Karstens wins again for Team USA
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- November
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Got this e-mail today and figured I would share it:
Team USA beat Korea 3-1 today in the quaterfinals of the World Cup in Taiwan and the hero was Jeff Karstens.
He allowed one run on five hits in seven innings. He struck out seven without a walk and threw 66 of his 82 pitches for strikes. He was 2-0 in the tournament.
Team USA plays the Netherlands in the semifinals. Cuba and Japan play in the other semifinal.
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Nice…can you say ‘tradebait’? I hope all 29 other teams were watching.
Nice…can you say ‘tradebait’? I hope all 29 other teams were watching.
Nice, keep building up that trade value, Jeff!
Pete, strong work even on vacation. This blog rules
Impressive. Not quite Dice-K like, but impressive.
So, why can’t he do that in Yankee Stadium?
Dice-K would have walked five and been pulled in the 4th inning.
So what are the possibilities of using him in the rotation for 2008? While Kennedy may have looked good down the stretch, Karstens has more experience in the Majors.
This competition Karstens is pitching against must be so awesome…SARCASM OFF.
“So, why can’t he do that in Yankee Stadium?”
Maybe because he’s not facing major league hitters
“So what are the possibilities of using him in the rotation for 2008? While Kennedy may have looked good down the stretch, Karstens has more experience in the Majors.”
So? Kennedy’s a better pitcher. If he has a good ST, he should make it. Kennedy could actually pitch 180-190 innings this season, where Joba and Hughes should only go about 150-160.
If they all have good STs, we have a wonderful problem. If some don’t, then the choices are made for us.
Nothing against the Netherlands, but avoiding Cuba & Japan in the semis is nice.
No. These are Dice-K numbers! Impressive.
“Dice-K would have walked five and been pulled in the 4th inning.”
I though he only did that when the game was important (he,he).
Pete, thanks for posting even while on vacation.
WHO?
How many pitchers do they usually bring in to earn spots? Who will be there this year?
Joba, Hughes, Ian, Pavano, Igawa, Karstens, Rasner, at the very least.
And there’s bullpen guys, too?
Ohlendorf, Veras, Sanchez
Plus all the vets who need to get work in. How many does that add up to?
The netherlands has some much better hitters than korea. I ezpect karstens to get hit.
Karstens looks like a AAAA guy if he can’t spot the fastball and changeup… He shows flashes of being able to do it—but 2.5 times through the order, he always gets shelled or loses control, and then gets shelled.
Apologies, but I would just like to throw my two cents in and go back to the end of the last thread for a moment;
Joe Torre was the right manager at the right time, to use probably a very inappropriate analogy, just as Winston Churchill was the right PM for his time. Neither were perfect personalities with solutions for every period of time, only that their leadership styles the perfit fit for their time. Their time, in each case, came and went.Joe may not have known very many players in the farm system, but he did pretty well without that knowledge, just as Casey Stengel usually couldn’t recall the names of players who had been with him for years! Casey, by the way, also did dramatically unusual things, like pinch hitting Enos Slaughter against a good left handed relief pitcher like Don Mossi, and got the game winning single in the bottom of the ninth doing it (I was there.)
Now, I’m thrilled to death that Joe Girardi and his completely involved style is going to hopefully be with the Yanks for years to come. Times changes, situations change and Giradi, I believe and hope, is the right man for this particular time. He’s a dynamic, hands on leader, a motivator and a winner. It doesn’t hurt at all that he’ll also be completely clued up on the personnel he’s handed in the middle of the season.
Pavano is going to be release, he won’t be ready until August. Don’t think you’ll see him in st.
**edit button please!!
released!!!
“While Alex Rodriguez and the Yankees inch closer to a landmark contract agreement, the deal for another star has hit a snag. Mariano Rivera hasn’t accepted New York’s three-year, $45 million offer, looking for another year or more money on the current offer.”.......
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More Money ? Mo has lost his mind. He can look for MORE MONEY in LA, in Chicago, underneath his mattress ?...I say the Yankees offer him the exact same contract as Posada and if that is not good enough for him,,,then BaBye…and even THAT is a silly offer. I never thought MO to be such a greedy bastage…but MORE MONEY than 45million dollars to close ?.....he needs to stop smoking bananas and join us here on planet earth !
jennifer,
Sorry about that. Pavano was supposed to be on the list of guys trying out for the Gatorade Boy position.
Karstens is interesting. He looked great in spring training after bulking up and adding a a few mph to his fastball. But after his injury he looked horrible when he came back. Could be some potential there as a spot starter/long man.
“How many pitchers do they usually bring in to earn spots? Who will be there this year?”
All the ones they think are worth it. Some will get shipped over to minor league camp before the position players arrive, though. I suspect there will be a lot of them again this season, just because they have a lot of young guys that could see a little time in MLB this season.
“Joba, Hughes, Ian, Pavano, Igawa, Karstens, Rasner, at the very least.”
Joel Sherman reported a while ago that the Yanks were going to DFA Pavano before the Rule 5 draft in order to clear a 40-man roster spot so that they can protect an extra player.
Modulo any trades that are made:
SP:
Joba, Hughes, Ian, Igawa, Karstens, Rasner, possibly White, Horne, Clippard
RP:
Britton, Ramirez, Veras, Ohlendorf, Sanchez, Bruney, Henn, maybe Kozlowski
And, the vets, of course.
Given that guys pitch an inning or two at a time at first and there are “B” games, everyone should get a decent look. And, if someone goes to minor league camp after a slow start and starts ripping it up, he could get back to MLB camp if someone else starts stinking.
“But after his injury he looked horrible when he came back.”
Well, after missing a bunch of spring training, it’s not surprising that it’d take him a little bit to get back on the horse. Unfortunately, that comebacker robbed him of his season.
Guys
I realize Karstens isn’t Cy Young… maybe he’s not even Matt Young…
But if you go back to 2006, he really was a pretty serviceable guy.
He did break his leg this year – I doubt he was 100% when he returned.
Flip side – the level of competition wasn’t outstanding. He’s still NOT going to get you Cabrera or Santana in a trade.
He could still be a useful guy – as a swingman or a spot/emergency starter.
And he seems like a pretty good guy – so I’m happy for his success
whozat,
Thanks. Seems like a lot of guys, but it must be the same for every team.
There should be a lot of buzz at Yankee ST this year. Fans, media, and scouts will want to get a good look at the Big Three.
he can be our version of mendoza in the late 90’s … but thats about it.
