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Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Nov 14, 2007 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees made Mariano Rivera a big offer and are waiting on a response. Mike Lowell also is in play now.

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The tabloids have “A-Rod could possibly, maybe, return to the Yankees” stories today.” This is the story that will not go away, it seems, no matter what the Yankees say.

In theory, Alex could come to the Yankees and volunteer to eat the $21.3 million the Yankees are losing from Texas. In theory, aliens could land in Central Park as well.

But doing that would be a complete reversal for A-Rod. I find it hard to believe that he walked away from a $200 million deal from the Yankees (at least) without knowing he could get more someplace else. That the Angels are the only team to suggest signing jim seems telling. Every other team has expressed at least some reservation.

But Alex sells papers, always has. In a market where there must be a baseball story every day, he’ll be a story until he actually signs with another team.

Make book on this: If A-Rod actually does his MVP conference call on Monday, he will throw open the door to the Yankees. Why wouldn’t he? Just the perception that he could return to the Yankees helps them.

I was right on top of that, huh?

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  1. Brandon (I want Arod but fire Boras first, please land me a Kazmir) November 14th, 2007 at 9:25 am

    COME BACK ALEX !!! But leave Bor-RRRRRRat at home !!!

  2. Jersey November 14th, 2007 at 9:38 am

    Guess that vacation didn’t last long, eh Pete? I kid, I kid.

  3. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 9:38 am

    If he even takes that conference call it would be revealing. But I think he will.

    Winning the MVP and the timing of the call is really good news for A-Rod in terms of his negotiations. It’s free publicity, something he didn’t have to arrange and it’s an opportunity to remind teams who may be hesitating what caliber of player he is.

  4. Phil November 14th, 2007 at 9:39 am

    Let’s see what happens. The richest team in baseball has a need for a righty bat and a 3B.

  5. ND Yank November 14th, 2007 at 9:41 am

    Phil
    November 14th, 2007 at 9:39 am
    Let’s see what happens. The richest team in baseball has a need for a righty bat and a 3B.

    Makes too much sense Phil.

  6. mel November 14th, 2007 at 9:42 am

    Thanks, Pete, for the sensible, responsible reporting that you do.

    The guys at the Post got the notion that the door is still open to Alex just because Hank said, “Whether something did happen or not, I am not going to comment on that situation.”

    A-rod’s not dropping the price for anyone, that’s not in their DNA. Maybe a compromise of less years, higher per annum? Find out who the highest paid athlete in sports is to get an estimate. Maybe Tiger, including all his endorsements?

    Like I said yesterday, it’s not the $21M. That’s a drop in the bucket and barely what they spent on Roger. It’s the principle of the whole thing. In fact, why should Alex even expect the Yankees to give him the time of day? Oh, yeah, he’s the best baseball player in history.

    I still can’t picture him coming back to the table. Wouldn’t that look desperate because the market clearly wasn’t what they thought it would be?

  7. Charlie Hayes for 3B! November 14th, 2007 at 9:42 am

    Have a good vacation Pete! I guess I’ll have to actually try and sell some insurance now.

  8. raymagnetic November 14th, 2007 at 9:46 am

    How bout Tony Clark for 1B?

  9. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 9:47 am

    In the last month Arod has:

    Purchased Shaq’s Star Island home in Miami Beach for between 25-27 million dollars.

    Purchased a new Gulfstream IV Jet for 45 million dollars.

    He can’t afford to leave money on the table! lol

  10. Brandon (I want Arod but fire Boras first, please land me a Kazmir) November 14th, 2007 at 9:48 am

    How bout Tony Clark for 1B?

    swing and a miss from 2004, pass

  11. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 9:48 am

    Buster on MO: Spoke to several agents and executives with rival teams Tuesday who are surprised that Rivera is hesitating as he decides whether to accept that offer.

  12. Doreen November 14th, 2007 at 9:48 am

    You know, Phil, when you think about it logically, the Yankees’ need for ARod is probably greater than anyone else’s. And for certain, the Yankees would be courting ARod if the scenario were not what it is. But, it is what it is, so we’ll all just have to tune in tomorrow…and tomorrow…and tomorrow…the saga continues.

  13. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 9:48 am

    “The guys at the Post got the notion that the door is still open to Alex just because Hank said, “Whether something did happen or not, I am not going to comment on that situation.””

    considering Hank comments on every minutia of every single topic, i think his silence IS actually telling here.

    i bet the door has been opened, just a tiny little CRACK, for Alex to return.

    there really is a possibility that Boras closed a door with the Yankees that Alex didn’t want closed. re-opening it would take some serious concessions on his part. it seems unlikely, but stranger things have happened.

    it’s possible that the Angels were prepared to blow him away with an offer, but simply changed their minds when the Marlins put Cabrera on the market.

    who knows? so many possibilities. and so much DRAMA, which is par for the course with A-Rod.

    but i would guess that the possibility of A-Rod returning has increased from .01% to 2% in the last few days.

  14. mel November 14th, 2007 at 9:53 am

    hmmm,

    I could take another year or two of Alex’s drama, but 10 or 12 years? I want to watch baseball, not “The Bold and the Beautiful”!

  15. Nud November 14th, 2007 at 9:53 am

    Yanks need Arod and Arod needs the Yanks………This will get done eventually and all sides will save face……like someone said, “It makes too much sense” Especially since the Yanks are pretty barren in terms positional players (close to the Bigs) I didn’t like reading these quotes about everyones beloved Austin Jackson and B Gardner-

    One National League scout who was assigned to the Yankees’ minor league system this season rated their best position player prospects as outfielders Brett Gardner, a singles hitter who stole 18 bases at Double-A Trenton, and Austin Jackson, the converted football project who had 13 homers and 59 RBI in 127 games in A-ball. “But neither one of them,” he added, “would I consider top tier. They both have holes

    OUCH!!

  16. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 9:54 am

    I don’t understand what Mo is looking for either. The Yankees are already looking to pay him an insane amount for a closer. He won’t get that on the open market. The Yankees should hold firm to thier 3/45 offer.

  17. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 9:55 am

    “Buster on MO: Spoke to several agents and executives with rival teams Tuesday who are surprised that Rivera is hesitating as he decides whether to accept that offer”

    that’s because, unlike Posada, he will get LESS on the open market.

    this offer is a clear overpayment. and while i am ultimately OK with it b/c i love Mo, part of me thinks they should rescind the offer and let him find out his market value on his own. it won’t be 3 years, $45M that’s for sure.

    however, this is the real world, not fantasy baseball, and if they did that, he would probably take less money somewhere else just to stick it to them.

    just take the offer Mo so we can all go back to our delusional bubbles where we believe the only athlete in the world looking for max dollars is named Alex Rodriguez, and where you are the humble closer who said 2 contracts ago you were going to retire and become a minister.

  18. raymagnetic November 14th, 2007 at 9:56 am

    One National League scout who was assigned to the Yankees’ minor league system this season rated their best position player prospects as outfielders Brett Gardner, a singles hitter who stole 18 bases at Double-A Trenton, and Austin Jackson

    Nud, that NL scout must have never heard of Jose Tabata who’s considered the Yanks best positional prospect. Therefore I would take what he said with a grain of salt.

  19. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 9:56 am

    “I could take another year or two of Alex’s drama, but 10 or 12 years? I want to watch baseball, not “The Bold and the Beautiful”!”

    good point.

    but i’d sign up for 6 more years of it with an option for a 7th ;)!!

  20. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 9:58 am

    As far as Alex goes I would offer him 5/100 or maybe 6/120. I certainly wouldn’t go over 6 years, and for the amount that he is looking for. All is too quiet on that front, I don’t think they have the suiters that Borass thought they would.

  21. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 9:58 am

    “I could take another year or two of Alex’s drama, but 10 or 12 years? I want to watch baseball, not “The Bold and the Beautiful”!”

    In 12 year Arod might still be bold, but beautiful?!

  22. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 9:58 am

    “Nud, that NL scout must have never heard of Jose Tabata who’s considered the Yanks best positional prospect. Therefore I would take what he said with a grain of salt.”

    i would also take it with a grain of salt b/c Austin Jackson played BASKETBALL, not football.

  23. mel November 14th, 2007 at 10:00 am

    SJ44,

    What’s the saying, “Don’t count your chickens before they hatch? Either Alex has some serious dough (no duh) or he already has a deal in place. ;)

    raymagnetic,

    Tony Clark’s eyes are scary. We’ve filled the scary eyes quota with our current third baseman.

    migames,

    I love Mo as much as the next person, but his pissed off athlete act is getting old. One factor is that he may be mad about how the club is treating Alex. But that shouldn’t get in the way of business, and they are treating Mo with the utmost respect. I don’t see how he can be insulted with that offer. Speaking of, I can’t believe that Mo pulled the ‘there’s always Joe and the Dodgers’ card. Who’s that? The latest alternative rock band? Hold firm, Hank!!

  24. pat November 14th, 2007 at 10:01 am

    hmmmmm
    who knows? so many possibilities. and so much DRAMA, which is par for the course with A-Rod.

    What’s amazing to me is that the drama continues to spin even though A-Rod hasn’t publicly said a word in 5 weeks and Boras hasn’t commented publicly on anything A-Rod since before the GM meetings. Everyone seems to know what he’s thinking, what he wants or what he will do when he has given no indications on any of it. The concept of “A-Rod” doesn’t need the person of Alex Rodriguez to even be involved in the debate.

  25. J-Dawg November 14th, 2007 at 10:07 am

    I would imagine that Mo is getting ready to respond to the offer. He will look around at other offers, but he won’t find another one like that. He’s just following Cuza’s orders to look around, nothing more.

    The best thing that could happen to Rodriguez obviously, is that the Marlins either trade Miguel Cabrera or take him completely off of the market. I think that there will be a renewal of the old rivalry of the Giants and Dodgers for Rodriguez’s services. Until then, Boras and Rodriguez are practically begging the Marlins to do something with Cabrera. There has definitely been an effect on Rodriguez’s market with Cabrera being available.

  26. Thurman November 14th, 2007 at 10:12 am

    Slam the door on A-Rod.

    Sign Lowell. He is automatically a better glove and a better teammate, and he was originally a Yankee. He’ll be better than Scott Brosius, and who could ask for anything more?

    He also puts the Red Sox in the pickle of needing a 3B-man, and their best option will be putting Youkilis back on 3B.

    Ha!

  27. pat November 14th, 2007 at 10:14 am

    jennifer
    you have no future as a successful GM. any team who doesn’t lock A-Rod up for 7 years minimum is letting him try to break a HR record possibly wearing another uniform. If a team is going to make a financial commitment during the chase, they are going to want to be there for the payoff.

  28. Paul9 November 14th, 2007 at 10:19 am

    Pete we need you back on if any of the stuff in daily news or the post is true.

  29. Rebecca--Optimist Prime November 14th, 2007 at 10:21 am

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we found out about Mo before the end of the day.

  30. -------- November 14th, 2007 at 10:21 am

    From Pete Caldera of The Record.

    But a three-year, $45 million offer is so far unacceptable to the Rivera camp, which is said to be seeking $50 million for the closer’s last long-term contract.

    45 million is already too much; let him walk. Cincinnati will give him 40 million and he can languish there

  31. Paul9 November 14th, 2007 at 10:22 am

    Lowell will be a complete bust. He will not hit over 280 at the stadium. Also we would have to give him an extra year which at that point he will be another burden to the team. I can’t see him being a good fit at all.

  32. Miller November 14th, 2007 at 10:23 am

    I have a feeling the ROD is coming back….

  33. JL November 14th, 2007 at 10:25 am

    Someone check on Peter. He’s probably on a stretcher some where hooked to an IV. We all know the last thing he wants is to see Alex back. It’s going to be OK Pete. Come down from that ledge. The possibility is very minimal.

    On that note:

    ALEX, WE STILL WANT YOU. COME BACK TO US!!!!!!!!

  34. Brandon (I want Arod but fire Boras first, please land me a Kazmir) November 14th, 2007 at 10:30 am

    I told you guys !!!!

    Bill Madden confirming it on WFAN Arod pissed w/ Boras and wants to come back to the Yankees, Madden saids it would have to be under the Yankees term, Alex is going behind Boras’s back, Alex will represent himself, Yankees do not want Boras in the same room, Alex will meet soon w/ Hank.

  35. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 10:30 am

    arod should pay boris under the table – publicly fire his agent and sign a 10 year contact… If he does this correctly – his people could spin this and look great…

    This is turning int a Grisham Novel

  36. Jay Yankees November 14th, 2007 at 10:31 am

    AAAAAA FRaud…..AAAAAA Fraud. We don’t need you!!
    Pleeease Lord, don’t let it happen.
    Sign Lowell already and let’s move on without that fraudster.

  37. Brandon (I want Arod but fire Boras first, please land me a Kazmir) November 14th, 2007 at 10:32 am

    SCREW LOWELL !!!! COME BACK HOME ALEX !!!

  38. long time November 14th, 2007 at 10:37 am

    get a life guys Arod is not coming back!!!!!!!!!!!
    Deal with it.

  39. GreenBeret7 November 14th, 2007 at 10:37 am

    Thurman
    November 14th, 2007 at 10:12 am
    Slam the door on A-Rod.

    Sign Lowell. He is automatically a better glove and a better teammate, and he was originally a Yankee. He’ll be better than Scott Brosius, and who could ask for anything more?

    He also puts the Red Sox in the pickle of needing a 3B-man, and their best option will be putting Youkilis back on 3B.

    Ha!
    ____________________________________________________________

    No, Boston’s best option would be Alex Rodriguez at third. Pedroia, Youkilis, Ortiz, Ramirez and Rodriguez in order would be murderous.

  40. Brandon (I want Arod but fire Boras first, please land me a Kazmir) November 14th, 2007 at 10:39 am

    long time
    November 14th, 2007 at 10:37 am
    get a life guys Arod is not coming back!!!!!!!!!!!
    Deal with it.

    if your listening to WFAN right now you’ll find out how wrong you are ;)

  41. Count of Montefusco November 14th, 2007 at 10:40 am

    The Bronx is not Alex’s “home.”

    He and his lip gloss will do perfectly well in Anaheim.

    Incidentally, if we sign Lowell (whatever one’s opinion of him), the Red Sox would almost certainly go hard after A-Rod. I don’t want to see that.

  42. long time November 14th, 2007 at 10:41 am

    Oh i forgot if the Fan says it must be true. Bill Madden is still drunk from last night, he is about as connected to the team as any of of us. Just trying to sell papers

  43. Rebecca--Optimist Prime November 14th, 2007 at 10:42 am

    I do not want A-Rod back…but we did get Posada back and hopefully we’ll get Mo back…

  44. pat November 14th, 2007 at 10:42 am

    With all the rumors swirling, if the Yanks sign Lowell before A-Rod declines arbitration they risk paying $41 million dollars and having 2 third basemen for at least a year.

  45. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 10:42 am

    If Arod is “going behind Boras’ back”, how come Madden knows about it and is broadcasting it to the world?

    Seems that would go against going behind one’s back, wouldn’t it?

    Clearly, something is up or the usually quotable Hank Steinbrenner wouldn’t be issuing no comments.

    I just don’t think anybody is going behind anybody’s back.

  46. Idiot Police November 14th, 2007 at 10:42 am

    LOL Lowell sucks I can’t believe some of you people. Yeah, let’s sign Mike Lowell (who is two years removed from hitting .236/.298/.360 only to be revived by Fenway) and in the process give BOSTON two additional draft picks. Brilliant thinking, get a clue.

  47. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 10:45 am

    if it turns out that he is willing to make consesions because he wants to be a yankee i would welcome him back with open arms… It would have to be a press conference where it comes out as being heartfelt.

    He has know Boras since he is 17. That is a long time – perhaps boras has a bit too much influence and he is realizing it…

    I am an arod fan – BUT if he does not want to be a yankee, he can go elsewhere.

  48. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 10:46 am

    Madden usually gets his information from the Steinbrenners, so trust the source. Remember how premature Madden was a year ago when he said Torre was gone. That wasn’t necessarily wrong at the time, as George’s mind was changed. At the time Madden reported it, it was accurate.

    Madden is correct.

  49. Brandon (I want Arod but fire Boras first, please land me a Kazmir) November 14th, 2007 at 10:46 am

    ALEX FIRE BOR-RRRRRAT YOU DON’T NEED HIM ANYMORE

  50. Dr. Hunter November 14th, 2007 at 10:46 am

    Arod will be a Yankee beleive it or not Mo will resign. Business as usual get bullpen help and we will be fine for the future

  51. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 10:47 am

    PETE – do we know if Madden is an a-rod guy… i know alex talks to some media more than others…

    Do we know if there is a relationship between madden and boras?

  52. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 10:47 am

    Before you get carried away with Madden’s breaking news Brandon, accuracy has not been his strong suit re: the Yankees the last two years.

    To recap:

    He had the Yankees firing Torre last year….only to have to issue a mea culpa on that one.

    Had Don Mattingly being named manager this year. Whoops.

    And today, had Austin Jackson being a former FOOTBALL player, when getting an scouting report (and an inaccurate one that) from his NL scout “friend”.

    Jackson was a basketball player in HS, who turned down a scholarship to play point guard at Georgia Tech to sign with the Yankees. He never played football.

    Doesn’t mean he isn’t correct on this one. However, given his recent high profile misses, I’d refrain from using his words as gospel re: Arod.

  53. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 10:47 am

    Than Alex better make sure to fire Borass. Otherwise he could come after him for commission.

  54. Truth for Freedom November 14th, 2007 at 10:48 am

    If the Yankees sign Lowell it will complete the repeat of history… as in when the Yankees let Reggie go.

    Lowell had a career year. Let Boston re-sign him and have to deal with his lack of production. Lowell has had one single year over .300, this past year. He is getting older and he was let go because he was doing poorly. He isn’t another Ortiz unless he is on the juice.

    One thing about rumors, when there are this many of them floating around, there is some truth to it. At the very least that “closed door” is opening.

  55. YankeesLuv November 14th, 2007 at 10:52 am

    I trust Madden, just because usually he get’s his info directly from the Steinbrenners.
    Bring him back! I don’t like the options that have been mentioned to replace Arod. The Yankees need Arod, Arod needs the Yankees, it’s mutual. Let’s get it done!

  56. Truth for Freedom November 14th, 2007 at 10:54 am

    Jennifer, even if Boras got fired he would still get his money from A-Rod. He will bring him to court if need be, and prove that A-Rod’s value was driven up by him.

    What difference does it make who his agent is? Most teams have to deal with Boras anyway.

    The pitching staff the Yankees have lined up for 2008 will need some offense to cover up their lack of experience. Especially if Andy retires. There are two choices to fill that hole. A-Rod or Cabrera. One of those choices costs money, but talents don’t go elsewhere. One will cost heavily in talents. Which do you think is the better way to go?

  57. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 10:54 am

    If you where signing Lowell it would be for his defense… I would not count on him hitting for average in the stadium. Some would say that he is a Fenway hitter…

    I dont like him. He practically killed the whole right side of our infield last year – They should have put a couple fastballs into his ribs for the concussion and the near concussion he almost laid on cano

  58. Brandon (I want Arod but fire Boras first, please land me a Kazmir) November 14th, 2007 at 10:57 am

    “We will not negotiate with Scott Boras,” a Yankees source said. “He cannot be in the room.”

    The Yankees are also aware that Boras could convince Rodriguez to stop the talks. “We realize it could be a trap to get us back in the negotiations,” said one Yankee official. “But we don’t think that’s the case.”

  59. long time November 14th, 2007 at 10:58 am

    Well, Boras got what he wanted the perception that the Yankees are back bidding for Arod. Anyone believing this dribble is a idot. Boy i give Boras a lot of credit he is better than i thought

  60. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 11:00 am

    A-rod finally started handling new york last year… i know his playoff numbers are pathetic (post redsox series) but atleast we know he can handle new york in the regular season. YOU could trade for cabrera and it could turn out he cant handle new york.

    Same thing with Yohan. Look at Vasquez,brown,and the big unic,kenny rogers, any pitcher we got from the braves

    going back
    Tartabull – (yuck)
    jack clark

  61. Joe from Long Island November 14th, 2007 at 11:01 am

    Look, guys, business is business, and anything is possible. Sure, Alex and his representatives (Boras and co.) might be talking quietly to the Yankees about how sorry they are. But how serious are they?

    Look at the history. ARod has been with Boras since he was 16-17. They are co-owners of ARod, Inc. They have always gone for the money, and more is better as far as they are concerned. Are we to believe that ARod is now going to turn his back on his surrogate father and give a discount? Especially with the way he appears to be going through $$$ (see SJ44′s post above).

    I don’t blame the Yankees for pausing to give this a second look. But I would think they would be very wary of being used to drive ARod’s price up. I don’t think Hank appreciates being played for a sucker.

  62. Propaghandi November 14th, 2007 at 11:02 am

    A-Rod is the only intelligent choice.

    Lowell 2007 was a fluke. He will not repeat his stats in 2008. Signing him to 4 years would be disastrous.

    Trading for Cabrera 1 year before he becomes a free agent would be foolish.

    A-Rod is the best player in the game.

    Anyone who thinks guys like Cabrera and Santana, who have no trade clauses, will allow themselves to be dealt the year before they become free agents and gain the ability to truly test the market are devoid of anything remotely resembling logic.

    Yankees sign A-Rod, make no other trades, dump massive payroll after 2008, and then go get a few #1 quality starting pitchers and perhaps a 1B or OF (Curtis Granderson anyone?) via free agency after the 2008 season.

  63. Miller November 14th, 2007 at 11:02 am

    Hey Brandon….

    How ya doing?? Wink, Wink

  64. Jax November 14th, 2007 at 11:03 am

    Evan Roberts thinks that maybe Arod name is on the list and that could be a reason why he wants to come back.

  65. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 11:09 am

    i would not doubt it… You would be a fool not to take juice during this era..

    This is not a your local high school kid shooting mexican animal steroids…

    These guys are getting human grade testosterone, they are getting there blood work done regularly. They are not going ape sh!t with dosages…

  66. Brandon (I want Arod but fire Boras first, please land me a Kazmir) November 14th, 2007 at 11:09 am

    Miller, I’m doing good now ;)

  67. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 11:09 am

    The most humorous part about this story may be listening to MMD this afternoon proclaim:

    Russo: “That will NEVER happen… A-Rod’s not coming back (because he wants the Giants to sign them).

    Fran-excess: “I knew this was going on a few days ago…”

  68. Miller November 14th, 2007 at 11:10 am

    Where are my props???????

    hahaha, Im just kidding. Ill keep quiet until a dotted line is signed.

  69. Blog Police November 14th, 2007 at 11:12 am

    Steinbro’s:
    Say NO to the former Plastic Jesus in Pinstripes!

  70. Count of Montefusco November 14th, 2007 at 11:16 am

    “human grade testosterone”

    ??

  71. B November 14th, 2007 at 11:17 am

    If Mariano really wants more than $45 million then I think we have to let him walk. I can’t see any other team giving him more than that. Anyone have any info on what Cordero is looking for?

  72. Nud November 14th, 2007 at 11:19 am

    Best chance for the Yanks to win next yr is to sign AROD-would make it much easier to complete a deal for Johan, Haren etc..nothing like getting an all star player without having to trade away bluechip prospects!!

  73. Buddy Biancalana November 14th, 2007 at 11:20 am

    Cordero has received a 4 year offer, don’t know how much, maybe 40M, most likely from the Astros.

  74. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 11:21 am

    yum… arod kool aid.

  75. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 11:23 am

    “human grade testosterone”

    believe it or not, alot of bodybuilders get foreign juice that is animal grade because of prices, as you would think – there are not as many quality controls on this stuf… And they get sick, and then that news gets in the papers…

    next thing you know our govt is putting steroids in the same class as heroin…

  76. pounder November 14th, 2007 at 11:25 am

    Hey El Comaduce

    You forgot to mention Steve Kemp and Jim Ray Hart,and the Toy Cannon,and Jose Canseco etc etc etc

  77. Lanny November 14th, 2007 at 11:25 am

    The Yanks need Right handed power and a 3b.

    Hmmmmm

    Where do you find that guy???

  78. Miller November 14th, 2007 at 11:26 am

    I realize Cordero is a good closer. But do you think he would ever consider becoming a set up man?

  79. pat November 14th, 2007 at 11:26 am

    Mark Feinsand was just on ESPN2. Said A-Rod will be talking with Yankees and back room conversations have already taken place. Said he would have to eat the 21 million from Texas in order for the deal to get done because the Yankees said that was the only sticking point all along. Said A-Rod always wanted to be a Yankee and has not been happy with how Boras handled everything. Said he expects A-Rod back in pinstripes for 08. Said Mariano is the top priority right now but an A-Rod deal could probably be done rather quickly.

  80. John Long Island November 14th, 2007 at 11:27 am

    You mean Evan “Screech” Roberts?

  81. Eric November 14th, 2007 at 11:28 am

    Hey Miller,

    It’s not about what what Cordero or any player wants. It’s about what the team wants.

  82. B November 14th, 2007 at 11:30 am

    “I realize Cordero is a good closer. But do you think he would ever consider becoming a set up man?”

    Doesn’t make financial sense for him to accept a non-closing role.

  83. Buddy Biancalana November 14th, 2007 at 11:32 am

    I don’t believe Cordero would ever setup, especially after last year, he is ready to cash in. The only way is he signs with a team & then falters & has to work his way backup to closing.

  84. Nud November 14th, 2007 at 11:32 am

    Cordero is soooo overrated…….He puts on 2 base runners per inning…..he had a great start to last yr saving like the first 20 plus games in a row but was just ok in the 2nd half…..He better stay in the NL as he was torched with Texas which lead to him being dealt to the BrewCrew. Any team that gets Cordero will probably get 2 good yrs but a 4 yr deal for him is nuts..He isnt that good folks

  85. Eric November 14th, 2007 at 11:34 am

    It’s not about what Cordero will do.

    You think he’d refuse to play baseball because he wants to close and he wouldn’t pitch the 8th inning in NY?

    Octavio Dotel bombed in NY in the set up role and he still got 5 mil +.

  86. Buddy Biancalana November 14th, 2007 at 11:35 am

    Nud, I agree, he should stay in the NL, the AL will light him up, like when he was with Texas.

  87. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 11:36 am

    There are so few decent closers in the league… I could name 10+ guys i would love to have as my ace… But maybe 3-4 closers

  88. mel November 14th, 2007 at 11:36 am

    Really? Feinsand said all that? Did anyone say why Alex refused to speak to any of his teammates/Yankee officials in the last month?

    I don’t care if the Yankees help drive up the price as long as they’re not stuck with the bill at the end.

    BTW, no way on God’s green Earth is Alex going to fire Boras. Even though he would have a case against him. I do believe that bonehead moves is cause for termination of contract.

    BBTW, Alex is due for a pretty nice check when he wins the MVP. $1.5M for his 3rd MVP. I’d like to see the Yankees hold a big press conference to present a big cardboard check. “Alex was unable to make it today. He said he has a previous engagement in Los Angeles. We want to congratulate Alex for his great 2007 MVP season.”

  89. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 11:37 am

    I bet I am like 70% of the Yankee fans that do not want arod back.. WE ARE TIRED OF HIM AND THE CIRCUS..

    Bye arod go away.. bring the titles to your next team…he is a nicer version of marbury… I am wrong sorry arod has won a few playoff games during his stat laden career.

    i do not want him around and the circus that follows him…go away arod….fir the kiddies that post here it is true you can actually win titles without allstars at every position and with some guys who make less then $5 mill a yr…..

    yeah arod is so upset at boras he is still his agent… for a good laguh listen to the press conference after he wins the mvp on monday that should be a real comedy filed with alot of truth, honesty, and heartfelt comments…

    arod is such a phony it is mindboggling that you great judges of character cannot see it… yeah yeah yeah he has great stats etc., so WHAT!!!!!!!

  90. Buddy Biancalana November 14th, 2007 at 11:37 am

    Eric-

    If you pay Cordero 40M for 4 years, he would setup.

  91. LathamJoe November 14th, 2007 at 11:38 am

    I am among those that believe its a ploy by ARod/Boras to bring the Yankees back into the picture so they can inflate potential offers. They seriously over-estimated the market and under-estimated the Yankee Front Office’s resolve in taking a stand on the ‘opt out” ultimatum.

