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	<title>Comments on: Open market beckons Posada and Rivera</title>
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		<title>By: torrey</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/11/open-market-beckons-posada-and-rivera/comment-page-3/#comment-194402</link>
		<dc:creator>torrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not discount the fact that he is a power hitting switch hitter.  Having Jorge in the lineup doesn&#039;t allow the opposing manager to use one relief pitcher to get through 3 or 4 batters in a row.  Why can&#039;t he play first when he is done behind the plate?  He could definitely be a DH.  Give him the 4 years and buy some time to get a replacement for when that day comes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not discount the fact that he is a power hitting switch hitter.  Having Jorge in the lineup doesn&#8217;t allow the opposing manager to use one relief pitcher to get through 3 or 4 batters in a row.  Why can&#8217;t he play first when he is done behind the plate?  He could definitely be a DH.  Give him the 4 years and buy some time to get a replacement for when that day comes.</p>
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		<title>By: YankeeInMichigan</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/11/open-market-beckons-posada-and-rivera/comment-page-2/#comment-194336</link>
		<dc:creator>YankeeInMichigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t heard anything concrete, but I could not imagine Dave Dombrowski not making an aggressive effort to get Rivera.  He&#039;s got a team in win-now mode and his bullpen is in shambles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard anything concrete, but I could not imagine Dave Dombrowski not making an aggressive effort to get Rivera.  He&#8217;s got a team in win-now mode and his bullpen is in shambles.</p>
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		<title>By: Drive 4-5</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/11/open-market-beckons-posada-and-rivera/comment-page-2/#comment-194192</link>
		<dc:creator>Drive 4-5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoa,

Being a person who does quality control work for a living, I know all about sample size. Using 100% of Francisco Cervelli&#039;s professional at bats, including Winter Ball,  as a sample size he has hit one home run per every 109.5 at bats (4 home runs in 438 at bats). Is that an accurate enough sample size for you? 

As for power being the last tool to develop,I&#039;m fully aware that is the norm. However,in an interview on scout.com Cervelli labels himself a &quot;contact hitter&quot;. 

The very reason the Yanks are trying to convert Cervelli to become a catcher because they don&#039;t have many catching prospects in their system. Prior to 2007,he was a 3rd baseman and shortstop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoa,</p>
<p>Being a person who does quality control work for a living, I know all about sample size. Using 100% of Francisco Cervelli&#8217;s professional at bats, including Winter Ball,  as a sample size he has hit one home run per every 109.5 at bats (4 home runs in 438 at bats). Is that an accurate enough sample size for you? </p>
<p>As for power being the last tool to develop,I&#8217;m fully aware that is the norm. However,in an interview on scout.com Cervelli labels himself a &#8220;contact hitter&#8221;. </p>
<p>The very reason the Yanks are trying to convert Cervelli to become a catcher because they don&#8217;t have many catching prospects in their system. Prior to 2007,he was a 3rd baseman and shortstop.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/11/open-market-beckons-posada-and-rivera/comment-page-2/#comment-194183</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To cashman:
Give Jorge whatever he want stay him and Mo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To cashman:<br />
Give Jorge whatever he want stay him and Mo.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/11/open-market-beckons-posada-and-rivera/comment-page-2/#comment-194173</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Torre â€“

Yeah I think if we have to overpay Jorge now b/c of Cashman&#039;s mistake in the spring. I really think Jorge offers a lot of intangibles that make him worth more than the &quot;market price&quot; for a good catcher, even at his age. Yankees really can&#039;t afford more personnel disaster at this point. If they need to overpay Jorge by $5-10mill to stop the bleeding, they need to just suck it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torre â€“</p>
<p>Yeah I think if we have to overpay Jorge now b/c of Cashman&#8217;s mistake in the spring. I really think Jorge offers a lot of intangibles that make him worth more than the &#8220;market price&#8221; for a good catcher, even at his age. Yankees really can&#8217;t afford more personnel disaster at this point. If they need to overpay Jorge by $5-10mill to stop the bleeding, they need to just suck it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Torre, Torre, Torre</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/11/open-market-beckons-posada-and-rivera/comment-page-2/#comment-194162</link>
		<dc:creator>Torre, Torre, Torre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrea-

you just don&#039;t pay $15 million dollars for a back-up!

okay, just kidding.

Dee- I think we agree.  Overpay for Jorge, considering he&#039;s been underpaid in baseball terms,  just give us some flexibility in the 4th year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrea-</p>
<p>you just don&#8217;t pay $15 million dollars for a back-up!</p>
<p>okay, just kidding.</p>
<p>Dee- I think we agree.  Overpay for Jorge, considering he&#8217;s been underpaid in baseball terms,  just give us some flexibility in the 4th year.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t Jorge be a back up once he gets older? Why would that be a huge problem? He&#039;s a great clubhouse presence, and he&#039;d be great to have around to bring in whoever the new guy will be.

And if anyone says &quot;you don&#039;t pay blah blah dollars for a back up,&quot; I just might scream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t Jorge be a back up once he gets older? Why would that be a huge problem? He&#8217;s a great clubhouse presence, and he&#8217;d be great to have around to bring in whoever the new guy will be.</p>
<p>And if anyone says &#8220;you don&#8217;t pay blah blah dollars for a back up,&#8221; I just might scream.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Giambi&#039;s extra year was a mistake, but I think Jorge brings additional value to the team that Giambi doesn&#039;t. In Giambi, you had a power hitter. In Jorge, you have a great catcher, a good hitter, and additional value as mentor and team leader that does not decline when he&#039;s passed his physical prime. Also if we lose Jorge now there is sure to be collateral damage (effects on Andy&#039;s decision, fan morale, team PR). 

All this for one more year at extra $13-15mil instead of the $23mil for Jason. I think there&#039;s a difference here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Giambi&#8217;s extra year was a mistake, but I think Jorge brings additional value to the team that Giambi doesn&#8217;t. In Giambi, you had a power hitter. In Jorge, you have a great catcher, a good hitter, and additional value as mentor and team leader that does not decline when he&#8217;s passed his physical prime. Also if we lose Jorge now there is sure to be collateral damage (effects on Andy&#8217;s decision, fan morale, team PR). </p>
<p>All this for one more year at extra $13-15mil instead of the $23mil for Jason. I think there&#8217;s a difference here.</p>
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		<title>By: Torre, Torre, Torre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torre, Torre, Torre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dee-

It&#039;s not reasonable to demand the Yankees make the same mistake the Mets are willing to make.

Again, I&#039;d be willing to offer a 4th year, club option.  But I don&#039;t want to carry dead weight againg (Giambi).  One of the main reasons Giambi signed with us, instead of staying with his brother in Oakland, was Big Stein offer an additional year at $23 million.  Oakland took a lot of heat, but in the end, they lucked out by not caving into an inflexible contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dee-</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not reasonable to demand the Yankees make the same mistake the Mets are willing to make.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;d be willing to offer a 4th year, club option.  But I don&#8217;t want to carry dead weight againg (Giambi).  One of the main reasons Giambi signed with us, instead of staying with his brother in Oakland, was Big Stein offer an additional year at $23 million.  Oakland took a lot of heat, but in the end, they lucked out by not caving into an inflexible contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete â€“

When Jorge signs, can we celebrate by getting an edit button? we need one real bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete â€“</p>
<p>When Jorge signs, can we celebrate by getting an edit button? we need one real bad.</p>
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