Karstens leads Team USA past Mexico
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- November
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Jeff Karstens threw six scoreless innings for Team USA in the Baseball World Cup today in Taiwan. The U.S. beat Mexico 3-0 in its opener as Karstens allowed five hits with two walks and two strkeouts.
John Blundell of MLB is over there and told me that most of the questions Karstens received after the game were about being teammates with Chien-Ming Wang.
No word yet on when Jeff will pitch again, but we’ll keep you posted.
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Good for Karstens!!!
He can still prove to be a valuable pitcher in the MLB.
Nice to see that, maybe we can use in a trade, or he can be our long man
Karstens could have some value as a spot starter/long reliever. This year was a struggle for him from the start due to the elbow trouble and the broken leg in April. If he gets an injury-free campaign this year then just maybe we could see a bit of the promise that he showed in ‘06.
congrats to Jeff
and hooray for a new Ad, ‘Kohl’s’. (No offense, laser hair removal for men!)
“Injury-free campaign NEXT year.” Next year, not this year.
Yay Jeff!
Nice. He might see some starts next season. The Yankees can’t pitch Hughes and Job the whole season.. Innings limit, and all that..
Atta boy, Jeff! He’s had some hard luck but looking good now – another young arm for ‘08! GO YANKS.
Good Job, Jeff!
Shh! Nobody tell him he may have just pitched his way off the Yankees.
Jeff Karstens threw six scoreless innings for Team USA in the Baseball World Cup today in Taiwan…...WAIT…make him the ACE of the staff !...come on now,,,do you REALLY think that the Baseball World Cup is a good indicator of how he will pitch NEXT YEAR in the MLB for the Yankees ? A leetle bandwagon jumping here,,,,don’t ya think ?
It’s like 1:45 a.m. Thursday in Taiwan.
So this game was actually played yesterday. We need to keep that in mind when following Team USA.
Who said make him the ace?
He can be used as a long reliever or spot starter..
Thanks for the update on Karstens. He’s not one of the 3 pitching prospects we regularly hear about, but could play an important role in the rotation down the road (especially if they end up trading one of the ‘3’). They extent of your coverage is much appreciated.
i think it is great, even if it is against inferior competition. this kid needs to get some confidence and remember that he has a lot of talent.
I think all this does is up his trade value… by how much … probably only Cashmoney knows. Karstens could be a solid 4 or 5 on an NL team… IMO that’s where Cash could use him as trade bait – for what – is anyone’s guess – probably an add on in a bigger trade deal.
Sell High! Trade him now!
Jeff Karstens is not a “solid 4 or 5 starter”. Frankly with his stuff he will be lucky if he has a job at the major league level again
News Flash: Karstens still stinks
Hey Marlins….you don’t need Ian Kennedy for Migs. Look, this guy just beat the entire damn world. Repeat….you don’t need Kennedy. Karstens is better. You are getting sleeeeepy.
Crawling: its called rooting for your players. No ones calling him an ace. Just happy for him is all.
If Karstens was any good Pete would have spelled his name correctly in the headline.
good point Rob
I respectfully disagree… in the NL, facing weaker lineups, I think Karstens could fare pretty well…
Karstens just upped his trade value.
What would it take to grab Hudson from AZ.? Cano plays third.I would bet less than(money and prospects)Cabrera,Rolen,Atkins,Lowell and Crede.
I respectfully disagree… in the NL, facing weaker lineups, I think Karstens could fare pretty well…
Or the Devil Rays for that matter.. How could he not get a starting spot or pitch out of the BP for that team?
rats, forgot the blockquote on that one..
I’m confused. What’s the difference between this tournament and the World Baseball Classic?
i’ve liked Karstens because he pounds the strike zone and works very quickly. i think he definately suits the role of a spot starters and long man out of the pen, which i’ve read Girardi insists on having on his roster.
i could see Karstens going in a trade for a mid-level player who is being displaced by a younger player, say for example, Scott Hatteberg in Cincy. Cincy always needs pitching, and Karstens could have success pitching to those lineups in the NL Central. Hatteberg’s option was picked up, but Joey Votto is ready to go.
