Yankees add four to 40-man roster
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Got this press release from the Yankees:
The New York Yankees announced today they have signed right-handed pitcher Scott Patterson to a Major League contract and added catcher Francisco Cervelli and right-handed pitchers Jeffrey Marquez and Steven White to the 40-man roster.
Patterson, 28, was 4-2 with two saves and a 1.05 ERA in 44 combined games (three starts) at Double-A Trenton and Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre in 2007. Over 77.1IP, Patterson struck out 92 batters and walked just nine, surrendering only one home run while holding opponents to a .164 batting average (45-for-274). He led all qualifying Trenton relievers in ERA (1.09), strikeouts (91) and opponent’s batting average (.170), helping the Thunder capture the Eastern League title. He was originally signed by the Yankees as a minor league free agent on June 17, 2006, after spending four-and-a-half seasons pitching in independent leagues for Gateway (Ill.) of the Frontier League (2002-05) and Lancaster (Pa.) of the Atlantic League (2005-06).
Cervelli, 21, hit .279 (81-for-290) with 24 doubles, two triples, two home runs and 32 RBI in 89 games with Single-A Tampa in 2007, earning mid- and postseason All-Star honors. Defensively, he led all Florida State League catchers with a 41 percent caught stealing rate (41-for-100) and a .997 fielding percentage (2E, 743TC), having entered the 2007 season rated as the Yankees’ “Best Defensive Catcher†by Baseball America. Over the last two seasons (2006-07), Cervelli batted a combined .289 (123-for-426) with 34 doubles. He was originally signed by the Yankees as a non-drafted free agent on March 1, 2003.
Marquez, 23, was 15-9 with a 3.65 ERA (155.1IP, 166H, 80R, 63ER, 44BB, 94K) in 27 starts with Double-A Trenton in 2007. He led all Yankees farmhands in wins and innings pitched, recording the second-most victories in Trenton franchise history. In his lone postseason start, Marquez tossed 7.0 scoreless innings (4H, 1BB, 3K), earning the first-round series-clinching win vs. Portland in Trenton’s march to the Eastern League Championship. Selected by the Yankees in the first supplemental round (41st overall) of the 2004 First-Year Player Draft, Marquez is 35-32 with a 3.40 ERA in 89 career minor league games (86 starts) over four seasons.
White, 26, was 7-4 with one save and a 3.38 ERA (104IP, 98H, 45R, 39ER, 34BB, 66K) in 18 combined games (17 starts) at Single-A Tampa and Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre in 2007. He also made seven appearances (three starts) for the Peoria Javelinas in the 2007 Arizona Fall League, going 0-1 with a 6.23 ERA (17.1IP, 12ER, 6BB, 11K). In four minor league seasons, White has career record of 28-25 with a 3.64 ERA in 81 games (79 starts). He was selected by the Yankees in the fourth round of the 2003 First-Year Player Draft.
The Yankees roster now stands at 39 players.
Here’s a link to the 40-man roster.
The Yankees also officially announced their coaching staff today. The unofficially announced the coaches back on Nov. 1.
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First comment!
Moves clearly made with the Rule V draft in mind. With one spot left, are there any significant prospects who are Rule V eligible and yet still unprotected?
Any word on if they dropped ‘The Man in the Glass Booth’(Pavano)off the roster yet?
WOW. What an offseason so far. Keeping all the vets like A-Rod, Mo & Po and now adding all of these young blue chippers to the roster. Cash is a genious. What a job he has done rebuilding the farm along with signing the core hall of famers. Looks like a great mix.
These guys have put up some tremendous numbers and should all help the big club next season. Thanks for all of the raw data. Patterson & Marquez especially sound like studs – can’t wait to see them in the spring.
Go Yanks!!
I guess there is some truth to the notion that they won’t announce the signings of ARod, Jorge and Mo until after the rule 5. Then they don’t have to place them on the roster. I guess that’s allowed.
