Comments on: Can the Yankees hold the line? http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/ A New York Yankees blog by Sam Borden, Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:23:07 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: zgveritas http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/comment-page-4/#comment-214222 zgveritas Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:01:25 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/#comment-214222 I don't think the Petitte coming back is necessarily a coincidence but I don't think it was pre-planned either. Petitte was certainly staying up on team news in the off-season. He must have begun to feel that by delaying his decision he was hurting the "team" and the front office's ability to plan for the upcoming season. He obviously recognized the Yankees' leverage in doing off-season deals would be better with him committed to another year of play. Returning now also works in his favor since he'd prefer to return to a stronger team than one that has traded away talent that could help his quest for another ring. The Santana circus may have forced Petitte to act a little sooner. But others noted above that his intention was to announce his decision in December in order to have time to prepare for next season. Like the re-signed FAs, Pettitie wanted to see what the Yankees committment was under new leadership. Particularly with the loss of Torre. I am certain he recently heard from Cashman (directly or through his agent) that given the circumstances surrounding the Santana trade a prompt definitive decision would be appreciated. I don’t think the Petitte coming back is necessarily a coincidence but I don’t think it was pre-planned either.

Petitte was certainly staying up on team news in the off-season. He must have begun to feel that by delaying his decision he was hurting the “team” and the front office’s ability to plan for the upcoming season. He obviously recognized the Yankees’ leverage in doing off-season deals would be better with him committed to another year of play.
Returning now also works in his favor since he’d prefer to return to a stronger team than one that has traded away talent that could help his quest for another ring.

The Santana circus may have forced Petitte to act a little sooner. But others noted above that his intention was to announce his decision in December in order to have time to prepare for next season. Like the re-signed FAs, Pettitie wanted to see what the Yankees committment was under new leadership. Particularly with the loss of Torre.

I am certain he recently heard from Cashman (directly or through his agent) that given the circumstances surrounding the Santana trade a prompt definitive decision would be appreciated.

]]> By: Charlemagne http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/comment-page-4/#comment-212899 Charlemagne Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:10:59 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/#comment-212899 Twins NEED to trade Santana. They're not getting him back, and he said he won't waive during the season. (That's why this deal isn't a steal) I think Santana wants to be a Yankee with his declaration of the no waive during the season. I think IPK and Melky +Betimit/Giambi(Giambi's a reach to be rid of) would be a good trade, but I don't know if Twins are that desperate yet. Hughes is good, I think we'll regret letting him go as we do letting go Lowell. I'll miss Melky, but it also gives Damon a spot to play. Right now I'm more worried about the bullpen to be honest. Twins NEED to trade Santana. They’re not getting him back, and he said he won’t waive during the season. (That’s why this deal isn’t a steal) I think Santana wants to be a Yankee with his declaration of the no waive during the season. I think IPK and Melky +Betimit/Giambi(Giambi’s a reach to be rid of) would be a good trade, but I don’t know if Twins are that desperate yet. Hughes is good, I think we’ll regret letting him go as we do letting go Lowell. I’ll miss Melky, but it also gives Damon a spot to play. Right now I’m more worried about the bullpen to be honest.

]]> By: Luke http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/comment-page-4/#comment-212851 Luke Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:39:53 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/#comment-212851 PETTITTE'S BACK, and I broke the story! WOOOOOO! PETTITTE’S BACK, and I broke the story! WOOOOOO!

]]> By: Jason http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/comment-page-4/#comment-212850 Jason Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:39:51 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/#comment-212850 Am I the only one who thinks Hughes/Melky/lower-level prospect for Johan Santana would be a steal? When Santana was put on the market, I was convinced that two of the three kids would have to go, plus Cano. I guess it's all about expectations. And I'm thinking I might be the only Yankee fan delighted at what Hank is doing, and I don't think Cashman or the baseball guys are being marginalized at all (if Cashman wasn't involved, Mattingly would be the Yankee manager right now, not Girardi). I don't believe that the announcement that Andy's coming back 12 hours after Hank made his ultimatum is a coincidence. Am I the only one who thinks Hughes/Melky/lower-level prospect for Johan Santana would be a steal? When Santana was put on the market, I was convinced that two of the three kids would have to go, plus Cano. I guess it’s all about expectations.

And I’m thinking I might be the only Yankee fan delighted at what Hank is doing, and I don’t think Cashman or the baseball guys are being marginalized at all (if Cashman wasn’t involved, Mattingly would be the Yankee manager right now, not Girardi). I don’t believe that the announcement that Andy’s coming back 12 hours after Hank made his ultimatum is a coincidence.