It’s good that Karstens is able to pitch and get all of this extra work. Karstens and Darrell Rasner could possibly do some good for the Yankees as spot starters and long relievers. I haven’t heard anything about Rasner’s finger, but he has probably had plenty of time to recover from that by now.
Turns out Bobby Abreu isn’t such a bad RF after all. And to think so many people here think he’s just a horrible fielder.
http://www.baseballmusings.com/
You have to scroll down a bit to see the RF probability/range stats.
You all havent forgot that the base of our SP is Wang no one has even said is name in the list of the possible rotation guys
I think it’s assumed that Wang doesn’t have to earn his spot. I believe the list were all pitchers who are expected to compete for spots.
Newsday is reporting the Mo Rivera holding out for a 4th yr. Also I heard from someone else sides are at impasse.
can the best week of the offseason , turn into the worst????
ANYONE HEAR ANYTHING????????
And even after that performance Karstens apparently is useless to some people here.
Fantastic!
Trade him.
off topic-
do people have to continue to hit the refresh button like I do to update the comments, or is there some button/html voodoo that does it automatically?
and btw does anyone know much about mo’s agent? c’mon already. Is this standard procedure/posturing normal for this clients?
yankee land – you are right in that he wants either more money on the 3 year deal…OR he wants a 4th year added….Sorry MO…but tell your story walking…find another team willing to do that for ya…NOT GONNA HAPPEN….MO is just being a stubborn jerk about this and hopefully he can pull an A-Rod and realize his mistake soon. IMO.
from mlbtraderumors.com
Yankees Sign Jose Molina
A note from Mark Feinsand: the Yankees have signed Jose Molina to a two-year, $4MM deal. He’ll obviously serve as Jorge Posada’s backup.
What’s Mo’s agent doing?? He’s playing a very dangerous game.
Did you guys feel that quake just now? That was The Big Diesel reading today’s newspapers. Wade calls out Shaq!
It’s amazing what Karstens can do against non-mlb hitters. I saw him pitch a game in AAA after he was sent down and he was absolutely lights out. Didn’t even look like the same guy. Plain and simple he’s a #5 NL starter, career journeyman. He shouldn’t be anywhere in the Yankees plans.
LOL@DVB “he needs to stop smoking bananas and join us here on planet earth!” too funny.
The $45 million offer drew criticism from Major League Baseball executives in charge of monitoring salaries and payrolls, as sources said that Yankee executives Hal Steinbrenner and Randy Levine were admonished during yesterday’s owners’ meetings in Florida for drastically upping the market for relievers. That criticism figures to be further incentive for the Yankees to stand firmly behind the three-year offer, and it could dissuade other teams from topping it – something that was unlikely to take place anyway.
What transpired with Bonds and Boras tells me both share a case of delusion of grandeur and invincibility.
Jeff Karstens is a AAAA pitcher.
He is not trade bait and will never function as any kind centerpiece, so don’t be tempted to start running Johan Santana’s name in the same sentence as Karstens.
Trade! Trade! Trade! Sell high!
That’s my trade Karstens for anything with a pulse response for the day.
But seriously, you can’t tell me the Washington Nationals wouldn’t put Karstens into their rotation right now.
Let’s trade Karstens and Rasner for the broken down body of one Nick Johnson.
Then we’ll bring in mad scientists to make Nick Johnson fully bionic and we’ll have a 1b who looks like Ruth and plays like Gehrig.
Hell, while I’m at it, let’s offer 5 of our quadruple A starters to Washington for Cordero. We’ll give them a starting rotation and we get a set up man.
Lot of people may not agree with this, but as classy as he had been, Mo has been always greedy during the contract negotiations. As a Yankee official said earlier (when he was threatening to go to FA), he never gave any home team discount (not that I think he should), and always tried to squeeze the last penny from Yanks.
He is upset that Hank mentioned he is 38 years old!!! The fact is he is 38 years old, he had health issues in the past with his elbow,.... how does he exptect to guarantee 4 years. If he is still healthy and effective after three years, I am sure Yanks will give him another contract for a year or so at that time.
This whole non-sense about he was upset about not getting contract extension during ST, he should thank Cashman for that as he is able to get 45 mil contract for three years. In the ST, he would have probably been offered about two years for 24 mil.
The bottom line is all these players want to maximize thier contracts and that is prefectly alright. But, what Mo is trying to do is beyond greedy. He should know that he will not get another offer better than what Yankess have on the table. Let us see what his Joe in LA going to offer to him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mo or Hank… which one will blink?
If you think about the way Bernie Williams’ and Joe Torre’s contract situations were treated, not to mention how the door was slammed in A-Rod’s face until he apologized, you saw the Yankees come to a decision and stick to it. On the face of things you have to think Mo is coming to the end of the line soon.
4 years? I don’t know where he’s getting 4 years unless someone else is dopey enough to offer it… like the Mets did for Po.
Terrific link, Raymagnetic! The Yankee Brass actually know something (apart from the fact that they, like everyone on this blog, knew Abreu had an allergic reaction to walls); I guess there will be a lot of bloggers who will scratch their heads in amazement that the Yankees have people who look dispassionately at a players performance and properly evaluate that. Some of the posts would lead you to believe that Yankee management is living in cloud cuckoo land.
Seriously, as long as “Stick,” his protege, Cash and now Giradi, are on top of things, I feel very confident in the Yankee’s future!
Like I said yesterday, I need professional help. I’m beginning to think like Hank Steinbrenner.
Ok I really don’t care about Bonds and Arod anymore, b/c I’m FREAKING OUT about Mo!!
Mo PLEASE, I beg of you. 3/45 is a crazy good deal for you, for anyone in fact who’s a reliever! And please don’t sulk about what happened during ST, thanks to that you now have one more year and 20 more millions. And who cares Hank said you’re 38, truth is, you ARE 38, and age IS a very legitimate factor in pro performance. Please don’t do this, nothing good could come of it!
I think Hank is a breath of fresh air.
He is open, speaks his mind without the bluster of his father.
Sure, Pete and many here tried to kill him even before getting to know him.
I think he is good for the yanks.
I remember every one saying Cash is a figure head because of Hank’s personality. So much for that assertion given how things played out so far…..
BBFan- I agree with you. I like the change of personality with Hank taking over and Girardi becoming the manager. I’m not knocking Torre, I am just saying that there was a laid-back atmosphere for a while and now things are changing. Hank is definitely more hands-on and unafraid to ruffle feathers to get a point across. We all know about the extra fire and outward emotion that Girardi will bring. But I enjoy the fact that Hank is outspoken. I’m not saying that he has to be as loud and boisterous as Mavericks owner Mark Cuban, but it is good that he shoots from the hip. It was time for things to change.