“Any word on if they dropped ‘The Man in the Glass Booth’(Pavano)off the roster yet?”
Nah, he’s got a lot of value as the butt of jokes for the next year.
Pete: Could you outline what are the criteria for someone being at risk in the Rule V draft?
Any truth to the rumor that the Twins have made Santana an offer: http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse.....-an-offer/
Let me say that I don’t think the Twins have made Santana an offer, but I just wondered if anyone else had heard anything?
Life is good.
Patterson looks impressive!
westchester dave. heres how it works…
“Players signed at age 19 or older are exempt from the Rule 5 draft for five years after being drafted (in the amateur draft) or signed by their current organization; players drafted or signed at age 18 or younger are exempt for six years.” – wikipedia
now what i don’t get is why peterson would be eligible, but since he wasn’t drafted i assume that if you are signed as a minor league free agent you must be on the 40 man roster to be protected.
there is also a minor league draft
“Organizations may also draft players from AA or lower to play on their AAA affiliates , and may draft players from A teams or lower to play for their AA affiliates.”
i hope that clears things up
any reason sean henn is still on the 40 man roster??????
I heard at work about the Yankees a few years ago drafting a guy who can pitch with both arms. I know it sounds crazy but I truly heard this. I was also told that there will be a rule in place that he can not change arms in the middle of the count but can change between hitters. Am i getting my leg pulled or is this really true or even possible?
nubie, its true, they drafted him this year but he opted not to sign and return to school.
There has already been a major leaguer who was able to pitch with both arms. He did in fact pitch in a game using both arms, here is the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_A._Harris
Sherri,
try his link for Santana’s news
http://www.startribune.com/507/story/1558537.html
halfway down the page.
NUBIE,
the Yanks drafted a switch-pitcher this year. He did not signed a contract.The rules you read are correct.
Ed, Thanks!
They were telling me at work that he threw about 80ish with his left and had a slider, curve and fastball lefty and a fastball, sinker and cutter or something with his right in the low 90’s. I would think that a pitcher like that would be pretty valuable and wouldnt have to have a relief pitcher enter the game for just one batter. Does this sound like something that will be more of the norm as time goes on or is it a freak of nature type of thing? If he decides to go back to the MLB after school do we have the rights to him?
His name was Pat Venditte. Bummer he went back to school because he could have been an interesting option.
Here’s the article that talked about him going back to school: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08.....ref=slogin
And here is a good story about the way he pitches:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06.....tcher.html
Can anyone tell me what might honestly be the next big move for the Yankees? I have been glued to this blog for the past week or so and have got a lot of great info. I am trying to decipher what is just hopes, what is wishes and what looks like it may be in the works. Any thoughts?
Patterson is 27 pitching in a league where the average age is like 22 or 23. So don’t get too excited about him. He has a good fastball and that is about it. That being said he is like 6′7″ and he throws in a straight over the top motion which makes his fastball look really really fast. Hopefully he can make it to the show and help the Yanks out.
That straight over-the-top is not good for long-term potential, is it? I thought the 10 to 4 o’clock type movement was supposed to be better for shoulders and elbows?
“now what i don’t get is why peterson would be eligible, but since he wasn’t drafted i assume that if you are signed as a minor league free agent you must be on the 40 man roster to be protected.”
He isn’t eligible. He became a free agent and was getting major league offers, so the Yanks had to offer a major league deal in order to keep him.
That doesn’t mean he has to be in the majors, BUT it does mean that he has to be on the 40-man roster. All players on major league deals MUST be on the 40-man. That’s why Juan Miranda is on there, for example.
As for Henn, a player has a certain number of years during which they can be put on the 40-man and then optioned off of it (back to the minors). Last year was Henn’s last season of eligibility for this. In order to take him off the 40-man, he’d have to be exposed to waivers and someone’d take him. If there’s no one else the Yanks care to protect, why not keep him? He’s got solid stuff, if he’d just learn to pitch instead of throw, he could be a useful lefty in the pen.