Karstens is an extreme flyball pitcher who doesn’t miss bats, no major league team will knock on the Cash’s door for Jeff Karstens.
I just hate that every young kid gets tagged with the “solid 4-5” label no matter how poor their stuff is. Do you really want to pitch Jeff Karstens every 5th day?
Pete, just reading around some of your fellow journalist entries in local fish wraps.
What percentage of your fellow journalists think about what they write rather than pulling from the AP wire and circulating stories? The Joe Crede/Johnny Damon story is an perfect example.
IMO, the equation for the New York Yankees 2008 Roster.
Right now, trade Ian Kennedy, Jeff Karstens, Tyler Clippard and Jose Tabata to the Marlins for 3B Miguel Cabrera. Throw in $5-7M, Beinfest is a whooa for cash, to quote Paulie from the Sopranos. They said publically that they want one of the Lethal Weapon 3’s, (Hughes, Joba or Ian), so give ‘em Ian, and some other good prospects, fill it out with cash for their new stadium. Plus, they have been looking for a young bonafide CF for a long time, since Pierre left a few years ago and Tabata is ranked high.
Then, trade the farm for Johan. Just hear me out. Trade highly regarded prospect Alan Horne, plus Melky Cabrera, b/c you know Hunter is bolting, Humberto Dirty Sanchez, Chase Wright, any and all except Cano, Joba or Hughes. If they want Damon, we pay him off and send him on his way. I could see $5 more M being added to this to make it happen, especially with new balprak opening in Minn. as well.
So, the Starting 5 is Johan, Joba, Wang, Hughes and Moose. Poss Pettitte? If not, then for delpth, go get Fatolo Colon for a one year, $5 M deal that is incentive laden, club option, etc. as back up.
The infoeld would be set with Cabrera at 3B, assuming Minky comes back to 1B, would have to with just Roid-boy in the last year of his megadeal there, with Duncan surely being traded away. And for the OF, with Melky and poss Damon gone, you go Abreu in RF, sign Hunter 4 years, $70M to play CF, good glove, righty bat, great clubhouse, and then you have Matsui in left, sharing time with Damon if still around.
Boom. I should be GM. Someone tell me how that doesn’t work. All those trades are pretty fair, I’d say. Its not like I am throwing out the Pavano for Ortiz and Manny ideas so many idiots on here do…...
I just hate that every young kid gets tagged with the “solid 4-5″ label no matter how poor their stuff is. Do you really want to pitch Jeff Karstens every 5th day?
Well as the Yankees, no not at all.. But go take a look at some of the other pitchign staffs out there.. They could definitly use a guy like Karstens..It’s not like he’d be the best 5th starter in the league or anything, but he could definitly be decent in that spot.
“Someone tell me how that doesn’t work”
You only gave up 1 decent pitching prospect and 2 pitchers who don’t project as a ML SP for Cabrera. Every team will blow that offer out the door
Like I said earlier, I don’t think Karstens will get moved just because he pitched a shut out at the World Cup, but he may make an already exisiting package more appealing to the other team.
WHy sign Hunter for 4 years when you have your future center fielder, Austin Jackson, a year or two away?
shamus: you are not getting Johan Santana unless Phil Hughes or Chamberlain are in the deal. Just because you give them 5 guys in return doesn’t mean you get Santana back.
Shamus-
Also, with the Colon idea, the Yankees don’t do incentive laden contracts for players..
DMan …... all I am saying is that it is really nice that he did well…but it means very little ….
You don’t get top talent without giving up top talent. No one is going to give you one of the best hitters in the league for your third best prospect and 2 marginal ones. Even with Tabata included – he’s not ML ready and probably is another 2 years off. Marlins will expect Joba or Hughes and nothing less. If the Yanks don’t give them up, another team will give up their #1 to get Cabrera or a better propect than Kennedy with a higher ceiling.