BBFan,
Yes, Hank seems to be a good guy. But everytime he opens his mouth to take out the silver spoon, his foot goes right in.
mel
November 16th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
BBFan,
Yes, Hank seems to be a good guy. But everytime he opens his mouth to take out the silver spoon, his foot goes right in.
But at least it is a silver shoe.
Man, I am torn about Mo.
I think the offr is more than fair and he accepts it.
I think Hank has done well cosidering the amount of statements.
Aside from the pissing contest with Torre, he’s been fine.
He is far more restrained than his Dad was at a similar juncture.
I was in early on the 2 Bonds threads, but missed the heart of it.
For anyone interested in hearing a Lefty take on it, check out Dave Zirin at edgeofsports.com
LOL
Mel- Not only the silver spoon, but Hank also has to take out the cigar when he opens his mouth to speak.
“Yes, Hank seems to be a good guy. But everytime he opens his mouth to take out the silver spoon, his foot goes right in.”
It is in the eye of the beholder!!!!
I and many here do not see that!!!!!!
But, you are entitled to your opinion.
In this whole Mo saga, it is Mo who has his foot in the mouth!!!!
Pepper,
HaHa. A Silver Horseshoe.
Mo is pulling a Paulie Cicero from Goodfellas…
“Now the Yanks got Mo as a closer…
One run lead in the 9th, they go to Mo. Trouble with Farnsworth in the 8th? They can go to Mo. Two out saves, back-to-back nights in the playoffs, they can go to Mo…
But now the Yank’s gotta come up with Mo’s money every year no matter what. I’m 38? Funk you, pay me. Oh, no other team will pay as much? Funk you, pay me. 4 year deals for an aging closer are crazy? Funk you, pay me.
Hey Mel,
You ready for my Celtics to take your Lakers to school? Just kidding…hope you are having a good day.
Uhh….Read my 1:09 pm post. Just because I think the guy’s uncouth doesn’t mean I don’t like him or his moves.
“But seriously, you can’t tell me the Washington Nationals wouldn’t put Karstens into their rotation right now.”
Given that Tim Redding got 15 starts for them last year, I figure you’re right:-)
And, given their favorable draft position for the last bunch of years, they must have some position players in A+ and AA that would be interesting. I’d flip Rasner or Karstens for a good AA catching prospect.
ray,
HaHa. So jealous of the Celtics. Better watch those minutes, though. Just like Kobe, Garnett’s got alot of mileage.
ray,
BTW, I am a Patriots fan. So I’m not a total loser in your book, am I?
seeing how the nationals put rasner on waivers i doubt they would trade for him … no way karstens is going to bring back a good prospect let alone a catching prospect, which is one of the most rare prospects in baseball. plus the yanks have 2 or 3 catching prospects but they are all in low A ball.
Yanks just signed Molina….sweet.
mel,
You are cool and in no way a loser in my book no matter what teams you cheer for!
“no way karstens is going to bring back a good prospect”
So, a pitcher that could step into their rotation now and eat innings for several years on the cheap isn’t going to be worth a good prospect? I doubt that. I didn’t say a blue-chipper, I said a good prospect.
Anyone know what the big announcement is on Mike and the Mad Puppy? Did YES get rid of their contract? Are they switching to SNY where they should be?
Keep Karstens, dump Mussina.
John Donnovan’s Winners and Losers of the Arod deal
A healthy Karstens will compete this spring training as a 5th starter/long relief man. Given a choice, his stuff is more trustworthy than Mussina’s at this point.
Rasner is in a similar mode as Karstens.
Question – if we don’t want Karstens… why would anyone else? He’s barely a 6th starter on anyone’s team.
Ray,
Haha. Looks to be a good year for Boston in all the sports. Well, the ones that count!
“Given a choice, his stuff is more trustworthy than Mussina’s at this point.”
No, it’s not. He has no stuff. He’s Moose minus the experience.
The Washington Nationals would probably love to have Darrell Rasner back in their system….The Yankees picked him up on waivers from them on 2-10-06…lets try and get some young position players for some of theese “extra” pitchers:::Wright,Clippard,Karstens,Rasner,Bruney,Ramirez,Beam,DeSalvo…That way we can protect some of the minor leaguers that need protecting before the Rule 5 draft in early December.
Yankees have 22 pitchers currently on their 40Man Roster..that doesnt include Rivera,Pettitte,Viz.
Two spots that are being taken up are Brackett and Miranda.
karsten is pitching agaisnt korea ? and you think he can fit into a MLB rotation? come on. maybe, just maybe in the NL he can fit into the back end of a rotation but he is a classic example of a 4A player, dominates minor leaguers and gets dominated by major leaguers, he might be able to bring back a veteran reliever or someone else who a team is trying to dump, (just like how the yanks got molina last year) but IMO there are tons of karsten type pitchers in the minors, hell we have a few of them, (rasner, wright, desalvo) why would anyone give up anyone worth while for him?
i think that the nationals will be a very good team soon enough and will be perenial contender once they built their new stadium and start cashing in on that market.
Karsten’s shutdown Korea so let’s trade him for Santana right up.
It really depends on who Korea has, they did well in the World Baseball Classic 2 years ago.
But his performance in Taiwan is besides the point.
We’ve seen him for 2 years now. That’s what many naysayers are basing their opinions on.
Just thank the Good Lord that Karstens and Rasner are not our 2 best pitching prospects.
Jennifer
The announcement is to be made at 300PM.
Mo deserves whatever he wants. He’s the one reliever whose arm Torre couldn’t destroy, try as he might.
Can anyone tell me how this world cup differs from the world baseball classic? Clearly, the stars are not playing. Is it only for young players or something?
Thanks man!!
To all those ready to throw Moose out and replace him with Jeff, lets not forget that Igawa was the strike out leader in Japan! I am very happy that Jeff is successful, but lets be real he isn’t a major league starter.
If I’m the Phillies or the Mets or the Sox I offer 4 yrs to Mo right now.
And young pitchers can’t take a leap and put it all together??
I’d be wary about giving up on Karstens even if hes a #5 starter.
i have nothing against karstens, but with our pitching depth in the minor leagues i just don’t see him having a future with the yankees. this year he could be an emergency spot starter in AAA or maybe the long man in the bullpen but after next year the yankees have too many pitchers (which is a good thing) that are far superior to him.
but rasner, desalvo and karstens are not going to get much back in a trade.