    “LaLa Land” – either the Angels or Dodgers – is a natural fit for this Human Soap Opera.

  92. Crawling Back November 14th, 2007 at 11:38 am

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....their.html

    so the Daily News is a tabloid, huh ? Personally…crawling back is the only way it happens and it appears that is exactly the case. The Yankees WITH A-Rod are MUCH better than without A-Rod and having to give up youth to replace him. Also, don’t think for a minute that the Yankees won’t go HARD for Santana AND Pettite…A Rotation of Santana, Wang, Pettite, Chamberlain and either Hughes or Kennedy ( one will be going away in the trade for Santana ) with the lineup of sluggers including A-Rod and a surgically repaired Matsui, spells #27 in ’08 !!!

  93. Master Wangkee November 14th, 2007 at 11:38 am

    Arod and Boras will play the fans for fools as long as they can and AWOL’s Army will continue to torment the diehards. Please just sign with San Francisco and stop SCREWING UP our offseason harmony.

  94. Joe from Long Island November 14th, 2007 at 11:39 am

    ARod taking a discount to sign with a team would be unprecedented – and a big blow to Boras, as well as the Players Association.

    Remember how the PA blocked his going to Boston 4 years ago? How would they take his signing for a “downgraded” contract? Don’t you think there would be a lot of pressure exerted? And how would Boras look to his clients, present and future?

    There are a lot of layers to this, and any desire of ARod to play for the Yankees is only a part of it.

  95. Master Wangkee November 14th, 2007 at 11:41 am

    Peter A.

    Delete them! All of them! Please just make them go away!

  96. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 11:41 am

    “Said A-Rod always wanted to be a Yankee and has not been happy with how Boras handled everything. Said he expects A-Rod back in pinstripes for 08. Said Mariano is the top priority right now but an A-Rod deal could probably be done rather quickly.”

    i am not getting my hopes up, b/c this still feels like a huge longshot, but as a Yankee fan i would have no problem welcoming him back under these conditions.

    if this happened and he apologized for how things went down, i would accept it.

    some people would refuse to take him at his word, but i would believe it for one reason: he’d be talking with his wallet if he swallowed the Texas money and negotiated face to face with the Yankees.

    bring Alex back. keep the prospects. sign Mo. give Pettitte a 2009 option.

    gear up for the 2009 FA class.

  97. Motown Yankees Fan November 14th, 2007 at 11:42 am

    So, if A-Rod fires Boras and negotiates this new deal with the Yankees with the $21 million paycut, it’ll be a wash for Alex because he won’t have to pay Boras that money essentially.

    Count me in the camp that wants Alex back, psychodrama and all. And I know my heart is about to be broken, because that is what baseball does.

  98. B November 14th, 2007 at 11:42 am

    The closer role is so overrated. There was a great article in the NY Sun today by Steve Goldman that explained why Mo is far more expendable than a lot of people think. If he won’t take $45 million then we don’t need him.

  99. Eric November 14th, 2007 at 11:44 am

    I bet you were really tired of the circus stuart last yr when A-Rod had clutch hit after clutch hit and single handedly carried us on his back to 90+ wins.

    Really, stuart? You tired of that??

    What a bunch of phonies.

  100. Jeff in MA November 14th, 2007 at 11:44 am

    From Mel:

    “One factor is that he may be mad about how the club is treating Alex.”

    Is the club treating Alex badly? Last I knew, Cashman was being entirely true to his word about how they’d handle him. (I don’t have a pro- or anti-Alex bias, btw. I wish he hadn’t opted out, that’s all.)

    I think it’s more likely Mo doesn’t like how they treated Joe Torre. “There’s always Joe and the Dodgers” was a silly thing to say, but it was probably his way of expressing that he’d rather be playing for Joe T. than Joe G. next year.

  101. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 11:44 am

    Forget Cordero. He’s not any good and paying him 40 million for the Dominican version of Kyle Farnsworth isn’t going to make him any better.

    Before everybody turns on Mariano, how ’bout we wait and see if he turns down the deal.

    So far, nobody is saying is has turned down the deal. Only that he hasn’t repsonded to it.

    Who knows, maybe he is at Arod’s house helping him get his deal done with the Yankees.

  102. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 11:44 am

    I think that 70 percent would drop considerably if a-rod gave a heartfelt apology to the fans via a press conference…

    Plus it is not just a baseball issue. Alot of us

  103. Eric November 14th, 2007 at 11:45 am

    Yeah, the closer role is sooooo overrated.

    Ask Atlanta 92-2005 if its overrated.

    Ask the Indians if its overrated when they had Jose Mesa out there.

    Ask the Sox before they had Foulke and Papelbon.

    Give me a break. Not everyone can close.

  104. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 11:46 am

    I don’t buy into the inflating prices deal. I believe if the Yankees are going to do it – they’ll do it in a manner similar to Damon’s deal and the way Andru Jones hammered out his deal with the Braves. Take a day, say “here’s the deal.” Stay in the offices until 8pm and hammer out the details… and then take it or leave it. You walk away, we’re done and no more negotiating. You want to stay, sign right here.

    Then no market inflation and the FO knows for sure if Arod wants back in. Damon’s deal was dealt with in a similar fashion – limited time offer and good for only several hours. No dice, no contract. There will be no ploy to get the Yankees to inflate Arod’s already exorbant price tag.

  105. Andy A November 14th, 2007 at 11:46 am

    Come April 1 no one here will be complaining when A-Rod is hitting 4th instead of Mike Lamb or Pedro Feliz.

  106. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 11:46 am

    count me as one af the probably 70% who will be pissed if the CANCER IS BACK. I do not even need to say his name because you all know who the cancer is.

    The only way the cancer will be back is if he cannot get his $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ elsewhere.. you morons still go for the line he always wanted to be the yankee….Man you guys are fools…

    Yeah and arod has not spoken publicly for 3 weeks because?????????????? If any reporter with a brain could interview him they would make him look like a friggin phony pathetic liar…….

    the stat lover moron fans must be giddy that the empty suit may be back…

  107. mel November 14th, 2007 at 11:47 am

    Joe,

    You would think that Alex would gain a lot of respect if he did that. They look foolish hawking overpriced wares anyway. As for the other clients, I’d want Boras on my side getting me my due, but personally I’d be embarrassed by some of Boras’ actions and words. Boras has lost some of his shine and is a big joke to everyone but his clients, who are laughing all the way to the bank. But, there are plenty of good agents who have gotten big money for their clients. Boras is a necessary evil, but he’s still evil.

    Alex will never take an undervalued contract. It’s a status thing for him.

  108. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 11:47 am

    et tu SJ44? Stoking the arod flames eh?

  109. Tony NJ November 14th, 2007 at 11:48 am

    A-Rod is going to be back in pinstripes.

    Makes just too much sense.

  110. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 11:48 am

    How is his contract “under market”? It may be for less than what Boras wanted but, its hardly undermarket since, it would still be the largest contract (in AAV) in the game.

    Can’t argue collusion when the contract is #1 on the list.

    As far as Boras is concerned, IF (and I still don’t buy all of this stuff) Arod does this deal himself, he is still on the hook for paying Boras’ commission, per the ruling in the Boras V. Sheffield case a few years ago.

  111. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 11:48 am

    ale rodriguez and heartfelt anything is laughable..

    the guy has no heart that is the problem.. he is a ego maniac, narcissist, pathetic moron…..

    enjoy your $30 mill home, fancy crs, and jets, and all those titles………

    this guy is the ultimate empty suit………

  112. B November 14th, 2007 at 11:50 am

    Eric,

    The closer role is overrated in the way it is used during the regular season. Closers usage tends not be optimized because managers now manage for the imaginary save. Torre, like everyone else, was guilty of this during the regular season. Luckily, he didn’t use Mo the same way in the playoffs and actually brought him in earlier when the games were on the line.

    Here’s the Goldman article for those interested.
    http://www.nysun.com/article/66451

  113. Parker November 14th, 2007 at 11:50 am

    How is Boras evil?

    For putting a gun to the heads of teams and forcing them to “overpay”???

    For making his clients take the best deal they can???

    Name me one player who’s ever said a bad word about Boras.

    The guy is an exceptional agent. Stop buying into the leagues spin that he’s the anti-Christ for getting his guys top dollar.

  114. Sherri November 14th, 2007 at 11:50 am

    Is it possible to ink a contract that looks “undervalued,” but essentially has many incentive-based payments which could ultimately end up paying him much more?

  115. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 11:50 am

    “Remember how the PA blocked his going to Boston 4 years ago? How would they take his signing for a “downgraded” contract? Don’t you think there would be a lot of pressure exerted? And how would Boras look to his clients, present and future? ”

    complete apples and oranges. these two situations are in no way related.

    it is likely that the Yankees would still make him a large offer that would continue to make him the highest paid player in the majors. the Union would have no problem with that unless they had HARD evidence that another team was prepared to offer him substancially more, which is unlikely.

    A-Rod did get pressure from the union to sign with the Rangers, but that was b/c the Rangers’ offer was such a landmark contract. the union needed him to take that contrace b/c it raised the stakes for superstar contracts, with Jeter being the primary recipient.

    but the situation with Boston was completely different. they wanted him to lower the value of an EXISTING contract. and that is a strict NO-NO.

  116. Matty H November 14th, 2007 at 11:51 am

    How would the A-Rod contract be under valued???

    He’d still be the highest paid player in the game by far!

  117. B November 14th, 2007 at 11:51 am

    We’ve made the playoffs every year A-Rod has been on the team, so I guess he just starts spreading his cancer in October.

  118. Loren November 14th, 2007 at 11:52 am

    Who cares how much they pay him?????

    This is the same team that is paying Giambi 20 mil a yr, Pavano 10, Farnsworth 6, etc, etc

    And they are going to quibble over 21 mil???

    It’s just stupid.

    We are going to lose our best player in his prime because of 21 mill?

    Yeah right.

  119. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 11:53 am

    “Whatya gonna do? Nice college boy, eh? Don’t wanna get mixed up in the yankee business? Now you wanna fire the best agent in baseball just because he took your thirdbasemen free-agent, huh? Whataya think this is, the Army, where you shoot ‘em a mile away? You gotta get up close like this… badaBING! you blow their brains all over your nice Ivy League suit. C’mere… you’re taking this very personal.”

    Today little stein settles all family business… Time to convince boras that we are putting him on a plane to vegas

  120. Tejada fan November 14th, 2007 at 11:53 am

    Farnsworth to Baltimore for Miguel Tejada.

    Baltimore sheds Tejada’s $26M ($13M/yr.) through 2009 – Farnsworth’s $5.75M for 2008 = $20.25M ($7.25M next year, $13M in 2009) and could clear $5.75M by letting go of Farnsworth after 2008. Their closer Chris Ray is out for 2008 from Tommy John surgery, so they’ll need a closer. Enter Farnsworth who has some experience closing. He could be an option among several guys to be the closer or be part of a “closer by committee”. The Yanks take on $20.25M more in salary (Tejada’s $26M through 2009 – Farnsworth’s $5.75M for 2008) including $7.25M in 2008 and $13M in 2009, but I look at getting him like this:

    He costs the Yanks $7.25M for 2008 and an average of $10.125M/yr. and Farnsworth’s $5.75M is on the ’08 payroll, only Farnsworth isn’t taking up a spot on the 25-man roster. Who cares about an extra $20.25M across two years with A-Rod’s $90+M for 2008-10 off the books from him opting out? No overpaying for Lowell, trading for Crede who has had exactly one really good year (2006) and terrible career OBP (a litte over .300), or taking a chance on Betemit.

    Tejada is a veteran righthanded power-hitter who could fit into the Yanks’ everyday lineup nicely like this:

    Damon
    Jeter
    Abreu
    Posada
    Matsui
    Tejada
    Cano
    Giambi
    Cabrera

  121. Meat Hook November 14th, 2007 at 11:53 am

    A-Rod has been such bad luck we’ve won 95 games a year and made the playoffs four years in a row.

  122. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 11:54 am

    One thing is for sure. Its pretty clear the PR beating Arod has taken the last few weeks has had some effect on his situation.

    Whether its real (teams are backing off of him) or imagined, something has changed.

    Once Hank Steinbrenner said “no comment” to the Arod stuff, you have a feeling something is going on.

    I sincerely hope its not to play the Yankees to get other teams involved. If that’s the case, if he thought he had bad PR off the World Series debacle, it would PALE to what it would be like he played the Yankees for a better deal somewhere else now.

    I do believe, if he offers up a sufficient mea culpa (signing for less money, apology, etc), the fans (at least most of them) would welcome him back with open arms.

  123. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 11:54 am

    arod and a heartfelt mea culpa is a impossability because arod has no heart..

    you fools do not understand he has no heart just ego and self…

    he should play on a team with other notables like; marbury, terrel owens, and other team first class acts…

    the guy has no heart and no class. he thinks if you dress nice, have good manners, and talk a certain way you have class but those qualities prove you are polite not have class. AFRAUD you can not buy class.. isn’t it interesting all his beloved teamates do not appear to upset that he is gone!!!!!!!!

    if he came back it is for one reason the boras scheme(not a plan for a guy like him) did not work…that would be the only reason he would come back and talk about his heartfelt(joke) love for the pinstries……….

  124. Darrel NY November 14th, 2007 at 11:54 am

    The trade proposals here are beyond hilarious.

    Farnsworth for an all star in Tejada.

    WOW!!

  125. Russell NY November 14th, 2007 at 11:54 am

    Joe Alien has been rumored to be negotiating a 5 year contract with the Yankees management. They were spotted talking about a deal on a bench in the middle of Central Park, 2 blocks from the UFO landing zone.

  126. BPT November 14th, 2007 at 11:56 am

    If that Daily news story is correct, Arod has a good shot at coming back a total hero — it could be one of the largest reversals of fortune in NY sports history. If he plays the PR correct the sky is the limit for the increase in his stature in NY.

    The funny thing is, in reality, this all could have been orchestrated by Boras. A good lawyer will always take the fall for his valued client. This is classic Boras, he is happy to be the demon to help his client reverse the damage to his image.

    Honestly, I don’t want to get my hopes up, but this could just be too good to be true. Signing Arod makes the most sense. Signing Lowell actually lowers our position in the first round of the draft and is barely an upgrade over Betemit. Trading for Cabrera might save us some money in the early years, but costs us a lot of young talent, which will likely be paid for with expensive free agents — in the end it will likely be more expensive than signing Arod and keeping the youngsters.

  127. Mike November 14th, 2007 at 11:56 am

    stuart,

    Get a life.

    I bet you were cheering when he hit that homer off Papelbon and that single off Papelbon.

    Weren’t you, stewie?

    You’re the fraud.

    A-Rod is such a cancer he’s won 2 MVP awards.

    How about you get him some pitching because pitching wins titles.

  128. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 11:57 am

    Boras is not evil – he is just too good at what he does… I wish i could have in negotiate my next consulting contract… It is just fun to equate him to a cross between darth vader and satan (the south park version)

  129. Darrel NY November 14th, 2007 at 11:57 am

    Why not Farnsworth for Cabrera?

    Florida needs a closer too.

    And maybe Andy Phillips for Santana.

  130. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    ESPN is now reporting the NY Daily News’ article. So basically, it’s just the Daily News. No one else is reporting these back door talks. And why would this “high-ranking official” blurt out that these talks are taking place? It only enhances any market that there is out there for his services… color me skeptical, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

  131. pat November 14th, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    Wonder who the third party who is acting as intermediary is? Posada? He’s had the Yankees ear the past few days.

  132. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    loren, comaduce, and other arod lovers. best player!!really .. arod does not even believe that if he did one of his criterium for his next team would not be the ability to win now with other great players already there… if he was truly a great player he would believe he can lift his team to greatness but he does not think that because he is correct he cannot and the proof is his 13 yr career.

    do not tell me ted williams, ernie banks, and others have never won a championship because arod has played on teams with plenty of talent and done NADA..

    I cringe every time I see another rottissiere stat geek say arod is the best player in the game, HE IS NOT. He plays a hollow game like his personality.

  133. mel November 14th, 2007 at 12:00 pm

    Uhh, guys. Undermarket and undervalued are too different things. Value is in the eye of the beholder. We all know that he’s overpriced, but in the eyes of the A-team any contract that takes out $21M would be undervalued.

    And Eric, the Alex hate that you see here is not because Alex shunned the Yankees. It’s relief. For years we’ve had to bite our tongues because it’s bad form to bash the best player on your team. I promise that IF Alex comes back, I won’t be on the “Oooohhh, Alex! We love you, you’re the best!” bandwagon. I’ll silently stew in my juices.

  134. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 12:01 pm

    Darrell – lets be fair… If we are giving them Phillips they can atlest throw Francisco Liriano into the deal… Just looking for an even exchange of talent

  135. B November 14th, 2007 at 12:03 pm

    “I cringe every time I see another rottissiere stat geek say arod is the best player in the game, HE IS NOT. He plays a hollow game like his personality.”

    Funniest thing I’ve read in a long time. If you can work up a full 15 minute act, you should consider going out on tour.

  136. pat November 14th, 2007 at 12:05 pm

    No market price was ever set on A-Rod’s contract. All the numbers being thrown around attributed to the Yankees and Boras were just talk. It takes a meeting of the minds to set market rate. The market rate will be whatever he signs his name to wherever that may be.

  137. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 12:05 pm

    I was cheering when he hit the homer off papelbon moron.. But even a moron like me sooner or later get’s it.. just slow learners like you cannot see arod is afraud and is a nicer version of bonds. a ego maniac, superior talent, but destined to fail because of there personality and psyche..

    so mikey you get a life and remember the yanks won with the likes of chad curtis, brosius, shane spencer, mariano duncan, and others and this collection of overpriced all stars have come up so short the last few years it is laughable….

    I expect arod to win more games next yr. in april and june but not in october.. arod has in his contract he takes off october……

  138. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 12:07 pm

    “count me as one af the probably 70% who will be pissed if the CANCER IS BACK. I do not even need to say his name because you all know who the cancer is.”

    count me as one of the 70% who will be happy if he comes back.

    wait, where does my 70% come from?

    i made it up, just like you did.

  139. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 12:07 pm

    Stuart – your right – Manny is a good example of rising to the moment and taking over a playoff game… This year the whole team went into a funk… Even jeter sucked… How often can you say that.

    We have not won recently because of pitching… This year – if we get lucky with the kids, we could have a really solid rotation. I have no clue what to do with the pen.

  140. Joe from Long Island November 14th, 2007 at 12:08 pm

    hmmm – You have a point. However, I still think it would take major PR work if ARod and the Yankees were to make a deal at this point. Not impossible, but a lot of spin all the way around – ARod, Yankees, Boras.

  141. Global Warming November 14th, 2007 at 12:09 pm

    We’ve all called A-Rod names and have shunned him like no player before. BUT, if he’s seriously willing to not have Borass by his side while he talks to the Yankees AND takes a “below the market” deal.

    Welcome back A-Rod.

    Like I said yesterday, the Yankees don’t care about loyalty and in this case rightfully so.

  142. Nud November 14th, 2007 at 12:10 pm

    so mikey you get a life and remember the yanks won with the likes of chad curtis, brosius, shane spencer, mariano duncan, and others

    The above comment is completely ridiculous..Yanks won because of the likes of Jeter, Paulie O, Tino, Bernie, Cone, Key, Wells, Andy, El Duque, Mo etc..Curtis, Spencer, Duncan were nice role/part time players that helped but they certainly werent the reason the Yanks won titles!!!

    I do agree that having an all star at every position is definitely not necessary but AROD is the best April-October1st player in the game………..and he will get his ring and have his big post-season moment with the Yanks or on another team

  143. mel November 14th, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    Yeah, I cheered for that homerun, too. It got us the win and I really dislike Papel-pug.

    You know, I also cheered for all of Alex’s milestones, too.

    But, I definitely got a kick out of Bobby’s homeruns when he struggled, Jeter’s HR off Schilling, Cano’s golf shot in the playoffs, and all of Shelley’s bombs.

  144. Paul9 November 14th, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    I agree with SJ the Hank no comment seems to be the most telling. This is a guy who every time asked about negotiating with Arod he said no, its over, he opted out, never and all of a sudden he has no comment. He comments on EVERYTHING. Something is a little fishy.

  145. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    if this deal is made – it will feature george lucas style production…

    Your going to have a-rod on the podium saying something to the effect of “i am making this decision independent of my agent…” He will apologize to the fans… lil stein will make a statment… And because it is for the good of the team i would picture jeter getting involved as well… It will be a love fest…

  146. whozat November 14th, 2007 at 12:12 pm

    “Anyone who thinks guys like Cabrera and Santana, who have no trade clauses, will allow themselves to be dealt the year before they become free agents and gain the ability to truly test the market are devoid of anything remotely resembling logic.”

    Do people not realize that TRADES CAN BE MADE CONTINGENT UPON EXTENSIONS? You don’t finalize a trade _hoping_ you can sign a guy to an extension. You initiate the deal and then get a window to agree upon an extension. The Yanks did this with the RJ deal. No extension, the trade doesn’t happen. And if the player won’t agree to one long enough, or is asking too much money, the team is under no obligation to come to terms.

    It’s not “We’ll give you players X and Y and then hope we can sign Santana long term,” it’s “We’ll give you X and Y if and only if we can sign Santana long term.”

    If Santana/Cabrera’s not agreeing to extensions with anyone, then he becomes a rental and his team can either trade him for a lot less value, or just keep him.

  147. Frank Discussion November 14th, 2007 at 12:13 pm

    I wouldn’t hesitate for a minute in bringing Alex back to the fold, simply stated the Yankees can’t compensate for his production at third base in the current free agent market, and I think the price for Cabrera is simply to steep. I don’t care how much Alex is paid, it’s not coming out of my pocket.

  148. Artie A November 14th, 2007 at 12:15 pm

    Pete, enjoy some well deserved time off. Your humor is great and we will miss it. But recharging will help you to cope with all of us Yankee crazies and I’m sure some even new and funnier material will e I’m sure. We are grateful and happy to be part of this Blog!

    BTW- Enough with A-Rod…we need Mo and it would be helpful if Andy was to get on board!

  149. kd November 14th, 2007 at 12:15 pm

    I bet Alex looked around and saw he was being killed in the media. in 2001, he was being hailed as the perfect player. Now he’s an average defensive 3rd baseman with a huge bat, not worth the contract he wants. My guess is what he realized that the only team that would really want to sign him was the SF Giants, a team that plays in a pitchers park and is terrible. If he actually wants to win, he’ll have to come crawling back to the Yankees or beg the Red Sox for a chance. When Boston went after Lowell hard, and the LA teams want Cabrera, my guess is he called Cashman.

    He’s in trouble and knows it.

  150. Bryn White November 14th, 2007 at 12:15 pm

    I to am in the 70% who want ARod back. Arod wasnt the only bat left in the dugout in the playoffs. How did our SS,
    C,LF do at the plate. How did our ace pitch

  151. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 12:16 pm

    one last comment, people keep saying the yankees should walk away b/c A-Rod brings a “circus” to town.

    but how much of the “circus” was because of his contract and the opt out?

    wouldn’t a new, long term contract with the Yankees basically eliminate that part of the “circus”.

    millions of words have been spilled around “will he/won’t he” opt out, the texas subsidy, the announcement during the WS, the yankees’ position, Boras, etc. etc. etc.

    all of that drama will go away, and A-Rod will just be like every other high priced superstar (ok, probably not).

    but a lot of it would go away.

  152. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 12:16 pm

    If the Yankees can bring back Billy Martin after he said, “One’s a born liar (Reggie Jackson) and the other one is a convicted one (George Steinbrenner), they sure as hell could bring back Arod and handle it, PR-wise.

    What Billy said/did, is far worse than anything Arod has done.

    That’s not the issue. The issue is, will Arod, for the first time in his life, do something without Scott Boras’ involvement or approval?

    That’s the issue. Not whether or not the egos involved can handle him coming back.

  153. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 12:19 pm

    Hmm,

    Agreed. Played right, Arod could come out of this looking better (from a PR perspective) than he has in years.

    Especially if he issues the proper public mea culpa, without Scott Boras in his presence.

    In a way, its unfair to Boras because, if any of you think Arod wasn’t involved in how they were going to opt out, you are insanely naive as to how the process works.

    That said, if you are Boras, you do what you gotta do to have a happy client.

    If that means falling on the sword here and looking like the ultimate villain, you do it. That’s the job of an agent. Its always about making sure your client is positioned in the best possible way to maximize his opportunities.

  154. mel November 14th, 2007 at 12:20 pm

    kd,

    LOL. Gammons actually said that Cabrera’s range factor was better than Alex’s.

  155. Pat November 14th, 2007 at 12:21 pm

    Why is the PR so hard? The Yanks say “He came back, hat in hand, and we worked out a deal that took into account the money lost when he opted out.” Then ARod says “Sorry, guys I don’t really want to talk about the past. I always wanted to stay here and maybe I didn’t handle things as well as I could have. But the important thing now it to concentrate on this season and winning a ring for the fans here in NY.” There, spin is done.

  156. Joe from Long Island November 14th, 2007 at 12:21 pm

    SJ44 – You’ve got that right!

  157. nate c. November 14th, 2007 at 12:23 pm

    ahh, another day as a yankee fan.

    never a dull moment around here. i love it

  158. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 12:23 pm

    “That’s not the issue. The issue is, will Arod, for the first time in his life, do something without Scott Boras’ involvement or approval?”

    Thats whats fishy about all of this. Who knows where the truth lies? I think, if true, boras might still be involved….

  159. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 12:23 pm

    What’s with the “below market” stuff? So far the only numbers besides the LSD fueled ones from Boras have come from the Yankees.

    I’m still finding all this hard to believe. It would mean that he turned on his own agent because of criticism? That would be a first.

  160. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 12:24 pm

    “That’s the job of an agent. Its always about making sure your client is positioned in the best possible way to maximize his opportunities.”

    good point sj, other opportunities like commericals and whatnot. How can you have madison ave, if madison ave is in new york?

  161. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 12:25 pm

    I wonder how much of the a-rod package is Boras… Maybe if we exercised the boars demon, Arod would be able to relax more. Enjoy baseball more… Stop trying to say the most neutral politically correct comment and speak from the heart

  162. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 12:27 pm

    I wonder if this turns into a “Return of the jedi” situation and arod throws boras into an abyss…

  163. Pat November 14th, 2007 at 12:27 pm

    murph – More likely this isn’t really being done without Boras working behind the scenes. Boras probably found that he had overestimated the market and that the best deal for ARod is the Yanks offer minus 21 million or the Angels offer will increase if Arod is back in talks with NY.

  164. Joe from Long Island November 14th, 2007 at 12:27 pm

    ARod doing commercials and endorsements? What’s he going to sell, used cars? Real estate in Arkansas?

  165. Jeff in MA November 14th, 2007 at 12:27 pm

    “count me as one af the probably 70% who will be pissed if the CANCER IS BACK. I do not even need to say his name because you all know who the cancer is.”

    count me as one of the 70% who will be happy if he comes back.
    wait, where does my 70% come from?
    i made it up, just like you did.

    That’s why Yankees fans are the best. We always give 140%.

  166. pat November 14th, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    SJ44

    “The issue is, will Arod, for the first time in his life, do something without Scott Boras’ involvement or approval?”

    The ultimate goal for any agent is to get their client what they want and get the best deal in the process. If keeping Boras out of that process achieves the ultimate goal, he should be on board with the decision. While Boras may not be in the room, he will still give A-Rod input and be involved.

  167. Tommy November 14th, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    SJ44:

    Good point with the Billy comparison.

    Anything can be spun, in any direction.

    I also think that Hank not commenting leads one to wonder.

  168. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 12:29 pm

    “In a way, its unfair to Boras because, if any of you think Arod wasn’t involved in how they were going to opt out, you are insanely naive as to how the process works.”

    i agree that alex is not innocent here, but i think there does exist the possibility that Boras PROMISED Alex that the Yankees were bluffing.

    and Alex trusts Boras. and why shouldn’t he? the contract he got him from Texas was a work of art. it was such a work of art that we are here today discussing him post opt-out. it was such a work of art that Texas will be paying him $3M/year for the next 3 years even AFTER opting out.

    i still think this is a long shot, but i suppose it is possible that for the first time ever, Boras overplayed his hand.

  169. mel November 14th, 2007 at 12:29 pm

    Even if Boras is not in the room, nothing gets done without him.