Can’t we be happy for the guy. Finally pitching and doing pretty darn well. He had a very difficult season, so lets not put him down.
Ture, but him pitching well opens up more doors than if he had gotten shelled..
I don’t want Colon on this team. He is injury prone and doesn’t seen to have a good work eithic. NO NO NO!! IN the last two years he pitched a total of 28 games!! HE is not that good!!
Colon? Wasnt he the one throwing batting practice to A hole. And also to the whole league last year? I would take Chase Wright over Pilsbury.
the fake GM Shamus is hilarious
OH GOD !!!! CASHMAN PLEASE DON’T TRADE TABATA OR ACTION, AVOID THE TEMPTATION !! STAND TALL !!
Brandon, I believe you are being serious. I don’t want to see either of those guys traded. Imagine two years from now when Johnny is gone and outfield of all our prospects.
Melky tabata and action jackson.
shamus. the marlins want a CF … right now tabata is a RF and will be in the future. hes getting pretty heavy. clippard and wright have little trade value in my opinion, they aren’t going to get you anyone big like cabrera or johan.
people have to remember, its quality not quantity when it comes to trading prospects.
also cashman isn’t going to “trade the farm” it took him 3 years to make it a top 5 system in the MLB.
If the twins end up deciding not to trade Santana. How about a package for Peavy?
I would love Peavy. Who wouldn’t?
But I haven’t heard of him being on or anywhere near the trading block..
I think they’d be crazy to trade him.
Jennifer, what scares me is Cashman may try to salvage a yr. for the franchise, I trust Cashman but if he lets Tabata or Action go trust I’m calling for his head everyday after that deal goes final, I mean what idiot GM trades top baseball OF prospects one is 19 the other is 21
The Yanks should strike first with an offer to Lowell of 2 years at $10M/yr. = $20M that way Boston has to counter with more years and money i.e. a longer and/ or more lucrative contract which will hurt them. If Lowell takes the 2 and 20, sign him. If he doesn’t, forget him and hope Boston betters that offer.
If Lowell can’t be signed, the Yanks should offer Ian Kennedy to San Diego for righthanded hitting 3B Kevin Kouzmanoff who posted .275 BA, 18 HR, and 74 RBI for only $380,800 in his first full year with S.D. this year. He turns only 27 years old next 7/25. S.D. could start Chase Headley at 3B.
Damon LF L
Jeter SS R
Abreu RF L
Posada C S
Matsui DH L
Kouzmanoff 3B R
Cano 2B L
Giambi 1B L
Cabrera CF S
i believe peavy will be a F.A. in 08 unless he re-ups w/ the pads, might as well wait and sign em then if he is something the yankees want
He will be a free agent the same time Santana is 09. They might want to unload him before its too late. Cash seems to have a good trading relationship with the Pads. Maybe trade Ian,Melky and other top prospects to land him. And while we’re at it give them Igawa(they wanted this year) for Kouz and put him at firstbase.
THE HELL W/ LOWELL ALREADY !!!
splits stats away from Fenway he stinks
Kouzmanoff is a bad 3B to put it kindly.
I love these posts that emphatically state, “you are NOT going to get Miguel Cabrera (or Santana, or whoever else) without trading Joba, Hughes, or Kennedy.” Why, because you said so? If you had this inside information, you wouldn’t have the time to be posting on someone’s blog about it. You’d be in Orlando drinking Crystal with Brian Cashman.
I don’t think Cash will make the trade. But if someone tell him to he might not have a choice.
raymagnetic, a shi—y third baseman is Kouz
why the hell is everyone so desperate to trade all our prospects all of a sudden? my god…learn your lesson. Cash didn’t build this farm system up so much to just unload it all in one offseason. Peavy had a good season, but he got hammered by colorado in the one game playoff. He’s got good stuff and is definitely an ace, but he is not someone i would sell the farm for, that’s stupid.