Anyone hear anything more about a possible trade of Farnsworth to the Orioles?And if so who do you think they could get for him?Kevin Millar?Or one of the 10 relief pitchers they signed last winter?
I can just see Farnsy giving up HRS evry night in that small ballpark…oh wait that right,he doesnt pitch back to back games…my bad!
jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge
November 16th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Anyone know what the big announcement is on Mike and the Mad Puppy? Did YES get rid of their contract? Are they switching to SNY where they should be?
Why should they be on SNY? Considering Mike a huge Yankee fan and Dog hates the Mets.
Yea, it makes total sense!
Moron.
Dear yanks61
‘Joe Torre was the right manager at the right time, to use probably a very inappropriate analogy, just as Winston Churchill was the right PM for his time. Neither were perfect personalities with solutions for every period of time, only that their leadership styles the perfit fit for their time. Their time, in each case, came and went.’
So….Joe Torre was defeated in the 1945 General Election? That makes Joe Giradi = Clement Attlee?
Good grief!
John all the teams you mentioned have a closer. How do you think Wagner would take to being demoted. It is not realistic. This is a staring contest, one which Mo will lose. He is insane if he thinks the Yankees will give him 4 years.
I am not going to get into it with you Eric you are a very vicious and nasty person. All you do is come on here and rip everything everyone says. I wish there was a way to ignore your idiotic posting since they never say anything of substance.
i like Karstens. he works fast, and pounds the strike zone.
he never seemed right after he came back from that broken leg, but i would guess that he sets up as the best candidate to be the long man our of the pen that the Yankees didnt have last season.
“If I’m the Phillies or the Mets or the Sox I offer 4 yrs to Mo right now.”
at $15M/year?
Trading away the “extra” pitchers doesnt mean the Yankees would seek a AA prospect or from AAA.Im thinking of two things: 1)clearing a roster spot for Marquez,or Jones,or Horne,McCutchen,McCallister,Claggett.
2)getting a young low A/short season A firstbaseman,or Outfielder.If he pans out in 3-4 yrs,then great.
My no means should CashMoney give them away.
Eric,
Do you really think TV deals are made by determining the fan interests of the hosts.
I wouldn’t be calling anyone a “moron” (which shouldn’t be done in this blog anyway) if that’s how you think deals are made in the TV/Radio business.
Eric – you’re kidding right?
What on earth did Jennifer said that warrants her to be called a “moron”?? She was simply asking a question that most of us are curious about!
SAY not said
jennifer-
Best just to ignore it and take the high road- people who are nasty to others on a sports blog are not even worth commenting about…..
Karstens may be teamed up with Igawa to form a righty/lefty long relief combination. I’m really not sure what will happen to Igawa. Maybe, just maybe a year of seeing Major League hitters has given him an indication of the adjustments that he needs to make. Working with a new pitching coach could also help him. Or maybe he does get traded to someone like the Padres. His value is currently too low to get anything in return in a trade. He will probably have to start out with the Yankees next year and perform well to get his value up.
Folks, relax about Mo. That deal will get done.
I don’t think he is going to get a 4th year. He will be back with the Yankees.
If Hank Steinbrenner can out-Boras Scott Boras, I don’t think its going to be a problem dealing with Mo.
ML … don’t quote me on this but i believe up until a few years ago it was strictly for amatuer players. just recently they started to allow minor league players to participate but MLB are not allowed in the world cup BUT they are allowed in the world baseball classic. two different entities
Phillies just got Brad Lidge and resigned JC Romero,and have Tom Gordon.
Mets have Wagner
Redsux have John Lithgow lookalike
Dodgers aint paying that money…besides how would Mo check on his restaurant from L.A.
I m not worried about MO just yet..he should come around,he is stil ticked from ST.
The Chicago Cubs have a need for an established closer…and they have the cash to afford a 4 year/$55-$58 Million dollar investment in Mo Rivera.
Its questionable whether or not Mo is “insulted” enough to leave his home and business interests in New York for an extra year and a few Million more.
Perhaps Cashman can add a player option for a 4th year – if he meets certain performance incentives during the third year of the contract.
Folks, if Karstens and/or Rasner has a good spring, some NL team that has an injury is going to come knocking looking for someone that can step in right now and hold down a rotation slot. Or, some team that discovers their top prospect needs a few more months before he’s ready to pitch every fifth day in the majors. I’m not saying they’ll come offering the moon, but they’ll come kick the tires and offer something decent. A kid who’s real far away but has a lot of upside, or a kid with some injury questions but a lot of upside, or a kid who’s closer to the majors but with less upside, something like that. Or, perhaps a veteran reliever with one year on his deal or something.
SJ ok I’ll try to relax, I hope you’re right about Mo but I fear he’s lost his mind. He better signs in the next 24 hours or I’ll have to breathe with a paper bag.
“Karstens may be teamed up with Igawa to form a righty/lefty long relief combination.”
There is absolutely no reason for a righty/lefty long relief combination. I wouldn’t even trust Karstens to be a spot starter.
Listening to Mike & Mad Dog. They’re repeating what Kimberly Bell said. But I got to ask you guys, would you stand in front of the mirror and tell your mistress that your testes were shrinking?
I’m 95% sure that I could hit a home run off Jeff Karstens.
“The Chicago Cubs have a need for an established closer…and they have the cash to afford a 4 year/$55-$58 Million dollar investment in Mo Rivera.”
They’re not throwing that money around with their ownership situation unsettled right now.
hank is paying full price for everything. what player is signing for under market contracts? the red sox have beckett for 10 million a year and ortiz under market value. who have the yankees signed for under market deals?
i still think hank is a jackass whose father gave him everything he has . that said i’m happy he’s spending a lot of money to sign arod, posada, and hopefully rivera. i’d like him even less if he was being stingy with the yankees money.
how anyone is thinking hank is making anyone blink is a joke. posada got an extremely lucrative long term contract. arod was on an 81 million dollar contract and ended up with 280 million. rivera is going to get at least 45 million for three years.
i think as long as hank gets to huff and puff and look tough he doesn’t care how much he spends as long as it’s spun that he’s tough.
arod apologized for opting out and got what he wanted in the first place.
where do i sign up for apologizing to hank?
i’m actually fine with hank overpaying for key players. i think it’s a good deal for everyone. the yankees have so much coming off the books in the next few years, they are in good shape to overpay for arod,posada and rivera and insure that they have a good team in 2008 and beyond while the younger and cheaper players are blended in.
jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge
November 16th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Anyone know what the big announcement is on Mike and the Mad Puppy? Did YES get rid of their contract? Are they switching to SNY where they should be?