]]> By: sunny615 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/comment-page-4/#comment-212809 sunny615 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:21:28 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/#comment-212809 If the Yankees rescind their offer because of Pettitte's return who would want the Sox to get Santana if the Twins take the Sox's offer on Crisp and Lester and Lowrie? Santana is a <b>need</b> for the Yankees. And only a <b>want</b> for the Sox. If the Yankees rescind their offer because of Pettitte’s return who would want the Sox to get Santana if the Twins take the Sox’s offer on Crisp and Lester and Lowrie? Santana is a need for the Yankees. And only a want for the Sox.

]]> By: Mike R. http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/comment-page-4/#comment-212788 Mike R. Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:15:14 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/#comment-212788 <blockquote>Uncle Vito December 3rd, 2007 at 10:09 am Mike R. December 3rd, 2007 at 9:48 am Alex December 3rd, 2007 at 9:26 am Don’t tell me to chill out, Herb Looks like someone’s got a case of the Mondays. . Maybe Alex needs to update his pieces of FLAIR ? . LOL </blockquote> If we keep messing with him he is going to set this blog on fire. LOL :D

Uncle Vito
December 3rd, 2007 at 10:09 am
Mike R.
December 3rd, 2007 at 9:48 am
Alex
December 3rd, 2007 at 9:26 am
Don’t tell me to chill out, Herb

Looks like someone’s got a case of the Mondays.
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Maybe Alex needs to update his pieces of FLAIR ?
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LOL

If we keep messing with him he is going to set this blog on fire. LOL :D

]]> By: PB in DC http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/comment-page-4/#comment-212781 PB in DC Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:12:42 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/#comment-212781 People in both Boston and NY seem to be forgetting that Santana is the best pitcher in baseball. I can understand Yankee fans wanting to not give up 2-3 of the young arms and Melky... and I can understand Red Sux fans wanting to not give up Ellsbury and Lester plus a Masterson-or-equal-prospect, but if the Yanks can get Santana for Hughes and Melky or if the RS can get him for Lester/Crisp/a prospect or Ellsbury/Masterson/a prospect, then YOU DO IT RUNNING AWAY. In no way would either of those trades be "mortgaging the future". Especially in the Yankee's case... I love Andy Petitte too, but he's not a No. 1 pitcher... neither is Wang or the 2008 version of Joba. This team needs an ace. Period. People in both Boston and NY seem to be forgetting that Santana is the best pitcher in baseball.

I can understand Yankee fans wanting to not give up 2-3 of the young arms and Melky… and I can understand Red Sux fans wanting to not give up Ellsbury and Lester plus a Masterson-or-equal-prospect, but if the Yanks can get Santana for Hughes and Melky or if the RS can get him for Lester/Crisp/a prospect or Ellsbury/Masterson/a prospect, then YOU DO IT RUNNING AWAY.

In no way would either of those trades be “mortgaging the future”. Especially in the Yankee’s case… I love Andy Petitte too, but he’s not a No. 1 pitcher… neither is Wang or the 2008 version of Joba.

This team needs an ace. Period.

]]> By: Ogerp Jr http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/comment-page-4/#comment-212780 Ogerp Jr Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:11:46 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/#comment-212780 Haven't seen anything regarding this so I thought I'd post... http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3139152 looks like Pettitte will be returning! Haven’t seen anything regarding this so I thought I’d post…

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3139152

looks like Pettitte will be returning!

]]> By: Uncle Vito http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/comment-page-4/#comment-212775 Uncle Vito Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:09:44 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/#comment-212775 Mike R. December 3rd, 2007 at 9:48 am Alex December 3rd, 2007 at 9:26 am Don’t tell me to chill out, Herb Looks like someone’s got a case of the Mondays. . Maybe Alex needs to update his pieces of FLAIR ? . LOL :-) Mike R.
December 3rd, 2007 at 9:48 am
Alex
December 3rd, 2007 at 9:26 am
Don’t tell me to chill out, Herb

Looks like someone’s got a case of the Mondays.
.

Maybe Alex needs to update his pieces of FLAIR ?
.
LOL :-)

]]> By: Phil http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/comment-page-4/#comment-212762 Phil Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:05:15 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2007/12/03/can-the-yankees-hold-the-line/#comment-212762 They wouldn't go for Haren now if Santana fall through. They wouldn’t go for Haren now if Santana fall through.

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