  170. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 12:29 pm

    Murph,

    Or, Boras didn’t have a deal in place (or at a place Arod wants to play) and this is a way of working things out with the Yankees.

    It wouldn’t shock me if the architect of this “plan” is Boras.

    It would shock me if Arod fired him. That would shock me.

    If you are Boras, either way, you win. If Arod goes back to the Yankees, you get your commission and a happy client (assuming he really wants to come back).

    If he goes elsewhere, you drew the Yankees back in play, set the market, and you get a deal done somewhere else. Shady? Yes but, that’s the way its played at times.

    The only way Boras loses is if he is fired. I just don’t see that happening.

  171. Kevin M. November 14th, 2007 at 12:29 pm

    “In theory, Alex could come to the Yankees and volunteer to eat the $21.3 million the Yankees are losing from Texas. In theory, aliens could land in Central Park as well.”

    In theory…if Pete A. keeps making uneducated guesses about the Yankees someday he’ll get one right. In theory.

  172. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 12:30 pm

    Holy smokes… Return of the Jedi, wait… that explains it all…. Boras is Alex’s real father. Scott has been trying to make it up to Alex for leaving years earlier by making him rich, but when he told Alex who he really was, right after the opt-out announcement, Alex freaked…

    Darth Vader’s voice: “Alex, I’m your faaaaaather…”

  173. raymagnetic November 14th, 2007 at 12:31 pm

    Gammons actually said that Cabrera’s range factor was better than Alex’s.

    This is true according to the hardball times.

  174. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 12:32 pm

    migames,

    One’s baseball agent is not always one’s agent for commercial endorsements.

    In Arod’s case, I believe Boras handles both. But, more and more players are signing with entertainment agencies, such as William Morris, for commerical opportunities.

  175. pat November 14th, 2007 at 12:32 pm

    Joe

    The huge Nike/ARod billboard outside Penn station would tell me he’s at least somewhat marketable.

  176. Enoch44 November 14th, 2007 at 12:33 pm

    I don’t care about any of the scenarios, etc…..If we acquire ARod which costs us no prospects, we should have all the ammo we need to take a shot at Johan as well.

  177. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 12:33 pm

    I do not worry about the PR hit. I truly do not want him back. I truly believe he is a cancer and never makes his teams better…..

    I am aware of the Yankee pitching issues over the last few years but t hey could have been overcome if some of the hitters produced… yeah I am also aware that jeter and others had a bad series against the indians…

    arod again has 1 hit with men in scoring position in his last over 50 AB’s on the playoffs… THAT STAT IS HARD TO DO, MARK LEMKE COULD NOT EVEN BE THAT INEPT.

    For the dreamers that think if Arod came back and did a mea culpa all would be right, DREAM ON.. He would cause some other issue and this cycle will never end and I believe it adds to the team tightness etc.

    I for one what the yanks for once to not be the big bad overpaid yankees and would love if someone else got the headlines and the yanks actually could concentrate on baseball. I actually like the game and hate the drama..

    if afraud did not like the drama he would simply not need or want to be the highest paid player in the game but of course his ego and narcism would never allow that..

    game 4 they gave up 6 runs not 16….game 2 they gave up 2 runs not 12,, wang sucked for sure but the offfense went on vaction for the 4th yr. in a row…

  178. mel November 14th, 2007 at 12:34 pm

    raymagnetic,

    I believe it. After all what Gammons says is gospel. What has he said on these backdoor negotiations? lol.

  179. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 12:36 pm

    MURPHYDOG – YESSS!!!!!!!

    if you are close to 30 years old, everything always makes more sense if you speak in terms of Starwars…

  180. kd November 14th, 2007 at 12:36 pm

    I still have serious doubts that ARod wants to play here. If he did, all he had to do was talk to the ownership. A conversation, that’s it. He didn’t even return a call. I think he’s not getting what he wants on the open market and knows he need to engage the Yankees to get Boston involved.

  181. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 12:37 pm

    why has this leaked? man, what a story. If true or not, whatever the purpose of all of this is, it will be great to find out in a 20 years when Arod writes his autobiography: I, Me, Mine….I kid, george harrison already wrote that one. But man, this is exciting

  182. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 12:38 pm

    SJ:

    I don’t see Boras being fired either.

    In the cold light of day, they tried a huge gambit,went for the Big Con and failed. It’s hardly malpractice for Scott to suggest that they should have tried. It was unpopular, but not below the standard of care owed to a client.

    For all we know he is still counseling A-Rod to hold out, that they could still pull it off. So A-Rod got cold feet? In that case Boras has to let him do whatever Rod thinks is right, even if it goes against his advice. In the end, the client always has the final say. Changing course is not the same as firing Boras.

    It’s funny, if this happens it’s the inverse of the old saying that everybody has his price. By seeking this much money (flying too close to the sun?), A-Rod’s reach finally exceeded his grasp.

  183. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 12:39 pm

    Stuart – you are 100 percent right about the past 3-4 years in the playoffs, a-rod has stunk..

    But before this year – he was considered completely un-clutch … He was our best regular season player.. He beat the sox with a homer off papelbon – i almost knocked my chair over when that happened…

    Maybe this year is the year he deals with his recent post season demons…

  184. pat November 14th, 2007 at 12:39 pm

    Stuart

    Ego aside, if you were the best at what you did wouldn’t you expect to be compensated for it? Capitalism at it’s finest.

    I’m not sure the Yanks and A-Rod will find common ground but I look forward to your rant if they do.

  185. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 12:41 pm

    Mel,stuart- I agree with both of you. The bottom line is they misread the market and he is crawling back like a dog. I know the arguement is he is an m.v.p. and we are better with him than without. But I dont believe for once that fans and teamates will forget the low class act he has shown in the past couple weeks.

    It was a breath of fresh air when he opted out and we didnt have the Im bigger than the team act. Jeter sounded like he was more happy than sad that he was off the team. We have been in the same spot with him than withoug him in the past 7 years. No world series rings.

    Dont tell me that we wouldnt have won 90+games if it wasnt for him. You have no idea who would have been at his spot and at first base with the money and situation at the time. I can guarantee you it wouldnt have been Phillips and Cairo.

    Bottom line is he showed his true colors. He doesnt love N.Y., the Yankees or his teamates. He Loves money and being the top paid Dog out there. We are better off in the long haul without his drama and self centered self.

    KEEP THE DOG OUT!!!
    NEW YORK YANKEES ARE BIGGER THAN ANY PLAYER. Especially a FRAUD.

  186. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 12:42 pm

    El Comaduce:

    I passed 30 so long ago it hurts just to think about it. (The good thing is I don’t remember so much anymore).

  187. pat November 14th, 2007 at 12:43 pm

    Pete picked a good time for a vacation. With these kind of rumors, the blog comments will take care of themselves.

  188. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 12:45 pm

    Pat I am not a communist so yes get paid what you can I personally have never turned down a raise but when is enough enough?????

    Afraud will literally in baseball money alone not endorsements make over $500 mill in his career. That is OBSCENE…..

    Who is the 2nd highest paid player???/No one cares… If afraud was the 2nd highest paid 1/2 the baggage would og away the rest would go away if he never talked and sputed his cliche BS that no one believes because he does not even believe it.

    Celizic had a good article on the arod divorce onMSNBC when he opted out, really all sides are better off if he moves on he can lose and be beloved for the CUbs he should go there…

    Also again why has afraud not spoken publicly in weeks??????????????He has to be told what to say or spin his utter greed and arrogance…….

  189. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 12:46 pm

    Perhaps we could help things along by starting a rumor that Scott Boras has put gerbil up his tuckus – ala Curb your enthusiasm…

    This would force a-rod to have to distance himself from boras resulting in this situation getting decided..

  190. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 12:47 pm

    A-Rod opts out, then maybe opts back in and Pete’s taking off until Dec 2? I think we may see another star playa changing his mind.

  191. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 12:48 pm

    From the random thought department:

    1) Wouldn’t be surprised if this is Boras’ “Plan B”.. “Alex, you lay low and let me see what’s out there; we’re pretty sure we can get you $300M, but if we can’t then you take the point, I’ll go under the bus, the important thing is we get the coin.”

    2) Boras’ Boras Corporation handles player contracts; Boras’ Impact Marketing handles endorsement deals.

    3) No Mariano yet, as we’re seeing the same “edge” that Jorge has for the organization. I’m hearing that Mo is waiting for Jorge’s official announcement, or something close to it before he commits (and no, he’s not going anywhere else… he “gets” the legacy part).

    4) Pettitte is waiting for Posada and Mo to re-up. That was always the plan. Hasn’t changed.

  192. raymagnetic November 14th, 2007 at 12:49 pm

    stuart if you think that a man making as much money as he possibly can legally is obscene you are in the wrong country my friend.

    You better get what you can in this capitalistic society.

  193. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 12:50 pm

    fun topic:

    http://www.borascorp.com/home/

    asks for a user name and password… i wonder what a-rods username and password is…

    LET THE COMMENTS FLY

  194. Irabu's Son November 14th, 2007 at 12:54 pm

    My favorite part of this situation is that I think Boston will ultimately stay away from A-Rod because Epstein knows everyone in that clubhouse hates A-Rod’s guts, and therefore signing him would destroy the team.

    That being said, I’d feel more comfortable if Boston re-signed Lowell because it would just about guarantee that they won’t sign A-Rod.

  195. Mitch November 14th, 2007 at 12:55 pm

    Crazy to take Arod back. Only way is if we lowball him and he has no other option. I hope the other clubs dont cave to his demands.

  196. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 12:55 pm

    “Bottom line is he showed his true colors. He doesnt love N.Y., the Yankees or his teamates. He Loves money and being the top paid Dog out there. ”

    i guess we should stop rooting for every player that loves money. that would leave….

    or every player that has ever changed teams, b/c that means they didn’t love their teammates.

    welcome to modern sports in the FA era.

    54 HRs is not enough. he has to LOVE ME too!1!1!!!

    give me a break. NY fans are getting a little full of themselves.

  197. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 12:58 pm

    raymagnetic if you think baseball palyers making $30 mill a yr. when cops, fireman, soldiers, teachers and others make pennies then you are a capitalist with no heart and logic. If you think CEO’s and hedge fund managers making $300 mill a yr. while firing people who make $40 k to help the bottom line is ethical and in societies best interest you are a moron who read an economics book and are too limited to think for yourself..

    let’s all just get what we can.. Then we can call ourselves Arod.

    If saying enough is enough makes me a fool or p

    utz, I guess i am guilty as charged. But I would bet my financial situation is significantly better then yours and when I go to sleep at night I have few regrets on how I handle my business life.

  198. mel November 14th, 2007 at 12:58 pm

    hmmm,

    You have a point, but there are some players who re-up AND give the team a hometown discount.

    And, no, 54 homeruns were not enough to buy our love. He needs to break the regular season record and top it off with a couple in the playoffs. With men on base. Loaded even. ;)

  199. Jeff in MA November 14th, 2007 at 12:58 pm

    stuart –

    “…really all sides are better off if he moves on…”

    I’m not so sure the Yankees are better off.. especially if it’s all “just business” as many like to say.

    I don’t think they’ll gonna sell a lot of skyboxes in the new stadium based on the marquee value of Wilson Betemit.

  200. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 12:59 pm

    “Also again why has afraud not spoken publicly in weeks??????????????He has to be told what to say or spin his utter greed and arrogance…….”

    who gives a sh*t?

    the guy hits a ball with a stick.

    he’s not the president.

  201. pat November 14th, 2007 at 1:00 pm

    From NY Times

    “There’s a shot they could get Lowell, but there’s a shot they could still get A-Rod,” a person close to Rodriguez said on Tuesday night, speaking on condition of anonymity because Rodriguez had not authorized him to speak publicly. “I think Alex is so scared, he might still come back. It would have to be on a discount, and he knows that.”

    The might still come back part sounds like it is someone still involved with the Yankees that said that. Kevin Long? Reggie Jackson?

  202. mel November 14th, 2007 at 1:00 pm

    I don’t think Stuart was saying that making as much money as you can is obscene. I think he just meant that Alex’s situation is just so bizarre.

  203. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    honestly stuart – i get your point… but really, if you have this much hate for players and baseball and their exorbant salaries, stop watching. Don’t go to games. And don’t be a fan. Their salaries are dictated by the market. And the owners get their money from fans (for the most part). If you don’t like it – don’t participate.

  204. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 1:03 pm

    hmmm-NY fans are getting a little full of themselves.

    The only one full of himself is him. Ask Schilling if he went for the money. Im fine with getting paid. But to not return calls and announce your opting out in the world series just to get the free pub,isnt what i and many others want on this team. He has brought more distractions than any player still hear. The only reason it isnt talked about is because his production. He’s baseballs version of Terrell Owens. ME FIRST,ME ALL THE TIME. We’ve won before he was here, we’ll win without him here.

  205. Enoch44 November 14th, 2007 at 1:03 pm

    We’re so much better with him than without him. If this is true, it’s great for the Yankees.

  206. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 1:03 pm

    jeff MA, scholar all the luxury boxes are sold for yrs already.

    they are called the NY yankees not the NY Afrauds…

    Yeah since ruth, mantle, gehrig, munson,Bernie, and others have left the yankees could never recover.

    god forbid the great afraud leave…they are building a $900 mill stadium regardless if afraud grants us his presence or not…

    How many of you losers just want to date afraud!!!!!!!!!!

    you guys do not get it he is not bigger then the team……I guess the line on why they do not have the names on the back of the jerseys is just marketing spin to you all like everything else….the started the Yes Network before we were graced with the presence of the great arod…….

  207. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    hmmm – hopefully, he can catch a ball with a glove too. otherwise, I’d have to dock his salary…

  208. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    “You have a point, but there are some players who re-up AND give the team a hometown discount. ”

    ok.

    but Jeter sure as hell didn’t. and we root for him.

    Bernie didn’t. he went through the exact same process A-Rod is doing now.

    in fact, just last week everyone here told me that in the end, Bernie overruled Boras and told Boras to get him a deal with the Yankees. and that was why we should love Bernie and hate Alex.

    well, if these reports are true (and i am NOT sure they are), then Alex is doing the exact same thing.

    and he is willing to forego $21M to make it work.

  209. raymagnetic November 14th, 2007 at 1:06 pm

    Stuart, your argument is perfectly logical in a communistic society.

    However in this great country anyone can come from humble beginnings and rise up to own their own hedge funds and make their own 300Mil salaries.

    It’s also a country where a kid from a broken home can work hard and become one of the best entertainers in the world and make themselves ridiculously rich.

    I don’t like that, I love it!

    But I would bet my financial situation is significantly better then yours and when I go to sleep at night I have few regrets on how I handle my business life.

    P.S. I love statements like this. Do you want to meet me in midtown and compare our checking account sizes? ;) lol

  210. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 1:06 pm

    He is not bigger than the team – but he could help the team… An boras’less arod could be interesting…

  211. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 1:06 pm

    I CANT WAIT TO HEAR MIKE AND DOG ON THIS TOPIC

  212. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    So Stuart, how do you really feel about A-Rod? The world, and “70% of the fans” are dying to know.

    Gee, I have to wonder, since you know so much about A-Rod, what he thinks, what type of person he is, what floats his boat(s), when was the last time you spent time with him? How often did the two of you hang out talking about such things?

    Amazing. Stuart, I bet you would be acting the same way and talking the same way if it were Babe Ruth or Joe Dimaggio opting out.

    You must be a real whoot at parties.

  213. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    just for the record, I have no real opinion on arod being gone or coming back. If he comes back, great. He’s a good player that works hard. If he leaves, then great. He’ll follow the money. But seriously, do I really care what he makes? Try as I might, nope. Not my money. Not my job. If he can get someone to pay him $200 mil, more power to him. The only part I regret is the face that I couldn’t get someone to pay me $200 mil.

  214. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    1.45 MARK FEINSAND will be on the fan… He is one of the authors of the story….

  215. No More Japanese Pitchers-- PLEASE!!!!! November 14th, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    No offense Pete, but you have been wrong on a lot of things this offseason. You’re really off your game lately…..I’m just going to wait to hear for sure.

  216. Ranting Guy November 14th, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11.....38;emc=rss

    I’ve been thinking (as have some others) the only way A-Rod could be welcomed back is to eat the $21M Texas subsidy NY lost when he opted out. I’m sure all who’ve even considered that to be the only amicable solution would agree he’d never do that.

    Or would he?

    Now here’s the next question: Rather than coming down $21M from the $350M offer he/Boras expected the Yanks to make just to talk to him, would he take $21M off the first three years of the Yanks offer, and stick to the annual salaries, adjusting only the number of years later on?

    That should be the only way. Oh, and throw in an apology and the termination of his contract with Boras.

    Yes, he’s a grown man and Boras works for him rather than the other way around. But Boras is hired in part to convince people of his value and get it for him. He could easily convince A-Rod opting out and asking for $350M is the best strategy for A-Rod too. I would expect that convincing the client is also part of his job.

    Now if A-Rod has a genuine epiphany or change of heart he’d do what it takes. Anything less … see ya!

  217. matthew fraguela November 14th, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    I think Miguel Cabrera hitting the market has thrown a major kink in Uber-Agent Boras’ plans… Angelg and Dodgers are torn and that means the market for Arod has shrunk… Miggy is 24, has less baggage (even with the bigger waistline), and already has on WS ring.
    On top of that… It appears EVERY third baseman in MLB is on the market. The market is flooded now, awash with CF and now 3B players.

    Teams that were possible destinations for Arod: Giants, Red Sox, Cubs, White Sox, Dodgers, Angels… these clubs are now conisdering Cabrera instead of Arod.

    SO… Here’s how this works now:

    (1) Arod is upset with the way this has all turned out, how his image took yet another hit. He sees the market flooded and his value is down… He sees the Yanks might target Lowell… other teams looking at Miggy… He wants to act ASAP, save face and get his 270 million and return to the Yanks before it’s too late.

    OR

    (2) Arod is using the Yanks… Scaring teams into acting… Being proactive to blow up the flooded market… Sending a signal to any team who wants him: Act now or lose me.

  218. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 1:09 pm

    “The only one full of himself is him. Ask Schilling if he went for the money.”

    yes, let’s compare a 41 year old pitcher who only wants to play for 1 more year before retiring with a 32 year old guy coming off an MVP and the chance to get an 8 year deal worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

    what did schilling give up, $1-2M??

    do you really think the situations are comparable?

  219. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 1:09 pm

    fact – not face…

  220. Doreen November 14th, 2007 at 1:09 pm

    All A-Rod — All the Time. Gotta love it. You know, really, NY is the ONLY place on earth that can handle this 24/7/365-6. :)

  221. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    Pete runs a great blog – he is allowed a hiccup from time to time…

  222. Jeff in MA November 14th, 2007 at 1:11 pm

    Way to elevate the discussion stuart. Maybe everyone will agree that you’re right if you just call us morons a few more times.

    I guess all of the industry experts that have said over the last months that having Alex is important to the Yankees’ business interests are morons too.

    And for the record, I have not expressed any opinion about whether he should come back or not.

  223. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 1:11 pm

    raymagnetic you just do not get it.. I am sorry your limited intellect does not allow you to think outside the textbook…. when the guys who make $300 mill distort the system; ANgelo Mizillo COuntrywide and others basically steal and morons like you think that is OK, we have a problem.

    I do not have much sympathy for the owners myself but when you think a statement like enough is enough is anti capitalism or whatever then you are truly a free market neo con moron…

    they use to run the world like you think and we had the great depression and 6 yr old working in factories in NYC and dieing at work..

    READ a LITTLE MAYBE YOU CAN LEARN SOMETHING.

  224. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 1:12 pm

    Can’t compare Schilling with Arod. Totally different situations.

    Schilling is only playing one more year. Arod is playing for 10 more years.

    Completely different scenarios.

  225. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 1:15 pm

    “How many of you losers just want to date afraud!!!!!!!!!!”

    ooh, calling those who disagree with you gay.

    the very mark of an intelligent argument.

  226. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    arod’s dilemma?

    a) lowell is a free agent
    b_ miguel cabrera can be had – and he’s younger, cheaper and can potentially be as good or better than arod and is under control for 3 more years.
    c) more teams are willing to listen to trade options than previously thought
    d) boston and the yankees aren’t in the bidding
    e) santana may be tradeable and teams may be saving their money/prospects for him

    i dunno. I don’t think i’m drinking the arod kool aid yet. as much as i’d like to believe the stories, that’s a lot of ego for arod to swallow and i honestly don’t know if even he has the stomach for it.

  227. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    I hate schilling but he could have gotten a multi yr. contract
    for more money but he decided winning and being happy is more important since he is already rich.. sorry raymagnetic the fool schilling left money on the table…….

    and to Jeff MA you are e sport economist with the likes of Zimbalist….Really you know all the Yankee finances???My kids, brothers, and all my family are Yankee fans if they have arod or no arod will that change? the answer is no….

  228. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    Looking for confirmation of a story by Mike and the Mad Dog is really the blind leading the blind.

    Neither guy has any idea what’s going on. They will grill Feinsand, then trash him when he goes off the air.

    If the story turns out to be true, Francesa will take credit for “breaking” the story.

    That Shark jumped on that radio show 8 years ago. They just mail it in each day.

    Listen to their daily trade proposals for the Yankees. They are worse than what we read on here each day.

  229. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    yeah SJ yesterday they threw tabata in on a few trades like he is chase wright….

    they are clowns..

  230. Miller November 14th, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    Just remember who broke this particular rumor on this blog 3 nights ago…

    Thats right…

  231. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    Didn’t Schilling get his money provided he meets certain milestones? I thought he had 2 million just for weighing in at playing poundage, 1 million just for getting 1 Cy Young vote, ect. Yes he took a lesser contract for guaranteed money, but not when all the incentives kicked in.

  232. mel November 14th, 2007 at 1:20 pm

    hmmm,

    Neither did Jorge and Pettitte. So why do we cheer for Jeter, Jorge, Pettitte, and Bernie despite their obvious flaws? Why offer $45M to an aging closer? Ahhh, the old “True Yankee” myth.

    I wasn’t paying attention to Bernie’s contract negotiations, but I’m pretty sure that he didn’t ask the Yankees to forgo $21M and then cough it up themselves (which happened on the night of Game 4 of the World Series, not in today’s newspapers).

    I know that Zambrano and Buerle took less than market contracts to stay put in a strong pitchers’ market.

    I see what you’re saying and I’m not arguing with you. I just feel that it’s not true that every player goes to this extreme to get more money. Some may take other things like location, family, comfort level, team chemistry, etc. into consideration.

  233. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 1:20 pm

    Listen to their daily trade proposals for the Yankees. They are worse than what we read on here each day.

    Is that possible?

  234. The Facade November 14th, 2007 at 1:20 pm

    Jeff, Stuart has always been mildly retarded in case that isn’t obvious from his moronic writing style and run on sentences.

  235. Jeff in MA November 14th, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    “My kids, brothers, and all my family are Yankee fans if they have arod or no arod will that change? the answer is no….”

    Same is true for me. I’m not the one shelling out millions a year for a skybox, though.

    Really stuart you’ll find a little civility goes a long way if you want people to listen to you. Give it a try.

  236. raymagnetic November 14th, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    raymagnetic you just do not get it.. I am sorry your limited intellect does not allow you to think outside the textbook…. when the guys who make $300 mill distort the system; ANgelo Mizillo COuntrywide and others basically steal and morons like you think that is OK, we have a problem.

    I do not have much sympathy for the owners myself but when you think a statement like enough is enough is anti capitalism or whatever then you are truly a free market neo con moron…

    they use to run the world like you think and we had the great depression and 6 yr old working in factories in NYC and dieing at work..

    READ a LITTLE MAYBE YOU CAN LEARN SOMETHING.

    This is truly hilarious to me. How are Angelo Mozilo and A-Rod even remotely similar? A-Rod is not distorting any system. He is being payed what the market is willing to pay him? That’s how things work in a supply and demand society.

    If you feel a product costs too much money don’t buy it. If you think A-Rod makes too much money then don’t support the team he plays for. It’s very simple.

    Comparing the subprime mortgage market to A-Rod is really apples to oranges. Comparing the great depression to what is happening now is apples to oranges.

    I didn’t realize you were so angry with the money A-Rod is making. You should really relax my friend.

  237. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 1:26 pm

    yeah the facade your are my english teacher.. yeah I am a moron to question total fools that think the arod experiment has gone well and 10 addtl. yrs of this nonsense will be great….

    man I am waiting for afraud and his press conference on monday for his 3rd mvp trophy that should be a comedy show.. the lines and BS will be flying in record amounts…..

    the yanks have a chance to reduce there insane payroll which for you total morons does have a negative affect on the teams performance but will bring back the hollow man…the have a chance to get back to being a TEAM and promoting young guys and mostly building from within but no we need AFRAUD back for more of the circus…

  238. Geesh November 14th, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    Why is everyone still crying over the “no call back’ by Rodriguez? If anyone has ever negotiated, whicih is what Boras is PAID to do by A-Rod, the first thing you do is use only 1 point person for discussions – that would be Boras. Everyone else is not allowed to talk to the vendors, teams, suitors, whatever. That’s a fact. Ask anyone who has worke din a large company before. 1 person is elected to do the negotiating, albeit with everyone’s input (in this case, A-Rawd), and that person only talks to people about the needs, pay, contract, etc. That’s what is called business.

    Imagine the other way, when everyone railed against Sheff for trying to call George when Cashman wanted him out the door…remind you of anything?

    i’m not a big fan of alex, but i’ve said all along – the only way i’d be happy about this is if Boras is out of the picture and he came back for less money – don’t think either will happen but you never know. I can understand his stance, otr Boras’ tactics, about not returning any phone calls…

  239. SHARP SHOOTER November 14th, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    Boy I’m lovin this,Boras finally realized he needs a hint of the Yankees being intrested in Arod, to attract beantown or the angels.It has been mentioned on previous threads,that the Yankees should not negotiate with(bad for baseball ,greedy) Boras,maybe the Stein’s read the blog too.If Arod comes crawling back,(and he should) alls forgiven,just show up(with your bat) in postseason!

  240. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    Stuart obviously doesn’t know his history either. Some people just speak so loudly they can’t hear what they are saying… that is Stuart.

    Stu- its time for you to take your meds. Calm down a little, stop foaming at the mouth, ’cause you aren’t making much progress with your views like this.

  241. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 1:30 pm

    Mike & the Mad Dog are horribly prepared. They sit at their microphones flipping through the sporst sections and pontificating as if they have an idea what they are talking about.

    The only reason I listen to them is that they have access to the people who DO know what is going on. You have to learn to tune their drivel out.

  242. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 1:30 pm

    All this being said – regardless of what happens – we need some bullpen help…

    Listening to the fans call Mike and dog, i understand why people hate yankee fans…

  243. Scooter November 14th, 2007 at 1:31 pm

    It would be great if in general we could agree to disagree in a civil manner, without name-calling or shouting. Think of it as a vacation gift for Pete and the admins here

    I agree with Pat – I’d love to know who is giving information to Kepner (at the NY Times) and Bill Madden/Mark Feinsand (at the News).

    I completely trust all 3 of those guys.

    I wonder if Madden’s old friend Stick Michael gave him info from the Yankee perspective.

    Not sure about the individual speaking anonymously from ARod’s inner circle. We’ll have to see if this is some spin doctoring by team Boras, or if there really is a rift here between ARod and Scott

  244. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    Bobcat – i listen to mike and dog so i can hear Russo try and pronounce the names of the latin ballplayers..

    it cracks me up to no end…

    The do get great guests…

  245. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 1:33 pm

    Miller’s source told him about this 2 days ago and Miller was kind enough to share it with us.

    Thanks, Miller!

    Now let’s get it done Yanks. Getting A-Rod fills a huge need, and no one (including prospects) gets traded for a Miggy or Tejada. We get one of the best players in MLB back and a lesser replacement might have cost 15-20 mil per year anyway.

  246. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 1:33 pm

    a-point I am not making much progress with my points because you are not too smart….My points are fine it is your limited ability to think that is the problem.. again if you loved the last 4 yrs with afraud you will love the next 10 yrs. with afraud..

    I guess this really is the ME generation….

    Why do the red sux players hate afraud>. They do not hate jeter or others they respect jeter and others.. The reason they hate afraud is simple he is a fraud…..

