake.

High payroll and fat contracts kills the yankees in countless ways.