I think the most important question is why is Carl Pavano still on this team?
Next question is how the heck did the Mets trade Mota for a pretty good catcher?
“That straight over-the-top is not good for long-term potential, is it?”
Middle relievers are generally so inconsistent from year to year, who cares? If we catch lightning in a bottle with him for a season, he can cash in, wear out and be sitting pretty for the rest of his life.
See: Aaron Small.
NUBIE, the kid was(is) Pat Venditte.The Yankees have the rights for one year.
Ed FL:
Thanks.
i didn’t realize patterson was getting other major league offers. thanks for clarifying…
ED FL: i believe the new rules are that if they don’t sign by august 15th. which he didn’t, then they lose rights to him. He wanted to go back to school for another year so the yanks lose out on him unless they draft him again next year.
but i could be wrong.
“Next question is how the heck did the Mets trade Mota for a pretty good catcher?”
Salary dump, maybe? I don’t know the money involved. Also, the Brewers were apparently REALLY unhappy with Estrada. I think he was a disaster behind the plate last season. At least, teams were running on him at will, and his offense wasn’t good enough that that’s ok. He had bone chips removed, so maybe that’ll help. Maybe the Mets got a steal, I dunno.
“i didn’t realize patterson was getting other major league offers. thanks for clarifying…”
At least, that’s what I heard. I can’t cite a reference for that, though. That’s kind of the only explanation that makes any sense.
I read someplace that Pavano is still on the roster because if the Yankees drop him now, insurance doesn’t cover his 2008 salary. However, he (and Brackman) will go on the 60-day DL once the season starts (or is it spring training? I forget).
Pete, can you confirm this?
He had a pretty good avg, I don’t know how to interpret the numbers defense wise.
Anyone know who is left exposed to the draft who we should be concerned about losing?
JRVJ So when can the Yankees official drop Glass Ass?
When is the rule V draft?
Rule V draft was during the winter meetings last year so early December would be my guess.
Is the reason they are going with a 39 man roster now in case the Yankees can pick someone up in the Rule V?
pat good thought.
if you have no free spaces on your 40 man roster you can’t participate. so i’m sure they kept it open just in case someone slips through…
Marcos Vechionacci, Justin Christian, Steven Jackson, and Eric Duncan were left off the list … I can’t imagine anyone actually selecting any of them but you never know.
Okay,
I read how they are putting these guys on the roster because of rule V. Would one of you be willing to take the time to explain me rule V. Also what happens when they kick these cats off the 40 man roster?
“He had a pretty good avg, I don’t know how to interpret the numbers defense wise.”
He had a decent average, but basically no walks or slugging. His OPS was .700. Not too good.
All I know about his D is that he wasn’t throwing out anyone, and a lot of guys were running.
I bet someone bites on Eric Duncan. I still have hope for him so I hope not. He made some strides in the latter part of the season which could portend better things to come.
Some info on the rule V draft
http://emedia.thetimes-tribune.....fault.aspx
they would have to keep eric duncan on the 25 man MLB roster for the entire year … he was barely making it on the AAA roster … ok thats a litte harsh but i think i would rather have josh phelps on the roster … I just can’t see it happening.
Well that is no different than when they had Piazza.
“Marcos Vechionacci, Justin Christian, Steven Jackson, and Eric Duncan were left off the list … I can’t imagine anyone actually selecting any of them but you never know.”
Vechionacci topped out at AA, so it’s not like he’d be taken in the major league portion of the rule 5.
for info, go here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_5_draft
Also, Vecc isn’t eligible.
I had high hopes for Eric, he is a local kid from Jersey. I think he was held back by alot of injuries.
D Ball
Not sure of all the rules. Don’t think the Yankees have been big rule V participants but they did last year with Josh Phelps. I remember with Josh Phelps that the team pays $50,000 for a rule V selection and the player must be left on the major league roster all year or must be offered back to the team they came from for half of that.