  247. pat November 14th, 2007 at 1:35 pm

    Interesting listening to Mike and Dog today to hear the callers. The ones who want A-Rod back seem to have logic behind their position. “Vinny” is the only one who didn’t want him back yet and everything he said was an emotional reaction not a logical one. Maybe that’s the difference in fans opinions here too. Some think with their hearts and some think with their heads.

  248. mel November 14th, 2007 at 1:35 pm

    “Remember, you don’t have to be Jewish to eat Kosher” Example of Mad Dog’s voice over.

  249. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 1:36 pm

    It’s crazy how the rumor Miller posted here a few nights ago is printed in the papers today.

    Either there’s some truth the Arod story, or the writers from the Daily News and the Post are reading this comments section for story ideas.

    I for one think there’s teeth to it now. Miller deserves props for his scoop.

    I’ll take Arod back if he comes back the way it’s being reported.

    Then we can save the prospects for Johan and forget Cabrera and get this team back in the World Series.

  250. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 1:37 pm

    “I wasn’t paying attention to Bernie’s contract negotiations, but I’m pretty sure that he didn’t ask the Yankees to forgo $21M and then cough it up themselves (which happened on the night of Game 4 of the World Series, not in today’s newspapers).”

    right.

    but i am saying if Alex gives back that $21M out of his own pocket, why would we not accept that?

    if that happens (and i still am very skeptical), then the $21M was just a number and a bunch of words printed in the newspaper. in the end, it wouldn’t mean anything at all.

  251. ~Adam. November 14th, 2007 at 1:37 pm

    This is all media manipulation by Boras. He’s not dumb. He needs the Yankees to at least appear interested or he’ll never get the price he wants.

  252. The Biz Markie November 14th, 2007 at 1:37 pm

    If we could fill third base by bringing back A-Rod, we would be able to save our prospects for a run at either Cy-tana or Scott Kazmir. It’s a move we have to make…

  253. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 1:38 pm

    Funny, on the Daily News site there is a poll asking if “you want A-Rod back”? 64% yes votes.

  254. Miller November 14th, 2007 at 1:38 pm

    I cant believe this panned out myself. I just want to see it done before we all get too excited.

    However, this could take weeks.

  255. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 1:39 pm

    yeah miller, i guess you were right. Good for you

  256. JMAC November 14th, 2007 at 1:39 pm

    I think this is going to happen…though I believe this is all orchestrated. Sounds like a game of good cop/bad cop. Either way, if the Yankees can sign him and not give up any chips…that puts them more in play for making trades during the year.

  257. randy l. November 14th, 2007 at 1:40 pm

    i’m kind of puzzled why the story is arod here. aren’t we all wondering why rivera isn’t jumping all over 45 million for three years?
    it’s amazing how the yankees are in a position where they have to overpay to keep core players like rivera and posada. do any of you really think that the dunderheads that got them into this position can sit across the table from boras and not get eaten for lunch?

  258. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 1:42 pm

    Madden in available on an audio clip at the Daily News website telling his story.

    Interesting, at present, the deal is described as being brokered by “intermediaries.” Hmmmmmmm. Reggie? Who else has the stature to do it and would be trusted by both A-Rod and the Yankees?

    Oh wait, my bad. It’s probably Suzyn Waldman.

  259. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 1:43 pm

    “Remember, you don’t have to be Jewish to eat Kosher” Example of Mad Dog’s voice over.

    Well, it’s true isn’t it?

  260. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    I think Boras and Arod have a lot more to lose if this story is true and they are doing it just to draw the Yanks back in and get more money from another team.

    I know things can’t get much worse for Arod public perception wise in NY right now, but if he was tricking the Yankees back to the table and bolted for Boston or Anaheim after doing so, the amount of hate that would put upon him would pretty much ensure he and his wife shouldn’t set a foot on a NYC city street for the rest of his playing career.

    I hope he’s not that dumb that he thinks he’s outsmarting the Yanks.

    If he shows a little humility here and comes back and gets a fat deal and says the opt out was a mistake and he just wanted to be a Yankee, I’m sure we all will get over whatever bad feelings we’ve had.

    If he’s using the Yankees to get to 350 million in Anaheim or Boston, then he shouldn’t worry about people throwing fake money at him at Yankee Stadium next season. He should be ready to duck rocks and batteries from the stands.

  261. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    Madden’s MP3 clip:

    http://multimedia.nydailynews......ddarod.mp3

  262. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 1:45 pm

    Stuart, where do you get your “wealth” of knowledge about how other teams’ players feel toward A-Rod? I guess you know that A-Rod works out with Manny Ramirez and is friendly with Ortiz as well. Two big major players for that team, but that is just something that doesn’t fit with your argument.

    Honestly, I doubt you can tie your own shoes, as for subtle points coming from you… sorry, but you can’t seem to put two coherent thoughts together in a sentence, let alone stringing together a complete argument.

    It is better when you actually know something and comment, then make up stuff and get called on it.

  263. mel November 14th, 2007 at 1:46 pm

    If these rumors are true, I wonder if Alex is headed down a road of no return. If the Yankees and he don’t come to a deal after Alex wanted to engage the Yankees, then will that be humiliating for him? Or will it depend on how much he ultimately gets?

    Also, I’m confused on why he would ever want such a long contract, with a smaller per annum. I think that he’d be better off with shorter, fatter contracts.
    ____________________________________________________

    hmmm,

    If it’s good enough for the Yankees, it’s good enough for me. But really, the Yankees deserve an Oscar for their hardball acting performances.

  264. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 1:47 pm

    G. Love:

    Rocks versus batteries? Batteries every time. They are smoother, more symmetrical, easier to throw, the 9 volt ones have those two nasty prongs on top and four corners. Even after they don’t work in your stun gun anymore, they still hurt like heck when used as projectiles.

    Oh.. Feinsand is on now….

  265. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 1:47 pm

    go to :
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Russo

    and read the doggieisms… THAT IS GOOD STUFF

  266. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 1:47 pm

    I don’t know if I want Alex back. My heart says no (for what he did), my mind says yes we need him back. I just don’t like the length the deal would have to be.

  267. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 1:48 pm

    If all this talk is Boras and A-Rod looking to sweeten the pot, it will backfire worse than his opting out has done.

    I would think that Boras and A-Rod aren’t that stupid to go that route.

  268. Jeff in MA November 14th, 2007 at 1:48 pm

    Tyler Kepner at the Times is now running this story also:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11.....ks.html?hp

    Looks like he’s got it from his own sources and isn’t just quoting the Daily News.. unless I missed that with a quick read-through.

  269. mel November 14th, 2007 at 1:49 pm

    http://www.wfan.com/

    “After 16 years of being led around by a leash, we’re supposed to believe…” LOL

  270. The Biz Markie November 14th, 2007 at 1:49 pm

    I too wonder why the Yankees insist on waiting till someone’s contract is up (e.g., Bernie, Mo, Jorge), when it’s clear they’ll have to overpay. My only guess is that they believe it might remove a player’s motivation to have a big year as many players seem to have career seasons in their walk years.

  271. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 1:50 pm

    could you imagine if jeter was the one working this?

  272. SHARP SHOOTER November 14th, 2007 at 1:50 pm

    Okay,say Arod swallows his pride and comes back(hyperbole.)
    Which Arod will the Yankees be getting?He always over thought things,as a head case.Will the Yankees and fans see the same guy in 2007,or heaven for bid the one in 2006?

    Well the real Arod please step forward!

  273. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 1:50 pm

    Jeter as the back channel suspect

  274. mel November 14th, 2007 at 1:52 pm

    El Comaduce,

    Might work because that’s the last person you expect. But, I thought that Jeter hates Alex. :)

  275. what? November 14th, 2007 at 1:54 pm

    how did you make that horizontal line jennifer?

  276. The Biz Markie November 14th, 2007 at 1:54 pm

    It could be Kevin Long, as suggested by Mike F. on WFAN.

  277. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 1:55 pm

    Going back to the star wars logic… Jeter is like luke skywalker trying to save the soul of Darth Rod…

  278. Tommy November 14th, 2007 at 1:57 pm

    Francesa did not know that Long was still with the Yanks!
    Incredible.

  279. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 1:59 pm

    Feinsand:

    “I think (A-Rod will) be a Yankee, and I think it’ll get done in the next 4-5 days.”

  280. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 1:59 pm

    no matter what happens it could always be worse… We could be knick fans..

  281. mel November 14th, 2007 at 1:59 pm

    Tommy,

    I think that was a lead-in to their suspicion. Is Alex really that close to Long? He was only there for a year, but he raved about him. Who knows with Alex. Good move to retain Kevin Long.

  282. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 2:00 pm

    M&MD are only useful for WHO they bring on the air, not WHAT.

  283. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 2:00 pm

    If this Arod stuff turns out to be true, wouldn’t you say the Yankees got the best of Boras?

    They get Arod for less money than Boras wanted AND get him out of the process. They also take control of rehabbing Arods’s PR, not an easy task.

    If and its still a BIG IF, this gets done, then the Yankees become the first team to EVER back down Scott Boras.

    Pretty good for so called “no nothing” owners.

  284. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 2:01 pm

    “i’m kind of puzzled why the story is arod here. aren’t we all wondering why rivera isn’t jumping all over 45 million for three years? it’s amazing how the yankees are in a position where they have to overpay to keep core players like rivera and posada. ”

    first off, there is a story out there that A-Rod might be negotiating with the yankees without Boras and you are “puzzled” why that would be a big story? i doubt that.

    second, give it a few days on Mo.

    the way i remember it, you were somewhat in favor of replacing Torre. you also believe Posada was in good enough shape to be productive for the next 4 years. if you believe that, then you must like the Posada contract, no?

    finally, you criticized the Yankees heavily for refusing to negotiate with A-Rod after opting out. if we believe this story (and i don’t know if i do), it seems like they ARE negotiating, and that their hard line in the sand MAY have brought Alex back to the table without Boras.

    sounds like the Yankees are doing OK based on your criteria, no?

    if Mariano does re-sign, i’d call that a victory too. maybe it will cost them an extra $2M per season, but it would have cost them $30M+ or whatever if his elbow wasn’t healthy.

    if Mo bolts, i’ll share your frustrations.

    if Mo signs, A-Rod comes back, and we know Posada is back, i don’t see what you’ll have to complain about ;)

  285. T November 14th, 2007 at 2:01 pm

    HE knows all things…

    Hallowed be his name.

  286. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 2:01 pm

    A-Rod credits Kevin Long with fixing his swing over the course of last winter (minimizing his leg kick and keeping his hands back).

  287. Scooter November 14th, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    Feinsand just finished up on Mike and Mad Dog.

    He thinks that ARod could get wrapped up in 4-5 days. The Yankees want to finish Mo up first. Feinsand is pretty optimistic – 10 years/275 mil.

  288. T November 14th, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    Francesa that is.

  289. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 2:03 pm

    “If this Arod stuff turns out to be true, wouldn’t you say the Yankees got the best of Boras?”

    LOL…that’s like saying, “the Knicks have a few issues to address…”

    We’ll have to see how it plays out, but maybe that means that YES’ library of available “classics” just increased 10 fold.

  290. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 2:03 pm

    Question

    Lets say he resigns with the Yanks. Will that push Rivera out the door(after AFAKE threw him under the bus on the 04 post season)?

    Could this also be a ploy from the Yanks to drive up the price for their competitors? If they know they dont want him, why not make the next team pay more.

  291. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 2:03 pm

    For all parties involved, excluding the fans, A-Rod and the Yankees makes the most sense. Yankees still have their lineup, no prospects given up for a player who they don’t know if they will be able to play in NY, A-Rod can find a home team.

    I always thought that the Yankees and A-Rod were a match.

    We will see how this goes, but if the talks fall short, it won’t increase A-Rod’s bids with other teams because then its a dead end with the Yankees.

  292. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 2:04 pm

    El Comaduce:

    Jeter? But that would make Darth-Rod Derek’s father… ewww…

    But that would be the best punchline to this story imaginable. By the way, Feinsand seemed sure this deal gets don in 4 or 5 days. I wonder who he’s talking to?

  293. mel November 14th, 2007 at 2:04 pm

    What?

    Did you mean mel? If you did, then just use the underscore key repetitively to get the horizontal line.

  294. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 2:04 pm

    Two guesses as who the back channel guy would be if that person is associated with the Yankees:

    1. Reggie, who is very close to Arod.
    2. Jason Zillo, the PR director. One of the few people who Arod confides in who works for the Yankees.

  295. mel November 14th, 2007 at 2:07 pm

    S.o.S.27,

    I don’t think they mind driving up the price. They just didn’t want to end up with their hand on the top of the bat at the end. Drive up the price and have a competitor have less to work with? Great. Drive up the price to find that no one else is bidding against you and you’re stuck with the bid? Not great.

  296. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 2:07 pm

    “Lets say he resigns with the Yanks. Will that push Rivera out the door(after AFAKE threw him under the bus on the 04 post season)?”

    A-Rod and Mo are friends.

    i am sure that Mo understands that Boras is just doing his job.

    let’s not pretend that players don’t LOVE IT when other players get huge contracts. in the end, that can only mean more money for them.

    Mo understands Boras is the best at what he does and Boras, probably more than anyone else besides Mo himself and his own agent, is responsible for many additional millions in Mo’s pocket.

    A-Rod’s contract made many other players a lot richer.

  297. Scooter November 14th, 2007 at 2:09 pm

    Murph

    Great sound byte from Bill Madden

    Strong words – he accuses Boras of “brainwashing” Alex

    There’s also talk of a number of highly-respected ‘intermediaries’ brokering this deal

    Again – you wonder if Kevin Long is involved.. .or if any teammates (like Johnny Damon) might be involved

  298. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 2:10 pm

    Hey Miller, how big is your SE grin right about now?

    For those who don’t know what the SE stand for, be creative.

  299. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 2:10 pm

    Zillo? Very interesting. Going through the media guy.

    Zillo has instant credibility as a source, speaks for the Yankees, knows how to source without being quoted, can orchestrate the media storm without saying the wrong thing, strikes fear into the heart of anybody who might out him as the source (You’ll never get a call back from Cash again).

    Zillo… very interesting.

  300. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 2:10 pm

    Rivera isn’t leaving because of Arod. Arod has the perfect bad guy for that comment…..Boras, since he said it! lol

    One deal has nothing to do with the other.

  301. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 2:11 pm

    And yes, must give props to Miller – - whoever you are. I doubted you. I was … wrong.

  302. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 2:11 pm

    S.o.S.27
    November 14th, 2007 at 2:03 pm
    Question

    Lets say he resigns with the Yanks. Will that push Rivera out the door(after AFAKE threw him under the bus on the 04 post season)?

    Could this also be a ploy from the Yanks to drive up the price for their competitors? If they know they dont want him, why not make the next team pay more.

    How can it drive up the price with competitors if the talks with the Yankees fail? I see this as a take it or leave situation for both parties, unless they feel they are close, and even then it excludes others from getting in the game.

    I don’t see the Mo situation either. Remember, it was Boras not A-Rod who made the statement. Boras comes out behind on both counts.

    On ARod.com he states that he probably feels closest to Mo. That also would seem to negate there being bad feelings from Mo toward A-Rod. Who knows, maybe Mo is the negotiator for him. Stranger things have happened.

    I just don’t see where this could be a ploy by Boras to get in others, it wouldn’t work and he is smarter than that.

  303. raymagnetic November 14th, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    Miller, I missed your post the other day but what exactly did you say and where did you get your information?

  304. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 2:13 pm

    10 years 275 mil? Hes 32 years old. What the heck are they planning on doing with him after the 6th year. I guess pinch hitting him for his last 4 wont be so bad. I mean with inflation and all. Seriously. 10 years?

  305. Bill November 14th, 2007 at 2:14 pm

    I’ve been expecting all along that the Yankees at some point would get back involved. I just didn’t think they wanted him to shop around something. A-Rod match’s NY’s needs more than any other team. I live in Los Angeles and I’d be shocked if the Angels would pay more than NY would. They already sell out their games and are locked into a long term TV contract. Its a money losing proposition, notwithstanding what it’s impact on the salary demands of their own players like Vlad who would be making half of what A-Rod expects. Trading some of their prospects for Cabrera makes much more sense for the Angels.

  306. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    Miller called it. He said Arod was talking to the Yankees.

    He didn’t pull it out of thin air….he backed it up.

    He definitely was first to the food line with this info.

  307. J-Dawg November 14th, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    It would be truly amazing if Alex gets a 10-year, $275 million contract. If Alex does a good enough job of saving his money after the contract ends, he can purchase the Tampa Bay Rays franchise. That franchise is only worth $267 million!!

  308. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 2:18 pm

    Why couldn’t A-Rod move to first after he’s done playing 3rd? Then to DH.

    Also, as another enticement, he could end up as the Yankee Captain with that long a term to his contract after Jeter retires- even if its only a few years, it locks him in place for when he nears/surpasses the HR record, it makes him a Yankee.

  309. raymagnetic November 14th, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    O I C SJ, thanks.

  310. mel November 14th, 2007 at 2:21 pm

    S.o.S.27,

    That sounds low. For goodness sake, Ichiro makes $20M. And Alex was set to make $32M in ’08 and ’09. That does not get it done.

    I say $160M/5 yrs and then Barry type of contracts after that. Using the homerun chase to extend the partnership.

  311. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 2:24 pm

    From a money/PR standpoint, he might be worth more to the yankees and YES in the last couple years of the contract… If he is not on that Steroid List…

  312. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 2:25 pm

    Why couldn’t A-Rod move to first after he’s done playing 3rd? Then to DH.

    So we replace one old run down guy(posada),with another. I know he keeps himself in good shape but come on a 40 year old player. There is only one Bonds(hgh). All I could think about is Mays and Ruth trying to extend thier carreers. We are stuck with Giambi’s lame a$$ and his rediculous contract. Dont want someone to take his place on the bench. 7 years is plenty.

  313. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 2:25 pm

    What? I’m not sure what you are asking? Are you referring to the dash that it is my name? You use the key next to the + sign.

  314. pat November 14th, 2007 at 2:25 pm

    Miller

    I immediately thought of you when I read the news article this morning. We don’t need the NY media (sorry Pete!)as long as we have Miller and Jorge’s doorman. Anyone know Mariano’s tailor or housekeeper? Andy’s newspaper boy? We need answers!!!

  315. Dan from Mass November 14th, 2007 at 2:26 pm

    Can someone tell me where to find this now-legendary Miller scoop? I know it was in the comments “3 days ago”, but as a comment to which of Peter’s posts?

    Thanks! BTW, 27.5 guaranteed through age 42 goes seem risky…

  316. ~Adam. November 14th, 2007 at 2:27 pm

    What would you believe more?

    Boras manipulates the media to make it seem like the Yankees are trying to sign A Rod?

    or, A Rod leaving money on the table for the sake of returning to his team?

    c’mon people, this is all Boras. A Rod is going to the Angels, he was always going to the Angels, and now that the Angels are the only bidders, they’re not offering enough. Boras needs the Yankees.

  317. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 2:27 pm

    mel-I say $160M/5 yrs and then Barry type of contracts after that. Using the homerun chase to extend the partnership.

    Where do I sign.

  318. mel November 14th, 2007 at 2:27 pm

    jennifer,

    lol. I think he got us mixed up. I used a line in my 1:46 post.

  319. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 2:29 pm

    That amount may be without incentives for certain milestones. Maybe A-Rod would rather take that deal than leave.

  320. Miller November 14th, 2007 at 2:29 pm

    “Hey Miller, how big is your SE grin right about now?

    For those who don’t know what the SE stand for, be creative.”

    From ear to ear, baby!

  321. Phil November 14th, 2007 at 2:29 pm

    stuart,

    The Yanks are dumping over 80M in payroll at the end of `08. That has nothing to do with ARod, and if they can keep him under 30M per, it’s a no brainer.

  322. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 2:30 pm

    what happens first – we blow up the new server with all this posting or arod signs…

  323. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 2:31 pm

    ~Adam, how does having talks with the Yankees drive up the Angels price they are willing to pay? The Yankees will either get him or they are done with him. That won’t change what the Angels would get to pay.

  324. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 2:32 pm

    Mel. Oh okay. I was confused!

  325. mel November 14th, 2007 at 2:32 pm

    S.o.S.27

    For you or A-rod?

    But doesn’t it make sense? He can get the $$ he wants and the Yankees can get the years they want. I can handle “The Bold and the Beautiful” for 5 years, but 10 years? Oi! My hope is that Alex uses some of his newfound wealth to buy himself a personality. j/k A-rod luvas.

    It seems that it’s not the salary that makes the contracts albatrosses, it’s the years.

  326. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 2:32 pm

    Blow up the server. :D

  327. mel November 14th, 2007 at 2:34 pm

    Hell may freeze over before A-rod re-signs.

  328. pat November 14th, 2007 at 2:34 pm

    Miller
    November 12th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
    OK well take this with a grain of salt. Again TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.

    But I have a friend who works with agent Peter Greenberg and he has heard the A-Rod was so mad of the way Boras handled this whole situation that he went behind Boras’ back and is negotiating a deal with Cashman that could come as early as tomorrow. Its 10 years, 27.2 a year with incentive clauses. Those incentives being more money when he hits 600, 650 and then passes Babe, Hank and Bonds…

    ok once again… PLEASE DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSENGER. IM NOT SAYING I BELIEVE I AM JUST PASSING IT ALONG.

  329. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 2:36 pm

    The long term contract can work for both parties. There won’t be any more of the drama with him opting out, cause I guarantee you the Yankees wouldn’t allow that in a contract – that would be a deal breaker after all this stuff.

    He is locked up, can have a shot at being the HR king, can get all kinds of merchandise $$$$$ – probably more as a Yankee than any other team.

    I don’t see him becoming a Giambi in later years.

  330. Sara November 14th, 2007 at 2:36 pm

    Talk is that A-Rod will be signing with the Yankees within 4-5 days.

  331. mel November 14th, 2007 at 2:37 pm

    Pat,

    Thanks for that. Now I remember. Good job Miller! Either that’s true or Miller is Feinsand’s source. lol.

  332. YANKS2 November 14th, 2007 at 2:38 pm

    A-rod is the best player in the game.. How could you not want this guy back in pinstripes?

  333. Miller November 14th, 2007 at 2:38 pm

    I actually do work in the business. wink.

  334. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 2:39 pm

    Good article on CNNSI about how the padres built there bullpen:
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

    the comparison of them to the orioles is fantastic…

  335. mel November 14th, 2007 at 2:39 pm

    Miller
    November 14th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
    I actually do work in the business. wink.

    Is that you, Scott?

  336. Peter Rabbit November 14th, 2007 at 2:40 pm

    I got it! Miller is ESPN announcer JON MILLER! Nice to meet you! Do you ever just want to slap Joe Morgan? How have you stopped yourself for all these years?!

  337. Nicknames November 14th, 2007 at 2:40 pm

    I understand that baseball fans will twist players’ names into not-so-clever puns. But they at least make some sort of sense on an infantile/juvenile insult level. But how is calling Scott Boras ‘Borat’ in any way insulting? Borat is infinitely more cool and entertaining, and way less infuriating than Boras. I think Bor-Ass would be a better, though still a rather stupid, nickname/pun.

  338. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 2:40 pm

    I’m less worried about Arod moving to 1b or DH later in his career than I am about Jorge during years 3 and 4 of his deal.

    If Arod signed, I can totally envision him becoming an Edgar Martinez type DH late in his career.

    I hope where there’s smoke there is fire and this story is going to happen.

    I don’t dislike Arod the player, I dislike Arod the Boras robot. If he is willing to be a man and talk to the Yankees face to face without his minion at his side, then he has come a long way.

    I hope it works out.

    If it doesn’t, then I’ll make sure to tell all my relatives to give me 9 volt batteries for X-mas. From my seats on the left field line, I have a good clean shot at Arod if need be, lol.

  339. Brandon (I want Arod but fire Boras first, please land me a Kazmir) November 14th, 2007 at 2:40 pm

    Pete goes on vacation on the same day fishy :D

  340. YANKS2 November 14th, 2007 at 2:40 pm

    A-rod is the best player baseball has to offer.. BRING HIM BACK TO THE BRONX!!!!!!!!!!!!

  341. Laura November 14th, 2007 at 2:41 pm

    It would seem to me that maybe A-Fraud isn’t finding the money he was looking for and decided that it would be best to return to the Yankees. I’ll say this – he needs to take out a full page ad in all of the New York Metro papers apologizing to the fans or he will get booed opening day 2008.

    I still say he signs with the Angels.

  342. Blah November 14th, 2007 at 2:42 pm

    If this all does come to fruition, I hope this will finally end any belief at all in the prognosticative skills of the guy whose name sits at the top of this website. Pete’s been perpetually shown to be driven by his own bitterness and desires about this team, as dispassionate as he pretends to be. Torre was staying, Mattingly was getting hired, etc. etc. blah blah. I’m sure at some point he’ll emerge from his hole and say that I failed to point out many examples, but the vitriol he spews on this blog is so clearly slanted based on his personal and undisclosed leanings. A-Rod is the prime example. Perhaps A-Rod took Pete’s girlfriend for his own mannish girlfriend harem or something, but I don’t know how he gets around with such an axe to grind. Also of note, his constant pumping of CMW hilariously as an ace, which is surely tied to his love off making money off his book on the guy. Despite his resentment of the players doing as much, Pete’s not afraid to follow the money.

  343. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 2:42 pm

    Hey Nicknames,

    Nothing has made me gag more this offseason that all this Mo & Po garbage.

    I understand the Mo, but the Po thing just infuriates me. It makes me want to kick the screen everytime I see Jorge called Po.

    As for the Borat nickname, I also agree with you. I’m not sure what that is a slam against Boras.

  344. Brandon (I want Arod but fire Boras first, please land me a Kazmir) November 14th, 2007 at 2:43 pm

    Miller

    November 12th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
    OK well take this with a grain of salt. Again TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.

    But I have a friend who works with agent Peter Greenberg and he has heard the A-Rod was so mad of the way Boras handled this whole situation that he went behind Boras’ back and is negotiating a deal with Cashman that could come as early as tomorrow.

    Its 10 years, 27.2 a year with incentive clauses. Those incentives being more money when he hits 600, 650 and then passes Babe, Hank and Bonds…

    ok once again… PLEASE DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSENGER. IM NOT SAYING I BELIEVE I AM JUST PASSING IT ALONG.

    I mean damn Miller who needs Peter Gammons

  345. Doreen November 14th, 2007 at 2:43 pm

    You know, today was supposed to be the day I started to limit myself from this blog. Oh, well… :) As Scarlet said, “Tomorrow is another day!” Only I have a feeling that the news regarding Mr. Rodriguez has turned that saying into, “Tomorrow never comes!”

    I really don’t want to be made into a fool, taken in by some Machiavellian scheme by Boras and ARod. So, I’m keeping arms distance, psychologically/emotionally speaking.

    Anyone ever see “Rent?” There’s a song called “The Tango Maureen” about how even though this very egotistical person steps all over you, have still want to be involved. That’s what this situation is to me. I hope it’s true; but I won’t be surprised if it isn’t. I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop.

  346. Theresa November 14th, 2007 at 2:45 pm

    El Comaduce,

    I’ve been an avid reader but only an occassional poster to this blog. I have to say I am really enjoying your comments today. Thanks for giving me a few laughs today and keeping me entertained!

  347. raymagnetic November 14th, 2007 at 2:46 pm

    Matt (New York, NY): Ian Kennedy or Al Horne?

    Jim Callis: (2:37 PM ET ) Kennedy. Horne has better stuff but I trust Kennedy more.

    Is this true? Alan Horne has better stuff than Kennedy?

  348. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 2:46 pm

    Does anyone know if Posada’s deal has a no trade clause and if that would be the same with Mo and Alex? That seems to be the biggest problem with all these inflated contracts. Other teams may want them for half the cost, but there is always that hickup in dealing them.(N.T.C.)

    I vote NO to no trade clause. Time to be more flexable. And I almost forgot,a definate no to players opt out clause.

  349. Jersey November 14th, 2007 at 2:47 pm

    Brandon…you mean….PETE is AROD?!

  350. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 2:47 pm

    I like Pete. I think he does a great job with this blog.

    But, if this Arod thing comes to pass, the way Pete came out and shut the door on Miller’s scoop a few days ago before any of the press had it, looks a little bad.