Why don’t we get Aaron Boone. We don’t need an All Star at every position. Plus we will come full circle.
Maybe we can get him for a 2 year deal cheap. Who is available 08 or 09?
splits stats away from Fenway he stinks
Its true. Away from Fenway he hit .272. Which is basically his career avearge.
This not terrible at all, but hes going to be asking for more money than he’d be worth.. And more years..
He won’t settle for 2 years from anybody. 3 is a minimum for him, but he’ll start out asking for 4.
Move Kouz to first. Still look for a guy to take over third base duties.
evil fox shill people say that because its true. the marlins have requested them …
“Brian Cashman met with the Marlins at about 6 p.m. last night at the GM meetings. No offers were made, but a source with knowledge of the situation said the Marlins made it clear that the Yankees would have to include either Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain or Ian Kennedy in any trade for Cabrera, something the Yankees are not willing to do.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/11/07/2007-11-07_yankees_want_miguel_cabrera_wont_trade_b-3.html
if you talk to cashman tell him to get my crystal ready. i’m coming to orlando.
boosh.
it’s making me sick listening to FATCESSA and FRUITY LOOPS leading the brigade yeh the Yankees should trade Tabata in a deal and Cabrera would be the right deal, he’s 19 you fat idiot, I swear the only thing he knows about the Yankees is Bernie Williams
Cashman is exactly what this team needs right now. He’s sticking to his convictions and tightening the belt. Now, other teams will know that when Cashman says something he means it. Look at the Abreu/Lidle (God rest his soul) trade, Gagne no-trade, and the Alex opt-out.
No more of these we’ll pay YOU and TAKE your rubbish deals. You want to deal? Fine, just don’t waste our time or use us to inflate the price. And be prepared to blow us away if you want any of our top prospects.
Cashman’s not going abandon the plan if the ship starts taking on water. He’s trying to do his job not save his job. Of course he’ll make mistakes, but which GM doesn’t? And please don’t tell me Theo doesn’t make mistakes.
If I’m Cashman I’ll definitely trade Tabata for Cabrera if Hughes/Kennedy/Joba don’t have to be included. I’d probably trade AJax if the trioka don’t have to be included.
Miggy Cabrera is a once in a lifetime bat. Tabata/Jackson are still suspects at the moment.
I read that the Marlins wanted two of our 3 pitchers and Melky. No way would i do that. These G.M.’s always seem to ask for the moon when it comes to the Yanks. Its like we are being blackballed every year. Marlins always seem to do give their players for less to other teams. Watch Cabrera go somewhere for a lesser prospect than Ian,let alone two of our guys.
DMan …..I’ll say it is slightly better than getting shelled…..think of the “stage” he is on….oh, and by the way….Bah-Humbug !
I’m praying for you guys Action and Tabata, I’m seriously praying for you, the lynch mob is back again
Shamus – you can’t just throw in $5-7 mil when you’re trading 4 players making the mimimum. Money is thrown in when you’re trading away a high salary player and are sending money to the acquiring team to help offset the cost of that player. There are some rules about money being involved in deals and Selig having to approve deals when more than a certain amount is involved. And that’s just the first thing absurd about your “equation”...
If Cabrera was a free agent, what would his market look like?
probably between arod and soriano.
“it’s making me sick listening to FATCESSA and FRUITY LOOPS leading the brigade yeh the Yankees should trade Tabata in a deal and Cabrera would be the right deal, he’s 19 you fat idiot, I swear the only thing he knows about the Yankees is Bernie Williams.”
A caller this afternoon asked them about Alan Horne. It was obvious that they had never even heard of Horne.
ZomgLOLzzzzzz!!!!
Theresea sorry if I offended you, blogmaster!
Karsten said he was very impressed to see how popular Chien-Ming is when he walked into a McDonald’s and saw his big portrait poster hanging in there. And everybody knows he is a teamate of Chien-Ming Wang.