Well, I guess I was wrong about vecc’s eligibility. I thought he had five years under the new rules. Maybe that only applies to new draftees.
the Todd, I agree it is unlikely, but why not cut Pavano and protect Duncan? Makes no sense to have Pavano protected unless there is something I am missing.
Reality Check Someone thought it was for insurance purposes.
Jennifer, Eric is still only 23. The other Duncan– Shelley– did not surface at the major league level until he was 27. Keep the faith!
they have his contract insured … so if they cut him the yanks would have to pay 10 million out of their own pockets … i think eventually they will cut him because they still need to add molina, pettitte (hopefully) and maybe a FA relief pitcher. so they will probably have to make several moves. I don’t think duncan is worth cutting players right now, you’d have to be crazy to select him and start him or at least have him on the roster. he hit something around .240 in AAA and his power was nothing to write home about.
“Makes no sense to have Pavano protected unless there is something I am missing.”
Maybe it’s the insurance reason someone speculated about. Or, he _should_ come off the DL late in this season. They could at least get SOMETHING for him if he completes a rehab assignment. I know his very existence annoys some fans, but if they can get ANYTHING for him at this point, it wouldn’t make sense to not keep him. A 40-man roster spot isn’t THAT big a deal, I guess.
Always about the money, I guess, but call me nuts but I think Eric can still make it. Which would make the 10m owed to Pavano chump change.
“so they will probably have to make several moves.”
Can’t they just remove Cervelli et al from the 40-man after the draft is over?
I wonder if this is the end of the road for some people they have lost patience with, like Desalvo, Bruney etc. Those spots will need to go to Posada, Rivera, A-Rod, Molina etc…. So why would they do this? – unless they want to leave the free agents in limbo while they protect these guys during the draft. That’s probably the rationale for not announcing any of these re-signings officially.
reality check you have to look at their 1st base options. they have shelly duncan, betemit (sp?), phillips, giambi, not to mention miranda in AAA, who seems to have passed eric duncan on the depth chart, then u have teixera (sp?) looming possibly on the free agent market next year. I honestly don’t think the yanks think he is that much better than any of their options and would risk losing him this year to the draft.
i think he will make it as well … but it won’t be next year. he is still young so he could turn it around but right now they just don’t have the room and don’t want to risk losing more important players…
whozat. once u are on the 40 man the only way you can come off and return is to clear waivers and return back to your team, much like phillips did last year. cervelli had a good year in high A … young catchers are tough to find. no way he would even make it close through waivers.
i would think about cutting, TJ Beam, Henn and bruney to clear some room.
Well, Juan Miranda has been poor so far versus lefties. If Eric Duncan shows himself to be better than Shelley Duncan vs lefties, maybe that’s a spot for him. Or, maybe he blossoms and then he can be trade bait.
Yeah, he could still make it, but he’s not going to stick on an MLB team for an entire season right now, so who cares if he gets taken in the Rule 5? He’ll be back in the Yanks’ system before the end of the season.
I had forgotten how tall Brackman is – 6′10″! That’s TALL!
“once u are on the 40 man the only way you can come off and return is to clear waivers and return back to your team, much like phillips did last year. cervelli had a good year in high A … young catchers are tough to find. no way he would even make it close through waivers.”
False. Players have three to four option years during which they do not have to be exposed to waivers in order to remove them from the 40-man. Phillips has been out of options for a while, but no one else really wants him. This will be Cervelli’s first option year, if he is removed from the 40-man.
But, yeah, I’d happily cut TJ Beam at this point.
Oh, and they can definitely option Alberto Gonzalez and Bronson Sardinha back to the minors too
ahh. whozat. totally forgot about the options … regardless they still have to make some moves. and in the upcoming years I don’t think it’ll be any easier since they have so many good young arms, and position players in the lower levels … i guess its a good problem to have.