    Miller may have posted one of the biggest scoops of the off season in Pete’s blog.

    Pete can react any way he wants to. He’s earned that right.

    But the scoop was here first before the News, Post and Times ran it today 2 days later.

  351. mel November 14th, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    Doreen,

    I’m with you. I have a hard time believing that Alex wanted to come back all along. If he did, then he should’ve signed a very lucrative extension when he had the opportunity. He could’ve named his price. Now, in the words of the famous Mike or Mad Dog (sorry, really hard to differentiate between the two, they really grate the nerves)he’s back to square one. All that goodwill is gone and he gets to build it back up.

    Wait and see. That’s all we can do. It’s better than coming up with endless trade scenarios that send away Robbie and Phil. :)

  352. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    Can’t call it any better than Miller called it.

    If there is a blog cocktail hour, folks can’t let Miller dip into his pocket that evening.

    That’s pretty solid info.

    You know what would be hysterical? If, on Arod’s MVP conference call on Monday, he announces he is returning to the Yankees.

    That would go a long way into restoring some positive PR for him, as well as knocking Monday Night Football off the lead story of the day.

  353. Doreen November 14th, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    Mel -

    Amen to that (trade rumors!).

    G.Love –

    Maybe Pete actually DID believe Miller’s post, and is right now getting off a plane in Florida somewhere ready to be the first with an Alex Interview!

  354. Pocono Chris November 14th, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    Maybe Miller is really Boras and we are all getting duped here.

  355. randyhater November 14th, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    Is there anything more pathetic than the A-Fraud acolytes/battered wives on here who sit up at night crying, waiting, hoping for the golden god to please, please, please come back? How many times is this guy gonna take a dump in your mouth before you see him for what he is: a two-bit phony who’ll say and do anything to put a few more greasy shekels in his filthy pocket.

    This is all a stunt to leverage more money out of the Angels, Giants, or Dodgers. Nothing more, nothing less. That pathetic choke-artist will never wear Pinstripes again, thank God.

    Let the healing begin.

  356. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 2:52 pm

    Madden in available on an audio clip at the Daily News website telling his story.

    Interesting, at present, the deal is described as being brokered by “intermediaries.” Hmmmmmmm. Reggie? Who else has the stature to do it and would be trusted by both A-Rod and the Yankees?

    Kevin Long…………………….right Miller? (wink wink)

  357. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 2:52 pm

    Posada and Rivera are 10 and 5 guys. They can’t be traded from the Yankees without their permission.

    Their 10 and 5 status remains in effect as long as they remain with the Yankees.

    That is, in essence, a no trade clause.

  358. SHARP SHOOTER November 14th, 2007 at 2:53 pm

    The saga continues AS the Yankees Turns

    Will Arod return? Will he fire Boras?
    Will the Li’l Stein’s bury the hatchet?
    Will the fans forgive?

    Will the NY sports writers have anything to write about……stay tuned for the finale

  359. wood is good November 14th, 2007 at 2:53 pm

    The back pages of this Sunday’s newspapers are going to be trumpeting the resigning of a certain 3rd baseman. And I don’t mean Lowell.

    This is going to be HUGE.

  360. Sara November 14th, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    What a day for Pete to go on vacation!

  361. J-Dawg November 14th, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    I guess that I will wait and see what happens before I pass judgment on anything. It just amazes me how much attention that Rodriguez generates. The guy has a knack for being the center of attention. It’s almost uncanny.

  362. mel November 14th, 2007 at 2:55 pm

    Maybe Miller is really Boras and we are all getting duped here.

    Pocono Chris,

    I was just going to ask if I am the only one here who thinks that Miller’s post 2 days ago gives validity to the rumors?

    But your post makes my idea sound kind of silly. Everybody knows this is Grand Central Station for Yankee fans.

  363. pat November 14th, 2007 at 2:55 pm

    J-Dawg

    And he hasn’t said a word in 5 weeks.

  364. Miller November 14th, 2007 at 2:57 pm

    Listen nothing is done until A-rod signs on the line.

  365. DSQ November 14th, 2007 at 2:57 pm

    How do you like these new reports that A-Rod wants to meet with the Yanks without Boras and fully realizes that he’d have to give the Yanks a major discount in order to do it. It seems like A-Rod couldn’t stand being public enemy number one!

  366. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 2:57 pm

    Funny that Heyman and Newsday are the only NY tabloid not reporting this. We all know Boras has Heyman in his hip pocket.

  367. J-Dawg November 14th, 2007 at 2:58 pm

    pat- Yeah, he’s definitely different from Terrell Owens. T.O. usually has to talk to get all of his attention, but Rodriguez doesn’t have to utter a single word to get in the news. Amazing.

  368. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 2:58 pm

    Doreen,

    Pete didn’t seem to believe it. He made it a point to call it out as most likely false right off the bat.

    Listen, I know that 99.99% of the stuff you read in here is rumors and you take it all with a grain of salt.

    All I’m saying is that if Pete didn’t make a few calls to see if there was any smoke as to what Miller had posted, it looks a little bad now that all the other NY dailies are running with this.

    When Miller dropped Peter Greenburg’s name in his post, it kind of lent a little bit of intrigue to what he posted the other night. I thought it was probably false, but I didn’t out and out dismiss it.

    What would truly crack me up is that all the other dailies got this scoop from Miller’s comments here and it’s completely false.

    In that scenario, Pete wins the prize for smartest writer in town and should get to wear a Burger King paper crown next season in the press box.

  369. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 2:59 pm

    SJ44,
    Even though its a new contract and not an option in their existing one?

  370. nate c. November 14th, 2007 at 3:00 pm

    blah – then leave and don’t read here. we’re fine without you

  371. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 3:00 pm

    Po (thats for you G. Love) is a 10/5 guy which essentially means he has a no trade.

  372. Laura November 14th, 2007 at 3:00 pm

    Did you guys see the Manager of the Year votes? Torre was third and got more first place votes that Sciosica. Wedge won of course. Francona was a distant fourth.

  373. Gotham City November 14th, 2007 at 3:00 pm

    ARod has already signed a contract with the Yanks a few hours ago. I don’t know the details of it but it’s probably in line with Millers inside info. I imagine that it would be announced tonight or within the next day or so.

  374. Fat Man in Tiny Coat November 14th, 2007 at 3:01 pm

    Where’s Miller so I can suck his virtual dick?

    C’mere ya big hunk of man…’rawr mmppfff rawr’ *gag*

    I wonder what made Pete so dismissive of Miller’s story a few days ago? Is it A-Rod-esque arrogance in thinking a mere commenter couldn’t POSSIBLY know more about the goings’ on than Pete?

    Whatever the case, Pete needs to apologize…maybe let Miller do some guest articles.

  375. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 3:02 pm

    “he needs to take out a full page ad in all of the New York Metro papers apologizing to the fans or he will get booed opening day 2008.”

    and how is that different from opening day 2007 when he was booed?

    give me a break.

    why doesn’t everyone here take out an ad and apologize for wanting him traded last off-season b/c he had the nerve to be mortal for a season and ONLY hit 35 HRs?

    why don’t the yankee fans take out an ad and apologize for booing him for years?

    you guys are acting like yankee fans have showed him nothing but love for 4 years and now he has the nerve to exercise a contractual right that everyone knew he had in his contract.

    he will probably be very contrite about the way things went down, but overall he doesn’t owe NY anything more than giving 100% when he is on the field.

  376. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 3:03 pm

    Jennifer,

    You owe me a new monitor. I just kicked it!

  377. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 3:03 pm

    I have a soft spot for arod because his pops left him when he was young… And coming for a similar situation (minus the baseball talent) – this can create a void where you are looking for a real father figure and looking for approval.. Boras has been with him since he was 17… This really might be the first time when arod is going against boras..

    // El Comaduce gets off the psychiatrist’s couch and goes back to writing really bad jsp code…

  378. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 3:04 pm

    Mel: Maybe Miller is the newspapers source? Maybe they came on this blog and read his wild rumor and ran with it. :)

    Seriously can someone link and put a time to Millers post. I’d like to read it.

  379. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 3:04 pm

    ARod has already signed a contract with the Yanks a few hours ago. I don’t know the details of it but it’s probably in line with Millers inside info. I imagine that it would be announced tonight or within the next day or so.

    Gotham, where are you getting this info, or is it a guess?

  380. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 3:05 pm

    Fatboy and Puppy. NO ONE CARES ABOUT NOTRE DAME, ESPECIALLY IN NY.

  381. Sara November 14th, 2007 at 3:05 pm

    Gotham, where did you get that info?

  382. PittsburghYankeeFan November 14th, 2007 at 3:05 pm

    G Love

    Right on. Maybe the NY papers got the story from this blog…wouldn’t that be a hoot.

  383. pat November 14th, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    jennifer

    I already did. Look up in the comments a little bit.

  384. SHARP SHOOTER November 14th, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    Oh my goodness,Cashman came out of the gm mtgs in florida saying that he knew that the yankees would have a 3base player.He said He wasn’t going to say anything now.Go back a read his comments from a few days ago,it’s loaded with inuendos,it makes sense now!

  385. ~Adam. November 14th, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    A-POINT, all I’m saying is that if this does pan out, and A Rod signs with the Yanks, it would be AMAZING.

    “The Yanks about to sign A Rod” stories drive the price up for the Angels and anyone else who might be interested.

  386. Paul9 November 14th, 2007 at 3:07 pm

    Foxsports is saying they have been talking to lowell about first? Anybody hear anything about this

  387. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 3:07 pm

    “This is all a stunt to leverage more money out of the Angels, Giants, or Dodgers. Nothing more, nothing less. That pathetic choke-artist will never wear Pinstripes again, thank God. ”

    i guess we’ll see.

    you have stated your stance.

    if he does come back, then by your definition he was genuine about wanting to be a yankee.

    we’ll see.

  388. Doreen November 14th, 2007 at 3:08 pm

    G.Love –

    I had my tongue firmly in cheek. I don’t think Pete was buyin’ at the time, either. :)

    It sure would be an incredible hoax if indeed Miller’s post was the source and it suckered everyone in. (No offense, Miller – you passed around the box of salt.) But either way, it’s the biggest off-season stories since — since ARod signed with the Yankees!

    I’m surprised that Torre was third in the voting. I was hoping for the irony of winning the manager of the year after having left the team. But seriously, I thought no lower than 2nd.

  389. mel November 14th, 2007 at 3:08 pm

    Ducky,

    Not enough time to add all the incentive clauses and fine tooth comb it. The last contract gave him $1.5M for the 3rd MVP and beyond. The contract will probably up that considerably. Unbelievable that he’s won 3 in his relatively short career. The voters love him, but according to the polls at espn.com fans don’t want him by a margin of 2:1.

  390. PittsburghYankeeFan November 14th, 2007 at 3:09 pm

    Pete’s OK.

    Maybe ARod stole his stripper…who knows?

    PS–I just saw some of the aliens land in Central Park. They are making a last minute, take it or leave it offer for ARod to play for Jupiter in the Galacatic League. This was the team Boras had in his back pocket.

  391. Laura November 14th, 2007 at 3:10 pm

    “why don’t the yankee fans take out an ad and apologize for booing him for years?”

    I don’t know about you, but I never booed A-Dog. In fact, I have done nothing but support him since he first showed up in pinstripes. Does he owe me an apology? Yes, he does – for letting his first class jerk agent make him look like one as well.

  392. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 3:11 pm

    we dont need lowell as a first baseman… He will not hit in NY…

    If any newspaper is taking a story from this blog they better not use my star wars theory without referencing me…

  393. TurnTwo November 14th, 2007 at 3:12 pm

    I dont know if i love or hate Lowell at 1B. I know he can play the position, and getting a more prominent RH bat at the position to balance out the lineup makes sense.

  394. raymagnetic November 14th, 2007 at 3:13 pm

    Peter Gammons will probably come out with an article now about how Wedge won the manager of the year but how Francona was smarter and a better manager because the Red Sox won the WS.

  395. mel November 14th, 2007 at 3:13 pm

    Poll Question:

    Miller’s 11/12 post was:

    A) True
    B) False, but used as a lead for a story
    C) Planted by the A-team

  396. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 3:14 pm

    Sos,

    Yes, even with the new contract because 10 and 5 means, 10 years in the majors, and 5 with one team. Both Posada and Rivera qualify under the rules.

    If they went to another team, the 10 and 5 rule would no longer apply.

    As long as they stay with the Yankees, their 10 and 5 rights remain.

  397. ~Adam. November 14th, 2007 at 3:15 pm

    Hey guys- I was on record back in the A ROD ARBITRATION stories that if A Rod wanted to come back and take less money to be a Yankee, I’d welcome him with open arms. In fact I’d amire him for that.

    If this is true… and I highly doubt it is … I would welcome A Rod back.

  398. Laura November 14th, 2007 at 3:16 pm

    I don’t want Lowell at 1B or 3B. His numbers are due to Fenway. He will suck at the stadium.

  399. SHARP SHOOTER November 14th, 2007 at 3:16 pm

    Mel,

    D) wishful thinking!

  400. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 3:16 pm

    “Does he owe me an apology? Yes, he does – for letting his first class jerk agent make him look like one as well.”

    this doesn’t even make sense.

    why does he owe you an apology? for exercising a provision that was written into his contract?

    for upsetting you?

    i don’t see how Alex Rodriguez has personally wronged you.

  401. mel November 14th, 2007 at 3:16 pm

    raymagnetic,

    Just like how he wrote a blog entry about how CC got the Cy Young, but Beckett got the ring? Althought it’s true that CC would rather have the ring, but still…

  402. Motown Yankees Fan November 14th, 2007 at 3:16 pm

    Lowell at first and A-Rod at third. That would be great. And then I woke up, I guess.

  403. Martini6196 November 14th, 2007 at 3:18 pm

    Gotham, where did you get that infor from?

  404. YankeeFan4eva November 14th, 2007 at 3:18 pm

    I will be happy if the Yankees do take him back, but i think he should def. sell hot dogs between innings to make up for that 30 million loss.

  405. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 3:19 pm

    There is no way Mike Lowell is moving to first base.

    Where do some of these writers come up with this stuff.

    The guy is one of the 3 best third baseman in baseball right now. He’s the WS MVP and he’s moving positions?

    Not happening.

  406. kd November 14th, 2007 at 3:19 pm

    This is getting out of control, I go to a meeting for two hours and some of you are saying ARod signed a deal with the Yankees.

    I had to take a deep breath. Peter Greenberg is not Arods’ agent, and he probably cannot talk about another agent’s player. That being said, I would welcome him back if he states in public that he made a mistake

  407. Yankees22 November 14th, 2007 at 3:20 pm

    YankeeFan4eva –

    Not a bad idea…. He is the best player in the game…. What Yankee fan wouldn’t want him in pinstripes?

  408. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 3:20 pm

    Got it thanks Pat.

  409. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 3:20 pm

    now the only bad thing about miller being right, is that we are going to start getting a ton of scoopies mcscoopersons wanna be’s in this blog now, i can see it now: My cousin cleans jeter’s shoes and he told him that girardi hates posada….

  410. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 3:21 pm

    Here’s the fly in the ointment. Its against the rules of the Collective Bargaining Agreement to exclude the designated agent from negotiations.

    So, Arod either has to handle the negotiations himself or hire a new representative. Either way, he has to fire the agent of record…..Boras, before he can take control of the negotiations.

    This stuff has Players Association Grievance written all over it.

  411. pat November 14th, 2007 at 3:22 pm

    I love the updates on WFAN

    They just said Yankees have said they don’t want Boras in the room during negotiations with A-Rod. The Yankees have said nothing. Unnamed sources have said alot but Yankees and A-Rod have said nothing.

  412. YankeeFan4eva November 14th, 2007 at 3:23 pm

    I can’t see Lowell playing 1st base for the Yankees. He is a pull hitter, would never have the numbers he is having for Boston. The Green monster is the best thing that has ever happened to Lowell.

  413. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 3:23 pm

    “Here’s the fly in the ointment. Its against the rules of the Collective Bargaining Agreement to exclude the designated agent from negotiations.

    So, Arod either has to handle the negotiations himself or hire a new representative. Either way, he has to fire the agent of record…..Boras, before he can take control of the negotiations.

    This stuff has Players Association Grievance written all over it.”

    ooppps, someone forgot to research this. that takes care of that

  414. Fat Man in Tiny Coat November 14th, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    SJ44, I’m not saying it’s remotely true…but consider that A-Rod, the best player in baseball, moved to 3rd from Short upon joining the Yankees.

    Lowell to First is infinitely more believable.

  415. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    “I don’t want Lowell at 1B or 3B. His numbers are due to Fenway. He will suck at the stadium.”

    another myth.

    i don’t want Lowell either. but that’s because of his age.

    this “can’t hit away from Fenway” argument is just not true yet it keeps getting repeated by writers and fans who are too lazy to just go onto BB-Ref.com and look it up themselves.

    in 2007 Lowell had drastic home/road splits.
    in 2006 it was the complete opposite.

    he hit like an all-star 3Bman away from Fenway in 2006. how is that if he can only hit at Fenway?

    in his career, he has a line of .280/.356/.484 in almost 2000 PA’s in Pro Player Stadium, which is a huge pitcher’s park.

    that doesn’t sound like someone who can “only hit in Fenway”, does it??

    but people love to pick up soundbites and run with them without checking out the facts.

    i would not be crazy about signing Lowell, but there are plenty of arguments against signing Lowell without misusing statistics to make a false argument.

  416. Miller November 14th, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    Regarding the people who think I planted that post to get the A-Rod cycle going…

    Im too big of a fan to do that to any Yankee fan. I asked the concensus of the forum if they wanted to hear the info I had obtained, the concensus said yes so I said it.

  417. YankeeFan4eva November 14th, 2007 at 3:26 pm

    Miller,

    GOOD JOB!!!!

  418. Fat Man in Tiny Coat November 14th, 2007 at 3:26 pm

    And I don’t think the Players Association would care. All they care about is every baseball players potential worth increasing. If A-Rod signs for 27.5 mil a year, everyone elses worth goes up even more.

    I don’t think it’s farcical to consider A-Rod and Yankees discussing a plan, then Boras being invited to make it legal by the books.

    Boras isn’t gonna pass up his percentage of 272 million to blow the whistle on what happened behind closed doors.

  419. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 3:27 pm

    Lowell is too expensive to have at first(if ARICH signs). Why not pull the trigger on a Igawa for Kouzmanoff and move him to first. Or another cheap option is Loretta at first.

  420. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 3:28 pm

    Why couldn’t A-Rod handle the negotiations himself, then bring in Boras to do the final deal? That isn’t a fly in the ointment. It just sets up final work to be done after the deal is in place with A-Rod, if this is what actually is happening.

  421. pat November 14th, 2007 at 3:29 pm

    SJ44
    If A-Rod agrees to meet without his agent, he isn’t being excluded by the Yanks. Boras is going to have to be part of the process at some point. He doesn’t need to be there for the meeting with Hank and Hal. Coming to year and $$ terms could be handled without Boras but he could join the process to make sure A-Rods best interests are indeed covered and the i’s are dotted.

  422. CaptainsCorner November 14th, 2007 at 3:29 pm

    The weird thing is if this isnt true then when the Daily News asked Hank why wouldnt he just say no? His answer was I couldnt say either way. That would of been an easy way to get rid of all of this mess. I really dont believe it until I see the contract signed, but Cash or Hank can very easily just come out and say its not true and they havent yet..

  423. mel November 14th, 2007 at 3:31 pm

    I think IF this is true, the Yankees want to meet Alex without Boras to feel him out and see what he really wants. If he’s not sincere, then why go through all the motions? Once there’s a gentleman’s agreement, then you bring in the uberagent to draw up the contract.

  424. Scooter November 14th, 2007 at 3:31 pm

    Miller
    Let me pat you on the back as well – that was pretty solid information you gave us. This is a scenario that’s stranger than any fiction I could have come up with

    I’d love to know who provided the info to Bill Madden – especially the part where he said that Boras ‘brainwashed’ Alex.

  425. CaptainsCorner November 14th, 2007 at 3:31 pm

    Also Heyman is Bor-ASS’s bf and he doesnt have any of this on his website. You would think he would of had the story right away with his big breaking notes on his website. None of that, also espn knows nothing about it. Madden has been wrong before..

  426. mel November 14th, 2007 at 3:32 pm

    Scooter,

    What do you think Alex did in Malibu for 3 days? He wasn’t surfing. That water is filthy.

  427. Scooter November 14th, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    hmmm

    There’s two aspects to the Lowell angle that are genius…

    First – if we sign Lowell AND ARod, we’ve taken away the two best 3rd basemen off the market by far, AND we’ve weakened our #1 adversary in a big way

    It probably leads to the Sox trading prospects for Miguel Cabrera (to play 3rd, or to play 1st, with Youkilis playing 3rd)

    And that could make it more difficult for the Sox to trade for Santana

    At the very least, it would force the Sox to go to a 4th year for Lowell, and to bump up the $$$.

    Brilliant move by Cashman, if the Rosenthal story is true

  428. B November 14th, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    “Why not pull the trigger on a Igawa for Kouzmanoff and move him to first. Or another cheap option is Loretta at first.”

    There is no way Igawa brings back Kouzmanoff and equally no way that Loretta adequately fills our need at 1B.

  429. Miller November 14th, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    Peter picked a bad day to opt out!

  430. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 3:34 pm

    Lowell has bad numbers at the stadium…

  431. SHARP SHOOTER November 14th, 2007 at 3:35 pm

    Sure Miller,Do you have some swamp land in florida for sale too?

  432. mel November 14th, 2007 at 3:35 pm

    Scooter,

    Aren’t Lowell and Alex good friends? And where does that leave Minky? ;)

  433. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 3:36 pm

    The Players Associations cares so much their General Council (Michael Weiner) has come out to clarify the rule a little while ago.

    Their job is to protect the player/representative relationships and to make sure teams don’t take advantage of situations.

    They care. A LOT.

    Only way to avoid a grievance on this is for either Arod to fire Boras or for Boras to sign off on it. Meaning, while he isn’t in the room, he is still the agent of record and is ok with how it plays out.

    Big money and big egos. Its still one big game of chicken to see who is going to blink first.

  434. lofram November 14th, 2007 at 3:37 pm

    Minky is a free agent. He’s not coming back to the Yankees.

  435. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 3:37 pm

    Scooter – i like the Machiavellian approach… If we did that Epstein would have a coronary…

  436. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    Lowell and Arod aren’t good friends. For a time, their wasn’t much of a relationship at all, despite being from the same area and working out at the same place.

    They are cordial but, that’s about it.

    Pat,

    The question is, do the Yankees want Boras involved at all? That’s the issue.

    Yes, he doesn’t have to be in the room but, now that this is public, you know the Players Association is going to monitor this in a big way.

  437. B November 14th, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    If this 10 years/$275 million deal is true, I’ll be so happy. I have a feeling though that I’m getting my hopes up for nothing.

  438. lofram November 14th, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    Jason Giambi will be the first basman until his body breaks down, then we’ll need someone else. Cashman already said that Giambi will see lots of playing time at first base. He said someone with his type of bat is definitely not a bench player.

  439. Frank marco November 14th, 2007 at 3:41 pm

    Sorry Pete, I think you are downplaying this situation. I think he’s coming back…..

  440. mel November 14th, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    lofram,

    Just meant that as a man-buddy joke.

    “I love this place,” Mientkiewicz said on Oct. 10. “The energy you feel when you walk through those doors, you can’t put it into words. … I really want to come back, and I want a second chance at a world championship here.”

    Minky also joked that he probably wouldn’t be back with Alex gone.

  441. Motown Yankees Fan November 14th, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    lofram – Cashman also said that Bubba Crosby was the starting center fielder a few years back.

  442. The Fallen Phoenix November 14th, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    Horne certainly has better stuff (and therefore upside) than Kennedy, but that doesn’t automatically make him a better bet to make the majors and, ergo, a better prospect.

    For example, Chamberlain had better stuff than Hughes last year, but Hughes was the higher prospect, in part, because he was closer to the majors, more polished, and–despite slightly inferior “pure” stuff, e.g., FB velocity–was close enough in ceiling that the stuff differential could not overcome.

    Actually, the Hughes/Bailey debate last year was probably the perfect one for showing the divide in opinion regarding pure stuff, secondary offerings, polish, and the like.

  443. Vinny November 14th, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    I seriously doubt that (Tejada fan) proposes a straight up Tejada for Farnsworth deal.
    Brian Cashman may have already discussed Tejada with his agent (Fern Cuza, same as Mariano’s) to see how he feels about moving to 3rd base and what his state of mind is. If Cashman got a positive feeling from it, the deal would be expanded to include one of DeSalvo, Karstens, or Clippard plus Brett Gardner. To a good degree it would take care of the righthanded power gap left with A-Rod gone and would allow the money to pursue Johan Santana.
    Just one of the options available which also includes Scott Rolen, Freddy Sanchez, or Lowell.
    Miguel Cabrera requires too many prime prospects.

  444. Dee November 14th, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    When Miller first came in with his post, he got pounded by many including by Pete even though Miller gave us very responsible RUMOR warnings. I took it with a grain a salt as Miller asked (and still do until we hear confirmed report) but I thought the mean posts were uncalled for.

    Miller whoever you are, you could be Boras or Feisand, in any case good job!

  445. lofram November 14th, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    hehe gotcha…sorry I totally missed that

  446. randyhater November 14th, 2007 at 3:44 pm

    “if he does come back then by your defiinition he was genuine about wanting to be a Yankee.”

    No, if he was genuine about wanting to be a Yankee he would still be a Yankee. Or at least he would have listened to what they had to say before tearing his contract up.

    If he were genuinely interested in coming back now it would only be because the snake who pulls his strings misread the market and has come to realize his best offer is in NY, discount or not.

    He’s using the Yanks to get a bigger deal somewhere else and when he gets it, he’ll take it. Then if he decides he doesn’t like the new team, he’ll weasel his way out by undermining his manager and annoying his teammates, same as he did in Texas.

    Take the candle out of the window and find a new hero.

  447. lofram November 14th, 2007 at 3:44 pm

    Bubba crosby wasn’t making 20+ million dollars a year

  448. mel November 14th, 2007 at 3:45 pm

    At some point, you just have to cut bait…

  449. Drive 4-5 November 14th, 2007 at 3:46 pm

    I just got home from work and I’m catching up here. By the sound of it, Mark Feinsand’s article and Miller’s prediction are for real???

    It’s easy to understand how ARod could be upset about becoming a national goat. I still have a hard time believing ARod is going to dump Boras.

    But I will say this, even the Red Sox fans that I work with are hoping this goes down because Boras is even more despised than ARod! ARod could look like a hero instead of a chump for a change.Let’s hope he’s smart enough and has the guts to pull it off.

  450. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 3:46 pm

    Here’s the thing. All sources are citing Bill Madden and the Daily News. So if Madden is wrong, they’re all wrong.

    But, I find it interesting that Miller had the same figures (about 275 mil) a couple of days ago, so there just might be juice to this.

  451. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    It’s TRUE! A-Rod made a public statement!

  452. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 3:48 pm

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET IT DONE!!!!!

  453. ~Adam. November 14th, 2007 at 3:48 pm

    IT’S TRUE
    Statement from A Rod, confirms everything.

  454. pat November 14th, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    A-Rod confirms meeting with Yankees. Converswation will continue

  455. Drive 4-5 November 14th, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    The fact that Bill Madden has his name on this definitely gives the story legitimatcy.

  456. Nud November 14th, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    Welcome back AROD!!!!!!!!!!!!

  457. ~Adam. November 14th, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    just reported on mike & mad dog, A ROD booted Boras.

  458. mel November 14th, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    Ducky,

    What are you talking about? Alex has been handcuffed to the radiator in the basement with duct tape over his mouth for the last month.

  459. mike f November 14th, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    news flash: from mike and dog….a-rod made statement …wants to stay with yanks. have talked with baby steins!!!!!

  460. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    Here it is folks!

    http://arod.mlb.com/players/ro.....ory=111407

  461. clifton park ny jeff November 14th, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    adam,

    where did you see a-rod’s statement?

  462. ~Adam. November 14th, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    its on his website AROD.com

  463. ItalianGreco November 14th, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    wow, this is getting crazy……

  464. Dee November 14th, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    Holy $HIT!!!!!!! Just heard the statement from Arod. Rumor is true!

