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		<title>By: whozat</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/21/a-few-random-pre-holiday-thoughts/comment-page-6/#comment-201781</link>
		<dc:creator>whozat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but is in his mid 30â€™sâ€¦WHY TRADE PROSPECTS FOR HIM !!!&quot;

Actually, he&#039;s in his late 20s.</description>
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<p>Actually, he&#8217;s in his late 20s.</p>
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		<title>By: whoa</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/21/a-few-random-pre-holiday-thoughts/comment-page-6/#comment-201778</link>
		<dc:creator>whoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the Twins wouldn&#039;t do Santana for Hughes, but it wouldn&#039;t necessarily be even a good trade for the Yankees.

Hughes will likely be at least 80% as good as Santana in 2008; he may well be as good or better thereafter, and he will do it at only a fraction of the cost.

I don&#039;t want to root for a rotisserie team of other teams&#039; stars. I prefer to watch prospects develop and pitch for the Yankees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the Twins wouldn&#8217;t do Santana for Hughes, but it wouldn&#8217;t necessarily be even a good trade for the Yankees.</p>
<p>Hughes will likely be at least 80% as good as Santana in 2008; he may well be as good or better thereafter, and he will do it at only a fraction of the cost.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to root for a rotisserie team of other teams&#8217; stars. I prefer to watch prospects develop and pitch for the Yankees.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Biancalana</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/21/a-few-random-pre-holiday-thoughts/comment-page-5/#comment-201777</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Biancalana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Santana for Hughes straight up would be an incredible deal for the Yankees. There is no way the Twins would ever agree to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Santana for Hughes straight up would be an incredible deal for the Yankees. There is no way the Twins would ever agree to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon (Proud supporter of "ALEX BEING ALEX")</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/21/a-few-random-pre-holiday-thoughts/comment-page-5/#comment-201776</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon (Proud supporter of "ALEX BEING ALEX")</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;EDIT&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;if he&#039;s for the money I say let him go free agency because now I&#039;m hearing 5 yrs. $126 M if that&#039;s the case a 7 yr. contract we&#039;re talking about $180 M plus tax of 40% we&#039;re touching $250 Million for a LH SP who is an ace but is in his mid 30&#039;s...WHY TRADE PROSPECTS FOR HIM !!!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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<p><i>if he&#8217;s for the money I say let him go free agency because now I&#8217;m hearing 5 yrs. $126 M if that&#8217;s the case a 7 yr. contract we&#8217;re talking about $180 M plus tax of 40% we&#8217;re touching $250 Million for a LH SP who is an ace but is in his mid 30&#8242;s&#8230;WHY TRADE PROSPECTS FOR HIM !!!</i></p>
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		<title>By: Brandon (Proud supporter of "ALEX BEING ALEX")</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/21/a-few-random-pre-holiday-thoughts/comment-page-5/#comment-201775</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon (Proud supporter of "ALEX BEING ALEX")</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;if he&#039;s for the I say let him go free agency because no I&#039;m hearing 5 yrs. 126 M if that&#039;s the case a 7 yr. contract we&#039;re talking about $ 180 M plus tax of 40% we&#039;re touching $250 Million for a LH SP who is an ace but isin his mid 30&#039;s...WHY TRADE PROSPECTS !!!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>if he&#8217;s for the I say let him go free agency because no I&#8217;m hearing 5 yrs. 126 M if that&#8217;s the case a 7 yr. contract we&#8217;re talking about $ 180 M plus tax of 40% we&#8217;re touching $250 Million for a LH SP who is an ace but isin his mid 30&#8242;s&#8230;WHY TRADE PROSPECTS !!!</i></p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Biancalana</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/21/a-few-random-pre-holiday-thoughts/comment-page-5/#comment-201774</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Biancalana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the Sox getting him, I definitely could see the Mets going all out to get him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the Sox getting him, I definitely could see the Mets going all out to get him.</p>
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		<title>By: whoa</title>
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		<dc:creator>whoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want Santana. He had a terrible 2nd half of 2007, and he needs to prove that it wasn&#039;t the beginning of a decline. So I wouldn&#039;t trade Hughes for Santana even up.