Can I take this offseason opportunity to ask, what is the 40-man roster?
“Players have three to four option years during which they do not have to be exposed to waivers in order to remove them from the 40-man.”
Dammit. Wrong again.
Players who are optioned remain on the 40-man.
I guess you’re right. Those guys ARE on the 40-man unless they can pass through waivers.
Sardinha and Beam can definitely be waived, though. If they get taken, so what.
“ahh. whozat. totally forgot about the options”
As well you should have, because I was wrong:-D
Info about rosters and transactions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.....man_roster
I heart wikipedia
“totally forgot about the options”
As well you should have, because I was wrong about them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.....man_roster
info about transactions and rosters
cc – see link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.....ansactions
er .. ha. i thought i was right, but sometimes the whole option thing gets me. if your’e on the 40 man you stay on there unless you clear waivers. anyway i gotta get outta here the work day is finally over ! … fr everyone who is confused about the the 40 man roster, its kinda confusing, just go to wikepedia. they’ll have the answers
I think its interesting that they put a catcher of decent sounding ability on the 40 man. I guess its to protect him, but could that be also with a trade possibility in mind?
A-Point: I think after they were forced to use Josh Phelps to catch at one point, it would be pretty smart to have a 3rd catcher on the roster.
If I were Andy Phillips, I would start learning how to catch.
Also after the Rule 5 draft players can be put on the 60 day DL which will clear up 40-man roster space.
thanks, Sherri. So the 40-man roster has implications only for the playoffs? When they need to make a call-up, the called-up player doesn’t have to be on the 40-man roster, does he?
knicks ship be sinking
My stepson is at the Garden tonight – Man, the Knicks are bad.
Baseball is by far the best, most interesting sport during and after the season.
Joe from Long Island
November 20th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
If I were Andy Phillips, I would start learning how to catch.
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It would help both team and player if Phillips and Duncan both learned to catch. Duncan’s father was a fine catcher for Oakland in the early 70’s.
Does it really matter who coaches the Knicks? It looks like they’ve given up.
Feinsand reports the Yanks are interested in Linebrink. (3yr $12mil+) – but he’s a type A meaning we’d have to give up the 28th pick… is Linebrink worth our first rounder??
As much as Linebrink is tempting, I’m thinking the Yanks with the way they’ve been drafting in the past few years, that would be the better way to go. Now or the future? Hard to say.
All other sports go horizontal. Baseball goes every which way.
OK, so 39 people. Missing:
A-Rod
Posada
Molina
The Viz (I konw, not signed yet but hopefully)
Mariano
That means four have to come off, right? If Brackman and Pavano go on the DL at the beginning than that’s still two that have to come off.
batty
November 20th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
OK, so 39 people. Missing:
A-Rod
Posada
Molina
The Viz (I konw, not signed yet but hopefully)
Mariano
That means four have to come off, right? If Brackman and Pavano go on the DL at the beginning than that’s still two that have to come off.
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At least 3 of Bruney, Farnsworth, Rasner, Sardinha, Britton, DeSalvo, Wright, Phillips, Henn, or Karstens will go in trades.
At the end of the season, the Yankees had the following players on the 60-day DL: Humberto Sanchez, Darrell Rasner, Andy Phillips, Carl Pavano, and Andrew Brackman.
I’d think all or most could be put back on right after the rule V draft.
Stu H
November 20th, 2007 at 10:23 pm
At the end of the season, the Yankees had the following players on the 60-day DL: Humberto Sanchez, Darrell Rasner, Andy Phillips, Carl Pavano, and Andrew Brackman.
I’d think all or most could be put back on right after the rule V draft.
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They all had to be put back on the 40 man roster today. You can’t carry over any DL lists after the season.
The Red Sux seem to be having some fun:
http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=9562375593
so what does this mean for Carl Pavano? I read this in the Post
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11.....581112.htm
it was expected that he would be released by I havent heard anything. Can you fill us in on his status Peter?