    Kudos to Miller and Feisand!!

  465. Sara November 14th, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    A-ROD SPEAKS!!!! HE FINALLY ISSUED A STATEMENT

  466. Jeff in MA November 14th, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    Ducky – the New York Times isn’t citing the News. Kepner quotes sources that are presumably his own.

  467. wood is good November 14th, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    Hey Adam–Alex has NOT “booted” Boras.

  468. ~Adam. November 14th, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    Well me and Pete are eating CROW CROW CROW CROW.

  469. Laura November 14th, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    Wait, where are you guys seeing that A-BrokenCellPhone made a statement?

  470. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    Whoa Arod just released a statement. It is true.

  471. Dee November 14th, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    Official statement from Alex Rodriguez

    11/14/2007 3:27 PM ET

    After spending time with Cynthia and my family over these last few weeks, it became clear to me that I needed to make an attempt to engage the Yankees regarding my future with the organization.

    Prior to entering into serious negotiations with other clubs, I wanted the opportunity to share my thoughts directly with Yankees’ ownership. We know there are other opportunities for us, but Cynthia and I have a foundation with the club that has brought us comfort, stability and happiness.

    As a result, I reached out to the Yankees through mutual friends and conveyed that message. I also understand that I had to respond to certain Yankees concerns, and I was receptive and understanding of that situation.

    Cynthia and I have since spoken directly with the Steinbrenner family. During these healthy discussions, both sides were able to share honest feelings and hopes with one another, and we expect to continue this dialogue with the Yankees over the next few days.

  472. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    stats:
    lowell has a career .786 OPS in 97 plate appearances at Yankee Stadium. That is about what andy Phillips gives you…

    Plus check out his spray chart at home… All his xtra base hits where off the monster…

    i am not saying he cant hit, but he is going to want 4 years – i dont think he is that much of an upgrade over phillips

  473. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 3:52 pm

    Miller for President!

  474. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 3:52 pm

    Official statement from Alex Rodriguez

    11/14/2007 3:27 PM ET
    After spending time with Cynthia and my family over these last few weeks, it became clear to me that I needed to make an attempt to engage the Yankees regarding my future with the organization.

    Prior to entering into serious negotiations with other clubs, I wanted the opportunity to share my thoughts directly with Yankees’ ownership. We know there are other opportunities for us, but Cynthia and I have a foundation with the club that has brought us comfort, stability and happiness.

    As a result, I reached out to the Yankees through mutual friends and conveyed that message. I also understand that I had to respond to certain Yankees concerns, and I was receptive and understanding of that situation.

    Cynthia and I have since spoken directly with the Steinbrenner family. During these healthy discussions, both sides were able to share honest feelings and hopes with one another, and we expect to continue this dialogue with the Yankees over the next few days.

  475. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 3:53 pm

    Ducky – the New York Times isn’t citing the News. Kepner quotes sources that are presumably his own.

    Thanks, Jeff. My bad. It’s moot now, because it is in fact true!

  476. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 3:53 pm

    Miller. Start a bog. Pronto!!

  477. Joe from Long Island November 14th, 2007 at 3:53 pm

    It looks like Alex is starting to think on his own.

    What’s the name of that therapist he uses?

  478. mel November 14th, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    Official statement from Alex Rodriguez

    11/14/2007 3:27 PM ET
    After spending time with Cynthia and my family over these last few weeks, it became clear to me that I needed to make an attempt to engage the Yankees regarding my future with the organization.

    Prior to entering into serious negotiations with other clubs, I wanted the opportunity to share my thoughts directly with Yankees’ ownership. We know there are other opportunities for us, but Cynthia and I have a foundation with the club that has brought us comfort, stability and happiness.

    As a result, I reached out to the Yankees through mutual friends and conveyed that message. I also understand that I had to respond to certain Yankees concerns, and I was receptive and understanding of that situation.

    Cynthia and I have since spoken directly with the Steinbrenner family. During these healthy discussions, both sides were able to share honest feelings and hopes with one another, and we expect to continue this dialogue with the Yankees over the next few days.

  479. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    Make “bog” “blog”. I’m too excited

  480. Laura November 14th, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    Oh, now I get it. If you read the statement carefully, I see exactly what he’s doing. A-Liar wants it to be said that he at least talked to the Yankees before signing elsewhere. He doesn’t say that we are talking about going back to the Yankees. He says that he wants them to know how he feels about things. Yeah, right.

    I won’t believe he’s a Yankee again until the press conference saying so. My gut tells me that this is a PR stunt.

  481. SHARP SHOOTER November 14th, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    Vinny,

    Rolen has a surgically repaired shoulder and back problems,he a 12mil yr salary dump for the Carsds.He is like Giambi out a lot

  482. mel November 14th, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    Laura,

    You may be right. But it’s pretty dramatic. Now where did you guys hear audio of Alex?

  483. gayle November 14th, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    Poor Pete guess he picked the wrong day to go on vacation lol

  484. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    Ducky,

    What are you talking about? Alex has been handcuffed to the radiator in the basement with duct tape over his mouth for the last month..

    LOL too funny, mel!

  485. gayle November 14th, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    I also find it very interesting that he choise to put/release that statement via his website which has not been updated in a good long time.

  486. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    Laura that is very cynical of you. But as you said I’ll believe it when I see it. He would be very well served if he even read this in front of a camera and released the video.

  487. * * THEE BOSTON BUGLE * * November 14th, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    It goes to show how much the Boston hoot (Gammons) knows about the A-Rod happenings. He’s had little more than a peep to say but then again he’s probably still got a hangover from (his) Socks getting their 2nd championship since 1918.

  488. SHARP SHOOTER November 14th, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    Vinny Cardinals!

  489. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    PR stunt….Honestly, after the hole he dug himself into, and now trying to climb out of it, this does not make any sense if he doesnt want to sign with them. This would be the BIGGEST WHOLE ON EARTH, if this become a pure PR stunt

  490. Brandon (I want Arod but fire Boras first, please land me a Kazmir) November 14th, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    NOW FIRE THE RAT !!! :D

  491. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    BIGGEST HOLE ON EARTH

    that is!

  492. Dee November 14th, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    Miller, now fess up. Who are you??

  493. Jeff in MA November 14th, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    Yeah Ducky, about sixteen posts shot out while I was typing that.. too slow!

    “arod.mlb.com” LOL

  494. new-ish girl November 14th, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    I agree with Laura, but I almost hate to admit that this makes me somewhat hopeful. Most of me just wants him to GO AWAY ALREADY, but the remaining part of me still really wants to believe they can work it out.

  495. ~Adam. November 14th, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    Mike & Mad dogg are saying Boras is gone.

  496. mel November 14th, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    Ducky,

    I guess Scott didn’t know that Alex used to sneak into the basement for some private time and that he hid his laptop down there. It’s a cry for help! Alex needs to be rescued!

  497. Rebecca--Optimist Prime November 14th, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    Okay, am I the only one who right now thinks this is making the Yankees look really bad? I don’t mind it if I’m in the minority.

  498. The Fallen Phoenix November 14th, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    It is too early to say definitively that this is evidence that Rodriguez will be back in pinstripes, or that this is just a PR stunt. I, personally, am making absolutely no judgment on this situation until it develops, because I think it is far too early to call.

    I’ll be cautiously optimistic, but I wouldn’t be surprised either way.

  499. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    honestly, this cant be a PR stunt. He has learned his lesson. You dont do this twice

  500. Dee November 14th, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    I hope Arod is not stupid enough to use this as spin to get other clubs up their bids. The PR backlash would make the WS opt out look like mickey mouse!

  501. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    I highly doubt he is using the Yankees at this point.

    Think about it for a minute. If he is trying to do that, why would he issue a statement now??

    All that does is make him look WORSE if he is using the Yankees.

    Looks to me that he is coming back to the Yankees, with hat in hand.

  502. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    Here is why it’s getting done. That statement was step 1. There is no doubt that the Yanks “recommended” that he make a public statement expressing his love for the pinstripes and in essence an apology for the way he (A-Rod) handled things.

  503. J-Dawg November 14th, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    I just wonder how long that it will take ESPN to get the news on this story.

  504. Miller November 14th, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    Im just a simple Yankee fan. But again as I have stated in my other 6 posts today, dont believe ANYTHING until the ink has dried.

  505. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 4:02 pm

    “Itr’s pretty clear to all of use he definitely wants to stay a Yankee,” Hank Steinbrenner, team executive and son of owner George Steinbrenner, said today. “And that’s all he’s had to prove to me.”

  506. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:03 pm

    Okay, am I the only one who right now thinks this is making the Yankees look really bad? I don’t mind it if I’m in the minority.

    Not at all, Rebecca. It’s basically A-Rod admitting that HE came crawling to the Yanks for his love of pinstripes.

    Everyone saves face now and comes out smelling like roses.

  507. The Fallen Phoenix November 14th, 2007 at 4:03 pm

    And no, it doesn’t make the Yankees look bad depending on the specific circumstances surrounding the talks.

    It *could* make the Yankees look bad, but it doesn’t necessarily have to. For example, if Rodriguez accepts a pay-cut that would make up for the loss of Texas subsidy, then the Yankees save face, because that was the public reason for refusing to negotiate with Rodriguez if he opted out.

    Everything is extremely conditional; I refuse to weigh judgment one way or the other.

    I will say, though, that the rumor that the Angels and Dodgers–two of the more likely suitors for A-Rod’s services–are deep in talks with the Marlins for Cabrera is certainly somewhat favorable towards a Rodriguez-Yankees reunion. But again, it’s just…too early to call. Anything.

  508. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 4:03 pm

    finally hank has something nice to say!

  509. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 4:03 pm

    Looks like Pete picked the wrong day to start his vacation! lol

    No such thing as “off-season” with the Yankees.

  510. B November 14th, 2007 at 4:03 pm

    Please let this be real.

  511. Brandon (I TOLD YOU ALEX WOULD BE BACK WOOOOHOOO !!!) November 14th, 2007 at 4:03 pm

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  512. Drive 4-5 November 14th, 2007 at 4:04 pm

    Here’s a question:

    If ARod does return,do you then think about trading Robby & Melky for Santana?

  513. mel November 14th, 2007 at 4:04 pm

    Rebecca,

    It absolutely does not make the team look bad. It makes them look like a team, not a bottomless money pit. You want to be a Yankee for life, we’ll take care of you. Just ask Jeter, Jorge, and Mariano (and PLEASE! don’t bring up Bernie, he made lots of dough in his day). The patients can’t be allowed to run the asylum.

  514. Laura November 14th, 2007 at 4:04 pm

    “This would be the BIGGEST WHOLE ON EARTH, if this become a pure PR stunt”

    Not if he comes out and says “We gave the Yankees a chance, but we just couldn’t get it done”. Makes it look like he tried whereas before, he looked like he was treating the Yankees and his former teammates like crap.

    Speaking of which, did we ever find out who his cell carrier is? I wouldn’t want them handling my cell service. I mean, if poor A-Phoney can’t receive calls or retrieve voicemails, what does that mean for the rest of us?

  515. jonnycat November 14th, 2007 at 4:05 pm

    miller is showing some skepticism now… uh-oh.

    ” ….dont believe ANYTHING until the ink has dried.”

  516. PittsburghYankeeFan November 14th, 2007 at 4:05 pm

    Note the “prior to entering into serious negotiations with other clubs…”

    What the heck does that mean?

  517. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:05 pm

    Yeah Ducky, about sixteen posts shot out while I was typing that.. too slow!
    “arod.mlb.com” LOL

    Tell me about it Jeff! I’ve never seen this blog so wild with action. LOL

  518. pat November 14th, 2007 at 4:05 pm

    All that statement said is he knows he was wrong to not speak to the Yankees before opting out. He didn’t make any promises but at least the parties are talking. Whether he remains a Yankee or signs somewhere else is will now come down to the contract.

  519. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 4:06 pm

    John Sterling on FAN confirming Miller’s scoop.

  520. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:06 pm

    John Sterling is claiming that a source told him that “it is done”

  521. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 4:07 pm

    If he comes back to the yanks it will be in a way that everyone but boras looks good… YANKEES BEAT DOWN BORAS. Arod comes back because he loves new york. Boras is evil and stupid…

    THIS IS ALL tongue in cheek…

    John sterling just said done deal! Arod is back

  522. Rebecca--Optimist Prime November 14th, 2007 at 4:07 pm

    Eh. Yeah, him admitting he was in the wrong makes me really happy, but on the whole, I’m just not all that enthused.

    Hopefully I’m wrong and this is a turning point in A-Rod’s career–a big turning point.

  523. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 4:07 pm

    “We gave the Yankees a chance, but we just couldn’t get it done”.

    He still comes out as a dork because of the money the yanks offered him will be the biggest contract. All the yankees have to do is leak to the press a number and arod will be a villan again. Arod CAME BACK to the yankees, not the yankees came back to arod.

    If this is a PR stunt. Arod is as dumb as people claimed

  524. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:08 pm

    Per Sterling on it being a done deal (based on his source): “On a scale of 1-100 it’s a 101″

  525. Dee November 14th, 2007 at 4:08 pm

    John Sterling is on the FAN now saying he heard the deal is already done.

    Mark Feisand is coming back on air soon, stay tuned.

  526. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    This. Is. Huge.

    Naysayers beware.

  527. brit November 14th, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    Offical Statement from A-Rod:
    http://arod.mlb.com/players/ro.....ory=111407

    After spending time with Cynthia and my family over these last few weeks, it became clear to me that I needed to make an attempt to engage the Yankees regarding my future with the organization.

    Prior to entering into serious negotiations with other clubs, I wanted the opportunity to share my thoughts directly with Yankees’ ownership. We know there are other opportunities for us, but Cynthia and I have a foundation with the club that has brought us comfort, stability and happiness.

    As a result, I reached out to the Yankees through mutual friends and conveyed that message. I also understand that I had to respond to certain Yankees concerns, and I was receptive and understanding of that situation.

    Cynthia and I have since spoken directly with the Steinbrenner family. During these healthy discussions, both sides were able to share honest feelings and hopes with one another, and we expect to continue this dialogue with the Yankees over the next few days.

  528. raymagnetic November 14th, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    How could it be done, A-Rod still doesn’t know who his closer is or what one of his pitchers is going to do lol.

  529. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    Sterling claimed he heard the rumors 2 days ago also.

    Pete, Pete, Pete! You had this one in your hand!

  530. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 4:10 pm

    Agreed Migames he would look even more like an ass. Now he should publicly say that Borass is no longer his agent. He does need an agent for a contract of his size, but hire one that isn’t out for blood. Than everyone comes out looking good, the Yankees, Alex, etc.

    He should also distance himself for Borass, commend him but than say you didn’t feel he acted in your best interests now .

  531. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 4:10 pm

    Sterling’s source says on a scale of 1 to 100 it’s a 101 that A-Rod is back.

  532. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    It doesn’t make the Yankees look bad at all Rebecca.

    In fact, it makes the Yankees, in particular Hank Steinbrenner, look pretty damn good because they stuck it to Boras and (if the reports are true) still get their man.

    For a new owner to do what NOBODY in the sport has done, which is stick it to Boras, that’s pretty impressive.

  533. Brandon (I TOLD YOU ALEX WOULD BE BACK WOOOOHOOO !!!) November 14th, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    leaving $ 60 million on the table

  534. Sara November 14th, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    john stering was just on the fan…he said A-Rod is coming back. on a scale of 1-100 it is a 101.

  535. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    “Lowell has bad numbers at the stadium…”

    do i really need to explain that those numbers came against the yankee pitching staff and are therefore biased?

    if he came to the yankees, he wouldn’t be facing those guys, would he?

  536. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    Regarding Lowell’ splits: (from BronxBanter)

    Much has been made of Lowell’s troubling home/road split in 2007, but few have bothered to note that he was much better on the road in 2006 (.310/.352/.514 against a mere .260/.327/.436 at Fenway), or that he had several strong seasons while playing half his games in the Marlins’ pitching-friendly home park.

  537. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    “For a new owner to do what NOBODY in the sport has done, which is stick it to Boras, that’s pretty impressive.”

    indeed. Touche Hank!

  538. PittsburghYankeeFan November 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    Made for each other. Dysfunctional as can be, but made for each other nonetheless.

    I suspect that it was Reggie that orchestrated this, once the market for ARod became clear, and has accelerated once the Yankees began serious negotiations with Lowell yesterday.

    OK, ARod, Underdog, whatever your name is…you screwed with everyone your whole career. Time to man up, sign for a bit less than you think you’re worth, and print a big apology in the NY Times, or Newsday, or wherever. You have two weeks to turn public perception of you around.

    Give the stripper Pete’s number–then maybe he’ll give you a break. Cynthia certainly will be happy.

    Miller–who are you???

  539. Drive 4-5 November 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    The very fact that he’s already talked to the yankees without Boras is mindboggling. Is this a Boras ploy? If not, he has just been slapped by ARod and has to be extremely embarrassed.

    Then again, the fact that Boras would seemed weakened and embarrassed by today’s events makes it all the harder to believe that it’s NOT a ploy.

  540. Miller November 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    “Sterling claimed he heard the rumors 2 days ago also.

    Pete, Pete, Pete! You had this one in your hand!”

    Very true. Nothing wouldve made me happier to have Pete break this story. However I understand he couldn’t ethically report on something solely based on something a fan had written on his blog.

  541. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    Somewhere in the Caribbean, Jeter just rolled off a supermodel, picked up his ringing cellphone and screamed “Noooooooooooooo” into his cellphone.

  542. Dee November 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    Jennifer, agree, he definitely needs to talk about Boras’s status, and also explains what’s been on his mind since the last game of the season. He’ll hav to throw Boras under the bus hard.

  543. ~Adam. November 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    John Sterling on M&MD just said its 101% a done deal, A Rod left $60 million on the table. No Boras.

  544. a-rod fan November 14th, 2007 at 4:13 pm

    “This is all a stunt to leverage more money out of the Angels, Giants, or Dodgers. Nothing more, nothing less. That pathetic choke-artist will never wear Pinstripes again, thank God. ”

    WE WOULD HAVE WON 75 GAMES WITHOUT A-ROD THIS YEAR! 75 GAMES! I KNOW THE PYTHAGOREAN BREAKDOWN WON’T AGREE, BUT IF ALEX HADN’T CARRIED THIS TEAM EARLY THEY MAY HAVE COLLAPSED BEFORE JULY. WE ALSO DON’T MAKE IT NEAR THE POST-SEASON IN ’05 WITHOUT A-ROD! WE HAD AN OPENING DAY FREAKING ROTATION INCLUDING PAVANO, WRIGHT, AND BROWN!!! THAT’S TWO YEARS WHERE NUMBER 13 CARRIED US TO OCTOBER! TO QUOTE HEAT: “THE BANK IS WORTH THE RISK.” AND THE BEST PART… NONE OF THE YOUNG PITCHERS GET TRADED!

    GOOD DAY.

  545. J-Dawg November 14th, 2007 at 4:13 pm

    John Sterling is hoping that it comes true just so he will have many more opportunities to yell “an A-BOMB from A-ROD!” Now that’s A-Rodian!!

  546. mel November 14th, 2007 at 4:13 pm

    lol, murphydog, lol.

  547. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 4:15 pm

    mel:

    But you have to admit, even when it’s a bad day being Jeter, it’s still a day being Jeter.

  548. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 4:15 pm

    murphydog, I doubt that, even though the image is funny.

    Jeter was digging A-Rod’s at bats like everyone else.

  549. Joe from Long Island November 14th, 2007 at 4:15 pm

    For all the bad publicity that Hank, Cash and the Yankees have gotten over the past couple of weeks – Posada is back, Mo soon (hopefully), the highest-reputed young manager in the game, and now staring down Scott Boras – Hank and Cash are looking pretty good. And if they steal Lowell from Boston, even better.

  550. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 4:15 pm

    A-Point:

    Agreed. Just couldn’t resist the image.

  551. The Fallen Phoenix November 14th, 2007 at 4:15 pm

    Not that Yankee pitching has been absolutely superb the last couple of years, in particular, when Lowell returned to the AL, as opposed to being on the Marlins in the NL.

    …I think that if you want to project Lowell’s offense in Yankee Stadium moving forward, it’s best to look at his home/away splits with the Red Sox, which shows Lowell has been a significantly better hitter in Fenway than everywhere else.

    *Shrugs shoulders* Personally, *I* wouldn’t want to give Lowell anything more than a two-year deal to be a Yankee, and even that’s pushing it.

  552. mel November 14th, 2007 at 4:15 pm

    Madden talking on Kay’s show, talking about how he thinks that Alex wanted to come back all along. Hmmmm.

  553. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 4:16 pm

    I just find it hilarious that I’m sitting at home on strike probably for months (I’m in the Writers Guild) and I’m smiling for ear to ear because Miller scooped this in the only blog I read!

    Miller!

  554. C GAR November 14th, 2007 at 4:16 pm

    those damn “tabloids”… good for nothing

  555. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 4:16 pm

    So, if it’s true, the Yankees will have had the best winter. Unless Boston signs Santana….

  556. A-Point November 14th, 2007 at 4:16 pm

    I think, with A-Rod putting it on his site, that the deal is either done, or nearly done. No need to go through the embaressment of a retraction.

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-Bomb is right. ;)

  557. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    I just pranked Mike and Dogs show… I told them i was john sterling and that the arod deal was done… they bought it hook like and sinker…

  558. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    Rebecca, for approx 27 mil a year we get the best available 3rd baseman out there and one of the game’s premier players.

    The alternative is 15-20 million PLUS players (top prospects) for a lesser 3rd baseman or for Lowell (no thanks).

    These plateys and prospects can now be used to get a dominant pitcher like a Santana and not fill a need when we already had that top player in A-Rod last year.

    I think it’s a no-brainer.

  559. El Comaduce November 14th, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    just kidding

  560. nate c. November 14th, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    murphydog
    November 14th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
    mel:

    But you have to admit, even when it’s a bad day being Jeter, it’s still a day being Jeter.

    hilarious

  561. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 4:18 pm

    Who thinks the AL MVP Press conference is going to be to announce his contract extension?

    Pete should come back from vacation. They will probably roll out the shrimp and Lobster for that conference at the stadium.

    I also expect to see Alex shed some tears and Hank to give him a hug and lift him up in the air for an awkward second.

  562. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 4:18 pm

    ESPN’s story on arod and the Yanks

  563. Doreen November 14th, 2007 at 4:18 pm

    No, Rebecca. The Yankees said they would not go after ARod and they did not. He apparently came to them.

  564. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 4:19 pm

    “Hopefully I’m wrong and this is a turning point in A-Rod’s career–a big turning point.”

    yeah, 2007 wasn’t good enough!!

  565. mel November 14th, 2007 at 4:19 pm

    G. Love,

    I think they’ll give him a cardboard bonus check and Hank will present him with a fine Arabian horse. Either that or winner’s circle wreath.

  566. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:20 pm

    I’m psyched. And I want to take this opportunity to apologize to murphydog. I was being an @ss to him.

  567. B November 14th, 2007 at 4:20 pm

    All he’s said is that he’s discussing his future with the Yankees. That’s not exactly some type of crazy PR stunt, and doesn’t mean a deal is coming.

  568. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 4:20 pm

    There is no such thing as a bad day for Derek Jeter.

    Especially in the off-season.

    FWIW, I just got a call from somebody I trust in baseball matters. He also confirms a deal is in place between Arod and the Yankees.

    He also said Boras is “not fired but, not involved”. Whatever that means.

    Its a person I trust, who has always given me good info in the past.

  569. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 4:21 pm

    “…I think that if you want to project Lowell’s offense in Yankee Stadium moving forward, it’s best to look at his home/away splits with the Red Sox, which shows Lowell has been a significantly better hitter in Fenway than everywhere else.”

    in 2007.

    what about 2006?

  570. yanklifer November 14th, 2007 at 4:21 pm

    Has Hank said anything?

  571. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    Now we have to worry about the legal ramifications IF it comes out that the Yanks indeed demand he exclude Boras, when Boras was under contract to represent him. It might get messy unless Boras says he allowed such a scenerio.

  572. Laura November 14th, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    If he’s back, he’s back. I’m still miffed at recent events and don’t know when I’ll be over it. Sorry. I hold grudges. LOL!!!

  573. Rebecca--Optimist Prime November 14th, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    Doreen–Yeah, I didn’t catch that the first time.

    Hmmm–Get me some big playoff hits, and I’ll be fine.

    I won’t hide that I’m not the hugest A-Rod fan, but I am encouraged by the fact that he seems to have gone behind Scott Boras to do this.

  574. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    If Boston wants Santana, you can bet the Twins will demand Buccholz, Ellsbury or Pedroia and probably another lower level prospect.

    Same with the Yanks – Hughes, Cano, Melky, and lower level prospect.

    That’s a big no.

  575. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 4:22 pm

    G.Love:

    Once I realized I would never be a pro-baseball player (about age 12) I went on to other pursuits. As an adult, however, my next fantasy job was being a writer, screen or otherwise. Good for you. Sorry to hear about the strike, hope it’s over soon.

  576. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    yanklifer,

    Yes. Hank made a statement.

    “You had me at Hello. You had me at hello!”

  577. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    One other thing…..

    Let’s not reduce the blog to pathetic namecalling or ripping Pete.

    There is nothing more boring than reading folks playing the “keeping score” game.

    Look, its a blog, we are all passionate Yankee fans and have opinions.

    Pete has his opinions. He also has put together the best blog for Yankee talk.

    So, let’s not reduce to the usual internet BS with namecalling or scorekeeping.

    Just take it for what it is….entertainment and fun and not act like smart asses.

    It will make the next few days in here a lot more fun.

  578. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    “FWIW, I just got a call from somebody I trust in baseball matters. He also confirms a deal is in place between Arod and the Yankees.

    He also said Boras is “not fired but, not involved”. Whatever that means.

    Its a person I trust, who has always given me good info in the past.”

    Hey SJ, is it Miller?

  579. Ryan November 14th, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    Hank Steinbrenner told Newsday that Alex Rodriguez “wants to be a Yankee.”

  580. gayle November 14th, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    on Michael Kay show he said that he texted Alex and he actually got a response so maybe his cell phone service is now back and he will return all those calls lol

  581. -------- November 14th, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    Goodness, what happened to all the people posting that they hate AROD, that he’s a “cancer” (your word), not worth the percentage of annual team salary, etc. . .

  582. mikethemike November 14th, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    they are saying 275 mill for 10 years on Mike and Maddog – so lets not think he came crawling back, still a big deal for AROD

  583. mel November 14th, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    SJ44,

    It means that Boras gets a nice commission check for drafting a contract that he did not negotiate.

    Boras will not cry too long. It’s all about the money for him. It was a lose-lose for him anyway. He was never going to get the money he wanted out in the open market.

  584. J-Dawg November 14th, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    Name a phrase, and there’s a high possibility that Hank has said it in the past few days. :)

  585. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    If the Yankees are still giving arod the biggest contract in baseball, and boras is still going to receive his commission, I doubt he’ll throw up much of a fuss. It would not do for Boras to alienate (any further) his #1 client. I’m sure he’ll sign off on any deal arod and the yanks agree on.

  586. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    this is what Hank Said:
    “It’s pretty clear to all of us he definitely wants to stay a Yankee,” Hank Steinbrenner, team executive and son of owner George Steinbrenner, said today. “And that’s all he’s had to prove to me.”

  587. Tommy November 14th, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    Kay claimed he sent Arod a text and Arod returned it!
    What a name dropper!

    Rebecca:

    It doesn’t make the YAnks look bad at all.
    It is being spun perfectly by all involved now.

  588. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    wow everything is great we are getting back the messiah… championships will roll…

    the circus will continue for 10 yrs. of hype, hopefully less underachievement, and hopefully less of a circus and more baseball….

    let’s get ready for the parade he is coming back…….whipppty doo………

    he had to put his statement on his website because he could not say it with a straightface in public. Hopefuly he produces and acts like a teammate but I doubt it.. maybe he can call mariano and cano and apologize for his recent misbehavior…

    yea, the yanks are the 2008 champs, why play the games!!!!!!!

  589. ~Adam. November 14th, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    Cashman should get 4 more years too.

  590. whoa November 14th, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    How can anyone think that this is a bad day for Jeter?

    You cannot be serious.