The only trade I would do is Kennedy (or Wang)/Melky/Tabata.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want Santana. He had a terrible 2nd half of 2007, and he needs to prove that it wasn&#8217;t the beginning of a decline. So I wouldn&#8217;t trade Hughes for Santana even up.</p>
<p>The only trade I would do is Kennedy (or Wang)/Melky/Tabata.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Biancalana</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/21/a-few-random-pre-holiday-thoughts/comment-page-5/#comment-201772</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Biancalana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Hughes/A Jax &amp; Melky plus a lower level prospect for Johan + a 72 window to give him an extension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Hughes/A Jax &amp; Melky plus a lower level prospect for Johan + a 72 window to give him an extension.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Biancalana</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/11/21/a-few-random-pre-holiday-thoughts/comment-page-5/#comment-201771</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddy Biancalana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is from www.MLBTraderumors.com on Johan, he may want $126 over 5 years, which obviously means he will be traded if that&#039;s the case.

Santana Counters Twins&#039; Offer

Sid Hartman was correct - Joe Christensen confirms today that the Twins did offer Johan Santana a five-year, $93MM deal (18.6MM annually).  The pact was designed to top Carlos Zambrano&#039;s by $1.5MM.  Problem is that Santana isn&#039;t 1.6% better than Zambrano.  He&#039;s a lot better than Z. 

Santana countered by asking for $126MM, according to Christensen.  His article implies that Santana asked for seven years in the counterproposal, since Santana&#039;s agent cited Barry Zito&#039;s deal and the dollar amount is the same.  The Twins balked at the counteroffer and expect to trade Santana.  This doesn&#039;t compute, because the sides seem close.  I wonder - maybe Santana actually asked for $126MM over five years?  Santana could be a $25MM man on the open market, and maybe he&#039;s not offering a hometown discount.  If Christensen&#039;s source told him the number of years, he would&#039;ve put that in the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is from <a href="http://www.MLBTraderumors.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.MLBTraderumors.com</a> on Johan, he may want $126 over 5 years, which obviously means he will be traded if that&#8217;s the case.</p>
<p>Santana Counters Twins&#8217; Offer</p>
<p>Sid Hartman was correct &#8211; Joe Christensen confirms today that the Twins did offer Johan Santana a five-year, $93MM deal (18.6MM annually).  The pact was designed to top Carlos Zambrano&#8217;s by $1.5MM.  Problem is that Santana isn&#8217;t 1.6% better than Zambrano.  He&#8217;s a lot better than Z. </p>
<p>Santana countered by asking for $126MM, according to Christensen.  His article implies that Santana asked for seven years in the counterproposal, since Santana&#8217;s agent cited Barry Zito&#8217;s deal and the dollar amount is the same.  The Twins balked at the counteroffer and expect to trade Santana.  This doesn&#8217;t compute, because the sides seem close.  I wonder &#8211; maybe Santana actually asked for $126MM over five years?  Santana could be a $25MM man on the open market, and maybe he&#8217;s not offering a hometown discount.  If Christensen&#8217;s source told him the number of years, he would&#8217;ve put that in the article.</p>
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		<title>By: whoa</title>
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		<dc:creator>whoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t want Hughes/Joba/Cano/A-Jack to get traded for Santana, and I would prefer not to see Santana on the Sox, although not enough to change my mind about giving up the aforementioned Yankees, so I hope the Twins can reach a contractual agreement with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t want Hughes/Joba/Cano/A-Jack to get traded for Santana, and I would prefer not to see Santana on the Sox, although not enough to change my mind about giving up the aforementioned Yankees, so I hope the Twins can reach a contractual agreement with him.</p>
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