Why should they be on SNY? Considering Mike a huge Yankee fan and Dog hates the Mets.
Yea, it makes total sense!
Moron.
Erik,
Why the nastiness? So you have a good argument. Be happy that you got it right and point out why you’re right to whoever makes the mistake. We’re all Yankee fans here and Jennifer is one of the best and nicest Yankee fans. Can’t we keep the remarks civil?
Did Mike and the Mad Dog, say it was a “huge announcenment”? If they really had that big of a scope why would they wait till 3 to say it?
Hugh Stacks,
So you listen to their show and their ratings go up?
randy l.
Now, please don’t get offended. I really enjoy what you write, but it takes some work to read your posts. The lower case is good, but have you thought about breaking up your paragraphs? Sorry, old people eyes here.
NYY
November 16th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
Karsten’s shutdown Korea so let’s trade him for Santana right up.
I was up all night working on this trade scenario. NYY – you beat me to it. I think the deal could be done before thanksgiving.
Hi Ross,
“So….Joe Torre was defeated in the 1945 General Election? That makes Joe Giradi = Clement Attlee?
Good grief!” – Ross
I said it was probably a bad analogy, but I was hoping that everyone would get the drift! Anyway, we are suppose to stay away from politics here (even if it’s more history than politics), so I won’t get into some of Winnie’s own failures. Just to add that Giradi came by his office by appointment, not by democratic election (well, unless you call the Yankee brain trust an electorate!)In any case, the Yankee Republic goes in to greater glory and is now, by Hank’s own words, the “Yankee Universe!”
yanks61
November 16th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
jennifer- Hip Hip Jorge
November 16th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Anyone know what the big announcement is on Mike and the Mad Puppy? Did YES get rid of their contract? Are they switching to SNY where they should be?
Why should they be on SNY? Considering Mike a huge Yankee fan and Dog hates the Mets.
Yea, it makes total sense!
Moron.
Erik,
Why the nastiness? So you have a good argument. Be happy that you got it right and point out why you’re right to whoever makes the mistake. We’re all Yankee fans here and Jennifer is one of the best and nicest Yankee fans. Can’t we keep the remarks civil?
The name is Eric. Get it right before you bash me, sister.
If someone can’t take a retort to their obvious unintelligent comment they shouldn’t be posting here.
B- I just meant that the Yankees will have several pitchers to choose from when picking a spot starter/long reliever. It is a bit important for them to choose the right one with Hughes and Chamberlain (probably) on innings caps. You said that you could hit a home run off of Karstens, what about Igawa? Everybody in the league does!
My guess is that YES has agreed to keep carrying them…but we will hear in 1/2 hour.
“Ya gotta give alotta credit to our fans there Mikey,hanging in there for us”
“Yeah Dog”
Thanks everyone!!
I think Eric continues to show his true colors. That is all I will say on him.
Joba up for the cover of NEXT on espn. Vote if you want here:
http://www.espn.go.com/mag/articles/NEXT_starting_5/joba_chamberlain.html
UtilityMan
You are probably correct, someone said they are now using HD cameras, maybe Yes extended them? I’m not even sure when their contract is up.
Yeah, I can see the Phillies not wanting Mo because they got Tom Gordon and Brad Lidge and JC Romero.
LOL.
Where has Hank been all theese yrs???
He has some great quotes lately!!!
I just read what he said about the Rivera offer.
If someone can’t take a retort to their obvious unintelligent comment they shouldn’t be posting here.
Good advise. Try following it.
I think we can all agree that Mo’s offers on the open market will not approach what the Yankees offered him. But the question is would he accept less to stick it to the Yankees?
Hey jenny, lets hug it out before your lame fan club starts trying to hang people from yard arms.
I think your comments are moronic but I’ll never say don’t post them.
Toodles, sweetie.
“They’re not throwing that money around with their ownership situation unsettled right now.”
this is not so true. Obviously they wont tie themselves to a HUGE contrac. But the cubs will sign people, just because the ownership is up in the air, that doesnt mean they are not gonna sign people.
The cubs didnt sign Arod because they have a very good 3rd baseman.
I dont know if the cubs will sign/want to sign mariano, but they are gonna spend money if something comes up…
“someone said they are now using HD cameras”
like their not ugly enough without HD?
Please no!
Crappy relievers are getting 10 mill.
You don’t think some team that thinks there a bullpen arm away from winning something won’t just throw 4 years at Mo???
Hellllooo Omar Minaya.
Some people just dont get it.Ya try and spell it out for them, and they just dont get it.
In todays market 4 years is short. Even for a pitcher.
JC Romero just got 3 years and hes been cut twice in a year!!!
Don’t assume what teams will do especially regarding the best reliever ever.
agreed Migames, re: Mo/Arod/signings…
People are off their rockers if they think teams weren’t calling Mo six seconds after they found out he was pissed at the Yanks.
is Stephen A. Smith the off his rocker or what, I understand that Bonds is being targeted but he misses the point BONDS DID IT !!!
IT WAS HIM WHO CHOSE STEROIDS
IT WAS HIM WHO LIED TO THE JURY TO STAY IN BASEBALL
IT WAS HIS DECISION TO GET INTO THIS GOD DAMN MESS
we have many drug dealers in the world some get caught, some don’t , BONDS GOT CAUGHT !! HE DID IT !! IF HE DIDN’T DO IT, HE WOULDN’T BE IN THIS MESS !!!!!!!
If the stories about MLB scolding the Steinbrenners is true, then the only one who thinks that the offer on the table is unreasonable is Mo. It’s not like the Yankees care what MLB says, but that per annual on that offer is very generous.
Gordon-Lidge-Rivera
Philly would be the team to beat in the NL by far even with average SP.
Heilman-Wagner-Rivera
Same for the Mets.
Broxton-Saito-Rivera
Same for Dodgers.
JC Romero just got an awful 3 year deal, but the total $$ in that commitment is still less than what MO is asking for a single season.
i dont care if the cubs need a closer, they arent signing MO at $15 million per.