  591. Brandon (I TOLD YOU ALEX WOULD BE BACK WOOOOHOOO !!!) November 14th, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    what is that I see ?

    OH IT’S HANKS & CASH’S FOOT UP BORAS A$$ ;)

  592. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    It would be great if the Yanks sign A-Rod and Lowell splits the Sox for the Yanks (1B) or another team.

    Now the Sox would have to scramble to replace him or somebody else (if Youk goes to 3rd) with prospects. Prospects THEY might have needed to land Santana.

  593. Ryan November 14th, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    Great day for Peter to go on vacation.

  594. pat November 14th, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    Stuart

    We need a better rant than that.

  595. The Fallen Phoenix November 14th, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    hmmm, I was making a blanket statement about what I knew about 2007, I’ll admit I didn’t check 2006, *although* I’m one who is inclined to allow a one-year adjustment period for players (though usually pitchers) moving from the NL to the AL.

    I didn’t check the numbers, I don’t really intend to, I *should* be finishing a short philosophy paper on Book VII of Plato’s Republic for my seminar this evening…

    But rumors like this are hard to get away from.

  596. -------- November 14th, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    Did not think I would say this given the amount he’s run his mouth off, but Hank is looking good.

  597. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    murphydog,

    Thanks for the support. The WGA strike hitting now really hurts since I had about 3 projects ready to pop. Do a google search on the movie Book Of Leo that I wrote.

    There should still be an article from Variety out on the net about me and that sale.

    Stick to it. It took me almost 9 years to get my foot in the door.

  598. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 4:27 pm

    This is GREAT news. Put now we need to get pitching….

  599. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 4:27 pm

    Not Miller but, someone from the same line of work.

    Too much smoke for it not to be true. Looks like a deal is in the final stages.

    Damn G Love, you can’t make this stuff up within a screenplay.

    I concur with Murph. Hang tough, get what you deserve. The DVD Sales alone are making studios tons of money. You guys deserve a piece of that pie.

  600. nate c. November 14th, 2007 at 4:28 pm

    SJ44
    November 14th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
    One other thing…..

    Thank you SJ. I was wondering how everyone let the namecalling poster just say what he wanted. This is a blog, we’re all fans, and it is for fun.

  601. gayle November 14th, 2007 at 4:29 pm

    If Alex does end of coming back just think of all the YES people who will have to go back and re-edit all the editing they recently did to the Yankeeography and Classic games.

    In terms of how I feel about all this. I have always said I didnt want him if he did not want to be a Yankee.I love him as a player but the way the past few weeks has been handled was disgraceful and told me a lot about Alex. But if he is now coming to the Yankees and saying I was the one who made a mistake and I want to be here there are some very telling words in his statement about that and on top of that willing to take below market value tells me something more.

  602. PittsburghYankeeFan November 14th, 2007 at 4:29 pm

    SJ44 and the rest

    Weren’t we all just saying there was no way in hell that ARod was coming back to the Yankees?

    What happened?

    This is what happened. The guy buys a jet with “13″ on it, shops for a $40 million townhouse on the Upper East Side as well as a Westchester estate, realizes that the Mets are not going to throw David Wright under the bus, and that the Angels were all talk. He’s in the center of the baseball universe, and being paid well for it.

    Now just produce in the post-season. Girardi will hopefully manage the pitching so your late inning HRs actually mean something.

  603. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 4:30 pm

    that is the best I can rant.. I am a Yankee fan

  604. mel November 14th, 2007 at 4:30 pm

    I’m simply giddy at the thought of 50/150!

  605. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 4:30 pm

    SJ44- I don’t understand how they can exclude him without him being fired. There will be legal ramifications to worry about.

  606. a-rod fan November 14th, 2007 at 4:30 pm

    Seriously, this is awesome. I’m thinking of a game next season where Joba strikes out ten, Alex hits two bombs, and Mariano shuts the door in the ninth. Good times!

  607. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 4:32 pm

    do not trade any young studs; no trading of the big 3, and tabata, jackson, montero, and other high cieling prospects.

    try to get rid of farnsworth, I pass on Vizciano(waste) and next year we get rid of giambi, moose, abreu, and other bloated overpriced junk…..

  608. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 4:32 pm

    G. Love:

    It’ll break soon. There are only so many reality shows people will watch. And when it breaks, you won’t be able to breathe, everybody will be rushing so many projects forward.

    BTW, Rotten Tomatoes came up first. Nice story.

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/1645582/

  609. Dee November 14th, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    Miller November 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pm
    ““Sterling claimed he heard the rumors 2 days ago also.

    Pete, Pete, Pete! You had this one in your hand!”

    Very true. Nothing wouldve made me happier to have Pete break this story. However I understand he couldn’t ethically report on something solely based on something a fan had written on his blog.”

    Miller – you sound like a nice guy.

    So Michael Kay is saying Alex texted him back but didn’t say what he texted? What’s the story here except to name drop??

  610. gayle November 14th, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    Dee Kay texted him asking if the stories were true and Alex responded with a one word answer YES

  611. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    I have clients both inside and outside the organization. I heard the same thing from four sources this afternoon, that the “deal is done”. There are four minor holdups:

    1) the PR nuts and bolts;
    2) making sure the deferred portion conforms to MLB union guidelines;
    3) confirming to all parties that A-Rod chose to not have Boras present, though included via consultation;
    4) approval of the Commissioner’s office.

  612. Bob November 14th, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    How about them Apples.Boras must be fired first or have his mouth taped.

  613. Prince November 14th, 2007 at 4:36 pm

    Report:

    Miller has just saved 3 kittens from a burning building!

  614. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 4:37 pm

    “How about them Apples.Boras must be fired first or have his mouth taped.”

    Im guessing Boras is loving this

  615. Rebecca--Optimist Prime November 14th, 2007 at 4:37 pm

    G. Love and Murphydog: I’m with the WGA. As is most of America.

    Forget the DVD sales, you all need to make a part of the Net profits, since that’s where everything’s heading.

  616. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 4:37 pm

    Boras is not going to be fired. He’s going to get his 4 points.

  617. Dee November 14th, 2007 at 4:37 pm

    gayle – cool, thanks!

  618. Harley November 14th, 2007 at 4:38 pm

    Will someone please tell Pete that aliens have landed in Central Park? (I apologize in advance if this joke is second hand already.)

  619. DrewEsq November 14th, 2007 at 4:38 pm

    Any truth to the rumor that Scott Boras was seen walking around Florida in a blonde wig, “F*** OFF” shirt, and holding hands with A-Rod just before the meeting?

  620. Hugh Stacks November 14th, 2007 at 4:38 pm

    So SJ44, you still thinks this takes the Yankees out of the Johan sweepstakes like you said yesterday?

  621. mel November 14th, 2007 at 4:38 pm

    If Alex really did stand up to Boras, and if this really works out, then I have to say that my respect for Alex will go up considerably.

  622. Fat Man in Tiny Coat November 14th, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    Open Letter to Alex Rodriguez

    Mr. Rodriguez,

    I realize you’ll probably never read this. And that’s fine. But being the sole practitioner of my own religion which combines aspects of Taoism with Zen Buddhism and a liberal topping of idealism, realism, and science fiction-esque lunacy, I believe in some cosmic way that simply typing this post and submitting it will make it’s way through the universal consciousness and implant itself in your subconsciousness thus influencing your decision to rejoin the Yankees.

    That said, I hope to address some of the thoughts, opinions, and feelings wafting through the baseball universe since the end of the 2008 season.

    Your first year with the Yankees was a bit rough. Fan dissatisfaction was liberally vocalized and any human being with a heart and even a miniscule ego would feel all that booing. A lesser man would have crumbled. I give you kudos for withstanding that barrage and still performing the way you did. I couldn’t have done it. At the slightest hint of the first boo, I’d have jumped over the infield wall, tracked down the culprit, and choked him with a pinstripe while invading his most holiest of holes with my Louisville slugger.

    I’m from the Northern NJ/NYC area. Patience and a long fuse are about as foreign to this area as humbleness is in that fantasyland in Barry Bonds’ brain. This is a character trait of the majority of Yankee fans. We live in the greatest city in the world; we don’t have time for nonsense. Time is money here and as someone whose very name is a brand and trademark, I’m sure you can appreciate that. That said, we don’t beat around the bush either. When things make us happy, we cheer. When things disappoint us, we boo. You should see what we do to pedestrians and Starbuck’s baristas-in-training. When Yankee fans boo it doesn’t mean we don’t care. If anything, it means we care A LOT! If you have a few disappointing at-bats in a row, we let you know we expect more from you just as we’re sure that you expect more from yourself. YOU know you can hit. WE know you can hit. The booing is our way of saying, “Alright Alex, this isn’t you. Let’s stop the nonsense and get back on track.” We’re not gonna coddle you. You’re a grown man. We’re not gonna CHEER for you if you have a week long batting slump. What lame, fruity little sissy world is that where people who do bad are cheered? The bottom line is that when Yankee fans STOP booing, that’s when you need to worry because it means we don’t care anymore; we’re fed up. But Alex, no one has garnered more cheers than you in the past 3 years. Remember that.

    Anywho, I’m sure you don’t take it personal. All the booing in the world doesn’t change the fact that when your time is up, you will go down as the best player in baseball history. No one can deny you that. That knowledge should trump all the booing. However, don’t make the same mistake Bonds did and let that fact stop you from being humble. While you may be the best player in baseball, the game itself is greater than you. Just as it’s given you everything in the world, it can take it away. And no one knows more about baseball karma than Yankee fans. The Baseball Gods occasionally directly effect games our boys have played in.

    Put this experience in perspective. You play for the greatest franchise in all of sports. Simply being a Yankee boosts your marketability tenfold. If you played for any other team the rest of your career, your name would be mentioned with much less mystique and reverence than if you played as a Yankee the rest of your career. Name the greats of any other team and they can’t hold a candle to Ruth, DiMaggio, Mantle, Gehrig, Berra, Jackson, etc. Your plaque would be a natural addition to monument park. You play on the biggest stage in the world. Going into the Hall of Fame as an Angel or a Giant or Godforbid a Met just doesn’t hold the same weight as going in as a Yankee. Having that NYY hat on proves you performed under the biggest spotlight in all of sports. Your legacy could not be denied.

    Pay no attention to the Yankee fans who dismissed you the second you opted out. They don’t understand the subtle nuances of the baseball behind-the-scenes and negotiations. Those who dismissed you are a reactionary bunch. Logic and rationality do not factor into their comments. Their reactions are akin to the kind of guy, who after getting dumped, tells his former girlfriend things like, “I didn’t need you anyway! I was gonna dump you a week ago! You’re the worst girlfriend ever!”. Basically, their angry and dismissive attitude is a basic defensive reaction to ‘being dumped’. They feel betrayed so they’re trying to deflate the blow to their fragile ego’s by pretending they didn’t care much anyway. That type of reaction is extremely common in un-evolved psyche and would be hilarious if it weren’t so sad and commonplace. But you have a healthy ego. Let’s be real, perhaps a bit too much but I can’t exactly say it isn’t warranted. If I was acknowledged as the best baseball player on the planet, possibly ever, making 25 million dollars a year, you’d be hard pressed to fit any furniture in the same room as my head, nevermind other people. So don’t worry about the naysayers. There are still a lot of people who want you here in New York. And yes, some of them will still boo when all of this is water under the bridge.

    Let’s be honest. Baseball is a business. In Little League it’s a game. In Babe Ruth League it’s a game. The second you start getting paid for playing, it’s a business. Anyone who doesn’t treat it as such is a short-sighted fool. You only have one chance on this planet. You have been blessed with talent that may not be replicated for another century. You have to strike while the iron is hot and make the most of it. And that is exactly what you are doing. I would do the same in your situation. So would any man with half a brain.

    Baseball fans are a bit of an idealistic bunch. We like to think that loyalties of players surpass money because in a sense, as fans of these teams, we take it as a direct acknowledgment of us, the fans. When a player opts to leave a team we tend to think on some level that WE are being rejected. Anytime a players loyalty is questioned, someone will be right there to bring up a Jeter, or Schilling, or Paul O’Neill. All great players in their own sense, but none of which have ever been remotely regarded as the best player on the planet. And therein lies the difference.

    Derek Jeter can claim his undying loyalty to the Yankees. He’s frankly getting paid more than his performance warrants, which means there are intangibles that factor into his salary. Something unmeasurable, so he cannot exactly be used asa a measuring stick. Same with Schilling. He knows he’s lucky to get 8 mil for a season at this point. I’ll lop off my left nut if he wins 14 games in 2008. And with Paul O’Neill, people mistook his competitiveness for some sort of loyalty. Pauly wasn’t loyal to the Yankees, he was just so heads-and-shoulders more competitive than anyone else, that it was easily mistaken as such. Pauly just wanted to win and would kill anyone in the way…and then eat their heart afterwards. It’s hard not to love that kind of passion worn on the sleeve like that. Baseball fans’ idealism tends to magnify the minority to a degree which directly calls into question the majority. The majority being the fact that most baseball players are mercenaries and go where the money is. If players were truly loyal you wouldn’t have guys like Johan Santana demanding to leave the Twins because he wants to win. I’ll bet dollars to cents that after Johan files for free agency next year and gets signed by (hopefully the Yankees) another team, most Twins fans will vilify him as a greedy hired arm. Such is the nature of the beast.

    So forget all this nonsense about ‘repairing your reputation’. You already have the reputation as the best player on the planet and regardless of what you do that cannot be denied you. If you come back to the Yankees, you will be welcomed just as heartily as you were vilified when you opted out. Even more so because chances are if you resign with the Yankees, it will be for 7+ years and fans know we won’t have to worry about renegotiating a contract with you for almost a decade. Worry free fans make happy fans. You will be cheered more than ever and with the way the team is looking in terms of young talent, a championship in 2009 in the new stadium is a VERY REAL possibility.

    We want you back Alex. If there’s any truth behind ‘earning your pinstripes’ (which I think is nonsense by the way…) coming back for a long term would do just that.

    And frankly, if you negotiate without Boras and make good on the money that the Yankees lost when you opted out, I don’t see how anyone who held those things against you could continue to do so and call themselves logical or rational.

    And when the playoffs come back around in 08 or 09, just do what Dustin Pedroia did. Say to yourself, “I hit over .300 this year (tag on 50+ homers and 140+ RBI in your case). Now, come the playoffs, they tell me I can’t hit? That’s crazy. I know I can hit.”

  623. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 4:39 pm

    A lot of us in here said from the get go that we wouldn’t be surprised to see this happen. For Arod to take control, possibly jettison Boras, and go back to the Yankees and give them the Texas discount.

    I always felt the drama of it all was too much for Arod to pass up.

    I’m shocked. Although less shocked after Miller planted the seeds a few days ago in here.

    And no one should bash Pete for this. I hope my comments weren’t construed as bashing.

    I’m not bashing, just ribbing. I mean, how many crazy rumors get posted in here every day. How is he supposed to know that Miller was Deep Throat in All The President’s Men?

    It’s just crazy that a lot us knew about this before it happened today because we read this crazy blog.

  624. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    Hank speaks.
    http://www.nj.com/news/index.s.....rn_to.html

  625. Dee November 14th, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    If Arod signs, in retropects, Hank handled this whole thing perfectly.

  626. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    It’s a done deal folks. Read the statement from Hank in that link I provided.

  627. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    Yes, he did, Dee. I’m liking Hank.

  628. Crawling Back November 14th, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    See the ealiest post I made with the above name….CRAWLING BACK….that is exactly what A-Rod is going to do…..So up next—–> A-Rod and Mo both sign, Pettite signs, we get Lowell to play 1st base, we sign Santana and Kazmir…then all the fans get 14K gold “Official Yankees fan rings” given to them opening day ! LOL !

  629. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 4:42 pm

    What should be obvious is that all of this has gotten legs over the past few days and is now coming out because it’s allowed to come out. The Yankees have a “media blackout” policy; if you break it, your relationship is terminated.

    The fact that I’m discussing this should tell you that the blackout has been lifted. The PR machine is at work….

    And those of you who have praised Hank for being the “tough guy” in this instance couldn’t be more right. The difference between he and his father is that Hank has been able to learn from watching his father. The organization is in good hands.

  630. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 4:42 pm

    Somewhere in the Caribbean, Jeter just rolled off a supermodel, picked up his ringing cellphone and screamed “Noooooooooooooo” into his cellphone.

    No doubt. Talk about raining on a parade. Heck ill take over if he is not longer up for it.

  631. mel November 14th, 2007 at 4:42 pm

    Dee,

    The only thing that this proves is that Hank is the MVP of the “Chicken” league and that we should never doubt the power of the pinstripes. ;)

  632. gayle November 14th, 2007 at 4:43 pm

    I really hope someone (pete or someone in his absence) comes in here and starts a new thread it will be really hard to go through thousands of comments with everything that is going on

  633. PB in DC November 14th, 2007 at 4:43 pm

    I love this message board (and Yankee fans, collectively).

    The A-Rod bashing has become A-Rod blowing… again.

    Hope the deal gets done, sure, but it doesn’t change the fact that this guy is a scum bag.

  634. J-Dawg November 14th, 2007 at 4:44 pm

    Playing hardball with Hank is like taking a knife to a gunfight or hunting a bear with a slingshot- you’ll lose every time.

  635. B November 14th, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    How great would it be if they could re-sign A-Rod and still trade for Cabrera to play 1B? I probably could get 10 wins with that lineup and my fastball tops out at about 65.

  636. Brandon (I TOLD YOU ALEX WOULD BE BACK WOOOOHOOO !!!) November 14th, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    He can be a scum bag on my team anyday

    50/150

    AHHHH ALEX BEING ALEX :D

  637. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    It is officially IMPOSSIBLE for A-rod to go sign a larger deal with another club. He would look even worse than he has made himself look over the past few weeks

  638. mel November 14th, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    Mo messed up. He could’ve had his day in the sun if he had signed before today’s big news.

  639. Harley November 14th, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    SJ’s right. This is a very good day for Hank Steinbrenner. As for the strike, I wish I was sitting at home. Walking the line at Paramount is killin’ these old feet. (Tho’ Ugly Betty does bring us cupcakes, which is nice.)

  640. Jeff November 14th, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    Stay-Rod!!!

  641. -------- November 14th, 2007 at 4:46 pm

    Hank’s got the old man’s (base)balls.

  642. B November 14th, 2007 at 4:46 pm

    “it doesn’t change the fact that this guy is a scum bag.”

    As long as he’s still the best scumbag in baseball, he’s okay with me.

  643. White Plains Mike November 14th, 2007 at 4:46 pm

    http://arod.mlb.com/players/ro...../index.jsp

  644. hmmm November 14th, 2007 at 4:48 pm

    “The A-Rod bashing has become A-Rod blowing… again.”

    i resent this.

    some of us never stopped blowing!

  645. Brandon (I TOLD YOU ALEX WOULD BE BACK WOOOOHOOO !!!) November 14th, 2007 at 4:48 pm

    the 3rd party is Kevin Long

  646. Joe from Long Island November 14th, 2007 at 4:49 pm

    Hank has really done a good job with this. Winning a staring contest with Scott Boras. Not bad.

    And I’m not being sarcastic.

  647. The Fallen Phoenix November 14th, 2007 at 4:49 pm

    Aside from a quick emotional outburst the night A-Rod opted out (which may or may not have been related to ROCKTOBERFEST’s official end)–albeit one that lingered far longer than I should have let it–I personally have tried as best as I could to refrain from basing Rodriguez.

    I have no problem hating Rodriguez the person, but if he’s a Yankee, I will certainly love Rodriguez the player, especially if he has five or six more 900+ OPS years ahead of him.

  648. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 4:49 pm

    I will hereby withdraw all the bad things i’ve said about Alex since he opted out. I will not however withdraw all the bad things I’ve said about Brass. Everyone needs to be on the look out for little green men taking the subway from Central Park.

  649. Kill-Schill(ing) November 14th, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    I’m ecstatic. That’s all I have to say. Jubilant, Exultant, Ecstatic.

    After seeing the options at 3B, I’m became more and more adamant there was no way the Yankees could compete for the AL East next year without him.

    Now, I only wish I could get some work done and refrain from listening to sports radio.

  650. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    Make that Borass.

  651. Jeff November 14th, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    Kevin Long is doing a great job.

  652. B November 14th, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    I’d like to take full credit for all of this. I texted Alex last week complaining that my A-Rod jersey was worthless.

  653. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    G.LOVE-yanklifer,

    Yes. Hank made a statement.

    “You had me at Hello. You had me at hello!”

    Alex responds
    “show me the moneeeeee!!!!”

  654. Brandon (I TOLD YOU ALEX WOULD BE BACK WOOOOHOOO !!!) November 14th, 2007 at 4:52 pm

    if Kevin Long is the 3rd party I suggest he gets a 10 % raise :)

  655. mel November 14th, 2007 at 4:52 pm

    Kevin Long makes makes sense because I’m sure that Alex is doing off-season workouts with him.

  656. The Fallen Phoenix November 14th, 2007 at 4:53 pm

    Though I don’t hate A-Rod the person, even though I’d have no problem hating A-Rod the person while loving A-Rod the player. But that’s because I try to refrain from hating people in general. From what I know of A-Rod the person, I very much dislike him.

  657. Kill-Schill(ing) November 14th, 2007 at 4:53 pm

    I’m ecstatic. That’s all I have to say. Jubilant, Exultant, Ecstatic.

    After seeing the options at 3B, I’m became more and more adamant there was no way the Yankees could compete for the AL East next year without him and not decimate their farm system and mortgage their future.

    Now, I only wish I could get some work done and refrain from listening to sports radio.

  658. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 4:53 pm

    Bobcat is right. All this stuff wouldn’t be coming out now unless an agreement in principle (with the points Bobcat accurately pointed out still in play) was in place.

    There is no way this is some publicity stunt for Arod to shop the offer to other teams.

    If they have to adjust the deferred money to meet MLB guidelines, they will.

    He’s coming back and Hank Steinbrenner accomplished what NOBODY in the game has done in the last 20 years……he humbled Scott Boras.

  659. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    Rebecca:

    I hear ya’ but I was always told NEVER take from NET profits – - always take from GROSS.

  660. pat November 14th, 2007 at 4:55 pm

    Fallen Phoenix

    If you’re like most here, you don’t know A-Rod the person. You know A-Rod the media story.

  661. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 4:55 pm

    “if Kevin Long is the 3rd party I suggest he gets a 10 % raise”

    He ought to get 10% of the new contract if he pulled this off.

  662. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 4:56 pm

    Not to toot my horn, but I guessed Kevin Long when the story first broke.

    OK I’ll toot. toot toot

  663. mel November 14th, 2007 at 4:56 pm

    SJ44,

    I don’t know. I think that the teams negotiating with Scott’s other clients might not be so happy. Boras is going to have to make up for the commission of the money Alex leaves on the table. lol.

  664. J-Dawg November 14th, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    Kevin Long, huh? So much for my guess, I thought that the third person could be Shelley Duncan. It would be fun to hear Shelley hammering out contract demands.

  665. jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge November 14th, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    Sweeny says the hardest part is over, getting Hank/Hal to take the phone call.

  666. Torre, Torre, Torre November 14th, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    It’s almost 5 PM – what’s the current status?

    Big props to Miller for reporting this 36 hours ago, and big props to me, cause I’m the one who persuaded him to publish. :)

  667. Torre, Torre, Torre November 14th, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    I guess Peter turned-off his cellphone.

    oh boy, is his editor gonna have a fit.

  668. yup yup November 14th, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    Reports are the that the only way yanks to sign arod is if sign that A-Rod would need to fire Boras for the Yankees to exclude him from negotiations. Otherwise, it would be a violation of the Basic Agreement.

  669. Dee November 14th, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    Sweeny is on the FAN.

    He said it was hard to get Hank to take Arod’s phone call. Once they got on the call, Arod apologized to Hank, and said he didn’t know that’s how the opt out was gonna get handled.

  670. Sara November 14th, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    Does he have an opt out clause in the new contract???

  671. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    Sweeney sounds like he is and was late on this story.

  672. Joe from Long Island November 14th, 2007 at 5:01 pm

    And don’t think Scott Boras is some evil person.

    He appears to be very professional. His mission is to advocate for his clients, and get them the best contract and the very last dollar. He has been very successful at that, and many of us wish we had him advocating for us.

    In his Centerstage interview with Michael Kay a while back, he spoke of how he saw MLB teams callously deal with lots of young kids. So, he wants to balance it out a little bit. What’s wrong with that.

    Forget the Svengali stufff. Alex is a big boy. He had to have signed off on the shenanigans the last few weeks. Now he is having second thoughts, and wants to go back to the Yankees. Nothing wrong with changing your mind. We’ll see how Boras spins this, but he was doing his job.

  673. natty November 14th, 2007 at 5:01 pm

    arods coming back. go to arod.com to see statement. its getting released in the next 48 hours. 275 mil, 10 years without boras

  674. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 5:02 pm

    hmmm
    November 14th, 2007 at 4:48 pm
    “The A-Rod bashing has become A-Rod blowing… again.”

    i resent this.

    some of us never stopped blowing!

    um… ew

  675. Torre, Torre, Torre November 14th, 2007 at 5:02 pm

    I guess we can kill the “little” Stein references.

    Hank to Boras ~ “How you like me now, Beeyatch?!”

  676. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 5:02 pm

    This sure beats the snot out of all those Crede for Damon rumors thank God.

    I cannot wait to see Boras’ first statement about this.

    Do you think this might be the beginning of the end of his empire?

    I mean, Arod is still going to get a massive contract, but being handled, and Boras hand been handled here, puts a nice dent in his armor.

    If he strikes out on the mega deal (that I’m skeptical of) he’s been saying he’s going to get Lohse and Andruw Jones this off season, Boras is gonna look even worse.

    Could Boras lose Texiera over this?

  677. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 5:02 pm

    Please stop speculating as to who “Deepthroat” is. It’s inconsequential. Just know that some people can get inside the ivory tower; others can’t.

  678. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:03 pm

    Joe, if I were able to hit the breaking ball better, I’d look up Boras in a NY minute.

  679. Adrian November 14th, 2007 at 5:03 pm

    A-Rod is particually a Yankee and Pete is on vacation.Man lately Pete has lost his stuff WFAN and crappy blogs are beating him over a day to the punch.

    Pete give us some info it’s not a rumor/

  680. CaptainsCorner November 14th, 2007 at 5:03 pm

    10 years and $280m????!!! If that is true are the Yanks NUTS!!! The Yanks would be over paying by probably $50m. The only people who want Arod is the Angels, and they would never touch that amount of money there offer was probably closer to $200m. I really hope that is not the deal that they are giving him. Also not only the money but 10 years?? I would only give him 8 years at most.

  681. The Fallen Phoenix November 14th, 2007 at 5:03 pm

    pat,

    Hence why I said *of what I know*. I am not pretending to know anything about who A-Rod really is, or how he really acts, or anything other than what I’ve heard directly from him in the form of quotes/interviews, or from what I’ve heard from the media.

    It’s also another reason why I made sure to emphasize that I don’t *hate* this A-Rod, aside from the fact that I try not to hate *anybody*–it’s especially hard to hate somebody that you do not know, although in my lifetime I have made one exception to that rule, and it’s a pretty personal one.

    I’ve actually used this same line of reasoning, applied to Barry Bonds, back when he passed Hank Aaron on the all-time home run list; a bunch of people were crucifying Bonds on a message board, and I tried to point out how one could not reasonably “hate” Bonds the person, although it’s certainly within one’s prerogative to hold that feeling. Especially since feelings are often irrational as it is.

  682. Migames November 14th, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    Heyman, Boras bf, is confirming all of it:
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

  683. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    Hank is proving to be a good one.

  684. 12345 November 14th, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    HEY PETE YOURE REALLY BLOWING IT. WAY TO MISS THE BOAT ON THIS ONE. STOP PULLING A MARBURY AND GET SOME INFO.

  685. Doreen November 14th, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    I know I should not care this much, but I’m very encouraged that this may actually happen. And I only hedge because stranger things have happened and I’m waiting for the definitive PR statement.

  686. Agent47 November 14th, 2007 at 5:06 pm

    This writers strike has put on hold all my favorite shows but I understand that the writers need to get what they deserve. Hopefully it can be resolved soon but I doubt it.

  687. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 5:06 pm

    Boras isn’t evil. He’s an agent and a very good one.