They HAD HD cameras for about a week or 2, but they do not use them anymore, why? Im not sure. If this was as big as they say it is they would have announced it when the show started so they are guaranteed to get credit for the scoop. Why would they risk waiting 2 hours only to have some other news source come up with the same story before them?
I just want Mo to sign…
WHo cares if Bonds did it?
Why is the government going after users?
They wasted years and millions targeting a drug user. Do you not see the folly in that?
Apparently Erik/Eric/Erica, there have been other posts who besides mine that have told you more or less the same thing. There’s no reason for the nastiness. So you’ve got a an IQ of 85, you don’t have to announce it to the whole world sweetheart.
Now I’m off for the night (it’s getting late here in Europe) and I will happily relinquish the job of squashing your ego to others. You, sister, don’t get to decide on this or any other blog what is/isn’t intelligent because you, yourself, don’t have the brains to decide.
“Obviously they wont tie themselves to a HUGE contrac. But the cubs will sign people, just because the ownership is up in the air, that doesnt mean they are not gonna sign people.”
4/60 is a huge contract for a 38 year old reliever.
“You don’t think some team that thinks there a bullpen arm away from winning something won’t just throw 4 years at Mo???
Hellllooo Omar Minaya.”
I think that Minaya is smart enough to know that he’s still a starter or two away. Especially since he’s said as much.
“In todays market 4 years is short. Even for a pitcher.”
Not for someone who’s 38.
...with the Yankees.
Say a team offers Mo 50 mil for 5 yrs.
You really think these high revenue teams care about money?
The Mets gave Scott Shoenweiss 3 years.
Mota 2 years coming off a 50 game suspension!
If Rivera can get a team over the top isn’t he worth the years and 12 mill?
The ultimatum to Mo may really cost them resigning him.
yanks61- That is classic!
Why is the government going after users?
They wasted years and millions targeting a drug user. Do you not see the folly in that?
if he doesn’t do it this isn’t even a discussion, just cause a man robs a store do you do it too ?, if your caught no matter what shame on you.
Let’s postulate the following:
1. The Yankees made a very generous offer
2. Mo wants the Yankees to show some love
3. Other teams would be in the market for his services
4. He would get less from any other team
5. Mo has the you know whats to walk away
The question remains, if Mo walks away from 3/45 would you be mad at the Yankees? Or irritated at Mo?
yanks61
November 16th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Apparently Erik/Eric/Erica, there have been other posts who besides mine that have told you more or less the same thing. There’s no reason for the nastiness. So you’ve got a an IQ of 85, you don’t have to announce it to the whole world sweetheart.
You can call me girls names all you want. I won’t cry about you trashing me like some people. And the Iq is 86. Not 85.
If you can’t take the heat, don’t post your opinions.
Please sign with another team, Mo.
Armed robbery is a touch different than being a drug user that is only harming themselves.
You don’t see the gov’t and police target casual drug users do you???
Even comparing it to armed robbery is nonsense.
i’m sorry, but heilman-wagner-mo hardly seals anything up for the mets. the mets need to spend $15 million on a SP, not a 38 year old relief pitcher.
John from Long Island:
But all those teams have OTHER needs. And they’re not going to commit 13-15 mil per for four years to a 38 year old pitcher, no matter how good.
The Dodgers need a big bat and some starting pitching. The Phillies need a decent starter (even with Myers going back to the rotation), and to stabilize 3B.
Aaaaand the Mets need one or two starters as well.
Dude, guys, am I the only one thinking that Mo wants the four years so he could pitch at 42 because he is 42?
And I like Mo too much to be objective about it, so I’m going to say I just want him to sign.
You’re all making a terrible assumption if you think Mo can’t get 14 million from another team.
Wagner can only pitch in the 9th. He falls apart in the 8th and non-save situations.
The only way that Mo could possibly go to the Cubs would be if Mark Cuban could buy them. I definitely don’t think that will happen. Although if Cuban did get the team, I’m sure that he would offer Mo a monster three-year deal, even more than what the Yankees offered him.
Let MO walk, we can use the draft picks.
How do you know they won’t committ money to the BEST CLOSER EVER? Who shows no signs of slowing down, mind you.
You don’t think the Sox wouldnt want to put him in the pen with Papelbon and Okajima?
They don’t have 50 mill to play with???
The Mets aren’t flush with cash?
Keep in mind isn’t it better to spend 14 on Mo than 12 on Carlos Silva/Kyle Lohse??
“If you can’t take the heat, don’t post your opinions.”
The problem with you is that you don’t trash opinions, you trash the opinion holder, and there’s no reason for that. It’s juvenile and makes people give less credence to what you have to say. It makes it seem like you’re not here to have a discussion, you’re here to take anger out on other people anonymously over the internet.
Yeah, it would be great for the Mets to spend 15 mill on fifth starters.
That’s the ticket!
Let Mo go to the Mets… it would save them the trouble of changing the CD on the bullpen intros.
Don’t post your opinion, whoszat, if you can’t take the replies.
Pretty simple.
“Crappy relievers are getting 10 mill.”
name one.
How crazy would this scoop be for Mike and MadDog, Arod was one of the 11 free agents notified that they were on the mitchell report? Talk about a horrible day to be a baseball and Yankees fan.
I’m sure you would all be saying ‘thanks for the draft picks” the moment Kyle Farnsworth blows his 2nd straight save.
“Keep in mind isn’t it better to spend 14 on Mo than 12 on Carlos Silva/Kyle Lohse??”
Not if you need a starter it’s not. I mean…not Lohse, but Silva. It’d be overpaying, but if you need a starter, signing a closer – no matter how good – isn’t going to help you.
And I didn’t say no one would give Mo 14 mil. I said no one would give him 55-60 over four years.
“The lower case is good, but have you thought about breaking up your paragraphs?”
mel:
if you think it’s hard reading them ,think how i feel writing them. constructive criticism is always welcome.
how’s that?
whozat , post away, the idea of a blog is for any one to respond w/ ideas, it is a good thind people don’t post everytime they disagree with some one ore they would ned a bigger server, .... again
It is dumber than dirt to spend 10 mill on 5th starters.
You don’t overpay for below average work.
70 elite innings from Mo is alittle better than 200 subpar innings from a Silva.
Nice…can you say ‘tradebait’? I hope all 29 other teams were watching.
“Don’t post your opinion, whoszat, if you can’t take the replies.”
Replies are fine. It’s the insults that are totally pointless, except that it makes you feel better because you get to call someone names without fear of reprisal.
hmmm
November 16th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
“Crappy relievers are getting 10 mill.â€
name one.
If you don’t think Cordero is going to get 10 to close in this market you are nutty.
Hugh Stacks – They would have led the show with that story, no way would they keep that under their hats for 2 hours! I bet it is a whole lot of build up for thing!
He (won’t type his name anymore) Just doesn’t get it. You can disagree with what someone posts, but there is no need to attack them. I guess this is how he gets out his frustrations.
Back to my original point, I really just want to trade Karstens for the broken down body of Nick Johnson.
Then we can dress Nick up like the Babe and have him walk around the stadium taking pictures with fans if he’s injured.
Maybe we can even get rid of the pie plate guy (I know his name, but I refuse to admit it) in the deal.
Any parent letting their child touch that disgusting spoon he carries around with their bare hands deserves to be brought up on neglect charges.
I’m thinking of following him around the stadium next season with a giant vat of Purel.
“whozat , post away, the idea of a blog is for any one to respond w/ ideas”
Oh, I’m not about to let one aggressive meat head stop me from posting.
Yes, it is about ideas. It’s not about name-calling. I figured we were done with that when we all left the playgound, but I guess some of us haven’t. Pity.
“70 elite innings from Mo is alittle better than 200 subpar innings from a Silva.”
Not if you don’t have someone else to pitch the 200 innings it’s not.
I can take what you or anyone else throws out there whozat. I’ve been called a girl here a few times in the past half hour. I laugh at it. I called jennifer moronic. I never name called her. Her comment was moronic. If she can’t take it or you can’t or her sensitive posse, you shouldn’t be throwing your opinions out in a free country.
If you’re so sensitive you shouldn’t be posting.
“name one.
If you don’t think Cordero is going to get 10 to close in this market you are nutty.”
Cordero is a crappy reliever? Since when? He’s no mo, but he’s decent.
Stop whining about being told your thought was stupid. You sound like 4 year olds.
G. Love – Freedy Sezs?
I think he tries to sell the signs, not sure if anyone actually buys them though.
“moron” – is about the poster
“that comment was moronic” – is about the opinion
your post:
Why should they be on SNY? Considering Mike a huge Yankee fan and Dog hates the Mets.
Yea, it makes total sense!
Moron.
Nice changing your name, like we can see right through that.
Heyamn the big announcement, knew it was a huge build up for nothing. Big deal his contract ran out for espn and now wfan picked it up.
Oh Boy BIG Announcement!!!!
Cordero is good?
How many playoff saves does he have?
How were his home/road splits the past 2 years?
Really? That’s good now?
I forgot that Milwaukee is such a big market and that team didn’t blow a big early lead this yr mostly due to their bullpen.
what was the scoop?
randy l.,
lol.
i meant put a space in between the paragraphs.
but that’s o.k.
it’s unique.
sincerely,
mel
p.s. the big news is jon heyman? what a letdown
I told you, jenny. Lets hug it out before your Nazi posse starts killing people. You may be a moron but I love you, girl.
errr..? what I miss ?
“Not if you don’t have someone else to pitch the 200 innings it’s not.”
It’s always good policy to over pay someone because they can throw 200 innings. No matter how bad they are.
Thank God you aren’t the Yankee GM.
Wow Im so happy i waited 40 minutes to hear that Jon Heyman will be on twice a week.
Does anyone else want to tear the hair out of their head when they are watching YES and you can hear people hitting his pie plate through the broadcast?
It’s like a dagger through my spine.
Sooner or later, he and I are going to come to blows. It’s my destiny.
What a let down.. now we have to hear one of boras’s slaves.
“you shouldn’t be throwing your opinions out in a free country.”
So, like I said, your point is that no one should talk unless they’re willing to be called names.
Interpreting Francesa’s frequent whining about everything the Yankees do as Met-fandom is just misinformed. Considering the offering of an opinion as an invitation to mockery is actually stupid.
The Yanks give Mo a 4th yr as a performance based vesting option.
Why not?
I think he’s earned it.
I apologize jenny. Whozat is a bigger moron than you are.
My sweetest sorry’s me lady.
Heyman on twice a week?
You think Michael Kay is happy??
You think the Yanks would guarantee that 4th yr if Boston comes a calling like they should????
We tweek them with Lowell. They do it right back.
I wonder if we’ll be able to see Boras operating Heyman like a ventriloquist’s dummy on the Mike and the Mad Dog YES broadcasts twice a week.
Just like the scene with Richard Gere in Chicago, but without all the dancing men and Christine Baranski.
The Bonds story is not about the Government going after casual users.
The Government arrests users all the time in order to trade up to the dealers. Because the users buy from the dealers they have important evidence to give against the dealers. The government wants to take out the guys making money from selling the illegal substances, not the casual user. Proof: Bonds was offered immunity from prosecution in exchange for truthful testimony about his use of steroids and BALCO. But he didn’t uphold his end of the bargain. The Government was going to let Bonds walk on the steroids charges if he just told the truth. But Bonds took the deal and lied.
So, this is a story about lying under oath, not about the government picking on millionaire steroid users.
Moronic is anyone that says 5th starters are worth 10 million per year.
Buyer beware on Silva, Lohse, etc.
I guess no one learns from Pavano, Clement, etc.
John Long Island
November 16th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
How do you know they won’t committ money to the BEST CLOSER EVER? Who shows no signs of slowing down, mind you.
You don’t think the Sox wouldnt want to put him in the pen with Papelbon and Okajima?
John,
The Sox have demonstrated fairly consistently that they will not give long term contracts to older players. That was the issue with Damon and is the issue right now with Mike Lowell. I am not the type of Sox that just automatically trashes Yankees players. I agree that Mo has been the dominant closer in baseball for a long time. But the fact still remains that he is 38 and even though he is still a very good closer he is not the best. The Yankee offer to Mo I believe is very fair and I don’t think there are other teams out there that will make better offers.
i have a solution for the stalemate between hank and mo.
since he liked it so much when arod apologized to him for opting out, all hank has to do ,in a reversal, is apologize to mo for calling him old.
now that he has people convinced he’s tough, it would show his sensitive side. mo would sign and hank would not only be tough. he’d be sensitive too.
what a guy. if hank does that, i’ll be impressed.
“Sooner or later, he and I are going to come to blows. It’s my destiny.”
G.Love: He’s not worth it, I tell ya.
Heyman said that A-Rod will probably have incentives being paid to him when he gets to 714, 755, Bonds’ total and breaking Bonds’ total or something along those lines. How long does it take A-Rod to hit 714 once he has 713? 715 once he has 714? Ans so on? He seemed to ress trying to get 500.