    Sometimes, a guy misreads the market. If this goes down the way it seems to be going, it looks like he misread the market.

    He DEFINITELY misread the PR in the way he handled the opt out.

    That said, Arod showed he had a pair. For his entire life, he has left the big decisions in his life to Boras.

    The fact that he had the guts to even call the Steinbrenners is a serious step in his maturity.

    Is it circus? Sure it is. But, as Graig Nettles said 30 years ago, “Some kids grow up wanting to play for the Yankees. Others want to join the circus. I feel fortunate, I have both”.

    It definitely applies here! lol

  688. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:07 pm

    Notice that Heyman is hardly mentioning that the Yanks insisted that Boras not be a part of the negotiating? It’s not a big enough deal for Heyman or is he too busy wiping Boras’s brown stains off his nose?

  689. Torre, Torre, Torre November 14th, 2007 at 5:07 pm

    BREAKING

    Martians just landed in Central Park!

  690. J-Dawg November 14th, 2007 at 5:07 pm

    Many of us were skeptical about the way that Hank Steinbrenner was handling himself at first, but now I think that I he is doing a great job. He was able to beat Scott Boras at his own game. That’s definitely an impressive feat. That by itself lends irrefutable proof that the Yankees will be in good shape with him sliding into George’s shoes.

  691. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 5:08 pm

    Dudes – Pete has been on call 24-7 for the last 10 months – Is this a big story – you bet, but I think his need for a vacation is well deserved.

  692. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 5:08 pm

    Heyman just joined the party. This must have killed him to write. I could see a defeated Boras crumbling like the warden at the end of Shawshank telling Heyman, “Write what you want, John. Write what you want.”

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

    I’m absolutely enraged that they are crediting the Daily News and not Miller! This has to stop.

  693. Rebecca--Optimist Prime November 14th, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    murphydog: I mean internet profits ;)

  694. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    Rosenthal:

    The Yankees will be in violation of baseball’s collective-bargaining agreement if they exclude agent Scott Boras from their negotiations with his client, Alex Rodriguez.

    “That clearly is a violation of the Basic Agreement,” Michael Weiner, the general counsel of the players’ union, told FOXSports.com on Wednesday.
    “Once a player designates an agent, a club cannot refuse to meet with that agent.”

    Rodriguez, a free agent, is again discussing a contract with the Yankees, according to the New York Daily News. The team wants to bypass Boras in the negotiations, the Daily News says.

    “We will not negotiate with Scott Boras,” a Yankees source told the paper. “He cannot be in the room.”

    However, Yankees officials likely know that they cannot exclude Boras, sources say.

    The Yankees can avoid Boras only if Rodriguez fires the agent and chooses either to represent himself or pick another representative.

    Rodriguez gives no indication that he is ready to fire his longtime agent.

    WOnder how that will work out. I bet Boras to save his clients face will just sign off on it. Get his commission and shut up.

  695. Torre, Torre, Torre November 14th, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    Ducky Bent-

    SAT Question

    Heyman is to Scott Boras, as..

    Fixed News is to the GOP.

  696. SJ44 November 14th, 2007 at 5:11 pm

    Boras isn’t losing to lose his stable over this. The guy is loved by his clients. He has real client loyalty, rarely seen in the agent business.

    Sometimes, agents and teams get into it over a player.

    A few years ago, George himself had a pretty derogatory comment to make to Arn Tellem in Tampa over some issues regarding Giambi and Matsui.

    Stuff happens during negotiations. Overall though, Scott will still be the most powerful agent in the business.

    He just got his nose bloodied a bit by Hank. After all these years, its ok. Even Ali got knocked down in his career.

    Boras is a big boy. He can handle it.

  697. NJ November 14th, 2007 at 5:11 pm

    Sign A-Rod and then trade him for the entire Florida Marlins minor league system as well as Miguel Cabrera.

  698. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 5:12 pm

    Folks get it right. The third person was Betimet, he called alex and told him to comeback so he can go on with eating all the dohnuts and pizzas he wants.

  699. murphydog November 14th, 2007 at 5:12 pm

    Rebecca:

    I was kidding. Too good to pass up.

  700. Ranting Guy November 14th, 2007 at 5:12 pm

    If he comes back I can’t wait to hear what Fenway’s reaction will be the first game up there.

    I can’t wait to read Brandon’s reaction(s) here too.

  701. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:12 pm

    Torre, Torre, Torre.

    LOL. Or…………FOX News is to the GOP! ;)

  702. CaptainsCorner November 14th, 2007 at 5:14 pm

    This just in Jeter is seen at a local bar drinking everything he can get his hands on and screaming “Hank you lied you said you wouldnt bring this loser back!!!”.

  703. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:16 pm

    G Love,

    Notice how “mild” Heyman’s article was? Boras’s name almost got lost in it and there is no mention that the Yank’s insisted Boras not be a part of the negotiatians. All he said was something like, “Boras did not participate.”

    What a tool.

  704. Dee November 14th, 2007 at 5:17 pm

    So why do you guys think is the real reason he came back?

    No better offer? image backlash? or he really wanted to stay in the first place?

  705. Rebecca--Optimist Prime November 14th, 2007 at 5:17 pm

    murphydog: Yeah, thought you might be :-D

  706. The D train November 14th, 2007 at 5:18 pm

    For a board that had many Yankee fans trashing Hank and Hal Steinbrenner for their handling of the Torre matter, things have suddenly cooled.
    Big brother Hank has shown that he can in fact play hardball with player agents. Now he gets a chance to deal with the biggest prize of all, one Mr. Scott Boras.
    Anybody know the whereabouts of Randy Levine lately ?

  707. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 5:20 pm

    I still hope its not a 10 year contract. Im surprised most of you arent against it. We might of outbid ourselves again as we did with Giambi. Sorry not too excited of having him till the age of 42. 39 tops.

  708. Paul9 November 14th, 2007 at 5:20 pm

    Great Day to be a Yankee Fan……Bring A-rod Back

  709. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:22 pm

    Dee, I actually believe that A-Rod wanted to remain a Yank, yet wanted to see his market value out there, hoping the Yanks will pay him whatever was (the more the merrier). I think that he and Boras handled it wrong, by not listening to the Yanks initial offer and opting out the way they did.

    For anyone to say with any conviction that there definitely wasn’t a market for him on NOV 14, and that he had to go back to the Yanks is ridiculous and not based on facts or any inside information.

    I do believe that given time there’d be at least one team offering more than the Yanks are now offering.

  710. Torre, Torre, Torre November 14th, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    Dee- probably all those reasons and more.

    S.o.S.27- I know, but atleast ARod takes care of his body. Giambi never took care of himself (all the stories of his fast food binges and lazyness).

  711. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 5:24 pm

    You’re going to hear a lot of complimentary things said in the next few days regarding how Hank handled this, and they will be accurate. But be real clear about something: this was a HUGE step for A-Rod to make. He did the right thing.

    The fact that there are others in the organization’s history that have done the same was not lost on him.

    Of greater import, however, is A-Rod’s legacy. He’s reached the point financially, where he realizes he’s never going to spend however much he has “left on the table”.

    Athletes are not normal, in that their competitive nature is on a level most of us cannot relate to. The massive egos that go with the territory sometimes drive players to lose site of the “big prize”. In A-Rod’s case, the “big prize” is not money.

    There is no greater place to be a baseball player than in a Yankees’ uniform. And no greater uniform in which to be the all-time home run king.

    The legacy to be left by the all-time home run king who was a Yankee is immeasurable. That’s what’s behind all of this, and to A-Rod’s credit, he’s been big enough to reach out and apologize to the organization. Don’t minimize how much courage that took.

  712. Joe from Long Island November 14th, 2007 at 5:24 pm

    SJ44 – I remember that Graig Nettles line!

    As long as the circus comes in the off-season, that’s fine.

    And the Yankees will continue to have a good working relationship with Boras, he has too many players that he represents.

  713. randy l. November 14th, 2007 at 5:25 pm

    the boston papers had it that boras was beaten by the red sox in the matsuzaka last minute signing. the thing i notice is that boras seems to always the one taking a check to the bank.
    when the final numbers come out on this one, i’m sure boras will be laughing all the way to the bank as usual.

  714. Joe from Long Island November 14th, 2007 at 5:25 pm

    It’s just business. Nothing personal. Just business.

  715. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 5:25 pm

    So why do you guys think is the real reason he came back?

    No better offer? image backlash? or he really wanted to stay in the first place?

    (A) Miguel Cabrera really beat down the market for his services.

    (B) Boras really overestimated his value and the market

    (C) No team could honestly afford a $300 mill player except the yankees

    (D) No big market teams:
    No owner for Cubs
    Angels and Dodgers officially stated they won’t overpay
    Boston officially said we want Lowell first

  716. sunny615 November 14th, 2007 at 5:27 pm

    If arod’s offer is really $280 mil, and Boras gets his 5%, he’ll make a cool $14 mil for doing nothing.

  717. mel November 14th, 2007 at 5:27 pm

    Kay talked to a very high-ranking Yankee official. Not a done deal yet.

  718. Peter Rabbit November 14th, 2007 at 5:28 pm

    Michael Kay is battling with WFAN, trying to break his own story. “It’s *not* a done deal.”

    Whatever.

  719. Mike NYY- River Avenue Watch November 14th, 2007 at 5:28 pm

    Come on guys, get this thging done

  720. Chosen1s08 November 14th, 2007 at 5:29 pm

    I wouldnt mind if we ended up getting Arod back as long as we get an Arod like last year who was there to play not an Arod just looking for a bigger paycheck.

  721. SHARP SHOOTER November 14th, 2007 at 5:29 pm

    Sunny615 don’t forget Boras made Arod look GREEDY and unreasonable!

  722. Joe from Long Island November 14th, 2007 at 5:30 pm

    Peter Rabbit – You are probably right. Kay trying to make himself and ESPN relevant.

  723. Tommy November 14th, 2007 at 5:30 pm

    Michael Kay bragging that a source as highly placed as can be without being a Steinbrenner, just told him that the deal is not at all close to being done.
    Good chance, but not close.

  724. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    Ummm Michael Kay? Explain this, you fool. It HAS to be done now or else the Yanks and AROD will look unrecoverably foolish.

    http://www.nj.com/news/index.s.....rn_to.html

  725. stuart November 14th, 2007 at 5:34 pm

    the yanks are breaking the rules in not allowing Borass to get involved only if any of the parties give a crap….

    Borass will make his cash so he could care less….

  726. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:36 pm

    sunny-

    I have to disagree. The Sox, Angels, Dodgers and perhaps Giants would have been in it. My guess is somebody would have ponied up more than the Yank’s current offer.

    I also think that when the Sox didn’t offer Lowell another year, they had A-Rod in mind.

  727. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:38 pm

    I’m dying to hear the Yankee hater- Steve Sommers’ – take on this at 6:30. Trash away, Steve, we Yanks fans don’t care.

  728. randy l. November 14th, 2007 at 5:39 pm

    “For a board that had many Yankee fans trashing Hank and Hal Steinbrenner for their handling of the Torre matter, things have suddenly cooled.”
    if the yankees offered about 220 million before for 8 years, and now they are offering 280 million for ten years( if that is the offer), how does that make hank a genius?

  729. Mike NYY- River Avenue Watch November 14th, 2007 at 5:39 pm

    So who should I be listening to? Kay or Francesca and Russo?

  730. Crawling Back November 14th, 2007 at 5:39 pm

    In theory, Alex could come to the Yankees and volunteer to eat the $21.3 million the Yankees are losing from Texas. In theory, aliens could land in Central Park as well.
    ,
    ,
    check central park right NOW!!!!

  731. Patrick November 14th, 2007 at 5:42 pm

    The Yanks saying Boras isn’t involved and Boras not refuting it to help get the deal done is not the same thing as Boras not really being involved. Everyone involved has really good lawyers and no one would blatantly break a rule like that and open themselves up to litigation. I for one don’t care about any specifics, I’m just ecstatic that the Yanks are signing the best player in the game.

  732. JDnotDrew November 14th, 2007 at 5:42 pm

    Arod costs money and the Yanks have it. Any other option costs young talent(most likely pitching) or draft picks. This is a simple choice IMO, spend money not future stars. He’s trying to make it right and seems to want to be a Yankee. The market was there, he doesn’t need Yankee leverage. I think Borass convinced Alex that the Yanks could in no way turn their backs on him and they did.

  733. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 5:42 pm

    I definitely believe Miguel Cabrera threw a monkey wrench into Arod’s plans.

    What team wouldn’t rather trade players for a 24 year old stud corner IF who can play 3b and will make a 1/3rd of what Arod makes over the next couple of seasons?

    I’m sure the Angels and the Dodgers told Boras we’ll talk once we know if we’ve lost out on Cabrera.

    I do think he wants to remain a Yankee. Today wouldn’t have happened if he didn’t.

    I almost feel that the events of today was a trial balloon by the Yankees to see if their fans hated the idea of Arod coming back like this.

    I’m happy if he’s back. I never booed the guy. I know he cares about winning. The guy takes such good care of his body that comparing him to Giambi is an insult.

    I think he wanted to stay here all along. I know Arod was renting a house in Rye which is where I live. I see his wife at the gym I go to sometimes.

    I just think Boras sold him on the concept that why should the Yankees treat you any differently than Jorge and Mo who are also free agents. I think he might have gotten caught up in semantics and technicalities and faced with the proposition of starting over somewhere else, I think he’s done what he needed to do to prove to the Yankees that the opt out was not well thought out.

    As a fan, I just couldn’t imagine wanting to turn your back on being a Yankee, getting a monument, your number retired and possibly breaking Bonds’ record in NYC. It made no sense to me.

    I thought Boston had him in their hip pocket all along and maybe Boras had a deal with Boston to get the Yankees out of the picture and deliver Arod to them, but Arod was the only one who could have put a stop to it and appeared that he did.

    Now just sign on the line that is dotted.

    And someone go get Mo and drag him down to the Bronx to do the same. Stat!

  734. ML November 14th, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    Pete,

    I’m probably not the first to say this, but I”m really looking forward to your report on the Central Park Aliens.

  735. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    Randy? The Yanks offer (with an extension) WITHOUT negotiating with Boras and Arod would have been 297 million for 10 years. In essence, they deducted the 21 million they would have got from the Twins to make it 275 million.

    So yes, genius, and kudos to Hank.

  736. Yaaaankeeee Fan November 14th, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    Where is Dr. Acula?

    We miss the Doctor

  737. randy l. November 14th, 2007 at 5:44 pm

    “He just got his nose bloodied a bit by Hank. After all these years, its ok. Even Ali got knocked down in his career.”
    isn’t arod rumored to be getting 280 million from the yankees. how is it that boras has his nose bloodied? isn’t it the other way around?

  738. mel November 14th, 2007 at 5:44 pm

    Aliens have landed in Central Park before. One of them is famous, even. He wants it kept low-key because he’s mainstreamed pretty well, playing in the NBA, though he may be more well-known for his body art. The veneer is starting to crack, though. Michael Kay said today that he’s a “troubled individual”.

  739. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:45 pm

    In theory, Alex could come to the Yankees and volunteer to eat the $21.3 million the Yankees are losing from Texas. In theory, aliens could land in Central Park as well.
    ,
    ,
    check central park right NOW!!!!

    In theory? I have news for you. He DID. See my above post

  740. On D Ball November 14th, 2007 at 5:46 pm

    Information reaching the undersigned indicates that the Red Sox have not been able to reach an agreement with Lowell because every time his agent mentions money, the Red Sox mention The Wall.

    Apparently the Red Sox sell has been take much less money than for the Yankees because you need The Wall to be anything more than a journeyman ballplayer.

  741. saucy November 14th, 2007 at 5:48 pm

    i’ve been too busy today to comment, but this is good news. thanks for all the entertaining updates. :D

    (and no, i wasn’t busy working. i’m just a slow reader and never really made it to the bottom of the comments page)

  742. Mike NYY- River Avenue Watch November 14th, 2007 at 5:48 pm

    If this gets done I hope Jeter says something to support him. Otherwise we might have another A-Rod of 2006

  743. mel November 14th, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    If this gets done I hope Jeter says something to support him. Otherwise we might have another A-Rod of 2006

    Mike,

    Haven’t you heard? The rumor is that Alex has grown a pair. Might even win points with Jeter, who will do anything to win (except avoiding GIDPs). :)

  744. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:51 pm

    Jeter needs to sack up and stop obsessing over something A-Rod said about a decade ago, and drove down to Jeter’s place to apologize for.

    Is that how a “captain” should behave?

  745. Keith November 14th, 2007 at 5:52 pm

    Graig Nettles was always good with dry humor. He also said when the Yankees signed Goose Gossage as a free agent, “Sparky Lyle has gone from Cy Young to sayoonara”.

  746. Torre, Torre, Torre November 14th, 2007 at 5:52 pm

    Lowell to Yankees?!

    Gammon on ESPN NEWS (5:45PM) says Yanks are interested in Lowell playing FIRST BASE.

    Holy Cow.

  747. Mike NYY- River Avenue Watch November 14th, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    Lowell to Yankees?!

    Gammon on ESPN NEWS (5:45PM) says Yanks are interested in Lowell playing FIRST BASE.

    Holy Cow.

    No, you want to give Boston our first two picks for a guy that hit .230 before being saved by Fenway Park

  748. Mike NYY- River Avenue Watch November 14th, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    ?

  749. Tommy November 14th, 2007 at 5:55 pm

    I think we are beyond needing Jeter to publicly support Arod.

    I’ll admit, I’ve been an AROD fli flopper. Love the talent, don’t love some of the off the field baggage he brings.

    That said, if the Yanks do sign him to a contract that will guarantees he retires in NY, then it might be time everyone admitted that Arod is now the focal point of the team.

    Not Jeter, the official captain, or Posada, the unofficial captain.

    Time to go forward maintaining and retooling the team around Arod in the middle of the lineup.

  750. Tommy November 14th, 2007 at 5:56 pm

    Can’t we forget about Mike Lowell now? Please!

  751. Bobcat November 14th, 2007 at 5:57 pm

    Expect the Red Sox to give Lowell a three year deal with a year four option that kicks in based on performance incentives, much like Posada’s last contract.

  752. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:57 pm

    Mike-

    I’d still take Lowell at 1B over a broken down Giambi and Philips platoon. Any day.

  753. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 5:58 pm

    Plus Lowell is great with the glove….I’m sure he’ll adapt to the right side.

  754. Fleas November 14th, 2007 at 5:58 pm

    mike NYY, mike lowell is awesome. He has one bad year .. he was injured, and he still kept playing.

    mike lowell on first base and arod back on third would be a dream come true!

  755. Mike NYY- River Avenue Watch November 14th, 2007 at 5:59 pm

    Is it worth it though? Is Lowell worth the money and ESPECIALLY the draft picks?

  756. Chris NY November 14th, 2007 at 6:00 pm

    any chance Boras is actually behind this? Meaning, he realized the best deal will come from the Yankees becuase nothing better was coming and also realized that the way to get back in bed with the Yankees was for Alex to come back saying he wanted to speak directly to the Steinbrenners to patch things up…. then either Boras will re-emerge or he’ll be doing something with the contract behind the scenes…

    Nothing would surprise me at this point. Also wouldn’t surprise me if he actually fired Boras and handles it himself ala Sheffield, because he thinks he’s smart enough to do “this contract negotiation stuff” himself.

  757. mel November 14th, 2007 at 6:00 pm

    Tommy,

    The last step in Alex’s self-improvement program is to be himself.

    If he’s goofy, be goofy. If he’s horny, get caught with a blonde. If he messed up by doing something bush league, own up to it.

    Alex trips over himself trying to be perfect. He needs to realize that no one is perfect and that people will like him for who he is, not what he tries to be.

  758. ND Yank November 14th, 2007 at 6:01 pm

    You people are all crazy. Mike Lowell had one bad year in his career and that’s what everyone references. This guy hit all those years in Florida and there was no Fenway Park involved. He can hit anywhere and has. For 162 he hits .280 23 HR 97 RBI .812 OPS 110 OPS+

    All that being said, I’m not sure I want him on the Yanks.

  759. Rebecca--Optimist Prime November 14th, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    okay, that ‘wall’ comment got me going.

    We don’t need no education
    no dark sarcasm in the classroom

    etc.

    All in all, you’re just another brick in the wall…

  760. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    Unless we have a better plan for 1B then yes, I’d say Lowell is worth it.

    Giambi is nothing more than a DH that you can’t rely on giving you even half a season. Phillips? No thanks.

  761. Mike NYY- River Avenue Watch November 14th, 2007 at 6:03 pm

    Okay, granted he`s a good player but again, do you really want Boston to have those draft picks?

  762. OC Yankees Fan November 14th, 2007 at 6:04 pm

    There’s one simple reason why A-Rod changed his tune. At the end of your playing career, would you rather have a monument and a retired number in the new Yankee stadium, or a five-foot diameter sign (a piece of plywood) with your number painted on it somewhere in the stands above the concession stands in the outfield at Anaheim Stadium?

    That is one heck of choice!

    Oh, Kobe will do just fine by himself out here in the OC.

  763. Yankee Fan in Chicago November 14th, 2007 at 6:04 pm

    Lowell at first? Great. So we’l have 3 of our 4 infielders playing at positions that don’t suit their fielding skills.

    Lowell at 3rd, Arod at ss, and Jeter at 1st. Damn, now we’re talking.

  764. mel November 14th, 2007 at 6:04 pm

    Rebecca,

    You lost me with the Billy Joel, but very nice reference to Pink Floyd there.

  765. Johan the Great November 14th, 2007 at 6:04 pm

    A good first baseman for 3 years or a draft pick they may or may not pan out?

  766. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 6:04 pm

    I hear you about the draft picks, but then Boston would have to scramble for either a 3rd baseman or somebody to replace Youk if he takes over 3rd. it’s give and take, but I think it’s clearly in the Yank’s favor.

  767. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 6:06 pm

    Yank fan in Chicago,

    Lowell has the ability to field grounders and line drives from any side of the field. I believe he’s that good defensively. Plus, there will be less wear and tear on his body at 1st.

  768. Dood November 14th, 2007 at 6:07 pm

    Wow if that reported contract is right, Boras really played the Yankees. 2 extra years and $60 million guaranteed dollars plus incentives ?

    What happend to not negotiating if AROD opted out. Now they negotiate and look weak and give him a contract that is ridiculous.

    We are cursed.

  769. Doug November 14th, 2007 at 6:07 pm

    WE NEED PICTHING!!!!!!!!!!OR SOULD I SAY GOOD PICTHING

  770. Mike NYY- River Avenue Watch November 14th, 2007 at 6:07 pm

    I hear you about the draft picks, but then Boston would have to scramble for either a 3rd baseman or somebody to replace Youk if he takes over 3rd. it’s give and take, but I think it’s clearly in the Yank’s favor.

    Ortiz could play first and Manny could be the DH with Ellsbury taking over in left-field.

  771. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    Dood?

    Again. The Yanks offer BEFORE any negotiating and with an extension would have been 10/297. Now it’s a reported 10/275 AFTER negotiating. Do the math.

  772. Mike NYY- River Avenue Watch November 14th, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    Plus he`ll demand more money to play first base. 15 million for Lowell four years from now?

  773. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 6:10 pm

    I’d LOVE for the Sox to play Ortiz at first 162 games! Talk about a good comedy. Have you ever seen his range and inability to field grounders?

  774. #9 November 14th, 2007 at 6:10 pm

    “Graig Nettles was always good with dry humor.”

    Even after he left the Yankees and wrote that book about his experiences in the Bronx – I remember him in an interview in 1984 (now a Padre player) telling the interviewer:

    I’m not here to talk about the Padres – I’m here to talk about my “Balls”.

    “Balls” was the title of the book.

  775. Jimmy November 14th, 2007 at 6:11 pm

    How about Betemit? Where are his comments?

  776. Mike NYY- River Avenue Watch November 14th, 2007 at 6:12 pm

    I’d LOVE for the Sox to play Ortiz at first 162 games! Talk about a good comedy. Have you ever seen his range and inability to field grounders?

    Manny being replaced by Ellsbury doesn’t make up for that defensive loss at least somewhat

  777. Greg November 14th, 2007 at 6:12 pm

    I just wouldn’t want to see boston taking the draft pick the yankees give them and producing a superstar. that would hurt

  778. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 6:13 pm

    If we want to sign a high priced player for first. Lowell would cost us 4 years of 14 mil. Why not go with someone who already plays the position and hits over 300 for his carreer. HELTON. Again,if your going to spend all that money, spend it on someone with experience. Who knows Colorado might pick up some of his salary as well.

  779. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 6:13 pm

    Giambi’s 20 mil goes off the books next year. To get someone with a tremendous glove at 1B and a decent bat with some pop and a player with great attitude for 15 mil isn’t too bad in today’s market.

  780. Tommy November 14th, 2007 at 6:13 pm

    We need 1B open for Giambi, Duncan, Betemit.
    Posada at times down the line. Maybe even Matsui at times.
    We don’t need Lowell if Arod rejoins the Yanks.

    Mel:

    I like Arod for his on field exploits. I only find the other stuff bothersome because I get the impression that Team Borod expects the fans to give a bleep about it.
    I don’t!
    I’m a big fan of imperfection, believe me. I just don’t go for the attempts at masking them.
    I mean, team Borod portrays Alex and Cyn in some polyannish light, while Alex is criscrossing the country with his mistress. Cmon.

    I am only concerned with Arod the player. Nothing else.

  781. Ducky Bent November 14th, 2007 at 6:14 pm

    I’d love Helton too. But at what cost?

  782. jay destro November 14th, 2007 at 6:14 pm

    Pete… what a day to leave for vacation.

  783. G. Love November 14th, 2007 at 6:15 pm

    I really don’t like this Lowell to the Yankees thing floating around.

    We should be keeping 1b open for a run at Texeira or Carlos Pena next season who will both be free agents. We’re gonna need some younger power bats.

    I also like the idea of trying to see what we can get out of Shelley at 1b.

    Having Lowell there for the 4 seasons just doesn’t feel right.

    Plus losing the 1st round compensation pick to the Red Sox would hurt.

    Cashman and Oppenheimer have been hitting home runs late in the first round.

    I have a feeling those stories are leaking to try to goad the Red Sox into giving Lowell the 4th year.

  784. Torre, Torre, Torre November 14th, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    How about Betemit? Where are his comments?

    Betemit doesn’t believe in talking when his mouth is full.

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    In the last month Arod has:

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    I also think the deal is done and all this other stuff is the Yankees trying to help him save face.

  791. S.o.S.27 November 14th, 2007 at 6:19 pm

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  792. Motown Yankees Fan November 14th, 2007 at 6:20 pm

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    Now we’re hearing anywhere from 10 years/$275 Million to 10/Years $290 Million. Ironically, we’re also hearing that both LA Teams lead the suitors for Miguel Cabrera.

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  800. dontfirecash November 14th, 2007 at 6:33 pm

    Great, the Bronx’s favorite choke artist is set to return. I’m soooo happy. And I know we wouldn’t have made the playoffs without him, but it still doesn’t change my intense dislike of the man.

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  802. mel November 14th, 2007 at 6:42 pm

    If Heyman is Boras’ mouthpiece, is it safe to say that Boras & Heyman had no inkling of what was going on? (That’s assuming he is not the mastermind of this coup).

  803. migames November 14th, 2007 at 6:45 pm

    Good Point:
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    Despite reports that the Yankees would refuse to allow Rodriguez’s agent, Scott Boras, into the negotiations, Michael Weiner, the general counsel for the Players Association, told Newsday, “the union has been assured that the Yankees will respect Alex’s decision to designate Scott Boras as his representative.

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  807. DadinIowa November 14th, 2007 at 6:51 pm

    I thought MLB rules prevented the Yankees to sign any additional free agents if they signed all of theirs. If that is so, then we don’t have to worry about Lowell at first base.

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  809. A-fraud November 14th, 2007 at 6:56 pm

    Stray-Rod symbolizes two glaring issues prevalent in the United States: Greed and Vanity. Go fu*k yourself Alex, I’ll be booing you everytime you step to the plate, no matter how many homeruns you hit.

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    spoken like a true fan of the game…..

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    It’s a pissing match between Sterling and Kay. Sterling said there’s a 101% chance it gets done and Kay’s contact with the Yankees said no deal yet.

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