Good God Eric, just shup up already. You’re not impressing anyone with your “tough guy on the internet” posturing.
“Moron”, “siter”, “if you can’t take the heat”... dude, if you’re not a 14-yr-old, then you’re an adult with the maturity level of one.
jennifer is a very well respected member of this blog, which is something you have quite an uphill climb of becoming if you continue to take pride in being a brash jackass.
Eric
November 16th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
I told you, jenny. Lets hug it out before your Nazi posse starts killing people. You may be a moron but I love you, girl.
Eric
November 16th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
I apologize jenny. Whozat is a bigger moron than you are.
My sweetest sorry’s me lady.
right on the money no name calling what so ever!!
“How many playoff saves does he have?”
he’s got 0…in 0 opportunities. What’s your point?
“How were his home/road splits the past 2 years?”
What does that have to do with anything? Milwaukee’s not a noted pitcher’s park like Petco. The splits are a product of a couple of bad outings that happened to be on the road. Mo had those too. It happens.
He was really good in Texas (a hitter’s park) until last year, and has succeeded in the NL since being traded. He’s all of 32. Given inflation in contracts since Wagner signed, I figure he’ll get a similar deal to that.
The government does not target users.
They don’t arrest users to get info about dealers.
They go after dealers to get info about bigger dealers.
Users cannot help a case in any way. They can’t lead to bigger fish. They are a nuisance and truth be told no cop looks to arrest users and prosecturs never prosecute a casual user.
It is a waste of time targeting users. This Bonds thing is a witch hunt. And a waste of our money.
NDYank,
That chase for #500 was brutal.
Contrary to some of the schmoes on ESPN TV, Heyman says that Santana is “out there” and on the block right now. Most guys on ESPN are saying that they’ll hold him until at least the July 31st trading dedline. If the Yanks “wow” the Twins now they might be able to get him this offseason.
Cordero was soooo good in texas he lost his closer job and they traded him.
Check out the stats before you post.
Even comparing him to Mo is utter stupidity.
“Moronic is anyone that says 5th starters are worth 10 million per year.
Buyer beware on Silva, Lohse, etc.
I guess no one learns from Pavano, Clement, etc.”
Someone who lumps those four pitchers together has NO idea what he’s talking about.
Clement and Pavano were huge injury-related busts.
Lohse has had worse than average ERAs in the NL after washing out in the AL.
Silva was good in 05, bad in 06, and a bit above average this year, all in the AL in a very, very competitive division. And he pitched over 180 innings the last four years, so he’s durable. You think he’s not a number 3 in the NL?
Wowing Minny involves a Cano-Hughes offer.
“They don’t arrest users to get info about dealers.”
yes they do. and don’t ask me how i know.
Eric –
Please take a look at mel and randy l’s posts about writing in paragraphs. That’s how grown-ups with manners and respect talk to each other. Why are you so full of hate???
Silva doesn’t strike anyone out and his WHIP is high.
A waste of money if you sign him to be a 5th starter.
You’re better off letting Humber and Pelfrey do that for 1/10 the price.
But I wouldn’t expect some people to get baseball economics.
I don’t do that trade than. I think Hughes will be a stud, look what he did for us in an elimination game! And Cano continues to improve.
So question for everyone.
Now that we have Arod (and his offense) back in the fold, would you trade Cano for Johan?
I would. Like I’ve said from the get go though, I wouldn’t give them anything else of real value if they want Cano. If he’s in the deal, no Joba, Melky, Hughes or IPK. You get Cano and Chase Wright.
Just imagine a rotation of Johan, Joba, Wang, Hughes, IPK with Mussina and possibly Pettitte in the fold.
I’d go with Betemit at 2b for a season if we didn’t have a better option for Johan.
“Cordero was soooo good in texas he lost his closer job and they traded him.
Check out the stats before you post. ”
I did. Here’s what I said:
“He was really good in Texas (a hitter’s park) until last year, and has succeeded in the NL since being traded. ”
If you’d bothered to check the stats, you’d see it’s true. He was really good until 2006, and has succeeded in the NL since he was traded.
Dee
November 16th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
Eric –
Please take a look at mel and randy l’s posts about writing in paragraphs. That’s how grown-ups with manners and respect talk to each other. Why are you so full of hate???
If you can say it in one sentence, why bother?
But I respect you trying to be Johnny English Teacher here.
if the definition of “out there” was the Yankees went to the Twins and said we’ll give you Cano and Joba right now, of course, for that package, he’d be available.
however, i dont see the Twins moving him right now. I think they’ll talk contract extention up to the last minute before having to choose to trade away the best pitcher in the league voluntarily.
Keep Cano and Hughes. If you build it, Santana will come.
We’ll agree to disagree about how great Cordero is.
If you advocate paying him 10 mill+ that’s terrific.
But you’re the same guy saying pay Silva 12 +mill.
A little off center there. But good luck with that.
“Silva doesn’t strike anyone out and his WHIP is high.”
1.31 isn’t that high. It was 1.14 merely two years ago. But no, he doesn’t strike out a lot of guys.
Anyone signing him looking for an ace is dumb. Someone signing him looking for a middle of the rotation guy will probably get that.
Patterson:
“They are a nuisance and truth be told no cop looks to arrest users and prosecturs never prosecute a casual user…. It is a waste of time targeting users. This Bonds thing is a witch hunt. And a waste of our money.”
Bonds was no ordinary, casual user and we’re not talking about kids sharing a joint in the park after dark. But, you’re entitled to your opinion.
ill a cop arrest someone for a joint? Probably not. It’s an appearance ticket and it gets ajudicated as a dismissal. Small amounts of cocaine? Maybe not, but you’re getting warmer. Crack? Heroin? Ecstacy? It all depends on what’s hot at the moment and who the police are trying to shut down.
You don’t look to arrest users/buyers but you will if you are trying to work your way up.
I just don’t think that the Yankees should trade Cano. He is only going to continue to get better as he matures and begins to reach the prime of his career. It’s not the easiest thing to find an adequate second baseman. Robbie is definitely the best one that the Yankees have had since Chuck Knoblauch- before the throwing problem of course.
Silva is a 5th starter. You can wrap it up any which way you like it but paying 10 mill + for a 5th starter is ridiculously stupid baseball economics.
The value isn’t there.
I might consider just trading Cano and other small pieces, but I don’t think Minni would. H